Inside the engineering megaproject that went horribly wrong | Four Corners

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  • Australia’s Snowy 2.0 was sold as a nation-building megaproject for a low-carbon future - and was meant to be feeding power into the grid by the end of 2024.
    Instead, the pumped hydro project, which was once estimated to cost $2 billion, is four years behind schedule and now forecast to hit $12 billion.
    In this documentary, Four Corners reveals the inside story of Snowy 2.0 and how it all went so horribly wrong.
    Reporter Angus Grigg challenges its founding champion, former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, who says as much as $2 billion of the cost blow out can be traced back to a massive tunnel boring machine called Florence.
    Florence is currently stuck.
    Read more about this story here: www.abc.net.au/news/102995568
    This episode was originally broadcast as ‘Tunnel Vision’ on 23 October 2023 on ABC TV and ABC iview.
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  • @iceman4660
    @iceman4660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +737

    Politician becomes engineering guru after reading a articles. What could go wrong?

  • @Enonymouse_
    @Enonymouse_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +574

    "It may affect the contractors reputation" It damn well should affect them, that work is dangerous but worker safety is a must!

  • @philhogan5623
    @philhogan5623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +595

    I can't think of a single infrastructure project that DIDN'T go way over budget.
    It doesn't help that contractors immediately bump up their prices as soon as they see the words 'government project'.

  • @kirkjohnson6638
    @kirkjohnson6638 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +294

    So, it's not a $2 billion mistake, it's a $12 billion mistake and that is if they don't overrun their current projections which is very dubious.

  • @prizecowproductions
    @prizecowproductions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    Not in my back yard always seems the response to any proposed infrastructure project. But with that said fair compensation should always be on offer.

  • @dedrakuhn6103
    @dedrakuhn6103 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Skip the video to 22.20 minutes in to begin watching before starting at the beginning of the video. Whoever choose the order of events should have put the quick overview of this project first

  • @linoiovenitti7207
    @linoiovenitti7207 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    " I was wrong ", now there is a comment that you will never hear a politician say.

  • @nedenede
    @nedenede 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    Mismanagement of public funds in the billions. Why isn't a public inquiry called and pple held accountable? The public needs to know.

  • @mickking5913
    @mickking5913 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    It seems that florence shouldn't have been used until they were deeper and in the hard rock.The company in charge of the tunnelling should have known this so therefore they should pay all the extra costs not us the taxpayers.

  • @philanderson2220
    @philanderson2220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    I'm learning as i go, he's a funny bastard 🤣

  • @TheFrogga69
    @TheFrogga69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

    People can’t pick a flower in a national park but these guys can trash it.

  • @leskobrandon691
    @leskobrandon691 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +283

    This has $100 billion written all over it by the time they get this done. Isn't one of the reasons you release the names of companies with safety violations is to affect their reputation? Unbelievable

  • @scottgordon1781
    @scottgordon1781 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Oh crap , they tunneled ahead and ignored it :-)
    They knew it was soft !

  • @trojanhatchet8204
    @trojanhatchet8204 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    They cheaped out on geological studies ?

  • @annaclarke7643
    @annaclarke7643 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    There’s small mistakes and then there’s HUGE mistakes that we all pay for. Promising outcomes seems to be the Australian infliction.

  • @lours6993
    @lours6993 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    How painful to have to hear Scomo's fake blokey accent again.

  • @marklock1238
    @marklock1238 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    Turnbull’s involvement would explain the failure. Just like his NBN fiasco.

  • @user-uk8qt9zl6k
    @user-uk8qt9zl6k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Looks like a few people did alright off it...

  • @christophero1969
    @christophero1969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    This is comparable to watching children playing in a sandbox and discovering the different properties of wet-sand vs. dry-sand. The public is being taken for a ride, in my opinion.

  • @oscarpadron6514
    @oscarpadron6514 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Follow the money; it is always about the money.

  • @captainpoppleton
    @captainpoppleton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    We recently all learnt about ocean depth pressure. Next subject is slurry.

  • @Anamnesia
    @Anamnesia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Hold on... Wait a minute... Is this *_Four Corners_* or is it *_UTOPIA_* ???

  • @bobbyjohn2768
    @bobbyjohn2768 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Anyone old enough or paying enough attention should see the pattern here. :)

  • @paulchasteauneuf2098
    @paulchasteauneuf2098 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    As my dad used to say, poor planning produces piss poor performance. Thanks Turdball

    • @AlexBint
      @AlexBint 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Prior planning prevents piss poor performance

    • @jonramsey6348
      @jonramsey6348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I remember this old electrician used to tell me “ Proper preparation prevents piss poor performance “

    • @rwo5402
      @rwo5402 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      12 Billion is small change compared to the nuclear subs or what is spent on public transport in Sydney and Victoria. Although it is annoying, in the long term it is a worthwhile investment. As far as bad decisions go let's not forget the 5 billion Scomo paid to France to get out of the sub contract and we didn't get anything for that.,

  • @lukenovotny5638
    @lukenovotny5638 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Turnbull strikes again.

  • @peterjones9732
    @peterjones9732 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    Love the comment about battery development and storage having less environmental impact, maybe on his land but not the environment or the poor people who mine the resources to make them.

    • @harrygroundwater2590
      @harrygroundwater2590 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      We need hydro and batteries

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      There’s never a free lunch. Somewhere someone else has to pay for it.

  • @travishaines7410
    @travishaines7410 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Thanks for my retirement job 😂, I'll be here till the end😂😂

  • @TheGronk
    @TheGronk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    If it started with a politician it was doomed from the start. If it started with a politician like Malcom Turnbull, we were all doomed from the start

  • @-JonnyBoy-
    @-JonnyBoy- 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    "I'm learning as I go" is not what you want to hear from an "Expert"

    • @seventyfive4899
      @seventyfive4899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Exactly. I could've done this dude's job for half the salary and still learnt as I went. I coulda saved the government some cash.

    • @makego
      @makego 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      I'm an engineer. This is the way every bespoke engineering project works. We marshall all the knowledge we have about the various domains involved, but there are always novel circumstances and constraints, and constant learning is required.

  • @DoubtingThomas333
    @DoubtingThomas333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    Don't people realise this is how construction companies work? It doesnt matter what kind and who they are... this is par the course for big construction gigs.

  • @RedpointFive
    @RedpointFive 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Curious as to why the tunnels must be under ground rather than on top of the ground?
    2nd question is Snowy 1.0 still making power while this project is underway?
    Looks like they could have had a nuclear power plant for about the same amount of money, and that actually makes power instead of simply being a battery.

  • @skin2117
    @skin2117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    Going 6 times over budget seems to be acceptable but running power lines under ground ruled out as to expensive is just double talk. You're already 6 times over budget. Run the lines under ground and all are happy

  • @trj1442
    @trj1442 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Utopia in real life.

  • @actualfacts1055
    @actualfacts1055 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The project should have been cancelled after the geology assessment was done.

  • @ybet1000
    @ybet1000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    6 times the budget.. someone is taking the piss

  • @zerkfiter
    @zerkfiter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Was she amazing or what?The nice farm lady with cane in one hand and digging tool in other.😊

  • @geraldhagen2989
    @geraldhagen2989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    This is an old and true statement; if you want a project screwed up, involve the government.

  • @criticaluplink
    @criticaluplink 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    When you call the project as a scheme, there you have it.

  • @davidlock3695
    @davidlock3695 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Surprise surprise the ABC didn’t interview the current Labor government and ask them why they haven’t cancelled this renewable energy disaster before we waste more billions!

  • @wheelitzr2
    @wheelitzr2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    This doesn't sound any different from any other large infrastructure project.

  • @matthewsheeran
    @matthewsheeran 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Love the double entendre: "Tunnel Vision". I'll say! ABC journalism at its best and keeping the public abreast.

  • @matthoskin3572
    @matthoskin3572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    Turnbull was only concerned about ensuring his stock portfolio kept getting healthier........what a shill. Nice one captain NBN.

  • @kevinsteele2773
    @kevinsteele2773 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Show me a government project that hasn’t gone over budget or over time

  • @emanuel290
    @emanuel290 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    What's an extra 10 bil between friends 😅😅

  • @Kurt_Philanderer
    @Kurt_Philanderer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    It would have been humiliating for Malcolm Turnbull and the Liberal Party if the project had been found to be unfeasible. Political pressure drove Florence into the mud, and she's taking our money and worker safety down with it.

  • @user-fl2wn5zr5z
    @user-fl2wn5zr5z 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    didn't they check the land composition before drilling

  • @kylesmith8128
    @kylesmith8128 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Sounds like a failure of planning and surveying rather than problem of contractors....

  • @philscott7949
    @philscott7949 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That's not a sink hole. Look at what happened in Lane Cove. Every concrete truck in Sydney filling it for 2 days. Now that was a sink hole.

  • @chrisblue46
    @chrisblue46 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Large scale batteries, ???? what does he think they're made of, and how they were made????

  • @squeakyrabbit
    @squeakyrabbit 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    "We've learned a lot"
    "We've learned a few things"
    -Dennis Barnes

  • @irellevant906
    @irellevant906 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +240

    Better us blowing out a renewable energy project to 12 Billion than buying a war submarine for 368 Billion.

  • @FreeAsABirdSydneyAustralia
    @FreeAsABirdSydneyAustralia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Nice how they spend taxpayers money like it’s there own bottomless wallet

  • @outwestcreatives127
    @outwestcreatives127 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I’m sad, Florence is all alone and has no friends 😥 #saveflorencethetbm

  • @peteypops
    @peteypops 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    It would be nice to watch a documentary without the unnecessary music mush.

  • @sundance2005
    @sundance2005 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    5:39, when have you EVER heard a CEO here in the US say those words, I can't remember that I have.

  • @kwhblade
    @kwhblade 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    One has to wonder who benefits from these government infrastructure projects with their massive cost overruns its surely not the tax payer..
    Is it a lack of educated workforce or private corporation greed?
    If this wasn't a government backed project you can bet your life the project team would've been sacked for cost overruns and not hitting milestones like with any semi competent organisation in the modern world..

  • @MrFiftymill
    @MrFiftymill 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The first thing they say. I’m proud.

  • @PunsaraSagarage
    @PunsaraSagarage 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This is why your cost of living is high. Government taxing the sh!t out of people to cover these money black holes.

  • @dimensionaltravelerchanga1072
    @dimensionaltravelerchanga1072 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I wish these big dreamers good luck.

  • @kevwills858
    @kevwills858 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    They should have a statue of Saint Leprechaun ... the St of Good Luck ☘

  • @adamjones4951
    @adamjones4951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    "27km of tunnels can never stack up economically or technically "
    Man doesn't know about the 50km channel tunnel

  • @sutherlandA1
    @sutherlandA1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yet the original snowy mountains scheme was finished early AND under budget

  • @michaeljohn7398
    @michaeljohn7398 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A very interesting and thought provocing documentary.

  • @Mark-ok8ss
    @Mark-ok8ss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Just build it and once it’s done. Nobody will remember the cost…. Remember the Sydney Opera House

  • @hvacdesignsolutions
    @hvacdesignsolutions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Fail to plan, plan to fail.

  • @dr3857
    @dr3857 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    How goods butter chicken?!?!! Scotty, such a man of the people....

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    It seems that the tunnel machine is not travelling deep enough. Having a tunell barely below the surface is a mistake. Seismic testing along the route should have picked this up. Backing up the machine is a huge problem in itself. Perhaps digging out the sink hole, fortifying it, and steering downwards may be the only solution. At least the sink hold has road access. Perhaps calling quits is the best option.

  • @skippydeenice
    @skippydeenice 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    my drunk mistakes are not as expensive

  • @lillibitjohnson7293
    @lillibitjohnson7293 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    It will get built and work eventually. Like every other huge nation building project we’ve had.

  • @tomfuelery2905
    @tomfuelery2905 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's really easy to spend other people's money.
    Six times over budget?
    Oops. Oh well.

  • @jazzeejax5816
    @jazzeejax5816 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Underground power through farm land is insanely expensive not only to install but maintain, small price to pay

  • @estewartbeveridge3183
    @estewartbeveridge3183 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Nuclear. Nuclear. Nuclear. Nuclear.
    Get the picture?

    • @grasonicus
      @grasonicus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Absolutely. These youngsters can learn from us oldies. But they won't. They know better.

  • @martinwyke
    @martinwyke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The contractors should be held to their original tender price and bear the cost of their mistakes.

    • @evil17
      @evil17 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That will never happen

  • @robertmiller2173
    @robertmiller2173 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Love Australia,,,,, Kiss Hug from New Zealand

  • @45Grace2009
    @45Grace2009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Save the plamet from being fried? Puhleez ... stop the nonsense.

  • @diGritz1
    @diGritz1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I'm pretty sure the first mistake was thinking any idea thought up at a pub...... shouldn't stay in the pub.
    Don't get me wrong, pubs are a great place to come with shi......I mean stuff. But it should stay there.

  • @amadablam8229
    @amadablam8229 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Interesting. Hadn’t heard about this before.

  • @josephnulley6808
    @josephnulley6808 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This will be a very expensive Never Ending Story ........

  • @MrFiftymill
    @MrFiftymill 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Just another 12bill

  • @user-td8op5hx6b
    @user-td8op5hx6b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Saving the planet " ! Yikes

  • @lawrenceleske3470
    @lawrenceleske3470 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If batteries were bought instead, how much more, or less, would they cost?

  • @180mph9
    @180mph9 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Energy transition 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Whosetheworst
    @Whosetheworst 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A truly monumental .... ..!

  • @epmediaproductions3459
    @epmediaproductions3459 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is like the TV Show Utopia. But it’s real! 🤦‍♂️

  • @beemerkon
    @beemerkon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Seems like people paying taxes got hood winked

  • @LifeOnHard898
    @LifeOnHard898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm just a simple man but 6x over budget in reality isn't too far off. Seems like everything cost 6x more than it did in 2019

  • @mobster6665
    @mobster6665 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Watching my four year old dig and play in the sandpit I wonder if he and his friends should be put in charge of this blunder. Some of the 12 billion will be tunnelled off to mates and grifters. It looks like St Barbara will be reporting to her boss with hopeless pleadings.

  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As much as this looks like a mess, in the future when we're using this power nobody is going to care that it ran over budget. Like, pick up an old newspaper and just read all the frothing at the mouth during every single large government project. Do any of you care? Nope.
    Not saying the stuff ups shouldn't be held to account, but what you going to do? Stop the whole project? Pfft.

  • @rogerterry5013
    @rogerterry5013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Once they are in for 2 billion they can't get out.

  • @AlJay0032
    @AlJay0032 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    So Australia is going to rescue the world now?

  • @kevwills858
    @kevwills858 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Turnbull ... say no more ...
    No risk(or brains in engineering) besides a public promotion ..

  • @hmao4466
    @hmao4466 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One of your best Turnbull...

  • @chazzcannon3614
    @chazzcannon3614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When politicians get to thinking, watch out.

  • @jameslaupan6499
    @jameslaupan6499 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Saint Barbara, the patron saint of tunneling. That ridiculous attribution pretty much sums it up.

  • @kenthoenen5484
    @kenthoenen5484 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Regardless of which side you're on, the risk taken is more of a gamble or role of the dice and clearly lost. There is a lack of accountability for poor decisions.

  • @yuglesstube
    @yuglesstube 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Batteries? Environmentally disastrous.

  • @kerryscott3287
    @kerryscott3287 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Learning on the go, no you need to know before you start and anticipate what is unknown!

  • @michaelgraham6035
    @michaelgraham6035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s like an episode of Utopia.

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hydro is excellent. Perhaps it can be fixed .

  • @anncodec
    @anncodec 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could be the plot of a sci fi action horror movie.