The Top Ten Vampires of Clan Ventrue

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  • A video on the Top Ten Vampires of Clan Ventrue, from the game, Vampire the Masquerade!
    The Ventrue are typically regarded as snobs, aristocrats, and the general authoritative figure for childish vampires to rebel against. But the Ventrue may be the Clan with the greatest respect for mortals out of all other Vampires. They do not respect mortals as individuals, since Ventrue can Dominate almost any mortal into a drooling vegetable, but they respect the power of what mortals can accomplish when united in common purpose and directed by a 'superior' visionary. In that vein, the Ventrue attain power not because they are the strongest, but because they are the best organizers.
    01:26 Artemis Orthia,The Blood-Goddess of Sparta
    08.04 Camilla, Prince of Rome
    17:34 Hardestadt, Founder of the Camarilla
    23:28 Mithras, The Eternal Prince of London
    33:38 Cretheus, Leader of the Inconnu
    39:18 Kyle Strathcona, Sabbat Cardinal of Canada
    44:44 Lucinde, Justicar of Clan Ventrue and Red Alastor
    48:15 Lodin, Prince of Chicago
    54:19 Louis Fortier, Anarch Baron of West Los Angeles
    1:00:31 Lady Anne Bowesley, Queen of London

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  • @elliotbishop231
    @elliotbishop231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Honorable mention: victor temple

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The Baron of the Valley.
      At least until the Camarilla gets around to sending a real Prince out to L.A.

    • @gallavanting2041
      @gallavanting2041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@lazarofstygia2241 I wouldn't sleep on Vannevar Thomas. If he finds his right mind again... that's a Ventrue to fear.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@gallavanting2041 Jochen van Nuys chased him out of San Francisco. Considering the fates of previous Princes of L.A., to be given rule of that city is just a death sentence by proxy.

    • @gaoth88
      @gaoth88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@lazarofstygia2241 "it has gotten us this far" -Baron Temple, 2019

    • @onemoregodrejected9369
      @onemoregodrejected9369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hell yeah XD

  • @gasmonkey1000
    @gasmonkey1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Mithras is the most badass in my opinion. Ripped apart a pack of werewolves after waking up, ruled Britain and let it into an empire (an empire which fell without his guiding hand). Peak example of what a Ventrue should be in my opinion.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      He also dictated terms to the Camarilla rather than the other way around.

    • @Nyrufa
      @Nyrufa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Don't forget that he intentionally let the empire collapse, just so he could rebuild it again. All because he got bored of how easy it was to rule everyone. Dude managed to climb his way to the top, then decided to start a new play through.

    • @theMyouknow
      @theMyouknow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Nyrufa Hey if you are a master of dominate, it IS easy to control everyone ofc it is booring when everyone is just doing your bidding without effort. But he took a snack to many and ate someone he should not have eaten, and now the Assamites are sitting on his soul.

    • @wolfsbanealphas617
      @wolfsbanealphas617 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lazarofstygia2241 and may have fought Horus and Helios

    • @alexandrucatalindragan6842
      @alexandrucatalindragan6842 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@theMyouknowno

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "The main problem most people need to understand is that the cause lay with either those who think they can rule, who are so self-convinced they can rule or the fact that they have a strong bloodline that proves their so-called right to rule and when that happens it just makes one big ass mess of clusterfuck, what then happens afterwards it's usually down to people like me, who have to clean it up and sometimes, if not always that involves fixing the problem but removing the source cause of it all, Arcan's Razor, but if it works for Caine, why not me" - Alexandar Becheanu, Clan Ventrue, private contractor enforcer

  • @ryanrizzo4869
    @ryanrizzo4869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Wait...Al Capone was a Ventrue?? That's awesome!

    • @jacobmoorman6323
      @jacobmoorman6323 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh it gets more interesting. Robin Hood was a Brujah, Louis Pasteur used his process on vitae and became a Caitiff, Lazar has mentioned Helen of Troy and Menele.

    • @ryanrizzo4869
      @ryanrizzo4869 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jacobmoorman6323 That's pretty dope!

  • @potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420
    @potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I played Larp for years and hardly ever saw an actual Ventrue played. We had so many players from different clans pretending to be Ventrue that the running joke was clan Ventrue didn't really exist, it was an elaborate Malkavian prank and they're still laughing their asses off at a bunch of vampires all lying to each other about being part of a Clan that doesn't exist.🤣

    • @count4045
      @count4045 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Damn that's actually hilarious. Definitely a prank that malkavians could pull off xD

  • @blobertasbleach4545
    @blobertasbleach4545 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    really surprised you didn't include some other notable Ventrue methusalehs such as Alexander of Paris or Antonius the Gaul, but really glad you included Mithras.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There were too many to pick from and information on Alexander and Antonius was thin by comparison.
      Editorial fiat.

  • @commanderdanielcousland9981
    @commanderdanielcousland9981 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Where is Alexander prince of Paris, Destroyer of Carthage, master of art and beauty.

  • @qwizzler
    @qwizzler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Dude these videos are great. I don't play but your research and reading makes for a great listen.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks. I'm glad there is an audience for long lore vids.

  • @ironreed2654
    @ironreed2654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe silly, but I would like to hear more about the non vampire magics and creatures in this universe, I keep hearing interesting scraps of obscure info in these videos.

  • @JRussellDay
    @JRussellDay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Go team ventrue ✌️

  • @roberthaynes9924
    @roberthaynes9924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love your videos man, I'm a huge WoD lore nerd. You should make some videos on theories about the antedeluvians, their current whereabouts, motives and agendas, if the common held belief of their being only 13 is true (it isnt!). I'm sure alot of people would love to see that.

    • @luigidragonborn
      @luigidragonborn ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Robert, do you stil WoD?? I could use some ideas... for a game in Italy !! lIve action

  • @birgenm8287
    @birgenm8287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Epic stuff bro! Thanks for the awesome vid

  • @carmelopappalardo8477
    @carmelopappalardo8477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Al Capone had too many derangements to be a good venture. My family was involved with him in business and he was very unhinged. His temper his derangements were really bad.

    • @societyofleopold6827
      @societyofleopold6827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well wouldn’t that most likely be later in his life when he was losing his mind to Syphilis?

    • @carmelopappalardo8477
      @carmelopappalardo8477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@societyofleopold6827 I think that but I also think he was becoming unhinged because of him possibly being killed by his own people. A great example is his accountant died and they stuffed the body somewhere else and told the wife where to pick it up. Just crazy stupid stuff.

    • @christyshultz6443
      @christyshultz6443 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@societyofleopold6827 maybe.. maybe not see the thing of it is this is an alternate world.. they might have just said that the illness was to throw people off. I've seen games where people would get weird symptoms and it was because a vampire had been feeding on them. If Al had been turned way before then his symptoms might be something put on to cover for his odd behavior amongst Mortals. I mean it makes sense not all of that Clan are well composed and some of them are way not that young they were usually rich white men.. a good lot of them the old boys club definitely. Some of them Nobles some of them are just High status guys bankers and things like that. It wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility that they would wouldn't want influence in the criminal world and Capone would do that. I mean they already had on the other side the lasombra which they tried outdo and all things... and definitely la Smsombra do not have a problem getting their hands dirty sometimes.( hurted everybody forget that the lasombra sometimes favored the pirate life).

    • @jamesisaacson6379
      @jamesisaacson6379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carmelopappalardo8477 wait you family worked with al compone what your family name how and who in your family?

    • @AtlatlMan
      @AtlatlMan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm personally convinced Capone was more of a frontman than actually the one calling the shots. He was too erratic and, honestly, unintelligent.

  • @Zawishka
    @Zawishka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow such a massive work

  • @dragowolfx
    @dragowolfx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    mithra means friend in sanskrit and also a name for the sun because the sun(surya narayana or simply surya) can be considered a friend of earth rather this is an unconditional friendship....later romans borrowed the word from indians i guess

    • @hobo8420
      @hobo8420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mitra is also a Hindu deity, often paired with Varuna. He was also worshipped by the zoroastrians and pre zoroastrian Persians as Mithras, and the secretive cult of Mithras was adopted as a fad by roman soldiers who had initially served in the east, adn then it spread. The romans did not borrow the cult of worship from the indians but the Iranics

    • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
      @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hobo8420 Huh? What proof do you have that it spread because some Roman soldiers served in the east?
      If you're not aware, Romans are Indo-European people's too, just like (north) Indians and Persians. They have the same culture and logically the same deities, that may have different names and regional traits based on geography

    • @hobo8420
      @hobo8420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess the deity Mithra is an Iranic deity, a cognate to the Vedic deity of Mitra. the Roman legionaries serving in syria and mesopotamia likely picked up the cult from interaction with local iranic speaking peoples like the Parthians, etc. and the cult spread to the rest of the legions. i am well aware of the Indo European origins of the romans, however we are not aware of any archaic Italic, Greek, or Etruscan deity named Mithras, and the closest deity who fits the identity of Mithras, both in terms of nomenclature and motifs, is the Iranic Mithra, a pre-zoroastrian iranic deity later also picked up by the Zoroastrians

  • @ph4790
    @ph4790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quaaaaality content 🙏

  • @mrmathh3680
    @mrmathh3680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video m8, you absolutely nailed the ventrue and gave us some great insight, anyways, mind if i ask who's interpretation of the cello suite 2 is this?

  • @thomasdimitriadis2867
    @thomasdimitriadis2867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video, man! What's the song in the background, by the way?

  • @TheKagar
    @TheKagar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for Upload :)

  • @HORUS2939
    @HORUS2939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i´ve missed Breidenstein, Stahlburg and the other Monsters of Europe :D same vor the oter clan videos, were are the german controling sometimes mroe things, a Giovani/Fommore monster ^^ f.e

  • @gvbhnnnnnnhh
    @gvbhnnnnnnhh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Jyhad is never ending and Mithras is it's Champion.

  • @imkerrusin
    @imkerrusin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm curious about Anushin-Rawan. There is very little information about her history other than thwarting the assimite attack against a Ventrue Prince and made the Island of Yiaros into an elysium. I wish there was more information about her.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately, the great Qatari Ventrue diplomat is more of a plot-hook than anything else.

    • @imkerrusin
      @imkerrusin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lazarofstygia2241 Yeah, that does suck about her. I have been fine tuning my Ventrue vampire and at one point used her as his sire. I tried digging up what I could about her just to be on the safe side. It seemed like a good fit for the creative direction I was taking for him while taking extra care to clear a few things about the embracing and why.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diplomats need all kinds of auxiliaries: junior diplomats, bodyguards, messengers, fixers, etc.

  • @otakuofmine
    @otakuofmine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With that arrogant portrait alone - glad Theo Bell rid us of that visage. :D

    • @roberthaynes9924
      @roberthaynes9924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed, let's salute Theo Bell, whos doing God's work by consigned Ventrue souls to the void.

    • @otakuofmine
      @otakuofmine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@roberthaynes9924 indeed!

  • @theUglyGypsy
    @theUglyGypsy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about Julian, Prince of San Francisco lol?

  • @jacthing1
    @jacthing1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew the moment you mentioned Carthage and Rome that Cato was gonna pop up and say his famous line... because my god that gay had a hate boner for Carthage

  • @jonathanredacted3245
    @jonathanredacted3245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:05:48 and then she got annihilated by the second inquisition

  • @DoWhatNowQuestionmark
    @DoWhatNowQuestionmark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thousandth like!

  • @jbeattie1244
    @jbeattie1244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought lodin supposed to of died in a plane flight out of Chicago or is that why in 5th edition he turns u in Chicago by night v5 as the burnt Prince?????

  • @Cardan011
    @Cardan011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonder what sides clans took during WWII if in that universe there was WWII?

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In short: yes, Brujah for the Soviet state, Tremere for the USA, Ventrue for UK, and in high irony the Nazi's were mostly just human, because IRL politics and some very... passionate letters from "fans" after eariler versions explictly mentioned Nazi Brujah (which makes sense for the Brujah and Weimar Germany, and for the irony had no problem with the Brujah explictly creating and leading the far more genocidal and racist USSR), and yes but it ends a year later.

    • @wolfsbanealphas617
      @wolfsbanealphas617 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ssjjshawn i honestly was surprised venture weee not on the USA side then remembered their all old nobles joining 🇬🇧 makes sense

  • @peterwall8191
    @peterwall8191 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't be absurd! DUR-AN-KI was the link between earth and heaven, installed in Babylon after the rebellion. You're talking about the control centre ,that allowed the gods to come and go, not some magic trick.

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro7565 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    35:38 Emperor Constantine I didn't make Christianity the official religion of the Empire, he only made it legal to be a Christian .
    The Emperor Theodosius the Great was the man who made Christianity the official Religion of the Empire.

    • @Amyas80s
      @Amyas80s ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe in the world of darkness it happened another way.

  • @AntiXaldin
    @AntiXaldin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does Lodin really deserve a place in the list above Siegfried?

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Deserve's got nothing to do with it." - William Munny

    • @AntiXaldin
      @AntiXaldin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@lazarofstygia2241 I mean, Siegfried just seems like a better example of a Ventrue to me. Lodin was a pawn with an embarrassingly high brood while Siegfried was the uncontested master of his city, so secure in his power that all of Vancouver was considered Elysium. Certainly, Chicago is a more prestigious city than Vancouver but Istanbul is one of the most prestigious domains in the world and Mustafa didn't make the list.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My goal with the video on clan ventrue was first to present sort of how the clan evolved into its current form and then to present a cross-section of members that weren't all "Camarilla prince of city X".
      As for why Lodin and not Siegfried, there is more information about Lodin's career as prince and his spectacular downfall.

    • @nateperkins9860
      @nateperkins9860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AntiXaldin All kindred are pawns of somebody

  • @lukecaruana8871
    @lukecaruana8871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How typical that Britain is a 'sui generis' case.

    • @lazarofstygia2241
      @lazarofstygia2241  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When Mithras is the Prince of your domain, British exceptionalism is nothing to scoff at.

  • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
    @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think you should talk about how close the Malkavians and Toreador are to the Ventrue, probably the Ventrue closest allies and they're sibling clans. And they're also the ones who are the most committed to the Camarilla, while the Tremere are more detached to the Camarilla ideals