cheers my man!!! if it's got your ok i am happy!!! i thought it was a bit garbled!! who knows maybe i'll expand to shims on the america service....i'd rather not mind...;-)
thanks buddy there's a sense of satisfaction getting these things done yourself- plus you get to know your bike inside and out- total cost of the 12k service was £86.67....can't really argue with that!!
Excellent work as always Mr Cactus. The more stuff we have like this the less people have to spend money when they really don't need to, plus it provides a much needed alternative for those who perhaps don't want to watch some fool coating the inside of his house in Plasti Dip! :D
covering the inside of a house in plastidip never gets boring my friend!!! but glad my fumblings may help someone give it a go and save some cash....for plastidip!!!!!
Yes you're right about the cam caps they are line bored in situ! However fixing the thread for the cover is a simple helicoil job...(best not to over tighten as you so rightly say tho...)
thats the words i was looking for!!! line bored in situ!!! thank you sir!!- yeah i hate helicoiling on stuff like that- i end up going wonky and spilling swarf all over the place- too much pressure i guess!!! ha ha!!
Hi mate. In my service manual it shows the eggs pointed outwards. Does it matter? .do both ramps wear evenly? .I've only done valve clearance check once so still learning. Cheers
hi mate- there is a difference from haynes manual and service manual as to cam lobe direction- which makes things confusing!- i'd take measurements with the lobes facing out as per the triumph service manual- although really any position where there is no valve lift should be fine. but these days i go with the triumph manual! hope that helps!!
Nicely explained mate, and another great video. It's not that frightening when someone has shown you. Mind you, everything was in tolerance, yay! I've seen a video of someone having to calculate the sizes of shim to order and that looks a bit involved, so (having already read the previous comments), when you come to do Jen's bike lets see the process then eh? You're probably off to the bike meet if the weathers been as good as it has up here today. Sadly I've been laid up with a virus for a few days (bloody awful one I can tell you) and it's back to the grind tomorrow. Week off next week so the weather better be kind... I have plans! :-)
ah bugger about the man flu buddy! get well soon!! did do the bike meet- only got a little soggy! maths isn't my strong suit so i'll be taking my time with jens...if they are out....part of me hopes they are so i can do it but a bigger part of me would like it if they weren't!!!
The manual says to drain the oil before doing this job. Why would they want you to drain the oil? That doesn't make sense to me. Most of the oil is in the bottom of the engine.
How you doing JC ? Good Vid mate . Looking forward to you getting that hard tail frame back . Went on a bit of ride yesterday to Weston and Cheddar and on the way back noticed a bit of weeping in one place on the valve cover gasket . I had the valves checked and 3 shims fitted by a local firm at 24000 and as the mileage is now just over 34000 I've ordered a new gasket and sealing washers and thought while the cover is off I would check the clearances , and if I'm brave enough I think I might do the shims if needed , I don't like the idea of taking someone else's word that they've done it properly and whether something they have done has caused that seal to fail . My question is... the only Feeler gauges I've got are in 0.05 increments so not accurate enough , and I've seen some that are in 0.01 increments but it means that I have to use 2 of the blades to make up 0.16,0.17,0.18 etc . Do you reckon using two blades of the feeler gauge is still an accurate way of measuring the clearance as in your footage you seemed to be using only one blade or did you use multiple blades to make up the required thickness. Cheers Andy .
Hey mate!- I wouldn't be overly concerned about a slight weep on the gasket- did they use a new one when they did the valves? 10k later suggests general wear and tear. the checks are pretty straight forward. you can indeed use 2 blades but i tend to prefer one as my hands are usually oily and i'm fumbling by that point !!! ha ha!! make sure the mating surfaces of the cam cover and engine are super clean and no nicks. a thin smear of hi temp rtv sealant can help keep the gasket in place and help seal. hardtail is home- so vids happening very soon!!!
Do the cams have to be at that exact spot or is any spot where the lobes are not in play good enough? It seems the measurement would be the same over a pretty broad range.
hey mate- i've always followed the approximation by the manuals and gone for when they are pointing away from each other- as you say somewhere around that point where the lobes aren't in play would give a good reading. I tend to eyeball it by having the bucket/shim/top of lobe all in line. does that make sense mate!?
Really enjoyed watching this'n mucker..,not that at this point in time it has any real relevance to me,but the knowledge for future reference is what its about!! nice one dude. Ere nice looking torque wrench there,is that the Halfords one?? Hope ya both good bro..Bizz.
hey buddy!- gotta do the biggie service on the america next as well!!!- yep- sure is a halfords jobbie!!! (nice straightforward adjustment on it- my old one needed maths to work out nm from the ft lbs!!)
I appreciate the video mate. How in the bloody hell did you turn the back wheel without the bike being on a stand to get the cams in position? Is it that easy? Cheers
you need to get the back wheel off the ground!- center stand, or trolley jack under the swing arm on the opposite side to the side stand- i use a dunstall bonneville stand. there's a little resistance but turn the wheel by hand- sorry mate i didn't make that clear in the vid!!!
johnnycactus0 thank you and thank God I just put some new oil in her. I wanted try a new gadget by Fomoto. It’s an oil drain valve with a lever. It should make changing oil a quick and easy thing in the future I did bugger my front caliber pins head, to tight, so epoxy and an Alan key to the rescue next to get it out next and replace it. Learning how to do it myself is so satisfying. Even dealerships can bugger things, they have stripped heads of my screws on my bar end caps twice. Had to tape and reverse screw them off. Thanks again
great video. i have 2 questions, what is the name of the tool to measure the valves? and, how do you adjust them if they are not within specs? thanks, super informative and well done!
+FRANCO LOPEZ hi mate- it's a feeler gauge for the gaps. adjustment is quite a long and involved process-probably not best described in a comments box!- a haynes manual gives you a good starting point on the process though and whats involved! hope that helps!
In which direction do you turn the rear wheel to align the cams? The Haynes manual says to turn the alternator rotor clockwise only, so does that apply to turning the rear wheel as well? Clockwise, as viewed from the right side of the bike? (as if you were moving the bike forward, if it weren't on the stand.) P.S...great video!
Dude, that's insanely clean bike. How do you manage that? My '06 Thruxton is rather dirty no mattern how much I wash & clean it. On the other hand I just drove 900km+ in pouring rain :D. And I quite often drive on gravel roads.
ha ha!- i spend way too much time cleaning it!!!!!- although it has had a rest from winter riding last year as i've got another bonnie to do the bad weather riding!! that one is very dirty!!!!!!!!
11:28 exhaust valve too open haha :) man thanks your video helped me do mine. The only bike i have "opened" and successfully repaired before was a honda chaly 16 years ago haha
liked how you show to specify what size goes where, i hate shimming up , but if it needs... and your right, better learn to do it self then "trust" a garage, usually im the garage.... shit.!
ha ha!- i was lucky this time no need to delve any deeper and the bikes not off the road....mind you jens america is next...bet i won't be so lucky that time!!
well, you asked for it yourself!! is the amerika with shims? i meen , your the one did the bike ,and if you didnt do the valves then!!your in for it now,sorry...
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This video needs 50K hit mate...top video for the library fellah... pip pip.. Del.
cheers my man!!! if it's got your ok i am happy!!! i thought it was a bit garbled!! who knows maybe i'll expand to shims on the america service....i'd rather not mind...;-)
+johnnycactus0 iam wondering how much different for the america shim swap?
i would imagine very similar process - if not exactly the same!- our america is still in tolerance so haven't done it yet!!
Totally 😃
great video well done, people like you give other people confidence and thats a plus.
Many thanks! That's much appreciated- and if I can then anyone can!!! 🤣
Great vid mate, great for helping those who want to save some money and would rather do it themselves rather than trust someone in a garage.
thanks buddy there's a sense of satisfaction getting these things done yourself- plus you get to know your bike inside and out- total cost of the 12k service was £86.67....can't really argue with that!!
Wow now thats a good deal.Nice one mate
Another fine piece of work mate. Like your style!
cheers my friend!!!- never been told i had style!!! ha ha!!!!
Thanks for the informative video! Going to check mine this weekend. Fingers crossed on the clearances!
good luck buddy!! just take your time!!
A proper maintenance vid. Nice one dude. Very informative. Package will be with you shortly
thank you sir on both counts- for yer kind comments and sterling generosity!!!! cheers buddy!!
Thanks for the video, first time I've seen one checked
no problem mate!! if it helps save us skint bikers a couple of quid then it's done it's job!!
Thanks Jonny
Did mine last week all ok. But gasket was knackered so bought one and for seals from triumph ...only £29 Result all round
top job!! happy days!!
Thanks Johnny, well done!
no problemo!! hopefully it was of some use!!!
Thanks man, that was super helpful.
glad it was of some help mate! thanks for watching!
Excellent work as always Mr Cactus.
The more stuff we have like this the less people have to spend money when they really don't need to, plus it provides a much needed alternative for those who perhaps don't want to watch some fool coating the inside of his house in Plasti Dip! :D
covering the inside of a house in plastidip never gets boring my friend!!! but glad my fumblings may help someone give it a go and save some cash....for plastidip!!!!!
Yes you're right about the cam caps they are line bored in situ! However fixing the thread for the cover is a simple helicoil job...(best not to over tighten as you so rightly say tho...)
thats the words i was looking for!!! line bored in situ!!! thank you sir!!- yeah i hate helicoiling on stuff like that- i end up going wonky and spilling swarf all over the place- too much pressure i guess!!! ha ha!!
you forget to mention, america and speedmaster cam lobes are in a different position
Hi mate. In my service manual it shows the eggs pointed outwards. Does it matter? .do both ramps wear evenly? .I've only done valve clearance check once so still learning. Cheers
hi mate- there is a difference from haynes manual and service manual as to cam lobe direction- which makes things confusing!- i'd take measurements with the lobes facing out as per the triumph service manual- although really any position where there is no valve lift should be fine. but these days i go with the triumph manual! hope that helps!!
Great video and well explained, thanks very much will save this video. Cheers
phew!!! never done much of a 'tutorial' before i'm really glad it's of some help!!!!!!
Nicely explained mate, and another great video. It's not that frightening when someone has shown you. Mind you, everything was in tolerance, yay!
I've seen a video of someone having to calculate the sizes of shim to order and that looks a bit involved, so (having already read the previous comments), when you come to do Jen's bike lets see the process then eh?
You're probably off to the bike meet if the weathers been as good as it has up here today. Sadly I've been laid up with a virus for a few days (bloody awful one I can tell you) and it's back to the grind tomorrow. Week off next week so the weather better be kind... I have plans! :-)
ah bugger about the man flu buddy! get well soon!! did do the bike meet- only got a little soggy! maths isn't my strong suit so i'll be taking my time with jens...if they are out....part of me hopes they are so i can do it but a bigger part of me would like it if they weren't!!!
The manual says to drain the oil before doing this job. Why would they want you to drain the oil? That doesn't make sense to me. Most of the oil is in the bottom of the engine.
How you doing JC ? Good Vid mate . Looking forward to you getting that hard tail frame back . Went on a bit of ride yesterday to Weston and Cheddar and on the way back noticed a bit of weeping in one place on the valve cover gasket . I had the valves checked and 3 shims fitted by a local firm at 24000 and as the mileage is now just over 34000 I've ordered a new gasket and sealing washers and thought while the cover is off I would check the clearances , and if I'm brave enough I think I might do the shims if needed , I don't like the idea of taking someone else's word that they've done it properly and whether something they have done has caused that seal to fail . My question is... the only Feeler gauges I've got are in 0.05 increments so not accurate enough , and I've seen some that are in 0.01 increments but it means that I have to use 2 of the blades to make up 0.16,0.17,0.18 etc . Do you reckon using two blades of the feeler gauge is still an accurate way of measuring the clearance as in your footage you seemed to be using only one blade or did you use multiple blades to make up the required thickness.
Cheers Andy .
Hey mate!- I wouldn't be overly concerned about a slight weep on the gasket- did they use a new one when they did the valves? 10k later suggests general wear and tear. the checks are pretty straight forward. you can indeed use 2 blades but i tend to prefer one as my hands are usually oily and i'm fumbling by that point !!! ha ha!! make sure the mating surfaces of the cam cover and engine are super clean and no nicks. a thin smear of hi temp rtv sealant can help keep the gasket in place and help seal. hardtail is home- so vids happening very soon!!!
Do the cams have to be at that exact spot or is any spot where the lobes are not in play good enough? It seems the measurement would be the same over a pretty broad range.
hey mate- i've always followed the approximation by the manuals and gone for when they are pointing away from each other- as you say somewhere around that point where the lobes aren't in play would give a good reading. I tend to eyeball it by having the bucket/shim/top of lobe all in line. does that make sense mate!?
Yes. Thanks!
Really enjoyed watching this'n mucker..,not that at this point in time it has any real relevance to me,but the knowledge for future reference is what its about!! nice one dude.
Ere nice looking torque wrench there,is that the Halfords one??
Hope ya both good bro..Bizz.
hey buddy!- gotta do the biggie service on the america next as well!!!- yep- sure is a halfords jobbie!!! (nice straightforward adjustment on it- my old one needed maths to work out nm from the ft lbs!!)
Where can I find instructions on how to adjust the valves if their out of whack? This vid is great but doesn't show it.
+Hudsonfamily1995 hey mate- try this vid- lovely bloke and has some very detailed info...th-cam.com/video/jk1Vx27JCTc/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate the video mate. How in the bloody hell did you turn the back wheel without the bike being on a stand to get the cams in position? Is it that easy? Cheers
you need to get the back wheel off the ground!- center stand, or trolley jack under the swing arm on the opposite side to the side stand- i use a dunstall bonneville stand. there's a little resistance but turn the wheel by hand- sorry mate i didn't make that clear in the vid!!!
The oil had to be drained to do a valve Clarence Check. Sorry for such a dumb question, never done this before.
not at all mate- nope you don't have to drain the oil- just ensure the engine is totally cold- leave it overnight if it's been run.
johnnycactus0 thank you and thank God I just put some new oil in her.
I wanted try a new gadget by Fomoto. It’s an oil drain valve with a lever.
It should make changing oil a quick and easy thing in the future
I did bugger my front caliber pins head, to tight, so epoxy and an Alan key to the rescue next to get it out next and replace it.
Learning how to do it myself is so satisfying. Even dealerships can bugger things, they have stripped heads of my screws on my bar end caps twice. Had to tape and reverse screw them off.
Thanks again
great video. i have 2 questions, what is the name of the tool to measure the valves? and, how do you adjust them if they are not within specs?
thanks, super informative and well done!
+FRANCO LOPEZ hi mate- it's a feeler gauge for the gaps. adjustment is quite a long and involved process-probably not best described in a comments box!- a haynes manual gives you a good starting point on the process though and whats involved! hope that helps!
In which direction do you turn the rear wheel to align the cams? The Haynes manual says to turn the alternator rotor clockwise only, so does that apply to turning the rear wheel as well? Clockwise, as viewed from the right side of the bike? (as if you were moving the bike forward, if it weren't on the stand.) P.S...great video!
+bassteamer hey mate- i think i rotated it forward- so anticlockwise from the right of the bike- but i don't think it really matters too much.
+johnnycactus0 Thanks!
Dude, that's insanely clean bike. How do you manage that?
My '06 Thruxton is rather dirty no mattern how much I wash & clean it. On the other hand I just drove 900km+ in pouring rain :D. And I quite often drive on gravel roads.
ha ha!- i spend way too much time cleaning it!!!!!- although it has had a rest from winter riding last year as i've got another bonnie to do the bad weather riding!! that one is very dirty!!!!!!!!
Quality burp sir!
i try my best!!!! they pop out when i'm concentrating.......
11:28 exhaust valve too open haha :) man thanks your video helped me do mine. The only bike i have "opened" and successfully repaired before was a honda chaly 16 years ago haha
ha ha ha! no worries buddy!!!
liked how you show to specify what size goes where, i hate shimming up , but if it needs... and your right, better learn to do it self then "trust" a garage, usually im the garage.... shit.!
ha ha!- i was lucky this time no need to delve any deeper and the bikes not off the road....mind you jens america is next...bet i won't be so lucky that time!!
well, you asked for it yourself!! is the amerika with shims? i meen , your the one did the bike ,and if you didnt do the valves then!!your in for it now,sorry...
hi johny. i have 1 question, do i need to replace new cam cover seal if i open it for valve clearence check? tq
hi mate- i have used the same seal but i would recommend new cam cover bolt seals.
johnnycactus0 thank you
too easy !!!!!!!!!!!!! when they not in spec, that is where the fun starts !! ! :)
ha ha- i know what a lucky bastard eh!!??? ;-)