Magnets vs Non Mag Slotcar Racing - By Slotcar Ltd. NZ
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2014
- Lets have a look at the difference between racing slotcars with and without magnets and time some runs to see how we go! More info online at www.slotcar.co.nz
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I agree completely. Racing with less magnetic traction causes lower speeds, less wear and tear, and more fun!
Replace the plastic wheels with light weight aftermarket ones and go with glued and trued aftermarket tires/tyres will make your non magnet car even faster!
@@DrDiff952 that is how I won back-to-back championships in the mid 1970s. I was the only guy in the slot car club who was running aluminum set screw wheels with silicone tires. Good Times!
Awesome video my friend, thanks for sharing. I've never seen anyone race without magnets, so much better in my opinion.
Great video, I wish there was more informative videos on slot car racing like this one. Thanks
This ISN'T informative! He's a persuader. Not your friend. You DON'T even get to choose the colour of your car! The cars are PERFECT out of the box. That's a FACT! It's NOT to be questioned ever! Racing is about EXCLUDING PEOPLE so you end up with 1 winner! The race track is designed to exclude 99% of the drivers from winning! this guy is telling you to CONSUME AND DESTROY your investment while HE makes money from HIS investment.
Racing without magnets is real racing. Magnets turn it into a really fast 'train set' in my opinion.
+VintageSlotCarRacing well said sir
BINGO !!
Franz Nachod
VintageSlotCarRacing
Soo true!!!
This is how I feel about modern HO slot cars. Bring back the T-Jets! That said, you 1:32 guys with magnets are nowhere near the levels of ridiculous that HO has achieved. I won't even mention 1:24, those guys have had the fun completely sucked out of them. I guess magnets are supposedly trying to replicate downforce because that's difficult to achieve with aerodynamics on such a small model. The one major flaw is that aerodynamic downforce isn't available when the car is stationary of travelling slow.
Very interesting video! Thanks a lot for that great video!
Excellent video! Thanks for the tips
great video, Ive driven myself nuts with my Carrera Mclaren but finally after this video shes going sweet, hi from Te Awamutu wish we had a track here :(
Brilliant video. Thank you and top job!
Well done ! Always good to go over basics and also pick up new tips along the way. I do it with drums after 60 years.
I love a drivers car and would rather have the car tuned, as you have done, with sanded proper tires. As for magnets ? Only if I have to.. Nothing like coming out of a turn sideways and down the straight, fast and successfully !
Cheers, Franz *glass half full*
Thanx. Nice video and Clear explantation.
I bought a 1:32 track acouple of years ago. I had not raced slotcars since 1970s (no magnets). I Could not figure out why the cars slowed down so fast when I let up on the trigger. I finally thought to take out the magnets in one car and it made all the difference! Better control going into a curve, and faster excelleration leaving.
Well done. Great primer for those just starting out with slot cars of any type. :)
Thanks! Let's hope some people give it a go.
we made our own track on wooden planks and milled it out with a
milling machine. so nog magnet strips on the track. the strips are made from a cooper tape. it's much more challeging then a scalectrix or carrera track. The selfmade track goos much much faster we don't really move the magnets out or car for the wheight because the speed on that track and the weight keeps the cars in a good ballance it drifts out a little bit depends from car to car. But i suggest you try to get your slot cars on proffesional selfmade track it's 10times more fun
Good Video. We can also see, if we remove the magnets, we need shoulders on the curves... ;-)
Awesome info!! Thank's
Great video, thanks. I've been toying with the idea of having a class of cars with no magnets.. Mostly older style cars. The oil made a big difference! How often do u need to do that? I was thinking it would be a fun option to do the tape with pit stops too
Nice
Great job
I just got my first track today. The tips you had in your video help a lot. Thank you :)
You actually just got your first track 2 years ago! Not today! You're talking to me now! In 2018. You're wrong on the other stuff you said too!
@@dreyn7780 You're a special kind of idiot.
@@multres2794 you just got reported to the authority.
@@dreyn7780 Oh no, not "The Authority", how am I ever gonna escape "The Authority"? You sure got me good
Personally i like to have lots of wd-40 on my tires. As you drive it gets spread out around the track and as you go it sticks better and soaks in as you drive, sort of like glue on your tires.
Since my track gets dusty very quickly and I can't bother cleaning it regularly, I usually leave the front magnet in place. I agree, it's more fun than driving with both magnets in place. I disagree with the "more challenging" part though. It's a common misconception that cars in general (not only slot cars) were easier to control, when they had more grip. This is only true when you drive them well below their limit. When you are at the edge of what a car can do, the more overall grip you have, the sharper the limit will be, because: a) things happen quicker and you have less time to react and b) the dropoff in grip when you pass the limit is more severe.
In my opinion, this applies to slot cars as well. Without a magnet, when you go past the limit, the car will gently start to slide its backend out, and you have plenty of time to react and to keep the drift under control. With all magnets installed, the margin between you controlling a drift and your car flying through the air and landing 4 meters off track is very slim.
By removing the magnets, you make the cars slower and easier to control. This can be more fun, especially because it leads to better racing since you don't need to stop the race every 5 seconds, when somebodys car has left the track. The driving itself gets less thrilling and less challenging though.
Thks for sharing!
slotcarz,I recently got back into slots,the first time with 1/32 I got a nice evolution set in box with cars,a Camaro and GTO I also just bought a 1/32 scalectrix Ford Cortina,at a deal to try out,are all scalectrix 1/32 cars slightly smaller than 1/32 carerra cars ? and no polarity switching on a scalectrix ?
Was a kid in the 70's and had a polistill slot car set with no magnets and it was so much better. The speed was more to scale and you had to drive them. After a while you could just blip the throttle and get the back end to twitch mid corner and knock your opponent off or block them passing 🤣. The racing was slower but so much closer. Can't see the attraction to hyper fast cars that are glued to the track and are just a blurr
thax very much
You cant compare the 2 times when the magnet best lap time was taken before any of the modifications were made
when did they start adding magnets, i don't remember them from my youth
Around the mid 1990's from my experience. But, back then there wasn't really communication across the globe, so it could have been earlier. It was a sales pitch in the 90's for the new cars. Lets face it, the electric engine uses magnets inside, so, they ALL have magnets.
I always race without magnets, a lot more fun and challenge. I have Revell tracks with shoulders, then you can encrease speed out of the curves and make a nice drift on the straights
Could you please do a review of Toranas , fords ...awesome vids ....cheers 🍻
thanks
Our slot car club racing is non digital, 4 lanes of racing and the magnets have to be taken out. I am not a fan of magnets. I find the racing to be much more challenging and enjoyable without magnets.
Hallo! Tell me how many players can participate on your rennbahn simultaneously in the digital 132 system? Is it possible to increase the number of players to 20 or 24? What additional equipment do I need to install? Please write in more detail. Thank you for the answer. Sincerely, Alexander.
Would using Tarzan's grip on the tyre's work?
Excellent. More like driving.
It's not just the slower corner speeds that result in less damage to the cars. When you barely exceed the traction limits of a magnet car, it deslots and hits the wall. When you barely exceed the traction limits of a no-mag car, it slides out a bit, and you keep going. Zero damage, and the racing continues. You get visual feedback as the car approaches the limit. With a magnet car, there is no visual feedback until the car deslots and hits the wall. The sliding causes you to lose time, so you learn to try to keep the car from sliding.
What type of glue for the rear tires?
what kind of track is this? I'm thinking about getting one for my house. awesome track btw.
Looks like Carrera track to me.
Perfect video, exactly what I was looking for!
Without magnets seems a lot more fun. Not sure if it's better to still keep the front magnet or just take them all out.
You're an ego maniac then! Cause this vid is deeply flawed. You're well on your way to hating this hobby and having NO friends! These companies DON'T even allow YOU to choose the colour of your car! That's evil behaviour!
HELPFUL
ty i bought a set for my son and the cars came damaged this helps a lot
Very interesting 🤔 !👍👍😎🇺🇸
what about adding weight to make it hold better?
Adding the aprons would help a little too.
Wd40 isn't oil. It's actually a decreaser.
Much better without magnets, the oldest clubs around Britain ban magnets. Nothing quite like leaving the braking till the last split second, getting the tail out and powering back on around the corner to leave the corner at a higher speed with a little fishtailing down the straight.
You actually have to drive the car, and if you don't get it right and get that tail out with the power back on, the car will just roll out at the slower speed.
As for lap times, once you master the corners, won't make much difference. As for losing the weight of the magnet, a little piece of lead in the right place can be rather effective. But you have to make sure the car will still tail out on the corners.
Plus you can power slide
i think u could have pushed it way faster though with the magnets just sayng but no magnets seems pretty fun
It DOESN'T SEEM like fun. You've missed the whole basic reason FOR these things. You've made the decision to ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR LIFE so that you LIVE A LIFE WITH THE OBJECT. You'll be beginning a NEW LIFE which ONLY YOU can live. It's YOU with YOUR OBJECT. You live your life and at the end of your life, you report back to human kind, what you experienced! Living your life. You've got it all wrong! You don't think and behave like a BUYER. You don't even think for yourself! Take control of your life and stop being persuaded by the massive population!
First off It looked like more fun with no magnets secondly the grip was better after you applied oil? I'm guessing it acted as a cleaner more so than a lubricant.
+wallbreaker2 The oil also has the effect of softening the rubber, which improves the traction.
More fun? NO! It's more fun when you let the cars designer actually design the car and YOU DON'T! Buy the cars, drive them around, DON'T LISTEN TO ANY NON-company person, buy more cars, DON'T CHANGE ANY OF THEM! And after 25 years you'll get experience and realise each car is different and THEY DO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING! So, STOP PUTTING OIL on the tyres! STOP LISTENING to gossip! Stop letting the size of the population influence you! These cars are FAMOUS! Don't destroy the fame aspect of your purchase! Don't oil tyres! Don't change the cars! Just drive them and buy more! Drive them! Buy more! Eventually you'll learn what they've built for you and you'll love them even more! A collector buys 3 of each model car they want. 3 cars! Not 1! A professional collector buys 6 cars of the same model! Not 1 car!
Dreyn 77, what's wrong with you? Are you drunk or something? And please don't shout.
@@phildoctor2461 shout? He's typing........... plus i agree with him
Hi billy billy, you're right. He's just TYPING! :-)) And about the cars: removing the magnets (slotcars are no trains) is the only thing I do.
Unfortunately, if you race w/o magnets, you HAVE to have to purchase the BORDERS...
Otherwise, the car will pitch out and and drop a tire and CRASH the car.... And the 90 degree corners are horrible IMHO... because it is sooo easy to loose it on that corner.... Funny how the ONLY flat corners that Carrera has in it's Track sets are ALL the sharpest corner track you can get... I wouldn't buy a track set ever again because of it...
I have placed silicone tires on my cars and put weight on them as well (obviously pulled the magnets..) worked great for the 1/32 scale but is HORRIBLE for the 1/24 scale Carrera cars... they are flopin all over the place, and causing some major damage....
Thank you for the video though....
Isn't it all just personal preference?
I have that screwdriver set lol
i don't know what you boyz are saying. i have ran slot cars since 1973. the magnet added to the cars was the best thing that ever happened to slot cars. i have raced non magnet 1/32 with ballast weigh and cars with magnets. magnet cars are way faster and more fun.
When you crash with a magneto car it means a hard crash
My opinion, And simple and questionable as: purpose of mags, to set tyre compound tractionable to track surface. more press less acceleration and heat to motor. drifting? whats the purpose? race on timber tracks with fish tyres. plastic tracks are made for mags and more a headache to setup. always my opinion. great vid anyway.
Sure, so they build a product they think is perfect and IT IS. the problem is, the customer thinks they know everything, the shop sales people do too! And the perfect mass produced limited editions, get destroyed by the ego maniacs! Remind yourself, you DIDN'T go to any boardroom meetings! You also didn't get any correspondence asking you to ADD YOUR INPUT into the cars design when they are being designed! You're NOT A SLOT CAR DESIGNER! You DON'T stand on their shoulders and reinvent cars! Your cars have NO CREDIBILITY, NO FUTURE INVESTMENT, and you'll spend the rest of your life explaining to people what you've done to the perfect product from the brand. Your car has ZERO FAME AND CREDIBILITY as soon as you modify the item. You MUST therefore STOP USING the old name for the car you changed. Realise that when you BREAK THE SEAL opening the car from the plastic box, you've RUINED the investment for the future at that moment. So, STOP BEING EGO MANIAC consumer destroyers, and be men! Your modified car MAKES NO SENSE and its worth Jack Sh*t! Nothing!
Dreyn 77 These are plastic toy cars that are clearly made to be ran and tinkered with. These are not anything to invest in, most are worth maybe $30 more after 15 years. It’s a piss poor way to try to make money. Just because you’re not smart enough to realize these things stop trying to ruin the fun for others. Enjoy it however you like.
@@dancarlos1216 no, in 2020 that, “enjoy how you like” thing has died.
Buyers buy 3 cars of the same model, every time they buy. Thrifty people ruin their life and everyone else’s life too. They cause the factory to go out of business. How many businesses have to die before you guys say you’re sorry?
Collectors buy 5 or 6 of each model.
Middlemen just ruin everything they get their hands on. They’ve been insane for at least the last 30 years.
No concibo el slot con imanes, sin imanes es mucho más divertido y realista.
panzie
l prefer mini z it real driving this car on track
mini z rocks yo u got anything for sale?
Assolutamente no ai magneti !
no magnets is best
yes the fun is stopping a race every 30 inches to reset the derailed car, not very fun.
Never had magnetic cars when I was a kid......you went fast and slow, take that curve too fast and wipe out....def more skills in non mag cars and more fun
its so anoying to always bring the car back on the track. For me at least......im 40 and dont want to stand up go there take it back and go back to my position.....Especialy if im playing with the kids