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This guys appraisal of Blair is spot on. Blair has wrecked irreversably what was once a calm, peace loving country of culture, tradition and history and turned it into a s***hole destined to get worse
Labour turned its back on its core support - for whom to this day it continues to despise. Labour deliberately imported a whole new client state, and made sure it’s removal was effectively impossible.
I often wondered if Tony Blair was sent from history to destroy all British culture and history. Then I realised he was a true believer of the Wokerati religion. So it all makes sense. Making him a Middle East peace envoy was almost biblical in its stupidity.
He is a little hat. They knew exactly what they were doing and what the consequences would be. It wasn't an accident, it was deliberate warfare to destroy us slowly instead of on a battlefield.
And who voted for him? Reelected twice with an open borders policy bringing in six million migrants. Well done, will help get our carbon footprint down.
Actually that was the Welshman Henry the 8th & his illegitimate daughter who destroyed British culture...& helped finish off what the pagan anglo-saxons started.
I was a voter for Blair and ended up believing he was the worst thing that ever happened to Britain. I thought that the people in Labour were socialist in the weakest sense. It never occurred to me that there were people evil enough or stupid enough to want communism.
I was eleven when Blair got into power. I can remember my mom cheering at the news on the radio so loudly I dropped my breakfast which I was carrying over to the table and smashed the bowl! 🤣🤣🤣 I can also remember how glad she was and how glad virtually everyone else I knew was when Blair finally pissed off!
Me too was blissfully unaware of the dangers of Socialism..IE Communism, had been a strong Labour voter until events around the Brexit vote and the maliciousness of the left became apparent to me. Everyone should note how it is accepted that speakers at the Labour Party conference get up and address one another as Comrade...giving themselves away !!
Blair is a Globalist not Socialist. Globalist is driven by Global Capitalism and international finance. The Right went for Capitalism not Nationalism and has completely failed to conserve ANYTHING. If you don't use the POWER of the nation state to control international finance, international finance will control the nation state.
I remember visiting my late mother, as apolitical a person as you were likely to meet, and the news was on TV, with Tony Blair walking into Downing Street with everyone cheering and my mother softly said "That man is dangerous"; I dismissed it at the time but she was right on the money.
Your mum was obviously a very wise woman, unaffected by a "crocodiles smile", Never trust a politician who smiles a lot, that goes for the Clintons, Obama, and Biden in america too!
@@colinellison762 I never trusted Blair or Clinton’s. . You’ve only got to look what Hilary was up to spreading fake news . This Biden . Obama . Kamala, Clinton Nancy are all corrupt . They are ruining America.
Your Mother probably saw the billboards advertised by the Tories at the time was Tony Blairs face covered with a red mask saying Danger for the Labour Party? But I could be wrong however !
@@wendyjones5853 No, years later, towards the end of her life, I spent a lot of time with her and came to realise that she was a very astute judge of people.
Very good discussion. I left Britain more than 40 years ago and have observed with great sadness the country's decline. The acceptance of the most stupid ideas is amazing. Minority groups have been allowed to impose their views on the majority. Perhaps it is now too late to fight back against the new barbarism but people should try.
I agree with you. We now have the situation where it is not illegal to damage public property, eg. the pulling down of statues of historical characters. The snowflake woke brigade who think it is their right to cancel those who disagree with their views. Universities used to be places where debate and differences of opinion were encouraged. Sadly if you don't agree with the cultural Marxists your life is made intolerable and can even cost you your job.
@David Robert Malcolm - Okay, but you evidently didn't pay very close attention to the nuances of this discussion. As Rafe's excellent analysis made clear, most of those very stupid ideas you mention have been promulgated by white British communists (like Blair and Mandelson), who were genuinely committed to destroying British institutions from within.
A most interesting and intelligent conversation, something which is severely lacking in the general media. Notwithstanding the Blair legacy the biggest crime against the nation is the fact that the Conservatives have been derelict in their duty to rectify the damage done, which effectively makes them complicit.
Your comment on the conservatives serves equally to the states where they're guilty of doing nothing except pretend to serve our interests. That makes me feel the most hopeless.
The last 3 years have made me want to immigrate for the first time, not because it's got worse but because now I think there's no hope. It's so sad, and it all stems back to May 1997!
Well think twice if you are considering Canada, our Woke Prince Justin Trudeau is destroying this once great country. I emigrated in the seventies and would never return to the UK, BUT, Canada is becoming a WEF controlled country.
I remember saying all this to my gran when I was not even voting age. She just said ; 'He's a very clever man Paul.' I said I never disagreed with that. I'm proud my first votes were against him. I have rarely been more right.
34:10 "Immigration needs to happen at a slow steady pace that enables a society to adapt to the new populations". Surely it's up to the "new population" to adapt to the society it's decided to join?
Really enjoyed this episode, Rafe is such a balanced thinker with a twinkle in his eye. "Growlergate" had me chuckling for a good few minutes. Emma is really growing into her interviewer role, excellent work.
Emma is well intentioned, perhaps, but her adoption of the left's language re abortion makes me wonder: is she really on the right at all? Killing kids is extreme. To be pro life is to recognize women have responsibilities once pregnant.
@@jillwilliams2799 You may be interested to know Nancy Pelosi has just been banned from Holy Communion by her Archbishop in California over her vocal support for abortion 'rights'.
Another refreshing discussion and in respect to Blair's 'legacy' I concur with every comment expressed. He, Blair, will answer to history in a way that others will not. Our infrastructures are now nearly all broken as a result, we have lost our way and cannot relate to the past, we have forgotten what education should entail at all levels and now with 50% of young people in tertiary education ('university') it has proven to be near pointless and ruinous to the economy, ... and so it goes on. Refreshing the programme is but depressing in what it has to tackle, but thank goodness for it.
I don't find that it is hypocritical to be against abortion and for the death penalty, based not on the value of life, but on the fact that one is a punishment, whereas the unborn baby has not murdered anybody. What I find hypocritical, to put it mildly, is that photos of what babies look like when they can be aborted are not divulged on the basis of it being 'in bad taste', because they are clearly human beings!
The right-to-life mustn’t be confused with the removal of a highest level of threat an offender’s presence poses to society. To support one and not the other isn’t a matter of hypocrisy.
Point of information: The Texas Law that was overturned by Roe v. Wade was passed in 1856 was passed by the Texas legislature because of pressure from the Texas Medical Association. The reason was the verification of the FACT of epigenesis about ten years before by A Belgium scientist who observed thru a microscope the “fertilization” of a rabbit ovuum by a rabbit sperm. The theory was over 80 years old but now it was SEEN to be fact. Some Texas doctors then advanced the argument that a common treatment of women whose periods wee being long delayed was in fact an abotifacient and ought to be prohibited. Beyond this, the observations also showed that the development of the” fetus” (Latin for undeveloped child) was FAR more rapid and than had hitherto been known and that, certain. long before the quickening, the humanity of the unborn child was already far advanced. Thus morally abortion was questionable.. Hence Texas radical restricted abortion, allowing it to be done only in cases of raape, incest and bodily danger to the “gravitas”(the Latin word for the woman carrying the baby),
@@JRobbySh I'd sooner have the rapist killed than the life that ensues from his crime, but then 'rape' is being stretched more and more to include when women in love or married to the man weren't sure they felt like it at that moment, or it went a bit faster or less romantic than they had imagined. Incest is a social construct: normal family members aren't attracted to one another, and of course pedofilia and rape are monstruous. All these problems should not exist and do so only in a godless society. We're doomed whatever we do without God. And the last case is a medical problem to be decided on case by case.
We got captured by the Global American Empire and its open borders Globalisation project in 1945. Blair was a symptom but the rot had already set in. My part of East London went under in the 70s.
This was the most BASED conversation about the reality in London as a representative of England as a whole that I've heard in years! Thank you so much for telling the truth without fear. 🏴 England FIRST! Should be the Tory banner for the next elections, and Boris has to be replaced with a Nationalist, balanced conservative in the John Locke legacy of thought.
We mustn't forget that, whichever party is in charge, they all take orders from the older institutions that have no elected leaders. The CPS, the Home office, the Foreign office etc. All of these institutions 'advise' the current government, and no government ever undoes the unpopular legislation of a previous government. Blair was a complete and utter nob though, the amount of laws passed under his rule were ridiculous and mostly bad for most people.
I was 13 years old when Blair was elected. I had worked my arse off to get into a nearby grant-maintained upper school with an excellent reputation and the ability to decided its own selection policy. Labour scrapped the grant-maintained system, and suddenly everything had to go through the LEA. Suddenly, everyone was expected to go to university, and my degree, which would once have allowed me to walk into my choice of job, is one among thousands. Labour have systematically dismantled and corrupted the structures which made this nation great, just as I was poised to inherit them. There was never any intent to dismantle the Lords, only to infest them. The Supreme Court was stitched onto our system of government specifically so that it could be filled with Labour stooges, who cannot be removed. Their job is to act as a political valve; leftist policies are allowed through, conservative policies are resisted. Labour's attitude towards immigration is given away completely by the Phrase, "...rub the right's noses in diversity". It tells us everything that Labour thinks of the nation, and of the people they have brought into this nation.
The next time I vote for a party I will investigate first where the leader was born. Even if he looks as white as me and speaks English fluently. As it's my belief if they have not grown up in the UK they are no different to an Asian who keeps all his tribal and cultural beliefs. Boris is living proof of this. We need a leader who feels strongly towards the culture and history of this great land.
Another more detailed program on Blair and his legacy including about what his government's plans really were ( with evidence) would be appreciated. Many on the left think he was a benign centrist and feel he should come back, we need to be able to enlighten them!
I agree, a proper investigation into that period is crucial and needs to be told to the masses and then a focus on what is happening in the education systems
Globalisation destroyed the nation state democracy decades ago. The nation state failed to control international finance, now international finance controls the nation state.
In 2002 the BBC broadcast Adam Curtis’s three part documentary, The Century Of Self, on Primetime Sunday’s. It made a big impression on me but what really struck is that I couldn’t find anyone who had watched it (ok, I didn’t ask that many people but it was indicative). Here’s the thing; the Century Of Self should have set off serious alarm bells... Blair should never have been elected for a third term (or any, for that matter) but the MMT (Modern Monetary Theory/Magic Money Tree) grift that New Labour had perfected was just too good to give up. Peter Shore at his 1975 speech on the EU at the Oxford Union warned about “the trend” but no, most people are addicted to that Quantitative Expropriation.
@@rule3036 not every child that could have been aborted would necessarily have parents that wouldn't have regretted that decision over time. Also adoption is a thing
@@rule3036 There are many people that were abused and unloved as children but go on to have fulfilled lives. ALL babies should be given that opportunity.
We need Jesus. The question I have is where are the youths in our churches. Why have we abandoned God? We need more John Wesleys in our world, more men and women of God. I have noticed that the UK has plummeted down a very dark route since abandoning God. Crime and violence has increased enormously that is a direct correlation between lower church attendance and irreligiousness amongst our people. What made Britain great was God my brother. Not drugs, not sex, not alcohol but God himself
>Why have we abandoned God? - because it's all ridiculous childish make-believe and the scriptures contradict themselves at every turn and contain barabaric directives (keeping slaves is OK, slaughtering the Midianites is OK, but don't have a graven image or cut your hedge on the Sabbath or you'll be put to death....), I agree that society needs the morality that the church used to enforce by threat of eternal damnation but morality needs to be based on something real, like just good old common decency, not on imaginary friends who say they love you but will cast you into a pit of fire for eternity if you don't obey their every whim.
Because our parishes were purposely destroyed, our churches and hones demolished, to make way for the University buildings. Brainwashing and indoctrination took over our kids, that's why Blair wanted so many to go to uni. That's what happened in Liverpool, from the 70s.
My wife is pregnant for the third time, we didn’t plan it, we are short of a bedroom, we will struggle financially for several years but we will welcome this baby in to the world as a blessing and not a burden. In our circumstances (I repeat: in our circumstances) the alternative is unthinkable.
Goodness me that was an incredible discussion. Now that is going straight to my save video folder. Imagine adding Douglas Murray or Peter hitchins or Calvin Robinson to the panel and rerunning it 😁
Given the majority that Boris and the Tories had, why havent they done anything to undo all the damage done by Blair? I can only conclude that "they" are all on the same page which isnt the same as the people that foolishly elected them.
And if you are British but your great-grandparents emigrated to NZ or Australia the British immigration system treats you as a total foreigner, despite your family's efforts in two wars (and the fact - again - that you're 100 percent British). And this is a racist country we are told, a racist country that overlooks people of it's own race.
In Victoria, where I live, it has been legal since 2008 to perform an abortion on a baby being born. Indeed, the terms "pregnant", "third semester" and "abortion" while used are deliberately not defined in the act, to enable maximum flexibility. The means of abortion under the act are a) an instrument (undefined) b) a drug or combination of drugs (undefined) or c) any other means (this is a verbatim quote) which means that in a leading state in Australia it is perfectly legal to drive a nail into a baby's head or to strangle it etc. Further, any medical professional objecting has to find another who is willing to do it, or face expulsion from the medical profession. This, I think, is the most horrifying piece of legislation in the West and something that disturbs me (a gay atheist) every single day of my life. The current Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews a notional Catholic, was the minister of health who introduced the act to parliament in 2008. As I have thought, over the years, about the horror story entailed in this act, I have come to appreciate that a so-called "trimester" abortion requires completely different techniques than an abortion in the first semester. There are, according to the Washington Post (2015), only three places in the world that permit trimester abortions, China (where it was forced on women as a tool of their failed one-child policy), Vietnam (for reasons I do not understand) and Victoria Australia, the cafe-latte chardonnay sipping capital of the world of woke.
I fear that the damage to our dear old country is irrevocable now and I don't think I have any alternative but to leave. I have a five year plan that will result in me settling in another country. I'm not alone in this, as the population increases due to immigration, emigration of the indigenous, white British population is at an all time high.
As G. K. Chesterton observed: 'When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.'
There's no doubt that Blair and co. caused huge damage to the institutions and power structures of the UK. Firstly by devolution - which has stoked the fires of nationalism(I'd say that it is quite likely that Scotland will go independent in my lifetime). Then there's what they did to the legal system of the UK. Education - already dumbed down by the Tories was dealt a terrible blow with Blair and his 50% target of people going into higher education(it was already too high under the Tories) - we sent people who had no right to be there on useless degrees. Then there's Gordon Brown's insane economic policy of just letting the city of London's financial sector get away with murder so he can get the tax and just go on a spending spree for public services(with no thought what so ever to any reform of them). Then there's mass immigration on a scale that the UK had never experienced before - causing mass racial tensions, wage suppression and huge strain of the infrastructure and public services of the UK. There's no doubt that the media were very favourable to Blair(up until Iraq). If they hadn't of been and actually covered some of these things, then maybe Blair would of had a tougher time trying to implement these bad policies.
I voted for Blair and I regretted it more than anything ever! Well at least now I’ve became aware of what’s going on and don’t rely on the main stream media
Before an abortion is enacted, the woman should be required to watch an MRI video of of what happens to the fetus during it killing & the distress it causes!
Many thanks to the NCF for all their extremely interesting and encouraging talks and discussions. The organisation's views and discussions appear to me to be well in touch with the public puls and hence quite probably resonate with the public's genuine mood. This talk here is, to my mind, a case in point. A further "upshot" from this discussion is the intellectual quality, humanity and .... attractiveness of the interviewer, Ms. Webb.
We now live in a world where a girl is allowed, even encouraged to have her womb, and all the life it could bring, removed, so that she/he can become a boy! There are many reasons to abort or not to abort. However, once that womb is gone, there is no life to come. It is irreversible. Would that Blair's policies could be made to disappear as quickly. Blair and his counterparts in other places, was responsible for many of the policies which allowed this to happen. What can the future hold?
They need quotas for intelligence, honesty and courage in MPs. I could never understand the media's love affair with Blair, for me every time he opened and continues to open his mouth it's like the proverbial nails down the chalkboard.
I was at school with Blair and he was always a Trot, extremely hard left and open about the importance of seizing power and presenting himself as a neo liberal when actually he was always hard left.
If this happens, it will probably mean the birth rate in the states that ban abortion will increase as opposed to decrease and should make those states more prosperous over time. With the other states having to turn to immigrants to make up the numbers.
The birth “dearth” is more and more come to be seen as a threat to society. Immigration is a solution only when there is an excess of population, and those places are become fewer and fewer.
@@JRobbySh are you saying there isn't a birth rate problem in the world? If so I strongly disagree. This is a globalists view and I'm a nationalist and patriot.
A man who has been racist enough to wear blackface so often that he couldn't even say how many times is looking down on Christians dying on the battlefield having fought for his country
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This guys appraisal of Blair is spot on. Blair has wrecked irreversably what was once a calm, peace loving country of culture, tradition and history and turned it into a s***hole destined to get worse
As was the intention .
Labour turned its back on its core support - for whom to this day it continues to despise. Labour deliberately imported a whole new client state, and made sure it’s removal was effectively impossible.
Understand his patronage of Common Purpose to truly appreciate how this is planned.
Blair is just a puppet though of his real masters , like all western politicians.
So depressing for our grandchildren
I often wondered if Tony Blair was sent from history to destroy all British culture and history. Then I realised he was a true believer of the Wokerati religion. So it all makes sense. Making him a Middle East peace envoy was almost biblical in its stupidity.
Hence Blair’s patronage of Common Purpose.
He just moved over to work for his paymasters.
He is a little hat. They knew exactly what they were doing and what the consequences would be.
It wasn't an accident, it was deliberate warfare to destroy us slowly instead of on a battlefield.
And who voted for him? Reelected twice with an open borders policy bringing in six million migrants. Well done, will help get our carbon footprint down.
Actually that was the Welshman Henry the 8th & his illegitimate daughter who destroyed British culture...& helped finish off what the pagan anglo-saxons started.
I was a voter for Blair and ended up believing he was the worst thing that ever happened to Britain.
I thought that the people in Labour were socialist in the weakest sense. It never occurred to me that there were people evil enough or stupid enough to want communism.
I was eleven when Blair got into power. I can remember my mom cheering at the news on the radio so loudly I dropped my breakfast which I was carrying over to the table and smashed the bowl! 🤣🤣🤣 I can also remember how glad she was and how glad virtually everyone else I knew was when Blair finally pissed off!
Done some regretful things in my life , but at Least I never voted Blair and labour .
Me too was blissfully unaware of the dangers of Socialism..IE Communism, had been a strong Labour voter until events around the Brexit vote and the maliciousness of the left became apparent to me. Everyone should note how it is accepted that speakers at the Labour Party conference get up and address one another as Comrade...giving themselves away !!
Labour work effectively on greed.
Blair is a Globalist not Socialist. Globalist is driven by Global Capitalism and international finance.
The Right went for Capitalism not Nationalism and has completely failed to conserve ANYTHING. If you don't use the POWER of the nation state to control international finance, international finance will control the nation state.
I remember visiting my late mother, as apolitical a person as you were likely to meet, and the news was on TV, with Tony Blair walking into Downing Street with everyone cheering and my mother softly said "That man is dangerous"; I dismissed it at the time but she was right on the money.
Your mum was obviously a very wise woman, unaffected by a "crocodiles smile", Never trust a politician who smiles a lot, that goes for the Clintons, Obama, and Biden in america too!
@@colinellison762 I never trusted Blair or Clinton’s. . You’ve only got to look what Hilary was up to spreading fake news . This Biden . Obama . Kamala, Clinton Nancy are all corrupt . They are ruining America.
Your Mother probably saw the billboards advertised by the Tories at the time was Tony Blairs face covered with a red mask saying Danger for the Labour Party? But I could be wrong however !
@@wendyjones5853 No, years later, towards the end of her life, I spent a lot of time with her and came to realise that she was a very astute judge of people.
Very good discussion. I left Britain more than 40 years ago and have observed with great sadness the country's decline. The acceptance of the most stupid ideas is amazing. Minority groups have been allowed to impose their views on the majority. Perhaps it is now too late to fight back against the new barbarism but people should try.
I agree with you. We now have the situation where it is not illegal to damage public property, eg. the pulling down of statues of historical characters. The snowflake woke brigade who think it is their right to cancel those who disagree with their views.
Universities used to be places where debate and differences of opinion were encouraged. Sadly if you don't agree with the cultural Marxists your life is made intolerable and can even cost you your job.
@David Robert Malcolm - Okay, but you evidently didn't pay very close attention to the nuances of this discussion. As Rafe's excellent analysis made clear, most of those very stupid ideas you mention have been promulgated by white British communists (like Blair and Mandelson), who were genuinely committed to destroying British institutions from within.
Where did you go? It's the same everywhere now isnt it?
@@moomoo4481 Everywhere in Western Countries only . That is only WHITE European Heritage People Countries. Not that there's an agenda or anything
I also look at Britain from many miles away and am terrified at the womb invasion whish has been allowed
Tony Blair is largely responsible for the terrible education system. From a retired teacher.
My goodness me! How wonderful to hear so much truth being spoken for a change! Absolutely spot on about Blair.
Rafe really hits the nail on the head when it comes to Tony Blair.
Loved this episode. Rafe's appreciation of arguments on all sides gives one greater respect for his own strong views.
Agreed.
He is so well informed and considered in all that he says.
A most interesting and intelligent conversation, something which is severely lacking in the general media. Notwithstanding the Blair legacy the biggest crime against the nation is the fact that the Conservatives have been derelict in their duty to rectify the damage done, which effectively makes them complicit.
Your comment on the conservatives serves equally to the states where they're guilty of doing nothing except pretend to serve our interests. That makes me feel the most hopeless.
Tony Blair has ruined this country for ever. Whst the fuck did he do to get a knighthood??
(Nothing)
They are simply trolling us now .
He followed orders
I heard a commentator say “ because he was a leader of this country”. Unbelievable!! That’s not a good reason.
What did Jimmy Saville do?
The nation was inflicted with 'Long Blair', similar to 'Long Covid' only far more devastating.
Blair is real covid is not...
@@meestermeesterhastings.3159 True. I was using poetic licence.😀
The last 3 years have made me want to immigrate for the first time, not because it's got worse but because now I think there's no hope.
It's so sad, and it all stems back to May 1997!
I feel much the same. There are so many who fail to understand what's important about Britain and why we need to preserve it.
But where would you go? There is no safe haven,these people are everywhere and run everything.
Well think twice if you are considering Canada, our Woke Prince Justin Trudeau is destroying this once great country. I emigrated in the seventies and would never return to the UK, BUT, Canada is becoming a WEF controlled country.
@@forthfarean I know, so sad.
I can't wait to get out post 97 the UK has been slowly dying as a decent place to live.
You got Blair, we here in the U.S. got Obama. Both damaged their respective countries maybe irreparably.
All by design.
I remember saying all this to my gran when I was not even voting age.
She just said ;
'He's a very clever man Paul.'
I said I never disagreed with that.
I'm proud my first votes were against him. I have rarely been more right.
Such an enjoyable wide ranging and thoughtful conversation. thank you and keep it up.
34:10 "Immigration needs to happen at a slow steady pace that enables a society to adapt to the new populations".
Surely it's up to the "new population" to adapt to the society it's decided to join?
What a great discussion between two of our favorite commentators - Emma and Rafe. Thank you both.
Really enjoyed this episode, Rafe is such a balanced thinker with a twinkle in his eye. "Growlergate" had me chuckling for a good few minutes. Emma is really growing into her interviewer role, excellent work.
Emma is well intentioned, perhaps, but her adoption of the left's language re abortion makes me wonder: is she really on the right at all? Killing kids is extreme. To be pro life is to recognize women have responsibilities once pregnant.
I got the impression she was on the side of pro life. Proves what a good interviewer she is maybe.
@@jillwilliams2799 You may be interested to know Nancy Pelosi has just been banned from Holy Communion by her Archbishop in California over her vocal support for abortion 'rights'.
Another refreshing discussion and in respect to Blair's 'legacy' I concur with every comment expressed. He, Blair, will answer to history in a way that others will not. Our infrastructures are now nearly all broken as a result, we have lost our way and cannot relate to the past, we have forgotten what education should entail at all levels and now with 50% of young people in tertiary education ('university') it has proven to be near pointless and ruinous to the economy, ... and so it goes on. Refreshing the programme is but depressing in what it has to tackle, but thank goodness for it.
Where's this man been hiding? Another intellect,easy to understand and listen to. Its great to hear people like this clearly expound their views
Absolutely top notch discussion.
I don't find that it is hypocritical to be against abortion and for the death penalty, based not on the value of life, but on the fact that one is a punishment, whereas the unborn baby has not murdered anybody.
What I find hypocritical, to put it mildly, is that photos of what babies look like when they can be aborted are not divulged on the basis of it being 'in bad taste', because they are clearly human beings!
The right-to-life mustn’t be confused with the removal of a highest level of threat an offender’s presence poses to society. To support one and not the other isn’t a matter of hypocrisy.
Sanctity of innocent life
Point of information: The Texas Law that was overturned by Roe v. Wade was passed in 1856 was passed by the Texas legislature because of pressure from the Texas Medical Association. The reason was the verification of the FACT of epigenesis about ten years before by A Belgium scientist who observed thru a microscope the “fertilization” of a rabbit ovuum by a rabbit sperm. The theory was over 80 years old but now it was SEEN to be fact. Some Texas doctors then advanced the argument that a common treatment of women whose periods wee being long delayed was in fact an abotifacient and ought to be prohibited. Beyond this, the observations also showed that the development of the” fetus” (Latin for undeveloped child) was FAR more rapid and than had hitherto been known and that, certain. long before the quickening, the humanity of the unborn child was already far advanced. Thus morally abortion was questionable.. Hence Texas radical restricted abortion, allowing it to be done only in cases of raape, incest and bodily danger to the “gravitas”(the Latin word for the woman carrying the baby),
@@JRobbySh I'd sooner have the rapist killed than the life that ensues from his crime, but then 'rape' is being stretched more and more to include when women in love or married to the man weren't sure they felt like it at that moment, or it went a bit faster or less romantic than they had imagined. Incest is a social construct: normal family members aren't attracted to one another, and of course pedofilia and rape are monstruous. All these problems should not exist and do so only in a godless society. We're doomed whatever we do without God. And the last case is a medical problem to be decided on case by case.
Two of the most sensible level headed people I have listened to in ages, brilliant
33:25 absolutely spot on....just listen for next 5 years and you get most accurate description of how the UK is not the nation we grew up in...
We got captured by the Global American Empire and its open borders Globalisation project in 1945.
Blair was a symptom but the rot had already set in.
My part of East London went under in the 70s.
The GAE.
Hitler was a male prostitute. Sold his little arse to you know who.😂😂😂
Same in Liverpool mate.
I agree. Revolting man
We never recovered from 1945.
@Geo S true. A 2 part war.
This was the most BASED conversation about the reality in London as a representative of England as a whole that I've heard in years! Thank you so much for telling the truth without fear. 🏴
England FIRST! Should be the Tory banner for the next elections, and Boris has to be replaced with a Nationalist, balanced conservative in the John Locke legacy of thought.
We mustn't forget that, whichever party is in charge, they all take orders from the older institutions that have no elected leaders. The CPS, the Home office, the Foreign office etc. All of these institutions 'advise' the current government, and no government ever undoes the unpopular legislation of a previous government.
Blair was a complete and utter nob though, the amount of laws passed under his rule were ridiculous and mostly bad for most people.
Follow the money.
@@rosscampbell1173 Into his pocket
And yet those laws were passed
I am very pleased to see Mr Heydel-Mankoo have a long-form opportunity. Thank you.
✅well said👏🏻
@@hittitecharioteer Yes, he's wonderful!
I was 13 years old when Blair was elected. I had worked my arse off to get into a nearby grant-maintained upper school with an excellent reputation and the ability to decided its own selection policy. Labour scrapped the grant-maintained system, and suddenly everything had to go through the LEA. Suddenly, everyone was expected to go to university, and my degree, which would once have allowed me to walk into my choice of job, is one among thousands. Labour have systematically dismantled and corrupted the structures which made this nation great, just as I was poised to inherit them.
There was never any intent to dismantle the Lords, only to infest them. The Supreme Court was stitched onto our system of government specifically so that it could be filled with Labour stooges, who cannot be removed. Their job is to act as a political valve; leftist policies are allowed through, conservative policies are resisted.
Labour's attitude towards immigration is given away completely by the Phrase, "...rub the right's noses in diversity". It tells us everything that Labour thinks of the nation, and of the people they have brought into this nation.
John Major, who never went to university, was responsible for the idea that 50% of the school leavers should have a degree.
The next time I vote for a party I will investigate first where the leader was born. Even if he looks as white as me and speaks English fluently. As it's my belief if they have not grown up in the UK they are no different to an Asian who keeps all his tribal and cultural beliefs. Boris is living proof of this. We need a leader who feels strongly towards the culture and history of this great land.
Not only Britain, but the EU aswell. Tony Beliar.
We never recovered from WW2. My part of East London went under in the 70s. Blair was just a symptom.
Such sense but such scary listening, I really worry for my grandchildrens future! Thank you Emma and Rafe.
Rafe is a breath of fresh air - great.
Superb analysis from Rafe Heydel-Mankoo
Dinghy divers coming to a hotel near you.
It will be us in the dingies going in the other direction soon
@@raspberrytreacle yep , we’ll do a swap for Africa .
Thanks
Thank you very much!
Another more detailed program on Blair and his legacy including about what his government's plans really were ( with evidence) would be appreciated. Many on the left think he was a benign centrist and feel he should come back, we need to be able to enlighten them!
Enlighten the left? I think that's near impossible!
I agree, a proper investigation into that period is crucial and needs to be told to the masses and then a focus on what is happening in the education systems
Why have they been allowed to ruin Britain? I despair.
Globalisation destroyed the nation state democracy decades ago. The nation state failed to control international finance, now international finance controls the nation state.
Wow, a channel that actually discusses truthfully what the consequences of the repeal of Roe v Wade would be.
How spot on this man is about most things especially the affect of Tony Blair's government 're immigration
In 2002 the BBC broadcast Adam Curtis’s three part documentary, The Century Of Self, on Primetime Sunday’s. It made a big impression on me but what really struck is that I couldn’t find anyone who had watched it (ok, I didn’t ask that many people but it was indicative). Here’s the thing; the Century Of Self should have set off serious alarm bells... Blair should never have been elected for a third term (or any, for that matter) but the MMT (Modern Monetary Theory/Magic Money Tree) grift that New Labour had perfected was just too good to give up. Peter Shore at his 1975 speech on the EU at the Oxford Union warned about “the trend” but no, most people are addicted to that Quantitative Expropriation.
Seeing what happens in an abortion would make anyone throw up and be shattered for the rest of your life.
But seeing the damage of an unwanted child is worse....abuse, misery, disease.
And there is always adoption.
@@rule3036 not every child that could have been aborted would necessarily have parents that wouldn't have regretted that decision over time. Also adoption is a thing
@@rule3036 There are many people that were abused and unloved as children but go on to have fulfilled lives. ALL babies should be given that opportunity.
It really wouldn't
NCF provides top class political analysis and cultural discussion week in week out . Great episode
Thank you!
We need Jesus. The question I have is where are the youths in our churches. Why have we abandoned God? We need more John Wesleys in our world, more men and women of God. I have noticed that the UK has plummeted down a very dark route since abandoning God. Crime and violence has increased enormously that is a direct correlation between lower church attendance and irreligiousness amongst our people. What made Britain great was God my brother. Not drugs, not sex, not alcohol but God himself
>Why have we abandoned God? - because it's all ridiculous childish make-believe and the scriptures contradict themselves at every turn and contain barabaric directives (keeping slaves is OK, slaughtering the Midianites is OK, but don't have a graven image or cut your hedge on the Sabbath or you'll be put to death....), I agree that society needs the morality that the church used to enforce by threat of eternal damnation but morality needs to be based on something real, like just good old common decency, not on imaginary friends who say they love you but will cast you into a pit of fire for eternity if you don't obey their every whim.
Because we simply don't believe- I literally can't imagine believing in a supernatural power like that
Because our parishes were purposely destroyed, our churches and hones demolished, to make way for the University buildings. Brainwashing and indoctrination took over our kids, that's why Blair wanted so many to go to uni. That's what happened in Liverpool, from the 70s.
In just 60 years.
I agree.
I wish Rafe was in charge. Things would be so much better.
Hear! Hear!
Just makes one ask just who should have been on trial for crimes against Europe
My wife is pregnant for the third time, we didn’t plan it, we are short of a bedroom, we will struggle financially for several years but we will welcome this baby in to the world as a blessing and not a burden. In our circumstances (I repeat: in our circumstances) the alternative is unthinkable.
@LM Bas thank you!
Thank you - both of you.
Goodness me that was an incredible discussion. Now that is going straight to my save video folder.
Imagine adding Douglas Murray or Peter hitchins or Calvin Robinson to the panel and rerunning it 😁
Great chat here. Made me think about abortion deeper than I thought I would.
@@rob8371 it was and it took a lot of the heat out of the argument for me anyway.
@@jumblestiltskin1365 Killing kids is evil. Why is it different if Putin does it or Dr Smith fron Harrogate does it?
Given the majority that Boris and the Tories had, why havent they done anything to undo all the damage done by Blair? I can only conclude that "they" are all on the same page which isnt the same as the people that foolishly elected them.
Big tick to Emma and Rafe.
Bair needs to be punished
And if you are British but your great-grandparents emigrated to NZ or Australia the British immigration system treats you as a total foreigner, despite your family's efforts in two wars (and the fact - again - that you're 100 percent British). And this is a racist country we are told, a racist country that overlooks people of it's own race.
Jail Blair. Life sentence for the Chief Criminal.
It is cretinous to compare abortion and capital punishment, does anyone need explaining to them the difference between an unborn baby and a murderer?
@@rob8371 communist are neither sacred nor human.
I think it's more the act. Many that are pro abortion are anti capital punishment. That is the hypocricy.
@@doris.from.pinner Spot on. 🙂
Great discussion, learnt a lot, thank you! LC
In Victoria, where I live, it has been legal since 2008 to perform an abortion on a baby being born. Indeed, the terms "pregnant", "third semester" and "abortion" while used are deliberately not defined in the act, to enable maximum flexibility. The means of abortion under the act are a) an instrument (undefined) b) a drug or combination of drugs (undefined) or c) any other means (this is a verbatim quote) which means that in a leading state in Australia it is perfectly legal to drive a nail into a baby's head or to strangle it etc. Further, any medical professional objecting has to find another who is willing to do it, or face expulsion from the medical profession. This, I think, is the most horrifying piece of legislation in the West and something that disturbs me (a gay atheist) every single day of my life. The current Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews a notional Catholic, was the minister of health who introduced the act to parliament in 2008.
As I have thought, over the years, about the horror story entailed in this act, I have come to appreciate that a so-called "trimester" abortion requires completely different techniques than an abortion in the first semester. There are, according to the Washington Post (2015), only three places in the world that permit trimester abortions, China (where it was forced on women as a tool of their failed one-child policy), Vietnam (for reasons I do not understand) and Victoria Australia, the cafe-latte chardonnay sipping capital of the world of woke.
I fear that the damage to our dear old country is irrevocable now and I don't think I have any alternative but to leave. I have a five year plan that will result in me settling in another country. I'm not alone in this, as the population increases due to immigration, emigration of the indigenous, white British population is at an all time high.
This was a good discussion, thanks. I laughed at the John Dear joke, so at least one person got it.
Select our best archaeologists and scholars to locate Avalon with instructions to awaken Arthur from his slumber
Blair is quilty of all of this but what have the Tories done about it nothing just as bad their all uselessly Britain needs something new soon
I’d always thought of Canada as a place I’d like to move to. I’ve changed my mind.
EXCELLENT thank you, brilliant discussion
As G. K. Chesterton observed: 'When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.'
There's no doubt that Blair and co. caused huge damage to the institutions and power structures of the UK. Firstly by devolution - which has stoked the fires of nationalism(I'd say that it is quite likely that Scotland will go independent in my lifetime). Then there's what they did to the legal system of the UK. Education - already dumbed down by the Tories was dealt a terrible blow with Blair and his 50% target of people going into higher education(it was already too high under the Tories) - we sent people who had no right to be there on useless degrees. Then there's Gordon Brown's insane economic policy of just letting the city of London's financial sector get away with murder so he can get the tax and just go on a spending spree for public services(with no thought what so ever to any reform of them). Then there's mass immigration on a scale that the UK had never experienced before - causing mass racial tensions, wage suppression and huge strain of the infrastructure and public services of the UK.
There's no doubt that the media were very favourable to Blair(up until Iraq). If they hadn't of been and actually covered some of these things, then maybe Blair would of had a tougher time trying to implement these bad policies.
if i was in charge, britain would be sorted out within a week, believe me.
Get in line Bro!
That's also what poLIEticians tell us !
@@stephengirling7859 the difference is; i ain't no politician.
So what is this vision that you have for our future?
Indeed , id have the channel looking like Dunkirk in WW2 , but on a reverse journey.
It is no contradiction to be against abortion and in favour of the death penalty. One are innocent the other are convicted criminals.
I voted for Blair and I regretted it more than anything ever! Well at least now I’ve became aware of what’s going on and don’t rely on the main stream media
Canadians have got what they voted for!
An enlightening conversation, really! Thank you (both of you) for fighting the Good Fight!
I enjoyed this immensely
Before an abortion is enacted, the woman should be required to watch an MRI video of of what happens to the fetus during it killing & the distress it causes!
But that would mean a woman being accountable for her actions, and we all know they don’t do accountability.
It's one of the most distressing, horrendous and deeply heartbreaking things I've ever seen. I wish I could erase it from my memory.
That would only work for late term abortions
Porn is degenerate.
Many thanks to the NCF for all their extremely interesting and encouraging talks and discussions. The organisation's views and discussions appear to me to be well in touch with the public puls and hence quite probably resonate with the public's genuine mood. This talk here is, to my mind, a case in point. A further "upshot" from this discussion is the intellectual quality, humanity and .... attractiveness of the interviewer, Ms. Webb.
One of the most disturbing discussions. Excellent but so so sad.
Emma Webb is so articulate and intelligent,the best interviewer I have seen , respect !
An enjoyable and thoughtful conversation, thank you.
They view the fetus as if it were a tumor.
We now live in a world where a girl is allowed, even encouraged to have her womb, and all the life it could bring, removed, so that she/he can become a boy! There are many reasons to abort or not to abort. However, once that womb is gone, there is no life to come. It is irreversible. Would that Blair's policies could be made to disappear as quickly. Blair and his counterparts in other places, was responsible for many of the policies which allowed this to happen. What can the future hold?
John Deere letter!!!! Brilliant:-)
Haha yes it was a great and unexpected joke that got a chuckle from me.
Emma clearly never grew up with I-spy and Observer books on farming equipment.
They need quotas for intelligence, honesty and courage in MPs. I could never understand the media's love affair with Blair, for me every time he opened and continues to open his mouth it's like the proverbial nails down the chalkboard.
Great discussion.
Very engaging. The highlight of my week.
How nice to find a female Swiss Guard to conduct this interview. Her English is almost cuckoo-clock free.
:) I keep looking for her pole arm leaning against the wall :):)
Honest conversation.
Good stuff Emma. Clear and understandable.
All the clergy need to do in Canada, is say that they identify as trans woman, job done.
I was at school with Blair and he was always a Trot, extremely hard left and open about the importance of seizing power and presenting himself as a neo liberal when actually he was always hard left.
He is such a delight to watch and listen to.
great conversation.
Newspeak is a fantastic name
Thank God for this; hopefully they break it and give the kids life over women
If this happens, it will probably mean the birth rate in the states that ban abortion will increase as opposed to decrease and should make those states more prosperous over time. With the other states having to turn to immigrants to make up the numbers.
The birth “dearth” is more and more come to be seen as a threat to society. Immigration is a solution only when there is an excess of population, and those places are become fewer and fewer.
@@JRobbySh are you saying there isn't a birth rate problem in the world? If so I strongly disagree. This is a globalists view and I'm a nationalist and patriot.
@@JRobbySh plus if we have children of our own there will be less need for immigration.
A man who has been racist enough to wear blackface so often that he couldn't even say how many times is looking down on Christians dying on the battlefield having fought for his country
Sums up the subversive people that run this country
Who ? .
For God's sake, grow up about people wearing blackface. As a white person, I would not be offended if black people wore whiteface!
Let's not forget the private finance initiatives he introduced too
Thanks. Enjoyed that.