My beautiful bride transitioned through suicide nine months ago after struggling with bipolar disorder for most of her life. Upon hearing that her kidney's were failing due to the medications and she was facing dialysis, she decided she'd had enough. Thank you for your words Michelle and I share my empathy with you. Mary has reached out to me in many ways the past several months, but i still would rather hold her in my arms.
I am so sorry for your loss 🙏 I had a lot of communications and experiences with a friend who died by suicide in 2018. Each one was so comforting and inspiring, but the devastation and grief was still overwhelmingly difficult. Wishing you strength and love on your journey ❤
We just recently lost our beautiful dog Lucy and I was sitting in the car listening to this video and also talking to her about how much I want to hear from her. I felt an urge to look at the clock and it was 222 so I looked up the meaning. “If you’re seeing the number 222 (or 22 or 2222) over and over again, there’s a good chance that someone from the spirit world is trying to communicate with you through what’s now commonly referred to as angel numbers.” Thank you so much for sending “Lucy Love” to me when I so desperately needed it. I’d like to thank you both for all you do allowing the Universe to use you to touch and heal so many people.
Wow, amazing interview! After my 23 year old son died from alcohol and drugs, and I had him channeled, I was all the same thing, that he actually stayed on this earth longer then intended to help me and I wouldn’t have been able to handle his passing anytime sooner because at that time I had a great support system. And I also feel blessed to have had him for as long as I did, now he’s my angel watching over me. ❤❤❤
I agree that you can hear from your loved ones even in deep grief. It was shortly after my son Doug died that I was outside on a beautiful day but mentally I was in heavy anguish. Very suddenly I felt a lightness and I heard in my head “Mom, remember how you always said you were inside my head? Well, now I’m in yours!” It’s hard to express in words the internal shift that happened in me. I knew in that moment it was Doug and he sounded so happy and playful. I knew he was ok. Suzanne, wonderful interview!
Thank you for this episode. After losing my husband suddenly last year due to a heart attack, hearing that changing your attitude can change the outcome instead of “going down that rabbit hole” helped me a lot. So many times I would play the “what if” game and I will now try to be grateful for our time together so that I can move forward without as many tears as before.
Oh my goodness!!! This interview was super interesting and it kept me on the edge of my seat!! Just amazing !! Two very spiritually gifted ladies and amazing personalities. I saved this interview and will watch it again sometime in the future. Love it!!!🙏❤️
We are all worried sometimes, but we must try asking GOD to help us lift up this cross, keep on knocking, keep on seeking, keep on asking. Persistently.
Oh thank you both so much. My husband passed 19 mos ago and the past few days I have been especially depressed. I can't feel grateful for our time together. It's too painful. But I'll try. I am grateful for you both.
My heart is so filled with gratitude that it's overflowing from my eyes. To say thank you seems inadequate. I am so deeply grateful to have been a part of today's experience of the reality of Oneness. Namaste.❤😍❤
Suzanne, thank you so much for introducing us to Michelle and her amazing life so far! I loved Michelle’s rememberances of Jesus/Yeshua walking into her operating room like her best friend - wondrous! - I’m trying to imagine what that would be like! Thank you, both of you for your grieving advice. It helps. Blessings! 🌟❤️🌟
THANK YOU, sooo VALUABLE !!! As trained medium with NDE, too - these conversation between mediums are sooo full of interesting truths, based on experience … SHARING these experiences and Insights IS PIVOTAL to spread KNOWLEDGE about spirit world and HOW REALITY really WORKS ! Thanks, blessings, love & light
@@Eio7 Seems YOU have difficulty to reconcile one with the other … I have not, because I know, religion is manmade and the bible was edited maaaany times. But Jeshua said as well: "Test the spirits". Only after you ate a foreign dish - you know, wether you like it or not. And that does not mean it's the same for everyone else. I prefer to rely on my own experience instead of believing anyone's dogma. Believing = Not Knowing. Blessings, love & light
@@gabrieleheikamp8584 Yes, I am asking exactly for that reason. I am concerned and wanting confirmation that something has changed since so many NDE’rs gravitate towards mediumship. For me, it is important to ask those who may have had a revelation on why the prohibition no longer seems to apply. Thanks for your response.
@@Eio7 NDE takes you to the other side, the Beyond, 4 D = higher frequency (that's why ghosts are usually invisible to our 3 D eyes). The Ancients even went to the other side on purpose - to gain INFORMATION (staying 3 days in darkness in a sarkophagus = sense deprivation), every shaman communes with spirit world for advice/healing for the tribe etc. It's quase natural that NDE's lead to more psychic abilities, mediumship is just one way to train and get the information, more easily. I think the bible prohibited it because Jehova also prohibited to worship other gods … "Thou shall not have other gods beside me …". So there were more than one??? And the bible isn't about the ONE GOD … but about mostly the Annunaki who came from the sky and played god. Look at 5th KInd, Paul Wallis & Mauro Biglino, Ex-Vatikan bible translator, revealing false translations in the bible. A prohibition only applies if you obey to it !!! It's about discerning Light from Dark. In this FREE WILL world we have to choose … How can you chose the Light if you don't know the Dark? In this duality world we learn by the contrast of polarity. Hope it helps. Blessings, love & light
I've seen Michelle on another show. Amazing woman with such a lovely, radiant energy. I pray I can fulfill my life's purpose in helping people heal from grief it is something that is so overlooked and oftentimes dismissed especially in the work place. Thanks Suzanne and team for another great episode❤❤
There has never been a one interview on your TH-cam Channel Suzanne, both Live and the ones that have been taped, that I didn't gain a tremendous amount of information and wisdom. Thank you and Sanaya, Stephanie, Bev, Lynette, staff and all others involved and those listening in, creating magnificent loving energy for all of us to experience.
Thank you so much for this wonderful interview. Michelle is a beautiful person inside and out! I felt like crying when I listened to her story! God bless you both ❤❤❤for the wonderful work you do ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Suzanne! I am truly grateful for Michelle's story! I resonated so well as I have two beloved family members across the veil, my beautiful son, and my beautiful mom.
Suzanne, I loved that you used the word remembrance. Wayne, you discussed this lady's experience while going through her seizure. I'm a psychic medium in training and had an out of body experience where I went to heaven and my guide told me we don't call it heaven we call it the remembering
Wow. This interview had me in tears for many reasons. Your challenges with your human world remind me a lot of mine. 😢 you’re such a strong person! I’m so sorry for the struggles you endured in your life but at the same time, I’m so glad to see you so full of gratitude for the journey that cracked you open to your full potential! Sending you and your family so much love and thoughtfulness! May you continue to be a light in this world. Namaste 🙏🏾
Thank you so much. This was so helpful to me. I am kind of new at this but need to learn so much still. I know I am opening my heart because more things make me cry..but I knew this would be the result when I prayed to open my heart. I give thanks for that.
I have a friend of my stepdaughter that her fiancé shot himself in front of her! She is a beautiful soul. She sure could use Michelle’s abilities ! Sending this video to her ❤️
what an amazing story thank's to both of you for sharing 💜I too had the experiences when I had falls to see a separating form( slow motion for me ) and no pain at that point !!
Thank you for sharing this interview. Much love to you both.❤ Have had the pleasure to meet Michelle and had readings with her. Beautiful person and such a bright light. Sending much love for her loss. Blessings to you both.❤❤
I love you Ma'am and I am so amazed at Michelle. OMG was she chosen or what!! Heck of a journey, very glad you are here with Ms Suzanne and all of us! :) Question: Michelle, How does one get certified?
This video gave me a sign that I asked for today and also was useful in relating to today's events. The only way this can be that I see is that there is more than one reality(I had far weirder synchronicities before that could only be explained similarly, so I'm not making this statement lightly). Perhaps prayer is actually a request to move to another reality =) Thank you, Suzanne. Michelle.
Thank you Suzanne and Michelle. ❤ I can't afford to take classes or se.inars, so I am trying to do all I can with what I have. Y'all are a wonderful beautiful part of my Sunday. Y'all are so beautiful. Thank you for what you do. I finally got a name for my Angel...he had said in the past that I could call him Steve. But, in my mind, that seemed weird, so last week during a meditation he cleared it up ...his name is Esteban Spanish for steve😂😂my family was from Spain. Just thought I'd share. I love you ladies💜💜💜
This life on Earth can not be just « much more reduced version » of some « much more beautiful reality », this life here has its advantages in comparison to other realities. We should love THIS life. I feel any really has its own « pro and contras ». And our perception of other side is very limited, therefore there are so many opinions about other realms even by NDErs. What I agree that universe is conscious and based on love, joy and infinite development. And that we can make this life much more harmonious.
I really enjoyed this and found it very moving. My only moment of questioning and worry came with the mention of mother Theresa. The controversial horrors that are now known about her life dealings… this was upsetting for me to learn about years ago so this is conflicting information with speaking of her in a light of saintly perfection… which she was not. So this would be all I would like to question. Thank you
I believe I am having trouble connecting with my Angels and Loved Ones because of my Severe Depression (all my life). Any advice would be appreciated on how to connect. I also believe I will chose to leave this life by my own hand. ❤
Dear One, although you may not feel you are connecting with angels, you are. Yes, your belief is clouded by sorrow, yet you are heard. You are loved more than you can fathom. This hour, we commission additional angels to bring sweetness and comfort to you. May you change your opinions of yourself, for there is joy and sunshine available for you. Hold on, there are blessings waiting for you. ❤ 🧡 ❤
I have been asking for guidance and protection from my guides or angels. The only thing that seems to happen is I get anger from my wife. I am beyond her forgiveness. I am tired of being hurt.
It was such a nice true spiritual channel and now you do what others are doing who try to attract attention at all costs - she die 3 times- yes sure but if she really die it would only be once and you know it.
If you ever get a chance to attend an IANDS event and listen to the endless stories, it's pretty clear that it's "near death" that's the misnomer. It's death. And a return. There's still a lot of MYSTERY in that, as with all spiritual matters, but these experiences are incredibly healing.
My beautiful bride transitioned through suicide nine months ago after struggling with bipolar disorder for most of her life. Upon hearing that her kidney's were failing due to the medications and she was facing dialysis, she decided she'd had enough. Thank you for your words Michelle and I share my empathy with you. Mary has reached out to me in many ways the past several months, but i still would rather hold her in my arms.
I am so sorry for your loss 🙏 I had a lot of communications and experiences with a friend who died by suicide in 2018. Each one was so comforting and inspiring, but the devastation and grief was still overwhelmingly difficult. Wishing you strength and love on your journey ❤
Thank you. My heartfelt condolences to you.
We just recently lost our beautiful dog Lucy and I was sitting in the car listening to this video and also talking to her about how much I want to hear from her.
I felt an urge to look at the clock and it was 222 so I looked up the meaning.
“If you’re seeing the number 222 (or 22 or 2222) over and over again, there’s a good chance that someone from the spirit world is trying to communicate with you through what’s now commonly referred to as angel numbers.”
Thank you so much for sending “Lucy Love” to me when I so desperately needed it.
I’d like to thank you both for all you do allowing the Universe to use you to touch and heal so many people.
Wow, amazing interview! After my 23 year old son died from alcohol and drugs, and I had him channeled, I was all the same thing, that he actually stayed on this earth longer then intended to help me and I wouldn’t have been able to handle his passing anytime sooner because at that time I had a great support system. And I also feel blessed to have had him for as long as I did, now he’s my angel watching over me. ❤❤❤
I am sorry for your loss, but glad of your comfort. Thank you for sharing your story.
Thank you so much by heart for your sharing your sorrow and your strength as well, that inspire all of us. God bless you!! ❤️
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U connected with a familiar spirit, the Bible says god forbids seeking out mediums.
I agree that you can hear from your loved ones even in deep grief. It was shortly after my son Doug died that I was outside on a beautiful day but mentally I was in heavy anguish. Very suddenly I felt a lightness and I heard in my head “Mom, remember how you always said you were inside my head? Well, now I’m in yours!” It’s hard to express in words the internal shift that happened in me. I knew in that moment it was Doug and he sounded so happy and playful. I knew he was ok.
Suzanne, wonderful interview!
Thank you for this episode. After losing my husband suddenly last year due to a heart attack, hearing that changing your attitude can change the outcome instead of “going down that rabbit hole” helped me a lot. So many times I would play the “what if” game and I will now try to be grateful for our time together so that I can move forward without as many tears as before.
Hugs❤
The afterlife of Billy Fingers really helped me. ❤
Blessings to you, Deb. 🙏🏻💕
Beautiful collaboration. Thank you so much. ❤
Oh my goodness!!! This interview was super interesting and it kept me on the edge of my seat!! Just amazing !! Two very spiritually gifted ladies and amazing personalities. I saved this interview and will watch it again sometime in the future. Love it!!!🙏❤️
Thank you, Suzanne, for providing us with such healing interviews. ❤❤❤❤
What a wonderful interview! So much great information-& confirmation! Thank you all.
What a beautiful interview ❤ thanks
We are all worried sometimes, but we must try asking GOD to help us lift up this cross, keep on knocking, keep on seeking, keep on asking. Persistently.
Oh thank you both so much. My husband passed 19 mos ago and the past few days I have been especially depressed. I can't feel grateful for our time together. It's too painful. But I'll try. I am grateful for you both.
Peaceful blessings 💕
It takes time and looking for the things that restore you, but almost 5 years since my husband died suddenly, it is easier to bear. Sending love ❤️
My heart is so filled with gratitude that it's overflowing from my eyes. To say thank you seems inadequate. I am so deeply grateful to have been a part of today's experience of the reality of Oneness. Namaste.❤😍❤
my vision is fading again- I saw
“She died three times and now she’s a mummy.” I blinked to focus and then had a giggle.
Yes! Grateful for you BOTH!!
Oh my heart hurts for Michelle. I hope that she is able heal from the tragic event of losing her partner
Thank you for this beautiful interview.
Suzanne, thank you so much for introducing us to Michelle and her amazing life so far!
I loved Michelle’s rememberances of Jesus/Yeshua walking into her operating room like her best friend - wondrous!
- I’m trying to imagine what that would be like!
Thank you, both of you for your grieving advice.
It helps. Blessings!
🌟❤️🌟
Suzanne thank you for getting so personal & sharing your beautiful authentic self. The progress are getting better & better 😊
Many tears with this one! Uplifting, inspirational, and beautiful. Thank you so much❤
THANK YOU, sooo VALUABLE !!! As trained medium with NDE, too - these conversation between mediums are sooo full of interesting truths, based on experience … SHARING these experiences and Insights IS PIVOTAL to spread KNOWLEDGE about spirit world and HOW REALITY really WORKS ! Thanks, blessings, love & light
Please explain how you are able to reconcile the Old Testament prohibition against consulting mediums and a nde meeting of Jesus?
@@Eio7 Seems YOU have difficulty to reconcile one with the other …
I have not, because I know, religion is manmade and the bible was edited maaaany times.
But Jeshua said as well: "Test the spirits".
Only after you ate a foreign dish - you know, wether you like it or not. And that does not mean it's the same for everyone else.
I prefer to rely on my own experience instead of believing anyone's dogma. Believing = Not Knowing. Blessings, love & light
@@gabrieleheikamp8584 Yes, I am asking exactly for that reason. I am concerned and wanting confirmation that something has changed since so many NDE’rs gravitate towards mediumship. For me, it is important to ask those who may have had a revelation on why the prohibition no longer seems to apply. Thanks for your response.
@@Eio7 NDE takes you to the other side, the Beyond, 4 D = higher frequency (that's why ghosts are usually invisible to our 3 D eyes). The Ancients even went to the other side on purpose - to gain INFORMATION (staying 3 days in darkness in a sarkophagus = sense deprivation), every shaman communes with spirit world for advice/healing for the tribe etc. It's quase natural that NDE's lead to more psychic abilities, mediumship is just one way to train and get the information, more easily. I think the bible prohibited it because Jehova also prohibited to worship other gods … "Thou shall not have other gods beside me …".
So there were more than one??? And the bible isn't about the ONE GOD … but about mostly the Annunaki who came from the sky and played god. Look at 5th KInd, Paul Wallis & Mauro Biglino, Ex-Vatikan bible translator, revealing false translations in the bible. A prohibition only applies if you obey to it !!! It's about discerning Light from Dark. In this FREE WILL world we have to choose … How can you chose the Light if you don't know the Dark? In this duality world we learn by the contrast of polarity. Hope it helps. Blessings, love & light
I've seen Michelle on another show. Amazing woman with such a lovely, radiant energy. I pray I can fulfill my life's purpose in helping people heal from grief it is something that is so overlooked and oftentimes dismissed especially in the work place. Thanks Suzanne and team for another great episode❤❤
There has never been a one interview on your TH-cam Channel Suzanne, both Live and the ones that have been taped, that I didn't gain a tremendous amount of information and wisdom. Thank you and Sanaya, Stephanie, Bev, Lynette, staff and all others involved and those listening in, creating magnificent loving energy for all of us to experience.
WE love Michelle!
Looking forward to this event and a bit jealous, too! I've only died - once! 😁
This was a beautiful interview. She has a lovely vibration to her. I’m sure she’s an amazing medium! ❤
Beautiful! sending love and light from Argentina ✨✨
Absolutely loved this ! Thank you a million times over … both of you!❤️🙏
Love you guys! Suzanne & Michelle 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
My 2 favourite special women ❤❤❤❤❤
Very enlightening! Wonderful guest. She’s been through so much trauma too. Can help ppl so much ☺️
Thank you so much Suzanne for bringing us this info and loving energy. I feel the Light! ❤
Thank you for sharing this very personal story.
What a beautiful conversation.
Thank you Suzanne and Michelle ❤❤
Thank you so much for this wonderful interview. Michelle is a beautiful person inside and out! I felt like crying when I listened to her story! God bless you both ❤❤❤for the wonderful work you do ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Suzanne! I am truly grateful for Michelle's story! I resonated so well as I have two beloved family members across the veil, my beautiful son, and my beautiful mom.
What a beautiful interview! Thank you both! ❤
Love you Michelle and Suzanne! ❤
This has been such an incredible eye opening interview! Thank you so much for sharing! My prayers will be with you,
Thank you for being real!
We are never alone. Thank you for that beautiful message ❤
Wow, this was an inspiring interview! Thanks for having her on!
Wow. Amazing. Thank you for sharing. ❤️🙏
Suzanne, I loved that you used the word remembrance. Wayne, you discussed this lady's experience while going through her seizure. I'm a psychic medium in training and had an out of body experience where I went to heaven and my guide told me we don't call it heaven we call it the remembering
Love these 2! Amazing. ❤
A good reminder just how human we are.
Incredible interview !!! Beautiful
guest … thank you both 🙏🏼😇
Wow. This interview had me in tears for many reasons. Your challenges with your human world remind me a lot of mine. 😢 you’re such a strong person! I’m so sorry for the struggles you endured in your life but at the same time, I’m so glad to see you so full of gratitude for the journey that cracked you open to your full potential! Sending you and your family so much love and thoughtfulness! May you continue to be a light in this world. Namaste 🙏🏾
This was such great confirmation for everything I have always believed in. Thank you sooo much❤
I’m sending you love and light suzzane x
Thank you so much. This was so helpful to me. I am kind of new at this but need to learn so much still. I know I am opening my heart because more things make me cry..but I knew this would be the result when I prayed to open my heart.
I give thanks for that.
Thank you Sooo Amazing.. Love is soo Beautiful
Beautiful sharing. Thank you ❤🙏🏻
Omg ❤ got so connected with this 🥰
Thank you Suzanne and Michelle for shining your light and helping so many. Much love
Thank you for sharing your pain ❤ Sending heartfelt prayers
Thank you, both.😊
Shew Suzanne..I’ve followed you for a while..This perhaps is the most powerful message..
I just adore you Susan! I wish I could afford to go on the Greece ship trip. I so want to go to Sedona retreat hopefully next year!
🥰 Thank You💕
Amazing I just loved listening to Michelle thankyou Suzanne and Michelle ❤
Thank you both😊🙏
Thank you for sharing this with us! I have experienced so much loss in my life and Michelle's words are so healing!❤
Suzanna are u ok? I am feeling something is bothering you in this video. I hope you are well!
I felt that was quite obvious myself. She looks like she feels ill. God bless her for getting this to us
amazing = thank you!!
Many blessings to you both 🙏🏻
I have a friend of my stepdaughter that her fiancé shot himself in front of her! She is a beautiful soul. She sure could use Michelle’s abilities ! Sending this video to her ❤️
Thank you ❤
Thank you very much for this beautiful and touching interview.
Beautiful interview. Thank you. Many insights...so helpful!
Blessings 😂❤🎉
what an amazing story thank's to both of you for sharing 💜I too had the experiences when I had falls to see a separating form( slow motion for me ) and no pain at that point !!
Thank you for sharing this interview. Much love to you both.❤ Have had the pleasure to meet Michelle and had readings with her. Beautiful person and such a bright light. Sending much love for her loss. Blessings to you both.❤❤
You interview the best people Suzanne! Thank you. ❤️
⚘Thank you both.⚘
Such a good storie u see amity soulmate man coming into her life in 2 years or so ❤
Best show. Thank you both❤
Thank you so much for this Clare and Suzanne. So comforting ❤
Beautiful interview...Michelle is so inspirational and lovely...thanks for introducing us to her, S! Much love to you both!!!
Thank you both for this beautiful video 💗
Wonderful interview. I had some good insights which I treasure with gratitude and love. Thank you Suzanne and Michelle. ❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
What a beautiful episode, thank you so much ❤️
I love you Ma'am and I am so amazed at Michelle. OMG was she chosen or what!! Heck of a journey, very glad you are here with Ms Suzanne and all of us! :) Question: Michelle, How does one get certified?
This video gave me a sign that I asked for today and also was useful in relating to today's events. The only way this can be that I see is that there is more than one reality(I had far weirder synchronicities before that could only be explained similarly, so I'm not making this statement lightly). Perhaps prayer is actually a request to move to another reality =) Thank you, Suzanne. Michelle.
Fascinating and enjoyable❤
Thank you Suzanne and Michelle. ❤ I can't afford to take classes or se.inars, so I am trying to do all I can with what I have. Y'all are a wonderful beautiful part of my Sunday. Y'all are so beautiful. Thank you for what you do. I finally got a name for my Angel...he had said in the past that I could call him Steve. But, in my mind, that seemed weird, so last week during a meditation he cleared it up ...his name is Esteban Spanish for steve😂😂my family was from Spain. Just thought I'd share. I love you ladies💜💜💜
So interesting ❤❤
This life on Earth can not be just « much more reduced version » of some « much more beautiful reality », this life here has its advantages in comparison to other realities. We should love THIS life.
I feel any really has its own « pro and contras ». And our perception of other side is very limited, therefore there are so many opinions about other realms even by NDErs.
What I agree that universe is conscious and based on love, joy and infinite development. And that we can make this life much more harmonious.
I really enjoyed this and found it very moving.
My only moment of questioning and worry came with the mention of mother Theresa. The controversial horrors that are now known about her life dealings… this was upsetting for me to learn about years ago so this is conflicting information with speaking of her in a light of saintly perfection… which she was not. So this would be all I would like to question.
Thank you
Oh Susan I love you in pink!!
Made it!!
🙏💫💖🌱😇Thank-you xoxo
I believe I am having trouble connecting with my Angels and Loved Ones because of my Severe Depression (all my life). Any advice would be appreciated on how to connect. I also believe I will chose to leave this life by my own hand. ❤
Dear One, although you may not feel you are connecting with angels, you are. Yes, your belief is clouded by sorrow, yet you are heard. You are loved more than you can fathom. This hour, we commission additional angels to bring sweetness and comfort to you. May you change your opinions of yourself, for there is joy and sunshine available for you. Hold on, there are blessings waiting for you. ❤ 🧡 ❤
I have been asking for guidance and protection from my guides or angels. The only thing that seems to happen is I get anger from my wife. I am beyond her forgiveness. I am tired of being hurt.
I'm so very sorry. Please don't give up. Life is worth living
NDE, Near Death Experience.
SDE, Shared Death Experience.
STE, Spiritually-Transformative Experience
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I’ve seen this before …was this posted months ago??
Maybe you saw Michelle in another interview? This was new today.
🎉?? Lorna says ANIMALS DONT HAVE A SOUL,,,🎉.
If she died FOUR times, would that have made her WELL DONE? 😆
one would hope.
It was such a nice true spiritual channel and now you do what others are doing who try to attract attention at all costs - she die 3 times- yes sure but if she really die it would only be once and you know it.
If you ever get a chance to attend an IANDS event and listen to the endless stories, it's pretty clear that it's "near death" that's the misnomer. It's death. And a return. There's still a lot of MYSTERY in that, as with all spiritual matters, but these experiences are incredibly healing.