When I started working for my neighbor years ago, he had 3 of these - 2 red ones and 1 white one. The last one left the farm around 8 years ago. Plenty of power !
Different by design didn't fly after Tenneco merged Case, IH and Steiger in 1985 and 86. They launched the Magnum series in 87, which was largely IH engineering that would have replaced their 88 series, so long gone was the CASE 504 engine and Power Shift trans.... Then in 88 they launched the Steiger articulated 4WD's, so long gone was this rigid frame axle steer 4WD engineering... At this point there was nothing left of any original CASE engineering in the new tractor lines, only the name...
Thanks for the video. Had a 2870 Case, always was a good starting and good pulling tractor, only drawback was 15 mph travel speed. Would have loved to have one of these rare monsters.
Gotta love the insistence that it was a Case engine, not a down-tuned Scania truck engine. Actually, it'd be fun to see how one would go with the modern, 16.4L DC16 with 770hp and 2729lb-ft available.
there is virtually no difference between the engine in a tractor and a truck - they're just diesel engines. It's all about the transmission - if you build the transmission to properly match the engine and the machine it goes in you can get the same performance, but possibly not the same fuel economy.
Thanks for posting this. Any idea where to find the great Case lawn tractor TV commercials from the early 80's? "NO Belts, NO Chains, Get Tough, get a Case!
Is this guys name John Dorimas from the radio show...The Passing Parade. I used to hear him on the radio here in Australia when I was a kid in the 70,s.
I do love there old case promos . Time has not been kind to these tractors. Junk when they rolled off the assembly line. The only thing that makes them valuable is how few are still running .
@@robertmoulton2656my cousin runs one of these engines in his tractorpuller. Bought a 4wd with shot transmission cheap, put it in a 2wd for cheap horsepower.
@@admiraltroll5255 your not old enough to remember case and the power shift from the 70's . If you put it on a baler you where usually repairing the transmission every couple years
@@robertmoulton2656 Ran a 1570 to till and pull wagons with on my uncle's farm. no bailing though. Not as nice as full power shift but ya gotta use what ya got. Use 3-1(good ground) to take off. shift to 4-1 once i got the train a moving. Can't lolly gant and don't shift in 2 or 3(auto goes to 1) personaly have a 530 in the demonic Case-o-matic :) PO'ed a guy at my day job when i told him the reason he hated is families 800 was because he didn't know how to run it Long and short im a young idiot but i love me some old junk:)
Case "Different by Design" Allis Chalmers " Better by Design". I always find it funny how companies stretch the truth with marketing, and don't know their competition. John Deere in those days wasn't the player in 4wd tractors. Steiger and Versatile owned the market
@@ralphllivrah9551Considering Tenneco bought Steiger and put it with Case and IH, and Ford had Versatile and today Versatile does have a decent marketshare in it's homeland of the Canadian and US prairies, they didn't lose much.
Even being owned by Kern County Land and then Tenneco since way back in 1964, I'm still surprised that Case still existed by 1983-4 (when this video was made). Of the seven North American companies making a full line of ag tractors at the time (Deere, Harvester, Allis, Case, Massey, White, and Ford), Case was the only one who offered no other farm equipment besides tractors. They exited the farm implement business back in 1972, the same year Tenneco bought Case from Kern County. Clearly they were living on backhoes and other construction equipment, but it was also true that Tenneco was ready to dump Case if they couldn't make Case into a larger player in the market (which they instead did by buying the ag side of IH).
Tenneco forced Case to dump barely profitable or unprofitable lines. Case as a whole was break even to losing money every year. Tenneco bought IH and Steiger to make Case profitable enough to spin off or sell. They couldn't sell Case before as there was no buyer for it who could make it.
@@Jordannelson23 I looked and the 1978 brochures do say The Rising Power in Farming. What year did the 7010 come out? That brochure introducing the new 7010 says Better by Design. I think it was 1979 or 1980. I don't have that brochure to take a look at the print date code.
@@Jordannelson23 Oh and my 1973 7030/7050 brochures says The Rising Power in Farming. It also says The Orange Age Begins but I think that brochure is the only one I have ever seen The Orange Age Begins..
@@RJ1999x Yes that is true but my January 1981 7010 thru 7080 brochure also says Better by Design...... along with The Power Squadron. Looking through my brochures, that is the earliest I've found that slogan, Better by Design. January 1981 almost a year later in December 1981 the 8000 series appeared. I always thought Allis had good slogans and great brochures.
We had a 4490 case. Bought it with 1800 hours . It was always broke down. We put 1000 hours on it and 30000 bucks into it. Most of the problems were operator related. And foolish spending. I bought a jd 8760. Put 1000 hrs on it with no problems. Sold it for what I paid for it. Buy a tractor you can use . Not just repair every day.
Ya because one company with bad ideas and poor quality joining forces with another company with bad ideas and poor quality will usually result (as we have seen with case HI)in more bad ideas and poor quality.
@@Jordannelson23 the partial power shift. I need not say more . That transmission should have been put together with wing nuts ... . And the case built engines (not the Scania ones ). 2500 hours between overhaul? Was common in the 70s &80s There is a reason there worth nothing but there price in scrap metal
@@robertmoulton2656 the 504 junk? you are a joker. I would have given you the final drive problems they had in the 70 series. 2594's and 3594's still sell competitive and this beef with the partial power shift? Is there a mid hp sized tractor that doesn't offer partial power shift as an option.
Great to see these CASE videos!!!
Kept waiting on him to say” we use clear glass.”
One line left out. You know this power plant is not Case. Thanks for sharing this 80s gold!!!!
Thank you for posting this
thank you for saving this old videos
When I started working for my neighbor years ago, he had 3 of these - 2 red ones and 1 white one. The last one left the farm around 8 years ago. Plenty of power !
one good looking one two that my Dad called Case IN HELL
Thank you for sharing these CASE videos!
Different by design didn't fly after Tenneco merged Case, IH and Steiger in 1985 and 86. They launched the Magnum series in 87, which was largely IH engineering that would have replaced their 88 series, so long gone was the CASE 504 engine and Power Shift trans.... Then in 88 they launched the Steiger articulated 4WD's, so long gone was this rigid frame axle steer 4WD engineering... At this point there was nothing left of any original CASE engineering in the new tractor lines, only the name...
CDC engines had 50% Case in it... that was about it. Magnum was IH of America, Maxxum was DB, 4wd was Steiger, the sub 100hp was IH GB or IH Germany
This video is pure gold! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the video. Had a 2870 Case, always was a good starting and good pulling tractor, only drawback was 15 mph travel speed. Would have loved to have one of these rare monsters.
I have one for sale.
Which is a great testimony to the scandi engine
What tire size did it have ?
Gotta love the insistence that it was a Case engine, not a down-tuned Scania truck engine. Actually, it'd be fun to see how one would go with the modern, 16.4L DC16 with 770hp and 2729lb-ft available.
It said Scania right on the damn thing, lol.
there is virtually no difference between the engine in a tractor and a truck - they're just diesel engines. It's all about the transmission - if you build the transmission to properly match the engine and the machine it goes in you can get the same performance, but possibly not the same fuel economy.
Grande Máquina, saudades desse tempo!
Thanks for posting this. Any idea where to find the great Case lawn tractor TV commercials from the early 80's? "NO Belts, NO Chains, Get Tough, get a Case!
I've tried to find those too, there's a lot of Case forums but I haven't checked them all, if I find it I'll give you a holler.
Great video
Great, thanks for sharing!
My Dad had one of these awesome tractors.
Is this guys name John Dorimas from the radio show...The Passing Parade. I used to hear him on the radio here in Australia when I was a kid in the 70,s.
Better nice
I do love there old case promos . Time has not been kind to these tractors. Junk when they rolled off the assembly line. The only thing that makes them valuable is how few are still running .
Just think if they wouldn't have been junk. Most features were copied.like tilt hood. Just the 80's weren't a good time to try new ideas.
@@ramshackleshack751 the case partial shift should have been dropped sooner. Disaster 😬
@@robertmoulton2656my cousin runs one of these engines in his tractorpuller. Bought a 4wd with shot transmission cheap, put it in a 2wd for cheap horsepower.
Let's talk about the case partial power shift. Lol
No kidding
JD and IH are back to offering partial power shift in the 150hp-ish tractors so ya lets talk
@@admiraltroll5255 your not old enough to remember case and the power shift from the 70's . If you put it on a baler you where usually repairing the transmission every couple years
@@robertmoulton2656 Ran a 1570 to till and pull wagons with on my uncle's farm. no bailing though.
Not as nice as full power shift but ya gotta use what ya got.
Use 3-1(good ground) to take off. shift to 4-1 once i got the train a moving. Can't lolly gant and don't shift in 2 or 3(auto goes to 1)
personaly have a 530 in the demonic Case-o-matic :) PO'ed a guy at my day job when i told him the reason he hated is families 800 was because he didn't know how to run it
Long and short im a young idiot but i love me some old junk:)
These are awesome. Thank you for sharing.
Case "Different by Design"
Allis Chalmers " Better by Design".
I always find it funny how companies stretch the truth with marketing, and don't know their competition.
John Deere in those days wasn't the player in 4wd tractors.
Steiger and Versatile owned the market
To allis chalmers credit they were better by design the 7000 were pretty hot back in the 70s
@@Jordannelson23 true
You mean lost the market?
@@ralphllivrah9551Considering Tenneco bought Steiger and put it with Case and IH, and Ford had Versatile and today Versatile does have a decent marketshare in it's homeland of the Canadian and US prairies, they didn't lose much.
The Case 4wd tractors were so cool.
Yep. So long as you went paying for the repairs they were great!
Case was very deceptive when they call their scania engine a case diesel 'now the A504 was a real Case engine.
Even being owned by Kern County Land and then Tenneco since way back in 1964, I'm still surprised that Case still existed by 1983-4 (when this video was made). Of the seven North American companies making a full line of ag tractors at the time (Deere, Harvester, Allis, Case, Massey, White, and Ford), Case was the only one who offered no other farm equipment besides tractors. They exited the farm implement business back in 1972, the same year Tenneco bought Case from Kern County. Clearly they were living on backhoes and other construction equipment, but it was also true that Tenneco was ready to dump Case if they couldn't make Case into a larger player in the market (which they instead did by buying the ag side of IH).
Tenneco forced Case to dump barely profitable or unprofitable lines. Case as a whole was break even to losing money every year. Tenneco bought IH and Steiger to make Case profitable enough to spin off or sell. They couldn't sell Case before as there was no buyer for it who could make it.
I hated getting into that cab
Allis-Chalmers used the slogan "Better by Design" back starting in 1978 I think.
Then it was the rising power in Farming after that if I'm correct
@@Jordannelson23 I looked and the 1978 brochures do say The Rising Power in Farming. What year did the 7010 come out? That brochure introducing the new 7010 says Better by Design. I think it was 1979 or 1980. I don't have that brochure to take a look at the print date code.
@@Jordannelson23 Oh and my 1973 7030/7050 brochures says The Rising Power in Farming. It also says The Orange Age Begins but I think that brochure is the only one I have ever seen The Orange Age Begins..
The 8000 series said better by design
@@RJ1999x Yes that is true but my January 1981 7010 thru 7080 brochure also says Better by Design...... along with The Power Squadron. Looking through my brochures, that is the earliest I've found that slogan, Better by Design. January 1981 almost a year later in December 1981 the 8000 series appeared. I always thought Allis had good slogans and great brochures.
I wonder how many of these do work in 2021?
I have seen them...Some in bootheel Missouri...
None I bet.. No parts available
I have a 4994 with a bad piston. I'm looking for someone who wants to buy it.
@@delbutler885 location? Price?
My neighbor has one
The shade thrown at John Deere though at 15:30 🤣
You cant skip shift?
Is that the farm sim base game truck
Sure shit looks like it 🤣
Its got a Scania V8 for power.
"Case - Different By Design" What? You mean they meant to do that?
Scania power
didn't they buy white
No, Case never owned White. Through a series of mergers White became part of AGCO Corporation.
@@bn4172 ok
We had a 4490 case. Bought it with 1800 hours . It was always broke down. We put 1000 hours on it and 30000 bucks into it. Most of the problems were operator related. And foolish spending. I bought a jd 8760. Put 1000 hrs on it with no problems. Sold it for what I paid for it. Buy a tractor you can use . Not just repair every day.
Not going to lie Case sucks with out International
Ya because one company with bad ideas and poor quality joining forces with another company with bad ideas and poor quality will usually result (as we have seen with case HI)in more bad ideas and poor quality.
@@robertmoulton2656 how were both bad not disagreeing with you but could you explain
@@Jordannelson23 the partial power shift. I need not say more . That transmission should have been put together with wing nuts ... . And the case built engines (not the Scania ones ). 2500 hours between overhaul? Was common in the 70s &80s
There is a reason there worth nothing but there price in scrap metal
@@robertmoulton2656 the 504 junk? you are a joker. I would have given you the final drive problems they had in the 70 series. 2594's and 3594's still sell competitive and this beef with the partial power shift? Is there a mid hp sized tractor that doesn't offer partial power shift as an option.
And international would be completely gone had it not been for case
Witch one of the two tractors in this vid still runs today the deere or the case would love to know
Probably the Case due to collector interest. Deere's 4x4s were not something to write home about in that era.