“Debate” Night. This still feels more like everyone giving their own independent take, with brief rebuttal (debate) at the end of each cycle. An easy fix to create more conversation and debate would be for Trevor, instead of giving his take on each panelists opinion, to use his instinctive takeaways and redirect them to the next panelist. This creates more conversation and (more importantly) more debate. This is at least part of the reason your inspiration show, Around the Horn, rotates which panelist goes first for each topic. My .02.
This has to be individual takes, otherwise it’s chaos. Agree it hurts Trevor boosting the previous panelists comments instead of just resetting the question for the next. He can add his 2 cents, just needs to be at the end of all 4 takes.
@@mikethomas5451 disagree. If all panelists are “in” on the format , then it doesn’t take rocket science for anyone to react to a previous point and then bend it back into fresh points they were going to make rather than redundancy. Tony Reali facilitates this type of thing daily. But, not my show, just my take!
Not to mention if you are giving people the topic before it gives them time to prepare. I don't want some guy reading chatGPT formatted answers to his takes each time.
@@DOPES4MAGA to be fair, it was his first go, and he did give unique takes, even if they were rehearsed; no doubt that his speaking courage will come with time… I can’t imagine going on the show for the first time with three other established panelists and being remotely comfortable without having done my homework well in advance.
Trevor needs to not comment on what every individual person said right after they say it. Maybe just summarize what they said quickly and move on. It makes no sense why he’s doing it. There is no debate..
Hey, big fan. Just a suggestion, (and I hope this makes sense) but you guys should have a rebuttal button on each contestant’s screen (Brodie, Hunter, Dustin, etc.) that will queue them up and have a graphic at the bottom for anyone who wants to rebuttal at the end of each round
"Innova Discmania is best Discmania" is not a sentiment that dominates disc golf anymore. Those discs are nothing but collector's items, the new plastic is so much more consistent and higher quality
As someone going through the same injury as Paige, I'm really looking forward to see how she does but also hope she doesn't come back too soon. My injury happened in late May, just a couple weeks before hers, and I am just now regaining confidence in it. Little things like walking down a sloped hill, wet surfaces, uneven grounds, things I always took for granted, now are true concerns. Glad to have Debate Night back and Lucas killed it!
In regards to the all star event, this is a perfect opportunity to host the manufature team event idea previously mentioned on other foundation videos. It would give an incentive for manufacturers to send players they want to show off with new signings or star players. They can try to promote their brand right as the season begins and the players might be more motivated since they are representing their brand in a challenge rather than themselves.
As a fan, I love the all-star event. I also think it's good for the sport to see your favorite players reconnect in a low stakes environment just to have fun together. With so many things happening in the off season (signings, injuries, new molds) there are a lot of data points to capture. For me, all-star events in any sport is a way for players to give back to the fans for their support of the sport. No sport survives without fans and disc golf fans are out there growing the sport in there local communities and buying discs. The steady increase of the Pro Purse over the years directly correlates to the popularity of the sport with fans having the largest impact.
DGPT and/or The DGN can have a “Pre Season” to test equipment and ramp up be covering an A-Tier or a Qualifying Series event a week or two before the first Tour Stop. Either move or Change the “Champion’s Cup” Major to another tournament or location. Move All Star to a week or two after Pro Tour Championship and put it at the new & improved IDGC in GA
All star event should be collegiate doubles or similar. Get as many pros on one card to avoid having to jump around on the broadcast. 2 cards collegiate doubles would go for 2 hours of non stop highlight shot golf
What if the all star event switched to a manufacture cup. Where the excitement stems from the drops the manufacturers will make, new discs and merch. And at the event they do different events with there players to demonstrate and highlight new product. And then playing collegiate doubles they all compete for bragging rights as the best team and maybe the manufacturer wins the ability to run a certain event or be the basket host for the year.
one thing that’s better this year than last year is that you’re not all just agreeing with each other. previously it felt like y’all would just make the same obvious point repeatedly. only suggestion i would have for now is to make each person’s talking time shorter. 90 seconds is a bit much for this format.
instead of all star do a manufacturers cup!!!! people care alot about the brand they are throwing! and obviously so do the pros, cuz of the contracts and all
This is a fantastic idea, I would love this, it would put more incentive on making disc golf brands into real teams, though I doubt the manufacture would ever agree to it
Lucas dominated. Not sure how he lost the Q series topic. Nobody in their right mind is going all over the country for a shot at making a tour that pays no money outside of the top 10
the points kind of seem arbitrary if they are not given as the discussion progresses. I thought the points were supposed to mimic the 'Around the Horn' format, which I think was quite entertaining. I get that maybe the points are arbitrary anyways, but it is less exciting as a viewer if the points are slapped on at the end without any real indication of how many points were actually made.
Good show everybody. Lucas did well. Only tweak is Trevor needs to hold his comments until all 4 have spoken and just reset the question between comments. Oh, and the green/white does not work well.
As long as Gannon stays healthy he will equal or even surpass Eagle, yes Eagle will still outsell in the disc department for a longer time... but Gannon is the Eagle of the current young generation, he will be one of the biggest names soon
If Eagle regains his sidearm after getting his shoulder surgically repaired he will be on another level above Gannon right now. Eagle before his injury was the top player not named Ricky Wysocki and Paul McBeth.
Totally agree with Gannon and his discs. I have no idea why they allowed him to actually go visit Eagle and buy his old discs? How does that help selling any new discs? And how an earth did he have the nerve to go buying discs from one of the biggest rivals?
I tend to mumble when I talk. I’m aware of this, so when I record anything on video I force myself into speak more clearly. That being said, PLEASE ask Dustin to slow down when he talks.
I don’t understand the hate for the annual all star event. I get the timing would make more sense towards the end of each season, but other than that it’s an event that’s fun to watch and players enjoy to play. Live and let live you know? If you don’t want to watch don’t watch. Sometimes I feel like y’all just want to be critical just to be critical lol I get that’s your job, but that’s also where it gets “tabloid” As far as the info and format, I went to the DGPT website and found everything in a blog article in 10sec -it seems the article was posted a week ago too so it’s not like it’s hard to find if you cared enough to know where to look. The interview with Calvin and Isaac on Tour Life was misleading because Missy came on and knew all that was going on, seems to me they just might need to open their emails and read them. I also get they were asked to be on late- so they weren’t prepared for the questions. No hate just an observation. And finally - Brodie been salty about this event from day 1. Not sure what that’s about maybe him not being invited hurt him or something but he hasn’t said anything positive about the event at all. Consider putting as much attention on your game as you do with this event and maybe you can deny the all star invite yourself next season.
Ranking Foundation podcasts even though no one asked 1. Griplocked 2. The Banter 3. The off-season 4. The Preview Show 5. TourLife (zoom sucks) 6. Debate night 7. Trevor Staub show 8. In the Bag 9. Plastic addict (never watched)
Trevor please stop commenting after every person speaks. It takes away from the show. i could see summarizing after each round. Maybe instead of rambling on your own opinion, use the content the person just said to set up a debate between another person. If you want to debate, you should be a contestant.
Timer should be 45-60 seconds. Not trying to listen to short stories. Also part of debating is proving someone else is wrong. Need more attacks on opinions to make this fun.
I’m not sure if it happens a lot, but I think that scripts should be banned from the show. I’m not gonna name name’s, but at least one person’s round couldn’t have sounded more like they were reading off of a script. Great show nonetheless!
Trevor sucks, always jumpin down Brodie’s throat when Brodie is just trying to make a point. It’s obvious the two don’t mesh, super noticeable in Off-Season this year. I’ll just watch Tour Life from now on. That show rocks anyway. I bought Tour Life merch just to stick it to Trevor. Hunter still cool though
It almost seemed that way, but it was quality stuff and decently delivered. I’ll let the new guy slide the first time. Better to be over prepared for a debut then fall flat and ask for another try.
Ah Lucas’s point where we can reconnect with our favorite player…. Nope I can’t see Paul Mcbeth(he wasn’t even invited to play… wasn’t cuz of his injury) play before the first season….. my 2nd favorite player… Brodie smith… nope he’s not there…. Lucas made a great point!
Where is "offseason"? I think there is room for these to both exist. The stories on "off" need telling! My vote goes for both great pods. If it matters, call it "the in season"
Feels good to be back
White on lime green is difficult to read, not impossible but YES, difficult.
Lucas is fantastic, just need to get him on the good good WiFi in East Tennessee if that exists.
can you guys put the chapters/topics on the bottom? so you can scroll directly to a particular topic?
I’ve been asking for timestamps for years 😂 it’s not ever happening 😂😂😂😂
Yeah not gonna happen round here. People ask all the time.
Especially listening in my car. That would be huuuuuuggggeeee
Holy hell Dustin talking on 2x speed haha
Gotta beat the clock!
He always does/has. At least he is able to do it understandably. Dustin is good.
Professional
“Debate” Night. This still feels more like everyone giving their own independent take, with brief rebuttal (debate) at the end of each cycle. An easy fix to create more conversation and debate would be for Trevor, instead of giving his take on each panelists opinion, to use his instinctive takeaways and redirect them to the next panelist. This creates more conversation and (more importantly) more debate. This is at least part of the reason your inspiration show, Around the Horn, rotates which panelist goes first for each topic. My .02.
This has to be individual takes, otherwise it’s chaos. Agree it hurts Trevor boosting the previous panelists comments instead of just resetting the question for the next. He can add his 2 cents, just needs to be at the end of all 4 takes.
@@mikethomas5451 disagree. If all panelists are “in” on the format , then it doesn’t take rocket science for anyone to react to a previous point and then bend it back into fresh points they were going to make rather than redundancy. Tony Reali facilitates this type of thing daily. But, not my show, just my take!
Not to mention if you are giving people the topic before it gives them time to prepare. I don't want some guy reading chatGPT formatted answers to his takes each time.
@@DOPES4MAGA to be fair, it was his first go, and he did give unique takes, even if they were rehearsed; no doubt that his speaking courage will come with time… I can’t imagine going on the show for the first time with three other established panelists and being remotely comfortable without having done my homework well in advance.
Good show!
Great job Lucas!
Lucas was fantastic in this, way to bring the heat from a guest debater.
Great to be back for the new season of Debate Night!
I hope you get some more DGN commentary opportunities. Maybe the 2nd alternate stream stuff at least if nothing else.
@@mikethomas5451 Budget guts and less events being covered this season will likely mean I will not get that chance unfortunately.
Scrap the All Star event and bring in the always talked about MANUFACTURER’S CUP!!!
Would be so cool.
Trevor needs to not comment on what every individual person said right after they say it. Maybe just summarize what they said quickly and move on. It makes no sense why he’s doing it. There is no debate..
This might be my first debate night 😮 ill miss offseason but this looks interesting so far
It’s heavily dependent on the guests but usually pretty good in my opinion.
banger episode. one of the greatest debate nights episodes. its becoming very professional. Might I suggest an in person debate night at some point?
I had to do a double take on my playback speed a couple times when Dustin was talking. Wow he talks fast. Thought I was on 1.5 speed.
Hey, big fan. Just a suggestion, (and I hope this makes sense) but you guys should have a rebuttal button on each contestant’s screen (Brodie, Hunter, Dustin, etc.) that will queue them up and have a graphic at the bottom for anyone who wants to rebuttal at the end of each round
"Innova Discmania is best Discmania" is not a sentiment that dominates disc golf anymore. Those discs are nothing but collector's items, the new plastic is so much more consistent and higher quality
As someone going through the same injury as Paige, I'm really looking forward to see how she does but also hope she doesn't come back too soon. My injury happened in late May, just a couple weeks before hers, and I am just now regaining confidence in it. Little things like walking down a sloped hill, wet surfaces, uneven grounds, things I always took for granted, now are true concerns. Glad to have Debate Night back and Lucas killed it!
Yes he did! And good luck with your leg healing/confidence
Wp Lucas, wp.
Good to have debate night back!
Lucas with some great takes. Excellent addition to debate night.
That Will answering the phone joked killed me 🤣😂🤣😂
Good start to the season boys. Very funny and entertaining. Thought provoking too I guess. ;)
In regards to the all star event, this is a perfect opportunity to host the manufature team event idea previously mentioned on other foundation videos. It would give an incentive for manufacturers to send players they want to show off with new signings or star players. They can try to promote their brand right as the season begins and the players might be more motivated since they are representing their brand in a challenge rather than themselves.
As a fan, I love the all-star event. I also think it's good for the sport to see your favorite players reconnect in a low stakes environment just to have fun together. With so many things happening in the off season (signings, injuries, new molds) there are a lot of data points to capture. For me, all-star events in any sport is a way for players to give back to the fans for their support of the sport. No sport survives without fans and disc golf fans are out there growing the sport in there local communities and buying discs. The steady increase of the Pro Purse over the years directly correlates to the popularity of the sport with fans having the largest impact.
Lucas shredded the topics and panelists.
Lucas is good gotta get him higher quality video somehow
How come this podcast didn’t upload on Spotify?
DGPT and/or The DGN can have a “Pre Season” to test equipment and ramp up be covering an A-Tier or a Qualifying Series event a week or two before the first Tour Stop. Either move or Change the “Champion’s Cup” Major to another tournament or location. Move All Star to a week or two after Pro Tour Championship and put it at the new & improved IDGC in GA
Dustin sounds like those radio ads with the terms and conditions rattled out at ultra-fast speed.
Dustin had me checking my playback speed settings
All star event should be collegiate doubles or similar. Get as many pros on one card to avoid having to jump around on the broadcast. 2 cards collegiate doubles would go for 2 hours of non stop highlight shot golf
Hunter said that on Grip Locked also as an idea. It’s probably a good idea.
I've been saying Brodies point of Discmania getting the Robinsons for a year...
Welcome back . Does anybody know the statice of the Rainmaker and Cloudbreaker ? As in , can Discmania still make them…
What if the all star event switched to a manufacture cup. Where the excitement stems from the drops the manufacturers will make, new discs and merch. And at the event they do different events with there players to demonstrate and highlight new product. And then playing collegiate doubles they all compete for bragging rights as the best team and maybe the manufacturer wins the ability to run a certain event or be the basket host for the year.
Scrap All Star part and just make it a skills comp to start the season a week before the first tournament.
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Lucas is my new favorite lol
one thing that’s better this year than last year is that you’re not all just agreeing with each other. previously it felt like y’all would just make the same obvious point repeatedly.
only suggestion i would have for now is to make each person’s talking time shorter. 90 seconds is a bit much for this format.
Last year people would go over often and loose points.
@@mikethomas5451 yeah that got silly at some point, but the impulse to keep the responses concise was a good one
The light green is super easy to see on this end
Discmania grabbed the whole homeschool group. Solid group of young players.
The top 4 points earners should compete for the Player of the Year award.
instead of all star do a manufacturers cup!!!! people care alot about the brand they are throwing! and obviously so do the pros, cuz of the contracts and all
This is a fantastic idea, I would love this, it would put more incentive on making disc golf brands into real teams, though I doubt the manufacture would ever agree to it
Lucas dominated. Not sure how he lost the Q series topic. Nobody in their right mind is going all over the country for a shot at making a tour that pays no money outside of the top 10
I really like Brodies idea for a champions tournament!
the points kind of seem arbitrary if they are not given as the discussion progresses. I thought the points were supposed to mimic the 'Around the Horn' format, which I think was quite entertaining. I get that maybe the points are arbitrary anyways, but it is less exciting as a viewer if the points are slapped on at the end without any real indication of how many points were actually made.
Good show everybody. Lucas did well. Only tweak is Trevor needs to hold his comments until all 4 have spoken and just reset the question between comments. Oh, and the green/white does not work well.
As long as Gannon stays healthy he will equal or even surpass Eagle, yes Eagle will still outsell in the disc department for a longer time... but Gannon is the Eagle of the current young generation, he will be one of the biggest names soon
If Eagle regains his sidearm after getting his shoulder surgically repaired he will be on another level above Gannon right now. Eagle before his injury was the top player not named Ricky Wysocki and Paul McBeth.
It is the middle of February, season hasn't started and MVP is selling a ton of Eagle stamped Envys (a 10 year old mold).
MVP signed BOTH ROTY too
They need to make an ace race style event and make the putting contest similar to Jomez putting game with fun different shots.
Split up the event. Start the year with a "Champions Exhibition event" and then do a mid year All-Stars event.
I agree that it's Paige, because she recently said she still wants that 6th, and she's viewed as the #1 contender to Kristin.
Great podcast guys. Basement hunter needs an Ethernet cable though for some better service
Totally agree with Gannon and his discs. I have no idea why they allowed him to actually go visit Eagle and buy his old discs? How does that help selling any new discs? And how an earth did he have the nerve to go buying discs from one of the biggest rivals?
This seems like disc golf “around the horn”
I tend to mumble when I talk. I’m aware of this, so when I record anything on video I force myself into speak more clearly. That being said, PLEASE ask Dustin to slow down when he talks.
Please change the Brody color to purple and dark purple font
Hot pick score board for Brodie next week
I don’t understand the hate for the annual all star event. I get the timing would make more sense towards the end of each season, but other than that it’s an event that’s fun to watch and players enjoy to play. Live and let live you know? If you don’t want to watch don’t watch. Sometimes I feel like y’all just want to be critical just to be critical lol I get that’s your job, but that’s also where it gets “tabloid”
As far as the info and format, I went to the DGPT website and found everything in a blog article in 10sec -it seems the article was posted a week ago too so it’s not like it’s hard to find if you cared enough to know where to look.
The interview with Calvin and Isaac on Tour Life was misleading because Missy came on and knew all that was going on, seems to me they just might need to open their emails and read them. I also get they were asked to be on late- so they weren’t prepared for the questions. No hate just an observation.
And finally - Brodie been salty about this event from day 1. Not sure what that’s about maybe him not being invited hurt him or something but he hasn’t said anything positive about the event at all. Consider putting as much attention on your game as you do with this event and maybe you can deny the all star invite yourself next season.
Ranking Foundation podcasts even though no one asked
1. Griplocked
2. The Banter
3. The off-season
4. The Preview Show
5. TourLife (zoom sucks)
6. Debate night
7. Trevor Staub show
8. In the Bag
9. Plastic addict (never watched)
1. Tour Life. 2. Debate Night. The rest are mid.
Trevor please stop commenting after every person speaks. It takes away from the show. i could see summarizing after each round. Maybe instead of rambling on your own opinion, use the content the person just said to set up a debate between another person. If you want to debate, you should be a contestant.
Hunter being gifted the win once again by his employee Trevor. 😮 im totally shocked.....
Let’s go 🎉
Timer should be 45-60 seconds. Not trying to listen to short stories. Also part of debating is proving someone else is wrong. Need more attacks on opinions to make this fun.
Lucas came to play.
Brodies scoreboard should definitely be Red with Green numbers and I think everyone will be on board 👀
Brodie - wear your glasses! We can all read it!
I’m old
Can read it sure, but it WAS difficult to read.
@@mikethomas5451 Foundation boys confirmed ageists!?!?
Is Lucas in a witness protection program, what's up with the lighting on that guy
Literally had to check if my settings were on 2x when Dustin started talking. Damn… slow down bro.
I’m not sure if it happens a lot, but I think that scripts should be banned from the show. I’m not gonna name name’s, but at least one person’s round couldn’t have sounded more like they were reading off of a script. Great show nonetheless!
It was his first time on, he was probably nervous, and he brought some really good points, I would cut him some slack.
Lucas was awesome but get that man some better Wifi
lol. Brodie got two points. Trevor really doesn’t like his takes.
Trevor sucks, always jumpin down Brodie’s throat when Brodie is just trying to make a point. It’s obvious the two don’t mesh, super noticeable in Off-Season this year. I’ll just watch Tour Life from now on. That show rocks anyway. I bought Tour Life merch just to stick it to Trevor. Hunter still cool though
They were just messing around man, it’s not that serious
Lime green AND WHITE 😂
make brodies color gray
Yeeee
Lucas with a potato camera and reading word for word from his notes.
It almost seemed that way, but it was quality stuff and decently delivered. I’ll let the new guy slide the first time. Better to be over prepared for a debut then fall flat and ask for another try.
Ah Lucas’s point where we can reconnect with our favorite player…. Nope I can’t see Paul Mcbeth(he wasn’t even invited to play… wasn’t cuz of his injury) play before the first season….. my 2nd favorite player… Brodie smith… nope he’s not there…. Lucas made a great point!
Where is "offseason"? I think there is room for these to both exist. The stories on "off" need telling! My vote goes for both great pods. If it matters, call it "the in season"
Soooo, you didn’t watch any off season’s?
Fist.
Can we please get rid of Dustin
Why?
What? He’s great and well spoken