A house has to have Scaffolding to build it. Looks bad compared to the finished product. Same with the Starting Strength Novice Method. Need to Eat more and that will mean gaining a bit of Fat with it, It will look bad compared to the finished product, Being Strong and looking Strong. But if you keep going that Scaffolding will eventually be removed and you got a Nice looking Strong built Body, or house as the example applies.
I started at 235 (fat guy at 5ft 11) and kept that weight but added 200 pounds to my squat and deadlift, about a 100 pounds on my bench and about 40 pounds on my press in 4,5 months before i switched programs. Kept the same weight during the LP and now i'm at 240 in body weight and have added an additional 30 and 40 pounds to my squat and deadlift and about 20 on my bench. Did 2 resets on each lift then changed program. I started in the middle of January this year and i'm amazed by the results. Now i still have a belly but now atleast nowadays people tell me that i look big in the muscular sence....
Accurate! Plus, even bodybuilders do not walk around lean. They only lean out for shows. If you try to stay lean all of the time, you will experience atrophy.
The only thing that I'm stuck is in total body weight. I'm at 115kg (253lbs) for half a year! But, I'm stronger! I'm Faster! I'm more muscular! I noticed that keeping an diet for my own weight allow me to slowly gain muscle mass and loss body fat without even thinking about it. I started the last year with 40% BF, now I'm 19% and I don't care if I go to 10% or 30%, I'm healthier than all my friends and I'm in love with me
4:30 is alien to me. I'm 5'9" and 145 soaking wet, I fiddled with SS for a while till I hurt myself through my own impatience and stupidity. Likely minor inguinal hernia or bulge and low back stressbwhich I fixed with rest/foam rolling and stretching my back and sickeningly tight hammies. But I was pushing past 230x5x3 with a stalling deadlift at 305x5... Not to knock the feller "stalling" at 135 on squat, but dang homie, did you do any research on what makes a body grow?
Ok, 18-35 is the optimal age-range for the program, but what about a 70 year-old who still has the mind-set of a 28 year-old? Obviously, attitude won't make up for every aspect of aging, but the crap workouts out there for seniors don't cut it. any opinions?
im 35yo doing 385x5 squats after 4 months and found it impossible to increase weight every workout; it feels like my 'nervous system' is extremely taxed while my body feels fine, not sore etc.; i started increasing weight once a week and it feels fine again;
Once you can't add weight to every workout, you switch to an advanced novice progress, where you add weight Monday and Friday, and do a light day on Wednesday (80% of what you did Monday). Once that runs out, you switch to an intermediate program.
And that will just result in you becoming a fat shit like i was Rippateo is the father of starting strength and exaggerating He claims young guys on his program gain 23 lbs of muscle in a few months 😂 Benefit from his program but don’t listen to his GOMAD bullshit
How should I break up my macros in what %s? Some may not care about counting calories or macros but for me this is realistically the only way I am going to consciously stick to eating enough during the day if I have a specific goal I am working towards. right now I am 150 lbs with just over 13% body fat. I am down from 165 lbs from not eating as much and not having a gym to train in although soon that will change as I am ordering weights and a barbell so I will be restarting my nlpp. Thanks
These podcasts are perfect for helping me go to sleep, such a boring monotone voice just saying “5s are yer strength base,” and “if you aren’t far you’re a woman”
I'm 30, 215lb, 6', 20%~ BF. Just started the program after fuckin around on and off for years. I'm at 275x5 for squat and 335x5 DL, but my bench and press are weak from minor shoulder issues... 170x5 bench, 105x5 for press. I should expect my bench and press to increase more rapidly than my squad and DL, since they're already "high" right?
9:20 to 9:53 sums up most peoples flawed understanding of getting strong and thinking all along you will look ripped like a body builder in contest form. YANDTP!
Same shit. Eat a little more protein that 1 gram per lb. Otherwise, if you're skinny, gain weight...If your'e fat, eat as much as you can to keep the strength going while losing weight slowly. Check out Jordan Feigenbaums article called To Be a Beast
What if i started doing Stronglifts 5x5 for a couple of months first ?, does that affect your LP if you want to start doing the Novice progression program ?
Orestes Pinto Eating a lot of protein 200-300g daily, eating to recover (3500 calories if you're fat, upwards of 5000-6000 if you are skinny), creating a reason for muscular adaptation (Stronglifts, Starting strength), and resting enough are by far the most important keys to linear progression. Starting Strength and Stronglifts 5x5 are similar enough that it shouldn't affect you negatively
Hector Elizondo Jr. I am just traumatized of being fat for so long that I have a hard time eating that many calories haha. I am 25 5'6 270 and my lifts so far in 3 months are squats 315 3x5, dead lift 245 1x5, press 125 3x5, bench press 185 3x5. I did strong lifts prior to reading starting strength and doing the Novice program.
That depends on how strong you got on Stronglifts. I'd expect that adding 10 pounds to your squat every workout isn't feasible anymore, but 5 pounds probably is.
Orestes Pinto We have extremely similar lifts numbers. I'm about 10lbs heavier (282lbs) and 5" taller so I know exactly what you're going through. It depends what you're goals are. If you want to get stronger then you got to eat to grow. As for me, (I don't know if Rip will agree but) I will switch to 1 set of each lift, 200g of protein, 1500-2000 calorie/day to lose weight. I have no intention of going back to 300lbs. My goal is to fit in all amusement park rides this year XD
I have the book and I didn't even know there was a program. I thought it was just a guide to lifting the major movements to gain strength. I better read some more of the book.
You are not as long as you can perform the exercises correctly. Ripp discusses modifications for older people, but if you can do the program as is, despite your age, than do it.
It's meant for everyone. I'm 36 and I'm following the program exactly as it's written and it works just fine for me. The difference between older guys and younger guys is that our progress won't be as fast, so we might have to switch to the advanced novice phase of the program sooner (e.g. switch at 3 months instead of 5-6 months, for example).
Can you create a flip chart where everything points to "You are not doing the program" please?
It would be a great meme :D
A house has to have Scaffolding to build it. Looks bad compared to the finished product. Same with the Starting Strength Novice Method. Need to Eat more and that will mean gaining a bit of Fat with it, It will look bad compared to the finished product, Being Strong and looking Strong. But if you keep going that Scaffolding will eventually be removed and you got a Nice looking Strong built Body, or house as the example applies.
Starting Strength doesn't want you to be fat, it just doesn't care about seeing your abs.
You are the voice of reson in this crazy industry Mr Rippetoe! Grateful for your work!
I started at 235 (fat guy at 5ft 11) and kept that weight but added 200 pounds to my squat and deadlift, about a 100 pounds on my bench and about 40 pounds on my press in 4,5 months before i switched programs. Kept the same weight during the LP and now i'm at 240 in body weight and have added an additional 30 and 40 pounds to my squat and deadlift and about 20 on my bench.
Did 2 resets on each lift then changed program. I started in the middle of January this year and i'm amazed by the results.
Now i still have a belly but now atleast nowadays people tell me that i look big in the muscular sence....
I started similar weight but instead lost 50lbs while still getting stronger.
Re-listening in 2020. Got an ad for vegan cheese. 🤣
Accurate! Plus, even bodybuilders do not walk around lean. They only lean out for shows. If you try to stay lean all of the time, you will experience atrophy.
I love the exasperation in his voice when he says 'OK Kiddos' at the start
The only thing that I'm stuck is in total body weight. I'm at 115kg (253lbs) for half a year!
But, I'm stronger! I'm Faster! I'm more muscular!
I noticed that keeping an diet for my own weight allow me to slowly gain muscle mass and loss body fat without even thinking about it. I started the last year with 40% BF, now I'm 19% and I don't care if I go to 10% or 30%, I'm healthier than all my friends and I'm in love with me
Cristian Rodrigo dos Santos Step down from that pedestal, you narcissist.
Is this just him reading the nutrition chapter of the book? XD
Toopkarcher lol, you'd be surprised how many people miss that section then complain.
"Look, fucker, you read this wrong."
too many people getting fat😂
Take the milk pill
I don’t think I’m doing the programme :(
4:30 is alien to me.
I'm 5'9" and 145 soaking wet, I fiddled with SS for a while till I hurt myself through my own impatience and stupidity. Likely minor inguinal hernia or bulge and low back stressbwhich I fixed with rest/foam rolling and stretching my back and sickeningly tight hammies.
But I was pushing past 230x5x3 with a stalling deadlift at 305x5...
Not to knock the feller "stalling" at 135 on squat, but dang homie, did you do any research on what makes a body grow?
30lbs in 3 months?
Dude my squat went up 33lbs in 3 sessions, that’s a week, 11lbs per session, and I didn’t even eat a lot.
Ok, 18-35 is the optimal age-range for the program, but what about a 70 year-old who still has the mind-set of a 28 year-old? Obviously, attitude won't make up for every aspect of aging, but the crap workouts out there for seniors don't cut it. any opinions?
"if you guys don't stop misinterpreting this I'm gonna have you all killed." This is why I love you guys.
im 35yo doing 385x5 squats after 4 months and found it impossible to increase weight every workout; it feels like my 'nervous system' is extremely taxed while my body feels fine, not sore etc.; i started increasing weight once a week and it feels fine again;
MhUser You linearly progressed to 385lb for sets? That's very impressive.
MhUser thats great, i only got to 270 withe my LP but i stoped gaining wheight at some point. But i switched like you and it still goes up.
Once you can't add weight to every workout, you switch to an advanced novice progress, where you add weight Monday and Friday, and do a light day on Wednesday (80% of what you did Monday). Once that runs out, you switch to an intermediate program.
MhUser, how much do you weight? Damn that's impressive, took me a lot longer to get to 385x5! Switch to the Texas Method.
i weight 285 and i started from 265 not from an empty bar; i always weigh more then i look for and im not all that fat
Rip would make a great speech synthesizer
I'd love it. I'd use 'him' to read all books to me.
I think the problem arises from your statement in the book about the caloric excess: you suggested 1000 - 2000 kCal of eccess.
And that will just result in you becoming a fat shit like i was
Rippateo is the father of starting strength and exaggerating
He claims young guys on his program gain 23 lbs of muscle in a few months 😂
Benefit from his program but don’t listen to his GOMAD bullshit
I'm 52 will I need to make changes to program?
2:09
this is the perfect time for an awkward silence
I'm going up to ten gallons a day.
Fantastic!
How should I break up my macros in what %s? Some may not care about counting calories or macros but for me this is realistically the only way I am going to consciously stick to eating enough during the day if I have a specific goal I am working towards. right now I am 150 lbs with just over 13% body fat. I am down from 165 lbs from not eating as much and not having a gym to train in although soon that will change as I am ordering weights and a barbell so I will be restarting my nlpp. Thanks
So basically eat sensibly before you decide whether the program is working
Rippetoe sounds just like PragerU :D
A little deeper but yea
Rippatoe also exaggerates like prager u to deliver his points
20 lbs lean muscle gain in 11 weeks loli
These podcasts are perfect for helping me go to sleep, such a boring monotone voice just saying “5s are yer strength base,” and “if you aren’t far you’re a woman”
where is the program?
I'm 30, 215lb, 6', 20%~ BF. Just started the program after fuckin around on and off for years. I'm at 275x5 for squat and 335x5 DL, but my bench and press are weak from minor shoulder issues... 170x5 bench, 105x5 for press. I should expect my bench and press to increase more rapidly than my squad and DL, since they're already "high" right?
So if I’m below 18? (16)
Your not doing the program 😄
9:20 to 9:53 sums up most peoples flawed understanding of getting strong and thinking all along you will look ripped like a body builder in contest form. YANDTP!
What about for a 50 year-old?
Same shit. Eat a little more protein that 1 gram per lb. Otherwise, if you're skinny, gain weight...If your'e fat, eat as much as you can to keep the strength going while losing weight slowly. Check out Jordan Feigenbaums article called To Be a Beast
What if i started doing Stronglifts 5x5 for a couple of months first ?, does that affect your LP if you want to start doing the Novice progression program ?
Orestes Pinto Eating a lot of protein 200-300g daily, eating to recover (3500 calories if you're fat, upwards of 5000-6000 if you are skinny), creating a reason for muscular adaptation (Stronglifts, Starting strength), and resting enough are by far the most important keys to linear progression. Starting Strength and Stronglifts 5x5 are similar enough that it shouldn't affect you negatively
Hector Elizondo Jr. I am just traumatized of being fat for so long that I have a hard time eating that many calories haha. I am 25 5'6 270 and my lifts so far in 3 months are squats 315 3x5, dead lift 245 1x5, press 125 3x5, bench press 185 3x5. I did strong lifts prior to reading starting strength and doing the Novice program.
That depends on how strong you got on Stronglifts. I'd expect that adding 10 pounds to your squat every workout isn't feasible anymore, but 5 pounds probably is.
MrAzzhloe you are right I was adding 5lb per workout. because 10 would have been to much. my form was shit before I started starting strength.
Orestes Pinto We have extremely similar lifts numbers. I'm about 10lbs heavier (282lbs) and 5" taller so I know exactly what you're going through. It depends what you're goals are. If you want to get stronger then you got to eat to grow. As for me, (I don't know if Rip will agree but) I will switch to 1 set of each lift, 200g of protein, 1500-2000 calorie/day to lose weight. I have no intention of going back to 300lbs. My goal is to fit in all amusement park rides this year XD
Where does one find the program?
Starting Strength Barbell Training, 3rd Edition
If it's meant for 18-35 year olds, I'm too old.
I have the book and I didn't even know there was a program. I thought it was just a guide to lifting the major movements to gain strength. I better read some more of the book.
You are not as long as you can perform the exercises correctly. Ripp discusses modifications for older people, but if you can do the program as is, despite your age, than do it.
It's meant for everyone. I'm 36 and I'm following the program exactly as it's written and it works just fine for me. The difference between older guys and younger guys is that our progress won't be as fast, so we might have to switch to the advanced novice phase of the program sooner (e.g. switch at 3 months instead of 5-6 months, for example).