It matter how many misters are spraying for 3 seconds. A 4 gallon accumulator tank holds around 3 1/2 gallons of fluid and that can take a couple hours or even a day to refill.
No longer a website? where can one go to learn more? how many large totes can you set up with the one air pressure tank? does all the equipment (on the tote there) have to be duplicated per tote? Wondering about a pvc/ez clone misters to spray roots with a submersible pump and hydroponic nutrients in the bottle. the water is pushed up or down depending on the height of the pvc. Then it combines the two and you only need the sub. pump. Will that setup work?
You can use one pump for your system and add more accumulator tanks as you need them. A lot depends on how you build your system and everyone builds theirs differently. The setup you’re talking about sounds like low pressure hydroponics and will work fine. And they work best for small grows. Good luck!
Hey I am reading this from your website "The downside is having to open the chamber to allow fresh air in, but this can mess up your spray time for a day". Can you explain what you meant by mess up your spray time for a day ?
I should of wrote “your removing the humidity in the chamber that has built up and it may take up to a day to build up that humidity again.” So don’t change your spray cycle. Some people call it “degassing” which refers more to air atomizing nozzles which constantly fill the chamber with nutrient fog.
4:43 not sure what youre saying here (tree hpa system??) if youre using an aquatec (im guessing 8800) then ive heard that the pressure switches often fail what do you reccommend? thanks.
Have a tee setup with a valve between the tank and the solenoid. Open the valve slowly and drain the tank. Make sure you have a pressure relief valve somewhere on the tank if you can.
These small accumulator tanks allow you to maintain a higher pressure than the other bigger accumulator tanks which go up to 100 psi at max, not sure how much that is actually a benefit though. More fittings, more pressure loss. What is the difference between the specs of this and the other pump you have in Aerobox?
Yeah this video was to show the old way of making systems. People have been asking since they only have access to the resources around them. Basically this is a boat or RV setup. I’m using the Aquatec pump now inside the AeroBox. They can run continuously, allowing a low pressure system if you get in a jam.
So that is a pump we had manufactured and use to sell. Just go with an Aquatec 8800 pump and get their 80-100 pressure switch or 90-110 psi. They commonly come with a 40-60 switch so you have to look around for the higher psi switch.
What is the model number of the 4 gallon accumulator you've been using? I have a 3 gallon which has a max pressure of just over 100psi, and I'm not excited about running it up so close to it's theoretical limit. But a lot of the units that support more psi just seem to really escalate in price since they're often industrial grade. Also, you should post amazon affiliate links to the products in the vids so you can get some monetization :P
I hate Amazon....😌 Most people run their system at 80-100 psi. The max pressure rating is what they are saying is still within the safe range. I’ve pushed them further, but it’s not safe. Like many products people just put their sticker over it. This is an iSpring tank, but under the sticker is the manufacturer that I commonly see on all the tanks. I’ve had more issues with fittings breaking at higher pressures. Most don’t last long with 160 psi max. So yes, if you’re going to set up a much higher pressure system you have to step up your equipment to commercial grade. Get that accumulator tank as close to your misters as possible at 80-100 psi or 90-110. Let me know...
My advice is to invest in a good quality accumulator so you only need to buy once. A 6.3 gallon 10 bar with a replaceable bladder and stainless hardware lists at $90 (stateside). It may sound expensive but it`ll be money well spent. I have two 6.3gal and three 26gal accumulators which run at 140psi, some are getting on for 10 years old now and i`ve never had an issue. I`ve used the cheaper RO accumulators, mainly for hpa cloners and they didnt last for more than 2 years before the diaphragms let go. You`ll also find the paint tends to bubble around the base of the outlet connector with rust underneath.
@@atomizer2665 also if you want to use larger tanks at a higher pressure to hold more sterile nutrients, an in-line pressure reducer allows more control. Atomizer even hand pumps tanks and has shown nutrients can stay sterile up to 4 weeks in a tank.
@@AeroponicGrowers Pressure reducer is a must with an accumulator, otherwise the outlet pressure tracks the tank pressure. In the case where its a 20psi swing its not so bad but when you have a 60psi swing it makes a big difference. I havent used my rothenburger manual pump in a while but its ready to go if i need it.
Yeah, we are educating and helping people mainly now. Aeroponics is the future of farming but we don’t need more systems, the world will need people who know how to run them.
A constant duty pump would need to turn on and off for each spray. There isn’t a constant pressure behind the solenoid without an accumulator tank. The accumulator tank stores all the pressurized liquid made by the pump at the same pressure.
Thank a LOT for all your videos, they help me so much
Hey no problem and good luck 👍
Do you no longer have a website?
How many sprays of 3 seconds will the accumulator do before the pump kicks on to pressurize the system? Thank you so much for the info!
It matter how many misters are spraying for 3 seconds. A 4 gallon accumulator tank holds around 3 1/2 gallons of fluid and that can take a couple hours or even a day to refill.
No longer a website? where can one go to learn more? how many large totes can you set up with the one air pressure tank? does all the equipment (on the tote there) have to be duplicated per tote? Wondering about a pvc/ez clone misters to spray roots with a submersible pump and hydroponic nutrients in the bottle. the water is pushed up or down depending on the height of the pvc. Then it combines the two and you only need the sub. pump. Will that setup work?
You can use one pump for your system and add more accumulator tanks as you need them. A lot depends on how you build your system and everyone builds theirs differently. The setup you’re talking about sounds like low pressure hydroponics and will work fine. And they work best for small grows. Good luck!
Hey I am reading this from your website "The downside is having to open the chamber to allow fresh air in, but this can mess up your spray time for a day". Can you explain what you meant by mess up your spray time for a day ?
I should of wrote “your removing the humidity in the chamber that has built up and it may take up to a day to build up that humidity again.” So don’t change your spray cycle. Some people call it “degassing” which refers more to air atomizing nozzles which constantly fill the chamber with nutrient fog.
4:43 not sure what youre saying here (tree hpa system??) if youre using an aquatec (im guessing 8800) then ive heard that the pressure switches often fail what do you reccommend? thanks.
Get the 80-100 psi pressure switch. Often people get the 60-80 or lower switch and over crank it making it break.
How could i drain the pressurized tank with this system?
Have a tee setup with a valve between the tank and the solenoid. Open the valve slowly and drain the tank. Make sure you have a pressure relief valve somewhere on the tank if you can.
These small accumulator tanks allow you to maintain a higher pressure than the other bigger accumulator tanks which go up to 100 psi at max, not sure how much that is actually a benefit though. More fittings, more pressure loss. What is the difference between the specs of this and the other pump you have in Aerobox?
Yeah this video was to show the old way of making systems. People have been asking since they only have access to the resources around them. Basically this is a boat or RV setup. I’m using the Aquatec pump now inside the AeroBox. They can run continuously, allowing a low pressure system if you get in a jam.
Can you post the model of the pump? Thanks
So that is a pump we had manufactured and use to sell. Just go with an Aquatec 8800 pump and get their 80-100 pressure switch or 90-110 psi. They commonly come with a 40-60 switch so you have to look around for the higher psi switch.
@@AeroponicGrowers Thanks!
What is the model number of the 4 gallon accumulator you've been using? I have a 3 gallon which has a max pressure of just over 100psi, and I'm not excited about running it up so close to it's theoretical limit. But a lot of the units that support more psi just seem to really escalate in price since they're often industrial grade. Also, you should post amazon affiliate links to the products in the vids so you can get some monetization :P
I hate Amazon....😌 Most people run their system at 80-100 psi. The max pressure rating is what they are saying is still within the safe range. I’ve pushed them further, but it’s not safe. Like many products people just put their sticker over it. This is an iSpring tank, but under the sticker is the manufacturer that I commonly see on all the tanks. I’ve had more issues with fittings breaking at higher pressures. Most don’t last long with 160 psi max. So yes, if you’re going to set up a much higher pressure system you have to step up your equipment to commercial grade. Get that accumulator tank as close to your misters as possible at 80-100 psi or 90-110. Let me know...
My advice is to invest in a good quality accumulator so you only need to buy once. A 6.3 gallon 10 bar with a replaceable bladder and stainless hardware lists at $90 (stateside). It may sound expensive but it`ll be money well spent. I have two 6.3gal and three 26gal accumulators which run at 140psi, some are getting on for 10 years old now and i`ve never had an issue. I`ve used the cheaper RO accumulators, mainly for hpa cloners and they didnt last for more than 2 years before the diaphragms let go. You`ll also find the paint tends to bubble around the base of the outlet connector with rust underneath.
@@atomizer2665 also if you want to use larger tanks at a higher pressure to hold more sterile nutrients, an in-line pressure reducer allows more control. Atomizer even hand pumps tanks and has shown nutrients can stay sterile up to 4 weeks in a tank.
@@AeroponicGrowers
Pressure reducer is a must with an accumulator, otherwise the outlet pressure tracks the tank pressure. In the case where its a 20psi swing its not so bad but when you have a 60psi swing it makes a big difference. I havent used my rothenburger manual pump in a while but its ready to go if i need it.
@@atomizer2665 and how would the inline pressure reducer help in the case of 60 PSI swings? Not sure I follow...
Your back?
Yeah, we are educating and helping people mainly now. Aeroponics is the future of farming but we don’t need more systems, the world will need people who know how to run them.
Why not just get a constant duty pump to eliminate the accumulator tank from the system
A constant duty pump would need to turn on and off for each spray. There isn’t a constant pressure behind the solenoid without an accumulator tank. The accumulator tank stores all the pressurized liquid made by the pump at the same pressure.