I love that even mainstream business channels are starting to have real conversations about the future of our cities it gives me some hope that maybe we can do things better
I'm from Los Angeles, and I've visited Sydney countless times. I think Sydney is very well designed especially its transportation network when compared with ours. It's also very well connected between the transport types which is lacking in LA.
And just like the USA, public transport planning is 💩 and gets more 💩 as the regions are poorer. People who need can't afford cars are left with poor public transport, if any at all.
Sadly, Los Angeles and the US in general is ran by car manufacturers and would be a challenge to change people's mindset, let alone build this infrastructure over roads.
I'm a Sydneysider that now lives in London. To me, all of Australia has never quite got public transport right. Our pubic transport systems are middling at best. To be fair, I do think our transport is better than many cities in the US, but worse than Asia and Europe. We're a sort of middle ground that always get's it half-right but never really with any enthusiasm or intensity. I do think the metro is a game changer, and the light rail too. It's only in the last half-decade that light rail has really come online for Sydney, and the metro even more recently.
Sydney must continue with metro lines all over the entire Sydney basin. Build up and clear parkway connections to allow green space to offset the increased density and allow people to move easily. Then intercity trains with business class seats. Build, build, build! Never stop.
@@ianhomerpura8937 yep, loved living in SG. Never needed a car. And despite having a higher population density, it actually felt more spacious and definitely more green.
Previously, there were only two options. A single-family home with plenty of space but far from the services of the center or an apartment in the center with less space. The subway opens up a third option: living far away with a larger house but with a means of transportation that brings you very quickly to the center. Options, options, options, that is exactly what we need.
The problem with apartment living is not that people only want a yard and a picket fence, it’s the strata law that restricts apartment living. If the law makes it easier for people to live in apartments then people won’t mind it as much if the price is right
Agreed. Living in Asia in different cities, I’ve experienced top notch and basic condo living which provides services that no Australian strata management could hold a candle too. A deep focus on reforming strata management is vital in Aus.
@@ianhomerpura8937 until 2021, by-law, landlords don’t need to give you a reason to not allow pets. From my experience, the minute you state that you have a dog, my application would be rejected immediately. That’s the main one for me but there are many other strata rules like you can’t install an aircon without strata approval, you can’t install just any balcony sliding door because it’s considered an exterior facade impacting all the other units, you can’t request for big items pickup anytime as it needs to be done by strata and only when there’s enough items to be collected, you can’t have night parties after 10pm because of noise, you can’t wash your car on common driveways even though the building doesn’t provide one. There’s many more but these are just the few that put you off living in apartments. But my main gripe is the dog one.
@@leroyybrown Opal towers was rectified over 4 years ago without fuss, Mascot towers is a different story de,olition is the rectification as it's such a mess.
It needs more light rail lines. Many people think the light rail was a waste of money compared to the metro, but that misses the point. Light rail and metro have different functions and serve different purposes. Light rail is for inner city and inner suburban high and medium density areas equivalent to bus trips at short, close intervals. Metro is for high capacity, high speed suburb to suburb travel at medium-distances. They complement (not compete) with eachother for different travel reasons and different types of journeys. Sydney needs more light rail AND more metro, not one or the other.
@@AndoCommando1000We absolutely need both more light rail and more Metro lines. But honestly, the only people who thought the metro line was a “waste of money” are people that don’t have to commute very far and rarely go to the city.
I think 9 news hinted a line that will connect the NB -> CBD -> Eastern suburbs in a report last week. Honestly I wouldn't worry about NIMBYS anymore at this stage...I think there is a majority of people there fed up with congestion.
@@RUHappyATM There will always be the ignorant minority that still drive. Yes...I'm surprised that the B-Line gets praised. I reckon users sugarcoat it and deny how actually shit public transport is in the Beaches.
@@kennylee8936 NIMBYs days are numbered. I think with the Sydney metro line opening and the extension to Bankstown next year, it will add pressure to more areas of the Sydney becoming more receptive to seeing this in their part of Sydney. West Sydney metro and the new Airport metro to St Mary's will also show how transformative this infrastructure is. By the decade there will be 2 metro lines (Airport and Sydney Metro) with a third (West Metro) around the corner. It is also rumoured that West Metro will continue past Hunter St in future with an East Sydney extension to Randwick, Maroubra to La Perouse line.
There is an error at 3:41. This newly opened section was only Sydney Metro City. Sydney Metro South West is currently under construction and will open in 2025. Therefore, there are three lines under construction: Metro South West, Metro West and Metro Western Sydney Airport.
I would admit when I visited Sydney many years ago I was surprised how bland and soulless the CBD was, this is typical of a car dependent city where the centre of the city will be designated a CBD, so full of corporate office towers and little else, Auckland where I'm from also suffers from this. Unfortunately Auckland is even more car dependent then Sydney, we tend to only build more roading and if we are lucky we might get a bus lane. Regarding apartment living including walk-ups and townhouses, I think the main problem is the body corporate fees, and not having any land title, this puts many off.
0:42 “The first section opened in 2019 and runs through North Sydney” Not quite, it comes from the North West sydney and runs through finishing at Chatswood. The new extension that just opened us the one was runs through North Sydney, with Victoria Cross acting as the new station in North Sydney.
Well done Sydney. I wrote the only known song celebrating the 2nd Harbour crossing on my channel. Melbourne is a shambles and desperately needs a airport rail connection.
Melbournian here aswell. Though currently living in Sydney for a few years. There is a big difference in collective attitude towards public transport between the two cities. Loudly opposing progressive infrastructure ideas just seems to be the cool thing to do down there. And the local Melbourne media is also largely to blame. As flawed as it might be in places, the SRL is a terrific concept. Just about every single week in the Melbourne media, there's at least one negative hit piece written up about the SRL. And often written by the same dozen-odd loser opinion columnists over and over again. The sad reality is that a lot of people are dumb, and believe whatever the media feeds them. I no longer research up the SRL on Google Search because I know it's going to be nothing but negativity.
@@eddielong8663 Im hearing you in regards to the media. I think it's an age demographic thing. Print media is dying along with the ink fingered readers. Melbournes concept is brilliant. Making it happen and finding the funds is another question, In saying that? You don't want a foreign contractor with the lowest bid to build it. You get what you pay for. Another big difference between the cities who is running the show. Sydney trains has the state gov at the helm with a bit of private partnership. Vic contracted out a lot of services in the 1980s. In the UK, they regret using private operators as quality of services has declined, lines have closed and fare.prices have soared. Got to ask another question? How is it that Vic don't have ATM card tap and go? Is that in the to hard basket?
@DorkBoy77 I thought they were introducing the ATM card thing at some stage. Delayed, I know, but I think it's coming . Hopefully before I return anyway. Honestly, I don't know much about the political side of things. And how much projects are government funded or privately funded. All I know is that State Labor and State Liberal hate eachother in Victoria. As soon as Andrews got in back in 2014, Labor tore up Liberal's East West Link project. Now, as soon as Liberal are back in, they are promising to do the same thing with the Suburban Rail Loop out of vengeful spite. Which is why the State goes nowhere. I hate both parties.
@@eddielong8663 Exactly, I love to go to Melbourne, but it seems every day there is something in the news about a protest here, and a protest there, no wonder nothing gets done down there, I like pretty much all Sydney siders are very happy with the expansion of public transport with metro / light rail, we desperately needed is as expanding the road network is not the answer, the light rail through the CBD has transformed the streets it's on, all they need to do is redirect more traffic away from the CBD and have more pedestrian / light rail only streets to continue with transforming the city.
@@eddielong8663 To be fair, Sydney Metro also received a great deal of criticism similar to what SRL is receiving now. Once the infrastructure is built though, I assume Melbourne's attitude would start to shift like Sydney has. NSW is going all in and it'll be great to see the same in VIC if the Metro tunnel is a success.
@@kismetau I was thinking about this. The Metro is more frequent and faster, but particularly in the CBD, you would have to factor in station access times, inside and outside, in deciding which service to use, or where to interchange. Central's metro lifts, at least, are very fast, much faster, if less spectacular, then the escalators.
You have to give Phillip credit for answering these unresearched unprofessional questions. The economy is the economy with its up and downs comparing how a city moves it people as efficiency and effectively as possible. Agree London / Toronto has got its city right. Sydney and Melbourne need to change the adoption of transportation.
14 billion sounds like a lot, but considering its aimed at moving workers (and guests) around the city without cramming them onto the roads its not a bad deal, it becomes an absolute bargaan when you compare it to rubbish money sinks like the billions they spent on stadiums
I would like to see a Sydney Metro North East Line aka Northern Beaches with an extension to places beyond such as Gosford, Erina etc… and stops at places like Manly, Brookvale/Warringah Mall, Mono Vale etc…
forgot Singapore ... opening half a dozen stations every year, no low density housing. Australia is building underground railway to catch up and alleviate horrifying congestion and planning blunders and upgrading seriously outdated rail systems.
He grew up in Perth! 😊 Urban planning is needed with a 30 year vision at least! Because it feels like planning is 10 years behind population growth, in Perth!
Why talking about London and Toronto? we already have successful country with Excellent public transport if not the best in our neighbor country in fact you can see in the chart... you have special allergy with Asian city?
He was talking about cities transitioning from low to high density not transport. Asian cities are super high density already so does not apply to that specific question.
@@timtam53191 how does NYC fit into this? Ignored Asian cities because they are not western. For example, Tokyo is made of multiple centers and low-density areas in between.
Aye re Transit oriented Development, but they seem obsessed with Metro specifically. The suburban rail network can ALSO support TOD, but you'd think only the Metro existed to listen to this (presumably because they're interviewing a Metro person). Sydney's su8rburban rail system is great and needs attention too.
Great idea but this high density is not the way to go. Try getting in and out of Tallawong Station. Ridiculous. That should have joined the Richmond Train line as Tallawong is in the middle of nowhere and parking is a joke.
Parking shouldn't be an issue if more people take public transport...if anything there should be more bus services getting people to the metro station from their homes. If more people take public transport, there will be less cars...therefore increasing reliability of buses.
@@kennylee8936 agree and Richmond train line is not the priority it is extending the metro to connect st Mary’s and Tallawong and connecting the western Sydney airport to the northwest netro
@@gorgu08 100%, and we should worry first about connecting the airport to Liverpool, Glenfield, and Campbelltown...the st Mary's airport line should've been done last.
@@gorgu08 Extending it to Schofields WOULD be important to people living in the outer North West, and in any case it would be a first stage in extending it to St Marys and the WSA Metro and Western line. Unfortunately, they decided to run the WSA Metro on a different voltage(!) and train configuration, so they cannot be completely linked unless they do something like dual-voltage trains, and I don't know what else. But they could have an interchange somewhere.
@@mt-mg7tt yes would probs be a touch and leave service a bit like they did with the northwest metro and the T1 in Chatswood cross the platform and continue your journey :-)
They build these in parallel to existing heavy rail meaning this duplication makes the existing heavy rail redundant! What a waste of money. There are parts of Sydney that don't have either!
I tried the new train once. For a single use just one stop it is passable but I feel long term use over several stops it will be lacking in the comfort stakes. Then what do you expect for something design overseas for a different cliental . The intention was good but the design and manufacturing should have been done here by Australians. Australian designs may not have the cosmetic appearance of overseas designs ,but Australian design and manufacture surpasses all long time usage , comforts and reliability. That is fact not penny pinching thinking.
I agree with this, comfort on the metro is definitely a criticism Metro fanboys have a hard time accepting. A layout similar to Perth's suburban trains would've been better.
@@ronvorbach1464 not sure what you mean! I found it really comfortable and I was so pleased to see wheelchair users and people with prams sail on to the metro with no trouble at all.
I’m a bit disappointed with the modest buildings above Martin Pl and Gadigal stations. In HK they have skyscrapers above the MRT stations like ICC that has a Ritz-Carlton hotel on the top floors. Downtown Sydney needs more mixed use buildings and above the Metro stations is the ideal place.
As a Sydneysider it's a massive success. Of course, it's only one line, but it is intended to be the first of many new lines to be built. Therefore, it's working exactly as intended (even better) and is transformative. It has added a high capacity, high speed rail link to several far-flung suburbs that previously had zero rail connections, it's reduced travel times to other rail-based areas by a third or more, and it's connected several places that were previously NOT directly connected, and it's added a brand new harbour crossing connection - all while boosting capacity, shortening distances and adding more optoins. It's wonderful.
A world class city needs world class public transport Sydney has stepped into the 21st Century. The legacy Sydney electric suburban service is a joke. The electric trains are painfully slow and often you feel is quicker to walk. Why this is I have no idea. London has an all electric suburn heavy rail network and it is way quicker than Sydney. We need more metros, the Tallawong to Sydenham metro is world class. More please.
I don't think they are that slow. the inner-suburban trains have to stop at a lot of stations. I do think the suburban rail network (and interurban!) need some love, and shouldn't become the poor relation of the Metro.
i still don't understand why it doubles the lines, i.e. there are existing train lines parallel to the metro. also, there are no enough train lines in the west side of sydney remote areas. property price along the new metro is sky high already. i mean adding new line will increase existing property price and not resolve the lack of property supple. sure, high property price will give more revenue to the goverment.
The whole point of the metro is to parallel the existing rail lines, it's too relieve congestion and overcrowding on the trains. You forget these were planned before COVID, and ridership was increasing at an alarming rate.
This is so random, Sydney seems to have gone on a massive media spree about the opening of the new section of the metro, its really quite bizarre. I've seen numerous paid articles on Insta, youtube, all the major newspapers etc.
You can go from the Metro platforms to the Martin place Sydney Trains platforms without having to tap off. So I wold call that connected. You will have to tap off to walk to Hunter St Station (it isn't far), and you will also be able to walk through to Wynyard Station.
@@MrZerg0403 If you want to go to Wynyard from the northwest, change at Chatswood. From the south, change at Central. Gadigal station was deliberately built with no direct underground pedestrian connection to Town Hall, so it would not feed more passengers into an already very busy station. If you are in the City for business or pleasure, choose which option serves you best. So, yes, there is limited connectivity. But that is mostly by design. And as I said, there will be pedestrian connectivity between Martin Place, Hunter St and Wynyard.
New York and Shanghai are souless?? How? They’re the most vibrant cities in the world! People are out and about enjoying all that has to offer. What makes a dying city is by not accomodating people
Crazy take calling cities like Shanghai and New York soulless. You should see Sydney after 5pm, that'll show you soulless. Unchecked suburban sprawl kills cities. You know why cities in Europe get so many tourists? Because they have dense walkable neighbourhoods.
Apartments are ok but not for families where the kids are highly physically active and really do need a yard to play in . More common area is needed where these unit blocks are dominating the skyline. Not all children are studious and want to sit still in 4 walls and look at computer screens. Too unhealthy
We all had our experiences growing up so each to their own is fine. But have you considered the other perspective... kids who grew up with big backyards in low density areas with no transport rely on their "soccer mums" to drive them everywhere, they got no independence without their parents. That's why they sit at home all day in front of the computer. Compare that to the Netherlands where kids ride their bikes everywhere, or Japan where they take transport solo at primary school ages. No parent shuttle needed, freedom to travel the city with their same age mates. Kids in low density suburbia are essentially under house arrest till the day they get their drivers licence.
I grew up in Hong Kong and we're the poster boy of ultra-urbanisation. Cars are the problem - not apartments. Until schoolwork got too busy for us at 7 years old (an issue in its own right), we played and biked on a 3-lane street which ran through the middle of our apartment complex. We felt safe doing that because there were heavy bollards secured with padlocks and chains that cordoned off cars and made us feel safe.
A country as big as Australia don’t need high density cities tbh… we need high speed rails. Sydney is becoming like Singapore which we really don’t need to live this cramped.
Everyone is sick of waiting for these trains in the West and South West. Those Bus train replacements now since 2019 can only be referred to as Vomit Comets. Fed up.
I don't want Sydney to become a New York or Paris. What makes Sydney special is it's abundance of nature and space. The moment we become a super dense city that all goes. This expert probably lived in a nice part of New York... reality is New York and Paris are actually quite ugly (outside of the tourist areas) generally and have plenty of social problems. Another comment he makes is just a lie - Australians are NOT more comfortable in apartments, they are forced into apartments because the cost of actual freestanding homes are too expensive. In Sydney, the people living in apartments are foreign students, young people, and single people. Anyone with a family is in a townhouse, house, villa, or terrace. Even the host is lying, Asian immigrants who come to Sydney if they can afford it are getting freestanding homes and not living in apartments, they clearly are not wanting to replicate the apartment living they had in their countries of origin. I've lived in Madrid, another dense city in the mould of Paris and nobody loves living in an apartment, they all wished they had a freestanding home. This guy must have forgotten the pandemic, the only people at my workplace that were happy during lockdowns were the ones in freestanding homes. Of course though Bloomberg media is establishment with an agenda. I wish TH-cam hadn't recommended this propaganda.
if you look at google maps, on the western outskirts of Sydney, you'll evidently see the spawl of suburbs, and you'll notice just how many trees, nature and space is being replaced by seas of McMansions. The reality is, is that we're in a housing crisis and we can't keep sprawling out, but we need to keep building homes. You can have density while also having an abundance of nature and space, you just need the right planning. You don't sacrifice anything. Take any major city in the Netherlands, or Denmark, or Austria: they're green cities, (just like Sydney,) yet highly dense.
You are listing countries where the largest city in each of those countries is approx 1M. Try to find a city the size of Sydney or larger that gets to this utopia you describe. Good luck with that.
Depends what you define as quality of life as everyone needs/wants different things. For me growing up in the outer parts of a suburb in a single detached home...I hated the lawn maintenance, I hated being far from shops and public transport and being forced into car dependency, I didn't enjoy sports growing up so a backyard wasn't for me, I didn't enjoy having to maintain a larger space. So for me...the better quality of life is an apartment that is close to shops and public transport. As for my kids...I'm hoping to encourage them to appreciate the same...and we are also 2mins walk from our nearest park with a playground. Also...the more cars on the road...the more congested our roads are. Speak to anyone who lives in areas lacking train lines (Eastern suburbs, Northern Beaches etc...), traffic and car dependency, while not the worst...is getting pretty bad. We don't want American level car dependency.
Sydney does have a 2nd tier city being Parramatta. It’s going to be a hub for all transport connections. Plenty of green space and the biggest world leading medical facility in the southern hemisphere at Westmead merely a stones throw away via a big park.
SYD is very different from SIN. There are not much high-density living in SYD. And I'll bet a lot of SIN are jealous of the wide-open spaces around SYD. Not having to wait for immigration checks on a Sunday drive.
@@garyhenschke7330 😜 totalitarian sh1thole, sterile manufactured and without any fresh air due to over development and exhaust fumes killing the population on a daily basis.
I love that even mainstream business channels are starting to have real conversations about the future of our cities it gives me some hope that maybe we can do things better
I'm from Los Angeles, and I've visited Sydney countless times. I think Sydney is very well designed especially its transportation network when compared with ours. It's also very well connected between the transport types which is lacking in LA.
Sydney has improved this incredibly well it used to be very poor a lesson for los angles and future long term city planning.
And just like the USA, public transport planning is 💩 and gets more 💩 as the regions are poorer. People who need can't afford cars are left with poor public transport, if any at all.
Sadly, Los Angeles and the US in general is ran by car manufacturers and would be a challenge to change people's mindset, let alone build this infrastructure over roads.
I'm a Sydneysider that now lives in London. To me, all of Australia has never quite got public transport right. Our pubic transport systems are middling at best. To be fair, I do think our transport is better than many cities in the US, but worse than Asia and Europe. We're a sort of middle ground that always get's it half-right but never really with any enthusiasm or intensity.
I do think the metro is a game changer, and the light rail too. It's only in the last half-decade that light rail has really come online for Sydney, and the metro even more recently.
@@AndoCommando1000 Australia excels at half-arsed attempts then call it an achievement at international standards.
Finally, good luck to the wonderful Sydney 🇦🇺
WE MUST NEVER STOP THIS (WONDERFUL) PROCESS OF DENISIFIYING THROUGH TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS!!
Sydney must continue with metro lines all over the entire Sydney basin. Build up and clear parkway connections to allow green space to offset the increased density and allow people to move easily.
Then intercity trains with business class seats. Build, build, build! Never stop.
This is the key to how cities like Shanghai and Singapore became transit powerhouses - they never stopped building, opening, and expanding new lines.
@@ianhomerpura8937 yep, loved living in SG. Never needed a car. And despite having a higher population density, it actually felt more spacious and definitely more green.
And/or enhance the suburban rail network which is already extensive, where that is appropriate. It shouldn't be neglected.
Previously, there were only two options. A single-family home with plenty of space but far from the services of the center or an apartment in the center with less space. The subway opens up a third option: living far away with a larger house but with a means of transportation that brings you very quickly to the center. Options, options, options, that is exactly what we need.
The problem with apartment living is not that people only want a yard and a picket fence, it’s the strata law that restricts apartment living. If the law makes it easier for people to live in apartments then people won’t mind it as much if the price is right
Also it’s useful if they are built so they are habitable unlike the Mascot catastrophe or Opal tower
Agreed. Living in Asia in different cities, I’ve experienced top notch and basic condo living which provides services that no Australian strata management could hold a candle too. A deep focus on reforming strata management is vital in Aus.
@@decepticons_destroy can you elaborate on the strata law?
@@ianhomerpura8937 until 2021, by-law, landlords don’t need to give you a reason to not allow pets. From my experience, the minute you state that you have a dog, my application would be rejected immediately. That’s the main one for me but there are many other strata rules like you can’t install an aircon without strata approval, you can’t install just any balcony sliding door because it’s considered an exterior facade impacting all the other units, you can’t request for big items pickup anytime as it needs to be done by strata and only when there’s enough items to be collected, you can’t have night parties after 10pm because of noise, you can’t wash your car on common driveways even though the building doesn’t provide one. There’s many more but these are just the few that put you off living in apartments. But my main gripe is the dog one.
@@leroyybrown Opal towers was rectified over 4 years ago without fuss, Mascot towers is a different story de,olition is the rectification as it's such a mess.
Sydney CBD does have an excellent light rail system that runs straight thru the guts. It’s now got a European vibe.
It needs more light rail lines. Many people think the light rail was a waste of money compared to the metro, but that misses the point. Light rail and metro have different functions and serve different purposes. Light rail is for inner city and inner suburban high and medium density areas equivalent to bus trips at short, close intervals. Metro is for high capacity, high speed suburb to suburb travel at medium-distances. They complement (not compete) with eachother for different travel reasons and different types of journeys.
Sydney needs more light rail AND more metro, not one or the other.
@@AndoCommando1000We absolutely need both more light rail and more Metro lines. But honestly, the only people who thought the metro line was a “waste of money” are people that don’t have to commute very far and rarely go to the city.
Next route, the Northern Beaches.
Wait...for...the...NIMBY.
I think 9 news hinted a line that will connect the NB -> CBD -> Eastern suburbs in a report last week.
Honestly I wouldn't worry about NIMBYS anymore at this stage...I think there is a majority of people there fed up with congestion.
@@kennylee8936
Me?
I guess they can use their EVs to get to the CBD...LOL.
BTW is the Spit-Bridge still operating?
@@RUHappyATM There will always be the ignorant minority that still drive.
Yes...I'm surprised that the B-Line gets praised. I reckon users sugarcoat it and deny how actually shit public transport is in the Beaches.
@@kennylee8936 NIMBYs days are numbered. I think with the Sydney metro line opening and the extension to Bankstown next year, it will add pressure to more areas of the Sydney becoming more receptive to seeing this in their part of Sydney. West Sydney metro and the new Airport metro to St Mary's will also show how transformative this infrastructure is.
By the decade there will be 2 metro lines (Airport and Sydney Metro) with a third (West Metro) around the corner. It is also rumoured that West Metro will continue past Hunter St in future with an East Sydney extension to Randwick, Maroubra to La Perouse line.
@@RUHappyATM yes, and the road to the city from the Northern beaches is a graveyard in the morning. Essentially impossible to drive.
glad we trying to address city urban planning issues
There is an error at 3:41. This newly opened section was only Sydney Metro City. Sydney Metro South West is currently under construction and will open in 2025. Therefore, there are three lines under construction: Metro South West, Metro West and Metro Western Sydney Airport.
I would admit when I visited Sydney many years ago I was surprised how bland and soulless the CBD was, this is typical of a car dependent city where the centre of the city will be designated a CBD, so full of corporate office towers and little else, Auckland where I'm from also suffers from this.
Unfortunately Auckland is even more car dependent then Sydney, we tend to only build more roading and if we are lucky we might get a bus lane.
Regarding apartment living including walk-ups and townhouses, I think the main problem is the body corporate fees, and not having any land title, this puts many off.
Depends how long ago you visited. If it was 2015-2019? 100% agree.
But anywhere before 2012, the city was pretty great.
0:42 “The first section opened in 2019 and runs through North Sydney”
Not quite, it comes from the North West sydney and runs through finishing at Chatswood.
The new extension that just opened us the one was runs through North Sydney, with Victoria Cross acting as the new station in North Sydney.
I think they meant the direction “north” as opposed to the suburb North Sydney.
@@kismetau I thought the same, but then you’d think they would say North West, not North.
Regardless it’s a bit confusing
Metropolis of three cities? The vision is pretty clear
We are a product of our environment, so city planning is very important indeed.
Well done Sydney. I wrote the only known song celebrating the 2nd Harbour crossing on my channel. Melbourne is a shambles and desperately needs a airport rail connection.
Melbournian here aswell. Though currently living in Sydney for a few years. There is a big difference in collective attitude towards public transport between the two cities. Loudly opposing progressive infrastructure ideas just seems to be the cool thing to do down there. And the local Melbourne media is also largely to blame. As flawed as it might be in places, the SRL is a terrific concept. Just about every single week in the Melbourne media, there's at least one negative hit piece written up about the SRL. And often written by the same dozen-odd loser opinion columnists over and over again. The sad reality is that a lot of people are dumb, and believe whatever the media feeds them. I no longer research up the SRL on Google Search because I know it's going to be nothing but negativity.
@@eddielong8663 Im hearing you in regards to the media. I think it's an age demographic thing. Print media is dying along with the ink fingered readers.
Melbournes concept is brilliant. Making it happen and finding the funds is another question, In saying that? You don't want a foreign contractor with the lowest bid to build it. You get what you pay for. Another big difference between the cities who is running the show. Sydney trains has the state gov at the helm with a bit of private partnership. Vic contracted out a lot of services in the 1980s. In the UK, they regret using private operators as quality of services has declined, lines have closed and fare.prices have soared.
Got to ask another question? How is it that Vic don't have ATM card tap and go? Is that in the to hard basket?
@DorkBoy77
I thought they were introducing the ATM card thing at some stage. Delayed, I know, but I think it's coming . Hopefully before I return anyway.
Honestly, I don't know much about the political side of things. And how much projects are government funded or privately funded. All I know is that State Labor and State Liberal hate eachother in Victoria. As soon as Andrews got in back in 2014, Labor tore up Liberal's East West Link project. Now, as soon as Liberal are back in, they are promising to do the same thing with the Suburban Rail Loop out of vengeful spite. Which is why the State goes nowhere. I hate both parties.
@@eddielong8663 Exactly, I love to go to Melbourne, but it seems every day there is something in the news about a protest here, and a protest there, no wonder nothing gets done down there, I like pretty much all Sydney siders are very happy with the expansion of public transport with metro / light rail, we desperately needed is as expanding the road network is not the answer, the light rail through the CBD has transformed the streets it's on, all they need to do is redirect more traffic away from the CBD and have more pedestrian / light rail only streets to continue with transforming the city.
@@eddielong8663 To be fair, Sydney Metro also received a great deal of criticism similar to what SRL is receiving now. Once the infrastructure is built though, I assume Melbourne's attitude would start to shift like Sydney has. NSW is going all in and it'll be great to see the same in VIC if the Metro tunnel is a success.
Meantime Melbourne can’t build an airport rail line.
Funny. I just wrote a song about that on my channel. 😂
@@DorkBoy77 oh I look forward to hearing it. 🙏
Brisbane is even worse, horrible for a city about to host the Olympics in 2032.
@@ianhomerpura8937 at least Brisbane has an airport rail link.
@@JimmiAlli they need more rail lines, and yet they're wasting their money on underground bus lines, like why
In addition to the escalators, they could have ziplines and slides for people in a hurry. 😃
That would be so cool.
😂 I like the new metro section but it does take a while to get down and up from the platforms. The trains are much more convenient in this respect.
@@kismetau I was thinking about this. The Metro is more frequent and faster, but particularly in the CBD, you would have to factor in station access times, inside and outside, in deciding which service to use, or where to interchange. Central's metro lifts, at least, are very fast, much faster, if less spectacular, then the escalators.
You have to give Phillip credit for answering these unresearched unprofessional questions. The economy is the economy with its up and downs comparing how a city moves it people as efficiency and effectively as possible. Agree London / Toronto has got its city right. Sydney and Melbourne need to change the adoption of transportation.
Toronto? Sydney's transport is far superior..
14 billion sounds like a lot, but considering its aimed at moving workers (and guests) around the city without cramming them onto the roads its not a bad deal, it becomes an absolute bargaan when you compare it to rubbish money sinks like the billions they spent on stadiums
I would like to see a Sydney Metro North East Line aka Northern Beaches with an extension to places beyond such as Gosford, Erina etc… and stops at places like Manly, Brookvale/Warringah Mall, Mono Vale etc…
forgot Singapore ... opening half a dozen stations every year, no low density housing. Australia is building underground railway to catch up and alleviate horrifying congestion and planning blunders and upgrading seriously outdated rail systems.
Tokyo, Singapore, or any Chinese major city does public transit better than the western world. But they are not western, so they don't get a mention.
Bloomberg Television, great content
This is trash. The so called expert was lying through his teeth.
Getting some major Elizabeth Line vibes from the station design!
He grew up in Perth! 😊 Urban planning is needed with a 30 year vision at least! Because it feels like planning is 10 years behind population growth, in Perth!
Promote walking instead of driving. Sydney has some of it but nowhere near a city like Paris!
Why talking about London and Toronto? we already have successful country with Excellent public transport if not the best in our neighbor country in fact you can see in the chart... you have special allergy with Asian city?
He was talking about cities transitioning from low to high density not transport. Asian cities are super high density already so does not apply to that specific question.
@@timtam53191 how does NYC fit into this? Ignored Asian cities because they are not western. For example, Tokyo is made of multiple centers and low-density areas in between.
@@KaushalyaMadhawa NYC has no driverless metro. I would say NYC is overrated and behind the times
Aye re Transit oriented Development, but they seem obsessed with Metro specifically. The suburban rail network can ALSO support TOD, but you'd think only the Metro existed to listen to this (presumably because they're interviewing a Metro person). Sydney's su8rburban rail system is great and needs attention too.
ausze newze good for BRICS 👍
Great idea but this high density is not the way to go. Try getting in and out of Tallawong Station. Ridiculous. That should have joined the Richmond Train line as Tallawong is in the middle of nowhere and parking is a joke.
Parking shouldn't be an issue if more people take public transport...if anything there should be more bus services getting people to the metro station from their homes. If more people take public transport, there will be less cars...therefore increasing reliability of buses.
@@kennylee8936 agree and Richmond train line is not the priority it is extending the metro to connect st Mary’s and Tallawong and connecting the western Sydney airport to the northwest netro
@@gorgu08 100%, and we should worry first about connecting the airport to Liverpool, Glenfield, and Campbelltown...the st Mary's airport line should've been done last.
@@gorgu08 Extending it to Schofields WOULD be important to people living in the outer North West, and in any case it would be a first stage in extending it to St Marys and the WSA Metro and Western line. Unfortunately, they decided to run the WSA Metro on a different voltage(!) and train configuration, so they cannot be completely linked unless they do something like dual-voltage trains, and I don't know what else. But they could have an interchange somewhere.
@@mt-mg7tt yes would probs be a touch and leave service a bit like they did with the northwest metro and the T1 in Chatswood cross the platform and continue your journey :-)
They build these in parallel to existing heavy rail meaning this duplication makes the existing heavy rail redundant! What a waste of money. There are parts of Sydney that don't have either!
I tried the new train once. For a single use just one stop it is passable but I feel long term use over several stops it will be lacking in the comfort stakes. Then what do you expect for something design overseas for a different cliental . The intention was good but the design and manufacturing should have been done here by Australians. Australian designs may not have the cosmetic appearance of overseas designs ,but Australian design and manufacture surpasses all long time usage , comforts and reliability. That is fact not penny pinching thinking.
I agree with this, comfort on the metro is definitely a criticism Metro fanboys have a hard time accepting. A layout similar to Perth's suburban trains would've been better.
@@ronvorbach1464 not sure what you mean! I found it really comfortable and I was so pleased to see wheelchair users and people with prams sail on to the metro with no trouble at all.
@@mgp1203 I would rather have the Sydney Metro than what a lot of Melbourne's West have to put up with. Lumbering DMU's with poor frequencies.
I’m a bit disappointed with the modest buildings above Martin Pl and Gadigal stations. In HK they have skyscrapers above the MRT stations like ICC that has a Ritz-Carlton hotel on the top floors. Downtown Sydney needs more mixed use buildings and above the Metro stations is the ideal place.
As a person who lives in Sydney, the metro is a failure. It covers such a tiny part of Sydney, all this unnecessary positive coverage is overblown.
As a Sydneysider it's a massive success. Of course, it's only one line, but it is intended to be the first of many new lines to be built. Therefore, it's working exactly as intended (even better) and is transformative. It has added a high capacity, high speed rail link to several far-flung suburbs that previously had zero rail connections, it's reduced travel times to other rail-based areas by a third or more, and it's connected several places that were previously NOT directly connected, and it's added a brand new harbour crossing connection - all while boosting capacity, shortening distances and adding more optoins.
It's wonderful.
A world class city needs world class public transport
Sydney has stepped into the 21st Century.
The legacy Sydney electric suburban service is a joke.
The electric trains are painfully slow and often you feel is quicker to walk.
Why this is I have no idea.
London has an all electric suburn heavy rail network and it is way quicker than Sydney.
We need more metros, the Tallawong to Sydenham metro is world class.
More please.
I don't think they are that slow. the inner-suburban trains have to stop at a lot of stations. I do think the suburban rail network (and interurban!) need some love, and shouldn't become the poor relation of the Metro.
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Phil would never live in a densified suburb around a Metro station.
I actually think he would. He is not a normal person. I don't want Sydney to be like other cities, it's great how it is.
@@FlamencoOz No he wouldn't. He want's and ants' nest city while he continues to live in a leafy suburb with his cars.
Phil is a top 5% earner, someone has to live in the houses, there just shouldn't be so many houses and far less sprawl.
Phil is do as he say, not as he does.
What is wrong with densified suburbs though?
Poor reporting.
i still don't understand why it doubles the lines, i.e. there are existing train lines parallel to the metro.
also, there are no enough train lines in the west side of sydney remote areas. property price along the new metro is sky high already. i mean adding new line will increase existing property price and not resolve the lack of property supple.
sure, high property price will give more revenue to the goverment.
The whole point of the metro is to parallel the existing rail lines, it's too relieve congestion and overcrowding on the trains. You forget these were planned before COVID, and ridership was increasing at an alarming rate.
This is so random, Sydney seems to have gone on a massive media spree about the opening of the new section of the metro, its really quite bizarre. I've seen numerous paid articles on Insta, youtube, all the major newspapers etc.
@@Nick-mt4wk reckon ur replying to the wrong commen buddy
Melbournians are sour
How is that an issue? Sydney has a far better attitude towards public transport and TOD than any other Aus city, and good press helps.
Why not connect hunter still station with Martin place station? Will be a waste if there is no transit...
it is connected, via an underground pedestrian tunnel.
They will, once the line is open. Already baked in
You can go from the Metro platforms to the Martin place Sydney Trains platforms without having to tap off. So I wold call that connected. You will have to tap off to walk to Hunter St Station (it isn't far), and you will also be able to walk through to Wynyard Station.
@@daveg2104 not efficient enough, not optimized
@@MrZerg0403 If you want to go to Wynyard from the northwest, change at Chatswood. From the south, change at Central. Gadigal station was deliberately built with no direct underground pedestrian connection to Town Hall, so it would not feed more passengers into an already very busy station. If you are in the City for business or pleasure, choose which option serves you best. So, yes, there is limited connectivity. But that is mostly by design. And as I said, there will be pedestrian connectivity between Martin Place, Hunter St and Wynyard.
Australia is special because it doesn’t have the urban density of a soulless city like Shanghai and New York
Not really, when there are cities that are just as sprawling, like Dallas and Denver
New York and Shanghai are souless?? How? They’re the most vibrant cities in the world! People are out and about enjoying all that has to offer. What makes a dying city is by not accomodating people
Crazy take calling cities like Shanghai and New York soulless. You should see Sydney after 5pm, that'll show you soulless. Unchecked suburban sprawl kills cities. You know why cities in Europe get so many tourists? Because they have dense walkable neighbourhoods.
@@mitchellattwood yep they are cold, heartless and have a dead soul. Wouldn’t live in either if I got paid to do so.
Apartments are ok but not for families where the kids are highly physically active and really do need a yard to play in . More common area is needed where these unit blocks are dominating the skyline. Not all children are studious and want to sit still in 4 walls and look at computer screens. Too unhealthy
We all had our experiences growing up so each to their own is fine. But have you considered the other perspective... kids who grew up with big backyards in low density areas with no transport rely on their "soccer mums" to drive them everywhere, they got no independence without their parents. That's why they sit at home all day in front of the computer.
Compare that to the Netherlands where kids ride their bikes everywhere, or Japan where they take transport solo at primary school ages. No parent shuttle needed, freedom to travel the city with their same age mates. Kids in low density suburbia are essentially under house arrest till the day they get their drivers licence.
You know that kids can go outside? Anyways people should be able to choose what they build.
I grew up in Hong Kong and we're the poster boy of ultra-urbanisation. Cars are the problem - not apartments.
Until schoolwork got too busy for us at 7 years old (an issue in its own right), we played and biked on a 3-lane street which ran through the middle of our apartment complex. We felt safe doing that because there were heavy bollards secured with padlocks and chains that cordoned off cars and made us feel safe.
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A country as big as Australia don’t need high density cities tbh… we need high speed rails. Sydney is becoming like Singapore which we really don’t need to live this cramped.
High Speed Rail isn't justified by low density. You need high density to have better public transport.
Everyone is sick of waiting for these trains in the West and South West. Those Bus train replacements now since 2019 can only be referred to as Vomit Comets. Fed up.
I don't want Sydney to become a New York or Paris. What makes Sydney special is it's abundance of nature and space. The moment we become a super dense city that all goes. This expert probably lived in a nice part of New York... reality is New York and Paris are actually quite ugly (outside of the tourist areas) generally and have plenty of social problems. Another comment he makes is just a lie - Australians are NOT more comfortable in apartments, they are forced into apartments because the cost of actual freestanding homes are too expensive. In Sydney, the people living in apartments are foreign students, young people, and single people. Anyone with a family is in a townhouse, house, villa, or terrace. Even the host is lying, Asian immigrants who come to Sydney if they can afford it are getting freestanding homes and not living in apartments, they clearly are not wanting to replicate the apartment living they had in their countries of origin. I've lived in Madrid, another dense city in the mould of Paris and nobody loves living in an apartment, they all wished they had a freestanding home. This guy must have forgotten the pandemic, the only people at my workplace that were happy during lockdowns were the ones in freestanding homes. Of course though Bloomberg media is establishment with an agenda. I wish TH-cam hadn't recommended this propaganda.
Move to Adelaide
@@Soundmaster91 I've heard good things but I have too many things tying me to Sydney - Family, friends, network. Plus, it is a great city.
if you look at google maps, on the western outskirts of Sydney, you'll evidently see the spawl of suburbs, and you'll notice just how many trees, nature and space is being replaced by seas of McMansions. The reality is, is that we're in a housing crisis and we can't keep sprawling out, but we need to keep building homes. You can have density while also having an abundance of nature and space, you just need the right planning. You don't sacrifice anything. Take any major city in the Netherlands, or Denmark, or Austria: they're green cities, (just like Sydney,) yet highly dense.
You are listing countries where the largest city in each of those countries is approx 1M. Try to find a city the size of Sydney or larger that gets to this utopia you describe. Good luck with that.
High density living is much better for the environment than urban sprawl. High density leaves more space for nature
They should’ve built houses
Take your urban sprawl ideas to America
Maybe stop foreign ownership and corrupt politicians
I disagree. It's not car's issue, it the issue with single city centre. High density only provides low quality of life and a concrete jungle.
I would consider Europe medium density, high should be like cities in Asia or New York style. @kingkiwikong
You are correct. Sydney's city centre is not in the centre of the city which makes everyone commute in the same direction.
Depends what you define as quality of life as everyone needs/wants different things.
For me growing up in the outer parts of a suburb in a single detached home...I hated the lawn maintenance, I hated being far from shops and public transport and being forced into car dependency, I didn't enjoy sports growing up so a backyard wasn't for me, I didn't enjoy having to maintain a larger space.
So for me...the better quality of life is an apartment that is close to shops and public transport. As for my kids...I'm hoping to encourage them to appreciate the same...and we are also 2mins walk from our nearest park with a playground.
Also...the more cars on the road...the more congested our roads are. Speak to anyone who lives in areas lacking train lines (Eastern suburbs, Northern Beaches etc...), traffic and car dependency, while not the worst...is getting pretty bad. We don't want American level car dependency.
Wait until they mandate no ICE vehicles.
Wonder what strata will say about EV charging in the basement car spaces.
Sydney does have a 2nd tier city being Parramatta. It’s going to be a hub for all transport connections. Plenty of green space and the biggest world leading medical facility in the southern hemisphere at Westmead merely a stones throw away via a big park.
shanghai 2014 >>>>>>> sydney 2024
Good, stay in Shanghai.
wow welcome sydney to singapore in 2010
SYD is very different from SIN.
There are not much high-density living in SYD.
And I'll bet a lot of SIN are jealous of the wide-open spaces around SYD.
Not having to wait for immigration checks on a Sunday drive.
You compare a tiny island with Sydney
@@RUHappyATM Singapore has plenty of open spaces for people to enjoy without a car.
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LOL.
You should try Slip, Slop, Slap.
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72,000 peak traffic. Seems like a waste of money.
@@tylert9875 Did you expect 1 million?
That's approximately 72,000 vehicles off the road ... and that's just the beginning, more people can and will ride the metro in future
@@seanelias6478 numbers is too low historically to make the project financially viable. Let's hope they keep the prices low.
That's about 1200 people per train.
moves more people than any highway ever. for the same price
You want to see a global city go to SHANGHAI CHINA
@@garyhenschke7330 been there, sterile smog filled sh1thole
Yes, go to Shanghai and enjoy.
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Yes what a beautiful exciting city and beautiful country and SAFE
@@garyhenschke7330 😜 totalitarian sh1thole, sterile manufactured and without any fresh air due to over development and exhaust fumes killing the population on a daily basis.
@@garyhenschke7330
Shanghai is soulless