You know what’s crazy about this? You can actually justify the Genocide Route with the same argument of the No Mercy Route. How? Well, let’s say you fall into an underground full of monsters, and the first thing you meet is a flower trying to kill you, saying that LOVE makes you stronger. After Toriel’s encounter, you are left alone, and monsters are already trying to kill you on the spot. You defend yourself, and accidentally kill one… only to realize that you “leveled up”, like in some sort of video game, and got stronger. You will by then realize that it is indeed “kill or be killed”, like how Flowey says… Because an entire SPECIES is trying to kill you while you just want to go back home. You will start to search to kill them yourself at one point after struggle, knowing that it’s either you, or them. Your feelings about killing will numb, your coldness will grow, but it’s all to survive. Killing Toriel… well, in your perspective, Toriel might as well be a crazy monster woman and she could be lying, putting on a facade like Flowey did. Yes, killing Papyrus is uncalled for no matter how you say it, but you’re still trying to survive, and he is pure EXP. What’s more, when Toriel describes Asgore… that’s just more reason to keep on killing! Because you need to grow strong enough to defeat Asgore, because you don’t want to stay, but you also don’t want to end up like the other humans before you. Everyone is trying to kill you, and they are surprised and scared when they realize that you’re going to try to kill them back? And let’s not forget Sans. He judges you for killing everyone, but has he judge them for trying to kill you? Nope. Undyne? She’s even PROUD of trying to kill you. Mettaton? Not even a question. Muffet? Smiles while making you suffer. Flowey? A hypocrite, a hypocrite who’s surprised by what he’s encouraged. Asgore? Well, he’s a special case given that he’s trying to both do it for his kingdom, and also for his dead kids… he clearly regrets it, but by the point you encounter him… you already are LV 20. You don’t care anymore, IT IS WHAT IT IS. And let’s say you are somehow aware of the different routes, so, let me ask you a question. Between a GOD OF (HYPER)DEATH, an eldritch abomination, or a funny bone man… which would you rather fight?
i think this only applies if frisk doesn't have infinite respawns/resets, where 1 death would be the end of it all, so they would have to minimize the chances of dying as much as possible by killing all including the innocent monsters
@@weedGato I mean, if they DO have infinite lives, it’s still a very harsh situation. After all, who’s to say that they won’t feel the pain of their death, since they will continue living anyways? Like, most of the time, people tend to die painlessly… but when Frisk can just revive through their own determination, nobody can say that they don’t experience the full pain? Like, imagine getting impaled by Undyne’s spears in the head and heart… only to be in a black void while feeling and remembering the feeling of it. That can drive anyone crazy. Not to mention that how would they even find out that they have a limited amount of lives, without dying first?
@@glitchzer0o83 i still don't think that justifies killing random civilians like the ones in the ruins or snowdin, just the ones that are actively hunting them down/want to kill them intentionally like the royal guard members And asgore
@@glitchzer0o83 but i think what you're saying makes sense, i probably would do the same in that situation, its still pretty selfish and dishonorable to take advantage of non combatant civilians but then again now that i've put more thought into it, they're doing the same thing to the player so i think i'm starting to agree with you.
Like, how many tries would it take someone like a regular human to beat two kind of gods, as opposed to just surviving a skeleton until he runs out of energy?
Love the note at the end that Frisk has no intention to come back even though we know the monsters WILL call because they fully believe what they did is the right thing and going back would only be undoing everything they worked for
Humans are not innocent either Humans started a battle of cruelty Monsters did what had to be done And we're kicked back down by the same hypocrites In this world, it truly is kill or be killed
@@Gen0ration9k Definitely agree that the humans were the assholes who struck first against what was till then a very peaceful race out of fear and warmongering However I disagree with the Kill or Be Killed sentiment, that is what motivated the humans to strike in the first place and the humans who fell in the Underground were completely innocent
I love the way your no mercy songs fit together( particularly Hall of Judgement, Angel of judgement and The Final Judgement). In Hall of Judgement you have Frisk barely containing the rage and wrath felt for all they’ve dealt with and seen which moves over to Angel of Judgement where those feelings finally boil over, and there is no plan on stopping them. Then, after finally letting it all out just a step from finally getting home, Flowey makes the same choice to get in Frisks way and use he souls. There is nothing but a tired and worn DETERMINATION left, and Frisk is already too far to turn back. Absolutely love it :)
It does! Vengeance Clover goes after Monsterkind for the sake of obtaining the souls of the children who fell before them, out of a vengeance, and a want for Judgment instead of Justice (Mercy) which results in them finding any reason to attack and kill the monsters who stand in their way, like how this version of Frisk rationalises killing Sans and Asgore, and Flowey in this song.
If there were to be a continuation of this series, I'm personally curious as to what would happen if Frisk were *forced* to reset again, whether it be simply dying on the surface by any variety of means, being pushed into it by Chara (whether for doing a pacifist route or a genocide route, I dont think the ghost is going to be particularly happy with any sort of middle road) or even simply guilt for the more accidental deaths on Frisk's road. If one did happen, what road would Frisk take the second time around, I wonder? Simply put, I love this idea for the character, and its really telling if the first reaction to seeing a concept is wanting to poke it more and see more come out of it.
Probably genocide just out of anger maybe even a genocide speedrun I mean they finally got a end they were satisfied with and having that taken away would piss them off
It’s so cool to see a neutral frisk song, neutral routes are usually never done and esp frisk songs during the route. Though interesting note, is this a true pacifist turned neutral frisk? They are aware of Floweys truth, an interesting concept and likely a in between pacifist to genocide frisk whose still exploring everything. Yet then those final lyrics suggest otherwise.
Frisk's knowledge largely comes from their overlap with Chara. Because it was a Flowey related song, though, I wanted to lean a little on the wall with a 'how did she know that?'
Im so glad these popped up in my recommended! I've listened to the whole trilogy for like an hour now and its really amazing. Not only is each song just really fun to listen too, but its a perspective I've never thought of. I really like this angry frisk. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing whats next!
i just listened to all 3 made so far despite having almost completely distanced myself from Undertale, and you know what? i actually wanna give this hypothetical run a try, and actually launch up Undertale again for the 1st time since 2019. i like the concept a lot, and i think it'll be really cool to actually put myself in the shoes of the character. initially starting off sparing, but eventually getting more violent as the same monsters persistently kill Frisk, and more importantly, begin killing, starting slow, but becoming more and more frequent as they come across the various remains of items owned by previous victims of the underground, as they hear the stories of previous children, and even as they learn about the monsters goals to escape: using Frisk as a sacrifice to take the power of their soul, learning they've done the same to others who've arrived. all of this mixing together to fuel the need for Vengeance, as it's not longer just about survival or getting back home, but eliminating those who actively take it upon themselves to bring harm to others who are just trying to survive in an environment that is so hostile toward even a child. this would eventually turn the run into purely no mercy, but i'm curious where the lack of mercy will truly start. i don't think they'd go as far as killing Papyrus though. guy literally professes his need to "capture" you, and doesn't even seem to realize what's really going on. he even goes as far as to put you in a cage when beaten, rather than finishing you off like the others do. but hey, i guess i'll figure things out when i get to that point, see what frisk probably would think by the point they reach him
My guess is no later than Undyne. Undyne is pretty callous about it all, and then spells out that the six children before were killed. Then in Hotland there's all the deadly traps and the killer robot (although this is all fake, Frisk wouldn't know it while playing through it). It'd be interesting to see if something might motivate a more no mercy style playthrough before Undyne though.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Update: No Mercy indeed started because of Undyne, though a bit of killing started slightly before the battle. much of the playthrough "characterization" was figuring out how these monsters ended up down there, trying to figure out who Asgore is, and why they were hunting humans. during that time, i did some sparing, running when things were bad. it was only nearing the end of Waterfall when Frisk comes across the historical records discussing the war, the barrier, and the 7 human souls. by that point there were no deaths, with the closest experiences to death being with Toriel and Papyrus, who both avoided a killing blow, so fleeing and sparing was still the primary goal. death 1 occurred sometime shortly after reading that record on the wall about the souls. i'd been dodging the attacks well enough that i hadn't needed to heal in a while. it had been so long in fact, that i forgot about healing items as a function and died as Aaron flexed in. when i came close to another death at the hands of Aaron, it was then decided that any monster who killed in a previous timeline would be killed themselves. these events would have likely started earlier if i didn't have a habit of constantly saving after every battle from my old playthroughs of Undertale. anyway, it was sometime shortly after that where i eventually battled against Undyne truth be told- i was always terrible in the Undyne fight, so when i forgot my *healing items* (i was selling stuff in Temmie Village, didn't wanna accidentally sell my healing items) i was pretty much doomed to repeat that for a while as i initially refused to go back. that was not fun. at least the Temmie Armor was cheap when i finally decided to head back to the Temmie Village. after buying it i went back into the battle- with healing items as backup, and then killed her. yeah, unlike the hints from earlier (that still painted a pretty clear picture of what was going on, even if based on conjecture), Undyne was very blunt about it, and hypocritical with her dogmatic patriotism, declaring how everyone in the underground wants a 7th human dead so they can escape. this immediately ties back to prior comments in passing from other monsters saying how they're going to be free soon, and are excited to see the outside. it's by this point that there's really little to no hope for the underground and it's citizens. if other people as dangerous as Undyne are really willing to go out of their way to kill so many people, only to escape and probably kill more, it's clear another war has already started without the surface even being aware of it. a war starting in the shadows, one that already has casualties, all of which appeared to be children. so, In Conclusion: Undyne might have caused No Mercy to truly start, but it was a mix of everything encountered prior that would lead to the decision. Undyne was like a person in a room flooding with gasoline as they stand knee deep in it with 50 other people. the gasoline was rising to meet with an open flame, but Undyne decided to make it into a speedrun and pulled out a flamethrower. it was pretty clear that the path of No Mercy was going to start at some point soon, Undyne just turned up the dial from 1% to 500% like she's trying to cook spaghetti in her kitchen.
@@nathanfish1998 Undyne really is the best excuse for a No Mercy run before full resets get involved. It makes me think Toby added her on purpose to support that possibility. With how short Undertale is, it can be hard to reach the boiling point naturally in a single run without her, I find.
Wow just wow, I love this so much, the singing, the writing, the instrumental, just everything about it. I'll probably check out more of your songs now!
Determination tainted with justice, it had become judgement, for justice could not be made in these dark halls, when all claim to be innocent, but refuse to claim guilt where it can be found, there is only one option left to insure pain is paid in pain. A Frisk who carried the spirit of Clover, even as his soul was held elsewhere, and could take down even Chara. (AKA the AU where Frisk was friends with Clover directly, and KNEW why they had gone down, only to learn what happened to their friend, as nobody repeats their name.)
a unique take on the neutral route ( no mercy vers ), nice song, i would suggest advertising your socials (like spotify or bandicamp or soundcloud) if you have any in the description of the videos since these songs are nice and lots of people like them
I wonder what Frisk would think of Mettaton, considering how he is trying to stop a potential war between Monsters and Humans. His motivation seems to line up with Frisk's ideals, and he does explain what he is.
Great song! I don't think I heard Frisk this angry before - it's rather nice! It's a rarity to have a song for neutral routes, so this is even more amazing. And I love that their anger is also for previous fallen children! It's also a very fun contrast between Flowey who started to see all this as a game and Frisk who feeds their anger and doesn't try to spare, but seemingly only when someone else starts a fight. The drawing is also very fitting - the dust motes, the way Frisk stares. (Though I do believe No Mercy Route _is_ just another name for Genocide Route, and the Neutral Routes are everything in the between - as long as you don't hunt down monsters and don't free Underground. At least I've seen them being used like that.)
@@СарраКарагозян That is because none of the routes are technically officially named. It's just what fandom calls them. Early on 'no mercy' was used for 'never spare' when people were experimenting with different neutral routes. When people started doing neutral less, the names of those routes became used less, and genocide snatched up the name for when people thought it was tacky to use the word 'genocide'. This Frisk technically is not a true no mercy route, because Frisk only becomes more jaded as time goes on, but 'no mercy' is the best descriptor IMO.
There’s some difference- but if you don’t know the map, or AFK a lot, a No Mercy Route can easily turn into a Geno Route. It’s just a matter of how many encounters
I intend to do that! Or at least a fancy slideshow. But I'm starting with Hall of Judgment and I'm going to judge the difficulty of doing the whole trilogy from that. (I was going to debut them with that but quickly realized that would delay them by a lot)
One can understand the motive of revenge between Humans and Monsters, and mutual hatred resembles the situation with "Battlestar Galactica 2003". Each side has something to avenge on the other side and each side is hypocritical, on the part of the Monsters, Sans is a bright hypocrite (people, do you like the sin of hypocrisy?!). Frisk's position can also be understood. In her position, it remains only to defend and even kill, otherwise Frisk will be killed, and then the last stage of mutual hatred will follow: the mutual destruction of Humans and Monsters. If both sides do not admit their sins, mistakes and do not learn to forgive each other, then after mutual hatred from both peoples, only texts in textbooks and bones with ashes in museums will remain.
Ah that is a blast from the past, BSG 2003. A smart answer, though. When the monsters convince themselves they're innocent completely and had absolutely no part or responsibility in the war, while hyping themselves up for generations to go on a mass killing themselves, it can only end in more tragedy.
this is such a good fucking song. I have listen to so many songs and this has gotta be in one of the top spots due to the personality in it. there's a lot of good undertale songs but my favorite are the ones with deep character to them like this one.
Im sorry, I didn't know I stumbled upon the god of undertale music My gift to thee is a follow and a like to top it off. Im glad to be graced with your presence. 🙏
WHOA I just posted this. The next song I will make, if I do, will definitely be Undyne, because Undyne is the moment that Frisk becomes aware of what happened to the other children.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit nice! I actually discovered your channel while looking for music for my broken hero/villain playlist to listen too while gaming and let me tell you the other two on your channel did not disappoint.
Thought I'd be waiting for the third great song you pushed these out quickly and I can tell you put work and care into these really love your idea for frisk but I an curios as to what would happen next on this "adventure" will frisk stay true to their word and not come back will they be forced to come back? I guess we'll find out soon hope to see more from you. And I wonder, sorry to tap into Au's but what a weird Horror tale this would make especially with that grueling talk frisk and sans had can't imagine what a difference that would put on his personality maybe just more depressed? idk, actually wouldn't mind hearing an Aliza song I don't think many or any of them really exist but either way hope to hear more Undertale songs, Undertale related, or even inspired songs can't wait to see what "route" you choose. Cya until then defiantly a Like and Sub Good job.
I waited until all three songs were done to start releasing them to ensure I could get them out in a timely manner, that's why. I have considered doing a song about Frisk after the barrier, but in all likelihood I'll do earlier songs, like Frisk v Undyne, instead. I don't recognize the name Aliza, is that one of the monsters that Alphys experimented on?
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Aliza is not entirely Undertale related why you probably didn't get it at first or maybe not knowing of many Au's etc. But Aliza is the protagonist that you play as for Horrortale the story after frisk fell and didn't reset in a neutral run.
Love it, these songs have impressed me greatly. Going to subscribe in case you make more. If you are taking suggestions, why not do a song about the battle against Undyne? This version of Frisk seems to have some sort of justice, and Undyne has her own. Thought it'd be an interesting idea, and with Undyne being the most determined to get the last human soul, though it'd make a good pairing overall. Edit: By the way, genocide route used to be called No Mercy. They actually are the same thing, at least used to be. I recognize how you change the meaning or it's current meaning, not complaining or anything, I actually like it and it makes this interpretation of Frisk very interesting. Good work, hope there's more.
Out of all of the beautiful Undertale songs you’ve composed, this one has to be my favorite. I’ve been wondering if any of them are available to listen to on Spotify?
This song actually came top 2 of the undertale fan songs I've heard. I love having another point of view than pacifist or genocide and these lyrics with such a music make an amazing combo !
@@Sefanacluba uh…I asked this channel and they said this Frisk just reset when they died (though it sounds even weaker than Flowey) Plus this Frisk said they wouldn’t come back so…No
Ощутил ли ты всю их боль? Их ярость, их страх? С этими украденными ДУШАМИ Ты думашь, я послушаю тебя? БАГОСТЬ и ЖЕСТОКОСТЬ Ты вообще понимаешь Что все это значит? Моя жизнь была сурова, полна крови и боли, Удушья от пыли за мной идущей Ты думал, я сделала это просто ради веселья? Я никогда не просила этой битвы, не я начинала убийства, Но их предсказания сбываются не завися от меня Каждый взмах моего клинка исходит из БЛАГОСТИ, За невинных, что страдали от вашего безумства Я найду свой собственный путь домой, пусть и пылью занечённый, С РЕШИМОСТЬЮ моей вынесу приговор, что должна Я могу быть ТЕРПИМОЙ, Я буду НАСТОЙЧИВОЙ, Убить или быть убитым, говоришь ты, Просто игра, что ты играешь Каждое движение мое, каждый шаг мой изучаешь ты Но никогда не был ты на месте моем, не чувствовал душевной боли Находя разбитые останки каждой памятной находки. Я не хочу пустых оправданий Их руки, омытые по локоть крови И я не буду слышать твое безумство Если тебе нужно, чтобы они все исчезли, Чего беспокоиться о пешке? Называй меня монстром Называй их мучеником Называй меня слабой Называй меня дурой Неважно, сколько ДУШ ты украдёшь Я всё равно прорежу тебя насквозь Я становлюсь монстром, от которого им ужасно? Или я СПРАВЕДЛИВОСТЬ, что они заслуживают, разве не ясно? Моя ЧЕСТНОСТЬ мне все еще важна Они говорят мне выбрать МИЛОСТЬ Когда МЕСТЬ им положена Ты говоришь мне УБИТЬ И бежать в страхе, когда делаю это Не смей судить меня Когда даже не можешь понять меня Ты украл их души, как твой отец до тебя, И поэтому наказание остается прежним Я никогда не просила этой битвы, не я начинала убийства, Но их предсказания сбываются не завися от меня Каждый взмах моего клинка исходит из БЛАГОСТИ, За невинных, что страдали от вашего безумства Я найду свой собственный путь домой, пусть и пылью занесённый, С РЕШИМОСТЬЮ моей вынесу приговор, что должна Я могу быть ТЕРПИМОЙ, Я буду НАСТОЙЧИВОЙ, Это мой выбор, моя месть, мой приговор Я назад не поверну, не сброшу, и сожалеть не стану Этот павший ребенок не станет чьей-то пешкой Не стой, не жди моего прихода Я не приду на твою мольбу.
I see some people resonate with Frisk neutral route as "self-defence" and their anger with injustice and their own pains and deaths. Or "vengence" as Clover UTY. Here's my opinion after listening to all 3 songs so far (it may sound a lil bit unfair or be justified for monsters but i like pacifist most) - Idk how to say it in word but i mean...they even don't know fallen children before them...just...would they care for people they don't know to the point their ready to kill monsters? Though i can understand if they prefer their own kinds more than monsterkind...Just...how can A CHILD kill a living creature without hesitation while hearing their victims's cries and screams (and even not regret or bother to try to make a better decision while they CAN)?... Self-defense...well, not really necessary to kill them completely...just...monsters can be spared when their HP are lowed...or why don't they just simply FLEE from the battle (Yeah, when i didn't know how to pass the battle in the first playthrough, i also FLEE), i mean, it's not hard to avoid unecessary deaths in almost situations (especially when that's not mini bosses or bosses) (we could even FLEE from UNDYNE so...uh huh). They're angry for the pains and deaths they carried and want justice...But what's the reason for all deaths and pains from the first place? IT'S THE WAR STARTED BY HUMANITY! Monsters have already lost many lives in that war, they've lost their freedom and ultimately, the king's children, their last hopes were taken away by HUMANS again, WANT JUSTICE FOR HUMANS WHILE BRINGING PAINS FOR MONSTERS!? Who's hurt wanna hurt others. Just consider the number of lives, who lost more? monsters or humans?...Though I can understand they're just innocent children and that's not their faults to cause monsters's despairs, meanwhile, Asgore, who declared wars with humans is still there (even when he doesn't want to hurt anyone as he said). Well, everyone has their own reasons to justify their actions (even Flowey when he lost his best friend, his feelings and he also had to survive even he was dead and kill himself)...They all hurt others...and take the pains they bear as an excuse -(I feel it's like why True Pacifist is the true ending) At the very beginning, Frisk is taught how to spare monsters and avoid violence by Froggit NPCs and Toriel. Especially, Toriel is really nice and motherly to Frisk and she's also a monster, which would give Frisk a good impression with monsterkind. Then Papyrus and Sans, their both funny and act friendly and nicely with Frisk, make the human laugh, it's like to give Frisk better sight about monsters. Papyrus also adviced Frisk to be gentle toward Asgore and said the king was nice (though he doesn't know that wouldn't work, bruh) Then in waterfall, the history of monsters, humans, wars are written through the road Frisk goes, to convince them that monsters just do what they must to escape the Underhell. And Undyne is claimed "monsters's hero", try to help their kinds to reach their hopes and dreams and stay determined even after the damage she took in the battle. Plus, Undyne is papyrus's friend and he also wants Undyne and Frisk be friends. In their hangout, Undyne also tells Frisk not to hurt monsters before totally trusting and being Frisk's friend. Next, Mettaton...I admit he's pretty...annoying but he also said he just needed to take Frisk's soul and be well-known in the surface...i just mean he wouldn't hurt humanity (eh...but he hurt Frisk). In short, the game is likely created for Frisk to act pacifism and merciful due to the friendships the could have in their journey, starting with the lesson at the start and if they're perserved and determined with that belief, it's not easy to ruin that route -"Players": well i think i should mention this. The Undertale is about Frisk's journey, but it's also created to be a "game"...literally. I think the monsters attacked us during all encounters are likely game's mechanic...yeah, it's not like we could just only fight with minibosses and bosses and the others's monsters in areas is also a part of the game. Which mean, my theory is if that journey is in real and not created to be a game then...monsters in areas wouldn't really just want to beat and kill humans...just...see...we could FLIRT, JOKE, SING, ENCOURAGE,...to the OPPONENT RIGHT IN A BATTLE TO DEATH!? IS THAT EVEN A PROPER FIGHT? THAT ONLY CAN HAPPEN IF IT'S A GAME, BRUH! Or...like, Napstablook's battle...whatever the reason, his personality is not aggressive or malicious enough to ACTUALLY hurt or kill someone IN REAL, IT'S THE GAME MECHANIC...Well, i just mean that it's not like all monsters in areas would wanna beat Frisk in real, it's just the GAME rule (And almost monsters even don't know Frisk is human from the start, even royal guards...like...Dogamy, Dogaressa, RG01, RG02). And Sans's judgement is for Player more than for Frisk. I ensure that almost Players wouldn't think they're "in pain" or "dead" in the game, GAME OVER or loss is just the most basic things for a game; so it's accurate to say Player is cruel and not care about others in the game, do everything out of "curiousty". If that's not Player, an "anomaly" in this game then... yeah, Sans's judgement would be hilarious for Frisk is just a kid and self-defense is justified. (I even feel worse for Frisk in this situation, their a puppet for Players to abuse and they could die whenever without a chance to resist) Well...the "game" is pretty complicated, right? Honestly, everyone has their own reasons for their actions...but bringing your pains to kill someone, it's bad...yet, yeah, i'd admit that the world would never be fair for anyone. I...don't have right to judge or preach what's right or wrong. But hey, who's not gonna like the happy ending? If there's a way to be perfect, why not? (sorry if my English and grammar is not good or make you misunderstand)
The other commenter is right that this trilogy (and any other songs I make in this route) isn't about making a 'heroic' Frisk, but about a Frisk who sees themselves as the embodiment of justice and revenge for their own pain and that of their fallen. You can say 'you can spare all monsters if they get low enough health' but do you know what never happens outside of Toriel and Papyrus? The monsters sparing Frisk when she gets low HP. Frisk doesn't spare monsters because they don't spare her. And as for 'how can a child kill a monster', Frisk would ask right back 'how can a monster kill a child'. It can be easy to say the game sets you up to spare, but you weren't the one being cut in half by mr and msses doggo every time you messed up dodging.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit i mentioned that not every monsters would really wanna kill Frisk if that's not game, especially when they even don't know Frisk's a human from the start. And can't they flee right there?
@@MinhNguyễnNgọc-z7q I want to point out the "how could a child kill so easily thing" doesn't apply here.....i mean this frisk had died in about every conceivable way possible over and over and over and over and over again....most people would call an experience like that hell... anybody would snap and start killing after that and
I actually had bravery in it in a earlier draft because I wanted each of the souls slipped in there. But it was too bulky, so I snipped it down. Of all of them, I thought bravery was the most fitting to be removed, as the war is over and bravery has turned to fatigue.
Most likely, but not out of malice. Toriel is designed to be killed accidentally on your first run (if you just fight her and attempt to get her to the usual sparing range you accidentally do a critical hit). Frisk doesn't kill Papyrus, although they are already conflicted by the time they fight him, due to having died multiple times by then. Undyne is when they realize what the keepsakes they've been finding meant.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I really like this take on undertale because they go out of their way to tell you how harmless the monsters are even though you have non monsters throwing literal bombs at you. I
Frisk and Chara only interact on a genocide route, so it would be somewhat difficult for this Frisk to speak with them. I suspect Frisk would feel that Chara had become like the monsters in the end.
@@ThedarkbunnyrabbitI always viewed Chara as someone who would support Frisk killing those who killed them in a no mercy neutral run. Genocide is just genocide but the no mercy neutral is self defense
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit True but this is sorta a genocide- not fully..but their LV could awaken chara, and the extra boost through their determination after facing flowey just proves that it is possible, So why not? it would be interesting to see their differences and how both of them would interact against each other (After all, Chara has a huge hatred for mankind while frisk has a grudge against monsterkind, two sides of the same coin)
I admit that does sound like it could be an interesting debate, Chara hating humans and Frisk hating monsters, but I don't have a good hook for the song currently. I imagine it'd be something like Megalo Strikes Back. I do have a Chara song I'd like to do, which is a variant of Megalovania, but I haven't been able to get down lyrics I like yet.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Honestly it would be tricky to create a dialogue/song for them but megalo strikes back is a great option that might help with that, especially because of the metal vibe
@@deathc0ntent You flatter me. I am encouraged to work on other songs for this route from the support for these songs, but of course it will be a while. I don't want to rush them out and make something I'm not proud of.
I'm looking forward to it! Plus, if you ever need help with setting up a discord of sorts I would like to volunteer to help! Would love to meet a bunch of people and talk about UT!
Arguably, there are reasons to judge Toriel. She didn't actively go and try to fight Asgore, or shield the children on their journeys. But Frisk here wouldn't know that at the time she knew Toriel.
@@glitchedblazeowo That's correct. And that will be mentioned in the Toriel song, but it will have a different tone overall, because Frisk doesn't know as much.
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit thats fair! I do love your songs Keep up the good work And im mostly excited about papyrus and are you gonna do minibosses as well?
*The Master Crown™️! Frisk: So this power is a little too much huh? *It's power level! It's building up! Frisk: My soul... it's about to- (Massive explosion) (At Gaster's Room) *My final enemy! It's here! *CHECK Forgotten Queen Frisk HP: 12,300,000 ATK: 7,000,000 DEF: 35,000,000 Bio: One left... (*This world is beyond broken! It can't be fixed!)
probably not ai? the lyrics are too game specific, and i feel like the vocals could just be a vocaloid or a human voice with a shit ton of effects on it. edit: uh oh, it might be AI
the child named Frisk didn't exist in any route you could say they was exist after true pacifist route Because the Frisk named was only mention in true pacifist and hardmode.
You know what’s crazy about this? You can actually justify the Genocide Route with the same argument of the No Mercy Route. How? Well, let’s say you fall into an underground full of monsters, and the first thing you meet is a flower trying to kill you, saying that LOVE makes you stronger. After Toriel’s encounter, you are left alone, and monsters are already trying to kill you on the spot. You defend yourself, and accidentally kill one… only to realize that you “leveled up”, like in some sort of video game, and got stronger. You will by then realize that it is indeed “kill or be killed”, like how Flowey says… Because an entire SPECIES is trying to kill you while you just want to go back home. You will start to search to kill them yourself at one point after struggle, knowing that it’s either you, or them. Your feelings about killing will numb, your coldness will grow, but it’s all to survive. Killing Toriel… well, in your perspective, Toriel might as well be a crazy monster woman and she could be lying, putting on a facade like Flowey did. Yes, killing Papyrus is uncalled for no matter how you say it, but you’re still trying to survive, and he is pure EXP. What’s more, when Toriel describes Asgore… that’s just more reason to keep on killing! Because you need to grow strong enough to defeat Asgore, because you don’t want to stay, but you also don’t want to end up like the other humans before you. Everyone is trying to kill you, and they are surprised and scared when they realize that you’re going to try to kill them back? And let’s not forget Sans. He judges you for killing everyone, but has he judge them for trying to kill you? Nope. Undyne? She’s even PROUD of trying to kill you. Mettaton? Not even a question. Muffet? Smiles while making you suffer. Flowey? A hypocrite, a hypocrite who’s surprised by what he’s encouraged. Asgore? Well, he’s a special case given that he’s trying to both do it for his kingdom, and also for his dead kids… he clearly regrets it, but by the point you encounter him… you already are LV 20. You don’t care anymore, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
And let’s say you are somehow aware of the different routes, so, let me ask you a question. Between a GOD OF (HYPER)DEATH, an eldritch abomination, or a funny bone man… which would you rather fight?
i think this only applies if frisk doesn't have infinite respawns/resets, where 1 death would be the end of it all, so they would have to minimize the chances of dying as much as possible by killing all including the innocent monsters
@@weedGato I mean, if they DO have infinite lives, it’s still a very harsh situation. After all, who’s to say that they won’t feel the pain of their death, since they will continue living anyways? Like, most of the time, people tend to die painlessly… but when Frisk can just revive through their own determination, nobody can say that they don’t experience the full pain? Like, imagine getting impaled by Undyne’s spears in the head and heart… only to be in a black void while feeling and remembering the feeling of it. That can drive anyone crazy.
Not to mention that how would they even find out that they have a limited amount of lives, without dying first?
@@glitchzer0o83 i still don't think that justifies killing random civilians like the ones in the ruins or snowdin, just the ones that are actively hunting them down/want to kill them intentionally like the royal guard members And asgore
@@glitchzer0o83 but i think what you're saying makes sense, i probably would do the same in that situation, its still pretty selfish and dishonorable to take advantage of non combatant civilians but then again now that i've put more thought into it, they're doing the same thing to the player so i think i'm starting to agree with you.
Like, how many tries would it take someone like a regular human to beat two kind of gods, as opposed to just surviving a skeleton until he runs out of energy?
Love the note at the end that Frisk has no intention to come back even though we know the monsters WILL call because they fully believe what they did is the right thing and going back would only be undoing everything they worked for
Humans are not innocent either
Humans started a battle of cruelty
Monsters did what had to be done
And we're kicked back down by the same hypocrites
In this world, it truly is kill or be killed
@@Gen0ration9k
Definitely agree that the humans were the assholes who struck first against what was till then a very peaceful race out of fear and warmongering
However I disagree with the Kill or Be Killed sentiment, that is what motivated the humans to strike in the first place and the humans who fell in the Underground were completely innocent
@@Gen0ration9k Did the murder of six children really had to be done? Mind you, one of them was KINDNESS
@@Gen0ration9kDid the murder of 6 children really had to be done? Mind you, one of them was KINDNESS
@@Gen0ration9kDid the murder of 6 children really had to be done? Mind you, one of them was KINDNESS
I love the way your no mercy songs fit together( particularly Hall of Judgement, Angel of judgement and The Final Judgement). In Hall of Judgement you have Frisk barely containing the rage and wrath felt for all they’ve dealt with and seen which moves over to Angel of Judgement where those feelings finally boil over, and there is no plan on stopping them. Then, after finally letting it all out just a step from finally getting home, Flowey makes the same choice to get in Frisks way and use he souls. There is nothing but a tired and worn DETERMINATION left, and Frisk is already too far to turn back. Absolutely love it :)
Thanks. I really enjoy the original trilogy myself, as well.
love the sliught self-reflection in the song of flowey versus the other monsters in frisks head
Unsurprisingly this frisk gives of Vengeance route clover vibes
It does! Vengeance Clover goes after Monsterkind for the sake of obtaining the souls of the children who fell before them, out of a vengeance, and a want for Judgment instead of Justice (Mercy) which results in them finding any reason to attack and kill the monsters who stand in their way, like how this version of Frisk rationalises killing Sans and Asgore, and Flowey in this song.
Except, Frisk seems a whole lot less angry at Flowey than Clover was.
@@Echo-fo2nfWell, Clover was tortured by Flowey across hundreds of different timelines.
@@DoubleAgent05 it's based on neutral run, so sans isn't killed here, thus he haven't attacked frisk
If there were to be a continuation of this series, I'm personally curious as to what would happen if Frisk were *forced* to reset again, whether it be simply dying on the surface by any variety of means, being pushed into it by Chara (whether for doing a pacifist route or a genocide route, I dont think the ghost is going to be particularly happy with any sort of middle road) or even simply guilt for the more accidental deaths on Frisk's road.
If one did happen, what road would Frisk take the second time around, I wonder?
Simply put, I love this idea for the character, and its really telling if the first reaction to seeing a concept is wanting to poke it more and see more come out of it.
Probably genocide just out of anger maybe even a genocide speedrun I mean they finally got a end they were satisfied with and having that taken away would piss them off
@@Lumberjack_king well they would just end up getting fucked up by chara in the end xD
It feels like after asgore frisk lost a lot of their anger and just sounds disappointed in flowey
It’s so cool to see a neutral frisk song, neutral routes are usually never done and esp frisk songs during the route.
Though interesting note, is this a true pacifist turned neutral frisk? They are aware of Floweys truth, an interesting concept and likely a in between pacifist to genocide frisk whose still exploring everything.
Yet then those final lyrics suggest otherwise.
Frisk's knowledge largely comes from their overlap with Chara. Because it was a Flowey related song, though, I wanted to lean a little on the wall with a 'how did she know that?'
Im so glad these popped up in my recommended! I've listened to the whole trilogy for like an hour now and its really amazing.
Not only is each song just really fun to listen too, but its a perspective I've never thought of. I really like this angry frisk.
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing whats next!
Man this is is FIRE! You cooked and delivered a 5 star meal.
i just listened to all 3 made so far despite having almost completely distanced myself from Undertale, and you know what? i actually wanna give this hypothetical run a try, and actually launch up Undertale again for the 1st time since 2019.
i like the concept a lot, and i think it'll be really cool to actually put myself in the shoes of the character. initially starting off sparing, but eventually getting more violent as the same monsters persistently kill Frisk, and more importantly, begin killing, starting slow, but becoming more and more frequent as they come across the various remains of items owned by previous victims of the underground, as they hear the stories of previous children, and even as they learn about the monsters goals to escape: using Frisk as a sacrifice to take the power of their soul, learning they've done the same to others who've arrived. all of this mixing together to fuel the need for Vengeance, as it's not longer just about survival or getting back home, but eliminating those who actively take it upon themselves to bring harm to others who are just trying to survive in an environment that is so hostile toward even a child. this would eventually turn the run into purely no mercy, but i'm curious where the lack of mercy will truly start.
i don't think they'd go as far as killing Papyrus though. guy literally professes his need to "capture" you, and doesn't even seem to realize what's really going on. he even goes as far as to put you in a cage when beaten, rather than finishing you off like the others do. but hey, i guess i'll figure things out when i get to that point, see what frisk probably would think by the point they reach him
My guess is no later than Undyne. Undyne is pretty callous about it all, and then spells out that the six children before were killed. Then in Hotland there's all the deadly traps and the killer robot (although this is all fake, Frisk wouldn't know it while playing through it). It'd be interesting to see if something might motivate a more no mercy style playthrough before Undyne though.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Update: No Mercy indeed started because of Undyne, though a bit of killing started slightly before the battle.
much of the playthrough "characterization" was figuring out how these monsters ended up down there, trying to figure out who Asgore is, and why they were hunting humans. during that time, i did some sparing, running when things were bad. it was only nearing the end of Waterfall when Frisk comes across the historical records discussing the war, the barrier, and the 7 human souls.
by that point there were no deaths, with the closest experiences to death being with Toriel and Papyrus, who both avoided a killing blow, so fleeing and sparing was still the primary goal. death 1 occurred sometime shortly after reading that record on the wall about the souls. i'd been dodging the attacks well enough that i hadn't needed to heal in a while. it had been so long in fact, that i forgot about healing items as a function and died as Aaron flexed in. when i came close to another death at the hands of Aaron, it was then decided that any monster who killed in a previous timeline would be killed themselves. these events would have likely started earlier if i didn't have a habit of constantly saving after every battle from my old playthroughs of Undertale. anyway, it was sometime shortly after that where i eventually battled against Undyne
truth be told- i was always terrible in the Undyne fight, so when i forgot my *healing items* (i was selling stuff in Temmie Village, didn't wanna accidentally sell my healing items) i was pretty much doomed to repeat that for a while as i initially refused to go back. that was not fun. at least the Temmie Armor was cheap when i finally decided to head back to the Temmie Village. after buying it i went back into the battle- with healing items as backup, and then killed her.
yeah, unlike the hints from earlier (that still painted a pretty clear picture of what was going on, even if based on conjecture), Undyne was very blunt about it, and hypocritical with her dogmatic patriotism, declaring how everyone in the underground wants a 7th human dead so they can escape. this immediately ties back to prior comments in passing from other monsters saying how they're going to be free soon, and are excited to see the outside. it's by this point that there's really little to no hope for the underground and it's citizens. if other people as dangerous as Undyne are really willing to go out of their way to kill so many people, only to escape and probably kill more, it's clear another war has already started without the surface even being aware of it. a war starting in the shadows, one that already has casualties, all of which appeared to be children.
so, In Conclusion: Undyne might have caused No Mercy to truly start, but it was a mix of everything encountered prior that would lead to the decision. Undyne was like a person in a room flooding with gasoline as they stand knee deep in it with 50 other people. the gasoline was rising to meet with an open flame, but Undyne decided to make it into a speedrun and pulled out a flamethrower. it was pretty clear that the path of No Mercy was going to start at some point soon, Undyne just turned up the dial from 1% to 500% like she's trying to cook spaghetti in her kitchen.
@@nathanfish1998 Undyne really is the best excuse for a No Mercy run before full resets get involved. It makes me think Toby added her on purpose to support that possibility. With how short Undertale is, it can be hard to reach the boiling point naturally in a single run without her, I find.
Frisk senses a invisible hand hit the reset button, the player forces their hand to move their character.
Wow just wow, I love this so much, the singing, the writing, the instrumental, just everything about it. I'll probably check out more of your songs now!
Determination tainted with justice, it had become judgement, for justice could not be made in these dark halls, when all claim to be innocent, but refuse to claim guilt where it can be found, there is only one option left to insure pain is paid in pain. A Frisk who carried the spirit of Clover, even as his soul was held elsewhere, and could take down even Chara.
(AKA the AU where Frisk was friends with Clover directly, and KNEW why they had gone down, only to learn what happened to their friend, as nobody repeats their name.)
This is perfect.
a unique take on the neutral route ( no mercy vers ), nice song, i would suggest advertising your socials (like spotify or bandicamp or soundcloud) if you have any in the description of the videos since these songs are nice and lots of people like them
I wonder what Frisk would think of Mettaton, considering how he is trying to stop a potential war between Monsters and Humans. His motivation seems to line up with Frisk's ideals, and he does explain what he is.
Great conclusion to the trilogy. Liked how chill this one was
Great song! I don't think I heard Frisk this angry before - it's rather nice! It's a rarity to have a song for neutral routes, so this is even more amazing. And I love that their anger is also for previous fallen children!
It's also a very fun contrast between Flowey who started to see all this as a game and Frisk who feeds their anger and doesn't try to spare, but seemingly only when someone else starts a fight.
The drawing is also very fitting - the dust motes, the way Frisk stares.
(Though I do believe No Mercy Route _is_ just another name for Genocide Route, and the Neutral Routes are everything in the between - as long as you don't hunt down monsters and don't free Underground. At least I've seen them being used like that.)
Actually there is a difference beetween No Mercy and Genocide, No Mercy is only killing those that get in your way, Genocide is hunt them all down
@@santiagojoaquinrojas9435 Looked it up, and apparently No Mercy can refer to both! I heard it only in one way before, so was a little confused.
@@СарраКарагозян That is because none of the routes are technically officially named. It's just what fandom calls them. Early on 'no mercy' was used for 'never spare' when people were experimenting with different neutral routes. When people started doing neutral less, the names of those routes became used less, and genocide snatched up the name for when people thought it was tacky to use the word 'genocide'. This Frisk technically is not a true no mercy route, because Frisk only becomes more jaded as time goes on, but 'no mercy' is the best descriptor IMO.
There’s some difference- but if you don’t know the map, or AFK a lot, a No Mercy Route can easily turn into a Geno Route. It’s just a matter of how many encounters
@@shelbyb13 Its not that easy to get genocide accidentaly, the map isnt that complex
you ahould make an animatic AMV of this one day man this is too good
I intend to do that! Or at least a fancy slideshow. But I'm starting with Hall of Judgment and I'm going to judge the difficulty of doing the whole trilogy from that. (I was going to debut them with that but quickly realized that would delay them by a lot)
One can understand the motive of revenge between Humans and Monsters, and mutual hatred resembles the situation with "Battlestar Galactica 2003". Each side has something to avenge on the other side and each side is hypocritical, on the part of the Monsters, Sans is a bright hypocrite (people, do you like the sin of hypocrisy?!).
Frisk's position can also be understood. In her position, it remains only to defend and even kill, otherwise Frisk will be killed, and then the last stage of mutual hatred will follow: the mutual destruction of Humans and Monsters.
If both sides do not admit their sins, mistakes and do not learn to forgive each other, then after mutual hatred from both peoples, only texts in textbooks and bones with ashes in museums will remain.
Ah that is a blast from the past, BSG 2003. A smart answer, though. When the monsters convince themselves they're innocent completely and had absolutely no part or responsibility in the war, while hyping themselves up for generations to go on a mass killing themselves, it can only end in more tragedy.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit It was the same with the Cylons from "Battlestar Galactica" and ended in almost mutual destruction.
I love this last one,i listen to it in loop…for sleeping,for gaming…everything 😊!continue like that bro!
this is such a good fucking song. I have listen to so many songs and this has gotta be in one of the top spots due to the personality in it. there's a lot of good undertale songs but my favorite are the ones with deep character to them like this one.
Im sorry, I didn't know I stumbled upon the god of undertale music
My gift to thee is a follow and a like to top it off. Im glad to be graced with your presence. 🙏
So awesome! I really want to see some others like undyne the undying
WHOA I just posted this. The next song I will make, if I do, will definitely be Undyne, because Undyne is the moment that Frisk becomes aware of what happened to the other children.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit nice! I actually discovered your channel while looking for music for my broken hero/villain playlist to listen too while gaming and let me tell you the other two on your channel did not disappoint.
THAT'S AWESOME! I LOVE IT AND ESPECHIALLY IF IT'S ABOUT FRISK!❤
HELP this reminds me of my undertale self insert which is basically a recolored frisk that did no mercy run
this is absolutely amazing
This feels personal
❤ Estou amando essa sequência de sons de Undertale, todos são de ótima qualidade! Meus parabéns
Need a fanfic about this
Thought I'd be waiting for the third great song you pushed these out quickly and I can tell you put work and care into these really love your idea for frisk but I an curios as to what would happen next on this "adventure" will frisk stay true to their word and not come back will they be forced to come back? I guess we'll find out soon hope to see more from you. And I wonder, sorry to tap into Au's but what a weird Horror tale this would make especially with that grueling talk frisk and sans had can't imagine what a difference that would put on his personality maybe just more depressed? idk, actually wouldn't mind hearing an Aliza song I don't think many or any of them really exist but either way hope to hear more Undertale songs, Undertale related, or even inspired songs can't wait to see what "route" you choose. Cya until then defiantly a Like and Sub Good job.
I waited until all three songs were done to start releasing them to ensure I could get them out in a timely manner, that's why. I have considered doing a song about Frisk after the barrier, but in all likelihood I'll do earlier songs, like Frisk v Undyne, instead. I don't recognize the name Aliza, is that one of the monsters that Alphys experimented on?
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Aliza is from Horrortale. Another human goes in the underground after a neutral route in Undertale.
@@King_Kong-Zilla Ohhh I see! I haven't heard of that AU.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Aliza is not entirely Undertale related why you probably didn't get it at first or maybe not knowing of many Au's etc. But Aliza is the protagonist that you play as for Horrortale the story after frisk fell and didn't reset in a neutral run.
Love it, these songs have impressed me greatly. Going to subscribe in case you make more. If you are taking suggestions, why not do a song about the battle against Undyne? This version of Frisk seems to have some sort of justice, and Undyne has her own. Thought it'd be an interesting idea, and with Undyne being the most determined to get the last human soul, though it'd make a good pairing overall.
Edit: By the way, genocide route used to be called No Mercy. They actually are the same thing, at least used to be. I recognize how you change the meaning or it's current meaning, not complaining or anything, I actually like it and it makes this interpretation of Frisk very interesting. Good work, hope there's more.
I love your music please keep making more music it's so cool and inspiring!! ^^~
I believe in you human.
How can somebody make a perfect song?
I honestly think this would fit on a neutral run but you mostly kill
Out of all of the beautiful Undertale songs you’ve composed, this one has to be my favorite. I’ve been wondering if any of them are available to listen to on Spotify?
The three 'judgment' songs are on Spotify.
@@ThedarkbunnyrabbitFound them, thanks so much! :)
Huh…this is a welcome surprise
New sub. I love your music! And voice!
This is easily the best one
it's really good i want it on spotify
Really great pal
It's great 9,5/10
This song actually came top 2 of the undertale fan songs I've heard. I love having another point of view than pacifist or genocide and these lyrics with such a music make an amazing combo !
this is fire🔥
1:55 Uh...Just...Flowey's identity isn't revealed in Neutral...how can Frisk know he's Asgore's son?
How indeed.
many resets by yours truely.
@@Sefanacluba uh…I asked this channel and they said this Frisk just reset when they died (though it sounds even weaker than Flowey)
Plus this Frisk said they wouldn’t come back so…No
Ощутил ли ты всю их боль?
Их ярость, их страх?
С этими украденными ДУШАМИ
Ты думашь, я послушаю тебя?
БАГОСТЬ и ЖЕСТОКОСТЬ
Ты вообще понимаешь
Что все это значит?
Моя жизнь была сурова, полна крови и боли,
Удушья от пыли за мной идущей
Ты думал, я сделала это просто ради веселья?
Я никогда не просила этой битвы, не я начинала убийства,
Но их предсказания сбываются не завися от меня
Каждый взмах моего клинка исходит из БЛАГОСТИ,
За невинных, что страдали от вашего безумства
Я найду свой собственный путь домой, пусть и пылью занечённый,
С РЕШИМОСТЬЮ моей вынесу приговор, что должна
Я могу быть ТЕРПИМОЙ,
Я буду НАСТОЙЧИВОЙ,
Убить или быть убитым, говоришь ты,
Просто игра, что ты играешь
Каждое движение мое, каждый шаг мой изучаешь ты
Но никогда не был ты на месте моем, не чувствовал душевной боли
Находя разбитые останки каждой памятной находки.
Я не хочу пустых оправданий
Их руки, омытые по локоть крови
И я не буду слышать твое безумство
Если тебе нужно, чтобы они все исчезли,
Чего беспокоиться о пешке?
Называй меня монстром
Называй их мучеником
Называй меня слабой
Называй меня дурой
Неважно, сколько ДУШ ты украдёшь
Я всё равно прорежу тебя насквозь
Я становлюсь монстром, от которого им ужасно?
Или я СПРАВЕДЛИВОСТЬ, что они заслуживают, разве не ясно?
Моя ЧЕСТНОСТЬ мне все еще важна
Они говорят мне выбрать МИЛОСТЬ
Когда МЕСТЬ им положена
Ты говоришь мне УБИТЬ
И бежать в страхе, когда делаю это
Не смей судить меня
Когда даже не можешь понять меня
Ты украл их души, как твой отец до тебя,
И поэтому наказание остается прежним
Я никогда не просила этой битвы, не я начинала убийства,
Но их предсказания сбываются не завися от меня
Каждый взмах моего клинка исходит из БЛАГОСТИ,
За невинных, что страдали от вашего безумства
Я найду свой собственный путь домой, пусть и пылью занесённый,
С РЕШИМОСТЬЮ моей вынесу приговор, что должна
Я могу быть ТЕРПИМОЙ,
Я буду НАСТОЙЧИВОЙ,
Это мой выбор, моя месть, мой приговор
Я назад не поверну, не сброшу, и сожалеть не стану
Этот павший ребенок не станет чьей-то пешкой
Не стой, не жди моего прихода
Я не приду на твою мольбу.
I love it
AMAZING
You should 100% try out Undertale Yellow
I see some people resonate with Frisk neutral route as "self-defence" and their anger with injustice and their own pains and deaths. Or "vengence" as Clover UTY. Here's my opinion after listening to all 3 songs so far (it may sound a lil bit unfair or be justified for monsters but i like pacifist most)
- Idk how to say it in word but i mean...they even don't know fallen children before them...just...would they care for people they don't know to the point their ready to kill monsters? Though i can understand if they prefer their own kinds more than monsterkind...Just...how can A CHILD kill a living creature without hesitation while hearing their victims's cries and screams (and even not regret or bother to try to make a better decision while they CAN)?... Self-defense...well, not really necessary to kill them completely...just...monsters can be spared when their HP are lowed...or why don't they just simply FLEE from the battle (Yeah, when i didn't know how to pass the battle in the first playthrough, i also FLEE), i mean, it's not hard to avoid unecessary deaths in almost situations (especially when that's not mini bosses or bosses) (we could even FLEE from UNDYNE so...uh huh). They're angry for the pains and deaths they carried and want justice...But what's the reason for all deaths and pains from the first place? IT'S THE WAR STARTED BY HUMANITY! Monsters have already lost many lives in that war, they've lost their freedom and ultimately, the king's children, their last hopes were taken away by HUMANS again, WANT JUSTICE FOR HUMANS WHILE BRINGING PAINS FOR MONSTERS!? Who's hurt wanna hurt others. Just consider the number of lives, who lost more? monsters or humans?...Though I can understand they're just innocent children and that's not their faults to cause monsters's despairs, meanwhile, Asgore, who declared wars with humans is still there (even when he doesn't want to hurt anyone as he said). Well, everyone has their own reasons to justify their actions (even Flowey when he lost his best friend, his feelings and he also had to survive even he was dead and kill himself)...They all hurt others...and take the pains they bear as an excuse
-(I feel it's like why True Pacifist is the true ending) At the very beginning, Frisk is taught how to spare monsters and avoid violence by Froggit NPCs and Toriel. Especially, Toriel is really nice and motherly to Frisk and she's also a monster, which would give Frisk a good impression with monsterkind. Then Papyrus and Sans, their both funny and act friendly and nicely with Frisk, make the human laugh, it's like to give Frisk better sight about monsters. Papyrus also adviced Frisk to be gentle toward Asgore and said the king was nice (though he doesn't know that wouldn't work, bruh) Then in waterfall, the history of monsters, humans, wars are written through the road Frisk goes, to convince them that monsters just do what they must to escape the Underhell. And Undyne is claimed "monsters's hero", try to help their kinds to reach their hopes and dreams and stay determined even after the damage she took in the battle. Plus, Undyne is papyrus's friend and he also wants Undyne and Frisk be friends. In their hangout, Undyne also tells Frisk not to hurt monsters before totally trusting and being Frisk's friend. Next, Mettaton...I admit he's pretty...annoying but he also said he just needed to take Frisk's soul and be well-known in the surface...i just mean he wouldn't hurt humanity (eh...but he hurt Frisk). In short, the game is likely created for Frisk to act pacifism and merciful due to the friendships the could have in their journey, starting with the lesson at the start and if they're perserved and determined with that belief, it's not easy to ruin that route
-"Players": well i think i should mention this. The Undertale is about Frisk's journey, but it's also created to be a "game"...literally. I think the monsters attacked us during all encounters are likely game's mechanic...yeah, it's not like we could just only fight with minibosses and bosses and the others's monsters in areas is also a part of the game. Which mean, my theory is if that journey is in real and not created to be a game then...monsters in areas wouldn't really just want to beat and kill humans...just...see...we could FLIRT, JOKE, SING, ENCOURAGE,...to the OPPONENT RIGHT IN A BATTLE TO DEATH!? IS THAT EVEN A PROPER FIGHT? THAT ONLY CAN HAPPEN IF IT'S A GAME, BRUH! Or...like, Napstablook's battle...whatever the reason, his personality is not aggressive or malicious enough to ACTUALLY hurt or kill someone IN REAL, IT'S THE GAME MECHANIC...Well, i just mean that it's not like all monsters in areas would wanna beat Frisk in real, it's just the GAME rule (And almost monsters even don't know Frisk is human from the start, even royal guards...like...Dogamy, Dogaressa, RG01, RG02). And Sans's judgement is for Player more than for Frisk. I ensure that almost Players wouldn't think they're "in pain" or "dead" in the game, GAME OVER or loss is just the most basic things for a game; so it's accurate to say Player is cruel and not care about others in the game, do everything out of "curiousty". If that's not Player, an "anomaly" in this game then... yeah, Sans's judgement would be hilarious for Frisk is just a kid and self-defense is justified. (I even feel worse for Frisk in this situation, their a puppet for Players to abuse and they could die whenever without a chance to resist) Well...the "game" is pretty complicated, right?
Honestly, everyone has their own reasons for their actions...but bringing your pains to kill someone, it's bad...yet, yeah, i'd admit that the world would never be fair for anyone. I...don't have right to judge or preach what's right or wrong. But hey, who's not gonna like the happy ending? If there's a way to be perfect, why not?
(sorry if my English and grammar is not good or make you misunderstand)
Thats the...point? This Frisk isnt a hero nor a villian, theyre just the protagonist, also The True Pacifist ending isnt a perfect happy ending
The other commenter is right that this trilogy (and any other songs I make in this route) isn't about making a 'heroic' Frisk, but about a Frisk who sees themselves as the embodiment of justice and revenge for their own pain and that of their fallen. You can say 'you can spare all monsters if they get low enough health' but do you know what never happens outside of Toriel and Papyrus? The monsters sparing Frisk when she gets low HP.
Frisk doesn't spare monsters because they don't spare her. And as for 'how can a child kill a monster', Frisk would ask right back 'how can a monster kill a child'.
It can be easy to say the game sets you up to spare, but you weren't the one being cut in half by mr and msses doggo every time you messed up dodging.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit i mentioned that not every monsters would really wanna kill Frisk if that's not game, especially when they even don't know Frisk's a human from the start.
And can't they flee right there?
@@MinhNguyễnNgọc-z7q I want to point out the "how could a child kill so easily thing" doesn't apply here.....i mean this frisk had died in about every conceivable way possible over and over and over and over and over again....most people would call an experience like that hell... anybody would snap and start killing after that and
@@MinhNguyễnNgọc-z7qbut they do anyway so W Frisk
Wait no why does it all mkae sense when you read the description
Wanted to see if all the souls were in the song but bravery is the only one not in it
I actually had bravery in it in a earlier draft because I wanted each of the souls slipped in there. But it was too bulky, so I snipped it down. Of all of them, I thought bravery was the most fitting to be removed, as the war is over and bravery has turned to fatigue.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit ok that makes sense I do like ur songs
Can you put this up on spotify or other music apps? Cause this is such a good fan song
I am in the process of doing so, it should be on Spotify on the 29th
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Awesome!!!!
Wow, this one is actually really really nice! Can we get a flac/wav/lossless file for this?
I don't see why not, I'm just not sure how I would host such a thing.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I think youtube removed my last post since it had a link. But I'd suggest bandcamp for it.
Question: does frisk kill toriel in this route
Most likely, but not out of malice. Toriel is designed to be killed accidentally on your first run (if you just fight her and attempt to get her to the usual sparing range you accidentally do a critical hit). Frisk doesn't kill Papyrus, although they are already conflicted by the time they fight him, due to having died multiple times by then. Undyne is when they realize what the keepsakes they've been finding meant.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbitso basically it’s no mercy once they make it to hotland
@@UnderYourBedbear Frisk never hunts the monsters down as in Genocide, but she does stop using the spare button.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit okay so now I understand what you meant when you said they started off with mercy
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I really like this take on undertale because they go out of their way to tell you how harmless the monsters are even though you have non monsters throwing literal bombs at you. I
If I’m correct, this frisk would be the start of horror tale since they left the underground in chaos?
Undyne is death in “no mercy”
Sans response when fr fr
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That would defeat the purpose of this song
@@UnderYourBedbear nuh uh
My god please do undyne vs frisk next please but of course take your time we can wait 😊
Think we'll be able to get a Frisk vs chara song?
Frisk and Chara only interact on a genocide route, so it would be somewhat difficult for this Frisk to speak with them. I suspect Frisk would feel that Chara had become like the monsters in the end.
@@ThedarkbunnyrabbitI always viewed Chara as someone who would support Frisk killing those who killed them in a no mercy neutral run. Genocide is just genocide but the no mercy neutral is self defense
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit True but this is sorta a genocide- not fully..but their LV could awaken chara, and the extra boost through their determination after facing flowey just proves that it is possible, So why not? it would be interesting to see their differences and how both of them would interact against each other (After all, Chara has a huge hatred for mankind while frisk has a grudge against monsterkind, two sides of the same coin)
I admit that does sound like it could be an interesting debate, Chara hating humans and Frisk hating monsters, but I don't have a good hook for the song currently. I imagine it'd be something like Megalo Strikes Back. I do have a Chara song I'd like to do, which is a variant of Megalovania, but I haven't been able to get down lyrics I like yet.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit Honestly it would be tricky to create a dialogue/song for them but megalo strikes back is a great option that might help with that, especially because of the metal vibe
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Will these ever be on Spotify if they aren't already?
I have never used Spotify before, but if I can figure out how that works, sure, I could put them there.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit That would be a godsend, I have a Playlist of over 20 songs that I can't download because they're not on Spotify 😭
@@abelgordon9906 I shall do my best to not contribute to that list then lol
Nice.
Is there a discord? Just curious c:
I never thought to make one, I didn't expect many to watch any new fansongs.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit The algorithm blessed you! Tbh never thought i'd hear such an amazing piece of work : D
brings me back to when Undertale had a bunch of original songs, this is just as good as those! can't wait for more, though no pressure of course-
@@deathc0ntent You flatter me. I am encouraged to work on other songs for this route from the support for these songs, but of course it will be a while. I don't want to rush them out and make something I'm not proud of.
I'm looking forward to it! Plus, if you ever need help with setting up a discord of sorts I would like to volunteer to help! Would love to meet a bunch of people and talk about UT!
i kinda wanna know what you would judge toriel for tho
Arguably, there are reasons to judge Toriel. She didn't actively go and try to fight Asgore, or shield the children on their journeys. But Frisk here wouldn't know that at the time she knew Toriel.
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit i mean toriel did block the way home for frisk
Even fighting frisk in the process
@@glitchedblazeowo That's correct. And that will be mentioned in the Toriel song, but it will have a different tone overall, because Frisk doesn't know as much.
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit thats fair!
I do love your songs
Keep up the good work
And im mostly excited about papyrus and are you gonna do minibosses as well?
@@glitchedblazeowo I may do at least some. Ultimately, it'll be whatever songs I can come up with, but I'll try to get every boss at a minimum
Do you have a Spotify? Could you make one 😗
The songs should be on spotify in a week or so.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbitplease reply when the three songs are on spotify
@@thewillowtree727 It should be the 29th
Let’s go! I love these songs so much you did incredible!
Someone reuploaded your song. th-cam.com/video/ntNrRhY2pXI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5J11QEuwradUITCg. Not just this, but also the others.
Oh those aren't reuploads, that's part of distribution. I believe get revenue off those.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit oh fr?
@@glitchzer0o83 Yeah, I'm not sure if it's automatic or specifically done by the distributor, but it's just part of getting your work on Spotify.
*The Master Crown™️!
Frisk: So this power is a little too much huh?
*It's power level! It's building up!
Frisk: My soul... it's about to-
(Massive explosion)
(At Gaster's Room)
*My final enemy! It's here!
*CHECK
Forgotten Queen Frisk
HP: 12,300,000
ATK: 7,000,000
DEF: 35,000,000
Bio: One left... (*This world is beyond broken! It can't be fixed!)
Is this song made by ai? (maybe Suno)
probably not ai? the lyrics are too game specific, and i feel like the vocals could just be a vocaloid or a human voice with a shit ton of effects on it.
edit: uh oh, it might be AI
the child named Frisk didn't exist in any route you could say they was exist after true pacifist route
Because the Frisk named was only mention in true pacifist and hardmode.