Elections360 Weekly | Heated crime debate as parties square off in Western Cape

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  • On tonight's elections debate, political parties debate about the high rate of crime in the country. The debate was held at Langa Community hall in the Western Cape.
    ANC was represented by Bheki Cele, PA by Cheslyn Steenberg, DA by Ian Cameron, EFF by Nazier Paulsen, Good Party was represented by Brett Herron and Al Jama-ah by Advocate Shameemah Salie.
    For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.

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  • @graham9794
    @graham9794 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    It's confirmed!! South African's National IQ test will be written on 29 May.

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    ANC is a failure in every department!

  • @bekkerbosbeer3453
    @bekkerbosbeer3453 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Once you actually send the criminals to jail, it will make sense!!!

  • @lebraa9233
    @lebraa9233 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    ANC Exitpolls what a USELESSS Ministers failed State all around 😩😩

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Bheki can’t even talk properly time to go on pension!

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Jail rather

    • @sabelosphalas1747
      @sabelosphalas1747 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@veronicakarstel9126😂😂😂

    • @DrRed-dj6or
      @DrRed-dj6or 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You are obviously bias

    • @balsak007
      @balsak007 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DrRed-dj6orand you are not?

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      AGREE with you Very much too old man should be long time on PENSION all sleeping behind the Desktop 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @vt5371
    @vt5371 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    One of the worst "debate" I have seen so far!

    • @lucasjansenvanvuuren8756
      @lucasjansenvanvuuren8756 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Agreed, it is a waste of time, no real depth of getting to answers, cheap politicking.
      Lack of fundamental understanding even by the questions from the crowds, with very obvious bias,

  • @mrsgoemans-leith
    @mrsgoemans-leith 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    What is the point of having a clock if the debaters only talk louder when asked to stop 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @ross7901
    @ross7901 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Brett Heron's political slogan should be: 'I should know better'

  • @Jitesh_Dayal
    @Jitesh_Dayal 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    The failure is on the stage. ANC man Cele

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That Cele ANC should be long time on PENSION all get free salaris which does'nt presenteren

  • @bekkerbosbeer3453
    @bekkerbosbeer3453 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Bheki has no idea what he is talking about!!!

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Bheki talking Dementetion behind the Desktop old these ex Présidenten 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @onlyeverydaysa5029
      @onlyeverydaysa5029 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes these different departments don't speak to each other and it shows.

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@onlyeverydaysa5029 AGREE with you i belief its different departements they don't discussiëren with each others that is Why its mess intolerant altogether

  • @devilliersduplessis7904
    @devilliersduplessis7904 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Go Iron Cameroon!

  • @AlternativPerspectiv
    @AlternativPerspectiv 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    People keep talking about wanting policing resources in their area... do they pay tax? Do thy pay rates and levies to the municipality?
    All the informal settlements that are just a problem, do they contribute ANYTHING at all to the taxbase that pays for police? No.
    Then they must shut up.

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Get what you pay for. Everything free and most fled EC to become a burden to us ratepayers

    • @kambuyiblack7462
      @kambuyiblack7462 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @veronicakarstel9126 You sound delusional. Townships are big contributers to South Africas economy. The police department is not funded based on how much property levies and taxes you pay. Read the budget speech. Since crime is destroying our economy and these communities are sources of some criminals, members of these communities feel that more policing will mitigate some of the extreme forms of criminality in their area. Your comment indicates to me you do not recognise these people in townships as human beings worthy of basic rights. You talk about money when the conversation is about human lives and longterm stability. There is no law prohibiting the free movement of any South Africa to greener pastures. Western Cape is not an independent state nor will it ever become one - more and more black people will migrate there until you can't tell who is black and who is not, that will help you from discriminating people based on the colour of their skin.

    • @balsak007
      @balsak007 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kambuyiblack7462Yeah black people voted for the ANC in the EC and then moved to greener pastures. Like they did 300 years ago. Where does the budget gets its income from? Taxes! You vote on the basis of race only, where are you going to move once the WC looks like the EC? Zim?

  • @Stewylewy
    @Stewylewy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Everything in this video could have been summarised in 15 minutes.
    Between the transparent politicking of the speakers to the chaos of the crowd and the failure to manage the debate, this is a snapshot of what is wrong with South African politics.

  • @claudettebirkett1302
    @claudettebirkett1302 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Why is United Independent Movement never invited to participate on this platform ? Always the same old political party's.. we need fresh young leaders with solutions. It is time for change. We are tired if anc, eff , Al Jamah !

  • @PingPong-Jhb
    @PingPong-Jhb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The questions are being asked the wrong people, there is nothing we will get from these ones.

  • @donreebyr
    @donreebyr 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Why is this guy of pa say the Da can't do nothing who is running this country isn't it ANC say anc can't solve problems in this country if the Da was running this this country you will have seen law and order

  • @SandraVanEeden
    @SandraVanEeden 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Those supporters of the anc, you should ask one of them what solutions do they have.

  • @glynisstevens7638
    @glynisstevens7638 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Get rid if cele

  • @lebraa9233
    @lebraa9233 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    EFF must demand Police on His Minister Président ANC" Inpowerment Not demand Police assistent on DA??

  • @johannel9982
    @johannel9982 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Listening to the majority of the supporters it is clear they don't accept criminal behaviour is a wilful act. I now understand why it was policed the way it was before 1994 and why we could sleep safe at night in those days

  • @chrisbadenhorst5304
    @chrisbadenhorst5304 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    What boggles my mind is how all these political parties say "The DA has failed in policing".
    Last time I checked the SAPS is part of government.
    And the ANC is government, the DA is NOT the government.
    So all these smart arses actually just pointed out how stupid they are AND how incompetent the anc is.

  • @LebohangPonoane6346
    @LebohangPonoane6346 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Criminals are arrested, but Department of Justice take them out on min amount of money. Whilst the victims and communities in blacks and coloureds areas are suffering.

  • @eldenrossouw314
    @eldenrossouw314 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bheki Cele "we have arrested 600 thousand and something criminals" but they dont arrest themselves

  • @AlternativPerspectiv
    @AlternativPerspectiv 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    41:00 So officers who can't drive or use a gun were fired and ANC is upset? See why we have problems in South Africa? "They should have been assisted"... assisted to what? Forge passes?

  • @elizemeissenheimer8345
    @elizemeissenheimer8345 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Aljamah advovate100% for you👍👍👍

  • @hennie4122
    @hennie4122 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Staan sement vas! Ons baiza nie! Patriotic Alliance

  • @MuhammadNoorMia
    @MuhammadNoorMia 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Why is NCC not on the panel ??

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They will be shocked when the discounted NCC takes away a lot of the DA votes in the WC.

    • @3ch0ri0t9
      @3ch0ri0t9 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      PA taking alot from DA

  • @CassidayJacobs
    @CassidayJacobs 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Ek Baiza Nie!

  • @karthi7016
    @karthi7016 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    80+murders a day... We are a murderous bunch...

  • @leslenesantana7575
    @leslenesantana7575 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Thank you DA 🙏 #voteDA #rescueSA 🙏🇿🇦💙

  • @JCdevoss
    @JCdevoss 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is basically a debate between the DA and the ANC and it's coalition parties (including Al Jamah)

  • @user-ux3ed3ni1p
    @user-ux3ed3ni1p 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Clearly, these institutions are not communicating and working together and hence the people suffer. Clearly, there is a benefit to the chaos.

  • @mrsgoemans-leith
    @mrsgoemans-leith 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Silly to ask a criminal how to get rid of crime in South Africa. The ANC are contributing to SA's high crime rates so how can we expect them to fix it??

  • @ethomas6598
    @ethomas6598 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If Ian Cameron did not stand up against Bheki Nckele, none of these parties would be so against Western Cape. Why are they not trying to prove themselves by building up a small Town so that we can see just how well they can govern. Western cape government has already proved it can govern, Criminal run parties will just destroy Western cape.
    Well done DA

  • @veronicakarstel9126
    @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Unemployable but dance. Stunted brain growth

    • @vusikhawula5686
      @vusikhawula5686 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And you want black people to vote for your DA.. Yet you can't even hide your racism and white supremism bigotry

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ian Cameron for police

  • @user-ku8kf9yy5g
    @user-ku8kf9yy5g 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It all start at home, we should teach our family, kids, neighborhood, citizens that crime is wrong, this criminals have parents family, we complain about crime and we protect them, we don't assist but we know, we with hold information, most of us is part of the problem, we the citizens protect this criminals.

  • @andrevanderwalt_
    @andrevanderwalt_ 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Go DA!!!!

  • @beingbantu7528
    @beingbantu7528 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Where is my party actionSA 💚💚💚

  • @arnoldduncan4358
    @arnoldduncan4358 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The muslim lady this is for you don't blame the DA some of your Coments are incorrect

  • @renaldonoland2298
    @renaldonoland2298 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    PA has got my vote.

  • @magezapc493
    @magezapc493 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Besides the incompetency, particularly from the 'General', these panelist all of them lack professionalism. Their parties could have sent bettter people!!! Worst debate ever.

  • @pitsopitso1857
    @pitsopitso1857 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They cud have just invited ANC and DA only...😂

  • @hlesko3254
    @hlesko3254 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    SA never answered one question concerning townships

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    DA to rescue SA

  • @kholiswambozi9997
    @kholiswambozi9997 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    ANC and DA🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @mothusiemangselemane3629
    @mothusiemangselemane3629 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    failed to answer Q2

  • @ThuIaniNgobeni
    @ThuIaniNgobeni 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ian Cameron is the man

  • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
    @AndrewMcFarlane_1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    R30k per hour for a drone? Herron has no idea

  • @sokopinions
    @sokopinions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And that's SAs minister everybody!!!! 😅

  • @keaganscott5956
    @keaganscott5956 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bheki can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag...

  • @thandugonose9769
    @thandugonose9769 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We are never gonna win the fight against crime in SA as long as we are doing this politicking. Crime in SA has affects everyone and we must stand together to fight it instead of blaming each other, otherwise there will be no country for our kids.

  • @zwelonkelikhecks9075
    @zwelonkelikhecks9075 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    EFF all the way come 29 May we are ready ❤❤❤

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Dream on

    • @user-gc6wx1gr7k
      @user-gc6wx1gr7k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The dream is to inform that we are going through and looking brighter after 29 May.

  • @AustinGates1996
    @AustinGates1996 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Gayton's ability to engage in dialogue with both top global executives and gang leaders to negotiate terms of peace underscores his unique position to lead South Africa forward and effectively address crime.

    • @devilliersduplessis7904
      @devilliersduplessis7904 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Something about leopards and spits. His track records isn't great either, maybe if he partnered with someone morale with a track record?

  • @claradamons399
    @claradamons399 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ice Vehicles are used as public transport thats why our police transport are always out of order.

  • @fancyIOP
    @fancyIOP 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    LOL, Mama Zille.

  • @ayandamvana6249
    @ayandamvana6249 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    EFF will fight crime ⚫🔴🟢

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Criminals EFF

    • @user-gc6wx1gr7k
      @user-gc6wx1gr7k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Chest pain's..

    • @ferasmus1
      @ferasmus1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Pay back the VBS stolen money @ EFF

    • @ayandamvana6249
      @ayandamvana6249 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ferasmus1 You being the only one still on VBS should tell you 🤣🤣🤣 Either you're behind or you're dumb. You decide

  • @veronicakarstel9126
    @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are we supposed to understand these people? No wonder they don't get jobs

  • @user-tb4jv3tl4v
    @user-tb4jv3tl4v 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    bheki hambolala

  • @dineshanpillay5944
    @dineshanpillay5944 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Anc pays a lot for puppets

  • @BerlineRoseberry
    @BerlineRoseberry 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Political parties should campaign until the elections. After elections whoever is in power should stop politics and start to service the people. They can only win crime if they put their ideas and resources together and not focusing on individual political parties of who is the winner. Why can the army not be utilized to assist gang related crime ridden areas in the country. The current government have no political will to some crime or gaangsterism as the majority crimes are I the so-called colored mixed communities who does not support the current government. The government is also claiming taxes on those insurance claims.
    ie

    • @icno3508
      @icno3508 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No no this is banana south africa you can steal, loot, be corrupt and be incompetent but they will still vote for the AXIS OF EVIL 👹 EFF MK ANC = Low IQ PPL 😹

  • @paulrowe9486
    @paulrowe9486 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cele is am embarassment to the whole nation ???

  • @111MRrj
    @111MRrj 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Bheki moet slaap

  • @user-mg3pp7bz1e
    @user-mg3pp7bz1e 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Crime😢crime😢crime who will listen 2 our cries, cry my beloved people cry my beloved country CRIME IS OUT OF HAND the old man must go and rest he can't do anything he is tired, we tired 2 b tired of CRIME 😢😢😢😢😢

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I m afraid Crime Yours Minister Bheki Cele Don't take his Nation serieus they playing games with people which is Very Sad situation scarying living 🤔

  • @user-ni2db7vf3q
    @user-ni2db7vf3q 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Malema for president

    • @HemiJB91
      @HemiJB91 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lol might as well vote anc

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      EFF are losing votes

    • @BeleniYara-ow2zq
      @BeleniYara-ow2zq 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      EFF 🇿🇦💯🔥❤🌟 is ready to govern this country
      My vote belong to EFF ❤ 🇿🇦

  • @jadepalmer6338
    @jadepalmer6338 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can SA reclaim their streets? 🤔
    First off we need a minister of police that's not a gangster
    Then we need police who are fit enough to run after the criminals
    And not take bribes from the criminals or I should say not take cool drink money
    We need visibility not cops who are sitting at the station falling asleep in their chairs and get naar with you coming for an affidavit

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some coloureds choose gangsterism, it's power for a whie

  • @rushmore100
    @rushmore100 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Its great that so many political parties think the DA is the national government.

  • @thandolwethumlamla2740
    @thandolwethumlamla2740 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the DA boertjie has astrong racist character and we would never trust him

  • @breightscott
    @breightscott 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Lol ANC is a Joke and so is Al Jamah of lets not forget EFF. PA FOR THE WIN

    • @user-gc6wx1gr7k
      @user-gc6wx1gr7k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Party of abahumbe as their manifesto it has no capacity to handle its own..
      Party of mafias interested to enrich its owners with our mines..

  • @tinopopsyhove6747
    @tinopopsyhove6747 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    EFF ❤🎉😂

  • @fanelepatrick1438
    @fanelepatrick1438 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why now?

  • @moosesnWoop
    @moosesnWoop 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    IDK how cele can defend his work

    • @lebraa9233
      @lebraa9233 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cele His crazy Minister His defending himself absoluut nonsense speeched less full óf lies with corruption all those ANC Leaders Exitpolls

  • @mohaleSlebea776
    @mohaleSlebea776 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The DA biggest disappointment is that they deliver services to areas that are fully developed and leave those that less developed.

  • @YongaShologu-he9jj
    @YongaShologu-he9jj 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Monday we want all the presidents not just party members we want to see ramaphosas ability to debate

  • @zandigaga393
    @zandigaga393 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    DA 👎👎

    • @badboy15nd
      @badboy15nd 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The DA is the only political party that can save South Africa.❤

    • @carl4017
      @carl4017 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And when DA is gone then there will be no province to run to

    • @zandigaga393
      @zandigaga393 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @carl4017 Services only stay within the boarders of an urban suburb in any DA ran municipality especially in the western cape

    • @carl4017
      @carl4017 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zandigaga393 you mean services go to the people paying for those services within those urban areas. Large majority of DAs spending go on informal settlements despite the fact that they don't always pay for the services. If rate payers don't get serviced, they leave. How else do you expect the DA to keep rate payers in wp without giving them what they paid for?

  • @kgomotsomfisa7038
    @kgomotsomfisa7038 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    EFF all the way

  • @mohaleSlebea776
    @mohaleSlebea776 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Even those who do not want to admit know that The EFF is the only capacitated Organisation to lead SA

  • @glynisstevens7638
    @glynisstevens7638 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What rubbish that western cape is excluding people

  • @TheGuitarNewby
    @TheGuitarNewby 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fact of the matter is that only one of the panelists actually do work on the ground, and are involved in the communities. The rest are just yapping rhetoric.

  • @user-ni2db7vf3q
    @user-ni2db7vf3q 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Vivha eff

  • @babolico9354
    @babolico9354 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    EFF VIVA EFF 2024

  • @valsables5299
    @valsables5299 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DONT BE SO JEALOUS OF THE ANC

  • @valsables5299
    @valsables5299 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    THE ANC IS BOBAAS😂

  • @ayandaquku900
    @ayandaquku900 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Benzele bani?only white rich people, PANTSI NGE DDDDAAAA...DA PANTSI, VIVA MKONTO VIVA, FORWARD NGE MK PARTY PAMBILI ASIJIKI ASOYIKI SIYAYA, ASIBOYIKI SIYABAFUNA, AMANDLA

  • @zandigaga393
    @zandigaga393 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    💛🖤💚Viva ANC

  • @LehlohonoloCalf
    @LehlohonoloCalf 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    viva ANC

  • @BeleniYara-ow2zq
    @BeleniYara-ow2zq 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope you didn't use money for this useless debate
    Even school kids could debate much better than those political parties except the EFF
    EFF 🇿🇦 EFF ❤

  • @TheReintech
    @TheReintech 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a waste of time

  • @user-ds4mt9hf2z
    @user-ds4mt9hf2z 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We have dumped all non anc votes so that only anc wins viva anc viva

  • @khanyiso514
    @khanyiso514 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    VivaEFF viva!!❤❤❤

    • @user-bt6ex7kw5v
      @user-bt6ex7kw5v 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Rubbish EFF adding to crime with its foreigners

  • @icno3508
    @icno3508 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    29:15 HIGH QUALITY POLITICIAN 🏆

  • @blueberryhill6948
    @blueberryhill6948 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The province to lead all provinces ❤❤❤❤ The Western Cape 💅🏾🫶🏽💅🏾🫶🏽👍🏽

    • @herbtuck1481
      @herbtuck1481 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The province with the most murders

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well half of EC is here

    • @sabelosphalas1747
      @sabelosphalas1747 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@veronicakarstel9126you blame Eastern Cape? 😂