Nearly 3 years after you made this review, I have just found it and enjoyed it greatly. I bought my MT10 2 years and 4 months ago and I am still completely besotted by it. I started off with the Comfort seat(had a go on a demo. bike and didn't like the standard seat), the screen, the hand guards, the cooling radiator shield and a front fender extender. The next mod was a Givi rack(because I already have a Givi 52L box) and then I put 2 different extensions on the mirrors(which I couldn't see out of either). One extension was a 40mm extra on the upright and the about the same on the arm. both of these pairs were bought off Ebay and now, I can see clearly where I've been! I like you, like an engine with character and this one has it in bucketsful. I've been riding bikes for way over 50 years and I always thought, that Japanese 4s were the thing to have, but this engine completely rewrites the book. The sound is what sold me on it, even before I knew much about it and so my beloved Blackbird went away with a few tears and the new bike came to join my others. However, it's a bit like, when you make love to a new woman, it all seems very different, but once you've been in the saddle a few times, it's fantastic!
@@robfearonphotographyhillwa9583 Hi Rob. I guess you're talking about a new bike, not a new woman! If it's the bike, then the riding position is definitely more upright and (for me) more comfortable than a sports bike, but the MT10 is really all about that fantastic engine. If it's a woman, then different riding positions are always fun!
Love your review! I just bought a reg. MT -10. Us Canadians aren’t so lucky, no SP version. Anyway the bike is Brill. Wish I could go back to the UK😀. It has been way to long! Love your accent and demeanour. Thanks again.
Good review. I bought a 2018 MT10 (matte silver/yellow) and love it. The mileage is similar to other bikes in its class but with only 17 litres can't expect a huge range. The shove of torque in the mid-range is so addictive. My first rear tire only lasted 3700km due to the power this thing makes. All those 3rd gear wheelies didn't help! I also love the sound it makes. My previous bike, MT09 was so quiet. This one sounds great even when just cruising slowly.
I would hire one if you can Dave. I have had the "standard" (how ever you can say it) for about nine months. I am very pleased (silly grin riding all the time). The comfort seat is useful if you have a pillion. Suspension on the straight 10 is a little hard if the tires are correctly inflated (dealers may presnt uninflated). I ride mine on similarly awful road surfaces which spoil some great bendy bits. I enjoy how it is rock solid when giving it beans out of a corner (not with the wife on the back too often). To say I love the MT10 is an undestatement, it's almost immotional. I'm 68 and it suits me fine, keeps my discipline on a fine edge! Some have upgraded the quick shifter to an after market up and down one, might tip a rider into a hoon status. Anything you think an owner could answer let me know. I do think you are right, it is hoon bike and potter in traffic bike par exellance. It keeps me young.
Barry Roberts Great stuff Barry, I hope that I'm still riding cutting edge bikes like the MT in 20 years time, so every credit to you sir. I agree, hiring a bike is a great way to fully make your mind up, and I'm sure the stock 10 is 99% of the SP. I'll be meditating on these topics over winter for next year, and I have a lot of food for thought
Barry. I have reduced the compression damping on the front of my MT10, not much but a little and I found it better , when you pitch into a bumpy corner, whilst feathering the brakes. It just stops the front tyre from tending to 'skitter' on the bumps and be a little more stable. I'm 69 and I've had bikes since I was 13 and this thing and that engine never fails to put a smile on my face.
So the Street triple rs or the MT10? What would you go for? In the strs review you said that bike had the sweet spot for power but you seem to be changing your opinion slightly as the MT10 is significantly more powerful.
I know, I'm a flakey bastard aren't I. I'm torn and no mistake, but my thinking is that if you want to do a bit of touring, then the Street Triple would lack a bit of the low revving motorway comfort that the MT would give you, but I'm still leaning more towards the Street Triple because that was just more out and out fun as you can really let the engine rip, and If I can work my finances correctly, I'd like to be able to keep my Tiger Explorer for touring and have a Street 3 for Sunday fundays. However If I can only afford one bike, then the MT might have the edge. I don't know, I really don't know....
VeeFour it's just the weight that slightly lets the MT10 down even with a full system and lit battery it would still be 10-15kg more than the STR, also the super relaxed position makes the front end a bit floaty compared to the STR. But that MT power and sound 😈
Street or speed all day. MT10 seriously snatch throttle to the point of danger at slow speeds. Triumph simply quality and power is superb, test ride both, you'll walk away with a triumph
Great review! I have one question, if you were to buy one bike and that would your only bike. Would you choose the Triumph Street Triple RS, Yamaha MT10 SP, or the Yamaha MT09 SP and why?
Running only 1 bike and one of them has to be one of those 3? In that scenario I would get the MT-10 SP. Even though it's pretty bad on fuel, I'd still prefer to sacrifice some nimbleness and economy for a more stable and comfortable long distance motorway ride
Mate I enjoy your vids ...I loved your street triple review after that vid i purchased a street triple 660 2015 ...loooove it 😁 BTW you deserve alot more subs
Thanks mate, I appreciate your kind feedback. I just wish manufacturers felt the same and offered me more bikes to test. The Street is a great choice, you wont go wrong with that one 👍👍
adrian tompson I'd have to have them now that I've ridden them, as the bike just felt connected to the road no matter how choppy the road surface became. You have a great bike sir 👍
I only recently got to test ride this bike and agree with everything you say in the review. Sold my Tiger Explorer as got fed up with the weight management and was tempted to the MT10 but reckon my licence would soon be in trouble as this is a bike screaming to be used! Great handling, suspension and engine and really well screwed together. I reckon its better made than the s1000r. Cons were very little weather protection for rider and bike, poor fuel range unless ridden gently. In the end the Tiger was replaced with the r1200gsa which I love. I was surprised to feel that even the mt10 couldn't knock the gsa off its perch as for me it temains the better all rounder. Is it as much fun? Nope...but the licence is safe and it does everything well whilst having all the bells and whistles and has tons of character. I'd still love an MT10 in the garage though...or the triple rs.66
Yeah,, that fuel consumption was the killer for me. It somehow manages to be worse than my R1 and that was a thirsty bike too. I've still got my Tiger Explorer and he is a weighty beast indeed, so the low slung boxer engine in the GSA will feel like a big improvement straight out of the box 👍
James w Mallory Thanks. I try to give riders who are looking seriously at a particular bike, a more balanced insight into the machine so that they can make a more informed decision on where they should spend their hard earned cash 👍
VeeFour was looking for speed triple, but liken the fz10. Haven't seen the Mt sp here in States yet, but really wasn't looking hard for it, if it's here I'll find it in a year or two lol
Excellent review! I wish the SP was available here in the USA. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Yamaha brings it here. IF they do, I'd say I'll have one in my stable. Stay safe out there!
Stuart Langley cheers old mate. I'm not bothered about the MT07 as it's physically very small on me when I plant my ample buttocks on it and I look like I'm on a 125. I will ride the 09 when I get the chance as that looks like a very fun bike indeed. Price wise, the R1 is another £2100 on top of the SP, but it does have the titanium engine internals for a faster revving motor and another 40hp in power, plus a much MUCH better traction control system (I may be wrong, but I think the TC on the MT10 is taken from the 2014 R1).
Great review 👌 im seriously thinking of having one of these. Ive got a 2016 zx10r tuned, which is awesome. But im sick of the discomfort of sportsbikes.
out of intreset have you tried the KTM Superduke GT / BMW S1000XR ? great video again btw :) Both meet the "Nice to play on, touring, fun & fast & the rest"
I did think this bike would have you throwing you bank card at Yamaha but you didn't seem too excited by it. When I tested the standard I was left laughing mess just loved it, in contrast I found the Triple RS was too down on low down torque and bit unstable at high speeds (check my review and see when it steps out on my). Great review and glad you loved the handling, high praise coming from a R1 owner. This is my top choice for next bike except for my heart lusting after a 899/959 Panigale (why did they have to make it so gorgeous). Out of curiosity why are you going to a 1 bike set up? Will the R1 get chopped in?
The Incredible Sulk It might happen yet, and I had to restrain myself when the dealer offered me a good deal the demo I rode, but it'sa bit late in the year to be buying a new bike so I'll be giving it a lot of thought over the winter and I'll see about next spring. The only reason why I wasn't wetting myself over it was simply down to the fact that it felt so similar to the R1. Even though the power delivery is lower down the rev range, and the seating position is more ergonomically friendly, you can still feel the R1 DNA in the ride, so it just felt pleasantly familiar and like being at home. I can't see myself selling the R1 as I love it to much, however I really want to convert it to a full time track bike as that's where it belongs. I'd probably sell my Triumph and my 2007 R1 track bike and just go down to one road bike, which the MT would be perfect for. I'm not sure about Ducati ownership myself. I've tested a couple but as a day to day mount, I'm not sure I'd trust one to not let me down
oh, and the reason why I might go to a 1 road bike situation, is that it's expensive and a pain in the arse keeping 2 bikes insured, taxed, serviced and shod in decent rubber 😭
VeeFour ya don't know how people manage to justify the cost of owning multiple bikes. Looking forward to what you decide and end up with. So after living with the R1 it sounds like you wouldn't recommend as a road bike ? I just wish you could have the R1 looks with MT comfort 😩
That's the plan Windy. Modern sports bikes are so track focused these days, that without doing track days on them you're only using 10% of their capability. This is also why naked bikes like the MT10 win out, because you have all that lovely race bike DNA but you can use them day to day 👍
I got the standard model because a suspension repair bill scares me 🙊. The standard model once dialled in is wonderful as is .. but it does need a pipe !
Pocketpunch I can imagine the Standard MT is every bit as good as the SP, I've never been in a situation where I've thought "I wish I had electronically controlled damping here"
Thanks for going to the trouble to self-fact-check and provide accurate content in the videos with text overlays! I had a 2011 FZ1, the predicessor of this machine. If this MT-10 wasn't so ugly, wasn't so thirsty, I'd be interested in it. The cost point is probably about right considering the technology but I do prefer the GSX-S1000 in this category for it being a bit more simplistic, much less thirsty, and making plenty of power anyway.
30-34 mpg (US gal) per fuelly(dot)com. That's a solid 10 mpg less than the GSX-S1000 makes with closely similar power figures. I rode the MT-10 yesterday at a Yamaha demo event. It's a beast with a torque curve that hits like a light switch, but honestly I found the MT-09 the sort of power and weight I would really make much more use of. Not to mention, the demo crew had a Yoshi exhaust fitted to the -09 and it made so many spine tingling noises, I don't think I'll ever forget it.
That's why I love my MT09-SP so much. It's power (which there's a lot of) is so much more useable in the real world, plus it does around 54 mpg (uk) whilst doing it, even with hard riding. Supernakeds are getting a bit silly these days, like their Superbike cousins before them. Unless you want to risk your life or license, you can only use a fraction of a Supernaked's rev range on public roads, whereas middleweight bikes let you have much more fun before things get stupid and illegal
I've already owned a Tuono V4R 1000 and it was an awesome bike, but a bit highly strung for day to day use, but I should revisit the 1100 though just for research purposes
Definitely try the 1100, I owned a 16 plate for 18 months and loved it, also got to take the new 17 Factory around Silverstone and it was stunning. Compared to the 1000 it's got significantly more usable grunt and the seat is more comfortable, I still found the pegs a little high for mile crunching. Picking up my new SuperDuke in 2 weeks, can't bloody wait!
Thank you. No it's fitted with standard ABS, but I found the brakes to be more than adequate for the road, and with a pad upgrade they will be really strong (as I found on my R1)
Great Video looking at adding one of these to my Stable, I have been looking at the Speed Triple but i can't get on with the front end Im trying to like it but I suppose its a marmite Bike, thanks for the video
So I was going to buy one of these until I discovered people are getting 100miles(160km) or even worse before running out of fuel and this is the single biggest issue with this bike. And I am not talking about touring at all....It gets significantly less mileage than my BMW S1000RR (and it’s slower).
James w Mallory If I wasnt planning any long distance touring holidays, then the Street Triple I think. However, if I could only have one bike to do all things well, then the MT10, but I'm lucky to have the big Tiger Explorer for big distance, so the Street would make a perfect garage mate for it
Having tested the mt10sp and then the next day the bmw 1000r i found the yam far superior in most ways apart from the mental fuel it uses.The bmw had the worst seat ever and i remember the sales bloke telling me oh you can buy a comfort seat same as the yam but i did not find the yam seat uncomfortable.
There's a rad guard on the oil cooler at the bottom but the rad has none .if you buy one get rad and oil cooler guards ,cost my mate £700 for new rad when I fired a stone through it on my r6 before I bought one of these not the sp though
Ahhh Yamaha brakes. Don't get why they have scrimped on brakes so much. I rode one of these in 2017 with an idea to buy and absolutely loved it. Until a car pulled out while I was errrrr covering distance shall we say. Grabbed what I thought was the same handful of brakes that I would've on my 2014 zx-6rr and they weren't good! To the point I started to panic a little. Very wooden I found with not enough power for such a wicked and deceptively fast bike. I got it sorted but took a real handful and a couple of seconds of Mad Max 1 style eye bulge!! It put me off. I rode a 2018 Speed Triple this year and the Brembo brakes on that were astonishing and on a slower bike too. I also found MT-10 very top heavy when very slow speed manoeuvring and I'm not small.
I have discovered that the brakes can be improved immensely just by changing the stock pads out. I changed the pads on my 2016 R1 to a track compound (SBS RAFA) and all of a sudden it was like hitting a brick wall. They still lacked feeling and modulation, but they vastly improved the stopping power
@@VeeFour that's fair enough. I do kind of think though, with the amount of competition in the motorcycling world there's no excuse for anything, whether real or perceived, to be lacking. I love the R1 and MT-10, they sound and look incredible - but the MT-10 brakes did put me off unfortunately. Just my opinion though. That said, your blue R1 is one of the best looking off the floor bikes for sale 👌
I was always a big fan of the original Vmax, well it has bot my favourite engine configuration after all, but I agree, the later Max was an incongruous beast the never really found it's place. For me it occupies the same strata as the Triumph Rocket 3, just to big heavy and thirsty for any useful applications. Saying that though, the MT10 drinks like a sailor on shore leave as well
Those tyres that come with the bike are Not proper S20 . Bridgestone tyres that are purchased after sales are far superior to the dodgy ones that are on the bike when new. Beware!!
Oh yes indeed. I found this out for myself when I bought the MT09 SP, the S20s on that where as hard as pool balls, so I swapped them out for a much more agreeable set of Pirelli Rosso 3 after 30 miles. The improvement was dramatic. Apparently all the Japanese manufacturers put crap OE tyres on their bikes
Zac Slaman Perhaps we should trial changing the side of the road we use in the UK. We could have a trial period where motorcycles ride on the right for a month, and if it works then we can swap all the cars and trucks the following month 🤔🤔😉😂
There was a bit of that going on off camera. I just love how this bike delivers it's torque, it's more fun than my old V4 Tuono, and that's saying something!
They are very individual .like marmite it's a love hate thing.i love them trust me you pull up on these and people gather round more than any other bike I've owned
Yamaha, stainless steel fasteners, do me a favour m8.. 🤦♂️😅 If ur wanting top finish bike, then look no further than triumph....what u can see in front of you are chrome bolt caps, Japanese bikes are built to a price and the bean counters make sure of that....I'd say that kawasaki are the best out of the Japanese manufacturers at the moment.....
I'll agree with you about Triumph as I own one, but not about Yamaha (I own one of those too) There were plenty of quality stainless fastenings on this 2018 SP, as there are on my 2018 09SP. I don't know if this is still the case in 2021 but all bikes are built to a price by bran counters, and it's naive to think otherwise. I've own numerous Yams, and without exception they've all been finished to a rust resisting high standard, unlike Kawasaki, 2 month old demo examples of which I have seen with surface oxidation developing all over their obviously low quality fastenings
Nearly 3 years after you made this review, I have just found it and enjoyed it greatly. I bought my MT10 2 years and 4 months ago and I am still completely besotted by it. I started off with the Comfort seat(had a go on a demo. bike and didn't like the standard seat), the screen, the hand guards, the cooling radiator shield and a front fender extender. The next mod was a Givi rack(because I already have a Givi 52L box) and then I put 2 different extensions on the mirrors(which I couldn't see out of either). One extension was a 40mm extra on the upright and the about the same on the arm. both of these pairs were bought off Ebay and now, I can see clearly where I've been! I like you, like an engine with character and this one has it in bucketsful. I've been riding bikes for way over 50 years and I always thought, that Japanese 4s were the thing to have, but this engine completely rewrites the book. The sound is what sold me on it, even before I knew much about it and so my beloved Blackbird went away with a few tears and the new bike came to join my others. However, it's a bit like, when you make love to a new woman, it all seems very different, but once you've been in the saddle a few times, it's fantastic!
Ha Ha Great comment Im looking at adding one to my stable it looks so good, is the riding position more upright to a sports bike?
@@robfearonphotographyhillwa9583 Hi Rob. I guess you're talking about a new bike, not a new woman! If it's the bike, then the riding position is definitely more upright and (for me) more comfortable than a sports bike, but the MT10 is really all about that fantastic engine. If it's a woman, then different riding positions are always fun!
Hello! May I ask you for a link to the mirror extension and comfort seat?
Love your review! I just bought a reg. MT -10. Us Canadians aren’t so lucky, no SP version. Anyway the bike is Brill. Wish I could go back to the UK😀. It has been way to long! Love your accent and demeanour. Thanks again.
Andy Crawley The regular MT 10, will be every inch as beastly as the SP, so it's all good 💪
Good review. I bought a 2018 MT10 (matte silver/yellow) and love it. The mileage is similar to other bikes in its class but with only 17 litres can't expect a huge range. The shove of torque in the mid-range is so addictive. My first rear tire only lasted 3700km due to the power this thing makes. All those 3rd gear wheelies didn't help! I also love the sound it makes. My previous bike, MT09 was so quiet. This one sounds great even when just cruising slowly.
I would hire one if you can Dave. I have had the "standard" (how ever you can say it) for about nine months. I am very pleased (silly grin riding all the time). The comfort seat is useful if you have a pillion. Suspension on the straight 10 is a little hard if the tires are correctly inflated (dealers may presnt uninflated). I ride mine on similarly awful road surfaces which spoil some great bendy bits. I enjoy how it is rock solid when giving it beans out of a corner (not with the wife on the back too often). To say I love the MT10 is an undestatement, it's almost immotional. I'm 68 and it suits me fine, keeps my discipline on a fine edge! Some have upgraded the quick shifter to an after market up and down one, might tip a rider into a hoon status. Anything you think an owner could answer let me know. I do think you are right, it is hoon bike and potter in traffic bike par exellance. It keeps me young.
Barry Roberts Great stuff Barry, I hope that I'm still riding cutting edge bikes like the MT in 20 years time, so every credit to you sir.
I agree, hiring a bike is a great way to fully make your mind up, and I'm sure the stock 10 is 99% of the SP. I'll be meditating on these topics over winter for next year, and I have a lot of food for thought
Barry. I have reduced the compression damping on the front of my MT10, not much but a little and I found it better , when you pitch into a bumpy corner, whilst feathering the brakes. It just stops the front tyre from tending to 'skitter' on the bumps and be a little more stable. I'm 69 and I've had bikes since I was 13 and this thing and that engine never fails to put a smile on my face.
Gotta love that swedish gold! Ohlins is ALWAYS worth it. Great review man
It's not just name prestige either, these are some excellent bouncers!
So the Street triple rs or the MT10?
What would you go for?
In the strs review you said that bike had the sweet spot for power but you seem to be changing your opinion slightly as the MT10 is significantly more powerful.
I know, I'm a flakey bastard aren't I. I'm torn and no mistake, but my thinking is that if you want to do a bit of touring, then the Street Triple would lack a bit of the low revving motorway comfort that the MT would give you, but I'm still leaning more towards the Street Triple because that was just more out and out fun as you can really let the engine rip, and If I can work my finances correctly, I'd like to be able to keep my Tiger Explorer for touring and have a Street 3 for Sunday fundays. However If I can only afford one bike, then the MT might have the edge.
I don't know, I really don't know....
VeeFour it's just the weight that slightly lets the MT10 down even with a full system and lit battery it would still be 10-15kg more than the STR, also the super relaxed position makes the front end a bit floaty compared to the STR. But that MT power and sound 😈
Street or speed all day. MT10 seriously snatch throttle to the point of danger at slow speeds. Triumph simply quality and power is superb, test ride both, you'll walk away with a triumph
Great review! I have one question, if you were to buy one bike and that would your only bike. Would you choose the Triumph Street Triple RS, Yamaha MT10 SP, or the Yamaha MT09 SP and why?
Running only 1 bike and one of them has to be one of those 3? In that scenario I would get the MT-10 SP. Even though it's pretty bad on fuel, I'd still prefer to sacrifice some nimbleness and economy for a more stable and comfortable long distance motorway ride
Great video Dave, that Engine sounds mint. The crossplane crank makes it sound like a V8 at lower RPM doesn't it? I love the videos you make mate 🙂
Mate I enjoy your vids ...I loved your street triple review after that vid i purchased a street triple 660 2015 ...loooove it 😁 BTW you deserve alot more subs
Thanks mate, I appreciate your kind feedback. I just wish manufacturers felt the same and offered me more bikes to test. The Street is a great choice, you wont go wrong with that one 👍👍
ohlins on sp are brill had mine as low as 6 mpg love this bike,good review.
adrian tompson I'd have to have them now that I've ridden them, as the bike just felt connected to the road no matter how choppy the road surface became. You have a great bike sir 👍
I only recently got to test ride this bike and agree with everything you say in the review. Sold my Tiger Explorer as got fed up with the weight management and was tempted to the MT10 but reckon my licence would soon be in trouble as this is a bike screaming to be used! Great handling, suspension and engine and really well screwed together. I reckon its better made than the s1000r. Cons were very little weather protection for rider and bike, poor fuel range unless ridden gently.
In the end the Tiger was replaced with the r1200gsa which I love. I was surprised to feel that even the mt10 couldn't knock the gsa off its perch as for me it temains the better all rounder. Is it as much fun? Nope...but the licence is safe and it does everything well whilst having all the bells and whistles and has tons of character. I'd still love an MT10 in the garage though...or the triple rs.66
Yeah,, that fuel consumption was the killer for me. It somehow manages to be worse than my R1 and that was a thirsty bike too.
I've still got my Tiger Explorer and he is a weighty beast indeed, so the low slung boxer engine in the GSA will feel like a big improvement straight out of the box 👍
Your videos have lots of information so thanks it gives me a different prospective.
James w Mallory Thanks. I try to give riders who are looking seriously at a particular bike, a more balanced insight into the machine so that they can make a more informed decision on where they should spend their hard earned cash 👍
VeeFour was looking for speed triple, but liken the fz10. Haven't seen the Mt sp here in States yet, but really wasn't looking hard for it, if it's here I'll find it in a year or two lol
I'd have the stock (non sp) FZ10 over the Speed Triple, and I've owned the Triple too 👍
Great video, very informative and a decent review !taking a std one out for a test very soon so will see what prevails.
Thanks. It's a fun bike and if you like torque rich super nakeds then you'll love this one
Excellent review! I wish the SP was available here in the USA. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Yamaha brings it here. IF they do, I'd say I'll have one in my stable. Stay safe out there!
I've been thinking about this bike a lot too, which is usually bad news for my bank account
I was not thinking of it but now since I saw your review I like it more.
fantastic review mate I'm picking mine up next week I wanted to know with the power does the bike wheelie in 3rd gear without clutch?
I imagine that it will with very little effort, however I suck at wheelies so I'm not the best person to ask 😂
Enjoy your new bike, and ride safe 👍😎
Power wheelies in 3rd without the clutch are no problem on this bike.
Great review again Dave, I've always liked the mt's, will you be testing any other engine size mt's? And how does the price compare to the r1?
Stuart Langley cheers old mate. I'm not bothered about the MT07 as it's physically very small on me when I plant my ample buttocks on it and I look like I'm on a 125. I will ride the 09 when I get the chance as that looks like a very fun bike indeed.
Price wise, the R1 is another £2100 on top of the SP, but it does have the titanium engine internals for a faster revving motor and another 40hp in power, plus a much MUCH better traction control system (I may be wrong, but I think the TC on the MT10 is taken from the 2014 R1).
Great review 👌 im seriously thinking of having one of these. Ive got a 2016 zx10r tuned, which is awesome. But im sick of the discomfort of sportsbikes.
It sounds like the perfect bike for your needs then, as it's 1000cc sportsbike fast but really comfortsble, and that Crossplane engine is a peach
out of intreset have you tried the KTM Superduke GT / BMW S1000XR ? great video again btw :) Both meet the "Nice to play on, touring, fun & fast & the rest"
No not yet, but they're on my check list for sure!
I did think this bike would have you throwing you bank card at Yamaha but you didn't seem too excited by it. When I tested the standard I was left laughing mess just loved it, in contrast I found the Triple RS was too down on low down torque and bit unstable at high speeds (check my review and see when it steps out on my). Great review and glad you loved the handling, high praise coming from a R1 owner. This is my top choice for next bike except for my heart lusting after a 899/959 Panigale (why did they have to make it so gorgeous). Out of curiosity why are you going to a 1 bike set up? Will the R1 get chopped in?
The Incredible Sulk It might happen yet, and I had to restrain myself when the dealer offered me a good deal the demo I rode, but it'sa bit late in the year to be buying a new bike so I'll be giving it a lot of thought over the winter and I'll see about next spring.
The only reason why I wasn't wetting myself over it was simply down to the fact that it felt so similar to the R1. Even though the power delivery is lower down the rev range, and the seating position is more ergonomically friendly, you can still feel the R1 DNA in the ride, so it just felt pleasantly familiar and like being at home.
I can't see myself selling the R1 as I love it to much, however I really want to convert it to a full time track bike as that's where it belongs. I'd probably sell my Triumph and my 2007 R1 track bike and just go down to one road bike, which the MT would be perfect for.
I'm not sure about Ducati ownership myself. I've tested a couple but as a day to day mount, I'm not sure I'd trust one to not let me down
oh, and the reason why I might go to a 1 road bike situation, is that it's expensive and a pain in the arse keeping 2 bikes insured, taxed, serviced and shod in decent rubber 😭
VeeFour ya don't know how people manage to justify the cost of owning multiple bikes. Looking forward to what you decide and end up with. So after living with the R1 it sounds like you wouldn't recommend as a road bike ? I just wish you could have the R1 looks with MT comfort 😩
i think he's keeping the R1 just making it a dedicated track bike and not paying fees etc to for road use
That's the plan Windy.
Modern sports bikes are so track focused these days, that without doing track days on them you're only using 10% of their capability. This is also why naked bikes like the MT10 win out, because you have all that lovely race bike DNA but you can use them day to day 👍
What a great review of a fantastic bike, l love my SP 👍👍
Phil Hawkins so do I!
Another great video from you mate...im looking at this or the KTM Duke 1290 have you ridden tfhe KTD Duke?
If so which buke do you prefer?
Alas no, there's no KTM dealers near me, but I've never heard of anyone riding the SD and not liking it though
I got the standard model because a suspension repair bill scares me 🙊.
The standard model once dialled in is wonderful as is .. but it does need a pipe !
Pocketpunch I can imagine the Standard MT is every bit as good as the SP, I've never been in a situation where I've thought "I wish I had electronically controlled damping here"
VeeFour haha yeah absolutely. Its a nice bit of kit still. Great video, very informative and a genuine review !
SP is better by far, suspension wise, good God your thinking about repair costs already 😱😱😱😱🤪
Thanks for going to the trouble to self-fact-check and provide accurate content in the videos with text overlays!
I had a 2011 FZ1, the predicessor of this machine. If this MT-10 wasn't so ugly, wasn't so thirsty, I'd be interested in it. The cost point is probably about right considering the technology but I do prefer the GSX-S1000 in this category for it being a bit more simplistic, much less thirsty, and making plenty of power anyway.
I actually like the look, but I can see how it may divide opinion, but I agree on the terrible fuel mileage. I would own one now if it wasn't for that
30-34 mpg (US gal) per fuelly(dot)com. That's a solid 10 mpg less than the GSX-S1000 makes with closely similar power figures.
I rode the MT-10 yesterday at a Yamaha demo event. It's a beast with a torque curve that hits like a light switch, but honestly I found the MT-09 the sort of power and weight I would really make much more use of. Not to mention, the demo crew had a Yoshi exhaust fitted to the -09 and it made so many spine tingling noises, I don't think I'll ever forget it.
That's why I love my MT09-SP so much. It's power (which there's a lot of) is so much more useable in the real world, plus it does around 54 mpg (uk) whilst doing it, even with hard riding. Supernakeds are getting a bit silly these days, like their Superbike cousins before them. Unless you want to risk your life or license, you can only use a fraction of a Supernaked's rev range on public roads, whereas middleweight bikes let you have much more fun before things get stupid and illegal
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Suzuki B king is ten years old now and when you think about it was mental back then and was the first true hyper naked.
I got an MT10 recently wow the power
and it's all useable right where you want it 👍
That's a nice bike. Will probably upgrade in the spring. AND thanks for the sub. Can use all I can get.
Robert MacCready what are you upgrading from?
Great and honest review
I must ask compared to R1 isn’t it more of a upright position?
Oh yes, very much so
Nice review. I guess you're trying the Tuono and SuperDuke as well? All fantastic bikes.
I've already owned a Tuono V4R 1000 and it was an awesome bike, but a bit highly strung for day to day use, but I should revisit the 1100 though just for research purposes
Definitely try the 1100, I owned a 16 plate for 18 months and loved it, also got to take the new 17 Factory around Silverstone and it was stunning. Compared to the 1000 it's got significantly more usable grunt and the seat is more comfortable, I still found the pegs a little high for mile crunching.
Picking up my new SuperDuke in 2 weeks, can't bloody wait!
cracking review dave once again ,satans arse crack dust ,yeh Yorkshires bloody full of it too at the moment.
Craig Morrison It's a cheap and nasty way to 'fix' the roads
Brilliant review as always.
Thanks very much. To ride this bike is to want it
Has this bike cornering ABS?. Great review sir!
Thank you. No it's fitted with standard ABS, but I found the brakes to be more than adequate for the road, and with a pad upgrade they will be really strong (as I found on my R1)
Hey Dave, just wondering how ur SP is? Happy riding buddy!😀
Andy Crawley Hi, my MT09 SP is fantastic and I’m loving it more each time I ride it 👍
Great 👍
Hi are you saying Yamaha mt10 sp cost £ 13 699?
Without watching it through again, i cant remember, but it was around tgat price a few years ago when I released this
If someone selling one 2017 model he has done 2198 miles for £10,000 what advice would give me?
Or think is right to get new one
Great Video looking at adding one of these to my Stable, I have been looking at the Speed Triple but i can't get on with the front end Im trying to like it but I suppose its a marmite Bike, thanks for the video
They're a quality machine indeed, they just drink fuel like you have a hole in the tank. That's the deal breaker for me
So I was going to buy one of these until I discovered people are getting 100miles(160km) or even worse before running out of fuel and this is the single biggest issue with this bike. And I am not talking about touring at all....It gets significantly less mileage than my BMW S1000RR (and it’s slower).
Absolutely. Its fuel milage is terrible and what ultimately put me off too
I’m saving my money to buy one .
Which would you get first this or 765 street triple rs?
James w Mallory If I wasnt planning any long distance touring holidays, then the Street Triple I think. However, if I could only have one bike to do all things well, then the MT10, but I'm lucky to have the big Tiger Explorer for big distance, so the Street would make a perfect garage mate for it
Having tested the mt10sp and then the next day the bmw 1000r i found the yam far superior in most ways apart from the mental fuel it uses.The bmw had the worst seat ever and i remember the sales bloke telling me oh you can buy a comfort seat same as the yam but i did not find the yam seat uncomfortable.
Yes that terrible MPG was basically a deal breaker for me, but I agree that the Yam is the more engaging characterful bike to ride
That lower rad looks so exposed out in the bottom front. I would be worried about rock damage.
Me too, They should fit rad protectors at the factory if you ask me
There's a rad guard on the oil cooler at the bottom but the rad has none .if you buy one get rad and oil cooler guards ,cost my mate £700 for new rad when I fired a stone through it on my r6 before I bought one of these not the sp though
Ahhh Yamaha brakes. Don't get why they have scrimped on brakes so much. I rode one of these in 2017 with an idea to buy and absolutely loved it. Until a car pulled out while I was errrrr covering distance shall we say. Grabbed what I thought was the same handful of brakes that I would've on my 2014 zx-6rr and they weren't good! To the point I started to panic a little. Very wooden I found with not enough power for such a wicked and deceptively fast bike. I got it sorted but took a real handful and a couple of seconds of Mad Max 1 style eye bulge!! It put me off. I rode a 2018 Speed Triple this year and the Brembo brakes on that were astonishing and on a slower bike too. I also found MT-10 very top heavy when very slow speed manoeuvring and I'm not small.
I have discovered that the brakes can be improved immensely just by changing the stock pads out. I changed the pads on my 2016 R1 to a track compound (SBS RAFA) and all of a sudden it was like hitting a brick wall. They still lacked feeling and modulation, but they vastly improved the stopping power
@@VeeFour that's fair enough. I do kind of think though, with the amount of competition in the motorcycling world there's no excuse for anything, whether real or perceived, to be lacking. I love the R1 and MT-10, they sound and look incredible - but the MT-10 brakes did put me off unfortunately. Just my opinion though. That said, your blue R1 is one of the best looking off the floor bikes for sale 👌
think the mt09sp will be enough for me been told the mt10sp is very powerful!! and thirsty
The MT09 is enough for me too hence why I bought one. The 10 really really is thirsty you're right
140 mile range. Probably 50 miles when high revving.
Bring it to America Yamaha!!!!! PO today !!!!!
2HELNBAK I cannot think for the life of me why they haven't. They will sell thousands of them
1:46 oh yes worth every drop
Agreed!
It is an inline 4 ( Cross Plane ) No v 4
Did I say that it was? Remind me at what time as it's been a while since I watched this one
Crossplane Power!!
Oh yes 👍
This replaces the VMAX! The Gen 2 Max is to big and heavy, under powered for that massive motor, and very hard to work on, among other things.
I was always a big fan of the original Vmax, well it has bot my favourite engine configuration after all, but I agree, the later Max was an incongruous beast the never really found it's place. For me it occupies the same strata as the Triumph Rocket 3, just to big heavy and thirsty for any useful applications. Saying that though, the MT10 drinks like a sailor on shore leave as well
@@VeeFour Yes, Yama really blew it!!
Those tyres that come with the bike are Not proper S20 . Bridgestone tyres that are purchased after sales are far superior to the dodgy ones that are on the bike when new. Beware!!
Oh yes indeed. I found this out for myself when I bought the MT09 SP, the S20s on that where as hard as pool balls, so I swapped them out for a much more agreeable set of Pirelli Rosso 3 after 30 miles. The improvement was dramatic.
Apparently all the Japanese manufacturers put crap OE tyres on their bikes
Was right at start of video. Not you saying it
Is that your picture on the tag lol
Do you mean, did I take the pic for the thumbnail? if so then yes
long time no see
Yeah it's been a while :/
Being an American. Watching this video gave me anxiety the whole time. I keep wanting you to be on the other side of the road.
Zac Slaman Perhaps we should trial changing the side of the road we use in the UK. We could have a trial period where motorcycles ride on the right for a month, and if it works then we can swap all the cars and trucks the following month 🤔🤔😉😂
VeeFour 😂😂😂 that just might work.
You're gonna want to snap the throttle in 3rd if you get this.
It's basically a motorcycle on steroids.
There was a bit of that going on off camera. I just love how this bike delivers it's torque, it's more fun than my old V4 Tuono, and that's saying something!
Yeah man and I think It's comparable to the Superduke as well in the way that it delivers It's power. ^_^
Its got a face like WALL-E ;)
Yeah, I suppose it does, ha
They are very individual .like marmite it's a love hate thing.i love them trust me you pull up on these and people gather round more than any other bike I've owned
“This is not a 200hp beast”; no, but it’s a 160hp beast 😂
Yamaha, stainless steel fasteners, do me a favour m8.. 🤦♂️😅 If ur wanting top finish bike, then look no further than triumph....what u can see in front of you are chrome bolt caps, Japanese bikes are built to a price and the bean counters make sure of that....I'd say that kawasaki are the best out of the Japanese manufacturers at the moment.....
I'll agree with you about Triumph as I own one, but not about Yamaha (I own one of those too)
There were plenty of quality stainless fastenings on this 2018 SP, as there are on my 2018 09SP. I don't know if this is still the case in 2021 but all bikes are built to a price by bran counters, and it's naive to think otherwise. I've own numerous Yams, and without exception they've all been finished to a rust resisting high standard, unlike Kawasaki, 2 month old demo examples of which I have seen with surface oxidation developing all over their obviously low quality fastenings
maybe get facts before video ??
It wasn't a planned test ride, I was just passing the dealer and they offered me the ride.
Maybe make your own test ride vid??
Horrible looking bike. Sorry guys but whoever designed this want shooting.
Boz Ha, the looks definitly split opinion don't they. Personally I love it but it's not to everyone's taste
Great video mate, i just bought the r1 2015 but i would deffo get this!