So Ya Bought A New Machine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- So you bought a new machine, I take you through the process to find out if My purchase of this K&T #2 Plain mill was worth the value I paid for it. I talk a little bit abought what to look for and should have done before your new purchase when buying used machinery.
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I'd like to see you rebuild and paint that machine. Great buy !
Looks like $700 well spent there Keith, stay safe
Keith I really like this machine. I don't believe I could store this till I freed up the pump. If not lubed it may turn into a rust ball. The x y and z motions seem really good. Sometimes machines of this vintage have trouble in the up direction on high speed but this is stellar.
Great to see a video from you. You have the best narrating voice of all my favorite youtube channels :-) Hope you get to use this mill as part of your workshop. Dedicated horizontal setup? Best from Denmark.
Amazing value for 700 Keith, a couple of days work and this would be ready for action. Nice find. Cheers, Jon
$700....That's $7,000 around me. Want it to work? That's an extra $4,000. Looked at a Jet Belt Drive Lathe, no chucks, no motor, half the handles missing, needed a total cleaning. Offered $600...I was laughed at. "$2500 minimum". Interwebs said this model was between $500 and $1500 in operating condition with chucks and tool holders. Nope, not in my area. Time to find a way to look outside the area...is what it is...
Personally, I'd have replaced those screws, on the sight glasses, with Allen Screws.
Everyone needs to take a break from things to clean out their s**thole once in a while. 😂
Yes Indeed !!
100% ✔
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I was wondering if that is the common name for that. Thanks for clearing that up.
What's the famous line? - Sh*tter was full!
Hello Keith,
Good to see you back on our screens… I hope you are well…
This was an interesting video, hopefully see you again soon.
Take care.
Paul,,
I’m calling camera trickery on this one. If I drop a screw, there’s no way I find it that quickly in real life.
The video went into the next day, all due to a "lost" screw. LOL
We're just all glad you're back and feeling better Keith.
THANK YOU...for sharing. Well worth $700.00.
Thanks Keith, I got my first mill, a 1942 K&T 2HL PLAIN when I was in high school. It needed a LOT more work to get running but I only paid 6 cents a pound for it. Has been a great machine for over 40 years now...
Keith knows how to talk to those old girls. Just tell them about the scrap yard across the street and they behave then.
Great to see Keith back and shooting jizm all over his new machine,
Back in "the day" they didn't make machines "to fail".
At some point, marketing came and locked engineers and customers away from each other.
Missed ya Keith! Soo sad we don't have SMELL A VISION yet! Hard to describe the lovely bouquet of old machinery lubricants. Thanks again Sir.
Think 90 weight oil smells bad? EEWWWW!
You’ll have to use new names now, “We’ll do this part over on the Milwauk-A or Milwauk-B”
Glad to see you got your head cleared up and everything. I wish I had the opportunity to buy a piece of equipment like that for my garage but I don't have three phase power and ANY machine within a day drive of my garage would have an extra 0 on the price and would be in far worse shape. It kinda makes me sick to see warehouses full of equipment just sitting there for years and years because they want $10,000 for a 50 year old piece of equipment they they picked up for scrap price a couple decades ago. But such is life.
Great to know you’re well!
I just recently picked up a 60's Clausing 14" lathe and tomorrow I'm going to pick up a mill. I've wanted a mill for some time but couldn't justify it until recently. The lathe was a project but the mill is going to be able to hit the floor running. Good machines are kind of hard to find at a decent price here in Florida.
I’m glad you are back my friend.
We are almost halfway through 2021 and I’m still trying to forget 2020.
Nice to see You back. Hope yeah over the hurdle Life throws Yeah! had full row of them lately Myself. Chin up Bud...
Everyone needs and deserves a break from time to time you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't take time for themselves glad your back tho keep yourself sane!
Keep it. You know the moment you sell it, yours will shit itself in the middle of a job.
Looks like you have a winner. Thanks for sharing.
Looks like gold to me . She's in really good shape . I used one like it many years ago . See we can build things to last for more then 5 years.
That was a great deal. A little work and some common wear parts you have a great mill. The table isn't all chewed up.
I've got the model k 2 universal, love it. Made to eat metal. Glad to see you in the shop. Get'er done.
Got one too but mine is a WAR FINISH.
@@50shadesofrust65 so is mine, ser# 44-5000.
Glad to see you back. Nice Mill. If that was on the West Coast, covered in thick rust, motor barely able to turn, handles missing, oil full of gunk, it would still be selling for a couple of thousand. I am jealous.
Wow what an awesome find...good to see no major issues. very well worth the cost, my luck usually runs the other way. Sure would be nice if you have the time to give the old girl a full clean-up and keep it in the shop.. Could be handy having two different setups...just saying
ATB...Dean
You're return is very much appreciated. Thanks for the fine video. BTW- please activate the CC function. Thank you.
Thanks for the video I have always liked old machinery🤗🤗🤗
So glad you're feeling better Mr. Fenner... Take care of yourself!!!
Great to see you back, looks like you got a rough diamond right there. All the best
Missed ya buddy was wondering what happened to your videos hope things are better for ya keep up the great work
I don't know, for $700 I'd probably buy that even if there was some things non-functional. I'd repair gears, replace shafts, recondition the motor, or even scrape the ways to get a deal like that.
(For comparison, I paid $500 for the lathe I'm restoring on my channel, and it's required a bit of work so far)
Wow looks like a smokin deal for 700.
Good to see you back in shop again Keith.
I have a couple hundred cutters that I ended up with from an auction. Everything from thin cutters to ~6” spiral. Most still have plastic on them (I assume from having been sharpened). I believe all of them are American made HSS. I thought maybe someone watching this may have a need since they’re just taking up space in my garage currently.
They couldn't see through the sight gauges so they kept adding oil "to be safe".
From my time in the Industrial Equipment industry ( I did mechanical power transmission, hydraulics and pneumatics and pretty much everything else) we always tried to sell the customer matched v-belts or two ,three, four + "multi V belts". Like 4 "D" belts in one. Wasn't much more expensive and it was a "fix it once and you're done". So many just got random belts of the "same" size but not matched and bitched that they didn't run the same. Um. "That match number on the belt is there for a reason".
My employer has a plant full of expensive CNC turning centers and vertical machining centers but we still have two of those same Kearny and Trecker mills that we use quite often. They are bullet proof and are often the best way to do certain operations. $700 was a steal!!
It would be good to see you restore this machine. Then use it, or market it. I like to put stuff back to new or, see stuff put back to new, that's just me. I'm glad to see you back.
That driveshaft sounds a little clackety but other than that pretty good shape.
PB Swiss screwdriver! A man of culture and taste.
All the best,
Tom
I was wondering the same thing. Thought it was some POS screwdriver.
And a Knipex pliers-wrench! Not old, but still an amazing tool.
So nice to see u back Keith, no need to apologize, we all have life things to deal with
I'm glad to see you back, Keith. You're the best machinist on TH-cam.
hell hes about the only machinist on you tube the others run cooking channels
@@ronalddavis And, the "Travel Channel"!
@@garybrenner6236 Nobody are forcing to watch the travel channel, that is a totally separate channel.
@@jesperdahl1486 whoosh
I have a 1943 2h plain...."war baby".. Looks like that same motor as in mine.. PLEASE correctly grease the motor bearings by using the purge plugs....Cheers from Louisiana....Mike
$700 Well Spent Keith 👍👍
great back up . its good to see ya :)
Traffic going by is freaking me out.
Glad to see you back Keith. That looks a really good pick up there, will be interesting to see its progress. Thanks for sharing. Regards from Wales
Good to have you back
So great to see you’re doing good and back at it get her done Keith
The scrapyard sounds convenient, that's handy.
Keith, really enjoyed this video, it has been awhile since I have visited your channel......great to see you are doing ok, your faithful viewer in Orlando, Paul....cheers.....the Clausing looks great with the new coat of paint....
Great video Keith, but Buffy told me she was pissed. She wants some attention.
New machine, same old issues..... I just bought this thing for pennies on the dollar.... Do I just scrap it out, or do I put any effort into figuring out if it even works??? Try flipping it around, if you can getting running you might even get it running. Now, what's going to potentially make you money???
Understand Life gets in the way sometimes . no problem ......... but I really miss my Fenner videos........ welcome back
fro &700 its a no brainer, Buy Buy Buy.
Even if it doesn't run, you'll probaly get back your $700 for scrap Iron and copper from the motor.
From the looks of it you made a good decision to purchase this Milwaukee. Change the oil and the belts and you’ll have a good piece of machinery.
Well bought. Glad to see a usable machine so low priced. I'm 46 and have ran a fence construction company my father founded in 1980 for the last 20 years. Due to a rare tick born infection called Tularemia, my physical strength and stamina was permanently impacted. Having watched Keith from almost the start of his channel, it helped me decide to move into another career and I am signed up to learn machine technology this fall. I hope that with my already advanced mechanical, electrical and welding skills that I can transition my business into a job shop where my brains are more important than my brawn.
24:11 The reason I generally don't watch your videos is that you faff around too much. At this time stamp, you've started and stopped the motor a time or two completely unnecessarily - while all of us are waiting for you to tickle the clutch with a view to fully engaging it.
Fitting a sight glass - catching oil leaking - I'd have thought you go for a complete oil change ?
It's what I plan with my machines - I'm not a fan of oil changes but the oil in the machines could be 60 years old !
The reason why it's cheap in price is your friend just cut you a deal or because it's just a plain old horizontal mill, now if it had a vertical head attachment that would put the mill in a different price range and versatility but I don't think that mill was designed for a vertical head.
hey fenner! good to see ya uploading and double bonus a new machine to disassemble and inspect...clean refurbish and put back to use. many of the creators i watch have been talking about work/projects and not showing it which has left me wanting new engineering to explore. as always thanks for the vids
How do you remove the rust from the table and get it back flat ?
Pressure washing not a good thing. Too many nooks and crannies you won't find out until the damage is done. The oil might look overfull because water got into the oil?
Oh geesus....how I hated those big old horizontal mills.....I never want to see one again after 60 + years of being in the trade they are horrible to work on.
So, how come you are storing it if it is basically the same as your K&T but with a bigger table and more travel?
Honestly machines like this were built from small machines to make huge machines . Scraping anything is a crime
Great video Keith. Many thanks for sharing
Thanks. You are looking well. I enjoyed the video.
I wonder if the preious owner overfilled the oil resevoirs to get the fluid level above any gears to keep them from rusting in storage.
Title should be: "So you bought a "new" machine.." :)
$700 seems like it would be worth it even for parts.
Glad to see you back don't worry about not making videos everyone knows you got some things to clean up
Thanks for sharing!
Hi it’s Stacie! I am happy to see you! You know what? Life does get in the way sometimes and you have to deal with it and move on! I was a little worried because I didn’t see you but obviously you posted a video so that makes me smile! Take care!😍
Thank you for saving another old machine down here they wanted small for in Washington Oregon
Looks like a good buy . I think i remember you did a stem repair on the other mill quite a while back . Cheers .
Looks like a win to me, nice job!
Good to see you again. $750 and cardboard box on the way from the U.K. 👍
That is a special friend to find you a great machine.
That has got to be close to the smartest spent $700.00 in history.
And exactly how much are the cutters for it? Have you ever run a horizontal? Pretty restricted in what it can do.
@@chrispollard6568 Keith already owns a lot of cutters that would fit it. And why are they restricted in what they can do? You can get vertical heads like he has on his other K&T, and apart from drilling holes or cutting pockets, you can do all the functions you can do on a vertical mill - facing, slitting, keyways, slots, profiles, cut gears and racks.
@@dennisleadbetter7721 Emphasis on the "he already owns". I buy machine tools at auction and this stuff is not easy to find. Saying it is a great deal to an amateur machinist is a bad idea. Tell them but a Grizzly that they can get parts for.
McMaster Carr used to have a lot of those sight glass replacement components.
Glad you are back!
Glad to see you have the Knipex. I bought 4 different sizes, there great
What a Beauty Keith, if I lived in the USA I would give you top dollar for it!
Why don't you keep it, you can never have enough tools.
What's the fair dollar you want for it?
No worries as long as You are well. Nice piece of equipment and it is runnjng!
●● I always learn something from your videos.
very good machine mr fenner..thanks for your time
Keith is back in action !!!! Nice machine....
Great video and content Keith!
I'd like to see how much backlash is in the movement of the table, Y axis and the knee's Z axis, if I have that correctly identified. Maybe you can give an update in your next video?
All the best to you sir.
Great to see you back! Nice mill. Thanks for the video!
Hey Keith - great buy! Quick question - what is that cell phone controlled camera you're using? Look pretty cool.
Osmo +2
@@KeithFenner Thanks Keith. You were one of my first youtube subscriptions, btw. You, Adam and Tom taught me everything I know. And it's been enough to make the first viable electric turbo on my channel - so far we're up to around 650 hp and climbing. I owe you a debt of gratitude. Thanks!
Glad you survived and came out on top still fighting. Of the 2 K&T''s your have which one suits your needs better? Enjoyed the video Keith, keep them coming.
You may already know this, but if you put a Shop-Vac hose on the oil inlet the vacuum will hold the oil in the case while you change the sight glass, etc. The only thing I don't use this trick on is with something that has flammable vapors like gasoline. It works great for patching holes in diesel tanks or radiators. I realize your oil was over full and you were intentionally letting some out, but I just thought I'd pass this trick on for others to use when needed.
Good to see you again, nothing else like older machines. They work! Indiana George