The Buddha's Encounter with Darkness: Aṅgulimāla
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- The life of Siddhartha Gautama, who later became known as the Buddha or the "Enlightened One," is full of stories that offer profound insights into the ethical teachings of Buddhism.
These stories, passed down through generations, serve as parables that elucidate the core principles of Buddhist thought, philosophy, and ethics.
Among these tales, the story of a serial killer in the Buddha's time named Angulimala stands out, not just for its dramatic elements but for its deep philosophical and ethical implications.
This narrative not only underscores the transformative power of compassion and understanding but also offers a unique lens through which we can explore and contrast Buddhist ethics with Western ethical systems.
Siddhartha Gautama: The Man Behind the Legend
Before we begin the tale of Angulimala, it's essential to understand the man who would become the Buddha.
Born into royalty, Siddhartha Gautama's life was one of luxury and privilege.
However, a series of encounters with the harsh realities of life - old age, sickness, death, and asceticism - led him to renounce his life as a prince to search for answers to the suffering inherent in human existence.
After years of rigorous ascetic practices and meditation, he attained enlightenment under the Bodhi tree, thereby becoming The Buddha.
His teachings, known as the Dharma, revolve around the Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path, these, as we shall see, lay the groundwork for Buddhist ethics.
#angulimala #buddha #spirituality #buddhism
Script: Matt Mackane
Edit: Harsh
Voiceover: Matt Mackane
Score: Epidemic Music
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The story of the life of Siddhartha was simply amazing, to read. Even if you do not read it for any more a reason than to read a book. It's worth it.
All BULSHIT excusion to OLD man keep hierarchy by CASTRATING LOW CLASS MAN with RELIGION DOGMA OF AN PASSIVE SLAVE
What book do you recommend, brother?
@@fauxfibfaux Fiodor Dostoievski
@@fauxfibfaux the Life of the Buddha by Depak Chopra (if my spelling is right, lol) is my favorite and I recommend that title heavily.
Angulimala gives me hope I can be a better human. No matter what my past says. I fought tears hearing this
I believe in you. Every day is another day you can change for the better
Why would it matter
@@dariuscarlos6707 being a better human should matter to everyone
You can do it. I believe in you.
Practicing Nichiren Buddhist here. The Buddha did not find enlightenment via ascetic practices. He specifically found that asceticism was a dead end.
People often get obsessed with physical suffering and self-denial, but “who is this self that denies itself?”
The Self does not exist. It’s an illusion. The individual organism that experiences consciousness exists, but that’s not the same thing as our concept of ourselves, nor is that organism fundamentally different from its environment.
Shakyamuni famously was enlightened after a long period of meditation beneath a Bodhi tree, but this was after finding the both self-denial and self-indulgence (spiritual masochism vs hedonism) held no answers.
Hence “the middle way”, not as a golden mean fallacy but the realization that what you subject yourself to or are subjected to is pointless because “you” are not your self, not your ego-you are the eternal thing that comes and goes, manifests the world and then withdraws it in a never ending cycle.
Enlightenment can be compared to a fictional character realizing they’re a character, within the pages of the book itself.
Karma isn’t about change, nor is Buddhism about change. Time is an illusion. Ahimsa didn’t change, he realized what he’d forgotten before he was born: that he was literally The Buddha himself (we all are) and in fact, he’d never been anyone else.
I think this is the fundamental difference between Hinduism and Buddhism.
The concept of self does not exist in Buddhism. It's a fiction - like a character in a novel (so aptly put by you) which is experienced during nirvana.
The concept of self exists in Hinduism.
The self is not the body, not the mind, not the intellect, neither does it not exist. Self is the Jeev atman.
The Jeevatma is something that is permanent and is made of the same spiritual effulgence as the Param atman.
However during enlightenment the Jeeva atman can choose liberation (mukti) of various types:
1. Sayoojya: One becomes one with the impersonal paramatman or the effulgence of the Lord by losing all individuality.
2. Sarupaya : One attains a personal form exactly like that of the paramatman.
3. Samipya : One remains an associate of the Supreme Personality of the paramatman.
4.Salokya : After material liberation, one is promoted to the planet where the Supreme Personality of paramatman resides.
5. Kaivalya : One attains nirvana --Just like Buddhism he realises that he is fictitious like a character is a novel.
So you can see for yourself that Buddhism is just a subsection of the greater tree of the Sanatana Dharma.
Hare Krishna !!!
The scariest part about the tale of Aṅgulimāla. Is that to me he is a representation of humanity at its lowest and highest. Both on the individualistic scale and on the grand scale. I am Aṅgulimāla in the dark depths of my heart. How do I face this shadow, like Carl Jung suggests? How do I make peace with chaos, is that even possible? And how do I desire not to desire? I find some Buddhist teachings to be in of themselves, at times, another subtle enslavement to the Ego. Is there a philosophy beyond western and eastern dichotomies? Anyways, beautiful video. Peace and Blessings.
The way that the Buddha taught according to my understanding of Buddhist Master Ajahn Brahm is that how can a man overcome desire.. especially a strong desire such as sexual desire.. which the Buddha proclaims is the desire preceding all desires.. is by jhana or absorption in meditation.. this fulfills desire and without it as the Buddha says there could be no other way. This is how one finds desirelessness not by desiring to be without desire but by surrender or letting go. (non-attachment) The energy is purifed and not sexualized when one allows the energy to be absorbed into the heart (jhana) rather than in the mind. (sexual) From the heart (pure awareness) it flows upwards (pure energy) and from the mind (ego) respectively downwards. (sexual energy) Namo Buddhaya 🙏🏻☸️
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@@christosmontariou3105 Thank you for the kindness of your reply. I'll check out the book recommendation. Peace and blessings to you. 🙌
@@AwakenedEmptiness So it's kind of like Brahmacharya (complete sexual aabstinence), as is practiced in some Hindu sects? In a sense, much like Bhakti Yoga. One must put his/her devotion towards the higher consciousness/gods, and lay desires at their feet to subdue the Egoic consciousness. Peace and blessings to you. 🙌
look into: "Biopantheism"
It's important to note that AnguliMala was not killer to begin with like since childhood, he was given good education in most important years of his life, so light was already there, he had learned compassion while studying at young age, all he had to do was go back to the source of light. Also meeting enlightened person like Bhuddha is not a small thing. AnguliMala's situation was like Anakin Skywalker from star wars movie.
But isn't this the case with all? We have all had at least someone showing even a small glimmer of love compassion
Ooooh thabk you for the starwars reference! Its really hard for me to comprehend anything without relating it to my favorite fiction franchises
Ahh so after learning still the truth on both sides still choose the Darkness,Unstable Emotion,and the Harnessing of Fear..Ironically the same fate of Angulimala..Such a pity they went to the Dark side.
@@fraterlemuele.s.l.d.6435 there is difference AnguliMala came to light because he met with Buddha .. that didn't happen with Anakin Skywalker in star wars ...
But all are god how can god not redeem itself no matter how dark
This is a slightly different story than what I've heard. The one I heard had to do with the Buddah going for a walk, but his followers telling him there's a murderer out there. The Buddha said he must go on his walk and so he did. I just think it's interesting you left this part out.
I also didn't hear about the compassion thing of the mala dude.
Also, the mala guy tells the buddah to turn around and the buddha refuses. The mala guy says he doesn't want the buddha to be his last kill, but he'll do it if he must. The buddha continues to approach. The mala guy then says, "so you've chosen death or something like that" but the Buddha says, "Before you kill me, I'd like you to do something for me". The mala guy says "well you are the buddha, what do you wish?" The Buddha asks the man if he can cut a limb from a tree. Mala does so with ease. The buddah now asks if the man can reattach it? The man obviously can't, and something within that experience is what made him drop to the ground in defeat and awakening.
The thing I like about that story is that he only needed one more finger to complete his task. He was right there, but he found something profound within the idea of being able to easily destroy, but not mend.
I must say, I like the iteration of the story I've heard more than this one.
The video version felt like it was missing something and I was kinda of confused until I read this. I like this one better as well.
Perhaps the other really brilliant figure in this story (besides the other two) is Mala's teacher
oh, I didn't ever hear anything about him. What's his story?
@@Urbah
@@kukukachu Well I need to find out more myself, but just from what we heard so far, he set this Mala being on a path (a very transgressive, unconventional, and I want to say difficult path, but a path nonetheless) that directly led to his enlightenment before it was finished (directly before). It seems that he knew that this is what this Mala being would need?
I always got the sense it was more out of jealousy than anything, but yea, research more about him and find out.@@Urbah
Every evil man was once a child
An innococent, but just THE wrong influences made them evil. A child is a blank tape you can record most beautiful sounds or most scariest.
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@@ptkettlehatswhat do you even mean lol
Many evil men (although not all) was once an evil child. The tree can be known from the seed.
And every child was once an evil man
This reminds me of the story of the Mouse and the Lion. When we begin each day, brand new and with a open mind, heart full of compassion, and the desire to only harmonize with the Earth around you, we never know who or what will cross our paths and enrich our soul, forever.
Where there is Buddha dharma, everyone rejoice peace and tranquility
I love the Buddha’s teachings and philosophy I’m still thinking about becoming a Buddhist monk myself
Me too❤
You dont need to join a monastery to be a Monk. We dont need guru's either. The greatest teacher is within. Its just good to know the basics and then become adaptable as we work our way through lifes journey.
Become the Buddha through dedicated self enquiry and you will save yourself much time chasing shadows
Good luck brother or sister, I wish you luck as a modern monk.
A monk is by definition an ordained individual. You do need an ordained person to ordain you no?
Sūtra of Aṅgulimālika is one of my favorite sutras as it was the epic intellectual showdown between Angulimala & the Buddha's disciples. It literally bought tears to my eyes when the brilliant Manjusri finally said, "Angulimala, you have committed evil. If you are a Bodhisattva, where is a mara to be found?"
Tf that mean?
@@MiaKhalifa-mj5xzMara are a demon that tempts the Buddha. I thinks it’s supposed to mean “I can tell you aren’t enlightened because there’s no demons challenging you like they did me.”
Could you please share with the "Sutras of Angulimala" with me ?
@@MiaKhalifa-mj5xz If you are One Who Seeks To Ease Suffering, why are you an Avatar of Suffering through action? How can you be enlightened and still with so many demons within?
The only argument is the fact that many a soul does not express the conscience or virtue for the understanding of compassion. And so the compassionate must be understood in some way by those who understand causality and have received it's Mara and channel them as living prisons and lessons of balance. Not minds filled with hate,
but ones humbled and learned by it's effects on others. A mind not active within stillness is easily corrupted and paradoxically allowing far more insidious circumstances and the exponential spread of suffering.
The sweet and dangerous poison that can't be forgotten in the days spent under the bodhi tree is often produced with the same Disregard many a misinformed teacher fall into, failing to mention the lack of bandits and explosion in security
EDIT: and post-conqueror angst ironically leading the path towards enlightenment
I often find myself at odds with people when i talk about things in a buddhist way like when talking about subjects like redemption its like some people have no idea how to process the concept
Ok the thumbnail gave me nightmares thx lol. Thank you for this story though, I always get what I need to hear in the moment.
Happy Halloween 🩸🎃
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You make a very clear and non-intrusive explanation. Spoken in a western language, but with a deeper view.
This was so good! Thank you so much. I can't wait to explore more of this beauty
I wish Buddha was here today ❤
He is, tune-in.
Me too😊
He is! He always is
U r Buddha 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
He's there. His Dharma. Where you can be one.
Thank you my friend!! I needed this!!!❤❤❤
Amazing video, Jai Buddha
Wow. That's a very interesting story. Buddha must have known that by avoiding contact with Angulimala, it wouldn't have changed him in any way.
This story shows the effect which compassion and empathy can have even on criminals.
Criminals who commit violent crimes, might be those who need compassion and empathy more than anyone else.
Buddha provided this, and took Angulimala by surprise. Breaking down all psychological defense mechanisms he had built up.
There's a lot of wisdom in Buddhism. Very interesting.
angulimala should be a movie.. sounds like it would be awesome.. after that we can have mahakala..
There have been several movies in Hindi, Thai and other Asian languages.
Loved this. Thank you. We need more content such as this.
The story of angulimala is inspiring throughout time.
may it guide the lost souls of today as well!
🙏
More important than ever
In a just world he would've been broken upon the wheel.
@@Thegreatblazingsun buddhism has a karmic hell as well - the naraka.
but even that is not permament, although it stretches eons beyond imagination (Gautama Buddha meditated on the beginning of time and came to the conclusion that creation has neither beginning nor end). But believing in the afterlife and reincarnation and the cosmology is not really the core of buddhism
I appreciate the callback to philosophical schools of thought
What a striking video. I had to watch it twice.
I really appreciated this thank you ❤
Wonderful, thank you 💙
Namo buddhaya 🙏🙏🙏
You left out the best part. After the Buddha tells Angulamalla he has " stopped " Angulamalla asks " what do you mean you have stopped, your moving "., because, like a beam of light, no matter how fast he ran he couldn't approach the Buddha. The Buddha goes on to explain that he meant he had " stopped " hurting living beings
Yes he didn’t explain it exactly correct
Thank you 🙏 sir
Thank you
Very well told
very beautiful and inspiring, Oh lord i cannot keep up! please help me for i am nothing without your guidance and light
I loved this thank you so much, ive learnt so much 🥳
Even more than changing him the Buddha showed him the way back to the path he had come from. In many ways it's a restoration of the light within that was already there.
Very inspiring.
I wish I could see the story of Buddha again, it was awesome. It was a series on Netflix years ago.
I read a book about reincarnation called MANY LIVES MANY MASTERS written by a doctor who was a Christian and didn't believe in reincarnation - dr. Brian Weiss, where he himself using hypnosis and treated a patient with many fears and anxiety, and he found out she was recalling all of the memories in her past lives, after examining in many ways, he finally believed we reincarnate thru countless of lives until we all finish our lessons, paying all our debts and reincarnate no more, no more being born, getting old, sick and death.
I was so happy when I found out it's so true and so closed to Buddhism belief and what Buddha has taught us, he was never a god, he was greatest teacher of all mankind.
"We are the gods, and they are us" - Brian Weiss (MANY LIVES MANY MASTERS)
"I am the enlighten one, and you all shall be enlighten ones" - Gautama Buddha
If Buddhism is the only religion in this world, this earth will be happy n peaceful place.🙏🙏
No. People would twist it and pervert it, like they do with Christianity. In addition, the perpetrators of chaos and suffering provides us with the opportunity to learn compassion.
@@TimTheHuman-br1nlsome people just cant accept there must be balance, leave them be brother. But all is all
The Rohingya of Burma/Myanmar would strongly disagree
It's NOT the religion, it's the people. The mischief makers will alter it. They will create "denominations" to suit their bloody tendencies.
there all
You got me. Well spoken. Intelligent
Luv this❤
Namo Buddhaya ❤🙏
What a lovely story
outstanding
I love that most savage moment when the Buddha said to the assassin “I have stopped. (Insert name) it is you who must stop.
That is a mic drop moment!
This was beautiful💗
i think this video just saved my life
Interesting story. So there is hope.
One night a few weeks ago in my head an idea popped up from thin air. It was that, truly, EVERYONE has a bright future. You do have to face redemption sometimes through absolving and accountability but most of the time the sins we believe we have aren’t the sins we see in other people and may be focusing on. A prisoner who has life can have a bright future; but it’s muddy. A brighter future from what we can make of what we have. When I thought this I thought of ex coworkers I had that had no lights on when you looked at them, adults that had given up with their lives unhappily because it wasn’t what they wanted. Once we are able to break through that shell everyday with practice we can begin to practice behaviors aligned with our dharma; not all at once. But with patience temperance and practice
I've listened 3 times❤💎🙏
What did you learn and think of it please explain.
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Compassion is the key man. You can change anytime if you want too
@@Sanji_615 compassion is a disease
Man that story is insane
Virtue ethics is truly based
Peace be with you all ☸️🙏
I am living in Russia myself and I am very conflicted with all this, like I don't want to kill anyone, but what my government does by forcing people to go to war, to kill, to torture, and I am pondering that what if I were to be put in this situation, would I inflict evil to stop greater evil, it feels like there are so many dangerous people around... Like what is right to do in this situation...
People often take it only partially correctly.. Do not lose compassion but that does not mean not to act for dharma or justice. You can do the same with compassion. You can practice being untouched from the mind and yet acting. This is this misunderstanding that made india lose it's culture. The misunderstanding due to which tubet is almost lost today. Doing things at the level of mind is more difficult and profound than doing them at the level of body. Sacrificing a goat that has been your pet from it's infancy just to practice the principle of sacrificing is not good. Sacrifice from the mind.. Retract all the senses, tame yourself and then practice acting.. Compassion, dispassion and passion getting exerted at the same time, all at once.
Yes exactly. Can you elaborate on troubles in India, what conflict are you referring to
@@hans5500 I did not refer to any conflict per say in my comment. Please rephrase your question for what you want to ask specifically. General question will receive only general anwers
MUCH prefer this voice!!! please please keep it
The og master of talknojutsu
Is this story literal history or an allegory like most myths and legends? When I hear he chased the Buddha but could not catch him this sounds to me like a spiritual allegory. A very good one I might add.
Could be either. I choose to believe it’s real but exaggerated. Guy probably didn’t have hundreds of kills. Probably did chase the buddha, the buddha probably had good cardio from hiking all the time and could outrun the guy, probably reasoned with the guy and convinced him to try peace
Wake up!! It’s a legend. Pure souls cannot actually inhabit the planet of sun and heaven 🌍 , only heaven. For ex. JESUS another great sage also the sun, did not exist PHYSICALLY.
The difference is arbitrary.
Both mediums, both at the same time. What you can see at the moment is a reflection of I think what you can become focuses on when reading initially, along with the need to cohesively understand it which is a challenge. I love your last sentence
Think of maybe angulimala truly finding himself at the threshold of absolution and breaking point while seeing how tranquil and loving Buddha was of the universe as he walked.
I’ve been studying Buddhism for almost 15 years now. Along with daily meditation. The simile of the saw is a great teaching. But it really only applies to advanced practitioners. And advanced practitioners. I mean like the top .01% of monastics. The likelihood of being tortured, and still being able to have compassion for your torturers is basically impossible for anyone who is remotely normal. Just having compassion for someone who cuts you off in traffic It’s difficult enough lol.
This is my main problem with Buddhism and why I primarily study Vedanta instead. Studying Buddhism has given you these limiting beliefs that you must become a reclusive monk to achieve the height of human potential.
Vedanta gives historical examples of “worldly” people who were still able to reach the upper echelons of samadhi.
Your 15 years of practice would have provided you all the skills you need, all you need now is practical application and self belief.
I recommend the book “a series of lessons in raja yoga” by William Walter Atkinson for a very concise, practical guide.
Good luck on your journey x
@@finnmoranBoth theravada and mahayana buddhism gives examples of enlightened lay practitioners.
There are many lay non-returners in the suttas.
Vimalakirti sutra centers on a lay Buddhist meditator who attained a very high degree of enlightenment considered by some second only to the Buddha's.
Hmm for me i have compassion and knowing we are same self but why would it stop me from harming their ego, the suffering can then be a returned gift to them to help them awaken, no problem
@@arete7884If you and they’re the same self, then who is harming who’s ego? Why to even desire to destroy anyone’s ego? It's a tendency that you can do without.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
I must be misunderstanding something because if you forgive a sadist who relishes what he does it's like giving it the green light. Why don't we do away with the police then, seeing as we're ready to forgive people for crimes as soon as they're committed.. So if thieves come to rob me do I just wave it off, let it be, they're forgiven?.. Jeez, they wouldn't even creep inside if they knew that was my perspective- it would be a home invasion and I'd lose everything.
It's why talk can be cheap. Saying sorry is one thing, saying sorry and meaning it is better, but saying sorry and doing your utmost never to do it again is best.. If we forgive people who aren't even contrite because we should, isn't it the case that those sinning or commiting crimes are under even more obligation to be sorry and make reparations, do some penance?
I first read this story in jataka tales 😄
The timing.
Angulimala was not evil, He was just following orders from his Teacher. His only mistake was to place his teacher above himself. He was victim of blind faith.🙂
This story is such a copout, Angulimala did not deserve redemption, almost a thousand lives lost, angulimala deserves hell for a thousand lifetimes for that deed.
This is dharma. And dharma is the future of humanity.
Dhamma*
@@y1.5 *Dharma.
Eso Dhammo Sanatano
@@mtarkes Yes but the damma comes from Dharma. Original word is dharma. Not damma. Same way it's not magga. It's marga. "Buddham charanam gachami....Dharmam charanam gachami....Sangham charanam gachami". In prakriti dharma is called as damma. But Sanskrit is the authority language.
@@phoenixj1299which came first Prakrit or Sanskrit?
I would love if you could share the links of all the images in this video, or most of them at least thank you.
What always intrigues me, is the fact that there re so many people worldwide that follow these teachings and live a monastic life, yet there are so few who reach that enlightened state. I think there is something missing here. There must have been billions since the Buddhas lifetime who followed in his footsteps, yet the teachings seem to do very little in regard to becoming a Buddha.
Yes, it is tough to reach enlightenment. But that doesn't make the journey useless. This path itself is full of contentment and peace. You don't have to reach enlightenment to experience that! :)
Just by following the dharma for a few months can give you immense peace, contentment and joy in life.
Here comes DESTINY where not everyone is a chosen one but the calling is for all.
Because most people never stop looking for something to be different, a change to occur. They are trying to mimic someone else's path and use it as a comparative measuring tool for their own 'progress', becoming weighed down by pointless embellishments, symbolisms, rituals and all those kinds of things. The change will occur when you stop trying to change, its paradoxical - as is the very nature of the word 'non-duality'. It doesn't need to be some highly exotic experience, and the desire for such a thing keeps you on the same treadmill you are trying to escape.
All it takes is to turn your life into a continuous meditation, without the goal of reaching some kind of destination.
The journey is Just as important as the destination. Your perspective is limited to a single human lifespan.
Englihten monks cant be identified.Only a Budhdha can. I doubt even another enlighten monk can identify a another enlighten monk.
They just dont show off their powers (because they dont have any difilements in them).
Lambhorgini guy shows off becuase he has difilements in him.
Please note that some english words can be not very accurate.
i just had a realization, when a killer like angulimala can get redemption then why cant we human beings with lesser sins. Thanks for the video.
I know man, like, God, I'm sorry I murdered that box of donuts. Forgive me already?
Who says we can't
@@MiniMarshmello111 limiting thoughts and beliefs
Nothiing can wash away Karma just like that. That's a joke. You have no option but to go through it's consequences.
@@YtubeUserr You misunderstood, without effort one cant gain anything. but with right effort even mountains can be moved and the effort here is mostly clearing the karmic debt
This reminds me of the story about the Demoniac coming across Jesus in the Bible. Jesus refused him as a disciple, he was already with him when he had healed the man possesed by Legion.
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Why are Anguilimala's eyes so....cute? LOL great video and story
Any man no matter how endarkened or evil one may appear, will automatically be totally powerless to the man who has surrendered to the supreme being which is divinely powerful. You are totally naked and powerless in gods presence because for the first time in your life you are meeting the supreme nature which cannot be defeated or touched.
Precisely.
Silly flowery words don't hold much weight in the real concrete world child
(real concrete world), well that said it all.
cool✨✨
thanks for the sharing video😊
looking forward to the next video👍🌈🌈
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I clicked cause Angulimala was mentioned in a scene on a TV show called Island. oooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice to know!
This musssttt of have been inspiration for Thorfinns character in Vinland saga
I am a ronin and i will stay that way forever, cz its been too long and my way has served me well.
Dont take the easy road, its short and the fruit wont fill u.
How can one see a change in becoming a monk from a serial killer...That was not change..that was simply our inability to see how that path was flowing, and we perceived it as change...Our need to perceive changes in the world around, lies in our limited ability to see beyond the extent of our senses, memory and intellect, and in our terrible illusion of creating discrete entities with whom we relate mentally along our life...Life is continuous....
Exactly. It was meant to be So and no matter what anyone did.
We are literally ruled by something we cannot comprehend So we use our intellect or emotional instinct to cathegorize events in order to suit our narrative.
@@emeraudeazimile4596who are we ruled by?
He was a mass murderer for sure but driven by twisted sense of duty is what motivated him to kill. Compared with the motivations of other people who are serial killers his psychological profile doesn’t really even foot the bill. There would have to be accounts of him actually enjoying taking the lives of his victims to be considered a serial killer in my opinion.
Deontological ethics don't depend on rule of law though, only an understanding of the intrinsic value of the individual and how that translates into a concept of rights and their violation. Rule of law frequently ignores such concepts for utilitarian principle, preferring the group to the individual and setting aside notions of intrinsic value for conditional value to the collective.
Reminds me of the Biblical story of Saul and how he became Paul.
Saul always upset me. Please elaborate
@@hans5500 Saul was the number 1 killer of Christians. The Roman emperor at the time was not fond of them. Then at some point in his business of killing, he was confronted by God, and had a complete change of heart. He became one of the top promotors of Christianity, with the majority of the New Testament being attributed to him.
12:49 like religion, there are many philosophies….. use them all like a pallet of 🎨 paint - use the best one or make one up for the best ultimate outcome.
13:38 right car crash either it was an accident for a driver that wasn’t focusing or it was on purpose! Very different attitude with the same outcome
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“What is better: to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?” -Angulimala, probably
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i dig your brain and think that you are a beautiful person. hope you know you are worth it. peace love & empathy to you &yours.
buddha just sneakily used space bending magic to keep the murderer at bay and bedazzled him with his mind reading magic...
Guilt made him change..
It's not like normal people can change like him.
The deeds he has done made him carry that guilt.thats why he could bear all that abuse done on him after his transformation
Stories morph with every retelling...
Beautiful yet naive. Those teachings as well as the turn your other cheek of Jesus, do not apply to big scale conflicts. I was raised in medellin colombia during the 80s and 90s when medellin was the most violent city in the world. I learned there that the human being is an opportunistic animal, is part of our nature, so we are ready to take advantage if the opportunity presents it self and when abject poverty is killing a community then we will re-educate ourselves far beyond redemption to destroy and to replicate destruction.
I can't believe The Buddha fought Jerma on Thunder Mountain.
So ethical that you only see male monks ..
I think the video is hazey on a few important points. The tone is very much that the buddha asked Angulimala to stop his wrongdoings and not to stop his attatchment; to leave Samsara.
"I have stopped." Could be taken to mean, "I have realized Nirvana." Therefore his imperative is that Angulimala should do the same.
What was binding Angulimala wasn't some kind of evil intentions that had worked their way into his heart, but his honest yet nevetheless wordly desire to function within society. The injunction is not against killing or even against attatchment, but against over-adaptation: the essential message of the story is that one who becomes too well adapted to live in the hierarchical order of society is just as bound to Samsara as a serial killer in spite of their acclaim and accomplishments. As such, Angulimala's grusome tally is something of a metaphor.
It is misleading to cast deontological ethics as aw western invention that eastern societies have picked up. Societies by their very nature have deontological systems of rules even if this are totally implicit norms that have never been codified. In all societies there is a distinction between deontological rules and spontanenous responses to a situation.
Both western and eastern people are prone to the pettiness that cna arise from following rules too stringently. It is even because means of liberation like Buddhism exist that collectivist socieites can impose even more strongly on the individual at times than western societies.
The more effectively socialized people are, the more predjudice there is towards spontaneous relations with other people, and so Buddhism tries to return things to the Middle Way.
The point of awakening isn't to disrupt the ongoings of samsara or dissolve deontological structures into a compassionate utopia, but actually to sustain structures in their proper function. This is part of why Angulimala endures the torment of the people he wronged. This is an appropriate response to acts of a serial killer and to preserve Angulimala from them would be no less of an injustice than the wrongs he had committed in the first place. Again, the Middle Way.
He has no enemies
The purpose of illuminating a path to self transformation is to demonstrate that it cannot be done.
Nirvana and Samsara are one.
That is the Middle Way.
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to me, the most interesting part of his story was that he was already a stream enterer (1st stage of enlightenment) before going on his rampage, and that his teacher told him he would attain full enlightenment if he killed 1000 people. after hearing that, i was always left wondering if killing all those people was in some bizarre & roundabout way instrumental to his eventual enlightenment. it's also obviously not coincidence that his planned final victim was the buddha...
He attained enlightenment, he just needed to pay for it with other ppls lives. 🤦
@@solomonsurmounter_ "some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice i'm willing to make..."
Yea, I was kinda thinking that, I was also thinking that there are people in the real world worse than Anguilma....
Angulima asked Buddha how can I become your disciple and attain enlightenment when I had already caused so many these unforgivable sins. And Buddha asked him how long will it take for him to clean up all trashes in an abandoned house after 1000 years, he said maybe tons of days then Buddha asked him how long will it take for him to light up all the dark in the abandoned house and he said maybe a few seconds or minutes. And Buddha said all your sins is like the dark in the house, they're not real without ignorance if you consider those trashes are your real sins then you might never to clean all those mess up.
Yeah, here's the thing. Buddhism doesn't say that everyone has the same potential or desire for enlightenment. Angulimala was already a seeker of enlightenment so he had only to return to this path, he wasn't really a serial killer in the modern understanding of the term. He wasn't killing for fun or gratification like modern serial killers who have no concept or desire or potential for enlightenment. So had the Buddha encountered an Ottis Toole or Richard Ramirez or somebody like that, they almost assuredly would have killed him because all that talk about compassion would have no meaning to them whatsoever.
good point. Buddhism is very unpragmatic. No human behaves like that in real life scenarios.
It was Buddha presence that helped the guy wake up. True Enlightenment is extremely rare. The chances you’ll ever meet such a phenomenon is most likely never. Any chances of yourself becoming enlightened probably never .
That's one way to limit yourself.
@@sidhantsharma9961Could be, or it Could also be that he's being realistic and not willing to deliberately buy into his own illusion.
The power of perspective.
@@emeraudeazimile4596 Na. It is surely limiting oneself.
Let me ask you a question, how can you tell if someone is enlightened?
What are the metrics?
Their behaviour? That can be faked.
Their morality? That can be faked too.
Their story-telling abilities?
No, stop thinking about other people who are “enlightened” and start working on yourself.
The chance of life existing is also almost zero and yet it thrives all around us, if your path is to reach enlightenment there is nothing that can stop you other than yourself. The universe is fine tuned for life and life is just another way of looking at intelligence and enlightment is just another level of intelligence. If you set your intentions to reach that level than it is just a matter of time.
I wish before my death, I will be at least 10 percent enlightened, thats okay for me na
It's honestly amazing that someone could watch this and think it's actually accurate. XD
This reminds me of the story of Saul then named Paul of the New Testament.
The One who attained everything that it is in existence and beyond ...Even Heavenly Gods/ Goddesses, Dieties bows down and asked for his Teaching ..... and Angulimala is a mere human in pursued with raged and avengeful for he suffered in the past ...
Namo Buddha 🙏 🙏 🙏
8:00 yes. Similar to Jesus’ profound effect on the world. Now we can see the correlation and start to awaken to the truth that (we) you have the same power.
John 14:12-14
“(12) Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. (13) And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. (14) You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.”
When a woman is challenged by a difficult birth, it is Angulimala's sutra that is chanted to alleviate her anguish. For all the suffering that he had wrought, it is eclipsed by the Labour to bring new life into the world.
Quote: "Suddenly overwhelmed by guilt Angulimala fell at the Buddha's feet confessing his sins and expressing his deep desire to change his ways. The Buddha, exemplifying his boundless compassion, accepted Angulimala's plea for redemption." My question is, "By what authority or capability does the Buddha accept a plea for redemption?" The topics of confession of sins and redemption at the feet of an enlightened person, seems very similar to the theology derived from the New Testament scriptures of Jesus Christ. Plus Angulimala became a disciple of Buddha, and Jesus Christ had disciples. There are multiple common themes relating to Buddha and Jesus Christ. Plus there is the common theme of a dedication to non-violence.
How is Angulimala not Angri Mainyu the devil of of Persia? His story has a happier ending. This, in my opinion, gives a stronger hope for redemption than any salvation hope from every other religious tradition.
Probably the same root word as well I wonder....
It's not the same root. Angra means chaotic or malign and mainyu means mind. Anguli on the hand means fingers and mala is a word used throughout the Indian Subcontinent for garlands.
Parsis and Hindu share cultural background. Both are Arian Indo Iranian. Both Hinduism Zoroastrianism and Buddism have all roots in Sanskrit. But they developed local understanding in regards to sanskrit and philisophi.
early Buddism was developed by Persians and Indians, and Persians took the techings to china. Without Iranian Buddism would never go to china.
Stop projecting. Just because two words sound similar doesn't mean they have common roots. Angulimala literally means one who wears a garland of fingers.
@@infinitetradetm4513 I think, you're connecting things just for the sake of it. There's no such thing as "Iranian Buddhism" 😂 Also Linguistics has little to do with the cultural connections described by you, at least not in this case. Sanskrit, even it's earliest stage namely Rigvedic Sanskrit, has many words, that were adopted from the Dravidian and Munda languages. Whatever development took place after the Indo-Aryans entered the Indian Subcontinent, was a result of the cultural synthesis of Indo-Aryan with Dravidian and Munda. The word "Mala" as in garlands has most likely roots in Dravidian or Munda or an unknown native language family, that has since gone extinct. The reason for this is, there is no cognate for "mala" in any other Indo-European language, not even in the closest known ancestor of Sanskrit, which is Avestan.