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- Cases of odometer tampering are on the rise as a record number of Americans seek used cars. NBC News’ Marissa Parra has the details on how people can protect themselves when they’re in the market for a used car.
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#Cars #Scam #Fraud
Not only odometer roll back but there are used cars that have been in flood waters. If you notice unusual smell coming from under the seats or rust underneath, then the car was partially submerged.
I once stuck my head in a car that smelt horrid. Got labeled the "fish car". Wouldn't go any further. No clue what it was and I probably don't want to know.
Or rust on the undercarriage caused by salt on roadway
Yup if you're down south like in Florida make sure you check for roaches and bugs too
Car dealers may get a bad rap, but the fact is that it's safer to buy from an established business rather than a private party.
At least she didnt end up in a Buick as her first car i hope
Be careful! I traded my civic to carmax in 2021. It had 123,000 miles. Checked it’s carfax 6 months later, and it showed 62,000 miles. They did it. And I know it.
Interesting reply Joshua. I'm wondering if it was CarFax rolled it or it was rolled before they received the information. Not very trusting here. Tom
The real question is why you traded a car to Car max 😂
CarMax sends cars to auction they cant sell on lots, I doubt it was them
@waterloo123100 They offer more money than what the cars worth.
@@waterloo123100 for money
LOL Carmax guy saying buy from a dealer you trust.
Yes becos there are dealers that are just not reputable.
He didnt say ALL dealers are trustworthy.
And if you buy from private seller or craigslist you might buy a lemon from another seller who might have had regrets.
But if you only need a cheap car. Make sure to get a car fax and check the pink sheet of the car or clean titles instead of auctioned cars (stolen or repo) or salvaged or replaced titles.
It's funny cuz carmax is in a big pot hole right now with selling their vehicles to consumers who never got the vehicle or couldn't get it underneath their name how ironic.😅
Yes, please buy from the Stealership
My ex was hired by Carmax in the administrative department he warned me about them and he was not the most trustworthy person himself.
@@rosesmith3971 I thought that was Carvana. Is Carmax having title issues too?
Buy from a dealership you trust???? Is there any?
There is NOTHING you can do! I bought a used SUV years ago from a large chain dealership that lowered the mileage. They also told me it was a single owner but it was really a construction company vehicle. I called the Ralph Nader institute in DC, they said they could not help but suggested i call my attorney general, that office said they were sorry but there was nothing they could do. I called the odometer fraud task forces in Tallahassee they said the could not investigate for just one person. My bank where i financed it was interested but never did anything. My attorney said to pursue it on my own because there was no money in it for him. Lots of agency’s that have no interest or real power to do anything!
The people that you spoke with never wanted to help to begin with, it's the old "not our problem go screw yourself, trick they don't gain anything from helping people even the attorneys since there won't be any money in to it, you can thank capitalism for that, just be careful next time and do your homework because when you're dealing with money people will tell you everything under the sun to get your money.
@Unintentional Failure cool story but dealerships have insurances.
@MAJESTIC Then going to prison.
Don’t BUY used!
Yeah I reported a dealer to the MD states attorneys office. They do NOTHING, COMPLETELY POINTLESS.
Crimes like this are rampant because the penalty isn't high enough. If people faced 30 yewrs in prison, they wouldn't do it.
Quit buying cars you don't need.
I ran the carfax on 10 used cars when I was looking for a used car and all 10 of them had the odometer rolled back
Just look up the cars vin number and check the history. You can see if the odometer has been rolled back or not.
Not necessarily
Oh wow that’s it?! Thanks!
That is ONE way to do it. Make sure to always have a used car inspected by a trusted mechanic to see the car's full story.
Check the carfax
@@Abdu101 ok explain
First indication of something wrong was $6500.00 for a Lexus suv with under 100000 miles is rediculously underpriced. No matter how old it is. $6500.00 with 210000 miles is about market accurate.
Coming from a car salesman, “Go to a dealership you trust” 😂😂😂
😅
Good Joke there 🤣🤣 they really think people trust dealerships
I think he realized what he said after he said it
"Trust" is the reason consumers avoid going to stealerships-- I mean, dealerships in the first place. 😂
Facts lol
This is the oldest scam in the used car business. I thought most modern cars would not be as easy to pull this off.
Righttt
It is in fact near impossible. Mileage is also recorded in the main ECU.. So changing odometer won't hide miles..
It's actually easier with the new electronic odometers to alter them.
@@Acura1NSX You have to reprogram EEPROM.. How many people know how to do that. Plus how have to breach the software security ...
Plenty of car repair & unscrupulous criminals know how to do it surprisingly, by the way, I shot this piece for NBC News.
You know what’s also a scam? Used car prices right now.
i bought my 1987 classic cadillac, and it has only 27,000 miles!! the Seller Mr. Bob was a nice honest man,
(1 way you could know people arw honest is they are nice and always smile)
Mr. Bob always smiled folks.
I once bought a car that I discovered was rolled back from 200k miles to 100k miles... 4 years after I bought the car.
I then sold it on to the next sucker who never bothered to check the Carfax, just like me back then.
I have 482,000 on my odometer. Hope it's not rolled back.
I can tell by the way a car drive if it has 210,000 miles. You can look at the brake and gas pedal and see wear. You can look at the steering wheel and the driver seat. Take the oil cap off and look at it.
Sometimes, even if you ask the seller for the vin to see if the “low mileage” car actually has low miles, they will not provide the vin number and that is one red flag that the odometer might be rolled back and a sign that they are hiding the fact that they rolled back the odometer and made it look good to sell it for way more than what it was actually worth
her first mistake was buying a Buick
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Deadass 😂
There are millions of old Buick LeSabres and Centurys on the road, probably the most common old car I see. I wonder when quality at Buick started going downhill.
THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF NEW CARS THEY ARE OVERPRICED FOR MOST AMERICANS!!!
There is no dealer you can trust!! Buy from a neighbor and friends, you know.
Unfortunately my mom fell victim to this last year buying a car from Facebook Marketplace which a family member was with her to check it out and that family member said it ran good. When I finally got a chance to look at the car and do a carfax, the last report was a few years ago with 255k mileage last reported. The odometer was rolled back to 164k. This was on a 2005 Honda Oddyssey. I wish was there at that time.
I mean it’s fb though
And wth are you doing buying a car with 164k on the odometer? I seriously don't get it, but something newer. Cars around the 20k to 30k miles marker are the best deals. They have taken their biggest percentage of depreciation, but still have plenty of life in them, and you know what your getting into. Older cars, especially over 100k are an absolute gamble, I don't care what car brand it is. Bushing wear out, ball joints wear out, engines can leak oil, seals can fail, so many things to go wrong that are not cheap to repair.
@@heyaisdabomb it is not I that bought the car with the rolled back odometer. My mom with the help of a family member who really had no idea what to look for in a used car bought it without doing any homework. Her main purpose in buying a higher mileage van is to use it around her town for small bakery deliveries. It does not take rocket science to realize parts do wear out in cars as well as vital engine parts. This video is about sellers of any vehicles rolling back odometer just to sell a car.
@@m-cw7er LOL RIGHT..
the seller was probably black or Hispanic.. that should have been the first red flag lmaooooooo
Dealerships are more of a scam than ever. Here's how you protect yourself:
1. When you look at a car, look at the wear and tear of the steering wheel, driver seat, and most importantly, the foot pedals. If it's higher mileage, those will be worn in more.
2. This can technically go with 1, but overall wear too can tell you a lot. Pop the hood and look for written dates (oil change stickers, inspections, etc.). The oil filter is another common place for notes too (I write down miles on mine). Get a carfax if possible too. Check for rust too. Look at the frame and the supports of the seats. Just because a car has low mileage doesn't mean it's healthy. Rust on the frame (not just superficial but actual decay) is dangerous. Rust on the seat supports could mean a few things - If it's just the driver seat, it's probably just from a spilt drink or water from their shoes. But this still shows age. If it's on both seats, the car either had a lot of operation or worse, was in a flood.
3. Some mechanics do it for free, but most an hour of labor. Get a pre purchase vehicle inspection. Whether the car is brand new off of the lot or it's your first car. Having a second or third set of eyes is critical. True mechanics have amazing scan tools to check all sorts of live data and possible codes aka check engine lights. If a dealer or private seller does not want you to get it inspected, DO NOT PURCHASE THE CAR! It's a red flag and they honestly should've had it inspected before selling it. If the dealer doesn't let you drive off of the lot with it to check it out and get it inspected by your mechanic, they're hiding something. If a private seller does not let you get it inspected, it's not worth the hassle. If they're iffy about it, invite them to come along for the ride. If they still refuse, do not buy it!
4. Common sense. If something is too good to be true, it probably is.
Just buy a higher mileage car that has good service history.
Its unfortunate that newer electronic odometers are actually easier to tamper with than the old mechanical ones (which would show obvious signs of rollback if you knew where to look.)
The digital ones show no signs of tampering.
Frequently gas pedals, etc, are replaced ... even with just less used ones. But rarely can they hide worn door jamb light switches, and other things that will show wear but are too hard to "fix" all of them.
Most dealers will rip you off other ways bottom line don't trust anyone and do your homework before you buy a used car.
Even if the SUVs and trucks have high miles, they still sell for above $5k in good condition regardless of the miles and that’s in the state of California
Get an obd2 scanner, dealers are known to add tons of fees you don't need
The guy at the end has no idea what he’s talking about. Never trust the dealers. Just bring a mechanic you already use or someone that’s recommended to check any vehicles before you buy. Even from a dealer
I always let people road test, sometimes even by theirselves, if I have enough reason to believe they're serious. If I think an upper motor mount is on its way out, I'll tell you all about it and where/how much the parts cost. As well as an idea of how difficult it would be to do on their own. People do like shiny things, but so far no one has ever complained about a car I sold them. I'm talking old stuff though, 90s and early 2000s cars nothing fancy by any stretch of the imagination lol. For instance the last two cars I sold was both back in 2020 or 21 sometime. 91 Geo Storm sold for 1500. 2003 Acura TL type s 2500 iirc. I mean these were decent daily drivers if that's what you were looking for, not perfect cosmetically but mechanically solid the both of them. Every little thing that caught my eye I would disclose to anyone interested on the ad and in person with the cars. Myself I don't like unwanted surprises (clanking suspension, wobbly brakes, blown bulbs and fuses) and as a machinist I just can't let that stuff go unchecked. Not telling someone about old windshield wipers or a funky passenger side power window would be like me signing off a part to be shipped when I know it's not right. But yeah, anything that made the car unsafe I wouldn't consider putting on the market until it was fixed. The Geo needed a pair of new struts and a better set of tires. The Acura had some sort of ignition quirk where the key had to be jammed and turned in to crank. I know I fixed that but tbh I can't recall the details right now. Anyways, that said, at those prices there's no future for me in car salesmanship. I can't afford to give good deals like that often unless I have good cars to sell. Market is full of sharks though, figure it best for me not to even jump into the fish tank you know
Got 240k miles on my Manual 05 Camry . Still running great
Dude at work 360k, and he isn't mechanicaly inclined
Check for other characteristics in the car like interior wear and tear. Check the brake and the accelerator to see how much wear they have. Also, what does the car smell like? You gotta use your 5 senses. Not just take their word
Smog check states mileage
Taste the car aswell
@@ericksanabria228 😂😂😂😂
Those Buick 3.6ls have timing chain and transmission problems. I wonder how much time she has left or if those components are original.
When did quality at Buick start going downhill? I see loads of old LeSabres and Centurys on the road.
When country becomes poorer, this and many other things happen. Survival is the game
It happened to me back in 2021, but I had no choice because there was a rental car shortage shortly after my car was totaled. Odometer and title read 140K, it was actually 237K and it wasn't even his title to begin with. The original title owner released ownership 8 months prior, so the tax office lady was looking at me funny. Never buying used cars off Craigslist ever again. I'm pretty good at weeding out mechanical issues and cosmetic damage coverups, but these scammers are taking it too far now.
Yeah, fake titles are nearly impossible to spot, unless you get the seller to do the transaction at the DMV.
In New York State the mileage is written on the inspection sticker each year and that info also goes to DMV. Obviously the mileage should be going up each year. Also, I've used CarFax which is helpful but I don't really trust them either.
Yea you pay $37.50 Ransom every year for that BS. Glad I don't live there anymore
@Jazzmen Rain Good question Jazzmen. I was wondering the same thing myself. On another point which doesn't make sense; I've recently bought used cars with inspection stickers that were still good for many months. Yet what do I get? Constant emails from DMV to get the car inspected. I've ignored them for years. Tom
I brought a used 2003 lincoln aviator with 180K miles. Yea it needed a transmission later on but we'll under 7K but runs amazing now
Those are fantastic!
I have a 2003 Acura MDX with 70 miles.
I bought it when I was 15…. 23 now.
240k miles now and drives like a dream!
Happened to me bought a 2015 Honda with 63K miles on it. Come to find out the car was stolen and actually had 283,422 miles reported from the last owner before it was stolen.
What ended up happening to the car? Did you hand it over to the old owner?
Just got scammed 2012 Toyota Sequoia for $16,500 August of 2024 odometer reads 115k miles. Indian guy has odometer rolled back and weeks later found out it has 287k miles. I'm currently disabled and disabled family and trying to get some help. I uploaded it too so it can be seen and shared.
My car the odometer, was broken when I bought it. 5 years later still runs like a champ 🤷♂️
@Unintentional FailureFord Crown Victoria
Because before computers in cars that made it simple to turn back odometers, it was much harder. The drive it in reverse story is bullshat, and old style odometers have tabs that break when tampered with.
Also, those caught turning them back would actually face prosecution. But nowadays it seems as if no one gets arrested for it.
As a teen i drove my used 1966 Mustang backwards a few blocks and my mileage was going down. I was just testing what I heard you can do and yes it worked
With modern cars, the mileage is stored independently in lots of pieces: the ECU and many other expensive components.
Usually if you swap out one part, the various computers will just agree on the highest number reported by any of them.
If you say that's easy for you to replace them all, okay, but it certainly won't be cheap.
@@j_taylor So how come they are saying that so many cars are sold with rolled back odometers?
@@Jose-sy1je I don't know. Maybe the dashboard has been modified to show the wrong number.
This news story also doesn't say how to verify the mileage, which I think is important. Does an OBDII reader report a different value than the dashboard?
@@j_taylorMaybe through Carfax? Bc most people will only turn the miles back once. I don't really know how it even works and buying a used car is always a risk anyway.
Im buying my lease in January. Enough of this B.S with dealers
A dealership that you trust............ Hmmmm
yea nun of them !
This happened to me last year (2022) with a 2002 Toyota Camry. Odometer read 137,XXX miles. I drove it for a few days until the check engine light popped up and that’s when I started having second thoughts about the car. I ran a carfax report and the vehicle had over 230k miles. I also learned that the person also cleared all the codes on the car computer. It had so many codes one of them being a bad catalytic converter. I ended up selling the car for $2.5k dollars less. Always run a carfax report and invest on a good OBD2 scanner.
How did you sell the car?
@@sayeed7255 I sold it as is, I informed the buyer about everything and he didn’t mind it.
same exact thing happened to me, plus i never got the title! but im suing his a##
@@shalabypharmd4137hey how are you planning on sueing, I also bought a car with 177k but today found out it has 310k from another friend
Just got scammed 2012 Toyota Sequoia for $16,500 August of 2024 odometer reads 115k miles. Indian guy has odometer rolled back and weeks later found out it has 287k miles. I'm currently disabled and disabled family and trying to get some help. I uploaded it too so it can be seen and shared.
Happened to me with a used car but went out within 20 miles and I had to dish repairs out because they wouldn’t take it back and I couldn’t get a refund. I paid $6000 not including fees, I’m walking to work as of now but saving for a new car and hopefully by the time I buy the markups will cool down like that are now
I would have sued them for every pennies
That sounds terrible. What kind of car is that and what is the issue?
@@morebrainmoregains3234 In California the law isn’t working with the consumer mostly the business and I did not move here on my on volition
@@morebrainmoregains3234emon laws largely apply to new cars, nit so much used ones.
@@morebrainmoregains3234 you can’t sue without a lawyer/money
They are trying to fear monger the public into buying newer cars. Nevertheless, i'm proud of the fact that people are buying older cars because 1. They are simpler and more reliable, and 2. You save money.
people will do anything to scam a fellow human being for money.
Tell the truth, it's not that many dealerships that will actually tell you the truth about a vehicle. All they want to do, is make the car look good & sell it. This is another reason, a person need to learn about certain things, especially vehicles, cause you putting yourself & others in danger.
I am saving money on my own to buy a used car this spring or summer of 2023. I am going to budget on my own for my first car at 42. I drive well.
She wanted to buy her 16-year-old daughter a 2010 Buick Enclave for her first car? Does her daughter have three children and gave up on life already?
Doing engine scan, make sure mileage listed on the computer, matches the dash, this article doesn't seem to list that you could physically change the dash board that would lift lower mileage
DMV allows for a 300 mile difference in this. But yes this is one of the best ways to check but mileage on the dash and computer can be changed with the right tool. Remember dash and ecu goes bad and the new one’s needs to be reprogrammed with the milage.
They fail to mention here that cars10 years or older is exempt from mileage disclosure. Buyer beware
And in some states 10-25 years old,exempt from an emissions test,so they can remove the check engine light.
If you know anyone at a dealership of that brand call them with the Vin! They can see almost anything reported on that vehicle!!
I bought a used car odyssey from Dealership EchoPark in Plano Texas for $21000. After a month car started having coolant leak and turned out to be a crack in the engine. With no option I had to sell it for $2000 😢. Dealerships are also not reliable
These used car prices are too darn high. Stop paying these high prices! Consumer protection is a joke nowadays. This is partially why we see businesses engaging in underhanded schemes for profit. They 😂 in customers faces b/c they have NOTHING to fear for engaging in fraud
The only way to know if the car had been rolled back is using a computer to read the time-stamped of the operational hours vs the miles
This is old news, people have been doing this
At 150,000 miles.. all bearings and belts go out.. minor repairs
Oh man what time , either the dealer rips you off or a private fraudster rips you off.
This is a total load of BS. The odometer on most cars for the last 15 years are digital. To top it off either the ECM, TCM, BCM, or the instrument cluster itself keeps the odometer mileage stored in memory.
The ones that are programmable require a near $5,000 set up and you have to buy a license from the manufacturer to buy the system. Dealership won't mess with this because the ends don't justify the means. It would cost too much to get caught once. This show is a lie and a sham. Why they are pushing this is beyond me. Even when the odometers were analog you had to have special tools to open the instrument cluster to change the mileage. There were specialty shops that would open them up to fix them when they went bad. The cost was comparable to buying a good used one. With cars for the last 15 years if you change the instrument cluster the ECM, TCM, or BCM would automatically tell the cluster the mileage.
I am so sick of this dishonest reporting.
Doesn't the DMV suppose to have a record of it and warn you about it
And that's why it's critical to take the car to a trusted mechanic for an inspection before closing the sale. Many good mechanics have a fancy scan tool to see what's REALLY going on with the car you're planning on buying.
thats such a POS thing to do
Buying a car on Facebook always sounded insane to me.
Thats why I bought brand new nissan sentea when I moved to US. its okay to drive smaller car with warranty. lot of my friends bought used luxury cars and eventually made frequent stops st mechanic shop.
Let me guess BMW,Mercedes,Audi? My used lexus has been running with no issues for 3 years now.
Depends, I bought a 2017 q60 a year ago. I researched heavily and found the best deal which was 33000 miles at 27k. No issues, just a faulty washer fluid sensor. Then compare that to a 2022-2023 Nissan Altima. Those things cost 30k which is insane, and the build quality and use ability, comfort, and safety is nowhere near my q60. My may
not have safety sensors, but it definitely is safer because of the better handling. I feel much more confident in driving a q60 then an Altima. It’s a major difference.
@@classix848 Lexus are basically tanks with velvet seats and air conditioning
Good for you… these ppl aren’t buying luxury cars like your friends. They are getting scammed with regular used cars
If it's private sale. Please go get a prepurchase inspection.
Roll back? Something I never needed to do.
Its been a scam for years and it still goes on.
Do the math 12,000 miles a year average multiplication by years give you the estimate mileage of used car Toyota reliability
Anyone else think of Danny DeVito in Matilda?
Did you not watch the video?
Watch the video
When a clip of him popped up in this video, I literally thought of him at that very moment.
Jordan Muller you just commented that cuz you saw the movie clips in the video
Whenever I hear odometer fraud, I immediately think of Scotty Kilmer.
My little advice, hire a professional mechanic to help you to inspect your dream car. I know it cost few hundreds dollar per hour, but it's worth it than lost 65K dollars to total junk
Is this still thing???
Make’s me want to buy a brand new car. I would hate to pay for a used one.
Facts
“Buy from a dealership you trust”. NO SUCH PLACE ON EARTH.
"Shop at a dealership you trust."
Ok, so none of them then?
What's with the words at 1:29. The audio was fine, did you guys run out of stock footage of odometers?
2:00 "Buy from a Dealership you trust" now there is a statement...no dice.
Use any service that can track the cars history- it will list odometer readings on testing/registration. It's a given that you have to be more diligent when buying used.
That's only good if the owners periodically took their car in for routine maintenance.
@@taurussho86 Many states have smog test requirements that force testing. A used car with no reported maintenance history is a red flag in itself and should be avoided.
Just realized IM now a victim of this… lesson learned 😢 never buy cars off Craigslist again.
It is always the struggling and poor families who these criminals rip off.
This world is nuts
Run a VIN check through multiple services to check for any adverse history and mileage record. Two red flags that could indicate tampering. One, a spotty and inconsistent trend in reported mileage year by year. Two, the indicated mileage deviates significantly from the expected mileage for that vehicle make, model and year. And second pay a professional to do a thorough inspection of the vehicle. The inspector ideally should not know or have any affiliation with the seller. You don't want a conflict of interest.
Alot of stuff we see in movies are real life far from crazy smh
Man I’ve been saying that since I was a kid!! robot, aliens, artificial intelligence this world is going downhill the movies make it look cool
This is an issue that has been going on since people could buy used cars. They must have done it to the right one.
I was gifted a 2001 Honda Accord. Yes it's a beater but runs excellent! I keep it super clean and very grateful for it.
Same thing happens with expired food at grocery stores, they doctor up the food to look fresh
My local supermarket does that with meat. They dunk the meats in fresh blood to make the meat look fresh
I bought a truck with miles rolled back. I did a car fax while I was looking at car and I told them the miles are rolled back. Most of the time the car will get service at a service center that reports the miles to carfax or auto check. So I offered them 5k less then the price they wanted and they took it. The odometer reading didn't matter to me.
Same as dating apps.
But you can’t kick out and ghost a car the next morning.
By any chance was this bought outside of a dealership? That could have been the first red flag.
No description of the suspect? Interesting
I buy and sell plenty of cars privately, and i never go and inspect a used car without running carfax or autocheck which are the most important factors to avoid getting scammed by an odometer fraud.
Never buy a used car without getting it inspected by a trustworthy mechanic.
No wonder why I saw a 1984 Peterbilt 359 with only 30,000 miles and yes it’s an original Detroit Diesel 8V92 not brand new Cummins ISX
I go to junk yard and when u see a car with low miles on odometer it sells fast. Car lots change out odoneters
Take their business, sell it for a loss, and throw them in jail.... EVERY TIME....and it will stop
Just replace the cluster with a lower mileage one from a junkyard and that’s all it takes. Most of the time the mileage from the junkyard car will stay with the cluster. You can tell from carfax, state inspections, DMV to get previous recorded mileage. Also a really good scan tool will read the mileage off the PCM/ECM/TCM.
It's rare any of my vehicles have under 200k miles so I can usually trust the mileage especially for the prices I pay.
The question is what the heck happened to the person or businesses who rolled back the odometer?????????? Are they arrested and jailed? If they aren't severely punished for rolling back odometers then they just keep doing it!
I had this happened to me. Bought a car with 107k but really had 190k+…reported it to the state attorney generals office and they send you forms so you can prove they scammed you…very hard to do when you purchase the car cash from Facebook! So at the end of the day nothing at all was done smh.
@@k_escobar917 Sorry to hear it happened to you. That is why the scammer continues to scam people because nothing much ever happen to them even if they are caught.
@@k_escobar917 same thing happened to me. The car said 112000 and the car really had 155000
@@NewEraChop3 so many scammers out there!!! I learned from this mistake at least. Next car I get I’ll probably go to a used car dealer and ask for carfax before making a decision
Nothing is happening to these ppl
CARFAX! Why wouldn't you use it? It's cheap!
What is legal way to address this, if one becomes a victim?
Service records will verify that my 2019 Outback only has 5,600 miles.
You can always take it to a common oil change spot to check the vehicle as well. For example valvoline. It's crazy how often this is.
This is normal at the dealership but you ain’t hear it from me
Literally every car on Facebook
If used car is 27k wouldn't you be better off buying new?
exactly what I did because I was able to get a lower interest rate too!
Mee too back in 2020 when the dealers just want to get rid of cars. Plus I don't have to worry about milage fraud.