Update alert! We have updated the JL / Gladiator dual battery tray to be able to fit ALL brands of group 25 sized batteries, rather than just the Odyssey brand. See our blog post for more details - www.genesisoffroad.com/newtraydesigns
Thank you for the video. I have no prior experience working on vehicles and just successfully installed your system in my JL. I carefully followed this video as well as the one by Jeep Generation. I was able to do it thanks to these videos. With your level of experience, I'm sure it never entered your mind, but the parts where you fast forward were some of the places I needed to see the details. I was able to go back-and-forth, freezing the video to see what I needed, but you might consider not speeding up future videos. Experienced viewers can always skip ahead if they are bored.
Great video. Just watched it today and followed it step by step to install mine on my JLUR and everything went flawlessly. Possibly the best instructional video made.
I recently purchased and installed this system (Gen 3) in my 2021 Gladiator Rubicon using this video as a guide. The starter was dragging and required a jump to start the vehicle, despite both brand new Odyssey batteries reading 12.6V. There are two wires that are “taped off” during the install video. The AUX battery primary ground at 15m 05s and the extra ground wire at 19m 15s. Reconnecting the extra ground resolved my issue. As a result, I ended up cutting the original L shaped terminal off of the AUX ground and extended the AUX to attach to the factory negative terminal, just to return the electrical system to as close to original as possible. Now everything works as it originally did. So far, I am very pleased with the system and how it works. I hope this helps anyone else experiencing a similar issue.
Thank you for the feedback! The change with the factory ground wire was discussed in our new installation video for our new Gen 3 kits here - th-cam.com/video/PZXSOqsVljQ/w-d-xo.html
Glad to see the JL guys get hooked up like you took care of us with JKs! With the Genesis dual battery kit and dual sPods, I instantly became an electrical genius. Awesome work!
Great step by step install video. When you first look under the hood, you think, how am I going to fit two large batteries in here. You guys got it down. Great looking set up.
Hey Shane, I watched and then purchased the Dual Kit with the batteries for my 2018 Rubicon JL. Watched two more times and just completed the install in about 2.5 hours. A piece of cake. I did find out that I can disable my Start/Stop on the Rubicon by disconnecting the single wire terminal on the Negative terminal. Message comes up that the Start/Stop needs checked out.This was my first mod as a Warn Winch is next. I will put these batteries to the test. Kept the stock batteries as I will configure those as needed in my Overland MODS. You get 5 Stars on the instructional video. The connectors on the fuse box took a little more effort to remove than your video.
Man, I used your video to access the boot to pass a constant hot to supply power for a 2 way radio. I watched the video one time and was able to complete the removal and reinstall of the components on a Gladiator. Thank you. While this is a long process for what I needed to accomplish, it achieved the requirements for routing the wire to the spec on the install.
Word to the WISE. Be sure to zip tie your alternator cable to something between the fuse box and the aux battery. I didn't and eventually ( just recently on a trip to the middle of Mojave) the wire vibrated far enough down and ended up resting on the exhaust manifold, where the insulation melted and then shorted the alternator to the exhaust, and then CAUGHT FIRE. Always carry a fire extinguisher. it saved my Jeep. When Shane says tuck it down there ... DONT, there is enough slack to run it above everything.
This is an awesome kit, which will be used to power my ARB Fridge while camping. I really like the fact that you are removing that Motorcycle Battery (let's call it what it really is) from the system. Here in Arizona, batteries do not last long due to the heat, and I would not want to go through any process of losing that AUX/ESS battery while offroad, or even replacing it on a frequent basis. I'd much rather deal with batteries that are easy to get to, and easy to replace. Looking forward to installing this in a few days on my JL.
If you install this kit and your Jeep doesn't start, try re-attaching the ground cable for the auxiliary battery. My 2021 Gladiator Sport needed the aux battery's factory ground cable reconnected to start. After 4 hours of trying to figure it out, that was what it was. Works fine now.
Thanks for the tip. We recently learned that Jeep made a change to the '21 models. The video shows a ground cable going directly from the big battery's ground to the little battery's ground, and that cable is no longer needed so it gets taped up and moved out of the way. On the '21+ models, the ground from the big battery goes to a vehicle ground connection, not to the little battery's ground. Therefore, leaving it disconnected as shown in the video kills ground to the vehicle. If your engine doesn't start after installing the kit, just reconnect that ground wire onto the factory negative post clamp.
I love my genisis kit, it has served me well for a couple years, and Shane is great people. just be sure if you are running your vehicle hard, to make your vehicle hard! : disclaimer from my previous comment...
Great looking kit. Well done video. I did learn, after scrolling way down the comments, that the second battery can be used to self jump start with the press of a button. As an overlander who's seen batteries fail on washboard roads in the remotest of places (such as in the Arctic), that's the most important feature of dual batteries for me. Thanks for the info, video and kit; this will be a future mod for me in my Gladiator!
One of the best if not thee best install video I have ever watched and I've watched a few. Good Job. I had just given up on the idea of having two batteries on my JL.
@@R0B74 No, the H6 won't work for a couple reasons - the posts are in the wrong orientation so the factory wires won't line up properly, and also it is about 1.5" too long, so it will not fit between the fender and the engine.
I just install mine and at first I was a little bit afraid but finally with this really well made video everything was fine! Thanks for this amazing product! 🤙🏼
That’s a very well detailed install video! My Jeep group has mention this setup before and was curious if there was an install video. Looking forward to getting this in the near term future.
Yes. The positive cable from the little battery has to be brought up and connected to the big battery. The vehicle will not start without it. This is due to the controls of the auto start/stop system. The video shows a ground cable going directly from the big battery's ground to the little battery's ground, and that cable is no longer needed so it gets taped up and moved out of the way. We recently learned that Jeep made a change to the '21 models. On the '21+ models, the ground from the big battery goes to a vehicle ground connection, not to the little battery's ground. Therefore, leaving it disconnected as shown in the video kills ground to the vehicle. If your engine doesn't start after installing the kit, just reconnect that ground wire onto the factory negative post clamp.
I have a few issues here. 1st - the JL has dual batteries stock (as you noted, showed, and removed) and they are tied together 99% of the time, even when in off mode. if those battery terminals touch or even the + touches ground after removing them from the main battery, then you will blow a expensive fuse up. You must separate and tape the - cables from the main batt terminal first thing to separate the batteries and work safely. You got really close to causing a short in the beginning of your video. You could also remove a couple of more aux + cables and the ess relay by simply building a jumper cable from n1 to n3. Otherwise... its a good looking piece. good job on fitting those in there so cleanly.
Once the battery negative and positive cables are removed from the battery, nothing is going to short out because there is no current flowing. We considered including a short jumper cable to connect the 2 points on the fuse box, but you'd still have the factory aux battery positive cable dangling around, so it was easier to just move it up to the cranking battery.
This looks like a great mod. Coming from a VW Camper with a dual battery set up, it only makes sense to do this with an adventure rig like the JL and JT. In a perfect world, things like interior lights, USB ports, radio, etc. would be nice to be able to run off the aux battery, or, as I did in my vanagon, have a switch to be able to decide which battery they run off of. Of course the wiring scheme in an 85 Vanagon is far more simple than a 2020 Gladiator. Your work looks top notch. One question though, do you know if this mod invalidates any kind of warranty issue that would be electrical in nature? While the design and install looks straightforward, you're still modifying the electrical system.
Thanks! Yeah, no more cutting the air box mount off, no evap solenoid to relocate, and easier to get the plastic tray out! The extra wiring can look intimidating, but as long as you label the wires, there's nothing to worry about!
The fuse box must remain on the cranking battery. If you move the fuse box to the aux battery, then when the isolator has the batteries separated, the fuse box will not be able to communicate with the starter and alternator, so the engine won't start. All your factory systems must stay on the cranking battery. Then you'll put all your aftermarket wiring onto our bus bars so that those devices will not drain down your cranking battery.
Excellent. Why doesn't Jeep manufacture all JL's with this better battery system? The new JL we just purchased has twice failed to start and we think the aux battery is too blame. Taking it back to the dealer on Monday!
easy way to do a quick check without tools is to push the ignition switch to on position without starting. pull up the off road pages looks at guages if your below 12V more than likely the AUX battery is going bad..
Had mine installed at a shop, they told me that the start stop system would no longer function? If this true? Now it just has the a with the circle on my screen above the fuel gage, and my start stop doesn’t work?
There is a reason he doesnt answer this question than has been asked over and over. Dishonest company. I had this system in my JK, but wont put it in mt 21 jlur.
nicely done. That must've taken a while to make it all work with so much going on. On my list for upgrades. I run a fridge full time and always worry about killing my battery
Thanks Richard! Yeah it's no fun to wake up to a warm fridge and a dead battery! Just remember your factory 12v outlets in the back will always run from the cranking battery. We make a dedicated circuit for powering your fridge from the accessory battery. You can see that on our website under the Power Outlets category.
Dealer told me if I do this the warranty is not invalidated. However, any electrical issues will require the old setup is installed for them to cover it.
Are there additional changes that would need to be made in order to continue to utilize the factory 4 Auxiliary switches + rear cargo 12v outlet? Or does everything have to directly need to be routed to that battery? Thanks!
Nice. You get rid of that little battery for the install. By getting rid of it does that mean the start stop system is disabled? Or does it run off the 2nd battery? since it was used to restart the car from a stop.
Frank Simpson Our system does not affect the start stop system. We will be doing another video that goes deep in the weeds on how the start/stop system works.
Shane: Great video! I plan on purchasing the JL Dual Battery Kit this week for my 2018 Rubicon Unlimited. A couple of questions: 1. The two wires you wrapped with electrical tape (and didn't use at all in the final installation)...what's the name of each wire? 2. If I were to give someone a jump...what battery terminals would I connect the cables to? 3. The 12 volt connector in the back of my jeep currently runs off of the cranking battery. Is there a way to disconnect it under the hood and connect it to accessory battery or do I have to purchase a separate 12 volt power outlet and run it to the Genesis accessory myself? Thanks in advance. I really appreciate you taking the time to video the installation. Thanks again. GRan
The wire ends that get wrapped with electrical tape are the 2 ends of the same wire - it's a straight wire from the negative of the small battery to the negative of the big battery. This one is not needed with our kit. Our kit comes with a new heavy duty wire to link the 2 negatives together. To jump start yourself or someone else, you can connect to the factory positive wire (on the cranking battery) and the factory negative wire (on the aux battery). The factory 12v outlet runs through the factory fuse box, so it would be very difficult to reroute it. We make a new dedicated wire harness for adding an accessory power outlet that will run from the second battery. You can see that under the 'Power Outlets' category on our website. Thanks!
There's a very wide variety of reasons for that message to come up, even in a stock vehicle. Give us a call and we'll be glad to talk about it with you.
We don't see enough of an advantage of keeping the small aux battery to justify the extra complexity. We recently confirmed the Rugged Ridge snorkel and the River Raider snorkel will work with our kit which is great news!
This is really great, looks like this will be on the future plan build out. How much additional room is now obtained above the fuse box. Would it be enough to place the ARB Twin Compressor?
We drop the fuse box down several inches in order to try to free up some space for other things since space is so limited under the hood. The ARB twin compressor is far too wide to fit between the firewall and the batteries though. We are hoping an ARB single compressor may fit there, but haven't had an opportunity to measure for it yet.
@@GenesisOffroad Thank you for the follow up, I like what you guys did here, it would have been the really beyond awesome if we could squeeze in the ARB
@@grein46087 I agree! I have an ARB twin compressor myself that I'm trying to get mounted. Jeep made everything so cramped under the hood! Hopefully we can figure something out!
Taking the negative terminal off first will help prevent you from accidentally throwing sparks when you're removing the positive terminal, since it kills the ground to the whole vehicle. But either way is technically fine. Just be careful that's all.
Hey! Wow great video…just installed on my JL. I’m struggling with the amount of jiggle I still have with the two group 25 odyssey batteries. After you installed the top tray and bolted everything down, are you still able to move the batteries at all? I’m finding a little bit of wiggle with the 2 batteries. This seems not ideal as with constant off-roading that this will eventually cause damage.
We have seen a few instances of this with Odyssey batteries. After discussing with them, we believe the issue is with the top lid on the battery itself. At the factory, the top lid piece gets pressed onto the body of the battery by a robot, and the exact force used can vary slightly. This means the lid sometimes sits a little high, and sometimes it is seated further down. Either way is not really a problem for the battery, but it can lead to it being loose in our tray. In this case, the easiest solution is to just put some sort of a space under our lid that holds down the batteries. Maybe a couple paint stir sticks, or a thin sheet of plastic or rubber. We will look into adjusting the height of the sides of our trays to compensate for this in the future, but we don't want to go too low with our tray because we don't want folks over tightening the top lid and squishing the battery. I hope this info helps! -Shane
@@GenesisOffroad awesome, makes sense. I used a small ratchet strap to wrap around the battery box and batteries. Seems to work pretty good and is rock solid. You see any issues there?
You can connect your winch cables to the tall center studs on our power and ground bus bars. The winch will draw from both batteries at the same time to spread the demand across both batteries. If the winch sucks the batteries down low, then our isolator will separate the batteries and the winch will continue to work from the aux battery only, in order to protect your cranking battery from getting too low.
if you wire it to the hubs, as suggested, all will work well. fyi, if winching, you should always have the engine idling. this bumps the working voltage up higher, which is better for the winch, and couples both batteries, so it's better for the batteries. you can pull 400 amps with a large winch, and the alternator will only do about a quarter of that. the rest comes from both batteries.
Yes, the start/stop system continues to work. In the stock configuration, when the engine stops, all your electronics run from the tiny second battery under the fuse box. Once the engine restarts, it is starting from the full sized battery. With our system, when the engine stops, all your electronics are running from both full size batteries since they are linked together, and the engine restarts using the cranking amps of both batteries. It may be subjective, but it feels like the engine restarts faster and smoother since you're using 2 full size batteries. Hope this helps!
You can connect jumper cables to your factory positive wire on the cranking battery and the factory negative wire on the aux battery. This will give you the shortest path to your alternator and starter.
At 15:08 you wrap a factory negative and tuck it away. Is this the negative wire to the Aux battery and if so how hard to just completely remove? then at 18:42 another ground going to the AUX battery is tucked away. are these both ends of the same wire? where do each of these terminate?
The 18:42 was the positive terminal that went to the old aux battery. And yes the neg wire at 15:08 was the neg for the old aux battery. Not sure about removing. Would think you can but it’s probably a nightmare getting to it maybe.
@@skipdippity now I am confused. I thought the positive from the aux went to the positive on the new second battery to power the system. Ground is not needed. What did you have backwards?
@@Lammons1960 I had the 18:42 backward is what I meant. It was the negative for the old auxiliary battery. (Not positive) The one he taped at 15:08 was the original neg on the aux batt. I believe the 18:42 was the other end of that cable (15:08) going to the main original batt. He takes it off of the ‘multi’ terminal from the original main batt. Hopefully that makes sense. The 15:08 and 18:42 were the same cable. One end to aux and the other end to main. Obvious both negative. Hope that helps..lol
That wire connected the big battery's negative post to the tiny battery's negative post. We eliminate the tiny battery and replace it with a second full size battery. Our kit comes with a new heavy duty wire that links the 2 big batteries' negative posts together, so that makes the factory wire redundant and unnecessary.
@@GenesisOffroad For the 2021 Gladiator Rubicon I had to use the ground on the main bar that you took off or I had no power. That ground was on a loop. So I'm told.
Hi Shane, I like your videos and the dual battery system. I have one in my 2019 JLU Europe version, and I don’t know if it’s working like it should. Everytime I turn off the Engine, a few hours later the voltage of the cranking battery is at 12.4v. Without using electricity. The Aux voltage still has 12,8-12,9v. What could be the reason for this?
Hi Rob, no worries, it sounds like you just need to put a charger on the cranking battery to top it off. AGM batteries are considered fully charged at about 12.8v, so 12.4 isn't too low to be a concern. Here's a video that shows how to connect a battery charger to our system. th-cam.com/video/BxEV01_4I_s/w-d-xo.html
How does the overall size compare to a group 65 battery? I would like to dual battery my 04 WJ Jeep, it has a group 65 stock, looks like this could be put in its place with some fabbing.
If I wanted to eliminate the aux battery couldnt I just connect the positive aux cable to positive main battery cable and remove the aux ground cable and completly do away with aux battery?
@@GenesisOffroad Thank you for reply. Ive been wanting to do that when aux goes bad. But looks like im getting the Genesis dual batt system. Merry Christmas too me!
@@GenesisOffroad Good deal. I think the Genesis is the best system ive ever saw. I Probably wont wait til Christmas... I dont have a lot of patience. Thank you for youre response. Ill update you after the install.
Just installed on my 2019 JL Rubicon. Too bad I can't attach a picture to emphasize how extreme the factory battery mismatch is. Factory cranking battery is at least three times the size of the little auxiliary battery Having worked as an ASE diesel mechanic for about 18 years I can testify to the engineering mistake that is designed into the factory Jeep Wrangler JL battery system. It was doomed to failure on the drawing board and I think they knew it and hoped it could hold up at least beyond warranty. Well it doesn't. My ESS system stopped working after just 2.5 years. Verified the issue is the little auxiliary battery. Doesn't hold a charge and draws down the main cranking battery. All of this is just my personal experience and opinion of course.
No worries with the warranty. Our system does not change any factory systems, and the rest of the vehicle does not know anything about our system. We actually have numerous new Jeep dealerships that install our kits on new vehicles for their customers.
Serious question. That kit when installed looks like it makes checking the oil a nightmare. It seems to bury the dipstick. Is this just me or is this the price you pay to install the kit.
Absolutely! Most people want to use solar panels to be able to run their accessories for as long as possible with the engine off. You can connect the solar charge controller directly to our power and ground bus bars. The solar charge will go into your aux battery first to replace the power used by your accessories. As long as the panel is big enough to keep up with the demand and charge up the battery, then our smart isolator will link them together, and the solar will flow over to the cranking battery as well.
@@GenesisOffroad Awesome Thanks! I have your JL dual battery system, I used this youtube video for my install and everything went perfctly. I am thinking of getting the display thanks again for the help
Hi Shane. Is it possible to buy this kit in Europe? I'm from Portugal and i own a 2019 JL Sahara (2.2 Diesel model). If so, from where may i order it? Thanks for this great video.
We have not had an opportunity to test this kit with the European diesel model yet. If your battery tray looks like the one in the video, then it should work fine. We ship to Europe all the time, our website will give you some shipping rate options.
@@GenesisOffroad I also have this 2.2 turbo diesel engine. I'm also interested in your awesome kit, but the 2.2 Diesel engine has hoses (flexible and others in metal) that run down between the engine area and the battery area. Considering the total price of the kit + two batteries, would it be possible to have a confirmation of the compatibility with our 2.2 Diesel (sold in Europe and Australia among others). Thank you for your help.
They are not at all interested in making the slightest effort for this engine. The only answer, "you can order a kit and if that won't send it back" ... But yes, plus the huge shipping costs to pay for the outward and return trip. It's a piece of crap. Chances are it will work, but without measures (there's nothing on their website) it's impossible to say for sure. I gave up the idea of making this change, no help from them.
Stephane B The problem is that we do not have access to that vehicle and engine combination here in the USA. We had the same issue with the JK kit. We had a customer in Europe who was willing to do a test fit of the JK kit into the European diesel version and it fit flawlessly. It’s not that we don’t want to support your vehicle, it’s just that I cannot tell you if it will fit or not without someone doing the first installation.
I have a pickup truck want to do dual batteries it is set up for dual battery system but one battery is on the driver side and the other battery Trey is on the passenger side it's about 4 ft 5 ft away you have a kit that will fit it
Yes, we do have a solution for you. We have a universal single battery kit that has all the same features as our JL kit, just squished down to fit on top of one battery. This kit allows you to remotely mount the second battery, then you'll run a power and ground wire back over to the other battery to tie it into our system. Here's a link to more info - www.genesisoffroad.com/Single-Battery-Kit-p/153-stbk.htm
The battery tray is designed to hold 2 Group 25 sized batteries. It does not have any provisions for holding the original battery securely in place. If you wanted to do that, you would need to fab a way to hold it without bouncing around, but there's really no benefit to doing that. Our recommendation would be to wait until you're able to do both batteries at the same time.
@@GenesisOffroad ive just checked my engine bay. It might not work unfortunately. Battery on the left instead of the right. Fusebox front instead of back.
Antalan LawGroup If your cranking battery is too low to start the engine, you can press the boost button. This will manually reconnect the batteries so you can use the power in the second battery to help start the engine. If that doesn’t work, then you can also connect jumper cables to the factory positive wire (on the cranking battery) and the factory negative wire (on the second battery). This gives you the most direct path to your starter and alternator for jumping yourself or someone else.
There is an auxiliary 12v power port in the back of the jeep that is powering my fridge...will that be running off the crank battery? If so how would I correct this so I can run the fridge off of the auxiliary battery?
Yes, all the factory circuits including the 12v outlet in the back run from the cranking battery. We make a kit that allows you to install a new 12v outlet that can be wired up to the power and ground bus so that the fridge can run from the aux battery and not drain your main battery. Here's a link to that kit - www.genesisoffroad.com/12vpoweroutlet-p/171-12v.htm
No, it does not void your warranty. In fact, we have many new Jeep dealerships across the country that install our kits into new vehicles for their customers.
Im about to choose between a redarc dual battery system (with all the manager 30 stuff ) and this dual battery system; what advantages you believe this system has vs the redarc? Regards! Gladiator Rubicon 2022
The Redarc products can work with our dual battery system. They are complimentary products, not competing products. We give you easy to install tray for adding extra battery capacity, it connects them together in parallel to spread your demand across two batteries, gives protection for your cranking battery, easy access to connect accessories that need battery power, and the ability to jump start yourself if the cranking battery is low. The Manager 30 gives you several additional features. It’s an on-board battery charger, a shore power hookup charger, a solar charge controller, and other cool features.
Hello ! Nice to meet you. thank you for your dual battery settlement. Here is Korea... My car is JL rucicom (2021). Sorry but... may I ask you a question about auxiliary battery? The main battery I am using is Iron phosphate battery(100Amh 1300cca). so, I would like to use only the main battery after removing the auxiliary battery. I would like to know if it is okay to connect directly the plus and negative terminals of the auxiliary battery to the main battery. Please.. May I wait for your answer? Thank you so so much!!!
Yes, you can remove the small aux battery and just move its positive wire up and connect it to the big battery's positive post. The ground wire from the small battery will no longer be needed. You can simply wrap it with electrical tape and leave it disconnected.
@@GenesisOffroad Thank you very much for your VERY KINDNESS. You have solved the problem we have been troubled by the second battery in Korean's JL dirvers. I would like to ask about your answer again NOT to make big mistake. Could you check my following note? 1. Remove the positive terminal from the small aux battery. 2. Connect it to the MAIN battery's positive post. 3. Remove the ground wire ( the negative terminal ) from the small aux battery. 4. Wrap it with electrical tape and leave it DISCONNECTED. Am I right? thank you so much.
On my install, my Jeep 2019 JL Wrangler Rubicon will, seemingly at random, not start. So I go to the button and push it, it combines the two batteries and it starts fine (you should point out that great feature btw). However, I do not understand why it seems to drain randomly and not start. I am not using any of the aux that would draw power. Most of the time it works. The batteries are only 1 year old, should I replace the batteries? Also, when it is cold out they seem to drain very quickly and I have to use the combine button. Not sure what to think of the batteries. I have the genesis extreme 400 pci. Any ideas please help.
There can be a wide variety of reasons for your battery to be low. Whatever the case may be, that's why you have the boost button there to jump start yourself from the second battery. If you need some troubleshooting help, feel free to give us a call.
The factory switches get their power through the fuse box, which is hard wired straight to the cranking battery. All of your factory circuits will always run from the cranking battery. Any devices you connect to the power & ground bus bars on our system will run from the second battery and won't drain down your cranking battery. Therefore, I'd recommend using those factory switches only for devices that you plan to use while the engine is running.
We don't have a TJ specific kit, but you could use one of our universal kits. If you have a spot to mount one more battery, you could use our universal single battery kit, and just run a couple wires to the stock battery location to tie it into our system. This gives you a remotely mounted dual battery system with all the same features. You can see more details including dimensions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/Single-Battery-Kit-p/153-stbk.htm
Sorry if this is a stupid question, what's the size of the socket for the bracket that holds the battery in? I've gone through my socket set and nothing seems to fit.
No. Our system simply gives you extra battery capacity. The rest of the vehicle's electrical system doesn't know anything about our system. More info about that topic here - th-cam.com/video/tRe2Mjps0sg/w-d-xo.html
Batteries are sold separately. We offer the Odyssey Performance Series ODP-AGM25 and the Full Throttle FT750-25 through our website if you'd like everything dropped off at your doorstep. www.genesisoffroad.com/batteries.html
The factory aux switches are powered through the fuse box, which gets its power from the cranking battery all the time. It may be possible to dig into the wiring to figure out how to move them over to the aux batteries, but we haven't tried to do that yet. On my JL, I use those factory switches for devices that I do not plan to run with the engine off. For anything other devices that need power with the engine off, you would need to connect those to our power & ground bus bars, or run an aftermarket fuse box and switch panel such as an sPOD.
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Update alert! We have updated the JL / Gladiator dual battery tray to be able to fit ALL brands of group 25 sized batteries, rather than just the Odyssey brand. See our blog post for more details - www.genesisoffroad.com/newtraydesigns
Thank you for not doing a 10 minute vlog with another 10 minutes of b-roll before even talking about the point of the video ❤️❤️
No problem 😊
I gotta say this video was one of the most “to the point” videos I have seen. Very detailed. Good job
Thank you!!
Thank you for the video. I have no prior experience working on vehicles and just successfully installed your system in my JL. I carefully followed this video as well as the one by Jeep Generation. I was able to do it thanks to these videos. With your level of experience, I'm sure it never entered your mind, but the parts where you fast forward were some of the places I needed to see the details. I was able to go back-and-forth, freezing the video to see what I needed, but you might consider not speeding up future videos. Experienced viewers can always skip ahead if they are bored.
G E Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it!
Great video. Just watched it today and followed it step by step to install mine on my JLUR and everything went flawlessly. Possibly the best instructional video made.
Hunter Cooper Thank you for the kind words! Glad to hear it worked out well!
That last minute or two explaining how things work finally cleared up the confusion I've had about just who get's what power. Very helpful. cheers
I recently purchased and installed this system (Gen 3) in my 2021 Gladiator Rubicon using this video as a guide. The starter was dragging and required a jump to start the vehicle, despite both brand new Odyssey batteries reading 12.6V. There are two wires that are “taped off” during the install video. The AUX battery primary ground at 15m 05s and the extra ground wire at 19m 15s. Reconnecting the extra ground resolved my issue. As a result, I ended up cutting the original L shaped terminal off of the AUX ground and extended the AUX to attach to the factory negative terminal, just to return the electrical system to as close to original as possible. Now everything works as it originally did.
So far, I am very pleased with the system and how it works. I hope this helps anyone else experiencing a similar issue.
Thank you for the feedback! The change with the factory ground wire was discussed in our new installation video for our new Gen 3 kits here - th-cam.com/video/PZXSOqsVljQ/w-d-xo.html
Glad to see the JL guys get hooked up like you took care of us with JKs! With the Genesis dual battery kit and dual sPods, I instantly became an electrical genius. Awesome work!
No need to tell everyone it comes completely pre-wired out of the box. Just pop the hood, stand back, and smile! :)
Absolutely one of the BEST install video's I've ever watched!!! Brilliant sir!!! Thank You!!!
Don't thank me for watching your video, thank YOU for making such a well developed and painless instruction video.
That was definitely a well done install video, perhaps the best I’ve seen.
RB inatorr Wow thank you very much!
Great step by step install video. When you first look under the hood, you think, how am I going to fit two large batteries in here. You guys got it down. Great looking set up.
Thank you very much!
Hey Shane, I watched and then purchased the Dual Kit with the batteries for my 2018 Rubicon JL. Watched two more times and just completed the install in about 2.5 hours. A piece of cake. I did find out that I can disable my Start/Stop on the Rubicon by disconnecting the single wire terminal on the Negative terminal. Message comes up that the Start/Stop needs checked out.This was my first mod as a Warn Winch is next. I will put these batteries to the test. Kept the stock batteries as I will configure those as needed in my Overland MODS. You get 5 Stars on the instructional video. The connectors on the fuse box took a little more effort to remove than your video.
Man, I used your video to access the boot to pass a constant hot to supply power for a 2 way radio. I watched the video one time and was able to complete the removal and reinstall of the components on a Gladiator. Thank you. While this is a long process for what I needed to accomplish, it achieved the requirements for routing the wire to the spec on the install.
Travis Romberger That’s awesome! I’m glad this video was helpful for you!
Word to the WISE. Be sure to zip tie your alternator cable to something between the fuse box and the aux battery. I didn't and eventually ( just recently on a trip to the middle of Mojave) the wire vibrated far enough down and ended up resting on the exhaust manifold, where the insulation melted and then shorted the alternator to the exhaust, and then CAUGHT FIRE. Always carry a fire extinguisher. it saved my Jeep. When Shane says tuck it down there ... DONT, there is enough slack to run it above everything.
Great video. When the air box is out, is a great time to re-groom your winch cables before re-assembly as well.
Great tip, thanks!
This is an awesome kit, which will be used to power my ARB Fridge while camping. I really like the fact that you are removing that Motorcycle Battery (let's call it what it really is) from the system. Here in Arizona, batteries do not last long due to the heat, and I would not want to go through any process of losing that AUX/ESS battery while offroad, or even replacing it on a frequent basis. I'd much rather deal with batteries that are easy to get to, and easy to replace. Looking forward to installing this in a few days on my JL.
All great reasons to go with our dual battery system! We have these in stock for immediate shipping when you're ready!
If you install this kit and your Jeep doesn't start, try re-attaching the ground cable for the auxiliary battery. My 2021 Gladiator Sport needed the aux battery's factory ground cable reconnected to start. After 4 hours of trying to figure it out, that was what it was. Works fine now.
Thanks for the tip. We recently learned that Jeep made a change to the '21 models. The video shows a ground cable going directly from the big battery's ground to the little battery's ground, and that cable is no longer needed so it gets taped up and moved out of the way. On the '21+ models, the ground from the big battery goes to a vehicle ground connection, not to the little battery's ground. Therefore, leaving it disconnected as shown in the video kills ground to the vehicle. If your engine doesn't start after installing the kit, just reconnect that ground wire onto the factory negative post clamp.
I love my genisis kit, it has served me well for a couple years, and Shane is great people. just be sure if you are running your vehicle hard, to make your vehicle hard! : disclaimer from my previous comment...
Great looking kit. Well done video. I did learn, after scrolling way down the comments, that the second battery can be used to self jump start with the press of a button. As an overlander who's seen batteries fail on washboard roads in the remotest of places (such as in the Arctic), that's the most important feature of dual batteries for me. Thanks for the info, video and kit; this will be a future mod for me in my Gladiator!
Thanks. I went step for step and got everything installed. Even have a use for the batteries i took out.
By far the BEST Video & Dual Kit I’ve seen thus Far !!!!
Thank you Chris!
One of the best if not thee best install video I have ever watched and I've watched a few. Good Job. I had just given up on the idea of having two batteries on my JL.
John Smith thank you so much for the kind words! Made my day!
As of 7/9/19 we have confirmation that our JL dual battery kit also fits the new Jeep Gladiator trucks with no modifications!
Curious if I could dual the new Optima H6 yellow tops with this setup in a JL?
@@R0B74 No, the H6 won't work for a couple reasons - the posts are in the wrong orientation so the factory wires won't line up properly, and also it is about 1.5" too long, so it will not fit between the fender and the engine.
@Genesis Offroad - Will this dual battery system fit/work in a JLU 2.0T 4-cylinder model?
I just install mine and at first I was a little bit afraid but finally with this really well made video everything was fine! Thanks for this amazing product! 🤙🏼
So glad to hear that! Thank you!
Amazing video. I just bought mine from Expedition Super Store and installed it in about hour an a half.
That’s a very well detailed install video! My Jeep group has mention this setup before and was curious if there was an install video. Looking forward to getting this in the near term future.
Nice informative video. I wish everyone did it like that. I’m on your list for a diesel version when it’s available. Nice work
Thanks! The diesel Gladiator kit just launched! www.genesisoffroad.com/gen3-diesel-jt-dual-battery-kit
Just ordered for my 2020 wrangler JL thanks for all the info.
I also have a 2020 JL and was curious if the install had any effect on the push to start? TIA
Is there a reason as to why the positive aux cable should still be connected to batteries but the negative one is taped up to not be used?
Yes. The positive cable from the little battery has to be brought up and connected to the big battery. The vehicle will not start without it. This is due to the controls of the auto start/stop system. The video shows a ground cable going directly from the big battery's ground to the little battery's ground, and that cable is no longer needed so it gets taped up and moved out of the way. We recently learned that Jeep made a change to the '21 models. On the '21+ models, the ground from the big battery goes to a vehicle ground connection, not to the little battery's ground. Therefore, leaving it disconnected as shown in the video kills ground to the vehicle. If your engine doesn't start after installing the kit, just reconnect that ground wire onto the factory negative post clamp.
Great video!! I'll be purchasing this kit in the future from you guys!!
Awesome thanks!
I have a few issues here. 1st - the JL has dual batteries stock (as you noted, showed, and removed) and they are tied together 99% of the time, even when in off mode. if those battery terminals touch or even the + touches ground after removing them from the main battery, then you will blow a expensive fuse up. You must separate and tape the - cables from the main batt terminal first thing to separate the batteries and work safely. You got really close to causing a short in the beginning of your video. You could also remove a couple of more aux + cables and the ess relay by simply building a jumper cable from n1 to n3. Otherwise... its a good looking piece. good job on fitting those in there so cleanly.
Once the battery negative and positive cables are removed from the battery, nothing is going to short out because there is no current flowing. We considered including a short jumper cable to connect the 2 points on the fuse box, but you'd still have the factory aux battery positive cable dangling around, so it was easier to just move it up to the cranking battery.
Does this set up affect the stop start system?
Will the run stop still work since you did run it to the 2nd battery?
This looks like a great mod. Coming from a VW Camper with a dual battery set up, it only makes sense to do this with an adventure rig like the JL and JT. In a perfect world, things like interior lights, USB ports, radio, etc. would be nice to be able to run off the aux battery, or, as I did in my vanagon, have a switch to be able to decide which battery they run off of. Of course the wiring scheme in an 85 Vanagon is far more simple than a 2020 Gladiator. Your work looks top notch. One question though, do you know if this mod invalidates any kind of warranty issue that would be electrical in nature? While the design and install looks straightforward, you're still modifying the electrical system.
Always disconnect the negative first and connect the negative last
Great tip, thank you!
Great video. JL system appears to be a lot easier to install than the JK.
Thanks! Yeah, no more cutting the air box mount off, no evap solenoid to relocate, and easier to get the plastic tray out! The extra wiring can look intimidating, but as long as you label the wires, there's nothing to worry about!
Why don’t you keep the fuse box connected to the accessory battery instead of moving it to the starting battery?
This question definitely needs an answer.
The fuse box must remain on the cranking battery. If you move the fuse box to the aux battery, then when the isolator has the batteries separated, the fuse box will not be able to communicate with the starter and alternator, so the engine won't start. All your factory systems must stay on the cranking battery. Then you'll put all your aftermarket wiring onto our bus bars so that those devices will not drain down your cranking battery.
Excellent. Why doesn't Jeep manufacture all JL's with this better battery system? The new JL we just purchased has twice failed to start and we think the aux battery is too blame. Taking it back to the dealer on Monday!
Because most Jeep owners these days don't need 2 batteries to go to soccer practice.
easy way to do a quick check without tools is to push the ignition switch to on position without starting. pull up the off road pages looks at guages if your below 12V more than likely the AUX battery is going bad..
Let's say I do this and then need to disconnect the battery to install a light bar. What exactly do I do?
Simply disconnect both ground post clamps to kill power to the entire vehicle.
Had mine installed at a shop, they told me that the start stop system would no longer function? If this true? Now it just has the a with the circle on my screen above the fuel gage, and my start stop doesn’t work?
interested in the response on this.
@@ggjosh3296 me too, I very much like the start stop system, but 4000 miles into a road trip still doesn’t work
There is a reason he doesnt answer this question than has been asked over and over. Dishonest company. I had this system in my JK, but wont put it in mt 21 jlur.
nicely done. That must've taken a while to make it all work with so much going on. On my list for upgrades. I run a fridge full time and always worry about killing my battery
Thanks Richard! Yeah it's no fun to wake up to a warm fridge and a dead battery! Just remember your factory 12v outlets in the back will always run from the cranking battery. We make a dedicated circuit for powering your fridge from the accessory battery. You can see that on our website under the Power Outlets category.
Dealer told me if I do this the warranty is not invalidated. However, any electrical issues will require the old setup is installed for them to cover it.
Really nice and clean set-up, thanks for the helpful video.
Thanks Les, I'm glad the video was helpful for you!
Are there additional changes that would need to be made in order to continue to utilize the factory 4 Auxiliary switches + rear cargo 12v outlet? Or does everything have to directly need to be routed to that battery? Thanks!
Great video. Lots to consider and extremely insightful. Thanks
David Lomax Thank you!
Nice. You get rid of that little battery for the install. By getting rid of it does that mean the start stop system is disabled? Or does it run off the 2nd battery? since it was used to restart the car from a stop.
Frank Simpson Our system does not affect the start stop system. We will be doing another video that goes deep in the weeds on how the start/stop system works.
Shane: Great video! I plan on purchasing the JL Dual Battery Kit this week for my 2018 Rubicon Unlimited. A couple of questions: 1. The two wires you wrapped with electrical tape (and didn't use at all in the final installation)...what's the name of each wire? 2. If I were to give someone a jump...what battery terminals would I connect the cables to? 3. The 12 volt connector in the back of my jeep currently runs off of the cranking battery. Is there a way to disconnect it under the hood and connect it to accessory battery or do I have to purchase a separate 12 volt power outlet and run it to the Genesis accessory myself? Thanks in advance. I really appreciate you taking the time to video the installation. Thanks again. GRan
The wire ends that get wrapped with electrical tape are the 2 ends of the same wire - it's a straight wire from the negative of the small battery to the negative of the big battery. This one is not needed with our kit. Our kit comes with a new heavy duty wire to link the 2 negatives together.
To jump start yourself or someone else, you can connect to the factory positive wire (on the cranking battery) and the factory negative wire (on the aux battery).
The factory 12v outlet runs through the factory fuse box, so it would be very difficult to reroute it. We make a new dedicated wire harness for adding an accessory power outlet that will run from the second battery. You can see that under the 'Power Outlets' category on our website.
Thanks!
Thanks Shane! Got it!
Just finished install. Great instructional video! Service stop start message coming on? Any fix?
There's a very wide variety of reasons for that message to come up, even in a stock vehicle. Give us a call and we'll be glad to talk about it with you.
Well, i definitely need this kit
This is a piece of artwork!!!
Thank you so much!
If headlights like you said are run off cranking battery will the power ports inside and headlights turn off when Auto Start stop shuts vehicle off ?
No, the fuse box continues to get power even with the engine off.
Is it possible to keep small battery so have 3 batteries? Also does this interfere with a under hood snorkel?
We don't see enough of an advantage of keeping the small aux battery to justify the extra complexity. We recently confirmed the Rugged Ridge snorkel and the River Raider snorkel will work with our kit which is great news!
Is there a video to show install of the optional wires for monitoring and harness?
Great tutorial.
This is really great, looks like this will be on the future plan build out. How much additional room is now obtained above the fuse box. Would it be enough to place the ARB Twin Compressor?
We drop the fuse box down several inches in order to try to free up some space for other things since space is so limited under the hood. The ARB twin compressor is far too wide to fit between the firewall and the batteries though. We are hoping an ARB single compressor may fit there, but haven't had an opportunity to measure for it yet.
@@GenesisOffroad Thank you for the follow up, I like what you guys did here, it would have been the really beyond awesome if we could squeeze in the ARB
@@grein46087 I agree! I have an ARB twin compressor myself that I'm trying to get mounted. Jeep made everything so cramped under the hood! Hopefully we can figure something out!
Great way to lower your front end a little instead of a leveling kit 😁
The net difference is only 30-50 pounds over stock.
You noticed in the beginning he removed the positive terminal then the negative? Isn’t this backwards?
Taking the negative terminal off first will help prevent you from accidentally throwing sparks when you're removing the positive terminal, since it kills the ground to the whole vehicle. But either way is technically fine. Just be careful that's all.
Hey! Wow great video…just installed on my JL. I’m struggling with the amount of jiggle I still have with the two group 25 odyssey batteries.
After you installed the top tray and bolted everything down, are you still able to move the batteries at all? I’m finding a little bit of wiggle with the 2 batteries. This seems not ideal as with constant off-roading that this will eventually cause damage.
We have seen a few instances of this with Odyssey batteries. After discussing with them, we believe the issue is with the top lid on the battery itself. At the factory, the top lid piece gets pressed onto the body of the battery by a robot, and the exact force used can vary slightly. This means the lid sometimes sits a little high, and sometimes it is seated further down. Either way is not really a problem for the battery, but it can lead to it being loose in our tray. In this case, the easiest solution is to just put some sort of a space under our lid that holds down the batteries. Maybe a couple paint stir sticks, or a thin sheet of plastic or rubber. We will look into adjusting the height of the sides of our trays to compensate for this in the future, but we don't want to go too low with our tray because we don't want folks over tightening the top lid and squishing the battery. I hope this info helps! -Shane
@@GenesisOffroad awesome, makes sense. I used a small ratchet strap to wrap around the battery box and batteries. Seems to work pretty good and is rock solid. You see any issues there?
I'm curious which side of the setup would you attach a winch too? I'm really interested in this for winching and running a ton of lights.
You can connect your winch cables to the tall center studs on our power and ground bus bars. The winch will draw from both batteries at the same time to spread the demand across both batteries. If the winch sucks the batteries down low, then our isolator will separate the batteries and the winch will continue to work from the aux battery only, in order to protect your cranking battery from getting too low.
if you wire it to the hubs, as suggested, all will work well. fyi, if winching, you should always have the engine idling. this bumps the working voltage up higher, which is better for the winch, and couples both batteries, so it's better for the batteries. you can pull 400 amps with a large winch, and the alternator will only do about a quarter of that. the rest comes from both batteries.
Holy crap, that JL factory battery setup is a nightmare for any mechanic.
Will this keep the auto start stop working?
Yes, the start/stop system continues to work. In the stock configuration, when the engine stops, all your electronics run from the tiny second battery under the fuse box. Once the engine restarts, it is starting from the full sized battery. With our system, when the engine stops, all your electronics are running from both full size batteries since they are linked together, and the engine restarts using the cranking amps of both batteries. It may be subjective, but it feels like the engine restarts faster and smoother since you're using 2 full size batteries. Hope this helps!
While jumping another vehicle, attach jumper cables to Main Battery, as usual?
You can connect jumper cables to your factory positive wire on the cranking battery and the factory negative wire on the aux battery. This will give you the shortest path to your alternator and starter.
At 15:08 you wrap a factory negative and tuck it away. Is this the negative wire to the Aux battery and if so how hard to just completely remove? then at 18:42 another ground going to the AUX battery is tucked away. are these both ends of the same wire? where do each of these terminate?
The 18:42 was the positive terminal that went to the old aux battery. And yes the neg wire at 15:08 was the neg for the old aux battery. Not sure about removing. Would think you can but it’s probably a nightmare getting to it maybe.
I have those backward sorry…
@@skipdippity now I am confused. I thought the positive from the aux went to the positive on the new second battery to power the system. Ground is not needed. What did you have backwards?
@@Lammons1960 crap…I need to watch again to freshen my memory..! Sorry
@@Lammons1960 I had the 18:42 backward is what I meant. It was the negative for the old auxiliary battery. (Not positive) The one he taped at 15:08 was the original neg on the aux batt. I believe the 18:42 was the other end of that cable (15:08) going to the main original batt. He takes it off of the ‘multi’ terminal from the original main batt. Hopefully that makes sense. The 15:08 and 18:42 were the same cable. One end to aux and the other end to main. Obvious both negative. Hope that helps..lol
Hey Shane. Why is the negative from the aux battery not required with the dual battery setup. Am I correct seeing only the positive is needed?
That wire connected the big battery's negative post to the tiny battery's negative post. We eliminate the tiny battery and replace it with a second full size battery. Our kit comes with a new heavy duty wire that links the 2 big batteries' negative posts together, so that makes the factory wire redundant and unnecessary.
@@GenesisOffroad For the 2021 Gladiator Rubicon I had to use the ground on the main bar that you took off or I had no power. That ground was on a loop. So I'm told.
Hi Shane, I like your videos and the dual battery system.
I have one in my 2019 JLU Europe version, and I don’t know if it’s working like it should.
Everytime I turn off the Engine, a few hours later the voltage of the cranking battery is at 12.4v. Without using electricity. The Aux voltage still has 12,8-12,9v.
What could be the reason for this?
Hi Rob, no worries, it sounds like you just need to put a charger on the cranking battery to top it off. AGM batteries are considered fully charged at about 12.8v, so 12.4 isn't too low to be a concern. Here's a video that shows how to connect a battery charger to our system. th-cam.com/video/BxEV01_4I_s/w-d-xo.html
How does the overall size compare to a group 65 battery? I would like to dual battery my 04 WJ Jeep, it has a group 65 stock, looks like this could be put in its place with some fabbing.
If I wanted to eliminate the aux battery couldnt I just connect the positive aux cable to positive main battery cable and remove the aux ground cable and completly do away with aux battery?
Daniel Smith Yes
@@GenesisOffroad Thank you for reply. Ive been wanting to do that when aux goes bad. But looks like im getting the Genesis dual batt system. Merry Christmas too me!
Daniel Smith Woohoo! We have kits in stock when you’re ready to get it on the way!
@@GenesisOffroad Good deal. I think the Genesis is the best system ive ever saw. I Probably wont wait til Christmas... I dont have a lot of patience. Thank you for youre response. Ill update you after the install.
Just installed on my 2019 JL Rubicon. Too bad I can't attach a picture to emphasize how extreme the factory battery mismatch is. Factory cranking battery is at least three times the size of the little auxiliary battery Having worked as an ASE diesel mechanic for about 18 years I can testify to the engineering mistake that is designed into the factory Jeep Wrangler JL battery system. It was doomed to failure on the drawing board and I think they knew it and hoped it could hold up at least beyond warranty. Well it doesn't. My ESS system stopped working after just 2.5 years. Verified the issue is the little auxiliary battery. Doesn't hold a charge and draws down the main cranking battery. All of this is just my personal experience and opinion of course.
Hi, Great Video and very nice kit! Would installing your Dual battery kit affect my FCA warranty?
No worries with the warranty. Our system does not change any factory systems, and the rest of the vehicle does not know anything about our system. We actually have numerous new Jeep dealerships that install our kits on new vehicles for their customers.
@@GenesisOffroad Thank You!
Will buy today, thanks.
Absolutely amazing thank you
You're very welcome
Serious question. That kit when installed looks like it makes checking the oil a nightmare. It seems to bury the dipstick. Is this just me or is this the price you pay to install the kit.
It's just the camera angle. The oil dipstick is still easily accessible.
Hope you pattented that. I'll wait till I need to get new batteries.
Is your system compatible with solar charging systems?
Absolutely! Most people want to use solar panels to be able to run their accessories for as long as possible with the engine off. You can connect the solar charge controller directly to our power and ground bus bars. The solar charge will go into your aux battery first to replace the power used by your accessories. As long as the panel is big enough to keep up with the demand and charge up the battery, then our smart isolator will link them together, and the solar will flow over to the cranking battery as well.
@@GenesisOffroad Awesome Thanks! I have your JL dual battery system, I used this youtube video for my install and everything went perfctly. I am thinking of getting the display thanks again for the help
Micah Hunter we are upgrading our website today. It should be available soon.
Hi Shane. Is it possible to buy this kit in Europe? I'm from Portugal and i own a 2019 JL Sahara (2.2 Diesel model). If so, from where may i order it? Thanks for this great video.
We have not had an opportunity to test this kit with the European diesel model yet. If your battery tray looks like the one in the video, then it should work fine. We ship to Europe all the time, our website will give you some shipping rate options.
@@GenesisOffroad I also have this 2.2 turbo diesel engine. I'm also interested in your awesome kit, but the 2.2 Diesel engine has hoses (flexible and others in metal) that run down between the engine area and the battery area. Considering the total price of the kit + two batteries, would it be possible to have a confirmation of the compatibility with our 2.2 Diesel (sold in Europe and Australia among others).
Thank you for your help.
They are not at all interested in making the slightest effort for this engine. The only answer, "you can order a kit and if that won't send it back" ... But yes, plus the huge shipping costs to pay for the outward and return trip. It's a piece of crap. Chances are it will work, but without measures (there's nothing on their website) it's impossible to say for sure. I gave up the idea of making this change, no help from them.
Stephane B The problem is that we do not have access to that vehicle and engine combination here in the USA. We had the same issue with the JK kit. We had a customer in Europe who was willing to do a test fit of the JK kit into the European diesel version and it fit flawlessly. It’s not that we don’t want to support your vehicle, it’s just that I cannot tell you if it will fit or not without someone doing the first installation.
I have a pickup truck want to do dual batteries it is set up for dual battery system but one battery is on the driver side and the other battery Trey is on the passenger side it's about 4 ft 5 ft away you have a kit that will fit it
Yes, we do have a solution for you. We have a universal single battery kit that has all the same features as our JL kit, just squished down to fit on top of one battery. This kit allows you to remotely mount the second battery, then you'll run a power and ground wire back over to the other battery to tie it into our system. Here's a link to more info - www.genesisoffroad.com/Single-Battery-Kit-p/153-stbk.htm
May i ask if i can reuse the baby battery if im not ready to buy a aecond battery yet?
Or this kit only supports full size bats?
The battery tray is designed to hold 2 Group 25 sized batteries. It does not have any provisions for holding the original battery securely in place. If you wanted to do that, you would need to fab a way to hold it without bouncing around, but there's really no benefit to doing that. Our recommendation would be to wait until you're able to do both batteries at the same time.
@@GenesisOffroad awesome prompt response thanks
@@GenesisOffroad ive just checked my engine bay. It might not work unfortunately.
Battery on the left instead of the right. Fusebox front instead of back.
What do you do if you need a jump start?
Antalan LawGroup If your cranking battery is too low to start the engine, you can press the boost button. This will manually reconnect the batteries so you can use the power in the second battery to help start the engine. If that doesn’t work, then you can also connect jumper cables to the factory positive wire (on the cranking battery) and the factory negative wire (on the second battery). This gives you the most direct path to your starter and alternator for jumping yourself or someone else.
WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF INSTALLING THE TWO 55'S ?
It starts off the little battery keep the big battery disconnected I did on mine and it started just fine
There is an auxiliary 12v power port in the back of the jeep that is powering my fridge...will that be running off the crank battery? If so how would I correct this so I can run the fridge off of the auxiliary battery?
Yes, all the factory circuits including the 12v outlet in the back run from the cranking battery. We make a kit that allows you to install a new 12v outlet that can be wired up to the power and ground bus so that the fridge can run from the aux battery and not drain your main battery. Here's a link to that kit - www.genesisoffroad.com/12vpoweroutlet-p/171-12v.htm
does this void any warranties?
No, it does not void your warranty. In fact, we have many new Jeep dealerships across the country that install our kits into new vehicles for their customers.
No need to upgrade alternator? I'm guessing because it really only charges one battery at a time.
Im about to choose between a redarc dual battery system (with all the manager 30 stuff ) and this dual battery system; what advantages you believe this system has vs the redarc? Regards! Gladiator Rubicon 2022
The Redarc products can work with our dual battery system. They are complimentary products, not competing products. We give you easy to install tray for adding extra battery capacity, it connects them together in parallel to spread your demand across two batteries, gives protection for your cranking battery, easy access to connect accessories that need battery power, and the ability to jump start yourself if the cranking battery is low. The Manager 30 gives you several additional features. It’s an on-board battery charger, a shore power hookup charger, a solar charge controller, and other cool features.
Progress on the diesel version???
What if I have etorque battery instead of aux battery?
You can skip the steps that talk about the small aux battery under the fuse box. Everything else remains the same.
Hello ! Nice to meet you. thank you for your dual battery settlement. Here is Korea... My car is JL rucicom (2021). Sorry but... may I ask you a question about auxiliary battery? The main battery I am using is Iron phosphate battery(100Amh 1300cca). so, I would like to use only the main battery after removing the auxiliary battery. I would like to know if it is okay to connect directly the plus and negative terminals of the auxiliary battery to the main battery. Please.. May I wait for your answer? Thank you so so much!!!
Yes, you can remove the small aux battery and just move its positive wire up and connect it to the big battery's positive post. The ground wire from the small battery will no longer be needed. You can simply wrap it with electrical tape and leave it disconnected.
@@GenesisOffroad Thank you very much for your VERY KINDNESS. You have solved the problem we have been troubled by the second battery in Korean's JL dirvers. I would like to ask about your answer again NOT to make big mistake. Could you check my following note? 1. Remove the positive terminal from the small aux battery. 2. Connect it to the MAIN battery's positive post. 3. Remove the ground wire ( the negative terminal ) from the small aux battery. 4. Wrap it with electrical tape and leave it DISCONNECTED. Am I right? thank you so much.
@@힐바-h9l yes that is exactly right.
On my install, my Jeep 2019 JL Wrangler Rubicon will, seemingly at random, not start. So I go to the button and push it, it combines the two batteries and it starts fine (you should point out that great feature btw). However, I do not understand why it seems to drain randomly and not start. I am not using any of the aux that would draw power. Most of the time it works. The batteries are only 1 year old, should I replace the batteries? Also, when it is cold out they seem to drain very quickly and I have to use the combine button. Not sure what to think of the batteries. I have the genesis extreme 400 pci. Any ideas please help.
There can be a wide variety of reasons for your battery to be low. Whatever the case may be, that's why you have the boost button there to jump start yourself from the second battery. If you need some troubleshooting help, feel free to give us a call.
If you already use the aux switches in the 2020 rubicon, can you leave those wired as they are, and what battery will they pull from?
The factory switches get their power through the fuse box, which is hard wired straight to the cranking battery. All of your factory circuits will always run from the cranking battery. Any devices you connect to the power & ground bus bars on our system will run from the second battery and won't drain down your cranking battery. Therefore, I'd recommend using those factory switches only for devices that you plan to use while the engine is running.
this is real nice addition. do you have something similar for a 2003 wangler ruicon .
We don't have a TJ specific kit, but you could use one of our universal kits. If you have a spot to mount one more battery, you could use our universal single battery kit, and just run a couple wires to the stock battery location to tie it into our system. This gives you a remotely mounted dual battery system with all the same features. You can see more details including dimensions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/Single-Battery-Kit-p/153-stbk.htm
Sorry if this is a stupid question, what's the size of the socket for the bracket that holds the battery in? I've gone through my socket set and nothing seems to fit.
The bolt for the factory hold down bracket is 10mm.
can the acc battery be charged by solar panel using third party (redarc) modules?
Yes! Watch this for more details on solar panels - th-cam.com/video/tRe2Mjps0sg/w-d-xo.html
Will this void my warranty?
No. Our system simply gives you extra battery capacity. The rest of the vehicle's electrical system doesn't know anything about our system. More info about that topic here - th-cam.com/video/tRe2Mjps0sg/w-d-xo.html
Do you offer drive up install option?
Sorry, we do not offer installation service.
Thanks for the response. Had to ask😂
does the kit come with the batteries? if not could you link them? Thanks!
Batteries are sold separately. We offer the Odyssey Performance Series ODP-AGM25 and the Full Throttle FT750-25 through our website if you'd like everything dropped off at your doorstep. www.genesisoffroad.com/batteries.html
Sorry if this has already been asked. Will this work with the gladiator JT as well?
Yes! It will work with the JT with no modifications.
Can the JL factory option auxiliary switches be wired to the secondary battery?
The factory aux switches are powered through the fuse box, which gets its power from the cranking battery all the time. It may be possible to dig into the wiring to figure out how to move them over to the aux batteries, but we haven't tried to do that yet. On my JL, I use those factory switches for devices that I do not plan to run with the engine off. For anything other devices that need power with the engine off, you would need to connect those to our power & ground bus bars, or run an aftermarket fuse box and switch panel such as an sPOD.
So do you just not ever check your oil again?
John Brock jr we wouldn’t recommend that, especially since it is still easy to access the dipstick after installing our kit.
It would of been more impressive if you started the Jeep
TheSixthFinger Doh! I knew I was forgetting something! It fired right up though. :)