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How can you discuss this topic though and not go into the CBA situation coming probably in 2027. Is a salary cap, not a likely outcome of that situation? And if it is contracts will be grandfathered in at that point, which means the Dodgers will be in a situation to dominate for a decade as nobody would be able to put in contracts to compete with them due to a hard salary cap
Great take this time, Brodie-much better than saying, 'The Dodgers are putting the future on a credit card.' To expand on your point, free agency started right after the World Series in November 2024. If the 20+ middling and inactive teams had spent an extra $30-$50 million AAV-well within their budgets-there wouldn’t be any quality players left for the Dodgers to pursue in late January. Fans of those teams would love to see their ownership invest more in upgrades. That’s not the Dodgers' fault. Also, while there’s a soft cap in baseball, there really should be a soft floor to encourage competitive spending for salary. Plus, all the money the Dodgers spend above the CBT goes straight to the teams that aren’t spending. So what’s the excuse? What gives? Ask the other owners to open the books, lets see all those "losses".
Dodgers found out what Roki wanted most, which was pitching development. They showed up to the meeting with blue prints of the $100 million dollar bio mechanic pitching lab they are currently building in the stadium right now. Even better than the one at Wake Forest that all 30 teams recently went and visited. If that’s not an example of a well ran organization nothing is.
Do you read what you write after you have written it? “100 million dollar bio mechanic lab”… what in that statement explains why the Dodgers are a well run organization? A hedge fund is funding them, alongside Japanese money and the best TV deal in the league. Most of the other teams can’t outright afford a bio mechanic pitching lab… and they can’t afford it because the same Japanese players are going the same team, which means Japanese dollars only go to one team, to play for said Bio Mechanic pitching lab. You need liquid funds to run an organization. Not one owner except for maybe in Cohen in Queens, reached into his own pockets… not even the Dodgers.
The Dodgers, mainly when Guggenheim came on as owner, are a team that said, "Well, instead of fitting into a niche in the market and trying to be the best at that, what if we were just the best at everything?" Not only do they spend a lot, but they do it creatively and wisely in their investments (not only in players). They also have one of the most advanced analytics departments. They fix some guys' careers, taking players other teams have discarded and turning them into valuable players. Despite having to draft at the end of the pack every year, they maintain a top-rated minor league system. They make creative multi-team trades and cash in prospects when they need to. Players rave about their commitment to their families and the clubhouse culture. I mean, it goes on and on and on.
I think people forget just how bad for the McCourt years were for the Dodgers. During their tenure(2004-2011), the Dodgers only made it to the playoffs 3 times. Swept by the Mets in the 2006 NLDS; and gentlemens sweep to the Phillies in 08 and 09. The McCourts treated the team like a personal piggybank where they let the spring training facilities become neglected. The Guggenheim group turning this team around so fast is a testament of not just wealth, but what a smart leadership looks for a team. I
The Dodgers since Guggenheim took over: 2012: 2nd place, 2 games out of the wild card 2013: Lose NLCS 2014: Lose NLDS 2015: Lose NLDS 2016: Lose NLCS 2017: Lose World Series 2018: Lose World Series 4-1, sole victory an extra-innings marathon 2019: Lose NLDS 2020: Actual baseball season cancelled, Dodgers win Globe Life baseball tournament in Texas 2021: 2nd place, wild card winner, lose NLCS 2022: Lose NLDS 2023: Lose NLDS 2024: Win World Series 29 fan bases and the media: *Baseball is broken! This juggernaut must be stopped! Think of the children!* -Stop them from giving out these player friendly contracts before the fans wise up to the fact that our owners like money more than winning- (ignore that last part) Discounting the COVID year, the Dodgers are 5-5 in the NLDS, and 3-3 in the NLCS. They are 1-2 in the World Series. So far this season, they have acquired an infielder who was on no one's radar before the Dodgers signed him, they resigned some of their outfielders and relievers, and signed a reserve outfielder, two starting pitchers and two relievers. During the World Series, their sole loss was a bullpen game. They played a bullpen game in the World Series, because they only had three starters available due to an extreme number of injuries. Lots of people pointed this out and it was considered a major weakness of the team. Two of those three starters (Walker Beuhler, Jack Flaherty) became free agents after the season and needed to be replaced, one (Beuhler) has signed with another team already. So the Dodgers HAD to sign two starters, just to get back to the depleted numbers they had when the media was calling them out. Given that at least two of their losses to NY were the result of needing to rely on the bullpen, or a shortage of arms, due to the bullpen being overused, they needed to fix that, as well. This is not an invulnerable titan adding Hall of Famers to their bench. This is basically a team with a good, not spectacular, record last season, overcoming an overrated Padres team, an over-achieving Mets team and a grossly flawed Yankees team who cruised through a soft league, and they are just trying to patch their biggest holes. They got outbid for Juan Soto, money was not a factor with Sasaki, and possibly got Snell because after his last horrific experience with free agency, he wanted to get signed as fast as possible to a team with a good record of handling and improving flawed pitchers.
You this will only cause teams like the A’s to say well we don’t have a chance Spend less. And guess what over 2/3 of the MLB is going to spend less this season on payroll than last. Now is that good for the MLB.
As a Jays fan, I'm not mad at the Dodgers, and if there's an argument to be made that it's "Bad For Baseball" it should come from my camp based on Ohtani, Teoscar, and Sasaki. They played by the rules that MLB defined, they're privately funded, they're investing in their team on every level, and they're not using public money. There's nothing stopping any other team, including the Jays, from doing the same things. Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
The Dodgers spend 60% of their revenues on the payroll. The Blue Jays spend 75% of their revenues on payroll which is only second to the NY Mets at 87%. The Dodgers had a payroll of $330 million but their revenues are $549 million.
Its all about bargaining. Have to give something to get something. If owners have to pay a minimum amount they will have to get something they deem equal value from the players. The compromise would probably be a cap and the players would never agree to that so i wouldnt hold your breath on either
Tampa had an estimated revenues of $300 million thanks to revenue sharing and the national tv contract but on spent $100 million on player salaries or 33% of revenues.
Well it is hard to spend if players don't want to go. That's why I keep saying it is bad for baseball if the Dodgers can just sign everyone. Giants have tried to get players and spend so that is not always the issue and revenue does not mean profit. The disparity in local TV revenue is the main issue.
@@scotttild I agree with you, Blue Jays would like to spend big bucks, but they almost never manage to drag anyone to Canada. Though some teams are penny-pinching hard.
@@scotttildwhile it’s not a guarantee, a lot of teams who aren’t as wealthy could invest in their stadium , facilities, and give more perks to players. Find other ways to win players over other than a bidding war. We saw that the Yankees didn’t want to give Soto a suite for his family, but the Mets immediately said yes. Those little things could sway players to join you.
Thank you Brodie! Teams should be spending at least HALF the revenue collected from the past season. The Mets actually spent more on salaries than their total revenue.
I also want to mention about deferrals. Dodgers are being labeled the deferral team right now. But the real culprit is the unicorn player who decided to defer most of his contract money. Rumor says he wanted to defer ALL OF HIS PAYMENTS but was told he can't because of rules. The thing to know about deferrals is PLAYERS DO NOT WANT DEFERRALS on their contracts. but this one dude from Japan wanted to do this to all his money so he could pass the benefit to the team to be able to make a winning roster. Ohtani had offered this same contract structure to the Blue Jays, SF Giants and NY Yankees. Some of these teams would not get the ball rolling and will just pocket the money like the Angels did to Ohtani for many years. You are not going to see something like this happen again whether MLB creates new rules or not to deferrals because you're not going to get another generational player that will defer 90% of his contract money. They'll most likely just another Soto that wants to get paid over trying to win with a team.
Broadly agree-but I think the statement about players wanting or not wanting deferrals is a bit nuanced and not black and white. They certainly don’t want to defer 100% but some of it? Probably depends on the location and local income taxes, the structure of the deferrals and how it accrues interest and to which party’s benefit, what if any signing bonus is offered to offset some of the lack of cash flow, etc. Pay me sufficiently up front and give me a nice bit of a sweet back end after my playing days are over? There’s knobs to turn where it becomes compelling for sure. Just not Ohtani levels - that man plays to a totally different set of rules in part because he’s Ohtani and because he frankly can.
Difference is Ohtani is earning a lot outside of baseball. The closest 1 in terms of earning thru endorsements I think is Aaron Judge with about $4M which is probably like only 1/10 or lower of what ohtani earns via endorsements.
I’m a Red Sox fan, but after the Dodgers were cheated out of two World Series titles, I have no issue with them outspending everyone and anyone. Just goes to prove how cheap most of the other owners are. The Dodgers are currently in their Golden Age, and they absolutely should maximize their championship window.
Looking around the leagues, it appears that the largest payroll spending gaps are: $32 million in the NHL, $45 million in the NFL, $97 million in the NBA, and $237 million in MLB. Yeah, the gap in MLB from top to bottom is more than every other league combined. I've seen a lot of arguments in the comments that blame the problem on small market owners that don't spend enough on their payrolls. Sure, small market teams should spend more money, but what will that accomplish? The only thing that will happen if small market teams start spending more is that large market teams will just have to spend a little more to outbid them. I seen one guy proposing that teams should spend at least half of the revenue they collected during the past season. Looking at the numbers from 2023... Mets spent 83% of their revenue Yankees, spent 41% Padres spent 73% Rangers spent 59% Phillies spent 53% Dodgers spent 44% Astros spent 53% Angels spent 58% Blue Jays spent 65% Braves spent 43% Cubs spent 37% Giants spent 42% Red Sox spent 36% Rockies spent 55% White Sox spent 56% Twins spent 45% Cardinals spent 41% Mariners spent 31% Tigers spent 39% Diamondbacks spent 37% Brewers spent 36% Marlins spent 36% Royals spent 31% Reds spent 30% Nationals spent 26% Indians spent 28% Rays spent 25% Pirates spent 24% Orioles spent 21% A's spent 26% So, of 30 teams... 9 teams spent 50% or more of their revenue 15 teams spent 40% or less. Of the teams that spent less than 40% in 2023, at least five were "large market" teams. The Marlins and Red Sox spent the same percentage of their revenue on their payroll. Looking at the numbers, you have the usual suspects at the bottom, but you also have the Cubs, Red Sox, Mariners, Nationals, and Tigers slumming along with them. Then you have the usual suspects at the top of spending (Yankees, Dodgers and Braves) sitting at around 40%. Maybe the league should, at a minimum, institute a minimum of 40% and a maximum of 50%? Imagine if the Yankees spent 83% of their revenue like the Mets have. This isn't a "Dodgers" problem and they shouldn't be hated for doing something that they're able to do under current MLB rules, but MLB, imho, needs to get this under control because eventually fans of small market teams that are out of playoff contention in Spring Training are just going to stop giving a shit all-together. In the age of the internet and 24/7 media coverage of everything, what incentive is there for being a fan of the "home team" that can't compete when you can just be a Yankees or Dodgers fan and consistently buy the best players and ALWAYS be in contention for a championship?
The Mets spending 83% of revenue on players salaries means they are losing money. Team have other expenses such as coaches, front office personnel, scouts, travel expenses, medical and training staff, stadium ground keepers. But Steve Cohen is worth $20 billion and probably doesn’t mind losing millions.
@ I believe that theoretically, small markets CAN spend more than they're spending, but it's easier to spend 40% of your revenue on payroll when you're bringing in $700 million dollars vs. $200 million. MLB's financial system is a joke and has been for a long time.
Aside from the money issue with the other teams, the Dodgers also attract players in other ways. Player Development, Analytics, playing environment, culture and so on. The Dodgers since the mid 2000’s have created a place a lot of players want to be a part of. There’s a lot of teams in the league who fail at a majority of that, if not in all aspects.
Yeah, but having 2 teams Yankees and Dodgers with way more payroll or driving up the payroll of course is bad for Baseball. I'm a Dodger fan, but it's better for the game if the Padres, D'Backs are competitive too. You want parity-have some of these greedy Free Agents go to the White Sox.
It always bothered me that the Yankees spent so much but the way the Dodgers are running their franchise and Dodger Stadium with fans in mind. I like their business model and I like their teams. I still, to this day, hate the Yankees.
Iconic and historically good team uses their money to constantly win, LA: 😊!!! Iconic and historically good team uses their money to constantly win, NY 🤬!!!
Great video, Brodie. I've been a Dodger fan since 1977 and I've lived through five different ownerships of my team: Walter O'Malley; Peter O'Malley and Terry Seidler; the Fox Entertainment Group; Frank McCourt; and finally, Guggenheim. The Fox group had no direction for the team and they let Piazza go. Frank McCourt used the team as his own personal ATM. Fans like me wanted the team to spend money but they wouldn't. The Dodgers were HORRIBLE and players didn't want to play for the team. The Dodgers were so bad, that in 2006 I bought tickets next to Larry King for CHEAP! Now, Guggenheim: they have been amazing! They're giving back to us, the fans, by putting together a team that not only wins, it has become a desirable destination for star players and a global brand. Players rave about how well the front office treats them and their families. I was envious of the Yankees back in the 1990s and now, we're the "evil empire." After all the years of mediocrity, I'll take the hate. A salary floor is the way to go. Maybe other teams can't spend like the Dodgers, but a salary floor can at least make them try to put a quality product on the field for their fans.
You're not the Evil Empire, you're the High Republic, the landscape is just primitive and you one of the few that desired something better and woke up but nature is an ass
Hardcore Dodger fan here who enjoys your channel - I appreciate your objective viewpoint on this! Some organizations leave the competition on the field, but others also want their front offices and ownerships to compete too! As the saying goes - don't hate the player, hate the game!
My dad used to say "if you want to make money you have spend money, but spend it wisely". Dammit I wish the Mariners would pay attention to what the Dodgers do.
11:18 you basically summed the situation my Tampa Bays Rays are in. They refuse to do any big signing and by the time they have to pay their guys they trade them away. And with this whole stadium debacle I don’t even know if the Rays will stay in St Pete
As a former Oakland A’s fan, we were on the extreme cheapskate side of baseball. Fisher spent the bare minimum and still is spending the bare minimum to keep the league off his back. This is why I have no issue with the Dodgers spending all this money. I get it, they are a top 2 market, the ownership group is insanely wealthy, but there are still plenty of other wealthy billionaires in MLB but they simply aren’t willing to spend. I mentioned this to Giants fans as well, now the Giants got the entire Bay Area market to themselves (which is insane) but they still decided to slash payroll. Hard for me to feel bad for the Giants organization after they helped Fisher get the A’s out of Oakland
We Dodger fans enjoy all the whining because just last year they were saying the Dodgers were chokers and all that. Now it's about payroll. It's pathetic and sad they can't direct their ire at their own team and have to be mad at the Dodgers instead.
That point of exercising is spot on, imagine hating someone for being fit because they train/exercise harder than everyone else. Meanwhile you just lying down complaining about them 😂 "we need exercise cap, maximum 2 hours per day because I'm lazy" 😂
Some of it might be a good point. There are definitely teams like the Pirates where the owners are trying to pocket every single cent and don't care about the on-field product. But a lot of the other teams are not spending less because they don't want to work as hard; they're spending less because they literally can't afford it. Keep the exercise metaphor: this is a competition that puts the equivalent of The Rock, with 9 figures and endless amounts of time to work on his physique, versus someone working 3 jobs that can still barely afford their Planet Fitness membership.
Spectrum Cable company pays the Dodgers a lot of money to show them on a special television channel, you have to buy a cable package to watch them on TV.
Not sure a "dynasty" is bad for professional sports. The Yankees and Celtics were dynasties. I absolutely HATE a three game playoff series in any sport. But in a way, that hurts the team with the most talent which looks like will ALWAYS be the Dodgers with this present system. As the Dodgers are constructed it would be difficult to beat them in any seven game series.
Idk why people are complaining now because they finally won in a full season ? The dodgers are the odds on betting favorite pretty much every year going back to 2013 the 5 game series has always been controversial for being a lottery of sorts but that’s the trade off you make for entertainment it’s a business and the mlb playoffs are maybe the most exciting in all of sports second to march madness
What the Dodgers are doing is what we should be seeing across the board instead of teams cheating in the World Series and not get punished or teams being allowed to play politics and rip teams out of established markets
Brodie, love your videos. Just a minor correction. Guggenheim Partners has $335B in "assets under management," which is not all theirs. That's the total that they are managing, largely for their clients. But your point stands, Guggenheim has a lot of money and the Dodgers generate a lot of money.
The Dodgers were a well-run organization for years. Their streak of making it to the playoffs shows that. But nobody cared until Shohei broke baseball by his ridiculous contract. While only being paid $2 mil and earning his team $100 mil emboldened a great organization to go all in for talent and re-investment.
Right, but isn’t the point of deferral to clear up money right away to make the deal?Wouldn’t that imply that the deferral money doesn’t exist at the moment?
@@connercoughran4677Not really. The point of deferrals is to reduce the AAV for salary calculations. The Dodgers actually have to put the deferred money into escrow as it comes due, so in essence, even though the salary is deferred, they still have to have it. Deferrals are a way to manipulate the luxury tax calculation more than anything else
Great point Brodie !!! Wondering If they where still in Brooklyn would it matter? With their ownership, I’m guessing not. I miss the Haas family, they had heart and soul. Unlike the fish, just greedy & heartless.
The next CBA will definitely shape the future popularity of the MLB. Total deferred money limits and a salary floor need to be at the forefront of discussion to reinstall a shred of hope for disgruntled fans of smaller market teams. I’m already envisioning a lockout for 2027 b/c the negotiations will be very heated for a more level playing field from a collective economics standpoint. The owners want a cap but the players likely don’t. Some player reps for smaller market teams would desire a salary floor, but the cheap owners won’t comply. It’s a giant mess and an unwillingness to adapt to a new economic model could put MLB into a true decline.
The league shouldn’t punish the dodgers for actively supporting their business/team. It’s like blaming a student who actually studies & prepares for class and gets A’s in the class. But the media now wants to help the teams who gets F’s, who doesn’t spend/invest in their business/teams, at the same time make it way harder to get the A.
The bad for baseball reference is only coming from New Yorkers and east coast media and fans. The media in that region are basically Yankee or Mets fans so very biased opinions and articles.
Its not even about the money anymore. They are all signing there regardless. Tanner Scott was offered more by two other teams and signed with LA. These players just want to create a super team and take the easy route to a championship.
An amaxing video for MLB fans. Thought #6 should be said digested so that we have no constipated fans ranting. Owners( many in MLB) want to keep their so that they can make easy money from Luxury tax and Revenue Sharing - National TV rights and Local TV rights( 48 PC needs to be shared by MLB teams to others). Hope this moves MLB fans to push fro their team owners to spend money on Players, Marketing, Local community additions( whatever form they want it to be).
A salary cap will not make teams like the pirates,Rockies, marlins etc competitive because they are just a poorly ran team from top to bottom and you will find something else to complain about when shit is still the same and the central divisions still suck ass but now instead you have dick sucked incompetent leadership and continue to let them have participation trophies
Well, they're not, lol. MLB attendance increased for the third straight year in 2024 and viewership hit a high not reached since 2017 in the US. That's not even mentioning the international market, ie, Japan.
Subscriber here, and I have a few thoughts: - Other teams have tried to strike similar or even richer deals with players (see the Tanner Scott signing as the most recent example) but so many players are choosing to go to LA, and LA can afford anyone they want. Teams are simply not able to compete in free agency, and that's not due to a lack of money or trying, but a lack of a "winning culture". You have to spend money to make money, but that doesn't work if no one is taking your money. - Is there any point where these signings go too far? Does that limit not exist? What if they Dodgers end up winning every WS for the next decade (I know baseball is more "random" than other sports, this is just a thought experiment), is that still "good for baseball" somehow? - If you try to argue from a marketing perspective that the Dodgers being so loaded with talent is good to get more people watching the playoffs, I would counter that it would only work if they make it to the WS every year (a bad thing for every other NL team). By that same logic, if they get eliminated early on, many would tune out (a bad thing for fan interest). This is a lose-lose, playoff starpower should be distributed across different teams. - The teams that don't spend anything/have a careless ownership group are ALSO bad for baseball, both of these things can be true! I'm of the opinion that we need both a salary floor and a salary cap (or at least a limit on deferrals & more strict luxury tax).
Jimmy from Chicago….Hi Brodie!….All your excellent points well taken….but overall bad for baseball….335 billion in assets??? ……the Have and have nots simplifying matters….Most teams cannot compete with actions like this…Love the show!!!…..Thank you!!!😊😊😊
I'm a dodgers fan and I appreciate your take on this video. I just subscribed looking forward to your future videos. As far as all the hate, I'm seeing towards my team. I don't really give a blip because we had to go through the McCourt years. We had to go through horrible ownership and many, many years of. Substandard care. I'm really looking forward to this season. To see how this all plays out. But one thing is for sure. I'm not gonna feel guilty or sorry for the other teams. That won't spend yet to go through the Yankees evil Empire era and that was also good for baseball. So we'll see what happens, but one last note. The dodgers are doing this for their fans. When you go to other ballparks, you see so much dodger. Blue, and this is really an ownership that is giving back to the people that i'm stood by them for so long period go dodgers.
Here in "Birdland", we got a new owner now and he's wants to spend big time money. And, I have seen NOTHING that suggests that the Orioles are winning a World Series sooner or later. Yeah upgrades to OPACY is nice, but it means nothing if you don't have a quality product on the diamond. Our farm system ranking even dropped down from the #1 spot.
It's hard for me to complain being a mets fan. But I don't like spending that much on soto. The deferrals the Dodgers are doing isn't cool either. But the players want to play there so it's their choice
The truth is, Giant fans are to loyal. The team’s ownership can do whatever the Dodgers can, as any team can. However, the Giants’ ownership doesn’t care about winning; they only care about revenue. Therefore, why should the Giants spend money when people are going to watch a poor product? If fans stop attending games, the Giants might start spending more.
It’s a business… the difference is that the Dodgers business is garnering 300+ million in TV money, untold amounts of Japanese money and they are run by hedge funds of upwards of 100+ billion dollars. You have to be a fool to compare the Giants to the Dodgers spending power. Only the Mets can afford to do what the Dodgers do.. and that’s with Stevie going into his own pocket. The Dodgers owners never touch their own pockets.
We are talking baseball now. This is good for bball. They ended the ws with 1 sp into 2025. They had to add sps. Conforto, the korean player and two relief pitchers is really their true acquisitions. Nothing compared to soto.
The odds are zero that the Pirates will even get into the playoffs. It's a broken system, and at the best - get ready for a lockout. Perhaps a long one.
I'm more surprised the players association supports deferred payouts, since present value of these deferred contracts is much smaller than it seems. Shohei's $700 million to $460-ish in today's dollars? I'm surprised every team isn't pushing to do contracts that way with every player.
Spend because they can, who wouldn't. Being in the big market they have access to much more revenue than most others. The problem in the MLB system. It has a set up Haves and Have Nots. So, the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Giants will thrive while many others will get maybe that one good run every 20 years while otherwise being in a rebuild, develop their players that ultimately will sign with a big money team. Why a salary floor is needed.
I’m all about a salary floor (I think that was one of the questions I asked you last year haha) Thoughts on deferred salary slots in the future? (Almost like a buyout candidate in the NHL)
It is bad for baseball by vastly exacerbating the systemic competitive inequity. We will find out that the other owners will not allow the system to continue as is with the next CBA after the 2026 season. Low- and mid-revenue owners have the numbers.
It’s not bad for baseball lmao. The dodgers in World Series brought the most watched World Series in years (2017). It’s even brought whole country in and they watched it more than United States in total. Not only that dodgers are making all of these moves. Not only showing how bad these small market owners are at pocketing money and not competing. That’s what’s bad for baseball. But these moves dodgers are making is making everyone talk about baseball bringing more eyes to the sport. It’s making baseball relevant again. This wasn’t some over night thing people make this out to be. The dodgers have been at this for past 11 yrs. Working to get better on every end. Now they finally ready to profit off of everything they have built in those years. Can’t hate them for it. They were at brunt of everyone jokes. Now they can actually prove everyone wrong. People are crying unfair. Shouldn’t have let the astros cheat and get away with it 2017. Shouldn’t have mocked the dodgers for losing in the playoffs. Shouldn’t have mocked their 2020 World Series. Everyone had a chance to win it. 60 game World Series is a lot harder you don’t have time to sit around to get hot. You had to be hot immediately cause your games are so limited. So now they went out and finally built around and improved what they need. Everyone crying and complaining. Just saying you guys did this. Other teams did this because they let their key people go. Dodgers profit from it. Can’t hate them. They have done everything right.
Supporting terrible incompetent owners like Reinsdorf,Fisher,Loria and whoever the Rockies owner is pathetic and you have been fooled into thinking that a salary cap will make these teams more competitive when in fact they are just shit run teams that pocket revenue
@barkobongo7196 I just don't think it's an issue of stealing CBT money. That's highly monitored. The issue is revenue. Payroll is only a part of expenses. Local TV money is also stagnant or declining. This is a systemic issue for an association of teams that supposedly desire competition.
If you don’t think this is bad for the league look at every others team payroll for 2023 to 2024. Most teams are spending less in 24. That’s the sad reality more owners will now be able to spin it as we have zero chance so let’s save for “later”
Salary FLOOR eliminates much of this angst. As for the deferred money talk, the Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla... that's on the other owners being asleep at the switch regarding the deferred money
Do you know what deferred money means? It means a discount on future value. That means players willing to take less money. No one is taking less money to go to Pittsburgh. No one is taking less money to go to Arizona. But everyone is taking less money to go to the Dodgers. THATS THE PROBLEM! And before you say that deferred payments are not what I said that they are… understand inflation vs interest and present value vs future value.
MLB as an office allows one team to go homeless & ask for local handouts, while MLBs other teams spend more for one or two players than a new stadium. Doesnt sit right with me a professional sports league
They are probably done spending, now starts the trade process. They need to trade for Mason Miller before closing out the off-season.They have a top three farm system in all of baseball to trade from
Its not the dodgers fault, its mlb’s fault for allowing loopholes, also a lot of other teams simply cannot match the dodgers spending power. Baseball does need a salary cap to even the field, currently its a handful of teams ruling the game, which to neutrals is boring. The game is mainly played in half full grounds, tv deals failing, but the game is about greed pure and simple, players on $30million a season arguing about an extra million, hence why I love minor league baseball. Thanks for the great video.
While the other teams are losing their TV money, the Dodgers are getting paid by Spectrum Sports cable TV service a lot of money. I think it 280 million dollars per year, you have to have the cable service to watch the Dodgers. They are nowhere else on TV- EXCEPT those games that are considered national games. Like Fox, ESPN, Tuner, MLB network not sure.
@@williamford9564 I think he should have said "You missed _which_ teams are just sitting..." The comments seem to identify the Pirates and the Rays, but there are undoubtedly a few more.
The teams are making money. Its not about the game anymore, its about the business. If Manfred was commish in the 90s he would have done nothing about the steroids as long as the owners make money.
As a Texas Rangers fan, I don't like the Yankees, Dodgers, Houston or the Florida teams, now me not liking the Florida teams is for a different reason then my dislike for the Yankees and Dodgers also my dislike for Houston is for a different reason then my reasons for the other I dislike If you want me to go in depth on why I dislike Yankees, Dodgers, Houston and the Florida teams I can
Trust me there’s LOTS of things that are currently bad for baseball; all of this is not even in the top 20. John Fisher (& Other bad owners) Tropicana Field situation Miami Marlins home turnout LA Angels future Arizona’s stadium concerns Fan Attendance Regional broadcasting fallout Duration of time in a baseball game Other owners NOT spending Pitching injuries & durability Impending Collective Bargaining Agreement Performance enhancers White Sox tanking Other Astro-like cheating scenarios Umpires The future of Minor Leagues Baseball Uniform quality HOF Voting (Ichiro) All-Star selection process Rob Manfred Rob Manfred’s “innovative ideas” I’m certain there’s more than that.
Thanks for the video Brodie! I think the financial part is not fairly managed in this field. I think salaries should be coverd by plast incomes. But how know what would work... Bytheway did anyone see already the 6. episodes of this new animation serie? Its start with a baseball scene... funny actions. th-cam.com/video/0Pp-LFb5qFE/w-d-xo.html
Dodgers spend smartly while the Mets went the opposite direction. A half of Shohei who only DH is much better than Soto, yet the Mets paid him more than Shohei. Do they even know how to do math?
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Do we know roughly how much their Luxury Tax is going to be for this season? They’re close enough for an estimate by now.
I find it hard you believe the richest/largest team having a monopoly is “good for baseball”
just because other teams don’t spend enough?
How can you discuss this topic though and not go into the CBA situation coming probably in 2027.
Is a salary cap, not a likely outcome of that situation? And if it is contracts will be grandfathered in at that point, which means the Dodgers will be in a situation to dominate for a decade as nobody would be able to put in contracts to compete with them due to a hard salary cap
@@n2da9 Monopoly? based on what?
Great take this time, Brodie-much better than saying, 'The Dodgers are putting the future on a credit card.' To expand on your point, free agency started right after the World Series in November 2024. If the 20+ middling and inactive teams had spent an extra $30-$50 million AAV-well within their budgets-there wouldn’t be any quality players left for the Dodgers to pursue in late January. Fans of those teams would love to see their ownership invest more in upgrades. That’s not the Dodgers' fault.
Also, while there’s a soft cap in baseball, there really should be a soft floor to encourage competitive spending for salary. Plus, all the money the Dodgers spend above the CBT goes straight to the teams that aren’t spending. So what’s the excuse? What gives? Ask the other owners to open the books, lets see all those "losses".
Dodgers found out what Roki wanted most, which was pitching development. They showed up to the meeting with blue prints of the $100 million dollar bio mechanic pitching lab they are currently building in the stadium right now. Even better than the one at Wake Forest that all 30 teams recently went and visited. If that’s not an example of a well ran organization nothing is.
Meanwhile, the Lakers which Guggenheim has 27%, is ran like a trash mom and pop shop for a family of morons, hate it
Do you read what you write after you have written it? “100 million dollar bio mechanic lab”… what in that statement explains why the Dodgers are a well run organization? A hedge fund is funding them, alongside Japanese money and the best TV deal in the league. Most of the other teams can’t outright afford a bio mechanic pitching lab… and they can’t afford it because the same Japanese players are going the same team, which means Japanese dollars only go to one team, to play for said Bio Mechanic pitching lab. You need liquid funds to run an organization. Not one owner except for maybe in Cohen in Queens, reached into his own pockets… not even the Dodgers.
@ cry more
The Dodgers, mainly when Guggenheim came on as owner, are a team that said, "Well, instead of fitting into a niche in the market and trying to be the best at that, what if we were just the best at everything?" Not only do they spend a lot, but they do it creatively and wisely in their investments (not only in players). They also have one of the most advanced analytics departments. They fix some guys' careers, taking players other teams have discarded and turning them into valuable players. Despite having to draft at the end of the pack every year, they maintain a top-rated minor league system. They make creative multi-team trades and cash in prospects when they need to. Players rave about their commitment to their families and the clubhouse culture. I mean, it goes on and on and on.
A return to The Dodger Way, a concept that was forgotten during the McCourt years.
I think people forget just how bad for the McCourt years were for the Dodgers. During their tenure(2004-2011), the Dodgers only made it to the playoffs 3 times. Swept by the Mets in the 2006 NLDS; and gentlemens sweep to the Phillies in 08 and 09. The McCourts treated the team like a personal piggybank where they let the spring training facilities become neglected. The Guggenheim group turning this team around so fast is a testament of not just wealth, but what a smart leadership looks for a team.
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@@ronaldwayne7092 Not just the McCourt years, but the Fox years as well.
The Dodgers since Guggenheim took over:
2012: 2nd place, 2 games out of the wild card
2013: Lose NLCS
2014: Lose NLDS
2015: Lose NLDS
2016: Lose NLCS
2017: Lose World Series
2018: Lose World Series 4-1, sole victory an extra-innings marathon
2019: Lose NLDS
2020: Actual baseball season cancelled, Dodgers win Globe Life baseball tournament in Texas
2021: 2nd place, wild card winner, lose NLCS
2022: Lose NLDS
2023: Lose NLDS
2024: Win World Series
29 fan bases and the media: *Baseball is broken! This juggernaut must be stopped! Think of the children!* -Stop them from giving out these player friendly contracts before the fans wise up to the fact that our owners like money more than winning- (ignore that last part)
Discounting the COVID year, the Dodgers are 5-5 in the NLDS, and 3-3 in the NLCS. They are 1-2 in the World Series. So far this season, they have acquired an infielder who was on no one's radar before the Dodgers signed him, they resigned some of their outfielders and relievers, and signed a reserve outfielder, two starting pitchers and two relievers. During the World Series, their sole loss was a bullpen game. They played a bullpen game in the World Series, because they only had three starters available due to an extreme number of injuries. Lots of people pointed this out and it was considered a major weakness of the team. Two of those three starters (Walker Beuhler, Jack Flaherty) became free agents after the season and needed to be replaced, one (Beuhler) has signed with another team already. So the Dodgers HAD to sign two starters, just to get back to the depleted numbers they had when the media was calling them out. Given that at least two of their losses to NY were the result of needing to rely on the bullpen, or a shortage of arms, due to the bullpen being overused, they needed to fix that, as well.
This is not an invulnerable titan adding Hall of Famers to their bench. This is basically a team with a good, not spectacular, record last season, overcoming an overrated Padres team, an over-achieving Mets team and a grossly flawed Yankees team who cruised through a soft league, and they are just trying to patch their biggest holes. They got outbid for Juan Soto, money was not a factor with Sasaki, and possibly got Snell because after his last horrific experience with free agency, he wanted to get signed as fast as possible to a team with a good record of handling and improving flawed pitchers.
As a former fan of the Oakland As its refreshing to see a team do what the Fisher ownership group could never imagine.
Los Angeles has an $8 billion tv contract over 25 years
You this will only cause teams like the A’s to say well we don’t have a chance Spend less. And guess what over 2/3 of the MLB is going to spend less this season on payroll than last. Now is that good for the MLB.
As a Jays fan, I'm not mad at the Dodgers, and if there's an argument to be made that it's "Bad For Baseball" it should come from my camp based on Ohtani, Teoscar, and Sasaki. They played by the rules that MLB defined, they're privately funded, they're investing in their team on every level, and they're not using public money. There's nothing stopping any other team, including the Jays, from doing the same things.
Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
The Dodgers spend 60% of their revenues on the payroll. The Blue Jays spend 75% of their revenues on payroll which is only second to the NY Mets at 87%. The Dodgers had a payroll of $330 million but their revenues are $549 million.
I’ve been saying there should be a salary floor in MLB for years. No excuse for a team having a salary under 100 million.
Its all about bargaining. Have to give something to get something. If owners have to pay a minimum amount they will have to get something they deem equal value from the players.
The compromise would probably be a cap and the players would never agree to that so i wouldnt hold your breath on either
Tampa had an estimated revenues of $300 million thanks to revenue sharing and the national tv contract but on spent $100 million on player salaries or 33% of revenues.
Well it is hard to spend if players don't want to go. That's why I keep saying it is bad for baseball if the Dodgers can just sign everyone. Giants have tried to get players and spend so that is not always the issue and revenue does not mean profit. The disparity in local TV revenue is the main issue.
@@scotttild I agree with you, Blue Jays would like to spend big bucks, but they almost never manage to drag anyone to Canada. Though some teams are penny-pinching hard.
@@scotttildwhile it’s not a guarantee, a lot of teams who aren’t as wealthy could invest in their stadium , facilities, and give more perks to players. Find other ways to win players over other than a bidding war. We saw that the Yankees didn’t want to give Soto a suite for his family, but the Mets immediately said yes. Those little things could sway players to join you.
You know what is bad for baseball, letting teams openly cheat in the WS and not punish them. Guess you should not have pissed the Dodgers off.....
You are so right. And MLB going light on the Red Sox and Astros cheating really pisses me off. Manfred is the worst commissioner ever!
Seriously. That just quietly went away
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@@adk7962 I don't know what this means?
@@oiler62 These are the only trash can emojis I could find. 😬
Keep in mind that the Dodgers should have won the 2017 World Series but lost a very close series to a cheating Astros team.
The Dodgers only win because they buy Championships if there was a real salary cap like other sports baseball would be fun to watch.
2018 too
Thank you Brodie! Teams should be spending at least HALF the revenue collected from the past season. The Mets actually spent more on salaries than their total revenue.
I also want to mention about deferrals. Dodgers are being labeled the deferral team right now. But the real culprit is the unicorn player who decided to defer most of his contract money. Rumor says he wanted to defer ALL OF HIS PAYMENTS but was told he can't because of rules. The thing to know about deferrals is PLAYERS DO NOT WANT DEFERRALS on their contracts. but this one dude from Japan wanted to do this to all his money so he could pass the benefit to the team to be able to make a winning roster. Ohtani had offered this same contract structure to the Blue Jays, SF Giants and NY Yankees. Some of these teams would not get the ball rolling and will just pocket the money like the Angels did to Ohtani for many years. You are not going to see something like this happen again whether MLB creates new rules or not to deferrals because you're not going to get another generational player that will defer 90% of his contract money. They'll most likely just another Soto that wants to get paid over trying to win with a team.
Broadly agree-but I think the statement about players wanting or not wanting deferrals is a bit nuanced and not black and white. They certainly don’t want to defer 100% but some of it? Probably depends on the location and local income taxes, the structure of the deferrals and how it accrues interest and to which party’s benefit, what if any signing bonus is offered to offset some of the lack of cash flow, etc. Pay me sufficiently up front and give me a nice bit of a sweet back end after my playing days are over? There’s knobs to turn where it becomes compelling for sure. Just not Ohtani levels - that man plays to a totally different set of rules in part because he’s Ohtani and because he frankly can.
Difference is Ohtani is earning a lot outside of baseball. The closest 1 in terms of earning thru endorsements I think is Aaron Judge with about $4M which is probably like only 1/10 or lower of what ohtani earns via endorsements.
Objective, truthful, concise and clear.... couldn't expect less from you.
I’m a Red Sox fan, but after the Dodgers were cheated out of two World Series titles, I have no issue with them outspending everyone and anyone. Just goes to prove how cheap most of the other owners are. The Dodgers are currently in their Golden Age, and they absolutely should maximize their championship window.
Looking around the leagues, it appears that the largest payroll spending gaps are: $32 million in the NHL, $45 million in the NFL, $97 million in the NBA, and $237 million in MLB. Yeah, the gap in MLB from top to bottom is more than every other league combined.
I've seen a lot of arguments in the comments that blame the problem on small market owners that don't spend enough on their payrolls. Sure, small market teams should spend more money, but what will that accomplish? The only thing that will happen if small market teams start spending more is that large market teams will just have to spend a little more to outbid them.
I seen one guy proposing that teams should spend at least half of the revenue they collected during the past season. Looking at the numbers from 2023...
Mets spent 83% of their revenue
Yankees, spent 41%
Padres spent 73%
Rangers spent 59%
Phillies spent 53%
Dodgers spent 44%
Astros spent 53%
Angels spent 58%
Blue Jays spent 65%
Braves spent 43%
Cubs spent 37%
Giants spent 42%
Red Sox spent 36%
Rockies spent 55%
White Sox spent 56%
Twins spent 45%
Cardinals spent 41%
Mariners spent 31%
Tigers spent 39%
Diamondbacks spent 37%
Brewers spent 36%
Marlins spent 36%
Royals spent 31%
Reds spent 30%
Nationals spent 26%
Indians spent 28%
Rays spent 25%
Pirates spent 24%
Orioles spent 21%
A's spent 26%
So, of 30 teams...
9 teams spent 50% or more of their revenue
15 teams spent 40% or less.
Of the teams that spent less than 40% in 2023, at least five were "large market" teams. The Marlins and Red Sox spent the same percentage of their revenue on their payroll.
Looking at the numbers, you have the usual suspects at the bottom, but you also have the Cubs, Red Sox, Mariners, Nationals, and Tigers slumming along with them. Then you have the usual suspects at the top of spending (Yankees, Dodgers and Braves) sitting at around 40%.
Maybe the league should, at a minimum, institute a minimum of 40% and a maximum of 50%?
Imagine if the Yankees spent 83% of their revenue like the Mets have.
This isn't a "Dodgers" problem and they shouldn't be hated for doing something that they're able to do under current MLB rules, but MLB, imho, needs to get this under control because eventually fans of small market teams that are out of playoff contention in Spring Training are just going to stop giving a shit all-together. In the age of the internet and 24/7 media coverage of everything, what incentive is there for being a fan of the "home team" that can't compete when you can just be a Yankees or Dodgers fan and consistently buy the best players and ALWAYS be in contention for a championship?
The Mets spending 83% of revenue on players salaries means they are losing money. Team have other expenses such as coaches, front office personnel, scouts, travel expenses, medical and training staff, stadium ground keepers. But Steve Cohen is worth $20 billion and probably doesn’t mind losing millions.
Structurally small markets can’t spend!
@ gotta love a guy that's willing to lose money to win. It'd be worth the loss if he knew how to win.
@ I believe that theoretically, small markets CAN spend more than they're spending, but it's easier to spend 40% of your revenue on payroll when you're bringing in $700 million dollars vs. $200 million.
MLB's financial system is a joke and has been for a long time.
Aside from the money issue with the other teams, the Dodgers also attract players in other ways. Player Development, Analytics, playing environment, culture and so on. The Dodgers since the mid 2000’s have created a place a lot of players want to be a part of. There’s a lot of teams in the league who fail at a majority of that, if not in all aspects.
Don't forget, 2017- Astros Trash Can Sign Stealing was at 7 games WS Lost and 2018 Red Sox also doing sign stealing in the Dodgers WS Loss.
Exactly those are 2 World Series. We should have won so can you imagine if you add in 2020 and 2024? What a dynasty that would be, great point
@@katarinaneuhartk4900what about 2019 2022 2023 y’all boys are punks and got lucky y’all didn’t face no real team this year
As a life longer Dodger fan (53 years) I’m not mad.
Why would a player not want to play for the Dodgers?
Scott and Yates were on the market for months and no team wanted to sign them.
Yeah, but having 2 teams Yankees and Dodgers with way more payroll or driving up the payroll of course is bad for Baseball. I'm a Dodger fan, but it's better for the game if the Padres, D'Backs are competitive too. You want parity-have some of these greedy Free Agents go to the White Sox.
Enjoyed your analysis on this issue, Brodie and not only because I'm a Dodgers fan.
It always bothered me that the Yankees spent so much but the way the Dodgers are running their franchise and Dodger Stadium with fans in mind. I like their business model and I like their teams. I still, to this day, hate the Yankees.
Iconic and historically good team uses their money to constantly win, LA: 😊!!!
Iconic and historically good team uses their money to constantly win, NY 🤬!!!
Brodie is talking to you PITTSBURGH PIRATES!!!
Great video, Brodie. I've been a Dodger fan since 1977 and I've lived through five different ownerships of my team: Walter O'Malley; Peter O'Malley and Terry Seidler; the Fox Entertainment Group; Frank McCourt; and finally, Guggenheim. The Fox group had no direction for the team and they let Piazza go. Frank McCourt used the team as his own personal ATM. Fans like me wanted the team to spend money but they wouldn't. The Dodgers were HORRIBLE and players didn't want to play for the team. The Dodgers were so bad, that in 2006 I bought tickets next to Larry King for CHEAP! Now, Guggenheim: they have been amazing! They're giving back to us, the fans, by putting together a team that not only wins, it has become a desirable destination for star players and a global brand. Players rave about how well the front office treats them and their families. I was envious of the Yankees back in the 1990s and now, we're the "evil empire." After all the years of mediocrity, I'll take the hate. A salary floor is the way to go. Maybe other teams can't spend like the Dodgers, but a salary floor can at least make them try to put a quality product on the field for their fans.
You're not the Evil Empire, you're the High Republic, the landscape is just primitive and you one of the few that desired something better and woke up but nature is an ass
It's not the Dodgers fault the other owners are cheap and don't want to spend the money except Cohen who over spent on one guy.
Hardcore Dodger fan here who enjoys your channel - I appreciate your objective viewpoint on this! Some organizations leave the competition on the field, but others also want their front offices and ownerships to compete too! As the saying goes - don't hate the player, hate the game!
My dad used to say "if you want to make money you have spend money, but spend it wisely". Dammit I wish the Mariners would pay attention to what the Dodgers do.
"I don't know if the Rockies care..." 🤣
11:18 you basically summed the situation my Tampa Bays Rays are in. They refuse to do any big signing and by the time they have to pay their guys they trade them away. And with this whole stadium debacle I don’t even know if the Rays will stay in St Pete
If they can afford it, and the luxury tax, no problem exists.
Solid analysis in every video Brodie…Dodgers team let’s hire Brodie…would be a solid addition to the announcing team
Great video! Refreshing to hear a rational analysis of the situation, in contrast to 90% of the rest of the population.
As a former Oakland A’s fan, we were on the extreme cheapskate side of baseball. Fisher spent the bare minimum and still is spending the bare minimum to keep the league off his back. This is why I have no issue with the Dodgers spending all this money. I get it, they are a top 2 market, the ownership group is insanely wealthy, but there are still plenty of other wealthy billionaires in MLB but they simply aren’t willing to spend. I mentioned this to Giants fans as well, now the Giants got the entire Bay Area market to themselves (which is insane) but they still decided to slash payroll. Hard for me to feel bad for the Giants organization after they helped Fisher get the A’s out of Oakland
They aren't breaking any rules so all tye power to them. If the owners don't like it set a salary cap.
We Dodger fans enjoy all the whining because just last year they were saying the Dodgers were chokers and all that. Now it's about payroll. It's pathetic and sad they can't direct their ire at their own team and have to be mad at the Dodgers instead.
Glad you’re finally coming along to the good side, Dodger Blue looks good on you 😉
That point of exercising is spot on, imagine hating someone for being fit because they train/exercise harder than everyone else. Meanwhile you just lying down complaining about them 😂 "we need exercise cap, maximum 2 hours per day because I'm lazy" 😂
Some of it might be a good point. There are definitely teams like the Pirates where the owners are trying to pocket every single cent and don't care about the on-field product. But a lot of the other teams are not spending less because they don't want to work as hard; they're spending less because they literally can't afford it. Keep the exercise metaphor: this is a competition that puts the equivalent of The Rock, with 9 figures and endless amounts of time to work on his physique, versus someone working 3 jobs that can still barely afford their Planet Fitness membership.
Good for ball! Bad for ball!
RIP Mychal Urban!
As a rangers fan I am mad they took Kirby Yates from us and that they suck 😡😡
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what is your fav team
@@EthanCantu24 astros
Spectrum Cable company pays the Dodgers a lot of money to show them on a special television channel, you have to buy a cable package to watch them on TV.
Not sure a "dynasty" is bad for professional sports. The Yankees and Celtics were dynasties. I absolutely HATE a three game playoff series in any sport. But in a way, that hurts the team with the most talent which looks like will ALWAYS be the Dodgers with this present system. As the Dodgers are constructed it would be difficult to beat them in any seven game series.
Idk why people are complaining now because they finally won in a full season ? The dodgers are the odds on betting favorite pretty much every year going back to 2013 the 5 game series has always been controversial for being a lottery of sorts but that’s the trade off you make for entertainment it’s a business and the mlb playoffs are maybe the most exciting in all of sports second to march madness
What the Dodgers are doing is what we should be seeing across the board instead of teams cheating in the World Series and not get punished or teams being allowed to play politics and rip teams out of established markets
What’s bad for baseball is teams like the Marlins who aren’t trying to compete.
Brodie, love your videos. Just a minor correction. Guggenheim Partners has $335B in "assets under management," which is not all theirs. That's the total that they are managing, largely for their clients. But your point stands, Guggenheim has a lot of money and the Dodgers generate a lot of money.
Thanks for the helpful clarification!
The Dodgers were a well-run organization for years. Their streak of making it to the playoffs shows that. But nobody cared until Shohei broke baseball by his ridiculous contract. While only being paid $2 mil and earning his team $100 mil emboldened a great organization to go all in for talent and re-investment.
6:52 I don’t know of the Rockies care 😂😂😂😂 Dang 😂😂😂
Ohtani only makes 2M a year
This is our first fight Brodie
Thay fought for a salary floor already and the owners said no !!.
Question… are deferrals sustainable?
good point, i suppose we'll find out. if the money is truly being put aside now, then i dont know why not
Right, but isn’t the point of deferral to clear up money right away to make the deal?Wouldn’t that imply that the deferral money doesn’t exist at the moment?
Take the money you'd otherwise pay the player and invest it until the check is due. You'd make money on that arrangement.
The Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla🙄. The other owners were asleep at the switch regarding deferred money
@@connercoughran4677Not really.
The point of deferrals is to reduce the AAV for salary calculations.
The Dodgers actually have to put the deferred money into escrow as it comes due, so in essence, even though the salary is deferred, they still have to have it.
Deferrals are a way to manipulate the luxury tax calculation more than anything else
Great point Brodie !!!
Wondering If they where still in Brooklyn would it matter? With their ownership, I’m guessing not.
I miss the Haas family, they had heart and soul. Unlike the fish, just greedy & heartless.
They would have to do some upgrades to Ebbets Field first.
The next CBA will definitely shape the future popularity of the MLB. Total deferred money limits and a salary floor need to be at the forefront of discussion to reinstall a shred of hope for disgruntled fans of smaller market teams. I’m already envisioning a lockout for 2027 b/c the negotiations will be very heated for a more level playing field from a collective economics standpoint. The owners want a cap but the players likely don’t. Some player reps for smaller market teams would desire a salary floor, but the cheap owners won’t comply. It’s a giant mess and an unwillingness to adapt to a new economic model could put MLB into a true decline.
Amen, down the Cartel League
Tomorrow we will hear about the Dodgers signing Bobby Bonilla to an infinity dollars contract, all deferred until the year infinity.
The league shouldn’t punish the dodgers for actively supporting their business/team. It’s like blaming a student who actually studies & prepares for class and gets A’s in the class. But the media now wants to help the teams who gets F’s, who doesn’t spend/invest in their business/teams, at the same time make it way harder to get the A.
The bad for baseball reference is only coming from New Yorkers and east coast media and fans. The media in that region are basically Yankee or Mets fans so very biased opinions and articles.
Its not even about the money anymore. They are all signing there regardless. Tanner Scott was offered more by two other teams and signed with LA. These players just want to create a super team and take the easy route to a championship.
An amaxing video for MLB fans. Thought #6 should be said digested so that we have no constipated fans ranting. Owners( many in MLB) want to keep their so that they can make easy money from Luxury tax and Revenue Sharing - National TV rights and Local TV rights( 48 PC needs to be shared by MLB teams to others). Hope this moves MLB fans to push fro their team owners to spend money on Players, Marketing, Local community additions( whatever form they want it to be).
The dodgers became the evil villain of baseball
If MLB keeps losing fans in person and on TV, the advertisers will stop paying teams enough to keep paying these salaries.
That's the goal
A salary cap will not make teams like the pirates,Rockies, marlins etc competitive because they are just a poorly ran team from top to bottom and you will find something else to complain about when shit is still the same and the central divisions still suck ass but now instead you have dick sucked incompetent leadership and continue to let them have participation trophies
Well, they're not, lol. MLB attendance increased for the third straight year in 2024 and viewership hit a high not reached since 2017 in the US.
That's not even mentioning the international market, ie, Japan.
The problem is not every team can afford to spend recklessly. LA makes way more than most teams. Only a few teams can spend that and make it back.
What brand shirts is Brodie wearing he always so sharply dressed.
Subscriber here, and I have a few thoughts:
- Other teams have tried to strike similar or even richer deals with players (see the Tanner Scott signing as the most recent example) but so many players are choosing to go to LA, and LA can afford anyone they want. Teams are simply not able to compete in free agency, and that's not due to a lack of money or trying, but a lack of a "winning culture". You have to spend money to make money, but that doesn't work if no one is taking your money.
- Is there any point where these signings go too far? Does that limit not exist? What if they Dodgers end up winning every WS for the next decade (I know baseball is more "random" than other sports, this is just a thought experiment), is that still "good for baseball" somehow?
- If you try to argue from a marketing perspective that the Dodgers being so loaded with talent is good to get more people watching the playoffs, I would counter that it would only work if they make it to the WS every year (a bad thing for every other NL team). By that same logic, if they get eliminated early on, many would tune out (a bad thing for fan interest). This is a lose-lose, playoff starpower should be distributed across different teams.
- The teams that don't spend anything/have a careless ownership group are ALSO bad for baseball, both of these things can be true! I'm of the opinion that we need both a salary floor and a salary cap (or at least a limit on deferrals & more strict luxury tax).
Jimmy from Chicago….Hi Brodie!….All your excellent points well taken….but overall bad for baseball….335 billion in assets???
……the Have and have nots simplifying matters….Most teams cannot compete with actions like this…Love the show!!!…..Thank you!!!😊😊😊
I'm a dodgers fan and I appreciate your take on this video. I just subscribed looking forward to your future videos. As far as all the hate, I'm seeing towards my team. I don't really give a blip because we had to go through the McCourt years. We had to go through horrible ownership and many, many years of.
Substandard care. I'm really looking forward to this season. To see how this all plays out. But one thing is for sure. I'm not gonna feel guilty or sorry for the other teams. That won't spend yet to go through the Yankees evil Empire era and that was also good for baseball. So we'll see what happens, but one last note. The dodgers are doing this for their fans. When you go to other ballparks, you see so much dodger. Blue, and this is really an ownership that is giving back to the people that i'm stood by them for so long period go dodgers.
Here in "Birdland", we got a new owner now and he's wants to spend big time money. And, I have seen NOTHING that suggests that the Orioles are winning a World Series sooner or later.
Yeah upgrades to OPACY is nice, but it means nothing if you don't have a quality product on the diamond.
Our farm system ranking even dropped down from the #1 spot.
looking forward to Brodie's sober assessment!
It's hard for me to complain being a mets fan. But I don't like spending that much on soto. The deferrals the Dodgers are doing isn't cool either. But the players want to play there so it's their choice
The truth is, Giant fans are to loyal. The team’s ownership can do whatever the Dodgers can, as any team can. However, the Giants’ ownership doesn’t care about winning; they only care about revenue. Therefore, why should the Giants spend money when people are going to watch a poor product? If fans stop attending games, the Giants might start spending more.
It’s a business… the difference is that the Dodgers business is garnering 300+ million in TV money, untold amounts of Japanese money and they are run by hedge funds of upwards of 100+ billion dollars. You have to be a fool to compare the Giants to the Dodgers spending power. Only the Mets can afford to do what the Dodgers do.. and that’s with Stevie going into his own pocket. The Dodgers owners never touch their own pockets.
What does my team have to do with this 😅😅 12:58
We are talking baseball now. This is good for bball. They ended the ws with 1 sp into 2025. They had to add sps. Conforto, the korean player and two relief pitchers is really their true acquisitions. Nothing compared to soto.
The odds are zero that the Pirates will even get into the playoffs. It's a broken system, and at the best - get ready for a lockout. Perhaps a long one.
I'm more surprised the players association supports deferred payouts, since present value of these deferred contracts is much smaller than it seems. Shohei's $700 million to $460-ish in today's dollars? I'm surprised every team isn't pushing to do contracts that way with every player.
i totally agree!
It's horrible for baseball how can a low budget team the ( Miami Marlins ) even compete with a high budget team like the Dodgers .
I knew you'd come around and defend the Dodgers. What size cap do you need? I got you!
Spend because they can, who wouldn't. Being in the big market they have access to much more revenue than most others. The problem in the MLB system. It has a set up Haves and Have Nots. So, the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Giants will thrive while many others will get maybe that one good run every 20 years while otherwise being in a rebuild, develop their players that ultimately will sign with a big money team. Why a salary floor is needed.
I’m all about a salary floor (I think that was one of the questions I asked you last year haha)
Thoughts on deferred salary slots in the future? (Almost like a buyout candidate in the NHL)
Thoughts on furthering luxury tax penalties - loss of draft capital + more international money? Potential loss of revenue sharing?
Brodie, are there any updates, conflicts, issues with the KC stadium? Is there enough to do a video on that new stadium?
It is bad for baseball by vastly exacerbating the systemic competitive inequity. We will find out that the other owners will not allow the system to continue as is with the next CBA after the 2026 season. Low- and mid-revenue owners have the numbers.
It’s not bad for baseball lmao. The dodgers in World Series brought the most watched World Series in years (2017). It’s even brought whole country in and they watched it more than United States in total. Not only that dodgers are making all of these moves. Not only showing how bad these small market owners are at pocketing money and not competing. That’s what’s bad for baseball. But these moves dodgers are making is making everyone talk about baseball bringing more eyes to the sport. It’s making baseball relevant again. This wasn’t some over night thing people make this out to be. The dodgers have been at this for past 11 yrs. Working to get better on every end. Now they finally ready to profit off of everything they have built in those years. Can’t hate them for it. They were at brunt of everyone jokes. Now they can actually prove everyone wrong. People are crying unfair. Shouldn’t have let the astros cheat and get away with it 2017. Shouldn’t have mocked the dodgers for losing in the playoffs. Shouldn’t have mocked their 2020 World Series. Everyone had a chance to win it. 60 game World Series is a lot harder you don’t have time to sit around to get hot. You had to be hot immediately cause your games are so limited. So now they went out and finally built around and improved what they need. Everyone crying and complaining. Just saying you guys did this. Other teams did this because they let their key people go. Dodgers profit from it. Can’t hate them. They have done everything right.
Supporting terrible incompetent owners like Reinsdorf,Fisher,Loria and whoever the Rockies owner is pathetic and you have been fooled into thinking that a salary cap will make these teams more competitive when in fact they are just shit run teams that pocket revenue
@barkobongo7196 I just don't think it's an issue of stealing CBT money. That's highly monitored. The issue is revenue. Payroll is only a part of expenses. Local TV money is also stagnant or declining. This is a systemic issue for an association of teams that supposedly desire competition.
If you don’t think this is bad for the league look at every others team payroll for 2023 to 2024. Most teams are spending less in 24. That’s the sad reality more owners will now be able to spin it as we have zero chance so let’s save for “later”
Salary FLOOR eliminates much of this angst. As for the deferred money talk, the Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla... that's on the other owners being asleep at the switch regarding the deferred money
Correct. They need a floor
Do you know what deferred money means? It means a discount on future value. That means players willing to take less money. No one is taking less money to go to Pittsburgh. No one is taking less money to go to Arizona. But everyone is taking less money to go to the Dodgers. THATS THE PROBLEM! And before you say that deferred payments are not what I said that they are… understand inflation vs interest and present value vs future value.
@@Dbo_SportsThat's a Pittsburg and Arizona problem. Find a way to make your place a desirable free agent attraction.
MLB as an office allows one team to go homeless & ask for local handouts, while MLBs other teams spend more for one or two players than a new stadium. Doesnt sit right with me a professional sports league
The new Florida Marlins
1:14: Ohtani is NOT getting $70 million in 2025. His salary is $2 MILLION.
They are probably done spending, now starts the trade process. They need to trade for Mason Miller before closing out the off-season.They have a top three farm system in all of baseball to trade from
We have to play the games. If your team did this, you would be happy. People are talking about baseball. Its good for the sport
Its not the dodgers fault, its mlb’s fault for allowing loopholes, also a lot of other teams simply cannot match the dodgers spending power. Baseball does need a salary cap to even the field, currently its a handful of teams ruling the game, which to neutrals is boring. The game is mainly played in half full grounds, tv deals failing, but the game is about greed pure and simple, players on $30million a season arguing about an extra million, hence why I love minor league baseball. Thanks for the great video.
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While the other teams are losing their TV money, the Dodgers are getting paid by Spectrum Sports cable TV service a lot of money. I think it 280 million dollars per year, you have to have the cable service to watch the Dodgers. They are nowhere else on TV- EXCEPT those games that are considered national games. Like Fox, ESPN, Tuner, MLB network not sure.
I get upset at people who workout, but I am a petty man.
You missed the teams just sitting on their ass soaking up luxury tax distribution
Did you watch the video? He did.
@@williamford9564 I think he should have said "You missed _which_ teams are just sitting..." The comments seem to identify the Pirates and the Rays, but there are undoubtedly a few more.
Need a new Giants video Brodie🙏 please clutch
It ruins competitive balance. Owners and players will squabble again in a few years and lose more fans.
Florida Marlins found way to wins but after that they sell all their players after winning it all
niccce! ⭐️
The teams are making money. Its not about the game anymore, its about the business. If Manfred was commish in the 90s he would have done nothing about the steroids as long as the owners make money.
WRONG
As a Texas Rangers fan, I don't like the Yankees, Dodgers, Houston or the Florida teams, now me not liking the Florida teams is for a different reason then my dislike for the Yankees and Dodgers also my dislike for Houston is for a different reason then my reasons for the other I dislike
If you want me to go in depth on why I dislike Yankees, Dodgers, Houston and the Florida teams I can
Trust me there’s LOTS of things that are currently bad for baseball; all of this is not even in the top 20.
John Fisher (& Other bad owners)
Tropicana Field situation
Miami Marlins home turnout
LA Angels future
Arizona’s stadium concerns
Fan Attendance
Regional broadcasting fallout
Duration of time in a baseball game
Other owners NOT spending
Pitching injuries & durability
Impending Collective Bargaining Agreement
Performance enhancers
White Sox tanking
Other Astro-like cheating scenarios
Umpires
The future of Minor Leagues
Baseball Uniform quality
HOF Voting (Ichiro)
All-Star selection process
Rob Manfred
Rob Manfred’s “innovative ideas”
I’m certain there’s more than that.
Thanks for the video Brodie! I think the financial part is not fairly managed in this field. I think salaries should be coverd by plast incomes. But how know what would work... Bytheway did anyone see already the 6. episodes of this new animation serie? Its start with a baseball scene... funny actions. th-cam.com/video/0Pp-LFb5qFE/w-d-xo.html
Was it Ohtani who offered to defer $?
I don't blame teams that spend, I blame the cheap ones that don't
Funny since some of these guys were offered more from other teams and went to LA. Look up your facts before commenting
Not trying..sounds like the A's!'
Brodie dodger fan brazil lololol
Dodgers spend smartly while the Mets went the opposite direction. A half of Shohei who only DH is much better than Soto, yet the Mets paid him more than Shohei. Do they even know how to do math?