Can anyone actually articulate their negatives about nuclear energy. Not just taking points but a concise reason on why it isn’t affordable for Australia, or any other reason it won’t work.
From the US, I was born in South Florida and my entire life I grew up with all of my power coming a nuclear power plant. Specifically Turkey Point Nuclear Power Plant. I've gone through so many fucking hurricanes and there has never been a serious issue. Nuclear power is honestly amazing and has been really blown out of proportion by genuinely evil big oil, I hope y'all think about it. Nuclear Power and Green Energy is the future.
Why is there no real arguments here? no facts no figures, just thoughts and feelings? comeon guys, very disapointing. "I havent done the math but my power bill is going up"
Australia does not have the heavy industry, engineers, building capacity to make nuclear affordable or built on time. Let alone the cost of storing the waste.
Australia already stores nuclear waste. The point is, where one sees a shortage, others see an opportunity. Australia has some of the finest engineers and researchers in the world, and it is not like they will be inventing the wheels.
It's not all or nothing here. It's a case of renewable plus nuclear in support. It's not as though the next election is 2 weeks away! Details are coming.
20 years ago I was a fan. But now it’s very clear if countries with established industries are having trouble with reliability and building them for what batteries + solar already costs, and nuclear is getting more expensive and batteries cheaper. Nuclear power has passed as an idea. It’s last century. Unless the plant is already built it’s uneconomical with overwhelming proof this is true.
There are pro's & con's with any form or sourse of energy, overall I am convinced that nuclear energy in Australia's time has come! If we take seriously the goal of meeting net zero by 2050 it is the only way forward, in the future we will need more energy not less.
I don't have a basic objection to nuclear power in Aus. The waste is a problem but I think we can address that. My problem is the price, the skills and the infrastructure to implement it.
I watch Four Corners to see if the opposition had progressed beyond saying nuclear is the answer to all our power supply requirements in the next 40 to 50 years, & came away with the feeling they are selling an idea with no detail, like buying a car thats still in design form with a long lead time before it goes into production, they did this about eight to ten years ago with the NBN, & we all are still paying & experiencing that monumental disaster.
It's the only way forward in my opinion. With how expensive utilities are in Australia, and with our large landmass and stable climate and environment, there is barely any risk factors. (Yes we have bushfires but they're barely a risk compared to earthquakes etc).
The reasons the Coalition is so fixated on nuclear power is simple. It takes generations to get up and running, and its the only energy source that will still benefit their mining magnate mates. They barely so much as mentioned it during their DECADE in office and they cant keep on pretending climate change doesn't exist because were not stupid.
Think about it guys, we cannot have excess power can we, That would mean an over supply of power and the need to reduce the cost of power. What a load of rubbish here
Hey Aussies, there is this distant mythical land called South Australia which is a fantastic living example of what can be done with renewables in 2024. They're using solar, wind and storage to build-out a grid that is durable, clean and cheap (and getting cheaper). Suggest checking them out!
Anyone in NSW remember when separating our 3rd party vehicle road insurance was supposed to make it cheaper? I quickly learned never to trust anyone who says 'this will make it cheaper.'
Nah, I think nuclear energy can be done right at the right price, you can’t let hippie environmentalists block your project 😂🤫🙋🏼♂️‼️👍🏻 I mean, we all want air con right lol
Where? please share the link, because all we have here is people poking sticks at each other, i like abc, but, theres a lot of heresay on both sides and neither have the guts to pull the cold hard facts and show them to each other and say hey look your wrong and heres the facts. All we get is an old guy saying i havent done my calculations yet but i think my powers more expensive... what kinda stupid comment was that to include, stop get a power bill and show it or dont include more heresay. Both sides are shoevling steaming piles of horse shit.
Your a terrific guys and I love your programme, but we ain’t got. A clue what it will cost, how long to take to build them or how it will bring power bills down. Absolute joker
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Well done ABC for opening this up for comments 👏👏👏
Just ridiculous having this discussion still. This is the NBN all over again, and the same people will fall for it again.
So the Americans stuffed it up. Why doesn’t the ABC go and interview Japanese or French people about their electricity bills?
“I’m not going to give you any detail today”
What the journalist should’ve said: “then why are we having this interview?”
Can anyone actually articulate their negatives about nuclear energy.
Not just taking points but a concise reason on why it isn’t affordable for Australia, or any other reason it won’t work.
From the US, I was born in South Florida and my entire life I grew up with all of my power coming a nuclear power plant. Specifically Turkey Point Nuclear Power Plant. I've gone through so many fucking hurricanes and there has never been a serious issue. Nuclear power is honestly amazing and has been really blown out of proportion by genuinely evil big oil, I hope y'all think about it. Nuclear Power and Green Energy is the future.
Most of the ABC viewers can’t open their mind to anything that goes against the ABC
You think 12 billion is a good price to build it?
Perfect example of an anecdotal bias, nothing happening to you doesn’t mean it won’t happen here.
Having worked in a government infrastructure role, the pool of management staff in this country couldn’t safely manage the use of a AA battery.
How strange.... A political party that said renewables are more expensive but somehow think nuclear is cheaper.... 🤦♂️🤡
“Cheaper”
Nuclear is safe and clean, but it’s crazy expensive. Solar is an easy option for Australia.
Why is there no real arguments here? no facts no figures, just thoughts and feelings? comeon guys, very disapointing.
"I havent done the math but my power bill is going up"
There's plenty of facts anf figures scattered throughout the presentation.
lol dgnbfujbvgjnv is very disappointed. What is your plan to get over this disappointment you are feeling??
You stole my thoughts completely.
Facts and figures about the cost and time overruns, and government subsidy requirements were covered in the story.
"We have the concepts of a plan"
20-30 years too late.......and hideously expensive. Smells like a fossil-fuel pushed smoke screen!
Australia does not have the heavy industry, engineers, building capacity to make nuclear affordable or built on time. Let alone the cost of storing the waste.
Australia already stores nuclear waste.
The point is, where one sees a shortage, others see an opportunity.
Australia has some of the finest engineers and researchers in the world, and it is not like they will be inventing the wheels.
Ok, so if it's not feasible, then let's lift the ban??
Yes and renewables has all the answers with the cost savings
I have solar panels and batteries and haven't had an electricity bill for 3 years.. 🤔
Adapt and overcome..
Play more ominous overtones really help show ya bias
I chuckle at the continuous clips of cooling towers. Steam is cooled through these towers no pollution at all.
We should listen to the wisdom of Malcolm Turnbull.
Its not like he stands to profit from the alternative source of energy.
Oh, wait ........
It's not all or nothing here. It's a case of renewable plus nuclear in support. It's not as though the next election is 2 weeks away! Details are coming.
20 years ago I was a fan. But now it’s very clear if countries with established industries are having trouble with reliability and building them for what batteries + solar already costs, and nuclear is getting more expensive and batteries cheaper.
Nuclear power has passed as an idea. It’s last century. Unless the plant is already built it’s uneconomical with overwhelming proof this is true.
Yer Nar
Not in this world🎯
Get a grip Australia.
There are pro's & con's with any form or sourse of energy, overall I am convinced that nuclear energy in Australia's time has come!
If we take seriously the goal of meeting net zero by 2050 it is the only way forward, in the future we will need more energy not less.
Don't need it, can't afford it.
I don't have a basic objection to nuclear power in Aus. The waste is a problem but I think we can address that. My problem is the price, the skills and the infrastructure to implement it.
I watch Four Corners to see if the opposition had progressed beyond saying nuclear is the answer to all our power supply requirements in the next 40 to 50 years, & came away with the feeling they are selling an idea with no detail, like buying a car thats still in design form with a long lead time before it goes into production, they did this about eight to ten years ago with the NBN, & we all are still paying & experiencing that monumental disaster.
Anything that makes power is very expensive so what do you do.
What the heck? Comments are turned on on an ABC story? 😮
Renewables... cheap to produce, expensive to store.
Not as expensive as nuclear power
Cost of storage is coming down at a huge rate and will soon be a no brainer.
If only we had natural gas to use !!
Id rather have expensive reliable energy then expensive un reliable energy. Stick your battery storage where the sun don't shine.
Nuclear power is essential to deliver cheap reliable power.
The reason nuclear plants are so expensive and time consuming is because each one is essentially a prototype.
It's the only way forward in my opinion. With how expensive utilities are in Australia, and with our large landmass and stable climate and environment, there is barely any risk factors. (Yes we have bushfires but they're barely a risk compared to earthquakes etc).
The reasons the Coalition is so fixated on nuclear power is simple. It takes generations to get up and running, and its the only energy source that will still benefit their mining magnate mates. They barely so much as mentioned it during their DECADE in office and they cant keep on pretending climate change doesn't exist because were not stupid.
Activist journalism.
Go NucleaR!!!!
I wonder whether these big ticket items are sensible?
Thankyou for having you comments open.
Indeed, the next election will be the most important election regarding climate change. Too bad its some 20-30 years too late. Oh well. YOLO.
Have all the energy sources in the mix
something that divides us down the guts oif the old and new generations.... bring it on!!!!!
Think about it guys, we cannot have excess power can we, That would mean an over supply of power and the need to reduce the cost of power. What a load of rubbish here
Anyone else keep thinking of Homer Simpson? :)
Yeah, when he was talking about the need for more nuclear engineers, hahaha.
Yes
Nuclear would a reasonable idea if we had started developing it 20 years ago.
How snowy hydro 2 0 going.... yea nuclear the problem not a useless unionised workforce.... well done abc yet again
Hey Aussies, there is this distant mythical land called South Australia which is a fantastic living example of what can be done with renewables in 2024. They're using solar, wind and storage to build-out a grid that is durable, clean and cheap (and getting cheaper). Suggest checking them out!
Stop adding another million consumers to the grid every couple of years.
This is a great video. I felt it was balanced in explaining the debate
The wind blows at night and waves go night and day 24-7-365.
Thanks team and good luck Eric 🎉
With all that sunshine, and this is an option? Baffles 😂
How did something like how we create energy for the economy become a political debate. Why cant we agree on action
Solar is a perfect solution for Australia, Nuclear is expensive and dangerous -
No it isn't.
They got the towns wrong that is did they screw up
A politician telling an untruth ? I’m shocked …
Anyone in NSW remember when separating our 3rd party vehicle road insurance was supposed to make it cheaper? I quickly learned never to trust anyone who says 'this will make it cheaper.'
An ok..ish.. Report - Strange how there was no mention of *Nuclear Waste?*
Nah, I think nuclear energy can be done right at the right price, you can’t let hippie environmentalists block your project 😂🤫🙋🏼♂️‼️👍🏻 I mean, we all want air con right lol
My instinct tells me this is another example that the U.S is manipulating Australia😂😂😂
We should do this. With our vast country we could make the cost of living for all of us cheaper!
Great reporting, thanks 4 Corners!
Whatever cost and timeframe they announce, triple it.. Gotta make sure their mates are well fed 😉😉
Who would buy anything from Bill Gates honestly get serious
fantastic journalism
Where? please share the link, because all we have here is people poking sticks at each other, i like abc, but, theres a lot of heresay on both sides and neither have the guts to pull the cold hard facts and show them to each other and say hey look your wrong and heres the facts. All we get is an old guy saying i havent done my calculations yet but i think my powers more expensive... what kinda stupid comment was that to include, stop get a power bill and show it or dont include more heresay. Both sides are shoevling steaming piles of horse shit.
What one sided?
If not nuclear power then lets build more coal power plants.
What about nuclear waste
We already have to sort that out due to us getting nuclear submarines
I bet Elon musk could build it early and under budget.
No one is talking about the waste!!!
Your a terrific guys and I love your programme, but we ain’t got. A clue what it will cost, how long to take to build them or how it will bring power bills down. Absolute joker
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