Biggest difference, you don't see the freedom bird everyday at Paris Island. At San Diego, you are training right next to the airport, freedom is on the other side of that fence. At P.I. freedom is swimming across a swamp filled with alligators, the only way on and off is across that bridge.
vance jones and we knew it wouldn't be long that we'll be flying out headed home giving a toast with a drink in our hands with our buddies and looking down at the new recruits running the course. That was my experience when I left on that jet. I was a happy man.
Steve O fuck that dude. I remember looking out at the san diego hills and all the nice homes while cleaning a window once and almost cried because i wanted to be out there so bad lol plus there are no women there
@@BK-uy9nj Bro women were trouble. We'd be in formation marching to the chow hall as a female series were falling in to leave. Being blue balled, you or another recruit would always get caught trying to sneak a side eye glance. Out of nowhere the screeching voice of a female DI screaming "what are you looking at, recruit?" My DI's would have a meltdown and explode on us because another DI had to correct his recruits.
you gotta admit that there is a bit of nostalgia for those of us trained at P.I...... but ultimately I've got a Marines back no matter where he or she trained!!!!
Steven One they are required to start going to SD within the next 5 or so years, and there are already female DIs at SD. Females already train at SOI-West.
As a Recruit of Parris Island and a Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego... there is no difference between those who graduate from either one... they are all basically trained in the love our Corps. Semper Fi
@Interdimensional Bigfoot As a San Diego Marine, I know nothing of Parris Island sand fleas outside of a scene in the old Jack Webb movie "The D.I.", but I know the planes taking off and landing at the San Diego airport next door can be a distracting test of a recruit's discipline.
That is such a typical "officer" answer. Politically correct, non-offensive and won't cause a stir. Well done, sir. NOW...go ask as many ENLISTED Marines as you did officers those same questions and you'll get MUCH MORE HONEST answers! For full disclosure, I went to San Diego and I will take the hills, dust and sweat of Camp Pendleton over the HUMIDITY of Parris Island ANY day! You can have Parris Island...and the sand fleas and the humidity! But he's right...at the end of the day, Marines are Marines and I was proud to serve along side ANY and ALL of them! Semper Fi!
I am 74 years old went to PI. I Also went to guerrilla warfare training in San D. On my way to Vietnam I must say the swamp and s.fleas are tough but the hill we had to climb every mourning wasn’t easy either. I wouldn’t swap either memory.
Actually - M.C.R.D.-S.D. is flat, right next to Lindbergh Field. The Rifle and Infantry basic training is done at Camp Pendleton, north of S.D. off the I-5. (( Recruits are loaded onto busses at S.D. and sent north to Camp Pendleton for 2nd Phase of "Boot Camp". At least they were in the "Vietnam Era". )). There are some very serious mountains at Camp San Onofre. If it snowed in that area ( it does not ) there would be a serious ski resort built in the Pendleton mountains. :-)
P.I. in '68, later to Pendleton, and from there to Da Nang in very early '69. I wear a camo cover every day. Heck, some days I shave as if an inspection will happen. Semper Fi.
Which is worse.... I went to Parris Island and the Humidity and Sand Fleas will always be embedded in my mind. Had the pleasure of experiencing San Diego also and seeing their training regime and they both are designed to test your mental and physical endurance. Trust me I don't care where you got your basic training at because we all know the real training comes in the fleet !!!! Semper Fi !!!
I went to P.I. 1976 Platoon 156 All Pennsylvania State Plt. Now back to the difference between them ? NONE !! After graduation they both "earned the title of THE UNITED STATES MARINE. Semper Fi
Having gone to PI as a recruit and then back as a DI I’d say both depots have minuses! Sand fleas, swamps and unusual weather. But in SD not sure if I want to be seeing those planes taking off everyday. Semper Fi Marines
Imo, what was worse for me than Lindbergh Field and my Platoon was that our Squad Bay windows faced the city of S.D. and at night, so if you had "Fire Watch" you could actually see the lights on in people's homes on the hill. Thought I would never get out of that place.
I heard Holywood Marines receive sun screen to work on their tan...lol. DI's favorite pet= Sand flea, fire ants, alligator. I went through 1980 PI, I will never forget it. Semper FI, Thank you. Take care, Be safe.
We are forever grateful for all those who raise their right hand and choose to serve our country as MARINES. THANK YOU !! 👍🇺🇸. From an old Air Force guy.
My dad did 33 years in the Army Air Corps and the Air Force. He flew B47s with the 509th Bomb Wing going with them from Walker in Roswell, NM to Pease in Portsmouth,NH to Anderson in Guam, MI and then Bangor, ME. He wasn’t real happy that I went Marine but it was ‘68 and every warm body was sent to Vietnam. I figured I’d be safer with a more focused group. Thank you for your service sir.
@@kimhorton6109 Haven’t heard a B-47 reference in a long long time. Reminds me of the Jimmy Steward movie Strategic Air Command. I was in New Mexico too Kirkland AFB in Albuquerque. I missed Viet Nam enlisting after high school in 76. Thank you for your service. 👍🇺🇸
I arrived at MCRD San Diego in the summer of 1960. Don't know when you were there, but if it was more recent than that, I'm glad to hear that it hasn't changed much. I'll always remember waking in my bedroom suite to the soothing sounds of a string quartet as the Drill Instructor delivered the breakfast I had ordered the night before. Delicious memories.
@@tomveatch2994 I went through in 1966…I think you pretty much captured the situation. I kept thinking, “ I wish I had joined the Navy or Air Force”…they were supposed to be a lot less demanding of recruits…😎
My dad went to San Diego in 1973 for recruitment training.He was told to shut up going in the bus and the drill instructor said my dad was one of his puppy dogs.He has told me so many memories what he went through Marines boot camp
in 79 I finished boot in parris island, no matter where I went through out my 22 years I was always in the company of my brothers, and that is what is important in the Corps
Once you get to “A” school, you’ll meet Marines from both San Diego and PI. Once you get to the fleet, it doesn’t make a difference. Everyone gets sh*t on the same....oorah.
The reaper, recon ridge, the ankle breaker , the microwave etc are all mountain hikes that make boot camp or Mct west coast way harder then walking in flat circles in the Carolinas for boot camp and mct.
@Dexter Roberts thanks dexter. I was at Mateo and we climbed mount mother many a times, front side and back. I probably also did the reaper, but just don’t remember anything by that name. Of course this was many many years ago.
I went through MCRD San Diego. I remember that first few minutes when our Senior DI made this statement: "I just know that you maggots are relieved to be here at MCRD San Diego. You think that you skated because you aren't at Parris Island. Well, I have a message for you. Parris Island has the REPUTATION. WE want it!" Then it got underway! SEMPER FI!
As a 3rd battalion Marine at Parris Island I can ensure that that is as tuff as it gets! But we are ALL Marines no matter where you went to boot camp or where you came from and we are all green. Semper Fi my brothers and sisters!
Josh Hall Amen Brother! When I went through there in '81 there was an airlines, PSA the planes had a smile painted under the nose. The DI's would tell us that plane is smiling because its leaving and your not! Gawd was glad to finally get to that airport!!! Semper Fi
aww, that noise screwed your mind, boohoo-hoo! :'( the sound of those Boeings are nothing compared to fighter jets. For all of us at our platoon it was a motivating and exciting sound
DI: Alright recruits get the (Airplane landed, didn’t hear a fucking word) Me: Standing there waiting for the shit storm DI: oh really bitch? Ok, empty your pockets 😂😂😂😂
I went to boot camp at San Diego and was a DI at Parris Island, both have their challenges Mt. MF and sand flies. I'm with the Major, the Marine Corps makes the best Marines.
I went through boot camp at MCRD San Diego during the Viet Nam conflict. I don't know whether the training Parris Island was tougher or not. San Diego International Airport, Lindbergh Field was right across the fence from MCRD San Diego and that generated it's own particular mental stress. The guys who went to PI called us "Hollywood Marines" who were issued surfboards and sunglasses during basic training. All I have to say to those who went through boot camp at PI is yes it did break my heart when I had to turn them in when basic training was finished.
I myself enlisted in Texas and went to San Diego and there were recruits in my platoon who joined up in New Jersey. When we graduated I was the only one in the platoon sent to the east coast and after ITS I was with 1/8 Marines. I then did a tour as a DI at PI. PI was tough because I made it tough. No sissies graduated from my platoons.
That "demarcation line" of the Mississippi river defining which MCRD one attends is not solid. I enlisted in Detroit, Michigan back in the middle 1960's, which is well east of the Mississippi river, yet I was sent to San Diego for recruit training. When the chips are down, you don't ask which coast a guy went through boot camp, you automatically cover each other's six and get the job done because you are both Marines. There were guys I argued with and did knuckle dances on, but when the shit hit the fan, I shared my ammo with them if they ran short, because they had my back as I had theirs.
Love how the officer's try to be diplomatic and then there final comment is a firm decision on which depot is better. Seem like rad dudes, especially the Mustang Capt.
It is a totally different experience going through Parris during the summer with bugs, sand fleas, the humidity and heat. San Diego climate is best in world. We had many heat casualties and one death when I went through in 1976 due to heat. I now live in San Diego 1 mile from the San Diego base. There is no fregin comparison! Parris is much tougher!
I also went through basic at PI in 1976. Starting out June on the yellow foot prints in the middle of the night, then crazy choas in reception and ending up in 2nd Battion, platoon 251 with the number 41 marked on everything assigned to me. Twevel weeks of sand fleas and no see'ems chowing down on us, caked in sand and mud, totally soaked in sweat with it being so humid. Either loaded up with gear humping and running down the road and paths under a blistering sun, or bends and thrust on hot pavement, with DI's on your ass every second is what I remember. I recall when in third phase some first phase recruit trying to kill himself by jumping out the window from the third floor. I did not see the jump or landing. I saw him twitching around on the sidewalk all messed up as two DI's stood by him chewing his ass out for breaking government property, being the window for starters. They did not back off till a couple of corpman got there. It was rumored the recruit died at sickbay. Yeah that's PI. I ended up in motor transport MOS 3531 at MCAS El Toro, and Tustin LTA, 3rd MAW, WTS-37 which later become WTS-373. Often TDY at Twently-Nine Palms out at the EAF supporting training for the weekend warriors doing their summer drill. Lots of equipment runs to North Island Air Station in Diego. Got out in 80 and head off to college.
As a recruit I was in boot camp at San Diego and I was a Drill Instructor at Parris Island the only difference I noticed was sand fleas and heat humidity other then that it was the same.
I was offered either coast when I enlisted in 75, from Kansas. It was January and I asked the recruiter, "Where's it warmer,?". "You want to go to San Diego then.". So I did. I figure wherever you went it was the most traumatic experience of your young life. If you survive that crucible you earn the title, then it doesn't matter where you did it, just that you did do it.
If you have a choice, choose San Diego. The weather is more stable and more conducive to being outdoors. San Diego winters are a low of 40-50 degrees F with a high of 60, Summers are a low of 50 and a high of 60-80 degrees F. The 55 degree F Pacific Ocean keeps the are temperatures stable. Go inland 10-20 miles, and add 10-20 degrees during Summer.
They forgot to mention San Diego Marines are issued board shorts, boogie boards, suntan lotion and Wayfarer sunglasses....................Hollywood!, thats how we roll!.......ha ha!
Hahahahahaha! Someone else must've taken mine! Besides, in my time there, the boogie board hadn't been invented, although we made our own from 1/4" plywood, hand sanded, and a coat of shellack. I loved Santa Monica Beach. Our "skim boards" as we called them were heavy but fun to use. Also, a steel-wheeled roller skate with folded cardboard for a seat made for lots of sparks going downhill on asphalt streets especially as it got dark. You guessed it, their was the occasional seat fire. Life was simple and good.
@@5Ring I agree Marine. Sorry for the mistake. You guys are the damn best ever. My Dad lost a leg in Luzon. My Uncle did 6 landings in the Pacific. Another was a Korean Vet and ended up guarding President Eisenhower. Nothing but love. Former LEO. But not a Marine. Best friends Dad on Suribachi .
In the end they're all brothers sharing a common bond. Brothers 'till the end! They're all riflemen!!! I like the USMC tradition that they "Never leave their dead behind". God bless all the grunts everywhere WWII to Afghanistan. Dedicated to Capt. Bill Major and the Marines of Operation Medina October 1967, I Corps, South Vietnam, Hai lang forest.
My Dad graduated Paris Island and so did my Son. But my belief is once a Marine always a Marine! Hollywood or not, I have respect for them all!! Semper Fi, Do or Die!!!!
It’s really not tho...lmfao. I went to boot camp in MCRD San Diego in the summer and it was hotter than a mother fucker out there especially in Pendleton. The hiking alone is physically harder than anything done in PI...
Did Boot camp in PI the swamps were intimidating and the sand fleas were omnipresent and maddening. Then I went to Pendleton for SOI then I started humping those hills and that was a whole new level of of WTF are my legs going through! I guess that means I cross trained both.
I'm a San Diego Marine. The hills are tough at first. But eventually it's no big deal. You get in incredible shape after a while, especially when you go to SOI or MCT out there and live on those things. My orders read V32 (3/2 Camp Lejeune). I arrived, checked in. When that was done in 2 days, I had an 18 mile hump the third day. And it was flat. That part was nice except it was mostly black top the entire fuckin thing, and humid as fuck which I wasn't used to anymore after being out west for 7 months. Nothings ever going to be nice and comfy and pleasant all the time. You'll have to endure and work through some kind of irritation no matter where you go. Hump'n in 95 F heat with 100% humidity in Lejeune my first time was pretty miserable, even though it was flat. And that's where I was introduced to chaffing LOL. That sucked LOL.
A Marine recruit is a Marine recruit, doesn’t make a difference where they go thru recruit training at. Much respect needs to be given to each of the recruit training depots. The DI’s are going to be in your face, no matter where you at. Talking about the DI’s a hell of a lot of respect goes out to them, The amount of hours they give, and the 200% effort, they put in, to try and make every recruit, part of the worlds best fighting force, a UNITED STATES MARINE. SEMPER FI.
Semper Fi my brothers and sisters, 50 years ago my adventure started at San Dog; Between the beatings and profanities I was so glad to finally graduate a basic MARINE, and enjoyed my four hours of base liberty; what i did not enjoy was my tour in NAM, But time passed, and i made it home in one piece. Our beloved CORPS, would not let me have the career path i wanted SO, I went across to the NAVY, and retired with 23 years of faithful Service. BUT know this, Once a Marine always a Marine, My heart belongs to the CORPS, But my sea legs to the NAVY 🤢🇺🇸👍
Not Many guys can Handle, becoming a Marine... I think we have to be Just a Little Tougher than the Average Bear !!! And Maybe Just a Little Nuttier Also !!! Semper Fi !!! Im 75 years old Now, and i would Never Trade the Memories !!!
We "Hollywood Marines" certainly appreciate the absence of the sand fleas during our training in San Diego, California. Those guys at Parris Island endured more than we did, getting through recruit training.
I was in San Diego. I think the training there isn't as harsh as P.I. because you are in the public eye more. my friends and family who were at P.I. thought San Diego was a little more kinder and gentler than P.I. it's all subjective. I was a navy medical officer assigned to the marines and I loved it. I wish I was young again so I could do it all over again. there isn't much call for a 70 yr old surgeon with the marines. I have a hard enough time keeping up with my goats. I developed a love for those boys that I can only explain thru tears....SEMPER FI.
Well when I joined 50 some years ago after we had our physicals took the oath, the. Gunny said I'm going to give you a break, the only one your going to get.There is a plane leaving for PI and SD same time, which one. There were 11 of us we took a vote decided on San Deigo because most of the guys had never been to California. So this is how these Illinois boys became Hollywood Marines.
Smart Move From what i heard, those Sand Fleas, and the Humidity, was Not for the Faint of Heart !!! It's been 58 years Now since i was at MCRD !!! Gee i miss every minute of it !!! Just Kidding !!!!!
almighty_salt it’s a joke compared to the Corps’ Reaper, otherwise known as Mt. MuthaFukka. Both male and female recruits have to do it, as well as the Crucible.
I went through san diego my buddy went to p.i., he went on to become a d.i. at san diego and told me the hills are killers. He said the difference is san diego you handwash your laundry yourself and the mountains. I told him, I noticed the way we salute is the only difference ,I see. P.I marines I noticed bring their elbow higher for a salute.
Parris Island for sure. Military bearing had to be top notch and boy was it hard not to flinch while getting bitten. I'd take the hills of MCRD San Diego over the sand fleas of PI any day.
San Diego is hot as shit, it is in the south after all. Hot, dry, looks dry, freedom is right there- the temptation of seeing it creates strong marines.
I went thru MCRD in San Diego back in 1985 funny when we went on out PT run the navy would be on the other side of the fence doing their PT. Also seeing the airplanes flying out every night wondering when you would be on that freedom bird after recruit training, to go home for a few days before your next duty assignment. Still ended up with the sand fleas at Camp Lejeune NC.
East coast, West coast, it makes no difference. Marines are Marines. With that being said, sand fleas are the hell spawn and Parris Island is full of them. Semper Fi USMC(RET)
I entered the Marine Corps from Chicago in October 1975. There were eleven of us recruits that shipped. Ten recruits went to MCRD San Diego and I went to MCRD Parris Island. Semper Fi!
Literally I went to MCRD Diego....we are the tougher group of Marines once we come out, I remember going through combat training, and doing the death runs and hikes with guys from Parris...all they did was slow us down and bitch the whole time about the mountains....that we had hiked up during boot. lol
lol both places have their advantages and disadvantages for Marines, but you can't judge like "Parris Island Marines" for a couple of Marines from there lol. Both places make good Marines!
Parris Island is no joke. Went their for basic leadership training in high school and it was definitely a challenge. The humidity and sand fleas kill you the most. Gotta love being in SC
Haha I'm from San Diego ! And shit we do have fucking hills every where! Dam too bad I'm going to Perris Island but Marines are Marines no matter where .
you wouldn't be able to handle the hills. you'd get medically dropped if you don't flat out quit. hopefully you'll do the spelling for marines mci very soon.
Best wishes and Semper fi. I went to San Diego in 1978 for bootcamp and later on I had the priviledge to serve as a Drilll Instructor at Parris Island in 1984-86. Each coast had different weather but the training is the same and challenging on both sides. my advice,never fall out of a run and never quit. You'll do fine.
I was drafted into the Marines at AFEES in Chicago. I was sent to San Diego for boot camp. That disburses two rumors. First, I was drafted into the Marines at AFEES in Chicago. So during Vietnam the Marines did draft. Second, I was drafted east of the Mississipi, and was sent to SanDiego for my boot, which proves they do not always send recruits east of the Mississipi to Parris Island. USMC 1969-1971
My dad graduated from PI in 54, I graduated from San Diego in 94. The interesting thing is that my dad's tie bar graduated with me. It was black, so he had to get special permission for me to be out of uniform. My dad also wore his Marine Alphas to my graduation, complete with his E-4 sgt stripes. He got a few "you need a haircut Marine" comments. He was 61 Maybe my daughter will walk it across PI again in another 10 years.
Went to MCRD San Diego, visited Parris Island. I talked to a 1stSgt in PI who trained recruits in both. They get the same training regardless, he said the only difference is the weather. The recruits in both coast got their ow way of learning but the end result is a Marine. Therefore I don’t care what coast you went to. Im putting in a package to become a Drill Instructor in Parris Island because it’ll be a change for me. Wish me luck.
*I have done both* I've been stationed on both coasts as an infantryman. East Coast: Very old school, technically proficient, and very stringent. The swamps/woods suck and so does the cold. West Coast: Physically WAY more demanding, but way more laid back. There's a reason why ITB on the West Coast is shared with Recon. West Coast Marines are almost always physically stronger. Also, SoCal rubs off on Marines here. Even down in Coronado during boat school/scout swimmer school its more laid back. Generally, West Coast Marines are more mature as you are EXPECTED to be very good at your job and physically sound. On the East, its more baby fuck fuck games and micromanagement. That being said command is a big influencer as well. Cheers
Your free time ? Your time is not your's, it belongs to the Corps! My free time, I wrote letters if my boots were polished, my uniform for the next day was squared away. Got to watch a movie on Easter Sunday afternoon after Church 1977 in the barracks, "Sands of Iwo Jima". God bless Sargent Striker, and God bless Chesty Puller ( witch my uncle was in 1/7 on the canal WWII). So Semper Fi, and get it done. Golf Co., 2/7 1st Mar Div. 1977-1980
You get sent whichever is the closest coast. I grew up in california. Most marines went to San Diego. If you grew up in Florida, you go to Parris Island.
The biggest difference I discovered about Parris Island vs San Diego graduates: If you ask a Marine where they went to boot camp and they reply, "MCRD" - They went to San Diego. A Parris Island Marine will simply say, "Parris Island." Hey San Diego guys - They are BOTH MCRD - Marine Corps Recruit Depot. In the end - WE ARE ALL MARINES! Semper Fi brothers and sisters! BTW: Parris Island Marine here.
sand fleas would bite the living shit out of you but those bastards were barely visible but it felt like a dog was biting on you.the dis would tell us to stand still because they gotta eat too
They should also interview Marines who went to Parris Island and San Diego during the 1940 and 1950, compared to Marines who went to either base more recently. My dad went to Parris Island at the age of 17 in August of 1950. A guy broke his arm just getting off of the bus. It's hotter than the gates of hell there, and humid. You don't leave duiring training, no family visits, even during graduation, no PX visits. My dad went to the PX his last day to buy a suitcase. Boots were punished physically and mentally. Even back then they referred to the San Diego Marines as Hollywood Marines. My dad did go to San Diego for radio school and said the weather was perfect, it was the nicest place he had ever been. He also went to Pickle Meadow for cold weather training before shipping out to Korea.
Grad Parris Island in 89. Did MCT and SOI at Gieger. That was all roughly 21 weeks of training the last 8 being all Infantry....into the Fleet . Thought I knew my s... But it was like going from collage ball to the NFL. Thats when school really began. 2/2nd Marines! Second to none. Semper Fi!
Nope, they keep that shit there so when California decides to feel a little independent, they send the next fresh batch of recruits to the liberal fair
Carrying a gun does not make you safer... California houses the most elite warriors in our military. Whether you take a bike ride by Coronado and see the Navy Seals train or visit the beach and see the U.S. Marines holding maneuvering drills. You can also look up at the sky and catch an F-35 flyover. The world's elite are everywhere... no need for John Doe to carry a semi just for show.
If you are leagally immigrating you would have no problem trying to join the Marine Corps. I say trying because just because you apply does not mean you get to head to boot camp. Best advise I can give you is contact the nearest Counselate or the Embassy in Canbaerra and make an appointment with a Counsular Officer. You can also visit canberra dot usembassy dot gov and uscis dot gov to search immigration requirements. Your greatest hurdle at the moment is immigration not recruiting.
The difference is the Humidity, thats it. If you want to train in a Suana, then PI it is. If you want to train in spectacular weather then San Diego it is.
BlueLivesMatter Supporter: You come from good stock to honor your grandpa. He obviously left a strong impression upon you and it comes through loud and clear. I'm sure your grandpa was as good a person as you are.
The biggest difference is the geographic location and climate. In San Diego the weather is good year round but more hills to climb. In Parris Island you have to deal with the swamps, bugs, high humidity and sometimes it gets cold. West Coast the best coast!
Biggest difference, you don't see the freedom bird everyday at Paris Island. At San Diego, you are training right next to the airport, freedom is on the other side of that fence. At P.I. freedom is swimming across a swamp filled with alligators, the only way on and off is across that bridge.
vance jones and we knew it wouldn't be long that we'll be flying out headed home giving a toast with a drink in our hands with our buddies and looking down at the new recruits running the course.
That was my experience when I left on that jet. I was a happy man.
I could see my aunts house and sister’s work from my squad bay. Shit sucked ass.
Nah san diego got some real g's
Steve O fuck that dude. I remember looking out at the san diego hills and all the nice homes while cleaning a window once and almost cried because i wanted to be out there so bad lol plus there are no women there
@@BK-uy9nj Bro women were trouble. We'd be in formation marching to the chow hall as a female series were falling in to leave. Being blue balled, you or another recruit would always get caught trying to sneak a side eye glance. Out of nowhere the screeching voice of a female DI screaming "what are you looking at, recruit?" My DI's would have a meltdown and explode on us because another DI had to correct his recruits.
you gotta admit that there is a bit of nostalgia for those of us trained at P.I...... but ultimately I've got a Marines back no matter where he or she trained!!!!
Jonas Pitts females train at Paris island only
Steven One they are required to start going to SD within the next 5 or so years, and there are already female DIs at SD. Females already train at SOI-West.
@@almighty_salt9648 mcrd sd is older than mcrd pi.
@@GETBENT1331 False
I've always heard that OCS Quantico was harder than either one.
As a Recruit of Parris Island and a Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego... there is no difference between those who graduate from either one... they are all basically trained in the love our Corps. Semper Fi
The humidity at PI sucks ballz. And that’s why it’s better.
@@CorePathway Better for training, yep. Conversely the heat in San Diego sucks.
@@phcusnret Climbing the Grim Reaper is no joke, either.
@Interdimensional Bigfoot rattlesnakes at Camp Pendleton ☠️
@Interdimensional Bigfoot As a San Diego Marine, I know nothing of Parris Island sand fleas outside of a scene in the old Jack Webb movie "The D.I.", but I know the planes taking off and landing at the San Diego airport next door can be a distracting test of a recruit's discipline.
Who makes tougher Marines?
"The Marine Corps" -Maj Frank Moore-
Lmao
You are obviously unaware of the best Marines in the world.........Her Majesty's Royal Marines!
@@m.b.g.musicproduction9658 you're right you were the best marines before 1775
That is such a typical "officer" answer. Politically correct, non-offensive and won't cause a stir. Well done, sir. NOW...go ask as many ENLISTED Marines as you did officers those same questions and you'll get MUCH MORE HONEST answers! For full disclosure, I went to San Diego and I will take the hills, dust and sweat of Camp Pendleton over the HUMIDITY of Parris Island ANY day! You can have Parris Island...and the sand fleas and the humidity! But he's right...at the end of the day, Marines are Marines and I was proud to serve along side ANY and ALL of them! Semper Fi!
DI
I am 74 years old went to PI. I Also went to guerrilla warfare training in San D. On my way to Vietnam I must say the swamp and s.fleas are tough but the hill we had to climb every mourning wasn’t easy either. I wouldn’t swap either memory.
Same, same except i was Hollywood from footprints to RVN.
Thanks.
Thank you for your service. 🇺🇸
Actually - M.C.R.D.-S.D. is flat, right next to Lindbergh Field. The Rifle and Infantry basic training is done at Camp Pendleton, north of S.D. off the I-5. (( Recruits are loaded onto busses at S.D. and sent north to Camp Pendleton for 2nd Phase of "Boot Camp". At least they were in the "Vietnam Era". )).
There are some very serious mountains at Camp San Onofre. If it snowed in that area ( it does not ) there would be a serious ski resort built in the Pendleton mountains. :-)
P.I. in '68, later to Pendleton, and from there to Da Nang in very early '69. I wear a camo cover every day. Heck, some days I shave as if an inspection will happen. Semper Fi.
Which is worse.... I went to Parris Island and the Humidity and Sand Fleas will always be embedded in my mind. Had the pleasure of experiencing San Diego also and seeing their training regime and they both are designed to test your mental and physical endurance. Trust me I don't care where you got your basic training at because we all know the real training comes in the fleet !!!! Semper Fi !!!
I went to P.I. 1976 Platoon 156 All Pennsylvania State Plt. Now back to the difference between them ? NONE !! After graduation they both "earned the title of THE UNITED STATES MARINE. Semper Fi
Great response. 👍👍👍
Yeah....we don't call it "basic training". If you wanna be......a little doggy.
@@gulfmarine8857 Whatever I don't have nothing to prove to you I know my I earned my EGA in 1987 ! You sound like ya have salt in Vag !
@@billnelson3405 Semper Fi !!
Having gone to PI as a recruit and then back as a DI I’d say both depots have minuses! Sand fleas, swamps and unusual weather. But in SD not sure if I want to be seeing those planes taking off everyday.
Semper Fi Marines
Imo, what was worse for me than Lindbergh Field and my Platoon was that our Squad Bay windows faced the city of S.D. and at night, so if you had "Fire Watch" you could actually see the lights on in people's homes on the hill. Thought I would never get out of that place.
I heard Holywood Marines receive sun screen to work on their tan...lol.
DI's favorite pet= Sand flea, fire ants, alligator.
I went through 1980 PI, I will never forget it.
Semper FI, Thank you.
Take care,
Be safe.
We are forever grateful for all those who raise their right hand and choose to serve our country as MARINES. THANK YOU !! 👍🇺🇸. From an old Air Force guy.
My dad did 33 years in the Army Air Corps and the Air Force. He flew B47s with the 509th Bomb Wing going with them from Walker in Roswell, NM to Pease in Portsmouth,NH to Anderson in Guam, MI and then Bangor, ME. He wasn’t real happy that I went Marine but it was ‘68 and every warm body was sent to Vietnam. I figured I’d be safer with a more focused group.
Thank you for your service sir.
@@kimhorton6109 Haven’t heard a B-47 reference in a long long time. Reminds me of the Jimmy Steward movie Strategic Air Command. I was in New Mexico too Kirkland AFB in Albuquerque. I missed Viet Nam enlisting after high school in 76.
Thank you for your service. 👍🇺🇸
I spent 22 years in the Army, but some of my best days were attached to the First Mar Div in Fallujah, in 04.
I went to San Diego. It was sunny, easy, fun, gentle, kind..., slept in till noon every day, breakfast in bed...., movies every night. Then I woke up.
Lol
😂😂😂
I arrived at MCRD San Diego in the summer of 1960. Don't know when you were there, but if it was more recent than that, I'm glad to hear that it hasn't changed much. I'll always remember waking in my bedroom suite to the soothing sounds of a string quartet as the Drill Instructor delivered the breakfast I had ordered the night before. Delicious memories.
@@tomveatch2994 I went through in 1966…I think you pretty much captured the situation. I kept thinking, “ I wish I had joined the Navy or Air Force”…they were supposed to be a lot less demanding of recruits…😎
@@tomveatch2994 I needed a good laugh. Thanks, and Semper Fi from a twenry-year Air Force veteran.
My dad went to San Diego in 1973 for recruitment training.He was told to shut up going in the bus and the drill instructor said my dad was one of his puppy dogs.He has told me so many memories what he went through Marines boot camp
in 79 I finished boot in parris island, no matter where I went through out my 22 years I was always in the company of my brothers, and that is what is important in the Corps
Once you get to “A” school, you’ll meet Marines from both San Diego and PI. Once you get to the fleet, it doesn’t make a difference. Everyone gets sh*t on the same....oorah.
Damn Right!
The reaper, recon ridge, the ankle breaker , the microwave etc are all mountain hikes that make boot camp or Mct west coast way harder then walking in flat circles in the Carolinas for boot camp and mct.
I’m guessing the reaper is the new more gentle name for mount mother f ker
@Dexter Roberts thanks dexter. I was at Mateo and we climbed mount mother many a times, front side and back. I probably also did the reaper, but just don’t remember anything by that name. Of course this was many many years ago.
@@devildog6698 you in ITB rn I'm 52 area
I went through MCRD San Diego. I remember that first few minutes when our Senior DI made this statement: "I just know that you maggots are relieved to be here at MCRD San Diego. You think that you skated because you aren't at Parris Island. Well, I have a message for you. Parris Island has the REPUTATION. WE want it!"
Then it got underway!
SEMPER FI!
B.S.
@@billschatz2340 What do you mean
As a 3rd battalion Marine at Parris Island I can ensure that that is as tuff as it gets! But we are ALL Marines no matter where you went to boot camp or where you came from and we are all green. Semper Fi my brothers and sisters!
The thing that screws with your mind the most at mcrd SD is the airport and all those jets leaving
Josh Hall
Amen Brother! When I went through there in '81 there was an airlines, PSA the planes had a smile painted under the nose.
The DI's would tell us that plane is smiling because its leaving and your not!
Gawd was glad to finally get to that airport!!!
Semper Fi
ribbon creek! and many more like it at Parris Island 1957 read history P.I is Bad Ass! all due respect to Hollywood
Yup I've driven past that one many times poor bastards lmao
Haha I just got home today back to San Diego and we flew right over MCRDSD
aww, that noise screwed your mind, boohoo-hoo! :'( the sound of those Boeings are nothing compared to fighter jets. For all of us at our platoon it was a motivating and exciting sound
DI: Alright recruits get the
(Airplane landed, didn’t hear a fucking word)
Me: Standing there waiting for the shit storm
DI: oh really bitch? Ok, empty your pockets
😂😂😂😂
I joined the army. I should have joined the MARINES. But I served my country and I am proud of that.
Del Davis when do you get out of the army?
Thank you for your service sir.
Respect.
I joined the Marines but should’ve joined the Air Force😅
You did your time. Hoorah
I went to boot camp at San Diego and was a DI at Parris Island, both have their challenges Mt. MF and sand flies. I'm with the Major, the Marine Corps makes the best Marines.
I went through boot camp at MCRD San Diego during the Viet Nam conflict. I don't know whether the training Parris Island was tougher or not. San Diego International Airport, Lindbergh Field was right across the fence from MCRD San Diego and that generated it's own particular mental stress. The guys who went to PI called us "Hollywood Marines" who were issued surfboards and sunglasses during basic training. All I have to say to those who went through boot camp at PI is yes it did break my heart when I had to turn them in when basic training was finished.
I myself enlisted in Texas and went to San Diego and there were recruits in my platoon who joined up in New Jersey. When we graduated I was the only one in the platoon sent to the east coast and after ITS I was with 1/8 Marines. I then did a tour as a DI at PI. PI was tough because I made it tough. No sissies graduated from my platoons.
If those other recruits were from New Jersey shouldn't they have gone to Paris Island
When did u become a DI
My 2 Uncles were sent to Parris Island during Vietnam.
That "demarcation line" of the Mississippi river defining which MCRD one attends is not solid. I enlisted in Detroit, Michigan back in the middle 1960's, which is well east of the Mississippi river, yet I was sent to San Diego for recruit training. When the chips are down, you don't ask which coast a guy went through boot camp, you automatically cover each other's six and get the job done because you are both Marines. There were guys I argued with and did knuckle dances on, but when the shit hit the fan, I shared my ammo with them if they ran short, because they had my back as I had theirs.
partriarch we're all marines.. but west coast marines are a lil bit harder n tougher;)
SD has the reaper and PI has ant hills.
Nunof Yobusiness Beats mucking through the swamp and woods.
partriarch Sometimes they shift bodies from one side to the other due to space reasons, especially those who lives closer to the Mississippi
My cousin enlisted in Ft. Wayne, IN and was sent to San Diego.
Love how the officer's try to be diplomatic and then there final comment is a firm decision on which depot is better. Seem like rad dudes, especially the Mustang Capt.
Graduated from P.I., S.C. 1981. It was a life changing experience I will never forget. Semper Fi!!
I graduated in 1983, platoon 2049...ditto your comment...ooRah!
It is a totally different experience going through Parris during the summer with bugs, sand fleas, the humidity and heat. San Diego climate is best in world. We had many heat casualties and one death when I went through in 1976 due to heat. I now live in San Diego 1 mile from the San Diego base. There is no fregin comparison! Parris is much tougher!
I also went through basic at PI in 1976. Starting out June on the yellow foot prints in the middle of the night, then crazy choas in reception and ending up in 2nd Battion, platoon 251 with the number 41 marked on everything assigned to me. Twevel weeks of sand fleas and no see'ems chowing down on us, caked in sand and mud, totally soaked in sweat with it being so humid. Either loaded up with gear humping and running down the road and paths under a blistering sun, or bends and thrust on hot pavement, with DI's on your ass every second is what I remember. I recall when in third phase some first phase recruit trying to kill himself by jumping out the window from the third floor. I did not see the jump or landing. I saw him twitching around on the sidewalk all messed up as two DI's stood by him chewing his ass out for breaking government property, being the window for starters. They did not back off till a couple of corpman got there. It was rumored the recruit died at sickbay.
Yeah that's PI.
I ended up in motor transport MOS 3531 at MCAS El Toro, and Tustin LTA, 3rd MAW, WTS-37 which later become WTS-373. Often TDY at Twently-Nine Palms out at the EAF supporting training for the weekend warriors doing their summer drill. Lots of equipment runs to North Island Air Station in Diego. Got out in 80 and head off to college.
Now compare infantry training at Camp Geiger to infantry training at Camp San Mateo or Camp Horno.
Like you said the Climate is World Famous in Dago Glad i was at MCRD !!! I Hate Bugs and Snakes !!!
I didn't know about sand fleas at PI until after boot camp in San Diego, glad I got the hills. Ooh-Rah!
Better quality training in San Diego. Great weather and no black out days like in P.I. The humps in SD also condition you better because of the hills.
Just graduated from Parris island. My husband graduated from San Diego. Semper Fi!
As a recruit I was in boot camp at San Diego and I was a Drill Instructor at Parris Island the only difference I noticed was sand fleas and heat humidity other then that it was the same.
Anyone that experienced boot camp in the 70s, whether it was PI or San Diego..... you'll remember it every day for life.
Amen to the last spoken lines in this video clip! Semper Fidelis, Marines!
I went to PI in74, I humped hills in calif for Dept of Forestry as a firefighter. But I Have to say those sand fleas I will never forget.
I was offered either coast when I enlisted in 75, from Kansas. It was January and I asked the recruiter, "Where's it warmer,?". "You want to go to San Diego then.". So I did. I figure wherever you went it was the most traumatic experience of your young life. If you survive that crucible you earn the title, then it doesn't matter where you did it, just that you did do it.
If you have a choice, choose San Diego. The weather is more stable and more conducive to being outdoors. San Diego winters are a low of 40-50 degrees F with a high of 60, Summers are a low of 50 and a high of 60-80 degrees F. The 55 degree F Pacific Ocean keeps the are temperatures stable. Go inland 10-20 miles, and add 10-20 degrees during Summer.
They forgot to mention San Diego Marines are issued board shorts, boogie boards, suntan lotion and Wayfarer sunglasses....................Hollywood!, thats how we roll!.......ha ha!
wavygr Dear god! That's worse than the time they served us undercooked Swordfish
Hahahahahaha! Someone else must've taken mine! Besides, in my time there, the boogie board hadn't been invented, although we made our own from 1/4" plywood, hand sanded, and a coat of shellack. I loved Santa Monica Beach. Our "skim boards" as we called them were heavy but fun to use. Also, a steel-wheeled roller skate with folded cardboard for a seat made for lots of sparks going downhill on asphalt streets especially as it got dark. You guessed it, their was the occasional seat fire. Life was simple and good.
Steak without Worcestershire sauce never killed anyone. I have eaten steaks without the sauce many of times, just as good.
Can’t wait
@wavygr 😂😂😂😂😂
I love our Marines . I wish I had been one and I don't have many regrets in my life. This was a big one. Semper Fi to you brave soldiers.
FYI, calling a Marine a "soldier" is an insult. Just say'n. But, thanks for the sentiment. Semper Fi.
@@5Ring I agree Marine. Sorry for the mistake. You guys are the damn best ever. My Dad lost a leg in Luzon. My Uncle did 6 landings in the Pacific. Another was a Korean Vet and ended up guarding President Eisenhower. Nothing but love. Former LEO. But not a Marine. Best friends Dad on Suribachi .
In the end they're all brothers sharing a common bond. Brothers 'till the end! They're all riflemen!!! I like the USMC tradition that they "Never leave their dead behind". God bless all the grunts everywhere WWII to Afghanistan. Dedicated to Capt. Bill Major and the Marines of Operation Medina October 1967, I Corps, South Vietnam, Hai lang forest.
My Dad graduated Paris Island and so did my Son. But my belief is once a Marine always a Marine! Hollywood or not, I have respect for them all!! Semper Fi, Do or Die!!!!
Let’s see, swatting sand fleas at P I, or watching the jets take off at Lindbergh Field.
Same training, better weather.
It’s really not tho...lmfao. I went to boot camp in MCRD San Diego in the summer and it was hotter than a mother fucker out there especially in Pendleton. The hiking alone is physically harder than anything done in PI...
PI keep comparing bug bites and humidity to hills🤣sd definitely is harder physically bc of that. but no doubt i wouldnt last w the fleas in pi
Did Boot camp in PI the swamps were intimidating and the sand fleas were omnipresent and maddening. Then I went to Pendleton for SOI then I started humping those hills and that was a whole new level of of WTF are my legs going through! I guess that means I cross trained both.
I'm a San Diego Marine. The hills are tough at first. But eventually it's no big deal. You get in incredible shape after a while, especially when you go to SOI or MCT out there and live on those things. My orders read V32 (3/2 Camp Lejeune). I arrived, checked in. When that was done in 2 days, I had an 18 mile hump the third day. And it was flat. That part was nice except it was mostly black top the entire fuckin thing, and humid as fuck which I wasn't used to anymore after being out west for 7 months. Nothings ever going to be nice and comfy and pleasant all the time. You'll have to endure and work through some kind of irritation no matter where you go. Hump'n in 95 F heat with 100% humidity in Lejeune my first time was pretty miserable, even though it was flat. And that's where I was introduced to chaffing LOL. That sucked LOL.
A Marine recruit is a Marine recruit, doesn’t make a difference where they go thru recruit training at. Much respect needs to be given to each of the recruit training depots. The DI’s are going to be in your face, no matter where you at. Talking about the DI’s a hell of a lot of respect goes out to them, The amount of hours they give, and the 200% effort, they put in, to try and make every recruit, part of the worlds best fighting force, a UNITED STATES MARINE. SEMPER FI.
100% guarantee you went thru MCRD San Dog...lol
@@raymondjohnson98 sorry to disappoint you, went to MCRDPI. 3RD Recruit Training Battalion, back in 89..
Only P.I. Marines say that.
Well said Adrian Semper Fi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great response by the Major. I am partial toward Parris Island.
Semper Fi my brothers and sisters, 50 years ago my adventure started at San Dog; Between the beatings and profanities I was so glad to finally graduate a basic MARINE, and enjoyed my four hours of base liberty; what i did not enjoy was my tour in NAM, But time passed, and i made it home in one piece. Our beloved CORPS, would not let me have the career path i wanted SO, I went across to the NAVY, and retired with 23 years of faithful Service. BUT know this, Once a Marine always a Marine, My heart belongs to the CORPS, But my sea legs to the NAVY 🤢🇺🇸👍
Ooh Rah!!!!
I took a few ass whoopings in the gear locker too! And wouldn't change a damn thing.
@@jamesjohnson3723ninjaPLEeeeASE!😄
Not Many guys can Handle, becoming a Marine... I think we have to be Just a Little Tougher than the Average Bear !!! And Maybe Just a Little Nuttier Also !!! Semper Fi !!! Im 75 years old Now, and i would Never Trade the Memories !!!
@@rogerhegemier8491 semper Fi brother if it weren't for Marines like you there wouldn't be Marines like me. Thank you! 1980 to 1988.
Class of 68 MCRDSD Semper Fi.
Thank you for your service sir.❤️
My dad was a D.I. in 68. MCRD SD. which platoon were you in?
We "Hollywood Marines" certainly appreciate the absence of the sand fleas during our training in San Diego, California. Those guys at Parris Island endured more than we did, getting through recruit training.
I was in San Diego. I think the training there isn't as harsh as P.I. because you are in the public eye more. my friends and family who were at P.I. thought San Diego was a little more kinder and gentler than P.I. it's all subjective. I was a navy medical officer assigned to the marines and I loved it. I wish I was young again so I could do it all over again. there isn't much call for a 70 yr old surgeon with the marines. I have a hard enough time keeping up with my goats. I developed a love for those boys that I can only explain thru tears....SEMPER FI.
Well when I joined 50 some years ago after we had our physicals took the oath, the. Gunny said I'm going to give you a break, the only one your going to get.There is a plane leaving for PI and SD same time, which one. There were 11 of us we took a vote decided on San Deigo because most of the guys had never been to California. So this is how these Illinois boys became Hollywood Marines.
Smart Move From what i heard, those Sand Fleas, and the Humidity, was Not for the Faint of Heart !!! It's been 58 years Now since i was at MCRD !!! Gee i miss every minute of it !!! Just Kidding !!!!!
@@rogerhegemier8491 Remembering PT after morning chow, " standing tall and looking good outa be in Hollywood". We didn't make any movies though.
My grandson is in San Diego. Next Tuesday is the Crucible. We are so proud of him. Oct 29 graduation and I will be there!
All I'm saying is that most females probably couldn't do the reaper.
Fantasy Football Browser Bowl League we used to call it something different: Mt. M...F...
They’ve been doing a hill at Ft Benning that’s a killer. Both male and female have done it.
almighty_salt it’s a joke compared to the Corps’ Reaper, otherwise known as Mt. MuthaFukka. Both male and female recruits have to do it, as well as the Crucible.
@@LouieNeira MT. M***** F***** is by S.O.I. The Reaper is closer to Edson Range
I went through san diego my buddy went to p.i., he went on to become a d.i. at san diego and told me the hills are killers. He said the difference is san diego you handwash your laundry yourself and the mountains. I told him, I noticed the way we salute is the only difference ,I see. P.I marines I noticed bring their elbow higher for a salute.
Parris Island for sure. Military bearing had to be top notch and boy was it hard not to flinch while getting bitten. I'd take the hills of MCRD San Diego over the sand fleas of PI any day.
P.I. The fleas and the humidity.
To me it doesn't matter we love all of our Military and thank you for your SERVICE...
P.I. = Humidity, sand fleas, FEELING OF COMPLETE ISOLATION
SD= Hills sometimes, feeling of not being isolated LOL!!
'Sometimes' that's cute. Plus, I don't recall SD having the female bootcamp curriculum 😉
Idk man. being able to see my house and my sister’s office window in downtown SD kinda fucked me up.
San Diego is hot as shit, it is in the south after all. Hot, dry, looks dry, freedom is right there- the temptation of seeing it creates strong marines.
I went thru MCRD in San Diego back in 1985 funny when we went on out PT run the navy would be on the other side of the fence doing their PT. Also seeing the airplanes flying out every night wondering when you would be on that freedom bird after recruit training, to go home for a few days before your next duty assignment. Still ended up with the sand fleas at Camp Lejeune NC.
East coast, West coast, it makes no difference. Marines are Marines. With that being said, sand fleas are the hell spawn and Parris Island is full of them.
Semper Fi
USMC(RET)
rdsii64
And we had turantuas and rattle snakes everywhere! Lol
@@jimgustafson7256 we had multiple poisonous snakes brown recluses and black widows in Paris island
@@kingkonvikzion11
Just sayin,; every place has it's issues. We're all just Marines! 😁
PI brother, ALL THE WAY!
@@scotrule6128 pu$$ies included? Is that what P.I. stands for?...kidding. Semper Fidelis.
I entered the Marine Corps from Chicago in October 1975. There were eleven of us recruits that shipped. Ten recruits went to MCRD San Diego and I went to MCRD Parris Island. Semper Fi!
Literally I went to MCRD Diego....we are the tougher group of Marines once we come out, I remember going through combat training, and doing the death runs and hikes with guys from Parris...all they did was slow us down and bitch the whole time about the mountains....that we had hiked up during boot. lol
lol both places have their advantages and disadvantages for Marines, but you can't judge like "Parris Island Marines" for a couple of Marines from there lol.
Both places make good Marines!
Please...San Diego has a safety mat underneath the stairway to heaven. If you fall off it at Parris Island you're dead, no mat.
Vincent parris island marines judge us Hollywood boys for less. “tHe SaNd fLeAs!”
Crediblesea 007 that’s 🧢
Parris Island is no joke. Went their for basic leadership training in high school and it was definitely a challenge. The humidity and sand fleas kill you the most. Gotta love being in SC
Haha I'm from San Diego ! And shit we do have fucking hills every where! Dam too bad I'm going to Perris Island but Marines are Marines no matter where .
when you get to Parris Island good luck in the journey earning the title Marine and hopefully one of these days I'll enlist
J Guzman what's ur rank right now ?
Jesus Gutierrez he's dead
you wouldn't be able to handle the hills. you'd get medically dropped if you don't flat out quit. hopefully you'll do the spelling for marines mci very soon.
The Corps is looking into full integration of recruit training as per the DOD mandate... so that may change soon
Best wishes and Semper fi. I went to San Diego in 1978 for bootcamp and later on I had the priviledge to serve as a Drilll Instructor at Parris Island in 1984-86. Each coast had different weather but the training is the same and challenging on both sides. my advice,never fall out of a run and never quit. You'll do fine.
Marines are Marines and it makes no difference where they were trained. If you know what it takes to be a Marine you will understand.
True, Semper Fidelis!
Only P.I. Marines say that.
I was drafted into the Marines at AFEES in Chicago. I was sent to San Diego for boot camp. That disburses two rumors. First, I was drafted into the Marines at AFEES in Chicago. So during Vietnam the Marines did draft. Second, I was drafted east of the Mississipi, and was sent to SanDiego for my boot, which proves they do not always send recruits east of the Mississipi to Parris Island. USMC 1969-1971
My dad graduated from PI in 54, I graduated from San Diego in 94. The interesting thing is that my dad's tie bar graduated with me. It was black, so he had to get special permission for me to be out of uniform. My dad also wore his Marine Alphas to my graduation, complete with his E-4 sgt stripes. He got a few "you need a haircut Marine" comments. He was 61
Maybe my daughter will walk it across PI again in another 10 years.
So true, so true! I'm glad there are some decent people like yourself in your military. Bless you!
No DI is going to be “EASIER” on a recruit because they’re in PI or MCRD! Every “HAT” is going to TRAIN them to the best of their ability!! Semper Fi
The best of the best - God bless the marines.
San Diego has hills lmao. It has mountains and for those of us there is one in particular. Mount MFer.
I went to San Diego as a 17 year old in 1967 and it was tough. However, I agree with Maj. Moore - the Marine Corps makes tough Marines !!
It's not about where you earn the title, it's about what you do to contribute to the legend that is United States Marine.
I am from New Jersey , I entered the Corps June 1979 , a few of us were sent to MCRD San Diego , with no explaination.
“So who makes tougher Marines?”
“Yes...”
Went to MCRD San Diego, visited Parris Island. I talked to a 1stSgt in PI who trained recruits in both. They get the same training regardless, he said the only difference is the weather. The recruits in both coast got their ow way of learning but the end result is a Marine. Therefore I don’t care what coast you went to. Im putting in a package to become a Drill Instructor in Parris Island because it’ll be a change for me. Wish me luck.
*I have done both*
I've been stationed on both coasts as an infantryman.
East Coast: Very old school, technically proficient, and very stringent. The swamps/woods suck and so does the cold.
West Coast: Physically WAY more demanding, but way more laid back. There's a reason why ITB on the West Coast is shared with Recon. West Coast Marines are almost always physically stronger. Also, SoCal rubs off on Marines here. Even down in Coronado during boat school/scout swimmer school its more laid back.
Generally, West Coast Marines are more mature as you are EXPECTED to be very good at your job and physically sound. On the East, its more baby fuck fuck games and micromanagement.
That being said command is a big influencer as well.
Cheers
MCRD is tougher because of the hills we climb and the planes we chase when we decide to look at them.
MCRD San Diego is parked at the end of Lindberg field, and flat! They must be bused up to Pendleton to get the hills involved.
"What do I do in my free time? MCI's, of course."
Enjoy freedom
MetalSkeleton56 terminal boot
Your free time ? Your time is not your's, it belongs to the Corps! My free time, I wrote letters if my boots were polished, my uniform for the next day was squared away. Got to watch a movie on Easter Sunday afternoon after Church 1977 in the barracks, "Sands of Iwo Jima". God bless Sargent Striker, and God bless Chesty Puller ( witch my uncle was in 1/7 on the canal WWII). So Semper Fi, and get it done.
Golf Co., 2/7 1st Mar Div. 1977-1980
You get sent whichever is the closest coast. I grew up in california. Most marines went to San Diego. If you grew up in Florida, you go to Parris Island.
Once I get this tattoo removed from my arm, I will be going to Parris Island. I'm excited and nervous lol
Parris Island trained here, January 68. I knew I could miss the skeeters and sand fleas in the Winter.
The biggest difference I discovered about Parris Island vs San Diego graduates: If you ask a Marine where they went to boot camp and they reply, "MCRD" - They went to San Diego. A Parris Island Marine will simply say, "Parris Island."
Hey San Diego guys - They are BOTH MCRD - Marine Corps Recruit Depot.
In the end - WE ARE ALL MARINES! Semper Fi brothers and sisters!
BTW: Parris Island Marine here.
Brothers forever! It doesn't matter where we had our basic training! Semper Fi!
Was told the bugs are worse in Paris Island, did my Army basic at Jackson in So.Carolina, fleas were so freaking bad, skeeter's as well
David Wadsworth fucking hate flea's
Skeeters lll
sand fleas would bite the living shit out of you but those bastards were barely visible but it felt like a dog was biting on you.the dis would tell us to stand still because they gotta eat too
They should also interview Marines who went to Parris Island and San Diego during the 1940 and 1950, compared to Marines who went to either base more recently. My dad went to Parris Island at the age of 17 in August of 1950. A guy broke his arm just getting off of the bus. It's hotter than the gates of hell there, and humid. You don't leave duiring training, no family visits, even during graduation, no PX visits. My dad went to the PX his last day to buy a suitcase. Boots were punished physically and mentally. Even back then they referred to the San Diego Marines as Hollywood Marines. My dad did go to San Diego for radio school and said the weather was perfect, it was the nicest place he had ever been. He also went to Pickle Meadow for cold weather training before shipping out to Korea.
SEMPER FI!! 100% PARRIS ISLAND...A LITTLE PIECE OF HEAVEN!! OOORAH!!
Both coasts have equal challenges, the challenges are simply different forms. The real question is which company is the hardest. Killer kilo for life!
Only P.I. Marines say that.
“Competitive and fun.” Not how I remember.
Grad Parris Island in 89. Did MCT and SOI at Gieger. That was all roughly 21 weeks of training the last 8 being all Infantry....into the Fleet . Thought I knew my s... But it was like going from collage ball to the NFL. Thats when school really began. 2/2nd Marines! Second to none. Semper Fi!
Parris island
MCRD San Diego is where it's at. Nice weather, no bugs...
How can a state like California which has the worst guns in america have a marine boot camp
Heinrich Himmler true
Because the marine corps is part of the federal government and california is a state government
Jimmy Figueroa you're missing the point. Marines are trained to be a marksman with a rifle and you barely can ever own a gun in cali
Nope, they keep that shit there so when California decides to feel a little independent, they send the next fresh batch of recruits to the liberal fair
Carrying a gun does not make you safer... California houses the most elite warriors in our military. Whether you take a bike ride by Coronado and see the Navy Seals train or visit the beach and see the U.S. Marines holding maneuvering drills. You can also look up at the sky and catch an F-35 flyover. The world's elite are everywhere... no need for John Doe to carry a semi just for show.
If you are leagally immigrating you would have no problem trying to join the Marine Corps. I say trying because just because you apply does not mean you get to head to boot camp. Best advise I can give you is contact the nearest Counselate or the Embassy in Canbaerra and make an appointment with a Counsular Officer. You can also visit canberra dot usembassy dot gov and uscis dot gov to search immigration requirements. Your greatest hurdle at the moment is immigration not recruiting.
60 days till parris island
lauren Evanovich sucks to suck, have fun
update
Did you make it?
Hahahaha
Wash out?
The difference is the Humidity, thats it. If you want to train in a Suana, then PI it is. If you want to train in spectacular weather then San Diego it is.
Great last answer #Oorah
oh shut the fuck up
What's wrong? Couldn't join the Marines?
From a 20 year army veteran thanks Marines
I honor my grandpa he was in the marine Corp also he died of cancer and he had slot of flashback
BlueLivesMatter Supporter: You come from good stock to honor your grandpa. He obviously left a strong impression upon you and it comes through loud and clear. I'm sure your grandpa was as good a person as you are.
I thank him for his service and contribution to the safety of civilians and Americas freedom. But he is in a better place.
Gate duty in Heaven...
The biggest difference is the geographic location and climate. In San Diego the weather is good year round but more hills to climb. In Parris Island you have to deal with the swamps, bugs, high humidity and sometimes it gets cold. West Coast the best coast!
I'll take hills over a swamp any day.
Marine Corps hills are harder
WORD 10-4 I copy that DEVIL DOG I'll also take a Nice Beach with G string Bikini m Bitches on it over a Swamp Any given Sunday...