Andy practiced kykoshin karate it has sweeps and shit the creator actually modeled it off Muay Thai he traveled to Thailand and sent his best karate fighters to fight the Thais he then created this style of karate…
@@modafly420 That’s not actually correct, Kyokushin Karate was not modelled off Muay Thai. Masutatsu Ōyama was a practitioner of Shotokan and Goju Ryu Karate, he was also born under Japanese Rule..
@@tsuchinoko9417 Andy was 79 KG for this fight. Changpuek's best weight was 65 KG at that time but no foreigners will fight at that weight and so he was forced to bloat up.
@@joerogue231 I know and totally agree that this shouldn't be used for style v style arguments. I just want to make sure there's no misinformation being spread. Changpueks a monster either way
this fight was very even i dont see how changpuek got "beaten up" they were both catching each other's kicks this was an amazing fight. andy must have won because of points honestly when changpuek was penalized for punching to the face and that one knee. otherwise neither fighter "beat up" the other.
Changpuek was the true Warrior, he fought open weight,anyone anywhere, but it had to be under rules of Kyokishin Kickboxing etc still to keep him at a disadvantage,if his elbows and face strikes were allowed,these would have ended totally different, Andy Hug was never in the same league.
Bullshit! The Kyokishin rules are the only thing keeping this fight close. No way Changpuek can match Andy's size and strength advantage under Muay Thai rules.
@@chonzen1764This is true, coupling with the fact that Andy himself is also a Muay Thai champion. Andy was actually disadvantaged here too because his brand of karate is also made to fight Muay Thai.
@@defaultset These millennial+ fans dont know what they dont know. Trevor has no clue the Hug was the One-time World Muaythai Council HW Champion in 1996.
@@defaultset Andy Hug in 1993 was 79 KG. Changpuek beat better fighters than Hug like Kaman 3 times, Smith, Nikema, etc... Hug is nothing compared to Changpuek.
Also after his victory against Kobal in the Lumpinee Boxing Stadium in 1990 he was awarded with the "Thai figher of the year" award. This was the first time a non-Thai fighter was given this prestiges award.
why don't you challenge a kyokushin black belt to a full contact match and see how it goes. ah! please film it and upload it. lets see if you still think kyokushin fighters are fairies. :)
although this is a K1 event, its really a Kyokushin event! This event (illusion 93) is basically their karate world cup/sabaki challenge which under master mas oyama has been happening since 1973/75. andy hug (r.i.p) is wearing his Kyokushin outfit here! anyways, cool event that K1 only did once in 93!
I didn't see the karate fighter complain about the rules when he went to Thailand and destroyed muay thai world champions to win the WMTC and WKA titles under muay thai rules. Never heard him complain either when he had to fight Mike Bernardo who had almost 20kg on him, instead he methodically destroyed his much bigger opponent.
3:17 Catching that kick while delivering a knee strike to the leg is amazing. Andy knew how to counter such movement. Of course, his enemy was a class of his own. Great fighters!
@@yomeromero1918 amigo, changpuek kiatsongrit, precisamente no era un peleador basico de muay thai como tu dices, era un autentico cazador de mosntruo(puesto que, como en este caso, solia pelear con peleadores que pesaban mas que el), por mencionar una de sus hazañas, la pelea que tuvo con la leyenda del kick boxing norteamericana, rick roufus, donde a pesar de que le rompieron la mandíbula (a kitasongrit) el continuo luchando y terminó destruyendo a roufus a base de low kicks
@@mytube9182 Andy Hug is a Kickboxing champion too, so he can fight without Kyokushin rules, i think he's not coward, the happen is YOU ARE STUPID AND POORLY KNOWLEDGE, kid. haha
"can u imagine if clinch was enabled" yeah Andy would body Changpeuk. The Kyokishin rules are helping Changpeuk because Andy can't use his size and strength advantage to its fullest.
Its pretty surreal to see Chanpuek stunned by a strike because this dude is a beast of a tank, usually he was the one making the other fighter panicking with brutal strikes.
Lolz keep dreaming with bunch of shit rules against the favour of amrican,when the american lands kick on chanpuk face no refree stoped it,shameless peoples and still peoples blabla garbage,whatver karate it may be, not even near to Muai thai kickboxing
@@chonzen1764 thnx for correcting ,but stil coward play & rules favoured to white player,Chanpuk surely annhilated this white dude for sure if the rules of not hitting face to chanpuk was lifted, or if longer round was there,andy coward would have run out of gass
@@treesdead Andy was 3X World SHW champion in Muay Thai. Thais do not dominate world rankings at or above 86kgs. Currently there isn't a single Thai ranked top 10 at or above 86kg. Thais are not big people. Chanpuk stands no chance under Muay Thai rules against Andy. Andy is just too big and too strong size and strength matters far more under Muay Thai rules than it does in karate. The karate rules are keeping this fight closer than it should be.
@@chonzen1764 exactly my point thats what the cheap mentality exist,focusing on tha game ,andy was a totall pussy,a game favoured to the White, everyone can see that, dont tell us the later history .🤢🤮🤮🤮why cant peoples admit that game against chanpuk was totally favoured to the white andy. If the game was extended to more rounds like muai thai,that andy would not have survived. Match fixing games sucks as the normal popualtion sees,🤢🤮🤮🤮
Guys let's quit trash talking each other. The fighting style doesn't matter. I've seen Muaythai fighters beat up karate guys and karate guys beat up muaythai fighters. It depends on the skill of the fighter.
I never claimed he is the best, only that he was one of the first non-Thai that won a Lumpinee Championship. We all know that in that weight Saenchai is the best of all.
Karate fighters stop automatically when hit in the face.. not a fair fight at all for Thai fighters. Also the weight difference played a big role here.
It's a karate tournament so they fought under karate rules, plus it was not the first time Changphuak fought in a karate openweight tournament so no excuse. Also the karate fighter is Andy Hug and guess what? He went to Thailand and beat their world champion under muay thai rules to win the WMTC title so you really can't use the ruleset as the excuse here.
Are you kidding me? this bout is in karate rule that Andy has fought for all over his life, and this is changpeuk first karate match. And not to talk about the difference in weight, reach, height. He didn't even get beat up. Karate fangirls are so annoying.
I have a big respect to Andy Hug RIP. But anyone who competes against a Muay Thai wants to change the rule so that the poor man is relegated to a punching bag, what an irony.
I wish their Fight is in K1 Rules where they allow almost everything, Andy Hug very young here later he Became a Legend of K1 and even beat Cro Cop Prime.
Veo un montón de comentarios ridículos escribiendo que el karateca es un tramposo, cobarde, etc, pero no saben que ese karateca era Andy Hug, campeón del K-1 y uno de los mejores artistas marciales no orientales. Las reglas prohibian los golpes a la cara, es por eso que reclamaba, en el K-1 demostro ser un peleador completo, es una leyenda de las artes marciales.
raulelchurro en un combate con libertad de golpes a la cara, etc Changphuak lo hubiera destrozado, el arte marcial no debe de tomarse como un deporte el arte marcial es para la guerra, nada de reglas de no golpes a la cara o la nuca o no usar los codos... es arte marcial... para la guerra, occidente ha vulgarizado las artes marciales orientales y casi acabado con la verdadera filosofía, historia, misticismo e incluso esoterismo que venía aparejado a las artes marciales orientales de antaño. Gracias a películas como Karate Kid , películas de Van damme , chuck norris, steven seagal... con el UFC y torneos parecidos el arte marcial empieza (subrayo empieza) a retomar sus raíces... pelear...
Van Lion Heart entiendo perfectamente lo que expones, pero es un torneo con reglas, no para matar gente como escribes, Andy Hug se quejaba porque el golpeaba en la cara y no estaba permitido eso, por las reglas de ese momento, además eso de que Changpuek lo hubiera masacrado discrepo rotundamente, Andy Hug es uno de los mejores exponentes de las artes marciales y opino que hubiera sido para cualquiera en un Combate real. Y por último, es obvio que esas peliculas son una farsa, no las verdades artes marciales. Saludos.
Parece que no has visto las peleas de k1 de hug. con golpes a la cara. Simplemente en esta pelea el karate de hug se impuso al thai de champueg, y en una pelea con golpes a la cara creo que Andy lo hubiera destrozado como ha destrozado a otros peleadores de thai. Y mi comentario nada tiene que ver en que estilo es mejor, sencillamente Andy era mas talentoso, independientemente del deporte que practique.
+Pt R Simplemente, si el thailandes peleaba como debía ser, el hubiera ganado, no hay nada más que decir. Andy fue uno de los mejores pero con sus reglas, si hubiesen permitido que el thailandes hiciera el verdadero muaythai, Andy, hubiera perdido. El peso también jugo y mucho. Deben ir aceptando que el muaythai es uno de los artes de guerra mas completos. No es para nenitas que no quieren malograrse la carita.
Warga Indonesia harua liat,sejarah k1 legenda karate dan muaythai bertarung. Ad sebagian orang menyatakan silat nmr 1 di dunia,anda bisa liat di pertandingan ini,tdk ada kontestan silat yg ikut. Dan saya ga fanatik sama budaya. Tp tentang sejarah,inilah faktanya.
Beat him up how? Every time he got touched in the face, the fight was stopped. The Thai fighter lost points because of those hits. I wonder what would happen if the punches and elbows were allowed to fly above the neck...
Nope, but it will be more intense, have you ever seen Changpeuk fought other than this matches? He's a legend for a reason, he's one of the first muay thai fighters to fight abroad and fight despite having to give up hell of reach and weight. He won't clinch Andy but it will be kicking contest, Andy in his early days has a weakness in his blocking technique, so Changpeuk definiely has a chance. Andy won't just tag him like this match for sure. Who will win? I don't know.
Andy is just too big for Changpeuk under Muay Thai rules. The Kyokishin rules are working in his favor here. Under Muay Thai rules Andy would simply body him the whole fight.
The way he used the kicks, to block and cover, also to puch his opponent from the center around the ring, very effective use of axe kick and crescent kick Very useful and practical, never seen it used like that
Yeah, in match that doesn't allow for punches to the face, nor elbows that is LAME Kyokushin rules. And here you are rooting for the karateka like as if the Thai were no match for him. Gosh, you're so lame. Just look at how many times Andy's "legendary" axe kick missed or connected but did little to no damage. Please, your bias only shows how inferior Karate, as a striking system is when compared to Muay Thai. If Andy had fought under Muay Thai rules? Ha. Such a fight would've messed up Andy's face. Oh, poor precious Andy. He had to fight a real fighter so decided that rules intended to keep his face pretty was necessary. Oss... shit! 😂
@@gabrielirlanda And you must be that daft to *not* notice that everytime a punch lands on the face, the referee stopped the fight? Obviously, this is a *no-punch-to-the-face* contest. If punches were allowed? The referee wouldn't have intervened. Watch those time-stamp again, carefully. Gosh, what crock are you talking about, "another fight" & all? *This* fight IS such a bout that does NOT allow punches to the face. You mean you can't see that in the video? My God... you don't even know basic fight rules when watching a match. How is it that you are even replying to me, seriously? For right now? You don't sound knowledgeable based on your comments. Do you even train in Muay Thai & have fought under Muay Thai *full-contact* rules before? I do. So, I doubt you've even taken a punch to the face. That is why you sound so ignorant in your comments. Just like the many Karatekas I've fought - all big talk until a punch hits their face. Then, they be like, "Waah! Waah! My sensei never trained me to take a punch to my face!" That's your fucking problem, not mine. If you're not *well-trained* to fight full-contact? Don't talk too much. Everybody knows Muay Thai fighters mean serious business. Unlike those 'no-punch-to-the-face' Karatekas. Bunch of jokers.
@q3yq3regp'adjfgqi [0irgphioqefvbnwr and so is any combat sport which doesnt allow smashing ur opponent to the ground and choking the shit out of them.
I think you looked Ramon up on Wikipedia but wiki isnt always a good source. The wiki of Ramon Dekkers is very incomplete, there is nothing there about his Thailand period and there is no need for that also. Just walk in every Muay Thai gym in Bangkok, Pattaya or in whole Thailand and mention his name and they know who he is and what great fighter he was in his prime.
it's an old video but have to comment : That Andy guy was throwing top down hammer kicks on Chang which was ok because he didn't stop to show the ref has pretty face and took it in his stride...is it a fight or joke, why not hit the face ?
Nope, actually it was the second time the thai was fighting in karate tournament so he knew the rules very well. Also his opponent, Andy Hug, is a also a muay thai world champion.
this dude andi, ive been seeing how tkd are loosing a lot, being panicked when leg grabbed and easyly burned by leg punishment. but andy did and striked a lot of the most slow kick: axe kick. And got grabed a lot and still didnt got scare by that. instead insisted on kicking even more than a normal taekwonder and managed at countering even by being grabbed
Fight Is good but u can't limit a fighter it's like tkd fight against a boxer and tell the boxer he can't punch kicking only or a tkd guy with punching only a judo guy with no takedowns a bjj with no submissions doesn't work
When you have respect for each other, you can appropriately match and judge styles against each other, vs all out brawl Mma is just money now days, people don't actually care or know or have respect for each other, they just wanna fuck
Rather Notsay Sorry but K-1 rules differ A LOT with full Muay Thai rules. The japanese even modified the rules soy Buakaw can't use his full potential with knees.
kyokushin guys generally beat muay thai fighters. I train both styles so I can objectively tell you kyokushin fighters have a lot more technical resources than most muay thai fighters. plus using the rules as an excuse is pathetic, nobody forced either fighter to fight with those rules. they willingly chose to fight that way. if a boxer agrees to fight a judoka under judo rules, he shouldnt complain that the judoka did throws on him.
Liquidcadmus it’s not about nobody forcing who to fight what rules it’s about both martial art if really good as claim should fight with full techniques of their own that’s way you can really know who is really the best martial art! You dumbass understand now!
can we make a kyokushin fighter tournament vs muay thai, im kyokushin, but if given a month, i think we wont have a problem with face punches, i sometimes take more face punches and kicks to the face then body blows, im a kyokushin blackbelt. belive me you will ,marvel
@2:28 - precious Andy Hugh. So precious. Changpuek shouldn't have punched Andy in the face! Changpuek is not a real fighter! Boo! Oh, poor precious Andy Hugh...
It Hug was allowed to punch, he would have dropped this guy in a minute. Much more powerful, and solid boxing skills to go along with his amazing kicks. he also has a much much wider variety of kicks, from karate, TKD and Muay Thai. Complete fighter. And much more powerful. He could basically lift him up and throw him over the ropes any time he wanted.
Xeaman, probably right. Styles don’t matter. It’s the practitioner. I’ve seen seen all kinds of top level TKD and MT guys drop opponents with their respective techniques. It’s all good my man. Fitting in the proper technique with perfect timing would be the goal. Many MMA fighters cross train today in various kicking / striking styles. It’s all good my man Have a good one Xeaman. Oos
it's simple man, he didn't win a Thai world title. But he did beat some top fighters (and lost to tons of them) I am Thai, and I am a muay thai fan. And Kobal is not one of the Thai greatest fighter, I don't know what myth they have about him in Netherlands, but Thai people know him for his power, that he can ko anyone (but he failed against real top 10 Thai fighters)
He didn't fight many top 10 Thai fighters. There weren't that many Thai SWH at that time. Above 200lbs the Muay Thai rankings have always been dominated by foreigners. Thais simply aren't big people.
@@interestedparty7523 roidw doesnt do that they give u heart atacks. look at bob sapp did he got cancer? he is definitely on his way to heart atack. also his 2 wins against hoost proved strenght matters not just skill but age bad few years later he couldnt beat anyone outside of roid peaks. foreman was champion at 45 cause he has skill not just strenght
What you're saying just proves my point. It is a karate fight, so obviously the karate guy would have the advantage. Who do you think would win, Andy Hug (if he were alive), or Buakaw in a Thai regulated fight? It wouldn't be fair, Buakaw would cripple him. Unlike here, where Hug barely beat a confused Thai fighter who is not in his comfort zone...
Then you should find out who was Andy Hug RIP. One of the greatest fighters in history who had fought powerful Dutch kickboxers, Karateka, and nak muay
Guy, Andy Hug was mopped The floor with The greatest fighters of muay Thai and kickboxing in kickboxing rules, this Guy is a legend and he beat buakaw yes
this is kyokushin...different than other karate...they teach u to kick with your shins like muay thai.....u cant punch the head cuz its bare knuckles but u can kick or knee someone in the head all u want o.o
What an embarrassment for Andy Hug, to restrict a 20kg lighter fighter in the rules. According to Thai rules he were on the ground in the first 30 seconds.
Andy edging a win against Ernesto hoost by pure heart was pretty freaking crazy.....Ernesto hoost should have won that fight and was wayy more talented, Andy however displayed so much heart against that juggernaut that it was admirable...
There are no weight classes in many Karate Sports. A 50kg man can end up fighting a 120kg man. What happened to, "Durr Muay Thai best evar!" I thought you Muay Thai fanboys though Muay Thai can beat any style. What, so it can only beat a style when the fighter is heavier or the same size as his opponent?
lol are you stupid? no elbows? no punching in the face? literally a muay thai guy fought over stupid no hitting rules, weight aside, give him free fight rules and that karate bitch is done...
2:28 Judo Master
the ref xd
Do you know he is Mr Ishii the Kancho of Seidokaikan?
Aikido
Hats off to Chan, He took on monsters way bigger than himself. Now that's what we call a real fighter
monsters? He’s a small, desperate fighter from a 3rd world country. Desperate fighters are like tasmanian devils
@@donsimons9810 3rd world? Bruh you live under the rock or sth. Ppl like you are the reason why the phrase “Americans know nothing” is so true.
Under a different set of rules too
@@donsimons9810 your mom yelled like a tasmanian devil while in bed
@@seekersudarshan2078 sounds like you're a third world slum dog millionaire!
Notice how Andy was adapting to Chenpuek’s style and even using his techniques sometimes.
notice that it is not muay thai rules
No, I cannot see that..
Andy practiced kykoshin karate it has sweeps and shit the creator actually modeled it off Muay Thai he traveled to Thailand and sent his best karate fighters to fight the Thais he then created this style of karate…
@@modafly420 That’s not actually correct, Kyokushin Karate was not modelled off Muay Thai. Masutatsu Ōyama was a practitioner of Shotokan and Goju Ryu Karate, he was also born under Japanese Rule..
@@modafly420 Lmao,kyokushin karate was generated from Japan . That are just shi* stories. There has no proof about what are you talking now
No head strike,
No elbow,
No low kick...
Its like a car without tyre for that muaythai fighter...
Well said.
Low kicks and elbows where allowed
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@@tsuchinoko9417 Andy was 79 KG for this fight.
Changpuek's best weight was 65 KG at that time but no foreigners will fight at that weight and so he was forced to bloat up.
@@joerogue231 I know and totally agree that this shouldn't be used for style v style arguments. I just want to make sure there's no misinformation being spread. Changpueks a monster either way
Changpuek was a super welterweight
(154 pounds) Hug (R.I.P) was a heavyweight (216 pounds) it’s like Sugar Ray Leonard fighting Mike Tyson.
more like mc gregor fighting mike tyson in boxing rules in this case it all but boxing
@@flowrepins6663 At that time Hug was 79 KG.
Changpuek's best weight at that time was 65 KG.
@@joerogue231 Hug hadn't fought below HW since he was a teenager. Stop lying!
@@joerogue231 Dude stop lying. Hug was not 79kg. That last time he fought below HW in Karate was in the mid 80s. You are just making shit up!
two absolute legends
this fight was very even i dont see how changpuek got "beaten up" they were both catching each other's kicks this was an amazing fight. andy must have won because of points honestly when changpuek was penalized for punching to the face and that one knee. otherwise neither fighter "beat up" the other.
Point deduction was the reason. Ketsungrit keeps forgetting that he can't punch Andy innthe face.
nope. karate guy won
@@donsimons9810 Muay thai/Kickboxing rules will destroy your karateka
@@jobymanuel1353 I mean yeah its 2 different martial arts and its harder to adapt for chan cuz hes so used to hit to the face
@@zeal4213 Andy was the SW champioin of the WMTC. He would do just fine under Muay Thai rules you UFC doucebag.
a true legend.....that will never die
Kiatsongrit seems to have been at a weight disadvantage here?!
He always was and rule dis vantages to
Mira la pelea con Shin Ushkoshi cuando Changpuek era más pesado.
Andy hug was 20kg heavier
Shin was at a weight disadvantage when Changpuek fought him.
It was an open weight tournament. Everyone else there was basically a heavyweight..
It was filmed with a casio calculator.
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lol
GoldBallsOfSteel
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lmao.
Lol😂
Hey I love this lol
Changpuek was the true Warrior, he fought open weight,anyone anywhere, but it had to be under rules of Kyokishin Kickboxing etc still to keep him at a disadvantage,if his elbows and face strikes were allowed,these would have ended totally different, Andy Hug was never in the same league.
Bullshit! The Kyokishin rules are the only thing keeping this fight close. No way Changpuek can match Andy's size and strength advantage under Muay Thai rules.
Then allow elbow strikes and hit to face. Thai fighter fought under Karate rule. Not under Thai rule. @@chonzen1764
@@chonzen1764This is true, coupling with the fact that Andy himself is also a Muay Thai champion. Andy was actually disadvantaged here too because his brand of karate is also made to fight Muay Thai.
@@defaultset These millennial+ fans dont know what they dont know. Trevor has no clue the Hug was the One-time World Muaythai Council HW Champion in 1996.
@@defaultset Andy Hug in 1993 was 79 KG.
Changpuek beat better fighters than Hug like Kaman 3 times, Smith, Nikema, etc...
Hug is nothing compared to Changpuek.
They shouldnt have made this kyokushin rules. Respect to Kiatsongrit for taking the fight and Andy Hug
Also after his victory against Kobal in the Lumpinee Boxing Stadium in 1990 he was awarded with the "Thai figher of the year" award. This was the first time a non-Thai fighter was given this prestiges award.
some fairy hobbit rules. no punch in the face
thats why they dont have gloves
go watch k1 if you wanna see Andy fighting with punches to the head allowed.
why don't you challenge a kyokushin black belt to a full contact match and see how it goes. ah! please film it and upload it. lets see if you still think kyokushin fighters are fairies. :)
but allowed kick to the head....what the rules huh!
although this is a K1 event, its really a Kyokushin event! This event (illusion 93) is basically their karate world cup/sabaki challenge which under master mas oyama has been happening since 1973/75. andy hug (r.i.p) is wearing his Kyokushin outfit here!
anyways, cool event that K1 only did once in 93!
No punching in face, no elbows, no knees, no clinching. 75kg thai fighter with 10% of muay thai vs 95kg 100% kyokushin. Amazing.
As if.
Should have told him to stay at home then, instead of signing up for the K1 karate world cup.
I didn't see the karate fighter complain about the rules when he went to Thailand and destroyed muay thai world champions to win the WMTC and WKA titles under muay thai rules. Never heard him complain either when he had to fight Mike Bernardo who had almost 20kg on him, instead he methodically destroyed his much bigger opponent.
@@51dodoc pls give me the link , i want to see those fights
@@51dodoc stop laying karate kid
2:30 that ref projection looool
Its actually his 2nd tournament in Seidokaikan, so he knew the rules.
3:17 Catching that kick while delivering a knee strike to the leg is amazing. Andy knew how to counter such movement. Of course, his enemy was a class of his own. Great fighters!
He only countered that because the other guy isn't allowed to punch him, otherwise he wouldn't be able to lay a single hit on him
si se dan cuenta que es un peleador básico de muay thai no lo imagino contra un maestro thai
He's much bigger, heavier and yet using the rules for more advantage. He's coward.
@@yomeromero1918 amigo, changpuek kiatsongrit, precisamente no era un peleador basico de muay thai como tu dices, era un autentico cazador de mosntruo(puesto que, como en este caso, solia pelear con peleadores que pesaban mas que el), por mencionar una de sus hazañas, la pelea que tuvo con la leyenda del kick boxing norteamericana, rick roufus, donde a pesar de que le rompieron la mandíbula (a kitasongrit) el continuo luchando y terminó destruyendo a roufus a base de low kicks
@@mytube9182 Andy Hug is a Kickboxing champion too, so he can fight without Kyokushin rules, i think he's not coward, the happen is YOU ARE STUPID AND POORLY KNOWLEDGE, kid. haha
Very funny... Duel with no face punch allowance, can u imagine if clinch was enabled?
"can u imagine if clinch was enabled" yeah Andy would body Changpeuk. The Kyokishin rules are helping Changpeuk because Andy can't use his size and strength advantage to its fullest.
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@@chonzen1764Are you insane ?
Andy's clinch is a joke compared to Changpuek.
Changpuek destroyed Smith in the rematch because of superior clinching.
Its pretty surreal to see Chanpuek stunned by a strike because this dude is a beast of a tank, usually he was the one making the other fighter panicking with brutal strikes.
Lolz keep dreaming with bunch of shit rules against the favour of amrican,when the american lands kick on chanpuk face no refree stoped it,shameless peoples and still peoples blabla garbage,whatver karate it may be, not even near to Muai thai kickboxing
@@treesdead Andy was Swiss you moron.
@@chonzen1764 thnx for correcting ,but stil coward play & rules favoured to white player,Chanpuk surely annhilated this white dude for sure if the rules of not hitting face to chanpuk was lifted, or if longer round was there,andy coward would have run out of gass
@@treesdead Andy was 3X World SHW champion in Muay Thai. Thais do not dominate world rankings at or above 86kgs. Currently there isn't a single Thai ranked top 10 at or above 86kg. Thais are not big people.
Chanpuk stands no chance under Muay Thai rules against Andy. Andy is just too big and too strong size and strength matters far more under Muay Thai rules than it does in karate. The karate rules are keeping this fight closer than it should be.
@@chonzen1764 exactly my point thats what the cheap mentality exist,focusing on tha game ,andy was a totall pussy,a game favoured to the White, everyone can see that, dont tell us the later history .🤢🤮🤮🤮why cant peoples admit that game against chanpuk was totally favoured to the white andy. If the game was extended to more rounds like muai thai,that andy would not have survived. Match fixing games sucks as the normal popualtion sees,🤢🤮🤮🤮
Guys let's quit trash talking each other. The fighting style doesn't matter. I've seen Muaythai fighters beat up karate guys and karate guys beat up muaythai fighters. It depends on the skill of the fighter.
kantarakornsna show me the video of karate guys beat up muaythai
@@troywidjaja6736 th-cam.com/video/kYVEg1M5Gik/w-d-xo.html
Mis respetos para los dos. sobrevivir un combate a Hug. no es cualquier cosa!
R.I.P. Samurái de Los Ojos Azules
hahahaha con las reglas a su favor quien va a ganar fácilmente? un simple peleador que escogió a sus contrincantes siempre como saenchai.
Kyokushin with head movement and blocks for the face would be unstoppable honestly
Yes I have. Before this match against Changpuek, he fought Shin Ushikoshi in Seidokaikan rules.
I never claimed he is the best, only that he was one of the first non-Thai that won a Lumpinee Championship. We all know that in that weight Saenchai is the best of all.
Hug and Chen. Two legends
Andy hug is a legend look his real kickboxing fight
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@@treesdead Payaso
Karate fighters stop automatically when hit in the face.. not a fair fight at all for Thai fighters. Also the weight difference played a big role here.
It's a karate tournament so they fought under karate rules, plus it was not the first time Changphuak fought in a karate openweight tournament so no excuse. Also the karate fighter is Andy Hug and guess what? He went to Thailand and beat their world champion under muay thai rules to win the WMTC title so you really can't use the ruleset as the excuse here.
Are you kidding me? this bout is in karate rule that Andy has fought for all over his life, and this is changpeuk first karate match. And not to talk about the difference in weight, reach, height. He didn't even get beat up. Karate fangirls are so annoying.
Well said.
Lol he hit me in the face 😢
Cry of the hero, LOL!
changpuek caught every single axe kick lol
With the neck and the hand, Everytime
I have a big respect to Andy Hug RIP. But anyone who competes against a Muay Thai wants to change the rule so that the poor man is relegated to a punching bag, what an irony.
So the muah thai shouldnt have accepted the fight :) both fighters did so it is what it is.
@@Kapojos but the thai fighter never ran at the ref crying after a punch tho
I wish their Fight is in K1 Rules where they allow almost everything, Andy Hug very young here later he Became a Legend of K1 and even beat Cro Cop Prime.
Correction he beat Cro Cop while suffering from undiagnosed stage 3 cancer.
Karate guy is like why you hit me in the face?! Lmao this isn't a fight...
Andy Hug was a K1 legend! It's a special rules match Numnuts,no punching to the head.
@@Conor-B dumb rules, you are going to fight but can’t punch the face? Sounds like he chose those rules to benefit his style
@@manolispadilla7765
Its from the tournament itself. Andy later on took many belts and prizes under other style matchs with few rules
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This has to be the most sissy ruleset ever 😂😂
“Ref he hit my face! 🥺😢”
Hahahaa
Both are legendary warriors.
Veo un montón de comentarios ridículos escribiendo que el karateca es un tramposo, cobarde, etc, pero no saben que ese karateca era Andy Hug, campeón del K-1 y uno de los mejores artistas marciales no orientales. Las reglas prohibian los golpes a la cara, es por eso que reclamaba, en el K-1 demostro ser un peleador completo, es una leyenda de las artes marciales.
raulelchurro en un combate con libertad de golpes a la cara, etc Changphuak lo hubiera destrozado, el arte marcial no debe de tomarse como un deporte el arte marcial es para la guerra, nada de reglas de no golpes a la cara o la nuca o no usar los codos... es arte marcial... para la guerra, occidente ha vulgarizado las artes marciales orientales y casi acabado con la verdadera filosofía, historia, misticismo e incluso esoterismo que venía aparejado a las artes marciales orientales de antaño. Gracias a películas como Karate Kid , películas de Van damme , chuck norris, steven seagal... con el UFC y torneos parecidos el arte marcial empieza (subrayo empieza) a retomar sus raíces... pelear...
Van Lion Heart entiendo perfectamente lo que expones, pero es un torneo con reglas, no para matar gente como escribes, Andy Hug se quejaba porque el golpeaba en la cara y no estaba permitido eso, por las reglas de ese momento, además eso de que Changpuek lo hubiera masacrado discrepo rotundamente, Andy Hug es uno de los mejores exponentes de las artes marciales y opino que hubiera sido para cualquiera en un Combate real. Y por último, es obvio que esas peliculas son una farsa, no las verdades artes marciales. Saludos.
La diferencia de peso tuvo que ver en esta pelea.
Parece que no has visto las peleas de k1 de hug. con golpes a la cara. Simplemente en esta pelea el karate de hug se impuso al thai de champueg, y en una pelea con golpes a la cara creo que Andy lo hubiera destrozado como ha destrozado a otros peleadores de thai. Y mi comentario nada tiene que ver en que estilo es mejor, sencillamente Andy era mas talentoso, independientemente del deporte que practique.
+Pt R Simplemente, si el thailandes peleaba como debía ser, el hubiera ganado, no hay nada más que decir. Andy fue uno de los mejores pero con sus reglas, si hubiesen permitido que el thailandes hiciera el verdadero muaythai, Andy, hubiera perdido. El peso también jugo y mucho. Deben ir aceptando que el muaythai es uno de los artes de guerra mas completos. No es para nenitas que no quieren malograrse la carita.
special rules fights are BS. Let style against style go free and may the best man win.
This was a fight that one has done his best and the other just did his regular spar match. . (Chanpuek was holding back because of the rules)
Well said.
Warga Indonesia harua liat,sejarah k1 legenda karate dan muaythai bertarung. Ad sebagian orang menyatakan silat nmr 1 di dunia,anda bisa liat di pertandingan ini,tdk ada kontestan silat yg ikut. Dan saya ga fanatik sama budaya. Tp tentang sejarah,inilah faktanya.
Beat him up how? Every time he got touched in the face, the fight was stopped. The Thai fighter lost points because of those hits. I wonder what would happen if the punches and elbows were allowed to fly above the neck...
Hug would have dropped him. Much more powerful puncher, if allowed.
Dunno, but Andy was no stranger to getting punched by bigger, equally skilled dudes. Andy was badass. Respect to both.
@@RK-ee7cl so powerful that he was about to cry after getting touched in his face 😂
Two absolute Legends
this is the guy that chopped rick roufous leg like banana tree?
selvagem esse arbitro
andy was doing a lot of hugging
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@ThaiBettas
Rules in this match are very confusing..If they fighted in K1 rules,well watch andy with glowes ;)
I wonder how the fight would have gone if punches weren't nerfed
dont forget the knees elbow clinch
@@juicypears5466 Andy would kill him
Andy's size and strength advantage would have made it even more one sided.
1:00 You punched my face! I'm telling mommy
Your mother what?
Changphuak as same weight as buakaw is about 70 kg, Andy Hug is about 100 kg. What the fucking rule.
They made rules for the Muay Thai fighter to follow and it ended up being kicked exactly like a dummy for his opponent 😎
Sissy rules, why not have them in dancing competition? WTF ?
Muay Thai keyboard warriors are gonna be upset about this one lol
referee is a judo master 💪💪💪
Very gentleman like on both sides
Nope, but it will be more intense, have you ever seen Changpeuk fought other than this matches? He's a legend for a reason, he's one of the first muay thai fighters to fight abroad and fight despite having to give up hell of reach and weight. He won't clinch Andy but it will be kicking contest, Andy in his early days has a weakness in his blocking technique, so Changpeuk definiely has a chance. Andy won't just tag him like this match for sure. Who will win? I don't know.
Andy is just too big for Changpeuk under Muay Thai rules. The Kyokishin rules are working in his favor here. Under Muay Thai rules Andy would simply body him the whole fight.
The way he used the kicks, to block and cover, also to puch his opponent from the center around the ring, very effective use of axe kick and crescent kick
Very useful and practical, never seen it used like that
Changpuc leg kicks had zero effect on hugs legs. Puc could
Not even cheat by punching him in face. Andy way to skilled and tuff. OSS 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
3:19 take your own medicine, that was priceless
Yeah, in match that doesn't allow for punches to the face, nor elbows that is LAME Kyokushin rules. And here you are rooting for the karateka like as if the Thai were no match for him. Gosh, you're so lame.
Just look at how many times Andy's "legendary" axe kick missed or connected but did little to no damage. Please, your bias only shows how inferior Karate, as a striking system is when compared to Muay Thai. If Andy had fought under Muay Thai rules? Ha. Such a fight would've messed up Andy's face. Oh, poor precious Andy. He had to fight a real fighter so decided that rules intended to keep his face pretty was necessary. Oss... shit! 😂
@@Z4U3398 0:56 and 1:50 I'm watching punches on the face...maybe you sr. are talking about another fight? 😁
@@gabrielirlanda And you must be that daft to *not* notice that everytime a punch lands on the face, the referee stopped the fight? Obviously, this is a *no-punch-to-the-face* contest. If punches were allowed? The referee wouldn't have intervened. Watch those time-stamp again, carefully.
Gosh, what crock are you talking about, "another fight" & all? *This* fight IS such a bout that does NOT allow punches to the face. You mean you can't see that in the video? My God... you don't even know basic fight rules when watching a match. How is it that you are even replying to me, seriously? For right now? You don't sound knowledgeable based on your comments. Do you even train in Muay Thai & have fought under Muay Thai *full-contact* rules before? I do. So, I doubt you've even taken a punch to the face. That is why you sound so ignorant in your comments. Just like the many Karatekas I've fought - all big talk until a punch hits their face. Then, they be like, "Waah! Waah! My sensei never trained me to take a punch to my face!"
That's your fucking problem, not mine. If you're not *well-trained* to fight full-contact? Don't talk too much. Everybody knows Muay Thai fighters mean serious business. Unlike those 'no-punch-to-the-face' Karatekas. Bunch of jokers.
Saufi Suria Andy Hugh has fought plenty with punches to the head and he’s done very well.
@@Z4U3398 awww so bad for your favorite thai boxiiing?
There are no supreme art form, only superior warriors. Andy was hurt at times, and Chanpuek was also hurt with Andy's strikes. We can see that in 2:15
@q3yq3regp'adjfgqi [0irgphioqefvbnwr and so is any combat sport which doesnt allow smashing ur opponent to the ground and choking the shit out of them.
I think you looked Ramon up on Wikipedia but wiki isnt always a good source. The wiki of Ramon Dekkers is very incomplete, there is nothing there about his Thailand period and there is no need for that also. Just walk in every Muay Thai gym in Bangkok, Pattaya or in whole Thailand and mention his name and they know who he is and what great fighter he was in his prime.
Ref making on the spot rules!
it's an old video but have to comment : That Andy guy was throwing top down hammer kicks on Chang which was ok because he didn't stop to show the ref has pretty face and took it in his stride...is it a fight or joke, why not hit the face ?
You can kick the face but you can't punch it. K-1 rules was based on Kyokushin rules
Look up for the rules of kyokushin karate instead of complaining, it was a karate tournament they both agreed to fight with this ruleset.
thai guy is like, wtf are we doing here? are we fighting or what?
Nope, actually it was the second time the thai was fighting in karate tournament so he knew the rules very well. Also his opponent, Andy Hug, is a also a muay thai world champion.
this dude andi, ive been seeing how tkd are loosing a lot, being panicked when leg grabbed and easyly burned by leg punishment. but andy did and striked a lot of the most slow kick: axe kick. And got grabed a lot and still didnt got scare by that. instead insisted on kicking even more than a normal taekwonder and managed at countering even by being grabbed
keep in mind there is like 20kg difference in this fight ^^
Keep in mind that Matsui beat hug, but Matsui was 15 kg lighter
be water my friend
how can you determine which of the 2 styles is the best if one has BIG limitations?
Fight Is good but u can't limit a fighter it's like tkd fight against a boxer and tell the boxer he can't punch kicking only or a tkd guy with punching only a judo guy with no takedowns a bjj with no submissions doesn't work
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When you have respect for each other, you can appropriately match and judge styles against each other, vs all out brawl
Mma is just money now days, people don't actually care or know or have respect for each other, they just wanna fuck
Andy Hug will KO if fight muaythai rules.
Rather Notsay Sorry but K-1 rules differ A LOT with full Muay Thai rules. The japanese even modified the rules soy Buakaw can't use his full potential with knees.
kyokushin guys generally beat muay thai fighters. I train both styles so I can objectively tell you kyokushin fighters have a lot more technical resources than most muay thai fighters.
plus using the rules as an excuse is pathetic, nobody forced either fighter to fight with those rules. they willingly chose to fight that way. if a boxer agrees to fight a judoka under judo rules, he shouldnt complain that the judoka did throws on him.
Liquidcadmus if it was under MT rules, I believe the MY fighter would have won. And plus this fight was abit unfair, different weight classes
@Memento Mori i was thinking the same thing. guy has no idea what hes talking about.
Liquidcadmus it’s not about nobody forcing who to fight what rules it’s about both martial art if really good as claim should fight with full techniques of their own that’s way you can really know who is really the best martial art! You dumbass understand now!
Andy's axe kick has ko'ed so many karate fighters, but againts muaythai.. well 😅
You can kick to the head but can't punch to the head?
can we make a kyokushin fighter tournament vs muay thai, im kyokushin, but if given a month, i think we wont have a problem with face punches, i sometimes take more face punches and kicks to the face then body blows, im a kyokushin blackbelt. belive me you will ,marvel
Kyokushin brown belt here, OSU
@2:28 - precious Andy Hugh. So precious. Changpuek shouldn't have punched Andy in the face! Changpuek is not a real fighter! Boo! Oh, poor precious Andy Hugh...
It Hug was allowed to punch, he would have dropped this guy in a minute. Much more powerful, and solid boxing skills to go along with his amazing kicks. he also has a much much wider variety of kicks, from karate, TKD and Muay Thai. Complete fighter. And much more powerful. He could basically lift him up and throw him over the ropes any time he wanted.
@@RK-ee7cl Yeah but if he'd gone against Kaoklai, the giant slayer of Muay Thai, he would lose!
Xeaman, probably right. Styles don’t matter. It’s the practitioner. I’ve seen seen all kinds of top level TKD and MT guys drop opponents with their respective techniques. It’s all good my man. Fitting in the proper technique with perfect timing would be the goal. Many MMA fighters cross train today in various kicking / striking styles.
It’s all good my man
Have a good one Xeaman.
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What's this insane no-punches-to-the-face rule??? I thought this Hug fella is doing karate, not the useless-hands TKD.
why are people acting like its hug's fault that there is a no punch to the face rule? its the whole tournament that has that rule.
What the hell was the Referee on about?! 🤣
what is that, not allowed hits in the face? 🤣
dude, it's the same day as his first match, do you see that he still hit Andy's face? He has fought muay thai rule for his whole life.
Wel what about andy when he hits on changpuk face,refree seems to be blinded
Ha ha the karate guy wouldn't last one minute against Thai rules
Funny the Thai boxer has to obey the rules of other fighters when he is fighting others but no one goes in a ring with Thai Muay rules.
2:28 EPIC MOVE..
it's simple man, he didn't win a Thai world title. But he did beat some top fighters (and lost to tons of them) I am Thai, and I am a muay thai fan. And Kobal is not one of the Thai greatest fighter, I don't know what myth they have about him in Netherlands, but Thai people know him for his power, that he can ko anyone (but he failed against real top 10 Thai fighters)
He didn't fight many top 10 Thai fighters. There weren't that many Thai SWH at that time. Above 200lbs the Muay Thai rankings have always been dominated by foreigners. Thais simply aren't big people.
Andy Hug was on so much steroids. I’ve wondered if it contributed to his death. Juicing is so unfair.
Probably. He died of leukemia which is linked to Growth Hormone abuse. And dude was naturally lean, no doubt he was juicing.
@@interestedparty7523 roidw doesnt do that they give u heart atacks. look at bob sapp did he got cancer? he is definitely on his way to heart atack. also his 2 wins against hoost proved strenght matters not just skill but age bad few years later he couldnt beat anyone outside of roid peaks. foreman was champion at 45 cause he has skill not just strenght
@@flowrepins6663 you’re wrong. They give heart attacks but also give you blood cancer, leukemia.
What you're saying just proves my point. It is a karate fight, so obviously the karate guy would have the advantage. Who do you think would win, Andy Hug (if he were alive), or Buakaw in a Thai regulated fight? It wouldn't be fair, Buakaw would cripple him. Unlike here, where Hug barely beat a confused Thai fighter who is not in his comfort zone...
Then you should find out who was Andy Hug RIP. One of the greatest fighters in history who had fought powerful Dutch kickboxers, Karateka, and nak muay
Guy, Andy Hug was mopped The floor with The greatest fighters of muay Thai and kickboxing in kickboxing rules, this Guy is a legend and he beat buakaw yes
Hubiera sido lindo verlo en el ufc a este tipo. De seguro no tendria rivales
kick to head - allowed. punch to head - no. that's the logic..
this is kyokushin...different than other karate...they teach u to kick with your shins like muay thai.....u cant punch the head cuz its bare knuckles but u can kick or knee someone in the head all u want o.o
which is stronger , kyokushin or muay thai?
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kyokushin
Ahmad Nadir kyokuthai :v
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@hazza3
In Kyokushin +90 are absolute category..
@Patriot1389 Well its to bad that this is Seidokan K-1 and Andy Hug is only 8kg heavier than Changpuek.
Who won
What an embarrassment for Andy Hug, to restrict a 20kg lighter fighter in the rules. According to Thai rules he were on the ground in the first 30 seconds.
Andy edging a win against Ernesto hoost by pure heart was pretty freaking crazy.....Ernesto hoost should have won that fight and was wayy more talented, Andy however displayed so much heart against that juggernaut that it was admirable...
He's much bigger, heavier and yet using the rules for more advantage. He's coward.
@@mytube9182 who are you referring too?
@@mytube9182 Bullshit! You ever seen Andy fight under Muay Thai rules.
Andy was 5'10" 210-220lbs, without a weight cut, fighting super heavyweight. Today Andy would be fighting light heavyweight.
There are no weight classes in many Karate Sports. A 50kg man can end up fighting a 120kg man.
What happened to, "Durr Muay Thai best evar!" I thought you Muay Thai fanboys though Muay Thai can beat any style. What, so it can only beat a style when the fighter is heavier or the same size as his opponent?
Being allowed to punch to the face helps too
lol are you stupid? no elbows? no punching in the face? literally a muay thai guy fought over stupid no hitting rules, weight aside, give him free fight rules and that karate bitch is done...
FUCK WITH THOSE RULE!!
Never seen a ref throw a fighter down 2:30
quien gano al final?
x x Andy Hug
I thinks it's good if they fight with gloves
What good is a fighting style where you stop and cry every time you get hit in the face?
Is there even any point using axe kick? Since headnis off limit it can only be use to attack the shoulder which not much damage i think.
You can kick to the head.
@@donnydont the rule says no attack on head
@@salplayer9198 you can attack the head with a kick but you can't punch it