POPULAR ART SCHOOLS YOU SHOULDN'T GO TO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- hey guys, I distinctly remember stressing HEAVILY over what art school I should go to so I thought I would share the biggest things that helped me decide! Even though I have some funny/bad stories from my art school, I genuinely think it was the best possible choice and was overall a super positive experience!
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Lavender town : you don’t have to do a bank heist for art education
Me who was already doing one : *uh yeah totally*
Lol
Oh no-
Hold up-
I'll help then we can split the cash partner ;3
I call dibs on handling any police officers if it means I get a cut!
me who literally just got dragged into debt because of one of the art schools named: *ah yes.*
Oof
Which one
oof
You doing well man?
I'm gonna guess calarts because that was the one that tempted me like a seductive taco
AI alumni here: she right y'all. I'm still able to use my degree skills (interactive media, so NOT animation) but that debt is no joke. If you can't afford college altogether, build your art arsenal, network, and always have a project going on, either for fun or for your portfolio - alternate if you have to!
Hey, I'm actually going to be taking interactive multimedia and I want to know what you think of the program and degree? Have a good day :)
Eyyy -- aipx 2008 here and still not using my degree (though I also may not have been built for the ad industry, which was also a new program at ours and had a lot of kinks to work out), as is the case with most of my friends. Graphic design seems to have been the only major that seems to have a decent success rate. Almost all my animation & game art friends either had to go into freelance graphic design for creative work (supplementing a 9-5) or are just working in non-creative fields. AND we got between a high-end-car' worth and a small-house's worth of debt. Inflated job rate stats showed that "97% of graduates found work" but that of course was "found work anywhere" not "found work in their field" and counselors would stop calling with job tips as soon as you got that retail job after graduating.
Ours closed down a couple years ago.
Loved the teachers but don't miss the pressure to take out loans or the system.
I went to an open house at AI, this was around 2012, looking for a program on 2d animation, and the guy straight up was like "2d's a dead medium, we have 3d animation though". Imagine having your head so far up your own ass you think 2d animation is dead in 2012 while the best thing CGI outside Pixar can crap out is the likes of Fanboy and Chum Chum or another awful Ice Age sequel. Screw that guy and screw AI.
@@FabbrizioPlays fanboy and chum chum omg 😭😭😭
@@FabbrizioPlays funny they say that, considering many 2d artists on youtube make money, get sponsors and have dedicated fans. 2d animations contains far more personality than moving cylinder Muppets. 3d looks corny 95% of the time.
That's the equivalent of saying 'movies exist, so books are dead'
Ted Rant over 😂
*Me, who hasn't even graduated highschool yet:* interesting...
Me who isn't even in highschool INTERESTING
I graduate this school year and I still got no idea so your good xD
Me who doesn't plan on pursuing art in the future or going to art school : INTERESTING
Me, who is in the art high school.
That’s actually the best time to find out! I’m in college right now and I had no idea about this stuff going into it… luckily I just ~happened~ to end up at a college with a good art program 😅
“whoa this is so helpful!”
i say as i’m currently attending art school
How’s it going?
@@reigningleafs4245 pain and suffering but make it ✨creative✨
Same. I’m on week three but module 5 and I’m like....huh....
When does this become fun""
@@miikapm2 oh that stinks, hope it gets better for you!
@@reigningleafs4245 i hope so too💀
Decided to attend a state school instead of a fancy art school. It offered animation and was the cheapest option. Only one of two colleges to offer it in my state. I was worried that it wouldn’t be prestigious enough because “no one knows about this schools animation program.” Well… come to find out that not only is our media program loaded on funding, but we have tech that almost no other schools do. Our teachers are amazing, the students are lovely, and the amount of opportunities I’ve gotten just in my first year is so ridiculous in the best way possible. I’m also on track to graduate debt free. I was so stuck on going to one of the big art schools that I almost went 180k in debt to pay for the famous art schools. Don’t let them trick you! Yes, they are good, but you won’t fail if you choose to not go to them! They aren’t the only option.
My daughter is wanting to go to college for animation and character design…may I ask what school you attend? She loves SCAD, but I want her to look at various available good choices.
hello! may I ask what school you attend? I recently graduated in graphic design for my bachelor degree and wanted to apply for animation for masters in US. I'm an international applicant and that would be a big help if you tell me what school you attend.
respectfully, u cant say all that n not tell us what school it is omg 😭
There are so many people who have made it in the art world even without a degree. Art is unlike many fields where you need certification to say you are good enough. Pick a school that will help you improve and that is all that matters… I assume, what do I know though I didn’t go to school for anything art related.
Prestige =/= educational quality. If you're passionate, any place that provides an environment flush with resources to practice with and learn from will really accelerate your progress.
To me, most of the value of ANY prestigious (not just art) school is being able to network with other people in a similar income bracket.
“How to avoid scam art schools”
Tip #1: Leave America
LMAO
Me who doesn’t live in America
@@bibule They will still find you...
That also costs a lot of money. A lot less than college, but still. The average person still can't afford to travel most of the time.
@@guyinthechair5795 art school doesn’t interest me anyways
Oh
FINALLY someone who doesn’t want me to turn my hobby, art and drawing into a profession or to make money. I love art but every time I show someone my art a lot of the time they will say “omg that’s so good! You could get so much money doing this!” It makes my want to scream and curl into a ball at the same time ughhh
Omg same. I can't show any of my art to someone I know irl without them saying "you should do something with that!". But when I talk about doing something with art no one sees it as a full-time job anymore. I hate it.
I probably won't do it professionally anyways
I have the opposite problem lmao. People don't take me seriously when I say I want to have a creative career 🥲
@@TamTam-rq4nc Aaw, I hope you can prove them that you're right then.
I was constantly told that I should go to college for art because I'm so good at it, but even now I feel kinda worn out just doing art for myself. Everytime I think about being an animator, I just feel miserable
@the art gal Sammmme or just upload it in general. I don’t wanna take a career in art anyways. I wanna be an author for fun while being an Astronomer :)
"you might have to do something boring like designing rocks."
That honestly sounds very interesting, does the rock have to be part of the environment, does it have a history, does it need something special or something to stand out, is it natural or manmade. I might be really lame for thinking that designing rocks could be actually interesting.
I kinda felt the same :p
there's all sort of rocks and minerals with various unique qualities, hell not all gravel is the same
It does sound fun
If you think like that than you’re the opposite of lame!!!
No it's true. It's interesting and important, I mean you can literally get a job doing that, and as you should because every little detail can make or break a scene for the most part. Nobody takes the time to admire the work that goes into everything a piece. Big ups to everyone that specializes in the little things because I love seeing those gorgeous moss covered rocks in ancient Forrest temples ❤❤
To anyone who’s looking for art schools, I highly recommend Columbia Chicago.
They have the best financial aid program in the city for art schools (I got a full ride due to my good grades and other scholarships they offer, only having to may for living expenses), the professors are very laid back (they swear in class and are very friendly), they give you a lot of creative freedom (you can take electives whenever, procreate is considered a professional program, and the assignments are usually open-ended so you follow a few requirements but do what you want for the most part), and they talk about jobs one can pursue after they graduate (even obscure jobs, like making furry art or selling prints at conventions).
Intro to Illustration is the beginners class you take for your major, and it covers a lot of job related stuff. And professor Elio is AMAZING.
My experience has been mixed due to my freshman year being entirely online, but I still had some really positive experiences there. I’m sure this year is going to be much better.
I apply and I only got $2000 scholarship… I am out of state lol
ty im actually near there so even better
Thank you. I’ll look more into it
Yes! That's my school! Would definitely recommend
@James Pietsch man Peoria, IL has a higher murder count than Chicago proper sjfjf i think you'll b ok
Heads up for any non-canadians thinking of applying for Emily Carr University. They're planning on raising the tuition for incoming international students by 30% in 2023. They're already raising it 10% for CURRENT international students. Alot of Canadian universities see international students as cash cows and rely on their money to keep the university running.
Oh no :(
Thank you for letting us know, my dream was to go study there but with the tuition raising I cannot afford
Well, it's not really that Canada sees them as cash cows. We have a problem where people from all around the world, but a lot in the States, will go to our schools and leave right after to get a job in the USA. It's a problem because then a LOT of our students (like doctors) will leave and so we won't have a lot of staff left. Canada is very low on a lot on staff because of that reason, that's why did put a fee. Please do your research.
"Your hobbies don't need to be profitable."
Capitalism: _Incorrect._
A few of you need to import a sense of humor.
Capitalism: foolish mortal
1.5k like and only one reply? Let me add another
this is one of reasons why i hate capitalism
My parents: *Incorrect.*
@Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte Oh my goodness, it’s almost like no one said a word about communism :0
Shout out to MassArt, the only state art college in the country totally worth the money. Yeah i am an alumni and employed over 20 yrs in design
What did you major in? What did you find that was particularly good or bad about the experience? I want to go to MassArt, so I want to find out as much as I can about it.
@@yasterday5377 I am a BFA Illustration Major 1994. So yeah a long time go the cost at was about 5-6k a year. The professors work or have worked in the field ft and freelance. I also learned just as much from my classmates as i did from the professors. My biggest suggestion would be to utilize the career resource center both for internships and paying jobs. The staff in that office weren’t very engaged but the resources they kept were invaluable. One downside was the computer lab wasn’t the best or big enough so get a mac and adobe creative cloud on your own. It has likely changed though. The cost vs degree was much more reasonable than a risd degree. Being near so many art galleries and museums in Boston was helpful for research. Mass art is great for most design degrees just not for animation. Wishing you well!!
@@yasterday5377 massart student here!
So pros and cons of MassArt
Pros:
-cheapest art school in the US
-high acceptance rate
-great network in the boston area
-advocates for mental health
-very gay
Cons:
-art supplies are EXPENSIVE
-Its hybrid due to covid. Not easy to learn
-Pretty ableist honestly. You miss any more than 2 days of a class per semester and you fail the class.
-The work load is massive depending on your major
If you have any other questions or concerns lmk!
@Amber Gabrielle applied there. And awaiting a decision. Are they good for like networking and helping you find employment after graduating. Also do the have scholarships?
Yeah I live in Massachusetts and I am applying to Massart. Hopefully I will get in and if I do I’ll save a lot of money.
You know what's strange? I'm an author, not at all really interested in art. Yet this channel really helps both inspire me and helps me with my writing in general...I don't get it.
Yeah im confused with this statement too 😅
This might just be because I'm a drawing artist, but I find watching her be productive and creative (especially with the character creating/updating videos) helps me be creative/productive by proxy so that might be it
Me not planing on going to artschool and living in a Country where College is free like 👁👄👁 you pay WHAT for school ?
That USA life 🇺🇸
We love putting people in debt for school and healthcare 🥲
My moms still 50 and in debt :)
Bruh 😭 I didn't realize some countries didn't have to pay for school. What the hell 😂 I hate america lmao
@@Espresso_plz B-b-but the E C O N O M E E ! ! !
@@moistoyst3187
“But we can’t afford free college and healthcare!!”
Ok then, stop funnelling all of our taxpayer dollars into developing the newest Syrian child slaughterer.
Im just grateful that my teacher isnt forcing us to make our artstyle super realistic like into realism , they are open to cartoon or anime rendering style which was a relieve to me as someone who doesnt really wanna have a super realistic artstyle bUt . Its good to learn realism cuz its a nice way to learn the basic
I hope they aren't giving you that advice for a life drawing class
@@BlissAnimations What do you think?
@@DeathnoteBB ? Wdym you shouldn't be drawing anime during a life drawing class lol
@@BlissAnimations nah nah they dont its just like , they dont force us to that direction, they gave us more freedom but of course on the right time
@@BlissAnimations of course we draw realism for that 😂
I know someone who went to a very prestigious private art college in a large Canadian city. The dropout rates were WAY too high, the students had no life outside of classwork, and it was overall really toxic. Her art has improved more *since she dropped out* than it did at that school. Prestige and reputation of schools doesn’t always equal good education and improvement!
hi Taylor can I ask which college she attended ?
Me, who already has a master's degree and just switched careers: interesting 🤔
off topic but your pfp is so cool
@@ilovecucumbers15 baww tysm! Deku is way too fun to cosplay 😭🥦💕
That last point totally is me. I never went to art school or tried to do art professionally, but I've had periods of time where I felt like I 'had' to do art, and my love for it suffered as a result. I'm much happier drawing as a hobby.
That last one has such “this is fine” meme energy and its so relatable XD
I’m an engineer who enjoys art as a hobby and honestly Lavendertowne’s advice definitely holds true for any college search, not just art. I love the school I went to, but holy crap my field is so much harder than I expected from the glimpses of the cool stuff involved with it I got from high school. But in my mind it was worth the struggle because now I can do challenging things I enjoy as a job. But I’m glad I didn’t go for something like art school or music school even though I am really good at those things because they are my hobbies, and my escape from the pressure of school and jobs and whatever. You always need something fun in your life to lean on with no pressure. Otherwise you’ll drive yourself crazy trying to justify every interest you have.
I feel like Lavendertowne is very wise about the college search thing, and I like how she has shared her experiences of art school and her career with us :)
No matter what your path is, keep making things you enjoy. Its good for you!
What engineering did you do?
It’s insane how expensive collage is in America, in Ireland it’s only 10 thousand or 12 if you can’t get free accommodation. 2 thousand a year I. Some. In average, btw love your videos, really inspiring
im probably gonna go to ireland/germany for art school considering its pretty cheap there and im half irish/german :D
Calarts is expensive but definitely not a scam in terms of the education + connections I’d say, the money part is mostly applicable to all colleges so in the end it all comes down to personal decisions
did you go?
I think formal instruction is worth it, but if you have the option to go to a regular college that has a good art program, your wallet will be much happier.
Essentially, it’s best to be informed about your options and not only look to well known and expensive art schools.
Sounds like you have a financial safety net that lets you not worry about expensive tuition. For a lot of people, that could put them in permanent debt regardless of “personal decisions” (I’m not saying you’re a bad person because that option is available to you, just that maybe you should ask yourself if you’d have the same opinion if you had no family/childhood savings and had to pay for your full education, food, and housing out of pocket for four years)
How about Ringling? I live in Florida, I really want to go but I can’t wrap my head around the cost and I’m in my first year of college in a community college
I'm so scared to actually go to college I'm currently a highschool student and I feel like time is running out and I need to choose what I'm going to do for the rest of my life when I'm still trying to learn how to drive a car I don't have any other talents or hobbies other then art but I hate drawing my assignments in art class because it's not what I wanna draw but I feel like I need a college degree to survive I dont even know if I'm good enough to attempt to go to art school everytime someone asks me what I want to do after highschool I'm scared shitless I dont know!! I dont even know what kind of art job I want because I cant animate and I'm bad at telling stories aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
you are a whole freaking mood 🤝 im applying to colleges this year and im still not sure what im going to do with my life. i think the best we can really do is just keep in mind that everything isn’t as dire as everyone makes it out to be. you don’t have to declare your major until sophomore year for lots of colleges, and in some colleges, you don’t even have to pick a major. in those underclassmen years, maybe you’ll find something you’re good at and wanna make a living out of, who knows. plus, a lot of people switch majors or get jobs that have nothing to do with their degrees. you could take a gap year if you really need time to figure things out, no shame in that. point is, you don’t need to figure out the rest of your life when you’re a teenager, despite what some people may say. deep breaths, it’s going to be okay. lots of other people have gone through and are going through what you’re going through now, and we’re all going to make it out okay.
@@gabbyiskrabby Ahh!! Thank you I really needed that. Its just something that I've been overthinking lately I'm so stressed lmao. I wish you luck !!!
@@Bewwenforp When you are older it might be a good idea to get a non-art related job and do commissions in spare time, but I don’t know much about jobs and stuff.
wow I feel the same. my option is to just give up on art and choose something else that's easy for me. art is fun but doing it as a job/for school is stressful and I'd hate it. it'd ruin my passion for art completely, so I'd rather keep it as a hobby bc I'm not even that good at it.
I'm currently going to community college for a visual arts degree and I'm going to eventually transfer to a university. I think a lot of people overlook community college when it's a great way to slowly get used to college and how everything works and gets you contacts with other aspiring artists and stuff and also doesn't drain your wallet. I've had really great teachers at my school and learned so much, there's no need to rush through your life and just take the time you need to get used to things and so you don't rush into school debt or whatever
I'm a SCAD student and I love it but I'm not afraid to confirm that it is a scam in terms of price.
I'm an alum. I loved most of it, but man that tuition is just... wow. And only getting more expensive, too.
Same. You had to find through professorme who was good and I met some GREAT profs from my field. But the price was ridiculous.
Same, I absolutely love attending SCAD but it's a total rip-off lol
I am will be starting to attend SCAD this September and thankfully my dad said that he can pay it for me, but we have talked seriously various times about that it is still a lot of money, but that he is very happy to help me with my career. (Also just so people, SCAD is technically the cheapist one within our budget, at least compared to other options to which I applied to)
@@diegohinojosa5509 SCAD also has a job portal so if you want to make money on the side, you could look there too!
Damn that last part really hit. I’ve been slowly realizing that my dream to be an artist has been a secondary one
For my entire life I’ve wanted to perform and sing, but my singing skills are too poor to be able to get into a college at this point. So I was basically like “okay I guess art is good enough” even though arts were only ever a hobby. I beat myself up for not learning anatomy or color studies because then my portfolio would falter, but I’ve realized that I shouldn’t get invested into a really risky profession that I don’t even care much about
This video was the final nail in the coffin. I’m going to keep doing art as a hobby and pursue psychology or film as my career choice. Thank you so much for making this video
one addition to the last point that i wanted to mention that's super important!! my school has a huge animation crowd to the point where animation majors sort of get mocked by more traditional art professors because half of them end up hating animation and dropping out, but one of my professors pointed out that just because you end up not liking the art part itself doesn't mean you have to give up entirely on it! there's all sorts of jobs adjacent to art that you can find comfort with. if you wanted to be an animator but find out it's just not for you, you can still be involved! animation studios still need writers, marketing teams, financial experts, managers, all sorts of things that are just as necessary to keep things going! you can love art and want to have it as a job without necessarily doing it all the time.
plus, the benefit of going to a school that isn't specifically for art is that you can switch majors to something different if art ends up not working out for you.
plus plus, if you generally get good grades in school, look into any state scholarships you can qualify for! i'm not sure if other states have this but because of a scholarship in my state i got my tuition completely free and get to keep it for all four years as long as i keep my grades high enough. yes, it is a lot of work, BUT it's better than coming out of college unemployed with major debt.
I'm so glad that I had a college art teacher tell me that the school I had been considering transferring to was a scam. Especially because I was partway through the process of getting set up to go there, and I totally would have gone through with it if he hadn't set me straight.
What school is it?
What school?
Full Sail University
I don’t need art school, lavendertowne “do this not that” videos got my back
I think that you might be missing a couple huge components of why the first 2 art schools you mentioned are so expensive. (Or at least CalArts).
I know that when I went there, the instructors had worked full-time for years, as artists/animators in the industry, and were not just graduates of other art programs that got jobs as instructors without being in the trenches.
Animation students (for example), have to make their own films every year.
You learn every part of the process and why each step is so important to the whole.
You learn to write, storyboard, animation of course, editing, and if your films utilize actors and music, how to source and integrate those things.
There are lots of other things that factor into it also, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.
The other big thing you get is invaluable also, which are the connections you make with both your peers at school and in the industry.
It was and prob still is highly competitive to get in (CalArts Character Animation) program, as the freshman class is small, and you were expected to hit the ground running, so-to-speak, with real skills, such as drawing and because you are there for character animation, I don't mean just being able to do copies of cartoon or anime characters, as you have to envision and create your characters in motion.
You learn how important it is that the whole character's body moves in relation to what the action is in the scene and how to keep it alive when there is not a lot of activity for that character (so there aren't what looks like just a bunch of "talking heads").
I don't mean movement just for movements sake, I mean acting as applied to the character and the story you are telling through your drawings.
I also agree. The tuition is massively inflated, but there is a MAJOR reason for attending those schools. It is insanely hard to get into those industries without existing publication credits and connections. I know my choice was a combination of luck and calculated risk.
I needed this omg cause I've been planning on going to an art school, I just don't know what
Bless your Klee pfp
Klee-- 🥺
Same here. Glad Lavendertowne's videos are always there when we need them
TH-cam: "here's a video on how to pick out a good art school"
Me who wants to become a children's doctor: "interesting"
nice mikorin pfp
I know this is an old video, but as a high school senior i really wanna thank lavendertowne for making this video. As im applying to schools, i feel as though this video gave me a good sense of reality when considering schools from an early age. I actually had a portfolio review with Alberta UA and they gave me a portfolio waiver and really liked my work, it would be so significantly cheaper, even the dorms are a third the price. I could very well end up there in a year, and I would have never known about the option if not for this video! Kinda crazy to think that this might change the course of my next four years for the better
This is really eye opening as a high schooler who was planning to go to SCAD. Now I’m reconsidering. Thank you for giving such meaningful advice
I wanted to go to an art school in the states cause I've heard amazing things from Calarts for instance. But the moment I saw the tuition fees I RAN. Went to Gobelins l'ecole de l'image in france and it's been one of the most wonderful experiences I had. JUST, LOOK AT THEIR GRAD FILMS I MEAN-
yes.
Hi!! It's been a while since you commented this but could you tell more about your experience with going abroad, language, the program, etc?
Is it hard to get in?
@hrfontanez3252 oh my I just checked this message- I actually graduated this year!! It was a ride, I joined the french class cause there was no international class before. tbh, living abroad with a language that isn't yours it's a whole other level of hardcore. Paperwork it's extra hard cause almost nobody speaks english. (Makes sense) When it comes to the school it was a bit better. Yet Being honest I feel the french classes were better explained than the ENG ones. The program has changed drastically so I'm not sure I would be able to write something relevant about it anymore.
i instantly saw SCAD and my art teacher is obsessed with it.. uh oh
scad is insanely good at marketing 💀
@@bigfatbahamamamas9314 yeah we did a free course from them where we learned how to draw the head which was really fun but nothing you couldn't get out of a youtube video
This is so unrelated, but could you plz do a part two of Percy Jackson (like Clarisse, Luke, etc.) for ur by the book series?
I see you are a person of culture
MMMMMMM PERCY JACKSON! Also it’d be really cool to see Lavendertown’s rendition of Clarisse
If we're not old enough yet for college but considering art school, is there a certain type of prior experience we need?
take art classes in HS !! or art classes in the summer
See what your local community has to offer. Local library, community college or guidance counselor are good resources for information. Guidance counselor would be the best to help you plan out your electives/classes for current/upcoming school year. Also most likely to know what community events/classes you could participate for your age range. For instance, I didn't realize my local community college had art-related workshops for youths/teens until I was already about to graduate.
I didn’t take any art classes in high or middle school, so personally I just recommend doing some self study! If you can find a life drawing class you can take during the summer or something that helps too~
Ahh ty all for the advice!!!!
I'm gonna try to switch majors to get more art experience but I'm definitely gonna try doing some classes and studies as well :D
As an adjunct professor of graphic design, this list is extremely helpful for incoming freshman. The last point! I've seen many of my friends that just don't end up working in the field- especially everything you like becoming profitable. Love how you broke it down "forcing yourself". Great video :)
*is in community college for art and doesn't plan on continuing afterwards*
Yup, this is the video for me!
Honestly community college is the way to go
Yup, community college is the best:D
It's a great way to start! I worked my ass off in CC and was able to get some really good financial aid when I transferred to my current uni.
I'm going to community College too! Hope it goes well 😅
@@TamTam-rq4nc I've had a good experience so far, I hope you will too!
Art School dropout here to offer a different perspective. I always loved art and really put all my chips into art school but after comparing prices I decided to attend a bigger university with an art program in it rather than an art school on it's own. I definitely recommend something like this to anyone who is unsure about being an art major, I feel like my experience is a lot more well rounded since I wasn't just around art kids during big events. I loved my time at the art school but at the end of the day I didn't feel like I would enjoy a career in it, because my school had so many options it was so easy to change my major rather than transfer schools. I feel like I would have felt more pressure to "stick it out" had I attended a school that JUST had art majors.
If i were to re-do my college experience I would have done a year or two at community college first, no matter where you go you will have to take gen eds like math and english. Community college can get these credits out of the way for cheaper and give you more time to decide where to go from there. If you're really unsure about an art degree (or any degree) then DO NOT rush into it, people start college at all ages so don't let the pressure get to you!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate LavenderTowne's amazing art pls?? I love her art style sm 😭❤️
It's REALLY hard to find customer reviews like this because VCAD, for example, has over-saturated search results with their own content. VCAD is in Canada, an 18-month is $40k, no refunds past 50% completed, and many students looking for legal action
it makes me feel so validated to have somebody tell me “you don’t need to make a profit from your hobbies”. i think if we’re to make a profit- i would only be making things like stickers or prints bc those are actually things that i like to make, too.
me, who doesn't even plan on going to an art school:
"yes, very interesting"
I remember in high school a lot of my fellow artists were looking at RISD because it was a really well known school whereas I had already figured out that it wasn't something that coincided with my goals as an artist. They all got a dose of reality during the portfolio review when they figured out what the school wanted from their artists. Now I'm going to a college that is pretty reasonable in price while giving me a good challenge. You really have to be willing to put in the work though because that's the only way you're gonna improve. I also HIGHLY RECOMMEND doing a lot of research. I ended up at a school I like because of that research.
Btw. This isn't a dig at RISD. They produce many good artists but a lot of the artist at my high school weren't into the more experimental art that RISD was looking for.
I just want to say as a graduate with a Bachelor of Fine Arts who had to do half-time to go, it was worth it. At the time, there weren't nearly as many resources online for Animation. I got to meet pros in the field, professors I loved, and many friends! The pricez yeah it's ridiculous but to play devil's advocate a bit, Art is a luxury type of field. And SCAD was a private collage... I do wish Gen Ed classes were cut. They took like 40 credit hours. Still they give you Fine Arts training. You have to study outside of classes on your own too; which is an important skill to keep. Some didn't learn that.
It's all how you approach it. Be smart with it. I lived at home. She's right with the ProfessorMe rating system. It was a lifeline for like 5 of those 6 years. You will get stuck with some bad Profs but don't let them ruin your experience. Do not let anyone do that to you. What's most important is getting your education and money's worth as we would say A LOT!
Oh my gosh, they all look so good!! I love how you did maximalism, it's actually pretty harmonious with the green, blue and yellow being on the hair and other components of the body, it's looks great!
My favorite was probably Croquette, she looked to cute, but also like she'd eat someone if not watched carefully 😅
Yeah, even now, before college, I never took the optional art classes, because I HAD to do art, but it put pressure on what and when I wanted to draw for happiness. And if there's a specific thing or style you prefer drawing with, you can just do that too! Having art as a large hobby is still valid too
Yeah, I had a huge passion for art and really wanted to go into illustration but then I realized it wasn’t really for me and I just like it as a hobby. I’m majoring in accounting now 😀👍
I don’t know if it exists in other countries as well, but here in France we have preparation art classes that last a few months, which give us all the tools, tips, and knowledge that are necessary to enter an art school. They also tell us which one we should go to based on what we want to study (art or design) and on the other students’ feedback. I think it’s a great thing to do the year after you graduate high school, if you feel a bit uncertain about your future and/or don’t know which art school is better for you.
As someone who REALLY wants to do art for a living, this was crazy helpful! I’m gonna be looking at Canadian/European art schools in the future! Thanks Lavender Towne!
I want to go to art school.. but i have asian parents 👁💧👄💧👁
Not even in high school yet. Best to plan early I guess?
Thank you so much for this, i am incredibly privileged to have the army pay for my college and my siblings because of my dad. it only applies to in state and pubic schools, so this has reworked on where i might want to go since i am able to dodge SO much debt. i have been really on the fence cannot being able to go to a full blown art school, not getting an educated the way i want(maybe not getting the same chances in jobs) or avoiding debt. this is comforting me in wanting to choose the cheaper option
When you where talking about wanting it as a career I also had to juggle with the fact that I likely had ADHD so I struggle with things I am not motivated to do.
I’ve been doing an art program at my community college that’s been really helpful, but I’m worried if I don’t get a degree from a reputable school I won’t be able to find industry work. I’ve been told big animation studios only really take artists from schools like CalArts, but I’ve also been told if you build up your portfolio and resume enough, they don’t require a BFA at all. I guess I’m just not sure what to believe?
I know this comment is a bit old and i wasn't planning to respond, but maybe I can help ease your anxieties. Before applying to art school, I interviewed people in the industry. They dont give a flying crap about what college you went to!
it's all about the portfolio + connections. It's really scary but if you look at the people who make it big, sure, many are alumni from popular schools like SVA or SCAD, but some didn't go to school at all! Did you know the creator of Star Vs the Forces Of Evil dropped out of high school?
the industry is hard, but its unique in the way that your portfolio holds the heaviest influence over hiring.
hope this helps!
This is weird! I just signed up for an art school when you posted!
👀 is it a sign?????
I chose Ringling college of Art and design cause they make sure you get a job when you graduate lol its also just my dream school so….
But it is also crazy expensive! If its not for you then its a terrible idea Lol
Coming to this videos after AI's campuses literally disbanding
My parents will not allow me to apply to an art school, but these kinds of videos are pretty interesting to me though :)
Why though?
Lavendertowne knows exactly when I need an advice about art schools. I just graduated last week and now I'm wondering if I need to go to an art school to learn animations or just teach myself and go from there'd.
BTW an art school that you shouldn't go to is the Vienna Fine arts school, especially if your Austrian or German
Your art style is so beautiful and just lovely to look at, I love it
The debt thing is why I want to move to Finland. Partially. But I’m not even going to art school, because I want to learn to write, and that stuff.
man i’m “homeschooled” now but we haven’t even started any programs or anything, i’m just sitting at home while everyone else is at school. i have no clue what i’m gonna do when i graduate from whatever this is. i mean, i couldn’t even handle high school. what the hell is gonna happen to me in the real world?? my only talent is art, and there’s no way i’d be able to turn that into a profession (when i get art block, i CANT draw, like physically). what am i gonna do man??? i just wanna go to college somewhere far away so i can actually live yknow, but i have no clue what i’m aiming for and i feel like my best bet would be driving around with my eyes closed and getting out wherever i end up and basing everything off that.
Who needs artschool when we have Lavender Towne?
Cost is the exact reason I'm not going to art school right now. But I'm rethinking that decision.😅
Don't go to art school, it's a waste of time. Take it from someone who has literally spoken 1 to 1 with someone who went. The degree means nothing and it is a waste of time.
I went to art school & the only thing I got out of it was debt.
7:44 it's amazing to me how you can add so much expression you can add to your characters by simply changing the pupils and mouths
I actually remember a highschool teacher having reps from both Calarts and SCAD come to class to promote their own schools. Immediate red flag was seeing them cover everything about their campus and almost nothing about their courses and majors. So did a few google searches and realized they were basically scams.
They are not scams. You get out of it what efforts you put in, like anything else.
Me laughing at the name SCAD not knowing what it was:
That's not just art schools, it's the whole University system.
Me who's about to start applying for college in a couple of weeks: Time to rethink my life choices 😏
Istg evert day things 😛
Going to Junior/Community College first to knock out your GEs and then transferring in as a Junior is a really good option if you can do it. You’ll save money, get the college experience, network with others in your field, and have time to really decide if that’s what you want since you can also take a bunch of different courses unrelated to your major. You can still apply for scholarships and grants as a transfer student and the transfer student retention rate tends to be higher than if you were to jump directly in. It also makes going to one of the higher ticket school much more affordable, since you’ll only be going for two years. I’d also say to apply to a few places because then you can negotiate from a point of leverage your financial aid package as the schools you get into will want to fight to get you to attend their school.
@@FutureRevolutions well I already took a couple classes at my local community college and was planning to transfer the credits to the college I’m going to attend if that helps…
Wow, this just popped into my feed and has been really, really good. It reminds me of this one art teacher I had when I was a lot younger. A lot of kids hated him for assigning tough work, for challenging them, for honestly judging their art (well, not too honestly, we were children, everything was bad.) But, really he weeded out the passive artists who weren’t really gonna find pursuing art as… fun, in the end. It was an amazing thing he did and I’m still grateful. I still want to be an artist.
Does anyone know if max the mutt is good for bigger studios like CN and Nickelodeon? I know that on the website they said that some of their students have gotten into companies like Warner Bros and Portfolio Entertainment but most of the art schools that really get you into stuff like Disney and Pixar are usually in the US but I’m in Canada :c
Aaron Long went there and moved from Canada to LA to direct Bojack Horseman and Tuca & Bertie. Think he said he was discovered through his online animation and rarely schoolwork, but he still did all years. He put together some great web cartoons while he attended Max The Mutt and that stuff alone was hire-worthy.
@@sweetpea644 thank you so much! I really wanna work at CN but finding good art schools in Canada is kinda difficult when you’re not in BC or Alberta.
If you’re looking for a good animation school in Canada I’d recommend Algonquin College. It’s cheaper than Max the Mutt and opens up a lot of opportunities for work.
Ottawa is a good jumping off point to get connections to bigger companies and rent is more affordable than Toronto. That’s mostly for personal experience. Hope you find a good art school!
@@paperdino7690 thank you so much! I’ll check it out
Near the end when you started talking about if art was really the career we wanted to pursue, you really got me thinking. I quite dislike the idea of art block, I have never had it. Idk way I haven't, I just, haven't. And I really DONT like being forced to draw something I dont want to draw. It makes me feel drained and irritated, and then makes me not want to draw again for a while. But I REALLY want to go to art school!!! Tbh, it sounds like one of the most enjoyable things for me!! I'm an extrovert. And being around people I like make me excited and motivated to do the things I love! Being around a whole lot of people that love the same things I do sounds like a dream come true! I want to be challenged! I want to get alassignments, be challenged with my art! I dont want to work in the industry. Its just not the job for me, I want to be a freelance animator ( or as I like to call it, "freestyle animator" )!! I want to make people happy with the stories I create with pictures!! I want people to look at the shapes moving around on their screens and be inspired!! I want to share the fantasy worlds I have created in my mind and make someone emotionally moved by the story I make come to life! But I want to do it on my own time, in my own why, and at my own pace. BUT HOLY COW THIS IS LONG, I'll get to the point. Want I'm trying to say is I love what I do, but I'm worried about it being taken away from me by all the bad experiences I might encounter. I dont want to be so pressured that I lose the thing I love most in life, art.
50,000 dollars a year? I’m getting a stem degree at one of the highest ranked state colleges in the country and my tuition is only 15,000 a year!!!
Trying to find an online college to finish off my degree. I already have an associate of art and thinking of going into graphic design for the last two years.
Update, at ASU online right now
I know a guy who went to art school but he got rejected
He went political.
Erika
i really like the way you draw hair, i am still bad at it
I haven't even finished middle school yet I'm looking at this because I want to go to an art college one year older
I like that this video is more honest about how some art teachers will ruin our art college experience it made me feel not so alone in this thank you
To add a little tip for those who want to be able to get through a drawing you don't want to do or have a lack of motivation for. Find just one aspect of the drawing you look forward to doing. I'm about to get into some art classes and decided to do a semi-realistic portrait to see where I'm at in realisim (Knowing I'll be doing some of that in one of these classes). I do not really enjoy doing realism (but props to those who do because that stuff looks awesome). So to make the experience better I just found something of the drawing I looked forward to which was the hair and the finished result.
Me, who doesn’t even really do art and has no intention of pursuing it:
*Interesting*
sheridan college is a canadian college with an excellent animation program, but its so difficult to get into especially if youre applying internationally
I'm doing college apps around now and I know I want to go into art as a profession and this helped a lot!! I personally won't have to worry about tuition but thinking about the cost of school versus how much you make as an artist gave me some really good insight I wouldn't have thought of, and the rest of the video gave me some really valuable ideas that I'm going to talk to my college counselor about. Thank you for the awesome video, Lavendertowne!
I'm currently a freshman at Ringling art and design , I really recommend Ringling
the teachers are really nice and down to earth
im in middle school and i do art as a hobby and the "art" teacher there doesnt know what a sketch is. she is a ela teacher. that was put into the role of an art teacher. everyone hates her and all the art kids are like wtf with her all the time.
I’m really young and already looking into art school and tbh that last thing about this hobby not needing to be profitable kinda messed me up for a second but personally looking at it from a standpoint knowing that it’s gonna make me broke and that it’s gonna take years and part of it is gonna make me bored I kinda wanna go just to learn and expand my ideas because I’m so stuck in my regular ways of only drawing humans and only drawing girls thanks for the advice lavender town!
Is going to a regular college as an art major just as good as going to a school just for art?
I'm doing that right now! I'm doing animation at a college that's otherwise known for their STEM programs, and how I decided on it (and what I'd recommend doing) is I looked at what sort of work the alumnis have done, what experience the professors have, and what connections the college has, if any. If the program looks promising, it can be just as good as an art school. Hope that helps! :)
@@sonus8837 what school is it?
SCAD is actually around 56k a year with room and board and it’s not worth it. I dropped out of there last spring and by golly it was a good choice
As someone who will be studying abroad it’s shocking to hear that two years of language school and four years of the art school I plan on cost less than one year at CALARTS 😭
Realized I should put this - I’m going to be both studying abroad and immigrating to Japan. It’s been my dream to not just be a comic artist but a professional mangaka since I was 11. Being a foreigner - especially a western foreigner - trying to get his foot in the door for manga will be difficult, but I’m more than ready for the challenge!
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I wanted to ask if anyone got some advice for me. I want to study art in Canada, something related to concept art and animation. Any recommendations, advice, warnings I should keep in mind? For context, Im about to start my last year of high school in Mexico
Sheriton, Emily Carr, and my alma mater Alberta University of the Arts are all considered very good Canadian schools! Also, if you're going to work while you go to school, make sure that you ask for help with your tax forms! I messed up mine and they almost charged me like 50 grand because of it haha. ;w;
@@LavenderTowne Wow.
LavenderTowne actually responded to a comment.
Thank you so much! I'm only in middle school, but my mom said when I'm in high school, I'll be able to attend one. Now I know what schools I could tell her about.
Me: looks up art schools and applies to a scam one
5 minutes later
Lavendertowne: Wait- no-
Thank you
Me, who hasn't finished middle school yes: ah, yes, thank you
I'm glad there are actual art schools in canada, that are actually affordable (I'm Canadian) even though I'm not even close to college, it's still good to know if I ever end up wanting to go there.
I love you style so much. It’s changed so much but it’s still your style and as a subscriber of many years it’s been rlly cool to watch it change
Also, please make sure you take some sort of marketing course. Art schools (at least the one I went to a decade ago) do not educate you on how to market yourself and your art. I am now on my 30's and still trying to learn how to get my art out there. You need to know how to find your audience, price your art, manage your finances, and maintain a presence online and in social media to promote your work. A good art school should provide some sort of education on making your art into a business.
I currently attend CG Spectrum through their partnership with Hussian college.
I am currently being taught under Tyler James, and I will admit, I was extremely nervous in my first few weeks.
This program (Online only because CG Spectrum is located in Melbourne Australia) isn’t easy, I’d argue it’s less so than attending a physical brick and mortar school. And I will admit that in the first couple of weeks i wasn’t seeing the progress that I thought I was immediately going see. However I stuck with it, and now I’m 2 months into the program and drawings reasonable looking people again for the first time in over seven years, and my confidence has sky rocketed.
I think that this whole video is wonderful advice, and to be honest I wish that I had seen this before I started hunting for a school. But! I still found the best school for me.