I'm honestly often astonished at how ppl can watch Nick's videos. They make me physically nauseated, like the sounds, all the screaming and drama, and the food. He needs some serious help and a long vacation from the platform. Thanks for making a comprehensive video on this whole thing without resorting to body shaming Edit: omg mom I'm famous! I'm seeing a lot of ppl commenting how it's helped them with their own EDs, so I don't mean to offend anyone of y'all, if it's helped I'm glad and I hope you are all healthy and happy =)
I can totally relate... These videos are just too hard to watch. Also, I'm quite "shocked" by the wasting of the food... We are in a time in which ressources shouldn't be wasted like that
The thing that bothers me is when people mention him being a vegan they don't bring up the fact that he was a raw vegan. Which is an unstable and dangerous form of veganism.
Yes! Also the fact that people think he was one of the healthiest people alive because he was vegan. I think he has never had a healthy relationship with food
@@-Desire People conveniently like to forget that the whole reason why he left being a raw vegan in the first place was because he was deficient in a lot of essential nutrients that he needed. It's so much easier to use fatphobia to pretend he was ever healthy. He never was. What he did wasn't healthy and wasn't any better than what he's doing now. Just because he looked better doesn't mean he was healthier.
Yes exactly. I know from experience with myself and with others who have done extreme vegan diets, that most people who do it already have an unhealthy relationship with food. I even dare to say that extreme veganism can cause some kinds of hallucinations or psychosis. I know all the vegans are going to come for me. This is just my personal experience and my experience with what I've seen from people I know personally
Yesssss scream it from the rooftops!!! Ex vegan here and there is so much raw vegan rhetoric out there that's so harmful. I almost started feeling bad for eating cooked vegan food bc it wasn't "healthy" enough.
I didn't watch. Why can't people blank out eating noises like they do for swear words? Unlike people who choose to be offended by swear words, people with misophonia and other auditory processing disorders don't have a choice.
yeah as someone with misophonia, i had to be on alert with the skip button. it took less than a millisecond of mouth noises for me to want to curb stomp my own laptop and chuck it out of the window. i wish there was consideration for people with auditory disorders when editing this video
The saddest thing is that even when he was skinny he had an eating disorder where he would starve himself, now he has the exact opposite of that disorder.
That’s very common unfortunately. I’m sure he never got help for this restrictive Ed, resulting in his disordered eating to continue differently. Binge eating AND anorexia are BOTH disorders. Important to remember that
I LOVED how you said he is deserving of empathy and genuinely wished him the best. Idk but I really felt that. I don't even watch his videos. Spread your light, girl.
I will never understand why people want to watch others eat or freak out on camera. Its so deeply disturbing/gross and over-stimulating to me. My heart breaks for him.
People like myself enjoy seeing train wrecks. It’s normal to look at others in a fucked up situation and think “glad that’s not me and I better learn not to end up like that”
Some of them are reasonable who just talk and says whats going on and are calm and composed. Although some are not, like Nikocado's. I too choose not to watch his videos.
I can't believe I watched him when he was a raw vegan in the vegan community. He clearly knows what he's doing, and I hope he's not too wrapped up in this character/in it for life.
He does definitely know. But yeah, I think he's also too far gone. It's so hard to pull back after something becomes a habit, even if it was just for attention.
I get paid to smoke weed on my TH-cam channel lmao😅 i got ads on my videos .. The pandemicc showed alot of people you can’t rely on a 9-5 solely on its own💯🙏
it seems like he is and was on both ends of the ED spectrum, being a raw vegan and becoming malnourished from it, and now becoming obese and over eating, both were and are unhealthy eating habits
@@haizee2330 I hate that y'all are roasting each other because I just want everyone to get along but I gotta say, "single spinster" is one of the funniest insults I have ever heard
i beilieve he could. he's very entertaining. very dramatic. and back in his vegan days he was also very authentic and vulnerable at times. he's really got a lot going for him.
honestly to the point he's gotten to now i believe that's something the masses would flock to see. it's essentially the same thing he did but backwards. i'm sure it'll attract just as big of a crowd.
Simplest solution: leave him alone, literally. He obvious thrives on the attention his drama elicits therefore remove that from his existence and he'll probably be forced to seek some other (more valid and rational) reason for living
@@nisarojas2869 yes, an act for views and attention. By leaving him alone/not giving him views and attention, he will probably stop. That's the whole point of the comment lmao
Sure it may be the simplest solution but an unrelastic one because you forgot to mention that he has a BIG (No pun intended) following. You can't just simply tell his audience to stop watching him. That's like saying, stop following the Kardashians in order for them to stop apprearing in mainstream media but with their amount of followers. That is next to impossible.
Yeah, that intro made me tear up. I do feel for this guy, junk food is designed to be addictive, without even nourishing your body. In a way, he's starving, even as he gains more weight.
I'm a fat guy. I mention this as I don't want what I'm about to say to be taken the wrong way and I've no desire to shame anyone. I love food, I love cooking and I've worked in hospitality, bars and kitchens my whole life, with a huge passion for ingredients flavours and food. I find mukbangs absolutely sickening. Like foul beyond belief. I can't see any love of food in them, they scream sadness and sickness. There's no passion, no care and no love in any of them. I find it difficult to understand what the appeal is in anyway. If you love food, you have to respect it. That requires you value yourself. You can love food and even be overweight, but force-feeding yourself to death is actively disturbing and should not be profitable or celebrated in any way.
it's definitely the way dramatic mukbangs the west have created. mukbangs have existed long before this drama of shock value in other countries where it was just talking and enjoying food with your viewers
Watch Mukbangs in their original form. Westerners like Nick bastardized it to the point of making disgusting ASMR videos and not bringing any cultural value.
The best thing people can do for him is to stop watching and interacting with him. He’s doing it for fame and fortune, and he won’t stop till he thinks he wants to, but I feel as if his greed would put a halt to that. His health is rapidly declining, and if we stop watching videos that encourage his lifestyle, he might stop and work on himself.
To me you bring up the most frustrating point. People won’t stop watching. The internet has let us arrive to the circus and stay anonymous. No one even has to know we attended the “freak show”
I totally agree with you. I can't understand why anyone would go to that extreme to get some fame and fortune. I could never jeopardise my health just to make money
That's gonna be a problem for sure tho. A lot of people watch him because he's unhinged, ordinary and entertaining. Craziest part about all of this is that, even if "regular" people stop watching him, he'll still probably get views from fetishers/feeders. They LOVE those types of video. The bigger someone gets, the more it pleases them. Just sick.
agreed this is why i dont watch him also anytime i hear about this guy it reminds me of the south park episode were everyone was glorifying obese people the episode was called raising the bar i think cant remember the title
Seeing Nickado smash and throw around food feels like a punch to the face to anyone who struggles to finance their grocery shopping. Imagine having to get meals out of food banks and puzzling with coupons, and then you come by this type of content.
Man, it really makes me sad seeing how downhill Nick's health has gone, I hope he can somehow get his act together and eventually become a healthier and happy person. The fact that moving is painful for him is a massive red flag Edited comment for better wording
According to him, his health has always been a concern, even when he was skinny and vegan. He literally used to eat nothing but avocados everyday for months straight, which is extremely unhealthy and dangerous. He's clearly not healthy now, but he also wasn't back then either.
I have never seen him without the extreme persona he puts on so hearing him talk to Trisha was shocking. Like he can actually form sentences? and he’s well spoken? Man, that makes this even more depressing.
I personally believe that Nick is a very intelligent and talented person with a very self-conscious sense of humour. What led to what we see now is his mental health issues that resulted in an addiction to YT “fame” and ED. He was being malnourished due to a very specific strict raw vegan diet first, and then proceed to be extremely overweight. I am living with ED myself for more than a decade and I may be wrong, but I think that even on his “better” pictures where he is thin and look happy he is deeply sad most of the time. I am afraid that it’s minutes from a point of no return now for him, sadly.
Thank you! I feel like A LOT of people forget that he wasn't healthy physically and mentally when he was vegan at all. That man was eating nothing but avocados for MONTHS straight, how is that healthy? He isn't healthy now, but he sure wasn't back then either. Unfortunately for Nick, he was truly never given the chance to "step out" of his unhealthy eating habits. He got rid of a horrible one, just to enter...ANOTHER horrible one. He needs therapy and rehabilitation quick, especially before It's too late.
100% this - NEITHER lifestyle is at all healthy. I'll admit to having done this exact same cycle in university (very different circumstances, but unfortunately similar outcome). The malnourishment seriously screws up your metabolism - your body learns to conserve energy because it's used to not getting enough, so when you suddenly start eating all kinds of food that you haven't been eating before, you gain & retain weight much more easily. That's why crash/starvation diets don't work - your body learns to retain calories in the lean period, so when you start eating normally again, you just gain all that weight right back. It's not an easy cycle to break - and honestly, he's so far down the hole at this point, I don't know if it's even breakable.
The moment she said he had full scholarships and went to all these schools, and was even on the Dean's list, I immediately thought it could be gifted kid burnout. Like, as someone that has suffered it and has seen people tear themselves apart because of it, I feel like he was so caught up being a prodigy and being the perfect vegan and pleasing all these people that it just...broke him down. This is NOT an official diagnosis, but part of me strongly suspects it could be the case in my own opinion. The fact that he has depression and OCD and even ADD (like I do), it just...fuckin makes sense to me, just because I was also a "gifted kid" with ADHD (although undiagnosed till very recently) for the longest time. And man...it makes me so sad
Yes!!! I relate so much. Though I wasn’t gifted or anything like a prodigy I was considered very advanced for my age group. Dr K from healthy gamer has some great videos on ADHD and on gifted kid burnout.
If he has ADD emotional regulation is such a challenge. It is also very difficult to regulate eating. Sometimes that can get overlooked especially if he's not being treated for it. Picking a musical career is such a disciplined career so it could be a way to gain control
Hmmmmm….me too! Just got on ADHD meds and am so fucking boring now. Normal is so boring but it’s nice to be calm and in control of my emotions and actions.
I wish people would stop giving him attention at all because at this point, I'm seriously wondering if his online personal hasn't taken over, and taking down his husband with him.
People love to see a trainwreck when it's about to derail and Nik is self-aware of that. He says he'll stop when he's 35 but as long as he gets attention and get that YT money, he won't stop.
@@Hollyy_0 Sad to say this but i don't think so. He isn't really violating anything except for his health. YT doesn't take down ppl based on controversy. If anything, YT loves it. Brings in more traffic
Same here!!! Nightmare day at work and suddenly everything is better! Not for the subject of the video but for Madison that always does a PHENOMENAL job at her videos and has a soothing voice and beautiful face. 🖤
I'm recovering from my ED and his videos make me so uncomfortable. He's the physical embodiment of what binge eating disorder felt like to me. Every video of his always leaves me feeling uneasy yet so motivated to keep up the good work and fully recover, it's weird.
THANK YOU! I’ve been saying this for years. Especially that clip of him, Trisha and that other man, where they are looking at the camera making what they have been trained to believe are attractive faces while making as much noise while eating as possible and Orlan throwing food on him and shaming him and the creepy videos where he’s eating massive amounts of like cheesies or summat, all wet, while Orlan screams at him to eat more while shaming him and humiliating him?!
I'm at the beginning of the video, but I just wanted to mention that he was already dealing with an eating disorder (orthorexia) when he was seemingly "healthy". He was never truly healthy. He's been battling for a long time, and I only wish him all the best. I don't watch his videos, but I hope he gets the help he needs.
Your mentioning of orthorexia makes me think of another TH-camr that I'm very worried is going down that path. He's not vegan at this point, but he has a tendency to completely give things up for a year to see if the habit sticks. I'm really concerned that this year's task is going to start him down the path of an ED.
This is the first video on the subject where I feel like, though objective and critical, was the first that I could say “if Nicocado saw this whole video I bet he would feel respected and even inspired.” this video was so fair and compassionate and respectful. So many people use the diet “concern” issues and problematic drama as an excuse to make fun of him.
I read an interview with a girl who was suffering from anorexia and bulimia when she was a teenager, so around 2010, and she would basically spend all of her pocket money to buy candy for her siblings and watch them eat it, every single bite. She was feeding on the satisfaction that she's not the one who ate all of this and it propelled her to not eat at all. Imo mukbangs operate on similar mechanizm nowadays.
Absolutely, in the heights of my Ed I would watch an unhealthy amount of mukbangs, just to get satisfaction through witnessing other people eat monstrous amounts of trash food that I was restricting myself from. I stopped watching around the time I decided to get better, but I've met a lot of people with Ed's who watch this kind of content for the exact same reason. Nowadays I only click on mukbangs where the person is eating healthy amounts of food, and shows an appreciation for it. But I will be the first to say, that definitely, at least a small chunk of the audience who keep watching these are people who struggle with their relationship with food.
@@fersaid1582 TW: ED I never rly watched mukbangs but amberlynn Reid who is a very overweight individual, I did watch her kinda for shock value? To see what I could turn into yk, to scare u off. I think that’s also why so many ppl with an ed watch supersize vs superskinny- also for the feeling of superiority. I can also imagine some people watching it as it’s something they can’t have yk with all the food
Every single person on TH-cam I've seen that stopped being vegan had an eating disorder that their veganism was masking. The issue is not the vegan diet. It's the eating disorder causing severe restriction.
I have friend who died from malnutrition from a vegan diet and he wasn’t restrictive except that he was vegan, (I would argue that veganism is an ED, although I respect your different view point on that.) His name was Marlo Ousterhouse (which is Dutch for Easter bunny❣️✨🙃) He got a type of scitzophrenia that is caused by a vegan diet that doctors don’t often mention anymore because vegans don’t want to hear it 9 times out of 10 (or more.) I had to watch a beautiful soul starve to death after having already watched his life fall apart: all from veganism. 🥺🤭😭 He went from a happily married father of 3, to a malnourished man in alone in a trailer, despite all his best efforts (he just couldn’t bring himself to believe the doctors that his diet was what was causing the issues, & blamed himself & just isolated more and more,😖😣😭) and then finally starved to death completely. It is because he is not here to speak for himself that I speak for him now. I apologize if this seems an unfair burden to share with you, but I assure you I only share this with you because I feel it is important wisdom that needs to be shared, especially in this context. What you are implying isn’t accurate, though I believe you about your personal experience; that is accurate, you are the only authority on your own life and I respect that and you. I truly wish you well in all your endeavours, you seem a wonderful person from what I’ve seen of your comments. 💖✨ Thanks for listening (if you chose to read this.) Many blessings and I hope you have a wonderful day. 💖✨🙏🏻🥺✌🏻
@@aradialefae4777 I am truly sorry for your loss. But veganism doesn't cause schizophrenia nor does a balanced vegan diet cause a person to starve if their body is compatible with veganism, and most bodies are. You should maybe deal with your grief in some other way rather than spreading misinformation of a lifestyle that has been around since humans have been around.
Agree, my fibromyalgia is so much less restrictive from eating vegan. I do not do smoothies and salads, but a well balanced diet with fake meat and beans. My vitamine levels and energy improved so much. I never ever watch vegan youtubers, because they always go all in to an extreme. It is really disturbing
Nick is disturbing to watch because I know he’s putting on an act for a camera but you got to know that there’s real pain behind those eyes and it’s probably an outlet to let out all of his emotions. He can’t have happpiness like this, tons of money, sure, but I’m sure he hates what he has become and wishes he could earn the same amount of money on TH-cam with a different lifestyle and he probably doesn’t believe he can do it that’s why he’s stuck to this character for so long.
I was adopted and my parents told me I was adopted very early (I was 4 when I first remember being told) my parents stressed to me and my twin that it didn’t mean our birth mother didn’t love us, quite the opposite. And my adoptive parents also made sure to say that being adopted didn’t make us diffrent. We celebrated our Adoption Day every year. It’s sad that he views his adoption negatively.
😭 I’m glad you have such loving parents. They really make a world of difference, don’t they? I’m sorry your birth mom felt the need to let you go because if she has a conscious, I’m sure it kills her, but she put you in a better situation ❤️
My high school bestie was adopted too and with her papers is a note from her bio mom about how much she loves her but is too poor and unstable to raise a baby alone. Your mom loved you a lot
It is important to remember, when he was younger and vegan, he wasn’t happy and healthy. He was suffering from an ED (he has stated as much). He went from one extreme to another but both are EDs, and we shouldn’t glorify his extreme veganism either. Still horrible to see how much he is spiraling for the sake of internet fame, he needs real help.
exactly!! i find it disturbing that people like to compare photos of him during his raw vegan days where he was deeply unhealthy to now. he wasn't healthy then and isn't now, but people like to glorify him then bc of fatphobia.
Absolutely. As a vegan, it sickens me when ppl think of veganism as a "health diet", and take it to extremes, when in reality it's an ethical concept. It's for animals. It has nothing to do with health or losing weight. All the ppl who make videos "why I stopped being vegan" are generally the ones who thought that eating spinach goop with carrot juice is "veganism". When in reality it's just unhealthy diet. Veganism is just another biologically normal way for humans to eat. It's also not healthy just cause it's vegan. There is vegan junk food after all, saying it as I'm eating large pizza. There was a research that compared health markers of omnivores and vegans, and apart from vegans having lower bad cholesterol, there wasn't really any other differences.
two things: 1) i HATE how his “character” is playing on fatphobic stereotypes like not showering, only eating unhealthily, binging, etc. 2) he’s never been “healthy.” from extreme veganism to what looks like BED, his relationship with food has always been unhealthy. maybe more now than then, but people didn’t call him out for being unhealthy because being skinny=healthy in media, and being overweight=unhealthy. in his case, both are unhealthy due to his relationship with food. that’s rlly all it comes down to. (+if his doctors gave him any medical treatment/attention about his weight gain which they prob did considering his videos abt it). but honestly, his relationship with food is the root of the problem.
Also, I feel people keep buying into the idea that he was a nice and emotionally adjusted person before all this when it seems he wasn't. I guess suggesting that people watch The Right Opinion's 4 hour video on him may be much, but even people who have watched that video miss the point. Nik's cycle is to get angry at something someone said and then either exaggerate or lie to tear that person down. He has always done strange things and he has admitted to being especially sensitive to rejection.
Speaking from experience, creating a character for yourself often means you become the character. When it was because my old man called me crazy for some many years that I decided to lean into it, or as a young man, doing anything to prove I was the craziest guy on the street, to becoming the monster people accused me of being, on & on, slowly killing the child I had once been, to match what people told me I was, if you tell yourself a story long enough, it becomes your truth. I think he has some pretty serious mental health issues happening (I also do) & he really should address that. Surely he has enough money now that he can use it to stay afloat while he does the work he needs to do until he can choose a new, better path forward. I'm not sure that marriage is healthy or safe either.
See Nikocado's musical talent he had back in the day actually makes me feel bad for him even more than I already did. Like, he could have made some serious money in musical professions without sacrificing his health for views and "fame".
This has probably been the hardest vid for me to get through. I just can't understand how people can watch mukbangs when they make me feel like I want to gouge out my ears! I'm not even wearing headphones and the eating noises are torture. That said, it's a great deep dive and interesting to see how talented he actually is! Even if it's a shame what's been going on.
I am not even mad at him anymore, it is just really sad. We are watching someone eating away their sanity and life. It will not be long till we see a post by Orlin that Nick had a heart attack and passed...Would not be surprised...
How when orlin will be right beside him, they weighed themselves and orlin is only 10 pounds lighter than nick and lies about being a vegan....he is gross
I feel the same watching Eugenia Cooney (sic) videos. She's obviously suffering from anorexia, yet receiving no treatment. I check in just to see that she hasn't passed away. This saddened me.
This whole story makes me so sad. He's a genuinely talented human, he's smart, he's musically talented, he's actually really funny too. I really like nick. I hate to see him choose this self destruction continuously. It just makes me sad. You could call this the tragedy of Nick Perry, complete with the heroes fatal flaw. Tragic.
To the people who talk about how he used to be vegan: He wasn't extremely healthy back then either, not only physically, but mentally too. The vegan community on youtube was super toxic back then and a source of major stress for him. Additionally, raw veganism, although doable, can be very hard to pull off. (It is very possible to thrive on a healthy vegan diet! Cooked foods make it easier) I hope he can get better both mentally and physically in the future, vegan or not.
@@kimberlyw2591 the chokehold freelee the banana girl had on the dietary/vegan community needs a deep dive investigation. convincing people that eating pounds of banana and dates was a normal standard diet with no cooked foods, fats/oils and discouraging people from taking supplements. really caused massive eating disorders and health issues amongst so many people. the vegan community on youtube was really cultish in the 2010's. I’m not surprised Nick went from one extreme to another without seeking and help
@@abbygibbs9735 nothing wrong with veganism done right. Basically anything meat or dairy based you can get plant based now. Everyone should take a B12 supplement. Only been doing it 33 years. Raw veganism is too hard and ridiculous to say the least. Hopefully his obesity/cholesterol levels doesn’t kill him before he can and will turn this around.
I'm a borderline personality, and I find this "crazy". I am prone to self-sabotage, but I would never make it a career. I'm not going to judge their character, but he undermined his own talent. Very tragic. Love yourselves everyone love yourselves. If you don't know how, please get therapy. Therapy is the bravest decision anyone can make.
The idea that mukbangs make others feel full is wild to me. Because they gross me out. I dont feel full, I just lose my appetite. While your parts, which is more tame and calm and reminds me of a normal mealtime, make me hungry.
i can understand asmr of a nice, well-dressed, and balanced meal, because sometimes people are hungry or bored and want to gawk at food, but these mukbang videos are just binging heaps and heaps of food. it's more a spectacle than someone wanting to watch a meal being eaten.
Its really sad to see how happy and cute him and Orlen look in the beginning of their relationship. OrLen looks like he adores him and in their later videos they are basically abusing each other, and even though Nick slips back into his character pretty quickly, you can tell in some clips Orlen actually hurt and caught him off guard. Yikes
The clips of Orlen slapping the shit out of Nik and smearing food all over him always sneak up on me and I end up having a PTSD meltdown. As much as I dislike Nik, it breaks my heart when you can almost FEEL each hit.
I started watching Mukbangs in 2016-17 when I was pregnant with my son. I had Hyperemesis Gravidarum which is severe nausea and vomiting that can last throughout the entire pregnancy (as it did for me). It’s a condition where many cannot eat or drink anything without vomiting and many need to be hospitalized for dehydration, nutrition supplements, some need to have picc lines placed for medication/fluids among many other medical treatments. I remember my longest hospital stay (3weeks) where I was so hungry but couldn’t eat so I went to TH-cam to watch other people eat. It was dreadful but those channels really helped me through a dark time. Seeing what Nick has done to himself is heartbreaking. I can’t watch his recent videos (within the last 2-3yrs) cause they really break my heart. I wish nothing but the best for him
The thing is, when he’s not playing his character he actually seems pretty likable and nice. But it’s hard to say where the line between his character stops and where his real life starts because he’s blended the two together so much that I don’t even think he is entirely sure where the line is exactly. That makes me even sadder about it. If he really was just this awful cruel lunatic it’s easy not to feel bad for the situation he’s in. But if he’s a genuinely nice dude who was just goofing off and took it too far and got in too deep… it feels like another level of tragic
Your idea about Muckbangs being popular because of loneliness is correct in Korea it's seen as kinda sad to eat out by yourself so people would watch Muckbangs to not feel lonely
I work in eating disorder mental health and I see so much ED in his behavior, whether it's an act or not. And if it's all an act, he's certainly instigating others in their EDs. EDs are known for being very competitive and I feel like he's very aware of this. It's incredibly disturbing.
Oh my gosh.. no joke- I just found you and am burning through these as I clean on Saturdays .. I CANNOT get enough of them! I just adore you and your video style! Thank you!! 🙏🤗
i wish you spoke about his repeated hatred towards women; Veronica Wang, Stephanie Soo (who had to file for a restraining order against him), Trisha Paytas, Amberlynn Reid, the list goes on! Even Zach Choi had to file for a cease and desist against him!!
I think that is far more a telling pattern of behavior to discuss than speculations about his health or watching clips of a bunch of other TH-camrs who all happen to be thin and also, oddly enough don’t know him personally beyond mocking him for other things, speculate on his health in relation to his body size. Nick is deeply problematic and is worthy of discussion but seeing people here in the comments and those other TH-camrs (not CWHM) speculate and feign concern for him simply because he’s fat is highly disappointing. CWHM isn’t being shaming or fatphobic but all these people who have zero access to his medical records expressing “concern” simply because he is in a body that unsettled them personally is not the vibe for me.
@@Sarajean913 discussing the health issues he has disclosed and spoken about being related to his weight isn't speculation. I know some people do indeed speculate outside of that, though. It is ok to be concerned for someone who is choosing to gain weight when they have stated they have already caused health issues by doing so. The internet is going to discuss the most sensational parts of the story and of course the outrageous behaviour of a man who is choosing to make poor health choices takes precident over his abusive actions, sadly. He plays into and profits off a lot of negative and cruel stereotypes about fat people - the trope of a fat person bingeing a lot and claiming to not understand their weight gain, the "it's just water weight" denial. Yes, fat people are often treated poorly and it shouldn't be that way, but NA is complicit in upholding that very standard himself.
@@Natalie-wr3iz I am aware of that being how the internet is - I’m pointing out that isn’t how it has to be. Someone with a platform could actually do a lot of good dismantling the harmful fatphobic stereotypes about large bodies and myth that fatness equals unhealthy. People could be more responsible and simply not talk about his weight gain, because as you mentioned he is weaponizing his fatness. It is telling that after everything he has done, such as promoting abuse with his partner on screen or stalking someone, THIS is why people are suddenly super concerned. With the Stephanie Soo thing, some of these same people in the clips were like “I dunno, both sides blagh blagh, we can’t speculate, it’s not our place, he’s an actor so who knows what’s true”. But now that he’s fat and saying he has health issues, with a known history of constantly using toxic bullshit to get clicks, NOW it’s okay to take the situation at hand as true? Now it’s okay because they can pull the “I’m just concerned because of his health” even though they aren’t doctors, they aren’t weight specialists, and have no basis to medically diagnose him? (Again, want to reiterate that I don’t blame Cruel World Happy Mind, and I don’t think she is part of the problem. It’s the TH-camrs in the clips she showed.) I’m aware that most people think fat = unhealthy, no matter how many studies come out that prove otherwise. I’m aware that saying you are concerned about someone’s health is generally seen as free pass to talk about someone’s body size. I know the internet is a toxic place and thanks to a billion dollar diet industry & for-profit healthcare system, fatphobia is so deeply ingrained in us. I know it runs deep and most people don’t even realize it. I know all this, that’s why I’m taking time to point out that maybe people can pause and ask themselves WHY all of a sudden they are concerned about a extremely problematic person who has a history of fabricating things in a dramatic manner. Why is it now, after every other thing he’s done was dismissed as drama, that there is concern? Especially when the drama is about his weight when like you mentioned, he is openly and purposefully playing into fatphobic stereotypes. That’s all, just wishing some people will have some self awareness of why now are we all concerned and what that means about our own internal assumptions about fatness and health.
There has to be an element of self-loathing in why he keeps doing it. He must recognize the absurdity of eating like a maniac getting him more notoriety than his musical talent and that fuels his frenzied behavior on camera. It's like Maximus yelling at the crowd "Are you not entertained?" only it's not gladiator games but mukbangs.
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omg i did too! I remember reading the comments at the time on her videos and apparently a lot of people did that while dieting or if they had an ED. It definitely made it a lot easier for me to not "give in" to eating which wasn't good.
I did but because i was always by myself so it was like someone was talking to me in a way. This was years ago. Now I’m engaged with a 5 month old baby boy.
I know he does a lot of what he does because it brings him attention (thus, money) but tbh he would've still had a lot of attention if he began a weightloss journey. Yes, there would be a lot of pressure BUT people would watch it. However, he needs an actual therapy and not the kind you can film and put on youtube...
he needs to take a sabbatical and on that sabbatical...do some DEEP therapy... like you can tell that he's never had a good relationship with food whether he was vegan or not...
I don't think a publicised weight journey on TH-cam would even be helpful as it would be exacerbate the issue given there would be pressure to lose weight. In as much there are some people that would give him support there are plenty of trolls eager to see him fail. Just look at Jaclyn Hill's documented journey as an example.
I don't think it's a fat shaming to tell people the truth. My mom is and always has been morbidly obese and every single health issue she has is due to her weight. Being fat is not healthy. It's not good for our bodies and especially Not good for our heart to have to work so hard because it is a muscle and it's trying to keep us alive and when it's surrounded by fat it just has to work that much harder. There's a reason we don't see really fat old people. I don't think there's anything wrong with promoting healthy eating and healthy lifestyles such as working out a few days a week. I don't think it needs to be anything extreme but we are the fattest country in the world and that includes childhood obesity as well and that definitely isn't OK.
Telling someone their destroying themselves by binge eating isn't fat shaming. I say this as a big girl. What he's doing is severe self harm and he needs the brutal truth and some serious help.
@@CrustyUgg You think fat people don't know this? It's one thing to talk to your mom about her weight, but telling others "the truth" is unnecessary and yes, fatshaming.
So sad to see someone living like this. I truly hope he gets the help he needs. And I wish people would avoid giving those who put their health and lives at risk for views attention/an audience.
This is probably come off callus and/or horrible but, people cannot help but spectate a tragedy waiting to happen. Whether for their own satisfaction or just morbid curiosity.
What’s sad is while some people do eventually find a breaking point and stop watching there really are sick people out there who want to see if he actually dies or see if they can push him to die and it’s sick
This is really the exact problem we have on this platform with Eugenia Cooney. I really think we just need to fully and completely ignore both of them.
I'm having to skip all the clips from his videos, because as someone who has had binge eating disorder, it just triggers me so much seeing that. I never understood this guy, he was such a talented violinist (dean's honor roll? that's impressive). Sometimes I wonder if it's really all an act or if he is really spiraling downwards while the world just sits back and laugh.
how did you stop??? i’m still really struggling with it at times…i’ve gotten much better and lost 65lbs but i do still have times of binge eating and i can’t quite get to the bottoms of it and stop completely 😩. I
@@jaelyn1630 Therapy. 5 years and still counting. I was using food as a comfort instead of searching for the root of the problem. Sure, a nutritionist and keeping a healthy diet help, but it wasn't until I started seeing a psychiatrist that I got better.
I get what he was saying about it being hard to get into the business if you don't know someone, but he IS a talented violinist. I don't know why he couldn't just do something else with that. I mean TH-cam is full of different string quartets and stuff. Also I get that he wanted to be the pit orchestra for Broadway, but there are loads of community theaters that also use orchestras. Just seems stupid to go "well I can't be a Broadway musician because of nepotism, guess I'll make videos where I eat myself to death". I do think that despite what he says he's just spiraling downwards. He's pretending it's all an act so he can appear to be in control but he's just slowly losing it. Which is why it's nice that so many people seem genuinely concerned about him. But I'm not going to be surprised if/when we hear that he died of a heart attack at age 32 or something, unless someone slaps some sense into him soon.
you’re right, i’m in therapy, seeing a psychiatrist and doing group therapy i just have to be more patient with myself i still have a lot of trauma to work through and everything isn’t going to change perfectly overnight i’ve just been binging the last couple days in the middle of the night and feeling really gross. but you’re right just gotta keep doing what i’m doing. congrats to you for overcoming your pain though!!! and doing the work.
so happy you've really blown up these last couple months, your content Is really high quality and love the detail and personality you bring to your videos
Really praising your ability to maintain a non-biased opinion & get your information out while also still genuinely caring about what you’re putting out in a positive tone. ❤️
I'm in my 40's and battled with my weight all my life. The heaviest I have ever been was 295 pounds. During that time, I could out eat every one of these muckbangers in speed running record time. But with my battle with my weight came my battle with my mental health. I still battle my weight to this day. I lost 60 pounds before covid, then gainied 40 during covid, and currently working my way down, currently at 20 or so pounds lost. And still each day, I go to the gym or the pool to get my exercise and drink at least 2 of these 26 oz Yeti bottles of water, and still mentally fight the urge daily to chug a 2 Litre bottle pop and a full pack of double stuff Oreos. This damage doesn't go away, and I know I have done damage to my health that are for the rest of my life, but I still fight. And some days I'll win, and most days I lose, but it's a mental war I will continue to fight. So I know that even if Nick goes off TH-cam that struggle will continue until he gets real help, and I hope he finds it sooner rather than later. I hope that he will wake up and realize that all this is no longer worth it. I genuinely do. He needs to know that it's not too late. And the war will be ongoing for years, even decades, and I know this from personal experience, starting is the hardest part, harder than the relapses and bad food day judgments, and harder on those days where the finish line is nowhere to be found on Google maps. And I also know that people telling him the truth will put up that defense barrier and will remain in denial. It will sink in like a stone, I just hope that it's not too late.
I know this is an old comment, but I just want to let you know that I'm proud of and rooting for you. I hope that you are able to meet your weight loss goals and can work towards a healthier life.
I tend to get triggered by Nik, but hopefully I'll make it through this video lol. He looks so happy and full of life as a young man and to see his downfall is so sad
People need to be extremely careful with their words when speaking on this topic. He's been very vocal about NOT being healthy when he was vegan and skinny, so to possibly and accidentally reduce him to that can be trigger. He isn't healthy now, and he wasn't back then.
He definitely has never had a healthy relationship w food, but from a medical perspective a few vitamin deficiencies and hypoglycaemia are easily fixed w a diverse diet/supplements. He is currently farrrr more unhealthy than he was, needing a bipap machine to sleep and endangering several organ systems with his obesity, all of which will take extreme lifestyle changes and time to fix
I just found your channel! I will say, I LOVE the calming effect of your voice. Your well researched and articulated content as well as empathy in your tone. I appreciate this content, and I am learning a lot from it because I never kept up with any of these people, so it is truly fascinating
TH-cam is a cesspool of making no sense. One of the true crime channels is having issues with TH-cam taking their stuff down even though the videos don't show any footage of crimes (some videos have crime scene photos but so do TV SHOWS and I've seen worse real crime scene photos on tv), but then TH-cam is fine with domestic abuse (which is being played for laughs maybe??) or the channels like 5 Minute Crafts which are aimed at children despite encouraging some really dangerous things (like cooking something in a toaster that's sideways, or microwaving eggs). Fuckin TH-cam.
Yeah and they allow Eugenia Cooney videos to stay up where she looks like she's having seizures and about to pass out. Grotesque and shameful of TH-cam.
On top of everything you said in the video… it really makes me upset/sad to see that most of the food in a lot of mukbang videos (like Nikocado’s) simply go to waste. As someone who lives in a third world country, it’s really disgusting to me to see him just throw around food and putting it all over his face, the floor, and simply eating more even after he’s full, just to get views… I wish so bad that people who have big bank accounts like him, would spread awareness for hunger/give back to those who don’t have food on their tables. Or at least, not throw pounds of food on the floor for “fun”. Other than that, I do empathize with him and I hope he doesn’t ruin his life and finds a way out of this!
Food waste is a huge issue in the US. At home I make a strong effort to not waste food but then I go to work at a restaurant and we throw out probably ten pounds of food every day. It’s still edible, just not perfect enough for the $30 we charge for a meal. It’s terrible. Furthermore, in the US over one third of all produce is thrown away before it even goes to the store because it isn’t well-shaped or it’s the wrong color or too small or too big or whatever. Thank you for pointing this out because it’s easy to push it out of your mind when you have plenty of food to eat like I do. The food situation globally needs a lot of help.
Him throwing away food or eating "too much" (who are you to judge who should eat how much?) isn't the reason why people in third world countries are starving 🙄. He might be a reason why there would be a shortage of certain items in his area (even that is very unlikely) but that's it. Corporations are wasting food, governments are starving their own people, greed and capitalism are the root of the problem. You're demonizing someone who has 0 control over the problem whilst failing to mention the true culprits. No idea why you did that but okay.
@@Mia199603 Hi! I’m not saying whatsoever that he is the reason third world countries are starving. You missed the point of my comment. I’m saying how sad it is to watch people easily throw food around when there are people who don’t know when their next meal is going to be.
@@Mia199603 LOOOOOOL WHAT?! “who are you to judge who should eat too much” when discussing a blatant binge-eating disorder is ignorant and promotes a lack of awareness. there is such a thing as excessive eating we’re all aware of and to act like someone’s being judgmental for addressing that is foul. his mental instability and ED may keep him from controlling how much he eats, but a grown man can definitely control how much food he throws around and wastes. it goes without saying that he’s not the reason for world hunger, they’re simply pointing out that it’s sad to them, being from a third world country as they stated, to know people can waste so much while others don’t know if/when they’ll eat again. how is that demonizing a person who has enough control to turn the camera on to film and upload himself throwing noodles around for views? get real fam… you’re demonizing valid points.
@@MissCarlyJoy The company Imperfect Foods is trying to change that! If you haven't heard of them, they take the imperfect produce that stores don't want, and deliver it right to your door. I get a box every week. It's a good start!
I really feel for him! I understand the pains of being a prodigy and the pressure that comes along with it all too well. I truly think he’d benefit greatly from finding a good therapist to help him heal from some obviously deep issues. I wish him well and hope he can someday find the inner peace he needs. ✌️❤️
The thing is he was never healthy. He always has an unhealthy relationship with food. When he was skinny, he had an eating disorder and how he was involved in extreme vegan practices had a bad effect on his health and what he’s doing now is just on the opposite end of the spectrum. It’s very sad to see and I hope he takes some time away from TH-cam to work on himself and his mental health because the TH-cam fame and being in the spotlight is not good for him.
It might surprise you to discover that 68% of all firefighters suffer some form of cancer in their lifetimes. Sumo wrestlers shave an average of 20 years off their lifespans. The average lifespan of an American mine worker is 64 years; in Hunan, it's 49 years. There are a lot of jobs in the world where years of life are traded for a paycheck. Internet mukbanger happens to be one of them, evidently. It's a choice some people make, just like running into burning buildings for a paycheck, or Sumo wrestling.
I wish people would realize that even hate watching Nick or leaving nasty comments is just encouraging his behavior to continue. It's really sad he's done this to himself. I hope he gets help with his issues.
He's openly said that he keeps doing this because he gets the attention. Went as far as BLAMING his audience for his declining health. His audience needs to stop and walk away.
I absolutely love that you used clips from SixteenLeo’s videos. He’s a really great youtuber and so are you. To see you use his work to help aid yours is amazing! I love your work!
I found the section about vicarious satiation really interesting. I used to be homeless and constantly hungry. During that period of time, all I did was look up recipes for food and watch videos of people eating and cooking food. I suppose it was a stand in for me actually eating food.
Honestly, I feel kinda bad for him. I never realized how talented he was and how different things could have been if he had been more successful in his music career. While I definitely feels some empathy for him he has chosen not only to be super harmful to himself but to also start fights with other youtubers to stay relevant which is unnecessary and childish. Also, am I the only person who finds mukbangs kinda gross? Like I hate hearing people masticate and slurp. I don't mind watching people eat per say but more-so the way mukbangs are done on youtube as a category.
"I'm scared, i'm confused and I don't want people to hate me because of the kind of food i'm eating". Them words really hurt. Poor guy. I hope he is doing ok now and if not, I'm hoping he gets better😢
this was honestly too hard to watch, i dont know what kind of relationship/ acting they do but nikocado and his husband just hitting each other and scream at each other was horrible to see
I think it started as a character, and now he doesn't know where the character stops and Nicholas begins. He just became a sad person, who has an unhealthy relationship with food and lost any understanding of what is too far to monetize(like the domestic abuse videos with Orlin or the Stephanie Soo situation, where she had a serious issue with his behavior and he just threatened her and then clickbaited a lot so he could monetize her trauma) he takes real, important topics that shouldn't be trivialized and mocks them.
There's been so much about Nick on TH-cam so I wondered whether you would have something to add that's not already been said, but your perspective on this as on so much else is really engaging. Really well done!
It’s not just a character. I remember watching him cry the same way 5 or 6 years ago when he was skinny and trying to be positive. He would cry and eat food just like he does now
I knew for years that he was a talented violinist but I had no idea he had full scholarships, music accolades, and a degree in his art. So much wasted potential. I really wish he would get better mentally and physically, and play for the world again.
I hope he becomes aware before it’s too late. I would say that having broken ribs, constantly pooping yourself (people die from stuff like that, people have even died from being constipated), and having to wear a CPAP at night should have been a wake up call. It’s much easier to lose weight and get healthy when you’re young than it it is when you’re older.
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Yeah, I guess I didn’t think about that aspect. For me, there’s just something about eating sounds on camera that get me like nails on a chalkboard. In person, it doesn’t bother me. So those videos are definitely not for me
I definitely think Nik's "crazy" side is just a character, but I also think he is genuinely going through some serious issues with food. Perhaps he felt deprived during his vegan journey and went the complete opposite route to overindulgence in order to satisfy previous cravings? I really hope he gets on track health-wise! It actually breaks my heart to see those videos of him playing the violin so beautifully, he's so talented and bright and now he just acts foolish... I can tell he's a really nice person when he isn't acting. If you watch his videos with Hungryfatchick, he is always so pleasant and is actually calm to listen to. I wish him the best!
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Great video! I agree with that point and that point, totally watched it and am not a minute into the video
i laughed at the title but it's true. his story is similar to mine, except i am not 300lb
@@crowbr33ze 😂😂 I first read this and was like how did u watch the video so fast
@@cruelworldhappymind this is a spicy topic thanks for doing the video also today is my birthday so its like a gift lolol 😅💓💓
@@cruelworldhappymind Damn, you making a mini-documentary on Nikocado Avocado is inevitable.
THANK YOU, Cruel World (your channel).
I'm honestly often astonished at how ppl can watch Nick's videos. They make me physically nauseated, like the sounds, all the screaming and drama, and the food. He needs some serious help and a long vacation from the platform. Thanks for making a comprehensive video on this whole thing without resorting to body shaming
Edit: omg mom I'm famous! I'm seeing a lot of ppl commenting how it's helped them with their own EDs, so I don't mean to offend anyone of y'all, if it's helped I'm glad and I hope you are all healthy and happy =)
I feel the same
Agreed. I struggled to even watch the short clips of him in this video, I can’t imagine how anyone could sit through an entire video of his
He's repulsive. Whether it's all an act or not, I don't understand why anyone would willingly choose to watch it.
@@kayk480 I had to skip through them, my CPTSD says absolutely not
I can totally relate... These videos are just too hard to watch. Also, I'm quite "shocked" by the wasting of the food... We are in a time in which ressources shouldn't be wasted like that
The thing that bothers me is when people mention him being a vegan they don't bring up the fact that he was a raw vegan. Which is an unstable and dangerous form of veganism.
Yes! Also the fact that people think he was one of the healthiest people alive because he was vegan. I think he has never had a healthy relationship with food
@@-Desire People conveniently like to forget that the whole reason why he left being a raw vegan in the first place was because he was deficient in a lot of essential nutrients that he needed. It's so much easier to use fatphobia to pretend he was ever healthy. He never was.
What he did wasn't healthy and wasn't any better than what he's doing now. Just because he looked better doesn't mean he was healthier.
Yes exactly. I know from experience with myself and with others who have done extreme vegan diets, that most people who do it already have an unhealthy relationship with food. I even dare to say that extreme veganism can cause some kinds of hallucinations or psychosis. I know all the vegans are going to come for me. This is just my personal experience and my experience with what I've seen from people I know personally
Yesssss scream it from the rooftops!!! Ex vegan here and there is so much raw vegan rhetoric out there that's so harmful. I almost started feeling bad for eating cooked vegan food bc it wasn't "healthy" enough.
I mention in this video how he had health problems during his time as a vegan.
as someone how fucking HATES hearing people eat this was a hard one lmao still love your vids
SAME i had to pause for a while because i was so disgusted by the noises lolol
I had to skip some scenes, mouth noises are gross to me.
I didn't watch. Why can't people blank out eating noises like they do for swear words? Unlike people who choose to be offended by swear words, people with misophonia and other auditory processing disorders don't have a choice.
yeah as someone with misophonia, i had to be on alert with the skip button. it took less than a millisecond of mouth noises for me to want to curb stomp my own laptop and chuck it out of the window. i wish there was consideration for people with auditory disorders when editing this video
I had the same problem! When it was showing them idk eating noodles and you could hear them chewing I had to move past that, lol.
The saddest thing is that even when he was skinny he had an eating disorder where he would starve himself, now he has the exact opposite of that disorder.
No he wasn't he was a Vegan and you don't put on much fat with a Vegan diet. At least if you are a raw vegan who doesn't eat things like corn syrup.
@@snapchatsnacks3154 he literally spoke about his eating disorder in his older videos.
@@snapchatsnacks3154 Being a raw vegan is still not good or healthy in anyway. He also mentioned having an ED during his time of being vegan as well
@@snapchatsnacks3154 most 'raw vegans' have eating disorders and don't even know it. Besides, he opened up himself about having an ed
That’s very common unfortunately. I’m sure he never got help for this restrictive Ed, resulting in his disordered eating to continue differently. Binge eating AND anorexia are BOTH disorders. Important to remember that
You can actually see how well spoken he is and how smart he seems when he drops his persona, which I find really sad.
I LOVED how you said he is deserving of empathy and genuinely wished him the best. Idk but I really felt that. I don't even watch his videos. Spread your light, girl.
absolutely. he is not well. he is caught up in it
I will never understand why people want to watch others eat or freak out on camera. Its so deeply disturbing/gross and over-stimulating to me. My heart breaks for him.
Same I hope he gets the help he needs.
Agreed
People like myself enjoy seeing train wrecks. It’s normal to look at others in a fucked up situation and think “glad that’s not me and I better learn not to end up like that”
@@Sarah-qx4vz 100% valid
Some of them are reasonable who just talk and says whats going on and are calm and composed. Although some are not, like Nikocado's. I too choose not to watch his videos.
I can't believe I watched him when he was a raw vegan in the vegan community. He clearly knows what he's doing, and I hope he's not too wrapped up in this character/in it for life.
He does definitely know. But yeah, I think he's also too far gone. It's so hard to pull back after something becomes a habit, even if it was just for attention.
whats a raw vegan
@@lillysparrow A vegan who doesn't eat processed foods, like fries and stuff like that
He wasn't really healthier back then either though, and he said that himself
I get paid to smoke weed on my TH-cam channel lmao😅 i got ads on my videos .. The pandemicc showed alot of people you can’t rely on a 9-5 solely on its own💯🙏
"in a capitalist society, money and life are one in the same"
nick really embodies this. he's *literally* given his life to money and fame.
it seems like he is and was on both ends of the ED spectrum, being a raw vegan and becoming malnourished from it, and now becoming obese and over eating, both were and are unhealthy eating habits
I agree, as always, body weight doesn’t always indicate health. Obviously with Nick it’s definitely not healthy
Seems we have a know it all ^
@@haizee2330 Seems like we found the vegan.
@@WobblesandBean seems like we found the single spinster
@@haizee2330 I hate that y'all are roasting each other because I just want everyone to get along but I gotta say, "single spinster" is one of the funniest insults I have ever heard
I honestly believe Nik could lose weight on camera and people would support him and still watch him. I genuinely do.
I believe, after watching TRO's video on him, NIck has indicated that he may take his channel into a weight loss channel at some point.
i beilieve he could. he's very entertaining. very dramatic. and back in his vegan days he was also very authentic and vulnerable at times. he's really got a lot going for him.
Hes not scared of losing weight nor is it an issue. He even said once he gained his goal amount , he's going to do a weight loss journey
honestly to the point he's gotten to now i believe that's something the masses would flock to see. it's essentially the same thing he did but backwards. i'm sure it'll attract just as big of a crowd.
I disagree look how much hate Adel got for losing weight. It would be worst for Nick because his weight is a big part of his fame.
Nikacado has this uncanny ability to make the tastiest food look outright disgusting just by being in front of him.
Anything in those quantities is disgusting.
Chickencurry , that's because he is repulsive
Simplest solution: leave him alone, literally. He obvious thrives on the attention his drama elicits therefore remove that from his existence and he'll probably be forced to seek some other (more valid and rational) reason for living
I mean, it was an act.
@@nisarojas2869 ...of God?
@@homeric29 no. I just learned him throwing fits was a character
@@nisarojas2869 yes, an act for views and attention. By leaving him alone/not giving him views and attention, he will probably stop. That's the whole point of the comment lmao
Sure it may be the simplest solution but an unrelastic one because you forgot to mention that he has a BIG (No pun intended) following. You can't just simply tell his audience to stop watching him.
That's like saying, stop following the Kardashians in order for them to stop apprearing in mainstream media but with their amount of followers. That is next to impossible.
It takes someone as talented as you to make me feel sorry for a person like Nik in less than 30 seconds.
Empathy is the strongest and most powerful human emotion imo, I try to add that element into the video when I can ❤️
@@cruelworldhappymind Very true! Seriously though, your editing is
Yeah, that intro made me tear up. I do feel for this guy, junk food is designed to be addictive, without even nourishing your body. In a way, he's starving, even as he gains more weight.
I'm wondering why anyone wouldn't feel sorry for someone in such obvious pain.
@@cruelworldhappymind right on!!
I think this guy is writing the world’s longest suicide note, making a statement of how harmful the online fame is.
I'm a fat guy. I mention this as I don't want what I'm about to say to be taken the wrong way and I've no desire to shame anyone.
I love food, I love cooking and I've worked in hospitality, bars and kitchens my whole life, with a huge passion for ingredients flavours and food.
I find mukbangs absolutely sickening. Like foul beyond belief. I can't see any love of food in them, they scream sadness and sickness.
There's no passion, no care and no love in any of them. I find it difficult to understand what the appeal is in anyway.
If you love food, you have to respect it. That requires you value yourself. You can love food and even be overweight, but force-feeding yourself to death is actively disturbing and should not be profitable or celebrated in any way.
it's definitely the way dramatic mukbangs the west have created. mukbangs have existed long before this drama of shock value in other countries where it was just talking and enjoying food with your viewers
@@obesecatexpert I haven't ever seen anything like that, it might be nice to see one that isn't western
Watch Mukbangs in their original form. Westerners like Nick bastardized it to the point of making disgusting ASMR videos and not bringing any cultural value.
@@lkundercover I just might do that, thanks!
Yeah, real Mukbangs are nothing like what he does.
The best thing people can do for him is to stop watching and interacting with him. He’s doing it for fame and fortune, and he won’t stop till he thinks he wants to, but I feel as if his greed would put a halt to that. His health is rapidly declining, and if we stop watching videos that encourage his lifestyle, he might stop and work on himself.
To me you bring up the most frustrating point. People won’t stop watching. The internet has let us arrive to the circus and stay anonymous. No one even has to know we attended the “freak show”
I totally agree with you. I can't understand why anyone would go to that extreme to get some fame and fortune. I could never jeopardise my health just to make money
That's gonna be a problem for sure tho. A lot of people watch him because he's unhinged, ordinary and entertaining. Craziest part about all of this is that, even if "regular" people stop watching him, he'll still probably get views from fetishers/feeders. They LOVE those types of video. The bigger someone gets, the more it pleases them. Just sick.
as a ex nikocado fan i agree
agreed this is why i dont watch him also anytime i hear about this guy it reminds me of the south park episode were everyone was glorifying obese people the episode was called raising the bar i think cant remember the title
Seeing Nickado smash and throw around food feels like a punch to the face to anyone who struggles to finance their grocery shopping. Imagine having to get meals out of food banks and puzzling with coupons, and then you come by this type of content.
I refuse to watch his channel but I'll happily watch your take on things!
This. I can't contribute views to self harm of any kind.
I also have never and will never look at his channel. Just the clips of him make me nauseated.
Period!! I cannot support him. But i can support the facts in her videos 💯
Man, it really makes me sad seeing how downhill Nick's health has gone, I hope he can somehow get his act together and eventually become a healthier and happy person. The fact that moving is painful for him is a massive red flag
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Especially after seeing how talented he is with violin playing. So sad.
According to him, his health has always been a concern, even when he was skinny and vegan. He literally used to eat nothing but avocados everyday for months straight, which is extremely unhealthy and dangerous. He's clearly not healthy now, but he also wasn't back then either.
@@toomessy yup, he said himself that he wasnt healthy back then aswell
“massive“ indeed !
I don’t think he was healthy before either. He has an eating disorder. Both sides were too extreme.
I have never seen him without the extreme persona he puts on so hearing him talk to Trisha was shocking. Like he can actually form sentences? and he’s well spoken? Man, that makes this even more depressing.
I personally believe that Nick is a very intelligent and talented person with a very self-conscious sense of humour. What led to what we see now is his mental health issues that resulted in an addiction to YT “fame” and ED. He was being malnourished due to a very specific strict raw vegan diet first, and then proceed to be extremely overweight. I am living with ED myself for more than a decade and I may be wrong, but I think that even on his “better” pictures where he is thin and look happy he is deeply sad most of the time.
I am afraid that it’s minutes from a point of no return now for him, sadly.
I was trying to figure out what Erectile Disfunction had to do with all this for a good 5 minutes before I figured out what you meant by ED
@@esco4L that'd make the situation even more complictaed.)
Thank you! I feel like A LOT of people forget that he wasn't healthy physically and mentally when he was vegan at all. That man was eating nothing but avocados for MONTHS straight, how is that healthy? He isn't healthy now, but he sure wasn't back then either. Unfortunately for Nick, he was truly never given the chance to "step out" of his unhealthy eating habits. He got rid of a horrible one, just to enter...ANOTHER horrible one. He needs therapy and rehabilitation quick, especially before It's too late.
And how sadly he became a meme from crying on camera all the time
100% this - NEITHER lifestyle is at all healthy. I'll admit to having done this exact same cycle in university (very different circumstances, but unfortunately similar outcome). The malnourishment seriously screws up your metabolism - your body learns to conserve energy because it's used to not getting enough, so when you suddenly start eating all kinds of food that you haven't been eating before, you gain & retain weight much more easily. That's why crash/starvation diets don't work - your body learns to retain calories in the lean period, so when you start eating normally again, you just gain all that weight right back. It's not an easy cycle to break - and honestly, he's so far down the hole at this point, I don't know if it's even breakable.
The moment she said he had full scholarships and went to all these schools, and was even on the Dean's list, I immediately thought it could be gifted kid burnout. Like, as someone that has suffered it and has seen people tear themselves apart because of it, I feel like he was so caught up being a prodigy and being the perfect vegan and pleasing all these people that it just...broke him down. This is NOT an official diagnosis, but part of me strongly suspects it could be the case in my own opinion. The fact that he has depression and OCD and even ADD (like I do), it just...fuckin makes sense to me, just because I was also a "gifted kid" with ADHD (although undiagnosed till very recently) for the longest time. And man...it makes me so sad
Yes!!! I relate so much. Though I wasn’t gifted or anything like a prodigy I was considered very advanced for my age group. Dr K from healthy gamer has some great videos on ADHD and on gifted kid burnout.
If he has ADD emotional regulation is such a challenge. It is also very difficult to regulate eating. Sometimes that can get overlooked especially if he's not being treated for it.
Picking a musical career is such a disciplined career so it could be a way to gain control
Classic people pleaser syndrome
Hmmmmm….me too! Just got on ADHD meds and am so fucking boring now. Normal is so boring but it’s nice to be calm and in control of my emotions and actions.
This makes a lot of sense. Also us adults with ADHD have a higher incidence of binge eating disorder
3 million is not worth all his health problems... My heart honestly breaks for that man... Him and those around him deserve better
I wish people would stop giving him attention at all because at this point, I'm seriously wondering if his online personal hasn't taken over, and taking down his husband with him.
People love to see a trainwreck when it's about to derail and Nik is self-aware of that. He says he'll stop when he's 35 but as long as he gets attention and get that YT money, he won't stop.
Especially since this doesn't seem to gel with her type of content literally at all.
I wish TH-cam would just take down his channel
@@Hollyy_0 Sad to say this but i don't think so. He isn't really violating anything except for his health. YT doesn't take down ppl based on controversy. If anything, YT loves it. Brings in more traffic
Perfect timing - just lamenting over there being nothing to watch and your video pops up 👌 perfection!
Hope you enjoy the video love!! ❤️
I was in the exact same boat! Finally caught up on the most recent Boglim Chronicles videos and was worried I’d have nothing to watch today @ lunch
@@cruelworldhappymind I am indeed 😊 thank you!
Literally same! ☺
Same here!!! Nightmare day at work and suddenly everything is better! Not for the subject of the video but for Madison that always does a PHENOMENAL job at her videos and has a soothing voice and beautiful face. 🖤
I'm recovering from my ED and his videos make me so uncomfortable.
He's the physical embodiment of what binge eating disorder felt like to me.
Every video of his always leaves me feeling uneasy yet so motivated to keep up the good work and fully recover, it's weird.
His content, to me, screams pandering to feeder and humiliation fetishists… on top of the whole “slowly watching a car crash” aspect of it as well
Absolutely, it's true and you should say it.
100% on the pandering note. There are tons of people who like seeing stuff like this
Bingo!!
THANK YOU! I’ve been saying this for years. Especially that clip of him, Trisha and that other man, where they are looking at the camera making what they have been trained to believe are attractive faces while making as much noise while eating as possible and Orlan throwing food on him and shaming him and the creepy videos where he’s eating massive amounts of like cheesies or summat, all wet, while Orlan screams at him to eat more while shaming him and humiliating him?!
theres also a third group of fetishists he panders to but idk if i should explain that on here
I'm at the beginning of the video, but I just wanted to mention that he was already dealing with an eating disorder (orthorexia) when he was seemingly "healthy". He was never truly healthy. He's been battling for a long time, and I only wish him all the best. I don't watch his videos, but I hope he gets the help he needs.
Raw veganism requires orthorexia. When I was vegan and whole food plant based I was obsessed with food. You’re so right.
Your mentioning of orthorexia makes me think of another TH-camr that I'm very worried is going down that path. He's not vegan at this point, but he has a tendency to completely give things up for a year to see if the habit sticks. I'm really concerned that this year's task is going to start him down the path of an ED.
This is the first video on the subject where I feel like, though objective and critical, was the first that I could say “if Nicocado saw this whole video I bet he would feel respected and even inspired.” this video was so fair and compassionate and respectful. So many people use the diet “concern” issues and problematic drama as an excuse to make fun of him.
I read an interview with a girl who was suffering from anorexia and bulimia when she was a teenager, so around 2010, and she would basically spend all of her pocket money to buy candy for her siblings and watch them eat it, every single bite. She was feeding on the satisfaction that she's not the one who ate all of this and it propelled her to not eat at all. Imo mukbangs operate on similar mechanizm nowadays.
Absolutely, in the heights of my Ed I would watch an unhealthy amount of mukbangs, just to get satisfaction through witnessing other people eat monstrous amounts of trash food that I was restricting myself from.
I stopped watching around the time I decided to get better, but I've met a lot of people with Ed's who watch this kind of content for the exact same reason.
Nowadays I only click on mukbangs where the person is eating healthy amounts of food, and shows an appreciation for it. But I will be the first to say, that definitely, at least a small chunk of the audience who keep watching these are people who struggle with their relationship with food.
Interesting
@@fersaid1582 TW: ED
I never rly watched mukbangs but amberlynn Reid who is a very overweight individual, I did watch her kinda for shock value? To see what I could turn into yk, to scare u off. I think that’s also why so many ppl with an ed watch supersize vs superskinny- also for the feeling of superiority.
I can also imagine some people watching it as it’s something they can’t have yk with all the food
I would ask a guy I was dating to eat the food I wanted and it was so cathartic but yeah luckily I'm in recovery
Interesting insight..thanks for sharing it because it genuinely had never crossed my mind but it makes sense. Thanks, Cherry.
Every single person on TH-cam I've seen that stopped being vegan had an eating disorder that their veganism was masking. The issue is not the vegan diet. It's the eating disorder causing severe restriction.
I have friend who died from malnutrition from a vegan diet and he wasn’t restrictive except that he was vegan, (I would argue that veganism is an ED, although I respect your different view point on that.) His name was Marlo Ousterhouse (which is Dutch for Easter bunny❣️✨🙃) He got a type of scitzophrenia that is caused by a vegan diet that doctors don’t often mention anymore because vegans don’t want to hear it 9 times out of 10 (or more.) I had to watch a beautiful soul starve to death after having already watched his life fall apart: all from veganism. 🥺🤭😭 He went from a happily married father of 3, to a malnourished man in alone in a trailer, despite all his best efforts (he just couldn’t bring himself to believe the doctors that his diet was what was causing the issues, & blamed himself & just isolated more and more,😖😣😭) and then finally starved to death completely. It is because he is not here to speak for himself that I speak for him now. I apologize if this seems an unfair burden to share with you, but I assure you I only share this with you because I feel it is important wisdom that needs to be shared, especially in this context. What you are implying isn’t accurate, though I believe you about your personal experience; that is accurate, you are the only authority on your own life and I respect that and you. I truly wish you well in all your endeavours, you seem a wonderful person from what I’ve seen of your comments. 💖✨
Thanks for listening (if you chose to read this.) Many blessings and I hope you have a wonderful day.
💖✨🙏🏻🥺✌🏻
@@aradialefae4777 I am truly sorry for your loss. But veganism doesn't cause schizophrenia nor does a balanced vegan diet cause a person to starve if their body is compatible with veganism, and most bodies are. You should maybe deal with your grief in some other way rather than spreading misinformation of a lifestyle that has been around since humans have been around.
@@aradialefae4777 Sorry for your loss but I'd like to remind you that correlation does not mean causation.
Agree, my fibromyalgia is so much less restrictive from eating vegan. I do not do smoothies and salads, but a well balanced diet with fake meat and beans. My vitamine levels and energy improved so much. I never ever watch vegan youtubers, because they always go all in to an extreme. It is really disturbing
Your comment really connected with me, as there are three vegan members in my family ALL of whom had previously been diagnosed with eating disorders.
Nick is disturbing to watch because I know he’s putting on an act for a camera but you got to know that there’s real pain behind those eyes and it’s probably an outlet to let out all of his emotions. He can’t have happpiness like this, tons of money, sure, but I’m sure he hates what he has become and wishes he could earn the same amount of money on TH-cam with a different lifestyle and he probably doesn’t believe he can do it that’s why he’s stuck to this character for so long.
I was adopted and my parents told me I was adopted very early (I was 4 when I first remember being told) my parents stressed to me and my twin that it didn’t mean our birth mother didn’t love us, quite the opposite. And my adoptive parents also made sure to say that being adopted didn’t make us diffrent. We celebrated our Adoption Day every year. It’s sad that he views his adoption negatively.
i always felt that approach was a much healthier way to raise adopted children, tbh, the open transparency seems so important.
😭 I’m glad you have such loving parents. They really make a world of difference, don’t they? I’m sorry your birth mom felt the need to let you go because if she has a conscious, I’m sure it kills her, but she put you in a better situation ❤️
not everyone has as good of an experience with adoption, i for one.
My high school bestie was adopted too and with her papers is a note from her bio mom about how much she loves her but is too poor and unstable to raise a baby alone. Your mom loved you a lot
This comment gave me warm fuzzies. Good on your parents
It is important to remember, when he was younger and vegan, he wasn’t happy and healthy. He was suffering from an ED (he has stated as much). He went from one extreme to another but both are EDs, and we shouldn’t glorify his extreme veganism either. Still horrible to see how much he is spiraling for the sake of internet fame, he needs real help.
exactly!! i find it disturbing that people like to compare photos of him during his raw vegan days where he was deeply unhealthy to now. he wasn't healthy then and isn't now, but people like to glorify him then bc of fatphobia.
Absolutely. As a vegan, it sickens me when ppl think of veganism as a "health diet", and take it to extremes, when in reality it's an ethical concept. It's for animals. It has nothing to do with health or losing weight. All the ppl who make videos "why I stopped being vegan" are generally the ones who thought that eating spinach goop with carrot juice is "veganism". When in reality it's just unhealthy diet.
Veganism is just another biologically normal way for humans to eat. It's also not healthy just cause it's vegan. There is vegan junk food after all, saying it as I'm eating large pizza.
There was a research that compared health markers of omnivores and vegans, and apart from vegans having lower bad cholesterol, there wasn't really any other differences.
There's nothing wrong with veganism.
@@rene9406 “and we shouldn’t glorify his *extreme* veganism”
@@iknowwhatyouare102 What is extreme veganism?
This is a disturbing psychology of unresolved trauma, depression, grief, and anxiety. I believe Nick is suffering psychology in one way or another.
two things:
1) i HATE how his “character” is playing on fatphobic stereotypes like not showering, only eating unhealthily, binging, etc.
2) he’s never been “healthy.” from extreme veganism to what looks like BED, his relationship with food has always been unhealthy. maybe more now than then, but people didn’t call him out for being unhealthy because being skinny=healthy in media, and being overweight=unhealthy. in his case, both are unhealthy due to his relationship with food. that’s rlly all it comes down to. (+if his doctors gave him any medical treatment/attention about his weight gain which they prob did considering his videos abt it). but honestly, his relationship with food is the root of the problem.
THANK YOU!!
Agree!!
Also, I feel people keep buying into the idea that he was a nice and emotionally adjusted person before all this when it seems he wasn't. I guess suggesting that people watch The Right Opinion's 4 hour video on him may be much, but even people who have watched that video miss the point. Nik's cycle is to get angry at something someone said and then either exaggerate or lie to tear that person down. He has always done strange things and he has admitted to being especially sensitive to rejection.
YESSSSSSS
Yes! Thank you.
Speaking from experience, creating a character for yourself often means you become the character. When it was because my old man called me crazy for some many years that I decided to lean into it, or as a young man, doing anything to prove I was the craziest guy on the street, to becoming the monster people accused me of being, on & on, slowly killing the child I had once been, to match what people told me I was, if you tell yourself a story long enough, it becomes your truth. I think he has some pretty serious mental health issues happening (I also do) & he really should address that. Surely he has enough money now that he can use it to stay afloat while he does the work he needs to do until he can choose a new, better path forward. I'm not sure that marriage is healthy or safe either.
This is a common defense mechanism. I hope you’re doing ok now.
I hope that you are doing well. No one deserves to go through something like that.
See Nikocado's musical talent he had back in the day actually makes me feel bad for him even more than I already did. Like, he could have made some serious money in musical professions without sacrificing his health for views and "fame".
This has probably been the hardest vid for me to get through. I just can't understand how people can watch mukbangs when they make me feel like I want to gouge out my ears! I'm not even wearing headphones and the eating noises are torture. That said, it's a great deep dive and interesting to see how talented he actually is! Even if it's a shame what's been going on.
Yeah I don't even like watching people eat in real life 🤢 Like you said, CWHM does great research though and I needed something to watch.
Same. I honestly can’t stand it. I also hate ASMR things, it makes my skin crawl 🤮
the noodle slurping for like a minute straight almost killed me eewww… how can anyone listen to that for 45 minutes to an hour!?
@@DDoubleEDouble Same it's like hearing it feels like bugs are crawling everywhere it's so uncomfortable.
@@laurenmarieroman I got about 10 seconds before I noped right over that. I couldn't do it. I was starting to gag and it's like okay no.
I am not even mad at him anymore, it is just really sad. We are watching someone eating away their sanity and life. It will not be long till we see a post by Orlin that Nick had a heart attack and passed...Would not be surprised...
How when orlin will be right beside him, they weighed themselves and orlin is only 10 pounds lighter than nick and lies about being a vegan....he is gross
I feel the same watching Eugenia Cooney (sic) videos. She's obviously suffering from anorexia, yet receiving no treatment. I check in just to see that she hasn't passed away. This saddened me.
Intro is a f'n masterpiece. I noticed you synced him singing the violin piece from an earlier video. Respect. Dedication.
This whole story makes me so sad. He's a genuinely talented human, he's smart, he's musically talented, he's actually really funny too. I really like nick. I hate to see him choose this self destruction continuously. It just makes me sad. You could call this the tragedy of Nick Perry, complete with the heroes fatal flaw. Tragic.
To the people who talk about how he used to be vegan:
He wasn't extremely healthy back then either, not only physically, but mentally too. The vegan community on youtube was super toxic back then and a source of major stress for him.
Additionally, raw veganism, although doable, can be very hard to pull off. (It is very possible to thrive on a healthy vegan diet! Cooked foods make it easier)
I hope he can get better both mentally and physically in the future, vegan or not.
Exactly! Skinny does not equal healthy. Nick said that his vegan diet was not good for him. I wish more people acknowledged this.
It isn’t necessarily easy to consume calcium, vitamin D, and K2M4 when you are vegan though. You are right that things were toxic back then too.
Yeah veganism I get, but I'm sorry, not cooking your food is just braindead asceticism.
@@kimberlyw2591 the chokehold freelee the banana girl had on the dietary/vegan community needs a deep dive investigation. convincing people that eating pounds of banana and dates was a normal standard diet with no cooked foods, fats/oils and discouraging people from taking supplements. really caused massive eating disorders and health issues amongst so many people. the vegan community on youtube was really cultish in the 2010's. I’m not surprised Nick went from one extreme to another without seeking and help
@@abbygibbs9735 nothing wrong with veganism done right. Basically anything meat or dairy based you can get plant based now. Everyone should take a B12 supplement. Only been doing it 33 years. Raw veganism is too hard and ridiculous to say the least. Hopefully his obesity/cholesterol levels doesn’t kill him before he can and will turn this around.
I'm a borderline personality, and I find this "crazy". I am prone to self-sabotage, but I would never make it a career.
I'm not going to judge their character, but he undermined his own talent. Very tragic.
Love yourselves everyone love yourselves. If you don't know how, please get therapy. Therapy is the bravest decision anyone can make.
The idea that mukbangs make others feel full is wild to me. Because they gross me out. I dont feel full, I just lose my appetite.
While your parts, which is more tame and calm and reminds me of a normal mealtime, make me hungry.
its the sound of his videos. the slurping and mashing of food like that drives me up the wall and makes me lose my appetite.
i can understand asmr of a nice, well-dressed, and balanced meal, because sometimes people are hungry or bored and want to gawk at food, but these mukbang videos are just binging heaps and heaps of food. it's more a spectacle than someone wanting to watch a meal being eaten.
Yeah I could barely watch this video tbh with the eating videos inserted in
Its really sad to see how happy and cute him and Orlen look in the beginning of their relationship. OrLen looks like he adores him and in their later videos they are basically abusing each other, and even though Nick slips back into his character pretty quickly, you can tell in some clips Orlen actually hurt and caught him off guard. Yikes
The clips of Orlen slapping the shit out of Nik and smearing food all over him always sneak up on me and I end up having a PTSD meltdown. As much as I dislike Nik, it breaks my heart when you can almost FEEL each hit.
I started watching Mukbangs in 2016-17 when I was pregnant with my son. I had Hyperemesis Gravidarum which is severe nausea and vomiting that can last throughout the entire pregnancy (as it did for me). It’s a condition where many cannot eat or drink anything without vomiting and many need to be hospitalized for dehydration, nutrition supplements, some need to have picc lines placed for medication/fluids among many other medical treatments. I remember my longest hospital stay (3weeks) where I was so hungry but couldn’t eat so I went to TH-cam to watch other people eat. It was dreadful but those channels really helped me through a dark time.
Seeing what Nick has done to himself is heartbreaking. I can’t watch his recent videos (within the last 2-3yrs) cause they really break my heart. I wish nothing but the best for him
I'm not Korean, but I did read from a Korean, that loneliness is what started mukbangs for exactly the reason you guessed.
The thing is, when he’s not playing his character he actually seems pretty likable and nice. But it’s hard to say where the line between his character stops and where his real life starts because he’s blended the two together so much that I don’t even think he is entirely sure where the line is exactly. That makes me even sadder about it. If he really was just this awful cruel lunatic it’s easy not to feel bad for the situation he’s in. But if he’s a genuinely nice dude who was just goofing off and took it too far and got in too deep… it feels like another level of tragic
Your idea about Muckbangs being popular because of loneliness is correct in Korea it's seen as kinda sad to eat out by yourself so people would watch Muckbangs to not feel lonely
I work in eating disorder mental health and I see so much ED in his behavior, whether it's an act or not. And if it's all an act, he's certainly instigating others in their EDs. EDs are known for being very competitive and I feel like he's very aware of this. It's incredibly disturbing.
what EDs?
@@pattypsi2 eating disorder
@@Reng7erychncr3 thanks!
Honestly, I think we can all look at him and come to the conclusion that this is not an act. Not the obsessive eating part at least.
I tend to think everyone on TH-cam has issues
This is how I choose to get my TH-camr news.
With respect, gently, well informed, very well researched & quietly.
Thanks doll....you're going places
Same. I’ve unsubbed from many commentary channels but CWHM is gold tier.
Oh my gosh..
no joke- I just found you and am burning through these as I clean on Saturdays ..
I CANNOT get enough of them! I just adore you and your video style! Thank you!! 🙏🤗
i wish you spoke about his repeated hatred towards women; Veronica Wang, Stephanie Soo (who had to file for a restraining order against him), Trisha Paytas, Amberlynn Reid, the list goes on! Even Zach Choi had to file for a cease and desist against him!!
I think that is far more a telling pattern of behavior to discuss than speculations about his health or watching clips of a bunch of other TH-camrs who all happen to be thin and also, oddly enough don’t know him personally beyond mocking him for other things, speculate on his health in relation to his body size. Nick is deeply problematic and is worthy of discussion but seeing people here in the comments and those other TH-camrs (not CWHM) speculate and feign concern for him simply because he’s fat is highly disappointing. CWHM isn’t being shaming or fatphobic but all these people who have zero access to his medical records expressing “concern” simply because he is in a body that unsettled them personally is not the vibe for me.
@@Sarajean913 discussing the health issues he has disclosed and spoken about being related to his weight isn't speculation. I know some people do indeed speculate outside of that, though. It is ok to be concerned for someone who is choosing to gain weight when they have stated they have already caused health issues by doing so. The internet is going to discuss the most sensational parts of the story and of course the outrageous behaviour of a man who is choosing to make poor health choices takes precident over his abusive actions, sadly.
He plays into and profits off a lot of negative and cruel stereotypes about fat people - the trope of a fat person bingeing a lot and claiming to not understand their weight gain, the "it's just water weight" denial.
Yes, fat people are often treated poorly and it shouldn't be that way, but NA is complicit in upholding that very standard himself.
Exactly. He's just a overall shitty person. It's sad, but he's doing it all himself knowing full well of the implications.
@@Natalie-wr3iz I am aware of that being how the internet is - I’m pointing out that isn’t how it has to be. Someone with a platform could actually do a lot of good dismantling the harmful fatphobic stereotypes about large bodies and myth that fatness equals unhealthy. People could be more responsible and simply not talk about his weight gain, because as you mentioned he is weaponizing his fatness. It is telling that after everything he has done, such as promoting abuse with his partner on screen or stalking someone, THIS is why people are suddenly super concerned.
With the Stephanie Soo thing, some of these same people in the clips were like “I dunno, both sides blagh blagh, we can’t speculate, it’s not our place, he’s an actor so who knows what’s true”.
But now that he’s fat and saying he has health issues, with a known history of constantly using toxic bullshit to get clicks, NOW it’s okay to take the situation at hand as true? Now it’s okay because they can pull the “I’m just concerned because of his health” even though they aren’t doctors, they aren’t weight specialists, and have no basis to medically diagnose him?
(Again, want to reiterate that I don’t blame Cruel World Happy Mind, and I don’t think she is part of the problem. It’s the TH-camrs in the clips she showed.)
I’m aware that most people think fat = unhealthy, no matter how many studies come out that prove otherwise. I’m aware that saying you are concerned about someone’s health is generally seen as free pass to talk about someone’s body size.
I know the internet is a toxic place and thanks to a billion dollar diet industry & for-profit healthcare system, fatphobia is so deeply ingrained in us. I know it runs deep and most people don’t even realize it.
I know all this, that’s why I’m taking time to point out that maybe people can pause and ask themselves WHY all of a sudden they are concerned about a extremely problematic person who has a history of fabricating things in a dramatic manner. Why is it now, after every other thing he’s done was dismissed as drama, that there is concern? Especially when the drama is about his weight when like you mentioned, he is openly and purposefully playing into fatphobic stereotypes.
That’s all, just wishing some people will have some self awareness of why now are we all concerned and what that means about our own internal assumptions about fatness and health.
It's the fact that he's bringing his husband down with him is really... Sad.
There has to be an element of self-loathing in why he keeps doing it. He must recognize the absurdity of eating like a maniac getting him more notoriety than his musical talent and that fuels his frenzied behavior on camera. It's like Maximus yelling at the crowd "Are you not entertained?" only it's not gladiator games but mukbangs.
Can confirm I used to obsessively watch Trisha’s mukbangs during the worst parts of my ed as fuel. They can be so toxic!
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omg i did too! I remember reading the comments at the time on her videos and apparently a lot of people did that while dieting or if they had an ED. It definitely made it a lot easier for me to not "give in" to eating which wasn't good.
Me too, omg. It should be talked about more
I did but because i was always by myself so it was like someone was talking to me in a way. This was years ago. Now I’m engaged with a 5 month old baby boy.
I know he does a lot of what he does because it brings him attention (thus, money) but tbh he would've still had a lot of attention if he began a weightloss journey. Yes, there would be a lot of pressure BUT people would watch it. However, he needs an actual therapy and not the kind you can film and put on youtube...
he needs to take a sabbatical and on that sabbatical...do some DEEP therapy...
like you can tell that he's never had a good relationship with food whether he was vegan or not...
Said the same and then saw your comment. I totally agree. If he wants to be greedy he can reform it into something healthy
I don't think a publicised weight journey on TH-cam would even be helpful as it would be exacerbate the issue given there would be pressure to lose weight. In as much there are some people that would give him support there are plenty of trolls eager to see him fail. Just look at Jaclyn Hill's documented journey as an example.
I genuinely hope nick found the help he needed. Mentally and physically. It was really sad to watch his videos
Really appreciate you avoiding fat shaming. The internet needs more of your kindness and compassion.
I don't think it's a fat shaming to tell people the truth. My mom is and always has been morbidly obese and every single health issue she has is due to her weight. Being fat is not healthy. It's not good for our bodies and especially Not good for our heart to have to work so hard because it is a muscle and it's trying to keep us alive and when it's surrounded by fat it just has to work that much harder. There's a reason we don't see really fat old people. I don't think there's anything wrong with promoting healthy eating and healthy lifestyles such as working out a few days a week. I don't think it needs to be anything extreme but we are the fattest country in the world and that includes childhood obesity as well and that definitely isn't OK.
Telling someone their destroying themselves by binge eating isn't fat shaming. I say this as a big girl. What he's doing is severe self harm and he needs the brutal truth and some serious help.
@@dethmetelchik this this this.
@@CrustyUgg You think fat people don't know this? It's one thing to talk to your mom about her weight, but telling others "the truth" is unnecessary and yes, fatshaming.
@@CrustyUgg How do you know there aren’t any really fat old people? That’s a silly generalization.
So sad to see someone living like this. I truly hope he gets the help he needs. And I wish people would avoid giving those who put their health and lives at risk for views attention/an audience.
This is probably come off callus and/or horrible but, people cannot help but spectate a tragedy waiting to happen. Whether for their own satisfaction or just morbid curiosity.
What’s sad is while some people do eventually find a breaking point and stop watching there really are sick people out there who want to see if he actually dies or see if they can push him to die and it’s sick
I mean, yeah.. that's why Eugenia Cooneys livestreams still get views. People wanna watch her killing herself. It's grotesque.
that interview with trisha is like a fever dream after seeing where they’re at now HOW WERE THEY SO CIVIL WITH EACH OTHER LMAO
This is really the exact problem we have on this platform with Eugenia Cooney. I really think we just need to fully and completely ignore both of them.
I'm having to skip all the clips from his videos, because as someone who has had binge eating disorder, it just triggers me so much seeing that. I never understood this guy, he was such a talented violinist (dean's honor roll? that's impressive). Sometimes I wonder if it's really all an act or if he is really spiraling downwards while the world just sits back and laugh.
how did you stop??? i’m still really struggling with it at times…i’ve gotten much better and lost 65lbs but i do still have times of binge eating and i can’t quite get to the bottoms of it and stop completely 😩. I
@@jaelyn1630 Therapy. 5 years and still counting. I was using food as a comfort instead of searching for the root of the problem. Sure, a nutritionist and keeping a healthy diet help, but it wasn't until I started seeing a psychiatrist that I got better.
I get what he was saying about it being hard to get into the business if you don't know someone, but he IS a talented violinist. I don't know why he couldn't just do something else with that. I mean TH-cam is full of different string quartets and stuff.
Also I get that he wanted to be the pit orchestra for Broadway, but there are loads of community theaters that also use orchestras. Just seems stupid to go "well I can't be a Broadway musician because of nepotism, guess I'll make videos where I eat myself to death".
I do think that despite what he says he's just spiraling downwards. He's pretending it's all an act so he can appear to be in control but he's just slowly losing it. Which is why it's nice that so many people seem genuinely concerned about him. But I'm not going to be surprised if/when we hear that he died of a heart attack at age 32 or something, unless someone slaps some sense into him soon.
you’re right, i’m in therapy, seeing a psychiatrist and doing group therapy i just have to be more patient with myself i still have a lot of trauma to work through and everything isn’t going to change perfectly overnight i’ve just been binging the last couple days in the middle of the night and feeling really gross. but you’re right just gotta keep doing what i’m doing. congrats to you for overcoming your pain though!!! and doing the work.
I have BED too and if you still have triggers then you haven't beaten the disorder yet.
I absolutely HATE hearing mouth noises in any ASMR video(or at all), so hearing people eat was definitely a tough one to “swallow” for me!🥴🤢
so happy you've really blown up these last couple months, your content Is really high quality and love the detail and personality you bring to your videos
It certainly was. I hope this video isn't an indicator of a new trend.
Really praising your ability to maintain a non-biased opinion & get your information out while also still genuinely caring about what you’re putting out in a positive tone. ❤️
Thank you that’s all I strive for 🥲
I'm in my 40's and battled with my weight all my life. The heaviest I have ever been was 295 pounds. During that time, I could out eat every one of these muckbangers in speed running record time. But with my battle with my weight came my battle with my mental health. I still battle my weight to this day. I lost 60 pounds before covid, then gainied 40 during covid, and currently working my way down, currently at 20 or so pounds lost. And still each day, I go to the gym or the pool to get my exercise and drink at least 2 of these 26 oz Yeti bottles of water, and still mentally fight the urge daily to chug a 2 Litre bottle pop and a full pack of double stuff Oreos. This damage doesn't go away, and I know I have done damage to my health that are for the rest of my life, but I still fight. And some days I'll win, and most days I lose, but it's a mental war I will continue to fight. So I know that even if Nick goes off TH-cam that struggle will continue until he gets real help, and I hope he finds it sooner rather than later. I hope that he will wake up and realize that all this is no longer worth it. I genuinely do. He needs to know that it's not too late. And the war will be ongoing for years, even decades, and I know this from personal experience, starting is the hardest part, harder than the relapses and bad food day judgments, and harder on those days where the finish line is nowhere to be found on Google maps. And I also know that people telling him the truth will put up that defense barrier and will remain in denial. It will sink in like a stone, I just hope that it's not too late.
I know this is an old comment, but I just want to let you know that I'm proud of and rooting for you. I hope that you are able to meet your weight loss goals and can work towards a healthier life.
I tend to get triggered by Nik, but hopefully I'll make it through this video lol. He looks so happy and full of life as a young man and to see his downfall is so sad
He is triggering af. So hard to watch.
People need to be extremely careful with their words when speaking on this topic. He's been very vocal about NOT being healthy when he was vegan and skinny, so to possibly and accidentally reduce him to that can be trigger. He isn't healthy now, and he wasn't back then.
He definitely has never had a healthy relationship w food, but from a medical perspective a few vitamin deficiencies and hypoglycaemia are easily fixed w a diverse diet/supplements. He is currently farrrr more unhealthy than he was, needing a bipap machine to sleep and endangering several organ systems with his obesity, all of which will take extreme lifestyle changes and time to fix
It has nothing to do with food. He is an attention whore who makes money off of his own drama. It's not complicated
I just found your channel! I will say, I LOVE the calming effect of your voice. Your well researched and articulated content as well as empathy in your tone. I appreciate this content, and I am learning a lot from it because I never kept up with any of these people, so it is truly fascinating
The fact TH-cam allows his videos with CLEAR domestic violence is DISGUSTING.
TH-cam enables family "prank" videos full of abuse disguised as "comedy" so it's not that surprising
And don't forget and binge eating is a form of self harm. But they allow eugina so I'm really not shocked
TH-cam is a cesspool of making no sense. One of the true crime channels is having issues with TH-cam taking their stuff down even though the videos don't show any footage of crimes (some videos have crime scene photos but so do TV SHOWS and I've seen worse real crime scene photos on tv), but then TH-cam is fine with domestic abuse (which is being played for laughs maybe??) or the channels like 5 Minute Crafts which are aimed at children despite encouraging some really dangerous things (like cooking something in a toaster that's sideways, or microwaving eggs).
Fuckin TH-cam.
@@FrenkTheJoy Which true crime channel is this, if you don't mind naming them?
Yeah and they allow Eugenia Cooney videos to stay up where she looks like she's having seizures and about to pass out. Grotesque and shameful of TH-cam.
On top of everything you said in the video… it really makes me upset/sad to see that most of the food in a lot of mukbang videos (like Nikocado’s) simply go to waste. As someone who lives in a third world country, it’s really disgusting to me to see him just throw around food and putting it all over his face, the floor, and simply eating more even after he’s full, just to get views… I wish so bad that people who have big bank accounts like him, would spread awareness for hunger/give back to those who don’t have food on their tables. Or at least, not throw pounds of food on the floor for “fun”.
Other than that, I do empathize with him and I hope he doesn’t ruin his life and finds a way out of this!
Food waste is a huge issue in the US. At home I make a strong effort to not waste food but then I go to work at a restaurant and we throw out probably ten pounds of food every day. It’s still edible, just not perfect enough for the $30 we charge for a meal. It’s terrible. Furthermore, in the US over one third of all produce is thrown away before it even goes to the store because it isn’t well-shaped or it’s the wrong color or too small or too big or whatever. Thank you for pointing this out because it’s easy to push it out of your mind when you have plenty of food to eat like I do. The food situation globally needs a lot of help.
Him throwing away food or eating "too much" (who are you to judge who should eat how much?) isn't the reason why people in third world countries are starving 🙄. He might be a reason why there would be a shortage of certain items in his area (even that is very unlikely) but that's it. Corporations are wasting food, governments are starving their own people, greed and capitalism are the root of the problem. You're demonizing someone who has 0 control over the problem whilst failing to mention the true culprits. No idea why you did that but okay.
@@Mia199603 Hi! I’m not saying whatsoever that he is the reason third world countries are starving. You missed the point of my comment. I’m saying how sad it is to watch people easily throw food around when there are people who don’t know when their next meal is going to be.
@@Mia199603 LOOOOOOL WHAT?! “who are you to judge who should eat too much” when discussing a blatant binge-eating disorder is ignorant and promotes a lack of awareness. there is such a thing as excessive eating we’re all aware of and to act like someone’s being judgmental for addressing that is foul. his mental instability and ED may keep him from controlling how much he eats, but a grown man can definitely control how much food he throws around and wastes. it goes without saying that he’s not the reason for world hunger, they’re simply pointing out that it’s sad to them, being from a third world country as they stated, to know people can waste so much while others don’t know if/when they’ll eat again. how is that demonizing a person who has enough control to turn the camera on to film and upload himself throwing noodles around for views? get real fam… you’re demonizing valid points.
@@MissCarlyJoy The company Imperfect Foods is trying to change that! If you haven't heard of them, they take the imperfect produce that stores don't want, and deliver it right to your door. I get a box every week. It's a good start!
I really feel for him! I understand the pains of being a prodigy and the pressure that comes along with it all too well. I truly think he’d benefit greatly from finding a good therapist to help him heal from some obviously deep issues. I wish him well and hope he can someday find the inner peace he needs. ✌️❤️
The thing is he was never healthy. He always has an unhealthy relationship with food. When he was skinny, he had an eating disorder and how he was involved in extreme vegan practices had a bad effect on his health and what he’s doing now is just on the opposite end of the spectrum. It’s very sad to see and I hope he takes some time away from TH-cam to work on himself and his mental health because the TH-cam fame and being in the spotlight is not good for him.
It’s not longer a character when it’s literally affecting his health, well being, and everyday life.
It might surprise you to discover that 68% of all firefighters suffer some form of cancer in their lifetimes. Sumo wrestlers shave an average of 20 years off their lifespans. The average lifespan of an American mine worker is 64 years; in Hunan, it's 49 years. There are a lot of jobs in the world where years of life are traded for a paycheck. Internet mukbanger happens to be one of them, evidently. It's a choice some people make, just like running into burning buildings for a paycheck, or Sumo wrestling.
I had to pause several times watching this. This entire mukbang thing is disgusting beyond description.
I'm really happy your channel is getting so much love Hun, you are truly amazing and your edits are pristine, you are my inspiration
Wow thank you so much 🥺😭💜
I wish people would realize that even hate watching Nick or leaving nasty comments is just encouraging his behavior to continue. It's really sad he's done this to himself. I hope he gets help with his issues.
He's openly said that he keeps doing this because he gets the attention. Went as far as BLAMING his audience for his declining health. His audience needs to stop and walk away.
That just makes me want to watch him more. I’ve never seen the guy but the idea of dragging him down with positivity seems fun
I absolutely love that you used clips from SixteenLeo’s videos. He’s a really great youtuber and so are you. To see you use his work to help aid yours is amazing! I love your work!
I found the section about vicarious satiation really interesting. I used to be homeless and constantly hungry. During that period of time, all I did was look up recipes for food and watch videos of people eating and cooking food. I suppose it was a stand in for me actually eating food.
Honestly, I feel kinda bad for him. I never realized how talented he was and how different things could have been if he had been more successful in his music career. While I definitely feels some empathy for him he has chosen not only to be super harmful to himself but to also start fights with other youtubers to stay relevant which is unnecessary and childish. Also, am I the only person who finds mukbangs kinda gross? Like I hate hearing people masticate and slurp. I don't mind watching people eat per say but more-so the way mukbangs are done on youtube as a category.
"I'm scared, i'm confused and I don't want people to hate me because of the kind of food i'm eating". Them words really hurt. Poor guy. I hope he is doing ok now and if not, I'm hoping he gets better😢
this was honestly too hard to watch, i dont know what kind of relationship/ acting they do but nikocado and his husband just hitting each other and scream at each other was horrible to see
I think it started as a character, and now he doesn't know where the character stops and Nicholas begins. He just became a sad person, who has an unhealthy relationship with food and lost any understanding of what is too far to monetize(like the domestic abuse videos with Orlin or the Stephanie Soo situation, where she had a serious issue with his behavior and he just threatened her and then clickbaited a lot so he could monetize her trauma) he takes real, important topics that shouldn't be trivialized and mocks them.
There's been so much about Nick on TH-cam so I wondered whether you would have something to add that's not already been said, but your perspective on this as on so much else is really engaging. Really well done!
It’s not just a character. I remember watching him cry the same way 5 or 6 years ago when he was skinny and trying to be positive. He would cry and eat food just like he does now
I could have gone my entire life without having to hear them eating for a straight minute thank you but no that was just cruel 🤣🤣
Right? She left an eternal minute of him snorting food for us to hear, I was doing the dished and couldn't skip it, my ears are nauseated now 😭
I knew for years that he was a talented violinist but I had no idea he had full scholarships, music accolades, and a degree in his art. So much wasted potential. I really wish he would get better mentally and physically, and play for the world again.
I hope he becomes aware before it’s too late. I would say that having broken ribs, constantly pooping yourself (people die from stuff like that, people have even died from being constipated), and having to wear a CPAP at night should have been a wake up call. It’s much easier to lose weight and get healthy when you’re young than it it is when you’re older.
It’s really depressing how he is literally killing him self…
Thank you Madison and Riley. I look forward to these videos. Its nice to see a couple working together and helping each other genuinely.
i love this girl and how organized her vids are.. flawless editing too
right? the organization is amazin g, makes my adhd brain go brrrrr
She's gorgeous and funny too. Very intelligent!
Finally. When u make a vid its more relaxing to watch than most creators. U bring comfort.
Wow thank u 🥺
@@cruelworldhappymind yeah it is. U stayed so normal and humble. for real! No chaos on ur channel yet u make us learn, laugh and the edeting is great!
that intro was just beautiful... that sweet sweet music with him going completely bonkers in the background
I wish more people would check out this channel! You are so good at narrating every aspect of Niko’s life and with SO MUCH RESPECT! Thank you for sharing your content, it’s great 👍 love from Brazil 🇧🇷
Brazil!! 😍 My BJJ coach is from Brazil, I want to visit there so bad!
Além do bom conteúdo, um dos motivos de eu ver o canal dela é que a voz e sotaque dela é clara e precisa
ai amo encontrar brs nos comentarios dos meus canais favoritos 🤩
I agree with you, Leticia. She handled this topic well and the editing is amazing too.
It’s just so incredibly bizarre to me that someone would binge eat on camera and then that there is such a huge audience for it.
A lot of people probably watch him just to laugh or come for the drama and weird shit that happens during the video
I haven't watched Madison's video yet, so maybe she mentions this, but I'm about 95 percent sure it's a fetish thing
Yeah, I guess I didn’t think about that aspect. For me, there’s just something about eating sounds on camera that get me like nails on a chalkboard. In person, it doesn’t bother me. So those videos are definitely not for me
I definitely think Nik's "crazy" side is just a character, but I also think he is genuinely going through some serious issues with food. Perhaps he felt deprived during his vegan journey and went the complete opposite route to overindulgence in order to satisfy previous cravings? I really hope he gets on track health-wise! It actually breaks my heart to see those videos of him playing the violin so beautifully, he's so talented and bright and now he just acts foolish... I can tell he's a really nice person when he isn't acting. If you watch his videos with Hungryfatchick, he is always so pleasant and is actually calm to listen to. I wish him the best!