From the Orca Boats series of videos on building a wood strip stand up paddleboard. The videos shows fiberglassing the deck and hull of the wooden board. Visit us at www.orcaboats.ca
Simple enough to do on a flat surface. There are projects that I do pre-coat if I felt that the wood was very porous and might soak up too much epoxy and starve the glass. So I just add a bit more when putting epoxy on bare wood. Let it soak in and clear the glass then remove excess.
The design of this particular SUP is from Clearwater paddle boards and is called the "Umpqua" Randy at Clearwater sells the internal frames and kits. I can also supply the materials to build the board, but not the plans or frame.
Justin Z There are no fillers added to any areas that you want clear coated. Any substance such as micro bubbles added to the mixed epoxy will discolour the resin whitish . MIcro-bubbles are for fairing a surface as the resin becomes easier to sand, but is most commonly used when the surface would be painted or is not intended to be clear.
The external fiberglass and epoxy resin is required for strength and to seal it. The internal frame provides internal structure, but the 1/4 inch cedar planking could easily be broken if you land hard on it if it was not re-enforced.
+Maximilian Hans No. Epoxy is amazingly safe. Tree huggers make a fuss, but the truth is. Wear some cheap latex gloves and a $30 respirator and you beyond safe. And it is inert after it cures. Many people wear nothing and do fine for decades.
+Naked Acres then they were lucky. i got an allergy after working a lot with it and everytime im in the same room with someone opening a can of epoxy my whole body starts itching... but thats not the reason why i asked. i was just asking myself how people did it before epoxy was developed. did they use some kind of glue?
brietzmann Epoxy sensitivity is rare and usually caused by lack of proper PPE's. The original kayak's were made of a wood frame and covered with seal skin. The wood was steamed and fitted tight and the skin held it tight. Many people still use them today, but they are crazy fragile and nuts expensive. The other small boat, the canoe was also wood and covered in birch bark. "the birch bark canoe" or was dug out from a solid log. "the dug out". Other boats are made with wood that is steamed and fit tight enough to keep water out. Some are bare wood, but most have varnish or paint sealing them. Basically if you can think of a way to build a boat it has been done. Look on youtube for a maritime museum or on my channels. They have vids showing the old shipwrights doing it old old school.
Nothing. I apply the next coats before last one is fully cured so there is a chemical bond. This is about 3-4 hours later at room temp with the brand of epoxy used. West 105 resin with 207 hardener.
I was born in 87, still traumatized by this breakfast club movie music.. as well as modern 2019 music.. FYI over coating before second bond will create a seam separation layer between first coat on opposite side that will show up with being submerged a dozen times. Best to first coat wait than flip than second than wait. You can do 3 coats next day after a light 400 grit sand
Not sure if I made it clear in the video, but coats 2 and 3 are applied with 3 hours between so there is a chemical bond between coats 1, 2 and 3. Music is Brian Ferry of Roxy Music fame?
great video. I do that same thing with epoxy cup, turn it upside down so most all epoxy drips out.
Very helpful series.
Dry glass with epoxy over top...or precoat before laying the glass down. Any particular reason you choose the dry method?
Simple enough to do on a flat surface. There are projects that I do pre-coat if I felt that the wood was very porous and might soak up too much epoxy and starve the glass. So I just add a bit more when putting epoxy on bare wood. Let it soak in and clear the glass then remove excess.
Very well I work my congratulations. regards
That's a beautiful piece of work ! Is that a Kit and if so, could you point me towards where i could purchase one please ?
The design of this particular SUP is from Clearwater paddle boards and is called the "Umpqua" Randy at Clearwater sells the internal frames and kits. I can also supply the materials to build the board, but not the plans or frame.
did you use fillers in your epoxy, if so what kinds? will micro glass bubbles still let you get a clear finish ? You do good work, It is inspiring.
Justin Z There are no fillers added to any areas that you want clear coated. Any substance such as micro bubbles added to the mixed epoxy will discolour the resin whitish . MIcro-bubbles are for fairing a surface as the resin becomes easier to sand, but is most commonly used when the surface would be painted or is not intended to be clear.
When I make mine do I need to put the fibre glass or is there another way to seal it
The external fiberglass and epoxy resin is required for strength and to seal it. The internal frame provides internal structure, but the 1/4 inch cedar planking could easily be broken if you land hard on it if it was not re-enforced.
OrcaBoats would there be any other way to gain strength from the outside? i mean without any chemicals like epoxy
+Maximilian Hans No. Epoxy is amazingly safe. Tree huggers make a fuss, but the truth is. Wear some cheap latex gloves and a $30 respirator and you beyond safe. And it is inert after it cures. Many people wear nothing and do fine for decades.
+Naked Acres then they were lucky. i got an allergy after working a lot with it and everytime im in the same room with someone opening a can of epoxy my whole body starts itching...
but thats not the reason why i asked. i was just asking myself how people did it before epoxy was developed.
did they use some kind of glue?
brietzmann Epoxy sensitivity is rare and usually caused by lack of proper PPE's. The original kayak's were made of a wood frame and covered with seal skin. The wood was steamed and fitted tight and the skin held it tight. Many people still use them today, but they are crazy fragile and nuts expensive. The other small boat, the canoe was also wood and covered in birch bark. "the birch bark canoe" or was dug out from a solid log. "the dug out". Other boats are made with wood that is steamed and fit tight enough to keep water out. Some are bare wood, but most have varnish or paint sealing them. Basically if you can think of a way to build a boat it has been done. Look on youtube for a maritime museum or on my channels. They have vids showing the old shipwrights doing it old old school.
What is done with the cut off cloth? How do you reuse it?
I save some of the larger scrap pieces which I use for other smaller projects or sell, but most are disposed of.
What was done between coats on the deck?
Nothing. I apply the next coats before last one is fully cured so there is a chemical bond. This is about 3-4 hours later at room temp with the brand of epoxy used. West 105 resin with 207 hardener.
+OrcaBoats thanks I'll give that a try. Yeah I'm using west as well.
I was born in 87, still traumatized by this breakfast club movie music.. as well as modern 2019 music..
FYI over coating before second bond will create a seam separation layer between first coat on opposite side that will show up with being submerged a dozen times. Best to first coat wait than flip than second than wait. You can do 3 coats next day after a light 400 grit sand
Not sure if I made it clear in the video, but coats 2 and 3 are applied with 3 hours between so there is a chemical bond between coats 1, 2 and 3. Music is Brian Ferry of Roxy Music fame?
My bad..good work
Bryan Ferry!
that music is horrible. .... omg. but hey to each his own. nice vid.