It's a typical RW gimmick - to fool low-information voters into thinking you're "cutting waste." Trump's pal Macri (Milei's political godfather) did the same thing in 2015-19: he downgraded ministries - but then expanded the number of secretariats and sub-secretariats by *75%* . His top officials stuffed every manner of relative, friend and mistress into these new posts - plus internet trolls (as a reward), and even Queen Máxima's disabled sister (to ingratiate himself with the Dutch Royals). The policy was jokingly referred to as "love in the time of austerity." Yes, it was longstanding practice (like here in the U.S.) - but, again, he expanded patronage by 75%, while fooling his zombie voters. Same with budget deficits, which quadrupled in peso terms.
I don’t think it’s a trumpification of Argentina.. you just have to understand that there was a whole social context behind the win of milei, like you said, three digit inflation, more than half of the country poor, corruption everywhere, so people were tired and they chose him. I think it’s understandable.
Exactly, they try to use populist as a bad term. All democratic governments should be populist, as in they're supposed to serve the majority of the population and pass bills that are popular amongst the people.
It feels rather disingenuous and un sophisticated for David to make this comparison. It's such an American thing to do... To force the world into a framework that makes sense from an American perspective. First of all, Milei is a liberal. Yes, look it up. I know... It means something different in the US. But Milei and his party are liberals in Argentina. Secondly, he is a libertarian. He is absolutely committed to small government and a balance budget. Neither of those things resembles Trumpism. Third, Argentina is not the U.S. People need to stop looking down on other countries because their solutions don't make sense to us. Argentina is facing hyperinflation or about to face it. Radical change is needed. I don't know if what Milei proposes will work. But I am eagerly observing the experiment. I find it disappointing for David Pakman to speak so ignorantly and in a partisan fashion about this. I expect him to be a bit more sophisticated and nuanced.
@margaretkelly3228 it'll be similar to Italy.. I mean yeah, he is out there.. but maybe that's just passion. It's a difficult situation Argentina find themselves in.. The issue is most definitely collectivists of any kind.. Be it fascist or communist or anything in between.
Doubtful. His policies are *the very same ones* that derailed the country for good under the dictatorship (foreign debt, capital flight, economic "shock" that only makes matters worse, etc.). He's even pledged to "use troops" on those who protest - just like the dictators did.
I do not think so. The man has so many crazy opinions. Also the personal cult is worrisome. Generally with this kind of leaders the personal cult thing will be dominant part. So it will not matter that he is liberterian or Anarcho capitalist or whatever nonsense.
@@Progressive2024He is louder and he sounds scarier but he is just show for the assclowns who voted him. Like privatizing everything was a realistic solution.
Hi David, here from Rosario. You are right, the vote was between corruption and madness. The thing is that Milei has no legislative support, so he will have to negotiate and many of the most outlandish ideas won't pass. In order to keep control he will have to move to the centre, which is the hope most non supporters that voted for him have.
One of the options talked about selling organs and children. He talks with his dead dogs and he fuc#s his sister. It was easy to choose and ppl elected THIS guy
Economists don't agree with Milei? Milei himself is an economist! Sorry, but he isn't really Trumpian in any way, apart from being against abortion rights. He's wrong on that, but even on that he is not really Trumpian. Does anyone actually believe that Trump is truly anti-abortion? Milei is. He's wrong, but he's sincere.
So he didn't propose cutting education spending like Trump? He didn't claim climate change is a socialist hoax? He didn't claim vaccines killed people? He doesn't claim illegals on Argentina are the problem? Fyi, he has done all of those so you're ignorant to what he's said or you're just ignorant to the crater that is going to be where Argentina once had an economy.
Economists disagree with him so much that they consider him an Orthodox guy and the markets soared the day after he was elected. Pakman is just an idiot.
Argentina is trapped in a groundhog day loop, where people keep trying to solve the same problems with the same insane solutions. The economy has been dolarized before and will fail again.
Hey, if you wanna understand why so many false populists are gaining power around the globe you should read "Engineers of Chaos" by Giuliano Da Empoli. He explains it really well! Take care :)
Unfortunately people lack intelligence and are easily influenced. They’ve been given a platform. A majority of people can’t even comprehend that psychology and other tactics are used to influence peoples decisions. Personally, I like using the Walmart analogy. We park in the same area every time, we walk down the same isles, and usually grab the same things.
The anti christ is coming in to the scene soon and he's needing to set up these sychophants in every democratic country globally in order to rule globally.😂
A question for you David, if Argentina suddenly takes off in the next 3 or 4 years, would you be willing to accept that socialism is sh1t and free markets and Capitalism is the way out of poverty??? Would you???
And so is this Milei, who's a garden-variety fascist. "Liberty" *only* for big money (at the country's expense) - but GOP-style impositions, or outright quashing, for everyone else.
Getting rid of Public Works and infrastructure is Dumb as there is a State Highway in Argentina Patagonia part of this Highway is a Dirt Road due to Corruption since 2016.
Trump must be stopped at all costs. Get a decent republican in there. As a liberal leaning person, I'm willing to take the hit. But Trump must not be allowed power again.
@@Facehook42Any Republican will still be as bad as Trump. C'mon. Their ALL a nightmare and worship Trump. Vote Blue!! Biden has the experience, temperament and sanity for the job....Biden2024 💙🇺🇸
This is the problem with politics: None of the options voters are given are good. The choices are BAD, WORSE, and WORST. We have this problem in Canada. 3 main parties who are all failures - either federally or provincially - to one degree or another. Yes, it's not as bad as Argentina or even the US. But it's still pretty damn pathetic.
It's not the "problem" of politics. It's the feature of politics. Your "good" is always someone else's bad, and even if you're happy with all the choices, someone out there is decrying them as bad worse and worst. It's not some new thing, it is how it works. In this case, it is a case of "bad and worse" for the majority of the people, but for some (especially the rich and powerful) these are actually very good options - they will most certainly benefit from either one. The actually "pathetic" part about all this is that people who can admit that it is a choice between bad and worse continue to choose "worse" because "worse" is new and "bad" is old. Their concept of progress is that change is always better.
If only money wasn't an issue , people like myself could run and win , but we don't have the money to back us ! I believe I could actually make a difference in America , the right way , but I lack the money to buy people votes , and that is what it comes down to , money to buy people.
Are you kidding? Really? Where is the utopia on the planet you'd rather live? Give your head a shake dude. Travel the world, and then come back and tell me Canada is shit. If all the options are bad, perhaps you should run for office and fix it all. You obviously know how.
german here...I know how that feels. Our right wing party is terribly disorganized and never even uttered a fully fledged program, still they poll over 20% because "at least they're not in charge and failing like the others", they're even named "Alternative for Germany" because they stand for nothing they could use as a slogan!
Milei is NOT like Trump. In spite of his crazy behavior, he's an intelectual and he has read about economics. the way I see it, he's got theories that he'll try to apply, but reality may be against his changes.
He's read about ecomonics... Damn, what a brilliant and mighty intellectual he is. I agree he isn't like Trump. Trump is a bit dumb and a vile narcissist who would be happy watching the country burn from his golden toilet in his castle if he still had his cult worshipping him. Milei might genuinely be schizophrenic. He has said he communicates with his dogs (including a dead one) via a mystic, and these dogs inform him on issues of general strategy, political analysis, and the economy. He had a dog that died in 2017, and he believes they met in a past life, the dog was a lion at the Roman Colosseum, and now this dog sits next to God up in heaven, and Milei and his dog speak directly to God and are currently on a mission given to them by God. Milei will either cause more damage or accomplish nothing.
What?! He is q extremist! He is allied to Bolsonaro. His VP is a military dictatorship glorifier. Learn kids: any far right ideology is one step removes from a authoritarian nightmare.
giant L? they're calling his economy a miracle now, record turn around time, record deflation, argentina is on the correct path, because they didn't elect a leftist pig.
I would take Milei any day over Trump, in particular in a situation like in Argentina. First of all, he's more of a libertarian who is focused only on the economy. It doesn't mean that I like him or that his measures are ones that I support in general, but in the current situation he is the lesser evil.
It’s incredible that Argentina, being one of the largest and naturally richest countries in this continent, has struggled for such a long time with the individuals who are elected as presidents or who have been in control of the country. It’s a big shame. I hope that in the near future they can find someone who can help the country and its people to become the best of what they can offer. Good luck!
America has destabilized every country south of us for well over a century, it's not very surprising that Wall Street didn't want them to make money off their own assets when that's been their thing for like I said over a century to force our military to destabilize any country Wall Street sees a profit in taking over.
It actually isn't crazy or strange at all... look at California. 5th largest economy in the world. Quite a few .01%ers... TONS of poor people. Run by... lefties. AFUERA!
They have to call everyone that isn't them right wing or fascist or nazi. They have to put the fear into people so they can control them. No better tool for control than fear
@@patrickvangelder3349 abortion is a decisive issue amongst libertarians some are for it some against it is not a major tenant if the ideology we care more about individual liberty and economic freedom
David, I know it won't get big views but I think it would be worthwhile to do a talk with an academic/ author about Argentinian history and the reasons behind its economic basketcase status.
well it never failed in El Salvador and Ecuador and Panama who dollarized their currencies , all those countries are doing fine and much better than they were when they had their own currencies
Alsooo David !! It was an hour before calling the elections and Massa came out and conceded to the winner !! Pledging a peaceful and helpful assistance in the transition of power ….T@&$&p still hasn’t done that !! I think it was a day to be proud for the Argentinos that True Democracy was held in the most peaceful manner .. you can’t always get what you want / but if you try sometimes / you just might find / you get what you need ooyyeeahhh / stay strong d Parkman
Peron, and by default Peronism, was an admirer of Mussolini and tried to implement his policies, so basically, yes. Add that to the corrupt nepotism of having the same family dynasty rule the country for the last 20 years and you can figure out why things turned out how they did.
@@InzidenzPanik How is he fascist? He and his entourage were sadistic dictators but there was no fascist agenda or cultural promotions of such ideals. Being an authoritarian doesn’t make you a fascist by default
Milei is an economist with a very solid academic career in the area. You might want to try to do a bit of research before taking his exuberant, eccentric presidential persona - political marketing - as a reason to discredit the only guy with a reasonable plan to revert kirchnerism. He’s already switched to statesman mode, as you can see from his post-election interviews, but I guess some people who want to be taken seriously keep demeaning the guy who has a shot at fixing their country. Good luck with that…
Argentina is a resource rich country, once one of the wealthiest countries in the world. The establishment oligarchs have driven into the ground over the last 50 years. Milles by dollarizing the economy will break the country free from the dictatorial central bank which acts in favor of the wealthy plutocrats. Not so much Trump- like as a necessary change in direction for a misdirected potentially wealthy country.
Yeah. Dave really drank the Big Media Kool-Aid from Argentina - which is like having almost nothing but Fox News, with RW regimes (mainly the last dictatorship, and then Macri) having tried to shut down the few left-wing choices left.
I'm a fan of yours. I'm Argentinean , live in the US , consider myself a progressive and Trump a wannabe Mussolini , yet i support Milei . Things are complex.... and contextual; so contextual that neither me nor you David are Peronists (the party of Evita) and given that we are progressives here , people would guess we should be. Latinamerica has 3 dollarized countries already , in Argentina could be a blessing in disguise....well see
I hate to break it to you, but leftists like pakman do not consider the complexities of other nations' politics. They have been driven blind by Trump. I support Milei too (the message he sends is based).
te equivocas, un peronista ideológicamente es trampista, por el principio justicialista y patriota, miles esta mas alineado con el progresismo liberal y el conservadurismo económico, en si es un libertario, termino poco familiar para la política mundial, miles es superior a Trump, a Biden o a cualquier político porque su principio moral es individualista
Sounds like a case of "out of the frying pan, into the fire". (Maybe the other way 'round in the short term.) I feel horrible for sane Argentinians. Each and every people deserves better than this.
The funny thing is that insane people think they're sane... Watching someone vote a cognitively impaired stroke victim in to the white house and expecting normalcy pretty much nails the definition of insanity.
Maybe you should be afraid of the other candidate, Massa, who is said to be related to drug dealers. I don´t like peronism, so I voted for Milei, not because he had convinced me, I just didn´t want Massa to win. i was told if I didn´t vote for Milei I would give Massa the chance to win. In reality, I didn´t like any of the candidates at all. As an Argentine, I like Trump, bc Biden supported Thatcher during the Malvinas war when he was a senator. Greetings from Entre Ríos province, Argentina.
This guy is not crazy, he is a genius, he created a striking and charismatic character because he knew that this was how he managed to attract attention (since he practically had no funds for a presidential campaign) now that he is president-elect, you listen to him speak and he is a guy much more sober than the rest of the candidates...I hope he does well for the good of that great country, with enormous potential, called Argentina!
That's not even remotely true. No funds? Mate... "Argentinian billionaire Eduardo Eurnekian plugged the wild-haired economist relentlessly on his A24 media network" to quote todays Guardian. The man got political ads for free. He also has encouraged several of his staff to join Milei's campaign.
I lived in Argentina in 2001 for a time with my family as a kid . When I got there , 1 dollar was equal to 1 peso . I’m a matter of months , $1 was equal to 8 pesos . Fast forward 22 years , Argentina has one of the worst inflation in the world. I think only third or forth to Lebanon , Venezuelan and Yemen. Other countries in Latin America dolarized their economies . In my country El Salvador, we adopted the US dollar in 2001, it has kept our economy stable . Ofcourse the situation is different in Argentina . El Salvador had low inflation during that process but if it worked in Equador , Panama and El Salvador , it could work there too 🤷🏻♂️
To be honest, I’ve never viewed Argentina as a democracy. I have friends that came from Argentina in the 60s with their parents and the parents had horror stories to tell. But they were the nicest people and said everyone should at least visit Argentina.
Yes, I agree. Argentina has charming cities and architecture, even though wealth inequality is also visible. The Patagonia area has some of the best mountain scenery. Unexpectedly has exceptional pizza, as well. Everyone should visit whenever Argentina has the sense to remove their Boris Johnson/Bozo the Clown, again. Until then, cry for Argentina.
@@tom-kz9pbLefty Tossers! - Boris Johnson Also I can't wait for Argentina begins economic recovery under this guy... I love reading the new state approved talking points the left concocts😂
"The day one Orange-Haired extremist came to power in a democracy, all the extremists in the world started getting ideas." - Abhijit Naskar, Vande Vasudhaivam: 100 Sonnets for Our Planetary Pueblo
So you don't like the idea of trying to save the country by cutting out useless programs. But at the same time you say they have a spending problem. 😅😅😅
We were the watermark of democracy and power to the people for many 3rd world countries. Now that Trump has legitimized his own contempt for our Constitution and Institutions others are sure to follow.
Millei is actually the lesser of the wo evils, Argentinans prefer the USD sicne the peso sucks bad, due to very high inflation and very high interest rates. I think Milei's policies may only be the one to give a massive boost to Argentina to get out of the mess its in, decades of peronista misrule has led to this .
I lived in Argentina from 1988 (Alfonsín was President) to 1990 (Menem was President when I left). I could never understand the politics, but I felt (and feel still now) so sorry that such a wonderful country with such wonderful people and culture has so much economic hardship.
Give the guy a chance. Wanting to remove the ministerial portfolios (or whatever you call them) does not mean that he doesn't care about those things necessarily, more that he thinks that those things are not promoting those things well.
@@emaarredondo-librarianWe also don't have supplies in the hospitals and it takes up to a year to give you an emergency appointment, but hey, health is "free" Gringos don't know what they're talking about and they still have their opinion, nothing new...
Maybe Americans should get more involved and informed about politics rather than treating it like a form of entertainment? Like read books, in depth articlea, stop watching 24 hour cable newstainment.
Actually, Javier Milei is not a far right winger. He is a self described libertarian (which means being fiscally conservative and socially liberal). For those of you who do not know what Libertarianism entails (not to be confused with Liberalism), here's a quick crash course: 1) Let everyone do whatever they want, as long as they don't infringe on other's liberty, property and fruits of their labor (i.e. taxation... which leads to the second point) 2) Low to no taxation. Government should be funded through altruism and philanthropy (So if you want the government to hand out subsidies and tax breaks, shoot rockets up into the sky, provide other countries with military/humanitarian aid, by all means: write them a check. Just don't force others to do so who don't agree with that manner of tax-payer's money spending). This would also give the government an incentive to be less corrupt, work efficiently and to listen to their constituencies (because they actually need to perform and keep the customers (a.k.a. we the people) happy) 3) The only centralized top-down areas of government should be National Security and Administration of Justice 4) The idea is to encourage individual responsibility and freedom 5) Libertarians believe in innovative free-market solutions (even for roads, infrastructure, health, retirement etc.) to drive up competition, thereby driving down the cost and making it high-quality. Just think of the iPhone, Flatscreen TVs, Health procedures (which ironically (I wonder why?) aren't covered by insurance such as Lasek, rhinoplasties, and other free market conveniences/products and services we are able to afford much more easily than the rest of the world. 6) Libertarians support even the farthest left-wing ideas including drug decriminalization, rehabilitative justice, LGTQB-rights, gay marriage, abortion and euthanasia... as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's rights, it should be 100% legal. So in summary, libertarians want gun-towing gays to be able to defend their property while smoking pot and paying low taxes... seriously! This should be possible in a free society. People can say what they want about libertarians, but whatever neo-lib/neo-con social democracy solutions we've had in the past couple hundreds of years... haven't worked... perhaps freedom (and a "live-and-let-live" attitude) is the answer. It also eliminates the ridiculous division, hatred and polarization we have in our country. Just food for thought💯
I'm not sure why you're toting this generalized, American-centric notion of libertarianism considering it does not apply to Milei. He's a self-described minarchist and anarcho-capitalist. He strongly opposes some of the things you mention, like abortion and euthenasia, and limiting the immigration of people he'd deem undesirable. He rose to power using the rightwing populist tactics of Trump and Bolsonaro. I know he wants to dollarize and abolish the central bank, but in true libertarian fashion, I don't think he really has well thought out plans and policy.
Well no. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role - and especially the power - of the government is minimized. Libertarianism / Minarchism and all the ideologies based on Classical Liberalism are on the far-right side.
David, sir, given your Argentine origins, might you be able to offer us a bit of a history lesson / insightful thoughts about the Peron era ? Over the last decade or so I’ve developed an interest in this topic, but have found very little in terms of documentary films, discussions, or other easily accessible sources of information. While the film adaptation of Evita (which I love, btw), does provide a tantalizing glimpse of the era, the few documentaries I’ve seen listed on major streaming platforms all seem to be “unavailable at this time”. It seems like there could be some interesting parallels to explore between then and now. Having been a dramatic and impactful episode in history, the void in coverage is frustrating. PS: As a bonus, certain of Andrew L. Weber’s lyrics from Evita definitely offer golden opportunities for Trumpian parody. I highly recommend listening with this in mind 🤓
Solo una precaución, tenés que tener cuidado que en el proceso de aprender más sobre Perón, termines "adoctrinado", obvio dependiendo de los documentales que veas y de los pensamientos de las personas que realizan dichos documentales y/o reportajes, Suerte en tu búsqueda.
Perón was *a very authoritarian* social democrat: very pro-labor, women, minorities, religious freedom (first to include Jews in government) - and very much against corporate monopolies, absentee landowners, and holy rollers. He also slashed the (then-bloated) defense budget, and plowed the savings into social programs and public works - while paying off most foreign debt (which he warned would be used to plunder the country, if allowed to grow - as in fact later happened). But as his censorship, persecutions and harassment show, he was a real authoritarian - like almost all Argentine presidents before him (and many of those after him, most recently Macri). Nothing like the 1976 dictatorship Milei admires - but still. He also turned the country's tax-cheat elites against their own country - which they've since feel "was lost to the black-heads" (i.e. Perón's often mestizo supporters). If you combined *Bernie Sanders' policies, with Trump's tactics and crooked ethics* - you'd probably get someone like Perón (except he was the one coup'ed by right-wingers). Latin politics are full of layers and drama - especially Argentina's.
@@tenorly Peron sounds pretty good at first. Too bad he went back. If Milei admires the junta of the 70's Argentina is in big trouble. Dirty War, infamous campaign waged from 1976 to 1983 by Argentina's military dictatorship against suspected left-wing political opponents. It is estimated that between 10,000 and 30,000 citizens were killed; many of them were “disappeared”-seized by the authorities and never heard from again. I fervently Argentines don't allow that. Then corruption, bad as it is, is better.
David. Be careful when travelling back to Argentina now… You are a critic of the state and I fear just like critics of any other dictators, you’re in a dangerous place don’t quit what you’re doing, we all appreciate it but just be careful.
The type of 'state' that censors and tortures people are typically hard leaning left governments. By the time David gets to Argentina, the socialist parasites will be out of power and David will be able to enjoy his freedom of speech as he should.
You don't know any dictator and you only call that name the democratically elected one you don't like. Don't worry, gringo, here's what each candidate really proposed: - Milei made it clear that he would privatize the public media at the service of the state. - Massa literally proposed controlling the media such as the internet.
You're not kidding. Milei is an *avowed* authoritarian, who has threatened to "use troops" protesters (which he knows his shock policies will trigger), and even named that lush *Patricia Bullrich* to the Security Ministry. Last time she held the post (2015-19), she was embroiled in numerous *warrantless surveillance* scandals - including *Super Mario Bros* (1,500+ public figures spied on -including allies), *d'Alessiogate* (millions extorted from businessmen, who were smeared if they didn't pay), *Submarinegate* (espionage on the families of the 44 killed in the 2017 ARA San Juan tragedy - believed to be a cover-up of a UK attack), and *GestaPRO* (a ring set up to frame troublesome labor leaders). When asked why her phone number showed up on extortionist Marcelo d'Alessio's phone, Bullrich scoffed that "her grandson must've picked up the phone" (!). So you can imagine what might happen. And the right regularly uses - and abuses - facial recognition tech in Buenos Aires (whose local gov't they control).
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To be fair. You probably don't need 90% of those government agencies.
It's a typical RW gimmick - to fool low-information voters into thinking you're "cutting waste."
Trump's pal Macri (Milei's political godfather) did the same thing in 2015-19: he downgraded ministries - but then expanded the number of secretariats and sub-secretariats by *75%* .
His top officials stuffed every manner of relative, friend and mistress into these new posts - plus internet trolls (as a reward), and even Queen Máxima's disabled sister (to ingratiate himself with the Dutch Royals).
The policy was jokingly referred to as "love in the time of austerity."
Yes, it was longstanding practice (like here in the U.S.) - but, again, he expanded patronage by 75%, while fooling his zombie voters.
Same with budget deficits, which quadrupled in peso terms.
Nope. Infringement on individual liberty.
Seems like it is working. Would you reconsider your stance?
I don’t think it’s a trumpification of Argentina.. you just have to understand that there was a whole social context behind the win of milei, like you said, three digit inflation, more than half of the country poor, corruption everywhere, so people were tired and they chose him. I think it’s understandable.
Not to leftists. They support stroke victims and authoritarian hacks.
Exactly, they try to use populist as a bad term. All democratic governments should be populist, as in they're supposed to serve the majority of the population and pass bills that are popular amongst the people.
Cómo argentino, te doy toda la razón.
David pakman is a brainwashed anti trump lunatic he thinks everyone who disagrees with his far left ideology is automatically a trumper
It feels rather disingenuous and un sophisticated for David to make this comparison. It's such an American thing to do... To force the world into a framework that makes sense from an American perspective.
First of all, Milei is a liberal. Yes, look it up. I know... It means something different in the US. But Milei and his party are liberals in Argentina.
Secondly, he is a libertarian. He is absolutely committed to small government and a balance budget. Neither of those things resembles Trumpism.
Third, Argentina is not the U.S. People need to stop looking down on other countries because their solutions don't make sense to us. Argentina is facing hyperinflation or about to face it. Radical change is needed.
I don't know if what Milei proposes will work. But I am eagerly observing the experiment. I find it disappointing for David Pakman to speak so ignorantly and in a partisan fashion about this. I expect him to be a bit more sophisticated and nuanced.
El Salvador and Ecuador have been using the US Dollar for many years
11 months after, things are going pretty well, under the starting circumstances.
He is smarter than you, and well versed in economics.
I think Argentina will do very well under Javier. Good luck from Australia.
@margaretkelly3228 it'll be similar to Italy..
I mean yeah, he is out there.. but maybe that's just passion.
It's a difficult situation Argentina find themselves in.. The issue is most definitely collectivists of any kind.. Be it fascist or communist or anything in between.
What happened to channel 9 your good morning America Georgie and Carl in the other girl I don’t know her name she’s always reporting in the field
Doubtful.
His policies are *the very same ones* that derailed the country for good under the dictatorship (foreign debt, capital flight, economic "shock" that only makes matters worse, etc.). He's even pledged to "use troops" on those who protest - just like the dictators did.
I do not think so. The man has so many crazy opinions. Also the personal cult is worrisome. Generally with this kind of leaders the personal cult thing will be dominant part. So it will not matter that he is liberterian or Anarcho capitalist or whatever nonsense.
Not really
Hace años que no tenemos un presidente honesto como el no está comprometido con nadie
Argentinians NEVER had a really true option for president.. good luck Argentinos! really mean that, from a Salvadorean in Canada
You're not Argentinian, gringo. You wouldn't undestand what the fuck poverty is.
Isn’t it Argentines plural?
He seems worse than trumo
@@Progressive2024He is louder and he sounds scarier but he is just show for the assclowns who voted him. Like privatizing everything was a realistic solution.
@@egx161Argentinos is the spanish plural
I lived in Argentina under Menem and Cavallo in 93. That country is crazy. Hopefully Melei finally puts a nail in Peronism.
I fear for Argentina
MIlei cree que Cavalo es el mejor ministro y menem el mejor presidente
You’re saying that peronismo was bad? You’re out you fucking mine!! Is the only good era that Argentinian had. You don’t know shit about politics
@@diegueteee well, we all saw how that worked out.
Menem 2.0 si les va bien…
For you everybody is far right
the normal thing for communists
Make American Great Again! Make Argentina Great Again! 🇺🇸🇦🇷
Lol argentina and america are backsliding into s hole illiberal states
Hi David, here from Rosario. You are right, the vote was between corruption and madness. The thing is that Milei has no legislative support, so he will have to negotiate and many of the most outlandish ideas won't pass. In order to keep control he will have to move to the centre, which is the hope most non supporters that voted for him have.
Menos mal va a tener un contrapeso el Ciruja.
One simp to another. Hi David. Wtf.
Sorry you had to choose between such terrible candidates.
Taxation is theft.
the vote in South America is between corruption and corruption
"Trump-like lunatic" lol
Yup
NO, he understands economics.
@@tabo01 to leftists, if you are not a trademark comrade, you are a far-right crazy person.
Both options were horrendous indeed, it was a lose lose situation for the argentinian people.
One of the options talked about selling organs and children. He talks with his dead dogs and he fuc#s his sister. It was easy to choose and ppl elected THIS guy
Don’t cry for me Argentina
You're not Argentinian, gringo. You wouldn't undestand what the fuck poverty is.
Similar to Trump vs Biden ironically
Not really, ceepee
Economists don't agree with Milei? Milei himself is an economist! Sorry, but he isn't really Trumpian in any way, apart from being against abortion rights. He's wrong on that, but even on that he is not really Trumpian. Does anyone actually believe that Trump is truly anti-abortion? Milei is. He's wrong, but he's sincere.
So he didn't propose cutting education spending like Trump? He didn't claim climate change is a socialist hoax? He didn't claim vaccines killed people? He doesn't claim illegals on Argentina are the problem?
Fyi, he has done all of those so you're ignorant to what he's said or you're just ignorant to the crater that is going to be where Argentina once had an economy.
Economists disagree with him so much that they consider him an Orthodox guy and the markets soared the day after he was elected. Pakman is just an idiot.
If a guy with a chainsaw and a wild haircut, whose school nickname was was "El Loco" ("The Madman") cannot solve all your serious problems, who can?
😂 Right
Idk, but the guys who led Argentina to have 60% child poverty are not 😂
Ok what ever like you cannot see the reality of what’s going on .
El no es loco es una persona de bien
Lo mejor que nos pudo pasar es que ganara Milei. Ya bastante daño nos causó tantos años de corrupción y socialismo berreta.
Argentina is trapped in a groundhog day loop, where people keep trying to solve the same problems with the same insane solutions. The economy has been dolarized before and will fail again.
Milei is by far the best president in human history
Dutch president is now a populist anti authoritarian libertarian too!
This is amazing.
Weird because libertarians are pro immigration
He is doing great things
Man… just wtf is going on globally (not just the US) with these idiots being given power.
Hey, if you wanna understand why so many false populists are gaining power around the globe you should read "Engineers of Chaos" by Giuliano Da Empoli. He explains it really well! Take care :)
Populist idiots often get elected during times of major economic and political strife.
The world never really changes.
Unfortunately people lack intelligence and are easily influenced. They’ve been given a platform. A majority of people can’t even comprehend that psychology and other tactics are used to influence peoples decisions. Personally, I like using the Walmart analogy. We park in the same area every time, we walk down the same isles, and usually grab the same things.
Yes... I really hope that we in germany would only be hit mildly. We have a lot of far right idiots waiting to be elected or already being elected.
The anti christ is coming in to the scene soon and he's needing to set up these sychophants in every democratic country globally in order to rule globally.😂
A question for you David, if Argentina suddenly takes off in the next 3 or 4 years, would you be willing to accept that socialism is sh1t and free markets and Capitalism is the way out of poverty??? Would you???
Trump is the opposite of a libertarian.
How so? He now proposes terminating the constitution, most of the government that would remain after, and is very anti regulation like libertarians.
Yeah exactly. And they know that. They snuffed Ron Paul too. If you aren't a leftist they will smear you. Even if it means disingenuous comparisons.
By today's standards he is
@@YankeeDoodle2 What dies that mean?
And so is this Milei, who's a garden-variety fascist.
"Liberty" *only* for big money (at the country's expense) - but GOP-style impositions, or outright quashing, for everyone else.
Getting rid of Public Works and infrastructure is Dumb as there is a State Highway in Argentina Patagonia part of this Highway is a Dirt Road due to Corruption since 2016.
Long live Milei and the libertarian movement, which is not far right…
The world has gone to hell in a hand basket. People around the world need to wake up. BEFORE IT REALLY TO LATE.
As an Argentinian, we're fine. We don't need your condolences.
Espérate que empiece el 🎪. Los payasos lunáticos nunca decepcionan. Solo espera
Pakman is living the fruits of capitalist American society after escaping socialist Argentina. But doesn't want Argentina to become capitalist.
Iam from India and these American radical leftists are only here to impose their ideology unto other nations as well
@@userre85Eh?
Oh, you just proved the point David made about his defenders coming out of the woodworks.
Will you though?
We can’t let this happen again in America
Vote Blue!
@@AnnaCookieZemanBiden is doing his best to make sure trump is re elected.
Actual cringe
Trump must be stopped at all costs. Get a decent republican in there. As a liberal leaning person, I'm willing to take the hit. But Trump must not be allowed power again.
@@Facehook42Any Republican will still be as bad as Trump. C'mon. Their ALL a nightmare and worship Trump. Vote Blue!! Biden has the experience, temperament and sanity for the job....Biden2024 💙🇺🇸
This is the problem with politics: None of the options voters are given are good. The choices are BAD, WORSE, and WORST. We have this problem in Canada. 3 main parties who are all failures - either federally or provincially - to one degree or another. Yes, it's not as bad as Argentina or even the US. But it's still pretty damn pathetic.
It's not the "problem" of politics. It's the feature of politics. Your "good" is always someone else's bad, and even if you're happy with all the choices, someone out there is decrying them as bad worse and worst. It's not some new thing, it is how it works. In this case, it is a case of "bad and worse" for the majority of the people, but for some (especially the rich and powerful) these are actually very good options - they will most certainly benefit from either one. The actually "pathetic" part about all this is that people who can admit that it is a choice between bad and worse continue to choose "worse" because "worse" is new and "bad" is old. Their concept of progress is that change is always better.
Not enough people like any of the "better" options. If any "good" options had enough support, they would be elected to lead one of the main parties.
If only money wasn't an issue , people like myself could run and win , but we don't have the money to back us ! I believe I could actually make a difference in America , the right way , but I lack the money to buy people votes , and that is what it comes down to , money to buy people.
Are you kidding? Really? Where is the utopia on the planet you'd rather live? Give your head a shake dude. Travel the world, and then come back and tell me Canada is shit. If all the options are bad, perhaps you should run for office and fix it all. You obviously know how.
german here...I know how that feels. Our right wing party is terribly disorganized and never even uttered a fully fledged program, still they poll over 20% because "at least they're not in charge and failing like the others", they're even named "Alternative for Germany" because they stand for nothing they could use as a slogan!
Fascists and dance floors just dont mix.
Milei is NOT like Trump. In spite of his crazy behavior, he's an intelectual and he has read about economics. the way I see it, he's got theories that he'll try to apply, but reality may be against his changes.
He's read about ecomonics... Damn, what a brilliant and mighty intellectual he is. I agree he isn't like Trump. Trump is a bit dumb and a vile narcissist who would be happy watching the country burn from his golden toilet in his castle if he still had his cult worshipping him. Milei might genuinely be schizophrenic. He has said he communicates with his dogs (including a dead one) via a mystic, and these dogs inform him on issues of general strategy, political analysis, and the economy. He had a dog that died in 2017, and he believes they met in a past life, the dog was a lion at the Roman Colosseum, and now this dog sits next to God up in heaven, and Milei and his dog speak directly to God and are currently on a mission given to them by God. Milei will either cause more damage or accomplish nothing.
Hitler, Lenin and Mao were intellectuals too.
What?! He is q extremist! He is allied to Bolsonaro. His VP is a military dictatorship glorifier. Learn kids: any far right ideology is one step removes from a authoritarian nightmare.
Corrupt systems never want to relinquish power. He will require continued support from the people, keep him and everyone in govt honest.
There are no winners there. Argentina will soon not be a country at all. Cant believe they have survived up to THIS point.
So essentially either way everyone in Argentina just took a Giant L.
giant L? they're calling his economy a miracle now, record turn around time, record deflation, argentina is on the correct path, because they didn't elect a leftist pig.
We took a giant W 😏
I would take Milei any day over Trump, in particular in a situation like in Argentina. First of all, he's more of a libertarian who is focused only on the economy. It doesn't mean that I like him or that his measures are ones that I support in general, but in the current situation he is the lesser evil.
Time for a song!
"Don't cry for meeeeeee
ARGENTIIIIIIINA!" ✌💖
Economic desperation is a b*tch.
So basically it was a choice between puke and diarrhea. Very bad situation for the people of Argentina!
No, they were in a bad position.
480 % Inflation in Argentina 🇦🇷 before Election 🗳️ 😂
It’s incredible that Argentina, being one of the largest and naturally richest countries in this continent, has struggled for such a long time with the individuals who are elected as presidents or who have been in control of the country. It’s a big shame. I hope that in the near future they can find someone who can help the country and its people to become the best of what they can offer. Good luck!
America has destabilized every country south of us for well over a century, it's not very surprising that Wall Street didn't want them to make money off their own assets when that's been their thing for like I said over a century to force our military to destabilize any country Wall Street sees a profit in taking over.
Where's all the candidates?
Thank you!
It actually isn't crazy or strange at all... look at California. 5th largest economy in the world. Quite a few .01%ers... TONS of poor people.
Run by... lefties. AFUERA!
Debs husband says Argentina is an excellent example of the results of socialism.
Argentina's leaders have governed so poorly, even a Trumper would be an improvement there. What a mess.
Trumper would not be an improvement. Trump is heading toward fascism. We're in big trouble if Trump wins. I fervently hope he goes to jail.
He’s generally been described as “Libertarian” which is not the same thing as “far right”…
if, both Trump and Bolsonaro endorse you, you are a bona fide far right lunatic
he is also against abortion which doesn't sound libertarian
He is far right. Libertarians want to cripple democratic institutions. Dont get fooled by propaganda.
They have to call everyone that isn't them right wing or fascist or nazi. They have to put the fear into people so they can control them. No better tool for control than fear
@@patrickvangelder3349 abortion is a decisive issue amongst libertarians some are for it some against it is not a major tenant if the ideology we care more about individual liberty and economic freedom
My family and I havebeen planning a trip to Buenos Aires Jan/Feb. Should we alter those plans?
Why would you? Everything is probably dirt cheap right now there
David, I know it won't get big views but I think it would be worthwhile to do a talk with an academic/ author about Argentinian history and the reasons behind its economic basketcase status.
David is seeing Trump everywhere. Pakman doesn't understand foreign politics... he only understands "if Trump likes thing, thing must be bad."
well it never failed in El Salvador and Ecuador and Panama who dollarized their currencies , all those countries are doing fine and much better than they were when they had their own currencies
LONG LIVE MILEI!!!
Just not as President of Argentina
@@ABC_Guest In his short time has done and fixed more things than any other previous president in Argentina.
MTG posted that same video and praised Argentina and their decision. Go figure. 🤡
Alsooo David !! It was an hour before calling the elections and Massa came out and conceded to the winner !! Pledging a peaceful and helpful assistance in the transition of power ….T@&$&p still hasn’t done that !! I think it was a day to be proud for the Argentinos that True Democracy was held in the most peaceful manner .. you can’t always get what you want / but if you try sometimes / you just might find / you get what you need ooyyeeahhh / stay strong d Parkman
It didn’t work when both Trump and Bolsario were in power. What will this guy do differently?
I feel sorry for your family, friends, and Argentina.
You're not Argentinian, gringo. You wouldn't undestand what the fuck poverty is.
Dont cry for us
Feels like there's gonna be a lot of opposition protests in the future against Milei.
Cope harder
@@bigpicklesso you think having a man hearing voices in the highest office is a good idea?
United Corporation of America is very happy to see this. A country that doesn't need to be toppled to be exploited, with open arms 🤗😘🤗😘
Doesnt Argentina have a history of electing facists?
Not really. Check the Wikipedia article.
Peron, and by default Peronism, was an admirer of Mussolini and tried to implement his policies, so basically, yes. Add that to the corrupt nepotism of having the same family dynasty rule the country for the last 20 years and you can figure out why things turned out how they did.
@@UmbraHandyou forgot Videla
@@InzidenzPanik How is he fascist? He and his entourage were sadistic dictators but there was no fascist agenda or cultural promotions of such ideals. Being an authoritarian doesn’t make you a fascist by default
Milei is an economist with a very solid academic career in the area. You might want to try to do a bit of research before taking his exuberant, eccentric presidential persona - political marketing - as a reason to discredit the only guy with a reasonable plan to revert kirchnerism. He’s already switched to statesman mode, as you can see from his post-election interviews, but I guess some people who want to be taken seriously keep demeaning the guy who has a shot at fixing their country. Good luck with that…
Argentina is a resource rich country, once one of the wealthiest countries in the world. The establishment oligarchs have driven into the ground over the last 50 years. Milles by dollarizing the economy will break the country free from the dictatorial central bank which acts in favor of the wealthy plutocrats. Not so much Trump- like as a necessary change in direction for a misdirected potentially wealthy country.
Pple are going idiotic all over the world. What kind of world are we living in? Disastrous.
That’s what we love about you your unbiased headlines 😂😂
Yeah. Dave really drank the Big Media Kool-Aid from Argentina - which is like having almost nothing but Fox News, with RW regimes (mainly the last dictatorship, and then Macri) having tried to shut down the few left-wing choices left.
Yeah, definitely not biased at all... 👀
Dammed if you do dammed don't, picking from rubbish politicians
We are crying for you Argentina
Keep crying that capitalism is fixing the country destroyed by a century of socialism.
It's Going to be interesting to say the least. Saludos desde Ushuaia Argentina.
I'm a fan of yours. I'm Argentinean , live in the US , consider myself a progressive and Trump a wannabe Mussolini , yet i support Milei . Things are complex.... and contextual; so contextual that neither me nor you David are Peronists (the party of Evita) and given that we are progressives here , people would guess we should be. Latinamerica has 3 dollarized countries already , in Argentina could be a blessing in disguise....well see
I hate to break it to you, but leftists like pakman do not consider the complexities of other nations' politics.
They have been driven blind by Trump. I support Milei too (the message he sends is based).
AFUERA!
te equivocas, un peronista ideológicamente es trampista, por el principio justicialista y patriota, miles esta mas alineado con el progresismo liberal y el conservadurismo económico, en si es un libertario, termino poco familiar para la política mundial, miles es superior a Trump, a Biden o a cualquier político porque su principio moral es individualista
Like an infection around the world.
Sounds like a case of "out of the frying pan, into the fire". (Maybe the other way 'round in the short term.) I feel horrible for sane Argentinians. Each and every people deserves better than this.
The funny thing is that insane people think they're sane...
Watching someone vote a cognitively impaired stroke victim in to the white house and expecting normalcy pretty much nails the definition of insanity.
Maybe you should be afraid of the other candidate, Massa, who is said to be related to drug dealers. I don´t like peronism, so I voted for Milei, not because he had convinced me, I just didn´t want Massa to win. i was told if I didn´t vote for Milei I would give Massa the chance to win. In reality, I didn´t like any of the candidates at all. As an Argentine, I like Trump, bc Biden supported Thatcher during the Malvinas war when he was a senator. Greetings from Entre Ríos province, Argentina.
This guy is not crazy, he is a genius, he created a striking and charismatic character because he knew that this was how he managed to attract attention (since he practically had no funds for a presidential campaign) now that he is president-elect, you listen to him speak and he is a guy much more sober than the rest of the candidates...I hope he does well for the good of that great country, with enormous potential, called Argentina!
The man is hearing voices.
That's not even remotely true.
No funds? Mate...
"Argentinian billionaire Eduardo Eurnekian plugged the wild-haired economist relentlessly on his A24 media network" to quote todays Guardian.
The man got political ads for free.
He also has encouraged several of his staff to join Milei's campaign.
I've just read Uki Goñi's article in the Guardian...
I think I am going to puke.
Poor Argentina.
I lived in Argentina in 2001 for a time with my family as a kid . When I got there , 1 dollar was equal to 1 peso . I’m a matter of months , $1 was equal to 8 pesos . Fast forward 22 years , Argentina has one of the worst inflation in the world. I think only third or forth to Lebanon , Venezuelan and Yemen. Other countries in Latin America dolarized their economies . In my country El Salvador, we adopted the US dollar in 2001, it has kept our economy stable . Ofcourse the situation is different in Argentina . El Salvador had low inflation during that process but if it worked in Equador , Panama and El Salvador , it could work there too 🤷🏻♂️
@lifewithrob512Anyone who doesn't support the large bureaucracy of government is a "right winger Trumpian."
"Trump-like"
Bro... nobody on this green earth comes close to that, no
Make Argentina great again!😂 I hope he does a good job running things in Argentina as Trump did in the United States. Trump 2024!😅
The left is afraid of people like Milei and Trump because they put an end to the mass theft of the very few privileged elite.
You're so incredibly benighted.
This doesn’t surprise me, for a country that gave the Nazis a home to hide from accountability
Bravo Argentina
To be honest, I’ve never viewed Argentina as a democracy. I have friends that came from Argentina in the 60s with their parents and the parents had horror stories to tell. But they were the nicest people and said everyone should at least visit Argentina.
Yes, I agree. Argentina has charming cities and architecture, even though wealth inequality is also visible. The Patagonia area has some of the best mountain scenery. Unexpectedly has exceptional pizza, as well. Everyone should visit whenever Argentina has the sense to remove their Boris Johnson/Bozo the Clown, again. Until then, cry for Argentina.
Yeah like lynching wasn't normal in America 🤡🤡
@@tom-kz9pb my friends described it as beautiful.
@@Gmthekiller tragically, the USA has an history of that.
@@tom-kz9pbLefty Tossers! - Boris Johnson
Also I can't wait for Argentina begins economic recovery under this guy... I love reading the new state approved talking points the left concocts😂
Trump's brain cells: OUT
Javier's dancing skills definitely: OUT
"The day one Orange-Haired extremist came to power in a democracy, all the extremists in the world started getting ideas."
- Abhijit Naskar, Vande Vasudhaivam: 100 Sonnets for Our Planetary Pueblo
Well, he did say he doesn’t like Russia or Hamas and he supports Ukraine.
Argentina made the right choice
I'm surprised the powers that be in that country haven't decided to invade The Falkland Islands again tbh
So you don't like the idea of trying to save the country by cutting out useless programs. But at the same time you say they have a spending problem. 😅😅😅
Useless programs like helping the poor, saving the environment. Not all pbs are economic.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Who are you saving the environment from? The poor...lol
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 You people make me laugh. Stop being a dog chasing his tail.
@@rogerfontenot2610 And the rich, dimwit.
@@rogerfontenot2610 Kedves. Ilyen hulye kommenteket kiemelni mert nekem valaszolnak. Nem kellene errol leallni?
Bueno, Argentina ahora si se va a la mrd.
We were the watermark of democracy and power to the people for many 3rd world countries. Now that Trump has legitimized his own contempt for our Constitution and Institutions others are sure to follow.
You people think too much of yourselves.
Cringe
Its like he's purposely trying to emulate Ozzy Osbourne.
'Both options are terrible'. Do you mean like both options this country has for president?
@@EmperorDarthSidious66what reproductive rights?
@@EmperorDarthSidious66 answer the question. What reproductive rights?
@@EmperorDarthSidious66 the libtards have yet again proven themselves to be immature cowards 😂
Millei is actually the lesser of the wo evils, Argentinans prefer the USD sicne the peso sucks bad, due to very high inflation and very high interest rates. I think Milei's policies may only be the one to give a massive boost to Argentina to get out of the mess its in, decades of peronista misrule has led to this .
He is not the lesser, he is the greater evil. Why are ppl getting crazy.
@@Odisseu_AOE we shall see, but the peronistas are the greater evil, they are teh reason why Argentina is the Philippines of Latin America
I lived in Argentina from 1988 (Alfonsín was President) to 1990 (Menem was President when I left). I could never understand the politics, but I felt (and feel still now) so sorry that such a wonderful country with such wonderful people and culture has so much economic hardship.
Give the guy a chance.
Wanting to remove the ministerial portfolios (or whatever you call them) does not mean that he doesn't care about those things necessarily, more that he thinks that those things are not promoting those things well.
Omg, my mom was born in Argentina. I was thinking of trying to get dual citizenship , not anymore 😢
At least we have the best empanadas.
They'll probably put in policies that will enable them to prosper - if you're left, they prefer for you to stay away 😅😅😅
Argentinian citizenship is notoriously bad to begin with …
@@july9566 You have right to free healthcare. Or, you have it until this guy takes power.
@@emaarredondo-librarianWe also don't have supplies in the hospitals and it takes up to a year to give you an emergency appointment, but hey, health is "free"
Gringos don't know what they're talking about and they still have their opinion, nothing new...
Maybe Americans should get more involved and informed about politics rather than treating it like a form of entertainment? Like read books, in depth articlea, stop watching 24 hour cable newstainment.
Actually, Javier Milei is not a far right winger. He is a self described libertarian (which means being fiscally conservative and socially liberal).
For those of you who do not know what Libertarianism entails (not to be confused with Liberalism), here's a quick crash course:
1) Let everyone do whatever they want, as long as they don't infringe on other's liberty, property and fruits of their labor (i.e. taxation... which leads to the second point)
2) Low to no taxation. Government should be funded through altruism and philanthropy (So if you want the government to hand out subsidies and tax breaks, shoot rockets up into the sky, provide other countries with military/humanitarian aid, by all means: write them a check. Just don't force others to do so who don't agree with that manner of tax-payer's money spending). This would also give the government an incentive to be less corrupt, work efficiently and to listen to their constituencies (because they actually need to perform and keep the customers (a.k.a. we the people) happy)
3) The only centralized top-down areas of government should be National Security and Administration of Justice
4) The idea is to encourage individual responsibility and freedom
5) Libertarians believe in innovative free-market solutions (even for roads, infrastructure, health, retirement etc.) to drive up competition, thereby driving down the cost and making it high-quality. Just think of the iPhone, Flatscreen TVs, Health procedures (which ironically (I wonder why?) aren't covered by insurance such as Lasek, rhinoplasties, and other free market conveniences/products and services we are able to afford much more easily than the rest of the world.
6) Libertarians support even the farthest left-wing ideas including drug decriminalization, rehabilitative justice, LGTQB-rights, gay marriage, abortion and euthanasia... as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's rights, it should be 100% legal.
So in summary, libertarians want gun-towing gays to be able to defend their property while smoking pot and paying low taxes... seriously! This should be possible in a free society.
People can say what they want about libertarians, but whatever neo-lib/neo-con social democracy solutions we've had in the past couple hundreds of years... haven't worked... perhaps freedom (and a "live-and-let-live" attitude) is the answer. It also eliminates the ridiculous division, hatred and polarization we have in our country.
Just food for thought💯
I'm not sure why you're toting this generalized, American-centric notion of libertarianism considering it does not apply to Milei. He's a self-described minarchist and anarcho-capitalist. He strongly opposes some of the things you mention, like abortion and euthenasia, and limiting the immigration of people he'd deem undesirable. He rose to power using the rightwing populist tactics of Trump and Bolsonaro. I know he wants to dollarize and abolish the central bank, but in true libertarian fashion, I don't think he really has well thought out plans and policy.
Yeah sure. but this guy is a lunatic. Whatever his political views.
Congratulations Argentina! We need a man like this in America ❤
Their inflation is so bad in the grocery stores that the currency doesn't fit in the cash registers....
Thanks, David. I had seen Trump supporters gloating, and I didn't know how bad the alternative was.
Good luck to Argentina.
MAGAs who have never left the US. They can't find Argentina on a map
Meleil is going to turn Argentina around. You are wrong
Copious copium from the left.
God willing! Argentina should be one of the richest countries in the world.
David Pakman, it's intellectually impossible to be "Far Right" and a Libertarian.
Well no. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role - and especially the power - of the government is minimized. Libertarianism / Minarchism and all the ideologies based on Classical Liberalism are on the far-right side.
Poopman thinks everything is bad except than soy.cialism.
Does Argentina have it's own Bernie/Lula or even anything resembling a left wing political voting bloc?
They will find out when their economy will go into the ditch.
It's already there 😂👍
Is already there, but he might hammer the last nail on the coffin.
It was already there, and now he fixed it.
I have the feeling this is far worse than Trumpism.
David, sir, given your Argentine origins, might you be able to offer us a bit of a history lesson / insightful thoughts about the Peron era ?
Over the last decade or so I’ve developed an interest in this topic, but have found very little in terms of documentary films, discussions, or other easily accessible sources of information. While the film adaptation of Evita (which I love, btw), does provide a tantalizing glimpse of the era, the few documentaries I’ve seen listed on major streaming platforms all seem to be “unavailable at this time”.
It seems like there could be some interesting parallels to explore between then and now. Having been a dramatic and impactful episode in history, the void in coverage is frustrating.
PS: As a bonus, certain of Andrew L. Weber’s lyrics from Evita definitely offer golden opportunities for Trumpian parody. I highly recommend listening with this in mind 🤓
Solo una precaución, tenés que tener cuidado que en el proceso de aprender más sobre Perón, termines "adoctrinado", obvio dependiendo de los documentales que veas y de los pensamientos de las personas que realizan dichos documentales y/o reportajes, Suerte en tu búsqueda.
Good idea
Perón was *a very authoritarian* social democrat: very pro-labor, women, minorities, religious freedom (first to include Jews in government) - and very much against corporate monopolies, absentee landowners, and holy rollers.
He also slashed the (then-bloated) defense budget, and plowed the savings into social programs and public works - while paying off most foreign debt (which he warned would be used to plunder the country, if allowed to grow - as in fact later happened).
But as his censorship, persecutions and harassment show, he was a real authoritarian - like almost all Argentine presidents before him (and many of those after him, most recently Macri). Nothing like the 1976 dictatorship Milei admires - but still.
He also turned the country's tax-cheat elites against their own country - which they've since feel "was lost to the black-heads" (i.e. Perón's often mestizo supporters).
If you combined *Bernie Sanders' policies, with Trump's tactics and crooked ethics* - you'd probably get someone like Perón (except he was the one coup'ed by right-wingers).
Latin politics are full of layers and drama - especially Argentina's.
@@tenorly Peron sounds pretty good at first. Too bad he went back. If Milei admires the junta of the 70's Argentina is in big trouble. Dirty War, infamous campaign waged from 1976 to 1983 by Argentina's military dictatorship against suspected left-wing political opponents. It is estimated that between 10,000 and 30,000 citizens were killed; many of them were “disappeared”-seized by the authorities and never heard from again. I fervently Argentines don't allow that. Then corruption, bad as it is, is better.
@@tenorly that’s great insight. Thank you for your reply ✌️
I was born in Brazil. Not sure why that is relevant, but yet here I am
Argentina is next door to Brazil, so you may know more about the region than most people in the English-speaking world.
@@danieldickson8591 i don't. we moved to Bismarck, ND when I was 5 years old. BUT Portuguese was my fist language lol
David. Be careful when travelling back to Argentina now… You are a critic of the state and I fear just like critics of any other dictators, you’re in a dangerous place don’t quit what you’re doing, we all appreciate it but just be careful.
The type of 'state' that censors and tortures people are typically hard leaning left governments. By the time David gets to Argentina, the socialist parasites will be out of power and David will be able to enjoy his freedom of speech as he should.
A dictator is any duly elected rulers you don't like.
You don't know any dictator and you only call that name the democratically elected one you don't like.
Don't worry, gringo, here's what each candidate really proposed:
- Milei made it clear that he would privatize the public media at the service of the state.
- Massa literally proposed controlling the media such as the internet.
@@shlockofgod Oh for Chrissake! The ignoramuses of this world who vote for these creeps are the main problem.
You're not kidding.
Milei is an *avowed* authoritarian, who has threatened to "use troops" protesters (which he knows his shock policies will trigger), and even named that lush *Patricia Bullrich* to the Security Ministry.
Last time she held the post (2015-19), she was embroiled in numerous *warrantless surveillance* scandals - including *Super Mario Bros* (1,500+ public figures spied on -including allies), *d'Alessiogate* (millions extorted from businessmen, who were smeared if they didn't pay), *Submarinegate* (espionage on the families of the 44 killed in the 2017 ARA San Juan tragedy - believed to be a cover-up of a UK attack), and *GestaPRO* (a ring set up to frame troublesome labor leaders).
When asked why her phone number showed up on extortionist Marcelo d'Alessio's phone, Bullrich scoffed that "her grandson must've picked up the phone" (!).
So you can imagine what might happen. And the right regularly uses - and abuses - facial recognition tech in Buenos Aires (whose local gov't they control).