Everybody Gangsta Till the 9 Shows Up - 14 Minesweeper Variants
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2022
- 14 Minesweeper Variants Part 2 - all hail the 9. This is my favorite variant so far, where some mines are worth more than others and nines (and above?) can show up. How high can we get?
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The logic from Tyler is absolutely nuts. I can ever so slowly work my way to understanding the thoughts behind the logic, but at like 5% the speed. Midnight (EST) has been my favorite time of day for the past few months. Loving the logic games!
Tyler is just super big brain. Like his comprehension of everything is just off the charts. He makes all of us meer mortals look dumb with his massive cranium
Helps that he's cutting out the parts where he thinks
@@oledakaajel yeah, I see he cuts some thinking parts out, but still half the time it’s just a fluid train of thought that I need to pause and rewind and stop myself to follow along.
i imagine doing this on youtube is actually pretty beneficial, as it lets him talk through his thoughts
I watch the minesweeper videos on .75 speed when I'm watching them before bed. Definitely recommend it!
I think the best part about this game is the random puzzle generator. It knows all the logic you can use to solve minesweeper and is not afraid to make you use it.
Also the fact that we don’t get a big chunk of blank pieces at the start of the game like normal minesweeper, dead giveaways are also turned into a question mark.
It's random? I thought each one was pre-made
@@cinnamonjam9173 i think its random, in the bottom left there is a number, i guess thats like a seed?
@@lucamega1212 huh damn their puzzle algorithm must be pretty good
@@lucamega1212 itd make a lot more sense than manually making over a thousand boards per puzzle type
Forgetting that you already saw a number larger than eight is such a vibe lol
Humans weren't meant to count higher than 3, we have lost our way
@laith if you look up indigenous counting systems, most of them don't go past 3 or 5 or whatever and just have a 'many' number after that. being able to count to arbitrarily high numbers is a modern concept
@@Patashu I think the basic limit is 4. Anything higher than that is just "alot"
@laith it would be, if it were true. It very much isn’t, though.
Almost every language has words for numbers until 20 or so. Pirahã, a very unusual language linguists have heated conversations about, only has words for 1, 2 and “many”, but it’s extremely unusual in that and a lot of other aspects. More controversially, Daniel Everett, the guy who studied it back in the 1980’s claims it falsifies Universal Grammar, which the very influential linguist Noam Chomsky had proposed a few decades before, but it’s very difficult to determine whether Everett’s analysis was correct since no one speaks the damn language outside of him and the Pirahã, and the whole thing is very confusing.
Anyway, languages have very varied counting systems. The ones indigenous to New Guinea are particularly fun, Telefol uses base-27, and Kalam uses base-23. I don’t know what they mean by “indigenous languages”, since every natural language is indigenous to some place, but they probably mean “native to a culture that hasn’t been extensively globalized”. Whatever they mean, not having words for numbers larger than 2 isn’t common anywhere.
@laith real
I wonder if we'll get to see Tyler use a uniqueness-based argument in one of these (i.e. arguing that _because_ the generator guarantees that all the puzzles are uniquely solvable, you can disprove a mine placement that would lead to a mandatory 50/50).
God that logic makes my head hurt...
This reminds me of some Light-Up boards I've seen, where a fragment of the board will definitely have multiple solutions if a light is (not) placed somewhere. Really fun to think about these cases.
He used in the final puzzle of the first video
Ooh like in sudokus!
The speed of Tyler's logic solving is insane. Given enough time, I can do all these puzzles, but it'd take me like a month.
There are cuts in the video while he's thinking.
But like all the takes are within the same day
This almost feels like a strange soduku puzzle the way he solves it, like in the "here's what doesn't work, so this is what must work" method
4:08 you actually got a bit lucky here, as while the grey you flag is guaranteed, it was possible with the clues you knew for the black to be a flag, since the 1 still had a black square adjacent to it that was NOT adjacent to the 3. if that has been a mine, then both the black and grey squares above the 3 would also have been mines.
I'm curious as to how it would actually be solved (I had a similar comment in the previous video where that happened).
Edit: The 4 in the bottom row means at least one black square next to the 4 in the middle column has a mine, which in turn means the square with the 9 does not have a mine. This means the 4 in the middle column and the 1 next to it act as a 2-1 pair, giving the 1 at the bottom-right; this forces a mine and completes the 3.
@@btf_flotsam478 the gray square top-left from the 3 is 100% a bomb since the 3 couldn't be all three of the black squares due to the 1, which means the middle 4 has two unknown bombs
we know the 4 on the left must use the gray square since the three black squares couldn't suffice, which means we know the middle 4 will also use one of those bombs/black squares to the left and below it
so now we know the middle 4 needs one more black square, and we know that the 7 can share at minimum 3 bombs with the 4 (Tyler explained at 3:37)
since we know it isn't the grey square top-left from the middle 4, then that means every other bomb that the 7 shares with that 4 is a bomb (which leaves the black squares left and right of the middle 4)
because the black square to the right of the middle 4 is a bomb, that satisfies all three of the bombs that the 3 needed, so all the other squares could be cleared (including the one Tyler clicked)
Came down here to check I wasn't crazy. I couldn't see how to conclude the black was safe.
@@syaba2327 why wouldn’t the configuration of the middle 4 having the right and bottom squares be a mine work? At this point of the video it seems possible that the bottom left 4 could have the grey square and the black squares on top and right being mined while the middle 4 has the mine at the top right square with 2 mines at the bottom and right of it. It satisfies the 1 so the 3 could have the grey square and black square on top (where the original comment said he got lucky) of it being mines. At the same time the top 3 squares of the 7 could be mines to complete it
@@montano0222 it would overload the 1 if that was the case, that would be 2 for it
Fun fact: the largest possible number in the multiple version is 12, which would have been interesting to see how the game would handle it since usually the numbers are single digits.
Would probably just squish the numbers into the box, or shrink the number.
I always found the elusive 8 to be fascinating and satisfying. Cause whenever an 8 showed up in the regular game you essentially received a free 8 mines (as every square around the 8 is a mine).
One thing this game intrigues me with is the fact that it has a 0, i dont think the base game ever used 0, it only used blank spaces, which the question marks basically fill
the game actually doesn't allow for numbers 10 and above
@@fusionwing4208 in the original version if you got a zero the game showed a blank square and the game automatically revealed neighboring tiles for you
The blanks are zeros in the original. The question mark is absolutely not the same as these. A question mark doesn't tell you how many tiles have mines around the space while a blank in the original tell you there's exactly 0.
@@ezra7088 it does, it just squishes the number in
Featured rulesets: [S] [M] [Cc]
[S] - Standard Minesweeper rules
[E] - We stick together
[T] - Tic-tac-no
[M] - Some idiot put an extra mine in the grey squares!
[Cc] - The minefield is colored like a chessboard
By the way, should I add the previous episode’s rules as well?
Yes,
Also, I think cc comes from checkers since that's cc
Am i the only one who wants to see a board in this game featuring all the rules active at once? Its probably impossible, but would be interesting to see.
@@fusionwing4208 Small spoiler alert:
That may actually be the case in the final game, as the final category in the demo already mixes two rulesets.
nice memory lol
what's impossible is how you manage to figure these puzzles out so fast, like dang .. I only recently realised that the minesweeper numbers weren't anything to do with the proximity to the nearest mine, but the frequency of the mines lol.
I love how these variants start really confusing but with an easy board, and then one eventually gets the flow and can do the 8x8 easily, great game design
11:28 deja vu I have been in this place before
I absolutely love minesweeper and this game fuels my addiction.
Have you tried demoncrawl?
Multiple and Triplet were my favorite variants by far, they add a HUGE dimension to the game, I look forward to seeing what other variants are introduced in the final version
Tyler, practically speedrunning minesweeper while explaining the logic
Also Tyler: doesn’t remember seeing a nine a few puzzles ago
Gotta love Tyler’s content never disappoints
You could make a drinking game out of him saying mine everytime
Please actually do this with water. You'll be SO hydrated. 😂
@@aayyyooooo I'll be high rated ( it's ok if you don't get the reference I'll tell you )
3:44 could we just appreciate how perfect is the line that tyler drew right here
Congratulations on 500k subs ! Keep up the good work, your videos are the highlight of my day
Ah, my favourite time of day, Tyler o’clock (10:00 MST)
good ol midnight
@@user_hat yup, feels good
YOOO, CONGRATS ON 500K BROTHER! THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
I am very excited to see more of this game Tyler. Looking forward to when the complete game comes out. :D
If you blink while listening to Tyler’s logic you won’t understand what is going on
Congrats on 500k subs!!
So crazy to see how much you’ve grown. I remember being subbed when you only had a few hundred 😅
Tyler: I'm going to teach you how to play minesweeper real quick for those who don't know
me: aight cool
Tyler: This 3 combined with this 2 tells us there's no mine in these squares. then we have this 5 combined with the 4 combined with a 2 tells us no mine in this corner. Then we follow the pythagorean theorem and take the square root of this 4 to find the two squares with no mines, but we know 3 more mines because 5 + 3 = 8, and 3 is a prime number, so if we follow the opening lyrics to mambo number 5 we can solve for X, which is 2
me: wut?
Tyler makes minesweeper look like easy game
Every time he says mine take a shot
Oh boy, I can't wait to see him take on the Liar puzzles! Melted my brain.
You are incredible at minesweeper! Keep up the great work!
Always nice to see you work on minesweeper games
Congrats on 500 k subs!
I liked the first video, happy to see another.
Congrats on 500k!
Congrats for the 500k !
If you click on numbers it will fill in mines and empty spaces that are forced by that number: this means complete numbers will show the rest of the squares without a mine, numbers where the rest of the adjacent squares are mines will be marked, and if a number has 1 remaining it will clear out squares that count as 2.
I'd like to see those moments where Ben teases Tyler with a message have the screen zoom in on the facecam. Just to really bring out the comedy
Some of the music in this reminds me of the music used in Beyond the Chiron Gate.
And I think one of the other tracks has been used in an old video called Parametric Expression.
I missed watching Tyler's videos :O finally some games I'm interested in again!
this game looks awesome
I have a nice logic to uncover some tiles
It looks at the 2 adjacent numbers and tiles that they don't share.
It says, for example in your case in the beginning
3 next to 4: 4 - 3 = 1 which means that *left of 3 is exactly 1 less mine than right of 4*
2 in the corner says that *at least 1 mine is left of 3, which means that at least 2 are right of 4*
This logic also applies up and down (if one number is above the other), not just left and right (and also to triangular and hexagonal minesweeper)
Similarly, right after you have 2 on the left border and 2 next to it
Since left of left 2 is 0 mines, therefore right of right 2 is 0 mines
Than 2 and 3 right after that:
There is exactly 1 mine left of 2, therefore 2 mines right of 3
Gotta say I’ve played my fair amount of minesweeper and I had to pause the video at least 7 times to work out what you just said… wow
It's confirmed, Tyler is a human SAT solver.
Congats 500k subs
Tyler! Tyler! Tyler! Into the Breach just got an advanced addition!
Nice
500k pog you should do a marathon of your favorite games
Nice video! As a minesweeper veteran, I find that 1.75x speed is perfect to follow along.
Surprisingly, you are correct about speed.
standard ends at 2:50 for all those who just want the new stuff
Minesweeper gameplay: 💣
Minesweeper lore:
Happy 500k
I want to see Tyler doing the complicated sudokus
Still mad that this level of logic is so rare in humans. WHY MUST YOU BE SO DAMN UNIQUE!
9 is the FINAL BOSS in normal minesweeper
I was just waiting with my breakfast for 10 o'clock so i could watch Tyler's vid and eat ☺
What time is it 4 you for me it's 12
It's 10 am
And I thought Tametsi was the most broken my brain would get from Minesweeper
oh boy
I was wondering when this was gonna happen
Tyler is so fucking fast at thinking through things it's unreal, it's like seeing a grandmaster play speed chess
Who needs memory when you compute so fast lol
Logic: 9 memory: 2
Have you considered playing Filament? It seems like the type of game you would be good at.
I wonder what you'd think of HTwins' Minesweeper...
What do the question marks in the first one mean?
I was wondering when he would upload
Man this video bummed me out. I'm going into college in a month plus a few weeks and now I feel dumb 😔
nice memory lol
In the previous video I could understand it, but this time, why can't Tyler use the "Next level" option instead of exiting to the menu and choosing manually?
4:12 was not legit logic - we knew there had to be at least 2 mines unique to the 3, but we could have had both of those be mines and the 1 have the mine to the bottom left
Yep the correct logic was to start from bottom left which would lead to the fact that the middle 4 was sharing a mine with the 1, thus clearing the bottom right corner 1, revealing the mine.
Went looking for this comment, his logic seemed very wrong to me. A bit sad the game hasn't figured out how to verify that a guess is most-definitely a guess, and punish it with a loss.
@@feha92 The game actually does have that option, but I don't think Tyler has it enabled (or maybe he doesn't know about it)
At the end I thought "6 mines remaining? That means it can be 3 grays!" what a Buffon i was.
[M] is my favourite one and [L] is really cringe (It's so annoying because i'm still getting used to minesweeper puzzles lol)
Nice memory lol
Numbers I don't forget. Hey guys looks at this 9
Tyler gets introduced to memes. FINALLY!
drinking game: take a shot everytime tyler says mine :3
The largest number in [M][Cc] is 12!
you should add more games to your end screen
drinking game: drink every time tyler says mine
Logic games are my favorite because they don't depend on randomness to often
I wonder if a puzzle game could be built around determining when or where randomness is in play.
Like a "one of these things doesn't follow the logic" thing
@@WukongTheMonkeyKing I think at one point I saw a puzzle game where you could push a 'this is impossible' button and you'd win/lose on the spot depending on your guess
4:34 A NINE!?!?!?!?!?
aliensrock
Why don’t the mines in gray count as two for the total?
From all the minesweeper I have played i'm 99% sure mines need a number to exist so there couldn't be 4 mines on a corner like it's seen in 12:19 . Am i wrong?
you should play NaissanceE
Now with this the rarest is 12 😅
500KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
I wanna see a rule learning game like the witness, but every puzzle is minesweeper and all the rules are new symbols and variations, but you dont know what they mean
11:28 😅
How many times did Tyler say mine? I must know!
I have a degree in computer science, and this makes me feel dumb.
The fact that opened cells and not opened cells have the same exact background color makes me want to puke.
Wait, that's illegal.
i would have misclicked at least 7 times in this video alone
this logic makes sense to me, but tyler starts off too fast. it takes me a bit longer to realize the implications of initial squares
skill issue lol
Oi mate you usually go 20mins, I've been robbed of me 8 minutes here. I'm going to need those back or a double upload tomorrow.
8 minutes????
@@DarkVoidMeowww he went 12 minutes on this vid, he usually does at least 20.... 20-12=8....
Sleep!
If you play this , there kan be a 12 ( twelve )
15h gang
Ninesweeper, anyone?
An interesting variant on the [?] square I just thought about: [O]dd and [E]ven.
For the people who came here for the 9 here it is: 11:21