Rick James and Prince should not be compared. They both had their own style and the world of funk would be completely different if they had never made music.
The comparison with Prince and Rick James was that they were musicians that actually could sing , as well as write ,arrange and produce music . The both of them were self contained , also at that time funk was chants or the whole band singing it together , or may have 2 or 3 lead singers . So that's where the comparison comes in
I'm sorry but We all have to agree that Both Prince and Rick James were both great talented people who didn't probably like each other personally but they both gave the whole world great music to listen to! Thanks for sharing this video!
Amen! Rick James could song his ass off! Rick was a bad ass also. Its easy said and done, Holly Wood is very strange! And People do things to relax even though they knowe it will takee them out of here. We lost alot of great entertainers but when u play in the devils play ground u better know what your doing. Your not going to get tiches and fame sitting on your ass. You have to do what you r told!!
You're right. Rick James and Prince were both equally talented and couldn't stand each other because they were equal in talent and showmanship. A radio station here in D.C. had a battle between Rick James and Prince on the radio Saturday afternoon and people called in to vote. The final tally was kind of tight but Prince won 65/35. Both artists were dynamic forces of nature.
Rick just wanted to 🎶 party all the time, party all the time, party all the ti-ime.🎶 And Prince just wanted to work all the time, work all the time and become a musical icon and le-gend 🎶. Ironic that drugs killed both of them.
Prince was smart He knew not to put his business on the street. I must add what a fantastic musician Prince was. He played the piano and guitar like a madman❗ A beautiful soul gone.
i'm a Retired peace officer and a prior Marine that's become some what detached over the years. so when i learned of Prince's passing i was my usual detached self and shrugged it off but then these tears came, and they came from seemingly out of no where and i thought what in the world i don't even know this brother why am i mourning? i'm still somewhat surprised at my reaction on that day.
Prince was in another league …as usual Vanity was one of the sexiest creatures I’ve ever seen, and Prince was involved with her … as usual Nothing compares to Prince and most were to dim to actually SEE Him…AS USUAL
Somewhat true. Nobody will admit that Rick's racy image and music was a major influence on Prince's breakout as an edgy cross-genre musician. Rick was a multi-instrumentalist, producer, risque dresser (bikinis & boots), with a multi-racial band and women of every race around him. Sound familiar? Yes Prince drew a lot from Rick.
Rick was more so upset w/MTV which spewed over into Prince and a little bit on MJ! If anything, Ricks' tour broke Prince out of his shyness! Prince was going to strike big because he was younger and not afraid to take chances!
Prince got the multiracial and gender band idea from Sly and The Family Stone. Plus after Purple Rain, Rick started wearing ruffles and later wore his hair similar to Prince. Both were great at what they did.
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Rick was great at criticizing people for stuff that he did himself. Just like dissing Charlie Murphy for being in the Navy. In what branch of service did Rick James spend most of his time in jail (the stockade)? The NAVY. 🙄
Awesome footage with Tina.. she was such a talent so underrated.. but such a powerful voice.. I can only imagine what a duet with Prince would've sounded like.?
Totally agree ,This footage of Lady T is so beautiful to Me. Especially Her piano solo. Man!!!!. Her and Prince would of had a beautiful duet,had they worked together. I grew up on Her music when I was child,My Mom use to jam Her albums in our household. R.I.P Teena Lady T Marie.
Have you ever notice that not once while Prince was alive he never talked about Rick James in any kind of way but he has mentioned Micheal Jackson but when Rick James died he still never talked about Rick James but when mj died Prince was very sadden about that even though the media kept it as a rivalry between Prince and Michael Jackson when it really wasn't he respected Micheal Jackson alot .. They were all talented musician . Prince Micheal Jackson and Rick James .Gone but never forgotten
@@Sinnik22 agreed. Prince never mentioned Rick James because they were both fighting for the same lane of Top Black Pop Rock Star. Rick had a long history in Rock working with Neil Young and Buffalo Springfield. He wanted the spot Jimi Hendrix & Sly Stone had and bigger. Prince wanted it too and Rick was his only competition at that time.
@ Prince was likely envious of MJ's talents and unprecedented popularity. That's why Prince would show-off his instrumental skills that MJ evidently did not have or exhibit. Will.I.Am & MJ went to a Prince show and Prince came to where they were sitting, playing bass to MJ. And Will said MJ was like "why is Prince playing bass in my face?! hahahaa
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@@reimourrpower9357 no jealous not envious there's a major difference between the two
My father was there in Detroit and always told me that "Prince won". It was billed as "Rick James Vs Prince" .Detroit was one of the 1st markets to go crazy over Prince .At the time ,Rick was the obvious star and had huge commercial success. I feel both artist are exceptional and each have contributed in their own right. Heaven has the Ultimate Band right now(smile)
I was there, this was my second concert, My first concert was Parliament/Funkadelic.They all performed at the Olympia Stadium located at Grand River west of Joy Rd. There's a vacant lot there now.
This was something of course Rick and Prince had been battling each other for early on one of my favorite part was seeing Teena Marie hearing her sing just brings me chills I missed her but all in all this was great 👍🏾
@AMERICAN KING nope nope and nope...face it, rick had a short short run and then it was about the dope. You don't need to make up shit.... documented.... get real.
They are all gone. Left their mark on this earth for sure for sure. Mr. Rick James Ms. Teena Marie and Mr. Prince Roger Nelson. List goes on and on. 70,'s,80's and 90's artist have us so much substance.
Mary Jane Girls were definitely a better constructed & more talented group than Vanity 6. They had more professional production on their two albums more in line with Brides of Funkenstein & Parlet. I understand Rick being salty about his concept being beaten to market by Prince. But MJG's success with All Night Long, Boys, Candy Man, In My House, etc. must have brought some vindication. V6 had Nasty Girl & that's about it.
Mary Jane Girls definitely had more talent but Vanity 6 had more sex appeal they were gorgeous especially Vanity. I personally prefer Apollnia 6 album from start to finish over Vanity 6 or The Mary Jane Girls albums but not for there vocal abilities because Apollonia can't sing but that Prince raw funk is definitely present in the songs Some Kinda Lover, A Million Miles and Blue Limousine.
TBH Rick James And Prince Had More Of A Rivalry Than What The Media Says About Michael And Prince Rick And Prince Even Came Close To Getting Physical That's Definitely What I Would Call A Rivalry Michael And Prince On The Other Hand Never Had A Rivalry That Was All Media Nothing But Respect And Love.
If anything, they should make a tv series about the rivalry between Rick James and Prince. And make sure that it’s made with love for both of them, but also with a critical view. An honest and respectful portrait of them both. And in between all of that you’ll have all the conflicts inside of each camp, as well as The Time etc. Would be a fine drama, with a bit of soap opera. The music performances doesn’t have to dominate. Dialogue, background music, the club, writing, every now and then, here and there, some actual performances. But doesn’t have to rely on the actors being as multi talented as these guys were.
I hate to say this because I grow up listening to Rick James and digging his funk way more then Prince. But when the smoke cleared Prince wind up being a way better artist then Rick James. What messed up Rick James was his drug use. If Rick would have never turned to drugs there’s know telling how things would have gone down between the two.
The PRINCE of editing everything PRINCE...in storyline. Bringing electric life to every image and interview for a wonderful reliving. That's what the creator of this series is.
Rick had far better quality albums, Prince had more classical singles and crossover appeal! Had MTV promoted Street Songs 81 it would have went through the roof like Thriller and Purple Rain! Street Songs still was a monster regardless!
I saw this bill three times. I watched Prince turn into the Mid Western version of Rick James. Prince had his folks in the stands filming when Rick James was on stage.
Thanks for this info, I believe it. Prince was a true genius but he was not above scoping the competition and plotting to take their spot. Rick opened the door for Prince.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This edited version is amazing and 30 minutes and I still could have watched more! The whole Rick James saga is entertaining. Much respect to all the talented groups but for me Vanity 6 were electric/fire - Mary Jane Girls and even A6 didn't have what V6 had Susan/Brenda/Vanity just sizzled or maybe it is just the folklore of them being part of the legendary Triple Threat Tour ,-idk but V6 just brought something different. I wasn't ready for that clip of Teena Marie singing 😮😎💜 I love Jill Jones and the clips of Jill and Vanity telling their stories in their own words. Vanity falling in love with Prince in LA and then coming to cold Minneapolis to join Prince and his harem.😮😮😮 How Prince handled his women makes me wonder if her really did do some kind of mind control🤣🤣🤣 The double screen of MaryJane Girls and V6 was a legit treat. You spoiled us @Sinnik22 this was amazing.
I enjoyed BOTH!! WHO CARES about who out performed who!! Hell I saw The Time upstage Prince but it did not mean that much to me,they just had the better show that night or that tour. And to be honest MTV did not let MANY of the black artist on their show AND it was rumored that Warner Brothers saw that Michael was going solo(in the late seventies) and needed somebody to compete with him and they found the right one for it! As far as Rick, his first four albums were awesome and had MTV gave Rick some spots it may have been a little different who knows. I will admit after seeing Rick perform a couple of times as a teenager you could tell he was cocky as hell!! Hey just about ANY band can get upstaged on any night or any tour! Prince did seem to be more focused on his career and did not let the drugs and booze interfere. I was a big fan BOTH at certain points one just had a better career than the other. I play Rick James songs and jam out and I do the same with Prince. Thank GOD for BOTH!!!
And these three the greatest talented human beings on planet Earth, are now in one place discussing the music again! Rest in peace Prince Rogers Nelson, rest in peace Rick James and Lil soulful Wyte Mama Tina Marie rest in peace baby y'all change the world!
Holy shit what an amazing time to be alive, I wish so badly I could be there on that tour, to experience the stories that sounds so crazy it sounds made up
This was a very kool video. Thx! These stories when they were just making it, are amazing! All young talented & alive! Rick James, Prince, Vanity & Tina Marie Thanks for the Phenomenal and beautiful music! may u be resting in peace. 🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾
I Love prince and his music 💘 he was the best entertainer and artist and Michael Jackson is the king of pop and both was gifted and genius and the best entertainer in this world and I will always love and respect and them both
Rick the pimp could never beat the real deal that had it naturally born with it indeed knew how to rock it did not have to get real high to show it natural funk indeed prince the best to ever succeed
Look Rick was jealous / look Prince had his own style and so did Rick's camp !!! (( Teena Marie is an all time fave of mine )) and Vanity 6 Rocked hella porn soundtrack "nasty girl" was the most controversial record out at the time / Mary Jane girls were dope as well but a tad bit traditional R&B again Vanity 6 was penthouse soundtrack !!! & the 70s were blazing with female funk trio's Labelle / Brides of funkenstien / Starguard / the Ritchie Family etc......
Mary Jane Girls had much more singing and performance skills than Vanity 6. I loved V6 as a concept and visual group but MJG's had greats songs and performance and were sexier, more curves. MJG were closer to Brides of Funkestein & Parlet than V6. Rick may have envied Prince's success but Rick had more success with MJG than Prince with V6.
You'd be jealous too if someone you were giving exposure to started doing your act right before you did it. I saw this bill three times. I watched Prince turn into the Mid Western version of Rick James. Prince had his folks in the stands filming when Rick James was on stage.
@@michaelmckenzie6311 MTV should have been on blast. This is just another example of racism that black people had to bulldoze down. David Bowie asked an early MTV host or founder why there were no black artists on MTV. The man said we have to worry about Prince scaring the hell out of little white girls in middle America. Really? Facts look up video interview it is on TH-cam. His name was Bennnie Goodman I believe.
@@williemurphy2421 Had MTV played Street Songs 81", it would've sold through the roof before Thriller and Purple Rain! Still was a monster selling album w/out mainstream push! Rick was a rebel(Aquarius gang) and genius w/original style and music! RIP Rick, Prince and MJ! Respect and RIP Bowie too!
Great stuff. Tina Marie was beautiful and talented as heck. Prince had a vision and nothing was gonna stop him not even the booing that happened his first tour with The Rolling Stones. He knew he was a genius. And so was Slick Rick James. Drugs did him in. And eventually it did in prince too. Sucks!
Teena Marie was low key Prince before Prince she could play all the instruments and could sing her ass off. I really never knew much about her before I started researching for this series. Underrated.
I am a big Prince fan i also like Rick James.As far as i am concerned i thick Rick was a little jealous of Prince.Its sad 2 brothers could not give each other mutual respect for each other me personally if u are a little bit better than me i would respect that and compliment your success..
If MTV had played Rick James 100 times a day like they did Prince Rick Would have been so much bigger than Prince. I saw the Rick James tour with Prince. Prince evolved into Rick James filming his shows. Rick still blew him away. Rick exposed MTV as racist. MTV said "we'll show you we'll play Prince 100 times a day but still won't play you."
@@bookzone5960 This could be true on a small extent, but imo the largest blow was Rick messed around with them drugs too much while Prince continued to be shrewd and focused. And that is perhaps how Prince made it to the top to where MJ became his main competition...would Rick have made it to the top to then compete with the likes of MJ and Prince at that level had the drugs not gotten in the way, just off of MTV plays? I dunno...we will never know...
Good post. Born and raised in Detroit, I think of a DJ we had back then by the name of The Electrifying Mojo. Mojo introduced Prince to Detroit as well as many other artists.
Vanity was Gorgeous her and prince were the most gorgeous couple I’ve ever seen . To bad they never married they would of been the hottest couple so sad may they both Rest In Peace there together now in Heaven . Out of all the women prince had vanity was the most beautiful girl in the world . That song should of been vanity s song . Sorry myte nothing personal . She truly was the most beautiful girl .
I think a lot of the clash is just age and personality differences. Rick I think just kept it more real and never seemed afraid to give credit where it’s due, whereas Prince seemed obsessed with coming off as mysterious and esoteric and was never shy about letting people know he could or did it all on his own. Both had insane levels of drive and talent. For what it’s worth aside from the drugs and insanity Rick generated, you never hear anyone who played with him or was involved with him professionally ever bad mouth him or tell any unflattering stories. The same cannot be said of Prince who seems to have a trail of ex members who praise his talent but don’t hesitate to reveal many terrible stories of mistreatment. The mind games Prince played with The Time according to Jesse Johnson such as not letting them play shows depending on his mood and control issues probably just scratch the surface of some incredible character flaws. I always felt Rick was down for his crew whereas Prince looked at everyone as expendable.
"I remember in the 80's, me and my girlfriend was in the store, and some light skin dude with a perm, was starring at us like Dracula, my girlfriend start laughing and said...who the hell that weirdo think he is? I said...oh he just a Prince wannabe...you know Prince stare at women, to hypnotize them baby...so if his hypnosis ain't working...that let you know, he ain't no dam Prince"🤷🏾♂️
Prince was booed off the stage opening for the Rolling Stones. Rick did him a favor and and pulled him off the scrap heap. Unlike Cameo, The Bar-kays and even Michael Jackson admitted to liking Rick James music and stated they all borrowed. Prince was the only one who stole acts and never admitted to being influenced.
Prince was booed because of the racism of the crowd, they loyal to their heroes (Rolling Stones) and be damn they was going to let a unknown black guy who can play rock upstage their group however Mick Jagger wasn't having it & urge the crowd to cool it,Jimi went to though this opening up for the Monkees.
I prefer Rick James over Prince. Drugs ruined Rick. The rivalry was between Michael Jackson, Rick James and Prince during the early 80's. MJ took off, Prince took off, and Rick James was behind bars.
People already forgot that in 1981 and 1982, Rick James was bigger than Prince. Street Songs album is bigger than Controversy, artistically and commercially. When Throwin' Down album came out in Spring 1982, songs Dance Wit Me and Standing In The Top (with The Temptations) are huge, but the album is only gold compared to Street Songs. And finally, Prince came out with his classic 1999 album in late October 1982 and when Little Red Corvette video clip was played in heavy rotation on MTV, he took the lead. Rick James came back in August 1983 with 'Cold Blooded' album but it was done at that point for him, drugs already destroyed him!
@@Sinnik22 Prince the Brash new Challenger had the fan base crowd Buzzing, plus his technical skill & artistry, made u Quit or go home & PRACTICE, Straight up ear & eye sex, Rick James the Funk Veteran, blew the lid off the Roof, and Ricks groove was long, loud & strong, as a note the Stone city band was the first band I'd ever seen, use Kettle Drums, 11,500 Minds Blown. Successful Tour.👊🏾
Prince is the most unusual,outrageous charming,mesmerizing, enchanting, spelling binding,beyond talented , gorgeous and sexy man ever ! No one can ever hold a candle to him in aspect, he is an enigma, he is PRINCE the one and only and I thank God he lived in my lifetime. That man has had such an influence on me , he is my role model , my hero and I love him like no other !!! Rick James isn't even in Prince's league!
Respectfully...we do both of them the Greatest Injustice with our eagerness to compare...in doing so,is to shortchange either of them in the most unGodliest of ways - Long Live Rick ~ Long Live Prince
I am a huge fan of Prince 🤴 💜. I love Rick James ❤️. I also love both of their lady groups. ❤️ and 🌄 ♥️ ❤️ 💖 💕. Purple Rain 🌂 ☂️ ☔️ 🌧 💜. I just found this channel lawd!!!
@@Sinnik22 To be honest it just popped up on my TH-cam when I opened it yesterday. It found me without searching. I asked myself? Why have I never seen this amazing channel prior!!!
Rick James was a better R and B artist ❤️ than Prince back in the early eighties Rick was a seasoned artist and Prince was the new kid on the block no one knew Prince that well back then we 💕 were not sure if what Prince would do if he wanted to stay in the music industry or go on to be a savoy billionaire business man one thing that was clear is that Prince was a true Hollywood super star no doubt about it even way back then Prince was just that good we 💕 all knew that Prince was something special a great powerhouse rest easy Prince we 💕 love you this is Geraldine Walker from Saginaw Michigan
I’ve just discovered this channel. This is incredible
Glad you’re here. Enjoy.
I agree 100 percent. I've never seen this kind of in depth information on the Rick James/Prince rivalry anywhere. This is great stuff.
Saw Princes 1st show in N.Y. Awesome, w-ass out in his chaps.Rick James at music fair was awesome 1 of best shows ever seen and seen them all Rj
As much as I love MR.RICK JAMES ....PRINCE WAS A STRAIGHT UP GENIUS PERIOD
Well said. No question. A bad man.
Definitely and RJ was a genius too BUT drugs got in the way. 🙁
Sure was💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
......and Rick James WASN'T??!!
COCAINES A HELL OF A DRUG RICK JAMES (1948-2004) RIP SUPERFREAK!
Rick James and Prince should not be compared. They both had their own style and the world of funk would be completely different if they had never made music.
Also Rick James career would have lasted alot longer. But his obsession with drugs ended a very promising career.
The comparison with Prince and Rick James was that they were musicians that actually could sing , as well as write ,arrange and produce music . The both of them were self contained , also at that time funk was chants or the whole band singing it together , or may have 2 or 3 lead singers . So that's where the comparison comes in
I'm sorry but We all have to agree that Both Prince and Rick James were both great talented people who didn't probably like each other personally but they both gave the whole world great music to listen to! Thanks for sharing this video!
Cheers mate!
I agree. They both left it all on the stage.
Amen! Rick James could song his ass off! Rick was a bad ass also. Its easy said and done, Holly Wood is very strange! And People do things to relax even though they knowe it will takee them out of here. We lost alot of great entertainers but when u play in the devils play ground u better know what your doing. Your not going to get tiches and fame sitting on your ass. You have to do what you r told!!
You're right. Rick James and Prince were both equally talented and couldn't stand each other because they were equal in talent and showmanship. A radio station here in D.C. had a battle between Rick James and Prince on the radio Saturday afternoon and people called in to vote. The final tally was kind of tight but Prince won 65/35. Both artists were dynamic forces of nature.
Rick James wouldn't have anything to worry about if he had left them drugs alone and did what he was supposed to do.
I agree with you 100%.
Yep rick had just as much talent as michael and prince. But his mind got destroyed.
if you really read up on people that have an addiction it's never ok i'm gonna stop .
Rick just wanted to 🎶 party all the time, party all the time, party all the ti-ime.🎶 And Prince just wanted to work all the time, work all the time and become a musical icon and le-gend 🎶. Ironic that drugs killed both of them.
@@WrvrUgoThrUR Yes, that’s true but the only difference is one for pain and one for pleasure.
Prince was smart
He knew not to put his business on the street. I must add what a fantastic musician Prince was. He played the piano and guitar like a madman❗
A beautiful soul gone.
PRINCE WAS ONE OF A KIND, VERY SMART, AND VERY INTELLIGENT. WILL REMEMBER HIM ALWAYS. 🥰🥰🥰
i'm a Retired peace officer and a prior Marine that's become some what detached over the years. so when i learned of Prince's passing i was my usual detached self and shrugged it off but then these tears came, and they came from seemingly out of no where and i thought what in the world i don't even know this brother why am i mourning? i'm still somewhat surprised at my reaction on that day.
ReaL talk bruh. Thank you.
Prince was in another league …as usual
Vanity was one of the sexiest creatures I’ve ever seen, and Prince was involved with her … as usual
Nothing compares to Prince and most were to dim to actually SEE Him…AS USUAL
FACTS! FACTS! FACTS!
All this information on Prince is true.
Rick was ten years older than Prince and he could not handle how much talented Prince was at his age and he was jealous of him
Somewhat true. Nobody will admit that Rick's racy image and music was a major influence on Prince's breakout as an edgy cross-genre musician. Rick was a multi-instrumentalist, producer, risque dresser (bikinis & boots), with a multi-racial band and women of every race around him. Sound familiar? Yes Prince drew a lot from Rick.
😂🤣✌️ prince was trash to me, also was overrated
Rick was more so upset w/MTV which spewed over into Prince and a little bit on MJ! If anything, Ricks' tour broke Prince out of his shyness! Prince was going to strike big because he was younger and not afraid to take chances!
Rick was talented as well. He understood Prince's bs but did not understand why people liked it.
Prince got the multiracial and gender band idea from Sly and The Family Stone. Plus after Purple Rain, Rick started wearing ruffles and later wore his hair similar to Prince. Both were great at what they did.
The amount of love and appreciation given to this channel isn’t just dumb luck. This man earned all his fans from his talent and hard work. You should all share this with people to help the creator get more views
Thank you!
The Prince appearance on American Bandstand was all everyone was talking about on the phone that weekend and at school on Monday.
RIP to all these legends!!🙏🏾🎶
Preach
Rick was criticizing Prince's wardrobe... but did he NOT wear red thigh high boots for the 'Street Songs' album? Wow.
True words...“Healer heal thyself”
And beaded extensions at that, and all glittered up lol. Rick was just as glam as Prince was.
@@jovanreid6782 oh fo sho!
Rick was great at criticizing people for stuff that he did himself. Just like dissing Charlie Murphy for being in the Navy. In what branch of service did Rick James spend most of his time in jail (the stockade)? The NAVY. 🙄
And them ruffled shirts during the "Glow" era... Love the song but that video is hideous.
Prince won Rick. Prince was just multi talented and a force that could not be ignored. He was a bad mother......
If you say so.
Rick won the Vanity 6 vs Mary jane Girls battle.
@@zmcleod4583 sheeeeeet. Dude, don’t even try it. Prince did it all. And he was a virtuoso in everything he touched. No one can deny that.
@@gustercc but Rick James was the originator. PRINCE stole his ideas. You can't deny THAT!😏😌
@@zmcleod4583 originator of what? Cause James Brown, sly stone and George Clinton might have something to say about dat. 😋
Who would imagine Rick James,Teena Marie and Prince will be gone?
and Mike and Whitney and David Robert Jones
them and so many others that I grew up on.
😭😭😭😭
Sad, ain’t it? 😥😥😥
@@Sinnik22 don’t forget George Michael either 😭
Awesome footage with Tina.. she was such a talent so underrated.. but such a powerful voice.. I can only imagine what a duet with Prince would've sounded like.?
Totally agree ,This footage of Lady T is so beautiful to Me. Especially Her piano solo. Man!!!!. Her and Prince would of had a beautiful duet,had they worked together. I grew up on Her music when I was child,My Mom use to jam Her albums in our household. R.I.P Teena Lady T Marie.
Beautiful as ever!
Have you ever notice that not once while Prince was alive he never talked about Rick James in any kind of way but he has mentioned Micheal Jackson but when Rick James died he still never talked about Rick James but when mj died Prince was very sadden about that even though the media kept it as a rivalry between Prince and Michael Jackson when it really wasn't he respected Micheal Jackson alot .. They were all talented musician . Prince Micheal Jackson and Rick James .Gone but never forgotten
Prince respected Mike and Rick on different levels I imagine.
@@Sinnik22 agreed. Prince never mentioned Rick James because they were both fighting for the same lane of Top Black Pop Rock Star. Rick had a long history in Rock working with Neil Young and Buffalo Springfield. He wanted the spot Jimi Hendrix & Sly Stone had and bigger. Prince wanted it too and Rick was his only competition at that time.
Prince was jealous of michael
@ Prince was likely envious of MJ's talents and unprecedented popularity. That's why Prince would show-off his instrumental skills that MJ evidently did not have or exhibit. Will.I.Am & MJ went to a Prince show and Prince came to where they were sitting, playing bass to MJ. And Will said MJ was like "why is Prince playing bass in my face?! hahahaa
@@reimourrpower9357 no jealous not envious there's a major difference between the two
My father was there in Detroit and always told me that "Prince won". It was billed as "Rick James Vs Prince" .Detroit was one of the 1st markets to go crazy over Prince .At the time ,Rick was the obvious star and had huge commercial success. I feel both artist are exceptional and each have contributed in their own right. Heaven has the Ultimate Band right now(smile)
Rick turned the power off on when prince was on stage
I was there, this was my second concert, My first concert was Parliament/Funkadelic.They all performed at the Olympia Stadium located at Grand River west of Joy Rd. There's a vacant lot there now.
What did Prince do when Rick James did that?
I attended the show in Toledo around the same time and Prince destroyed him. We left before Rick James finished lol.
Ur dad was right ✅ bro!👍💯💯💯😁👍
The greatest artists of all times! Prince, Lady T and Slick Rick James! Loved this video, made my day!😁❤️💜❤️💜 Thank you for sharing.
Prince was boundless. Even punk rock got flipped on its ass by the heir of Prince.
Prince himself had a very punk rock thing about him in the early years.
Rick James invented Punk Funk.
This was something of course Rick and Prince had been battling each other for early on one of my favorite part was seeing Teena Marie hearing her sing just brings me chills I missed her but all in all this was great 👍🏾
That "Soul Glo" musical insert was hilarious 😆 🤣
OMG. Im alive because of that insert. Lol!
Rick was about the dope and the women. Prince was about the music and the music.
@AMERICAN KING nope nope and nope...face it, rick had a short short run and then it was about the dope. You don't need to make up shit.... documented.... get real.
MJ and Prince had a very "friendly rivalry"...But Rick James and Prince???😑Now THAT'S a totally different story altogether.
Thats some real dislike. Prince never EVER mentions his name it seems.
They are all gone. Left their mark on this earth for sure for sure. Mr. Rick James Ms. Teena Marie and Mr. Prince Roger Nelson. List goes on and on. 70,'s,80's and 90's artist have us so much substance.
Mary Jane Girls were definitely a better constructed & more talented group than Vanity 6. They had more professional production on their two albums more in line with Brides of Funkenstein & Parlet. I understand Rick being salty about his concept being beaten to market by Prince. But MJG's success with All Night Long, Boys, Candy Man, In My House, etc. must have brought some vindication. V6 had Nasty Girl & that's about it.
One of the MJG was a BOF too.
@@Sinnik22 I'm sorry what does 'BOF' mean?
@@reimourrpower9357 Brides of Funkenstein (Parliament)
Mary Jane Girls definitely had more talent but Vanity 6 had more sex appeal they were gorgeous especially Vanity. I personally prefer Apollnia 6 album from start to finish over Vanity 6 or The Mary Jane Girls albums but not for there vocal abilities because Apollonia can't sing but that Prince raw funk is definitely present in the songs Some Kinda Lover, A Million Miles and Blue Limousine.
Fax
31 minutes and 21 seconds. Nice touch!
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Oh SNAP!!!!
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The best Prince/Rick James documentary ever. Really good stuff!! They were both music masterminds.
really?
TBH Rick James And Prince Had More Of A Rivalry Than What The Media Says About Michael And Prince Rick And Prince Even Came Close To Getting Physical That's Definitely What I Would Call A Rivalry Michael And Prince On The Other Hand Never Had A Rivalry That Was All Media Nothing But Respect And Love.
If anything, they should make a tv series about the rivalry between Rick James and Prince. And make sure that it’s made with love for both of them, but also with a critical view. An honest and respectful portrait of them both. And in between all of that you’ll have all the conflicts inside of each camp, as well as The Time etc. Would be a fine drama, with a bit of soap opera. The music performances doesn’t have to dominate. Dialogue, background music, the club, writing, every now and then, here and there, some actual performances. But doesn’t have to rely on the actors being as multi talented as these guys were.
Dam...HBOmax IS a Warner communications thing. I like it.
That would be 🔥
After Feud on Bette Davis and Joan Crawford, I said "they should do the one on Rick and Prince". 😂
I hate to say this because I grow up listening to Rick James and digging his funk way more then Prince. But when the smoke cleared Prince wind up being a way better artist then Rick James. What messed up Rick James was his drug use. If Rick would have never turned to drugs there’s know telling how things would have gone down between the two.
@Tony No competition, made it easy for Prince are you kidding me? MJ was his major competition.
Nothing but truth spoken here!! Rick James was the Baddest Man in his day!! Prince outlasted him n his body of work, because of his drug use!!
@@ricardocorbie6803, by 1984 it was over for Rick!
Rick and Prince both came out in 1978, by 1984 it was over for Rick!
@@mrflynn01 I agree, Rick actually came out in 1977, Prince used to open up for Rick!! Damn Both went out by drugs! SMDH
The PRINCE of editing everything PRINCE...in storyline. Bringing electric life to every image and interview for a wonderful reliving. That's what the creator of this series is.
Prince whooped Rick James’s Ass and Rick knew it, and I’m a Rick James fan!🤣🤣
Lol prince is too short but oh well
Yeah I'm a Rick James fan too but Rick got jealous of Prince when Prince hit the big time
Rick had far better quality albums, Prince had more classical singles and crossover appeal! Had MTV promoted Street Songs 81 it would have went through the roof like Thriller and Purple Rain! Street Songs still was a monster regardless!
They’re equally good in my opinion
@@zdsrtgnzetmyet Indeed, I will admit I listen to way more Rick! Just that genuine style and sound is infectious!
"I didn't make them, but yeah we had pancakes"...
Great way to extend this excellent series! Well done!
Jill talking and Vanity fade in...priceless.
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Jill was so 🔥hot🔥
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"This lil thaang in high heel stilettos" this lil foe foot 9 thaang 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hilarious
Prince refused to be produced by anyone other than Prince and his multiple artistic expressions
The best musician ever. An upgrade of
Mr James Brown.
Both were great May they rest in peace 🙏 👑👑
I saw this bill three times. I watched Prince turn into the Mid Western version of Rick James. Prince had his folks in the stands filming when Rick James was on stage.
I agree I did see Prince evolve into Rick James and he was one off the few BLACK artist who were played on MTV.
Thanks for this info, I believe it. Prince was a true genius but he was not above scoping the competition and plotting to take their spot. Rick opened the door for Prince.
I fully agree
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This edited version is amazing and 30 minutes and I still could have watched more! The whole Rick James saga is entertaining. Much respect to all the talented groups but for me Vanity 6 were electric/fire - Mary Jane Girls and even A6 didn't have what V6 had Susan/Brenda/Vanity just sizzled or maybe it is just the folklore of them being part of the legendary Triple Threat Tour ,-idk but V6 just brought something different. I wasn't ready for that clip of Teena Marie singing 😮😎💜 I love Jill Jones and the clips of Jill and Vanity telling their stories in their own words. Vanity falling in love with Prince in LA and then coming to cold Minneapolis to join Prince and his harem.😮😮😮 How Prince handled his women makes me wonder if her really did do some kind of mind control🤣🤣🤣 The double screen of MaryJane Girls and V6 was a legit treat. You spoiled us @Sinnik22 this was amazing.
I heard that prince told Jill that she was the old lady on the ATWIAD cover. Cuz she would wait forever for him.
I enjoyed BOTH!! WHO CARES about who out performed who!! Hell I saw The Time upstage Prince but it did not mean that much to me,they just had the better show that night or that tour. And to be honest MTV did not let MANY of the black artist on their show AND it was rumored that Warner Brothers saw that Michael was going solo(in the late seventies) and needed somebody to compete with him and they found the right one for it! As far as Rick, his first four albums were awesome and had MTV gave Rick some spots it may have been a little different who knows. I will admit after seeing Rick perform a couple of times as a teenager you could tell he was cocky as hell!! Hey just about ANY band can get upstaged on any night or any tour! Prince did seem to be more focused on his career and did not let the drugs and booze interfere. I was a big fan BOTH at certain points one just had a better career than the other. I play Rick James songs and jam out and I do the same with Prince. Thank GOD for BOTH!!!
I WISH I could share a The “Rock” applause gif rn 😢PREACH ✊🏽
At the end of the day every one of they jams is a bop
And these three the greatest talented human beings on planet Earth, are now in one place discussing the music again! Rest in peace Prince Rogers Nelson, rest in peace Rick James and Lil soulful Wyte Mama Tina Marie rest in peace baby y'all change the world!
Who could ever replace?
@@Sinnik22 Bravo well said
I wish I could time travel and be at this tour. Rick was big time jealous of Prince.
Holy shit what an amazing time to be alive, I wish so badly I could be there on that tour, to experience the stories that sounds so crazy it sounds made up
Can you imagine. Half the stuff prince bumped into just like whoooops. Berry Gordy’s niece...whoops.
This was a very kool video. Thx! These stories when they were just making it, are amazing! All young talented & alive! Rick James, Prince, Vanity & Tina Marie Thanks for the Phenomenal and beautiful music! may u be resting in peace. 🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾
Very interesting they all came from a small area blocks apart
This was so insightful thanks for sharing
Big Prince fan or music in general?
I Love prince and his music 💘 he was the best entertainer and artist and Michael Jackson is the king of pop and both was gifted and genius and the best entertainer in this world and I will always love and respect and them both
DAMN......I love and miss Tina Marie RIP beautiful baby 🌹💋💋
She was fantastic
Vanity for the win!!!
Rick the pimp could never beat the real deal that had it naturally born with it indeed knew how to rock it did not have to get real high to show it natural funk indeed prince the best to ever succeed
Jil Jones was got damn beautiful
He treated her not great
She still is. Sweet lady, too.
Vanity had amazing presence but the Mary Jane Girls had more talent...I think they had more hits too.
Sinnik killing it again!! Excellent!
Don’t wanna lose it... but I’m not like that🎶
Look Rick was jealous / look Prince had his own style and so did Rick's camp !!! (( Teena Marie is an all time fave of mine )) and Vanity 6 Rocked hella porn soundtrack "nasty girl" was the most controversial record out at the time / Mary Jane girls were dope as well but a tad bit traditional R&B again Vanity 6 was penthouse soundtrack !!! & the 70s were blazing with female funk trio's Labelle / Brides of funkenstien / Starguard / the Ritchie Family etc......
Mary Jane Girls had much more singing and performance skills than Vanity 6. I loved V6 as a concept and visual group but MJG's had greats songs and performance and were sexier, more curves. MJG were closer to Brides of Funkestein & Parlet than V6. Rick may have envied Prince's success but Rick had more success with MJG than Prince with V6.
Rick was only envious when MTV wouldn't play his vids! Him putting MTV on blast is why Michael and Prince got spins!
You'd be jealous too if someone you were giving exposure to started doing your act right before you did it. I saw this bill three times. I watched Prince turn into the Mid Western version of Rick James. Prince had his folks in the stands filming when Rick James was on stage.
@@michaelmckenzie6311 MTV should have been on blast. This is just another example of racism that black people had to bulldoze down. David Bowie asked an early MTV host or founder why there were no black artists on MTV. The man said we have to worry about Prince scaring the hell out of little white girls in middle America. Really? Facts look up video interview it is on TH-cam. His name was Bennnie Goodman I believe.
@@williemurphy2421 Had MTV played Street Songs 81", it would've sold through the roof before Thriller and Purple Rain! Still was a monster selling album w/out mainstream push! Rick was a rebel(Aquarius gang) and genius w/original style and music! RIP Rick, Prince and MJ! Respect and RIP Bowie too!
Loved both of them in the 80s. Still got my 1999 vinyl album and 45 single of Give it to me Baby. 😎💙🔥
Great stuff. Tina Marie was beautiful and talented as heck. Prince had a vision and nothing was gonna stop him not even the booing that happened his first tour with The Rolling Stones. He knew he was a genius. And so was Slick Rick James. Drugs did him in. And eventually it did in prince too. Sucks!
Teena Marie was low key Prince before Prince she could play all the instruments and could sing her ass off. I really never knew much about her before I started researching for this series. Underrated.
Prince’s situation was different. I imagine you’ve never dealt with chronic pain - keep your opinions to yourself.
I am a big Prince fan i also like Rick James.As far as i am concerned i thick Rick was a little jealous of Prince.Its sad 2 brothers could not give each other mutual respect for each other me personally if u are a little bit better than me i would respect that and compliment your success..
You Rick James haters need to view this subjective video: th-cam.com/video/DAgEtgBdVM4/w-d-xo.html
Agreed
If MTV had played Rick James 100 times a day like they did Prince Rick Would have been so much bigger than Prince. I saw the Rick James tour with Prince. Prince evolved into Rick James filming his shows. Rick still blew him away. Rick exposed MTV as racist. MTV said "we'll show you we'll play Prince 100 times a day but still won't play you."
@@bookzone5960 This could be true on a small extent, but imo the largest blow was Rick messed around with them drugs too much while Prince continued to be shrewd and focused. And that is perhaps how Prince made it to the top to where MJ became his main competition...would Rick have made it to the top to then compete with the likes of MJ and Prince at that level had the drugs not gotten in the way, just off of MTV plays? I dunno...we will never know...
Good post. Born and raised in Detroit, I think of a DJ we had back then by the name of The Electrifying Mojo. Mojo introduced Prince to Detroit as well as many other artists.
Midnight Funk Association 😉
IM STILL A MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING OF THE MIDNIGHT FUNK ASSOCIATION 🤘
Rick James was Salieri to Prince’s Mozart. Watch the Amadeus movie if you don’t get the reference. One was really good and the other was great.
Agreed
Deja Vu! That’s my favorite Teena song.
You’re in good company ☝🏽
Written by Rick(RIP)
Mine too, she killed that song!!
I will never understand why Rick James was so mad with Prince. Sad.
Prince was strict with himself, new, with talent beyond his years. Rick was self destructing and quickly he couldn’t keep up so in comes jealousy.
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This was really good. I am gonna watch it again. Subscribed
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Pretty wild watching this after seeing your great video on Prince vs The Time. 🔥
Vanity was Gorgeous her and prince were the most gorgeous couple I’ve ever seen . To bad they never married they would of been the hottest couple so sad may they both Rest In Peace there together now in Heaven . Out of all the women prince had vanity was the most beautiful girl in the world . That song should of been vanity s song . Sorry myte nothing personal . She truly was the most beautiful girl .
She WAS bad. Vanity was a rocket.
Every woman after her was obviously him trying to replace her
I think a lot of the clash is just age and personality differences. Rick I think just kept it more real and never seemed afraid to give credit where it’s due, whereas Prince seemed obsessed with coming off as mysterious and esoteric and was never shy about letting people know he could or did it all on his own. Both had insane levels of drive and talent. For what it’s worth aside from the drugs and insanity Rick generated, you never hear anyone who played with him or was involved with him professionally ever bad mouth him or tell any unflattering stories. The same cannot be said of Prince who seems to have a trail of ex members who praise his talent but don’t hesitate to reveal many terrible stories of mistreatment. The mind games Prince played with The Time according to Jesse Johnson such as not letting them play shows depending on his mood and control issues probably just scratch the surface of some incredible character flaws. I always felt Rick was down for his crew whereas Prince looked at everyone as expendable.
"I remember in the 80's, me and my girlfriend was in the store, and some light skin dude with a perm, was starring at us like Dracula, my girlfriend start laughing and said...who the hell that weirdo think he is? I said...oh he just a Prince wannabe...you know Prince stare at women, to hypnotize them baby...so if his hypnosis ain't working...that let you know, he ain't no dam Prince"🤷🏾♂️
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Facts!!
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Who was it? Stoney Jackson????
@@DJDaddyAbraham dam😂
Prince was booed off the stage opening for the Rolling Stones. Rick did him a favor and and pulled him off the scrap heap. Unlike Cameo, The Bar-kays and even Michael Jackson admitted to liking Rick James music and stated they all borrowed. Prince was the only one who stole acts and never admitted to being influenced.
The fire it up tour happened prior to The Rolling Stones Booing. th-cam.com/video/RjQnvlcAL9A/w-d-xo.html
Even so, your point is made cuz Rick saw Prince as a young brother he wanted to help get a grounding start on the road.
Prince was booed because of the racism of the crowd, they loyal to their heroes (Rolling Stones) and be damn they was going to let a unknown black guy who can play rock upstage their group however Mick Jagger wasn't having it & urge the crowd to cool it,Jimi went to though this opening up for the Monkees.
Prince is one of a kind, hip hop, the jazz world and everyone in the music
industry knows that, even the Rolling Stones....
No, the Bar-Kay’s have always claimed that Rick James stole from them.
I never knew Teena Marie toured with Prince. She was a whirlwind talent and aggressive. Prince ran from that.
I LOVE!!!!!! TINA MARIE SHE WAS SUCH A ORIGINAL LONG LIVE MOTOWN!!!!!
I prefer Rick James over Prince. Drugs ruined Rick. The rivalry was between Michael Jackson, Rick James and Prince during the early 80's. MJ took off, Prince took off, and Rick James was behind bars.
People already forgot that in 1981 and 1982, Rick James was bigger than Prince. Street Songs album is bigger than Controversy, artistically and commercially. When Throwin' Down album came out in Spring 1982, songs Dance Wit Me and Standing In The Top (with The Temptations) are huge, but the album is only gold compared to Street Songs. And finally, Prince came out with his classic 1999 album in late October 1982 and when Little Red Corvette video clip was played in heavy rotation on MTV, he took the lead. Rick James came back in August 1983 with 'Cold Blooded' album but it was done at that point for him, drugs already destroyed him!
Thanks so much 👑💜💥😍👏🤗👍🥰💥💜👑
Prince was Crowned in Milwaukee 1980, bikini drawers and all, cuz he could jam like nobody's Business 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
Where did you see Prince ? Venue I mean.
@@Sinnik22 Milwaukee Arena
In 1980???? Wow. Details from the show
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@@Sinnik22 Prince the Brash new Challenger had the fan base crowd Buzzing, plus his technical skill & artistry, made u Quit or go home & PRACTICE, Straight up ear & eye sex, Rick James the Funk Veteran, blew the lid off the Roof, and Ricks groove was long, loud & strong, as a note the Stone city band was the first band I'd ever seen, use Kettle Drums, 11,500 Minds Blown. Successful Tour.👊🏾
And they're all gone, even our beautiful and talented Tina.
Hopefully we'll get to hear them again playing all together in paradise.
Sleep well....
I just hollered 😂😂. Was that really Rick James talking about Prince 😂😂😂😂😂
Which part?
but yes...defnitely
When he was talking about Prince wearing pantyhose. It sounded like Rick not Dave Chappell.
Prince is the most unusual,outrageous charming,mesmerizing, enchanting, spelling binding,beyond talented , gorgeous and sexy man ever !
No one can ever hold a candle to him in aspect, he is an enigma, he is PRINCE the one and only and I thank God he lived in my lifetime.
That man has had such an influence on me , he is my role model , my hero and I love him like no other !!!
Rick James isn't even in Prince's league!
Gayle should not have been on Rick's bus, but then again, Prince should have had a talk with his band members about the situation.
This is awesome!
Amazing. These films are the Prince truth.
This is fantastic!
I've been binging this channel HARD! OUTSTANDING creativity!!! Love it.
Yay! Thank you! how are we doing?
So cool Teena Marie
Love this! Thank you thank you thank you!
Beautiful Prince!
Respectfully...we do both of them the Greatest Injustice with our eagerness to compare...in doing so,is to shortchange either of them in the most unGodliest of ways - Long Live Rick ~ Long Live Prince
Thanks very much for the post
I wish all of the ladies mentioned here had A LOT more success.
Everyone involved probably had careers worth 3x what they were paid
Drugs are a helluva drug. Music was Prince's drug and drugs was Rick's drug. END of story.
This story is so intriguing. I wish I could hear it. Some of the audio sounds mumbled
that bad huh. Imma try a refresh of that audio.
A Prince and T.M. song would have been dope. T.M. had a little hood in her. Prince prolly wasnt ready for her. LOL! L8TR 👊!
That Was Awesome!!! 👍👍👍😎
Great compilation!!!
I know u gonna dog this…PRINCE: the TOURS, THE EDIT w/DELETED SCENES
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They didn't know what to say bad about Prince, so they ridiculed his height and that he wears high heals... :( How mean!
This is incredible....
very glad you're liking...keep letting me know as we go
I am a huge fan of Prince 🤴 💜. I love Rick James ❤️. I also love both of their lady groups. ❤️ and 🌄 ♥️ ❤️ 💖 💕. Purple Rain 🌂 ☂️ ☔️ 🌧 💜. I just found this channel lawd!!!
How did you find the channel? Curious 🤔
the REBEL PRINCE: REBEL EDIT, THE EDIT
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@@Sinnik22 To be honest it just popped up on my TH-cam when I opened it yesterday. It found me without searching. I asked myself? Why have I never seen this amazing channel prior!!!
Andre cymone Kelly eyes prince Jill Jones n the picture together Andre cymone got on the blouse shirt prince had on n purple rain lmao 😂😭🤣
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Rick James was a better R and B artist ❤️ than Prince back in the early eighties Rick was a seasoned artist and Prince was the new kid on the block no one knew Prince that well back then we 💕 were not sure if what Prince would do if he wanted to stay in the music industry or go on to be a savoy billionaire business man one thing that was clear is that Prince was a true Hollywood super star no doubt about it even way back then Prince was just that good we 💕 all knew that Prince was something special a great powerhouse rest easy Prince we 💕 love you this is Geraldine Walker from Saginaw Michigan