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How do you know vaccine mitigate severe illness or death if you do not perform double blind test?
Rogan was better before.
"if you could only listen to me long enough" OMG who could listen to this word salad nonsense for that long? LMAO
"there's a way to communicate with humility the uncertainty of things" dude that's incredibly Far from what Rogan did. Or currently does. Joe IS essentially the new age preacher of prosperity gospel. He doesn't have to be. In doing so it doesn't reveal a high caliber of intelligence, and as you've said yourself lex he certainly Isint communicating Accurate information using humility. I hope the future includes lots of accurate fact checking. Ie (vaccination worked, minimum wage was a livable wage before Reagan, Reagan did single handedly kill pensions and good wages in favor of a shitty substitute and concentrated wealth at the very top contributing to the inequality we see today, there is no solid evidence after trials that show ivermectin as a good treatment to covid, ect) hopefully one of the pros to the ai revolution includes something like subtitles but instead of just subtitles it fact checks inaccurate information because lex clearly doesn't enjoy doing that to his buddies.
I agree with Harris. With people like Rogan at the wheel. Next times gonna be ugly as fuck. And hypothetically maybe it is unintentional from the guy. And he just wants to be himself and blabber about things. Unfortunately a large portion of people attached themselves to the guy and live through/by his silly podcast. And therefore next time will still be ugly as fuck.
Lex: Try empathy
Sam: No
Yes
I'm still chuckling . . .
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300k unnecessary deaths. That should inculcate empathy
Try empathy with people who don’t believe in reality nor authority.
Sam does not have all the answers but his thought process is his gift. I love his considered discussions.
And the resulting incredible syntax, accomplished manner of speaking.
Blessed are those who rely on reasons.
I’m not a big Sam Harris fan but he’s 100% correct about audience capture.
He's subject to that himself.
@@AfroGaz71 I'd say less so, because he allows some people to listen for free
@@AfroGaz71 All content creators are subject to it some degree but I don’t think that’s Sam Harris’s main affliction since he actively tries to cull his audience from time to time. I think his main problem is that he takes any shred of criticism so personally that he shuts himself off from other perspectives.
@@AfroGaz71I am chagrined about his TDS and his defense of our obviously corrupt public health institutions.
But I feel that he's being very honest about not pandering to his audience. Unfortunately, many were clamoring for the truth.
@@buckchile614Joe Rogan allows everyone to listen for free
Sam is never wrong, he thought he was once but he was mistaken.
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Yea, I still can't get past his melt down on Triggernometry.
Perfectly said.
😂😂😂
A great fucking line dude 😂
Sam is so incredibly comfortable within his own opinions that Its really not necessary for anyone else to get involved.
Wait… that sounds a bit narcissistic.
Can’t be.
@@TheOlzee narcissism is when you have strong opinions
@@gurvirsingh7964 no
He is a puppet. He is like a politician. He talks like a politician because he has ideological agenda that suits the elite.
@@funemployed468 I know, I was being sarcastic
One of the nice parts about going through the Covid thing is that it has allowed us to see people’s true colors. The inverse to that is that we have been able to see how so many amongst us really think, and it’s scary.
Yeah the GOP and conservatives in general have exposed themselves as completely worthless anti-human anchors that are holding the entire planet back by decades
and still others who will not pick a side either way and are marked by either indifference or cowardice
@@TodKopfstein you think not having an extreme, polarised perspective can only be explained by cowardice?
Yeah, being recommended to inject bleach and stick a sunlamp up our collective asses by the leader of the Free World was pretty scary
We are all apes 🦧 🦍
some of us are more competent and rational and logical than others. But we all make mistakes and we must recognize we are fallible. Show grace when warranted. Question authority when necessary. Gather the facts. Stay humble. Remember that we often don’t know what we don’t know. We apes have a talent for deceiving ourselves.
“I just think it makes you look like a douchebag most times.”
I love Lex.
This was the statement that Lex is able to say and yet still finely hold the edge without going over. I feel because it’s still coming from a place care and compassion.
Sam was talking about you. You are the guy who is CONVINCED that he has any idea what he’s talking about.
I thought sams response was pretty good
@@daveohare301 sams fanboys do
@@ernierrules5405 or you could argue how his response wasn’t a good point? Though I’m doubting you even gave it much consideration
When Sam is right, he is right. He also happens to be right, even when he is wrong.
lmao
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Sam Harris: rule 1, I'm always right. Rule 2, in case I'm wrong, refer to rule 1.
And even in both of those cases of being right, he is still wrong.
I’m reading all these comments inferring Sam is wrong. I’m also not seeing what exactly he’s wrong about.
Agree with Sam. He’s actually quite centrist in a world where people only think based on their tribe. This comment section shows that.
Good to find the one sane comment. They all calling Sam arrogant yet don’t disprove anything he said
@@Shiggystardust
Exactly. Thats what i keep looking for as well
Yeah they don’t stick for eachother at all this tribe
Amen
He’s extremely leftist when it comes to covid, the vaccine, mandates, etc. and he’s loud about it. When he was proven wrong about the vaccine’s ethics and effectiveness, he responded with what ifs and how it could have been worse. He doesn’t admit his mistakes and that is a huge one that he refuses to admit he was wrong. Instead he argues how he could have been right. He can be centrist because he thinks everything out, but everyone’s ego pulls them to one side or the other at least on certain issues. His ego (and no it’s not good will or caring) pulls him extremely left. Degrasse Tyson type of left where they will argue that morals are a social construct and get into evolution, but then say people have a moral duty to succumb to mandates. And then they’re wrong, but they still contradicted themselves about morality while not admitting they were wrong.
I get that our institutions suck right now but Sam is right. We can’t all create our own little Twitter and Google institutions and “do our own research” and then debate with each other. That’s not a reliable and safe way to live in a modern society. It’s ok to challenge the institutions but we must find a way to fix them and trust them again.
Amen to that!
"We can’t all create our own little Twitter and Google institutions and “do our own research” and then debate with each other."
Why not? and who the fuck are you to tell us not to?
@@kylebutler1101 Kyle Kyle Kyle 😔Didn’t your momma ever teach you?
@@jimmyriggs1229 My momma taught me to question everything. Your momma turned you into a slave. I pity you.
@@kylebutler1101 of course people ultimately can act as if they are experts on every topic, and curate their own news feeds and information sources to say what their guts tell them they should say. But regardless of what the right answer is, there is an objectively best way floating out there somewhere to handle a national emergency which will result in the fewest deaths.
If everyone elects to not listen to our institutions and do whatever they want, there are going to be a thousand different responses, and whatever the objectively best approach is will be impossible to implement.
So let’s say mRNA vaccines and school closures were objectively not the best way we could’ve handled it… that means not rushing the vaccine and leaning on herd immunity may have been the best way and saved the most lives… and that would only work if there was sufficient buy in from the public to make it work. If half the country stayed home anyway, herd immunity would take twice as long, and more than the minimum # of people possible would die.
So the problem here is that our institutions failed us and need to be fixed. It’s not that we don’t need institutions that we can rely on.
Sam has such a rational, middle of the road, understanding. I just wish more of us could get to the same place.
im having a hard time reconciling the colossal failure covid was in every aspect especially from the top down. we were lucky it had such a very low mortality and was not bad at all.
@@ginxxxxx My mother died from it, so it certainly hit me hard. That said, I agree with what you said, it could have been managed much better.
i distinctly remember sam refusing to even entertain a conversation with bret.
could have cleared up a lot of confusion, no?
What's crazy is Brett knows way more on this topic than Sam does. He did then, he does now. Sam can't acknowledge that. He makes Neil deGrasse Tyson seem humble.
@MikeD apart from all the times in the interview where he admits the reason he doesn't want to talk about COVID is that he doesn't know enough
@@robertblackwell8611 won't stop him from dragging Brett though
@@MikeD_ no, he doesn’t. In fact Bret knows less than the average paramedic and the things he says demonstrate that perfectly.
@@robertblackwell8611 that's not the problem, the problem is his inability to admit he was wrong, that people hev thought were wrong and were right at the time, and many were right for the right reasons. He frames Bret Weinstein as just taking positions to take positions, which is just a bald face lie. Every one of Weinstein's opinions came with long, detailed scientific reasons as to why they were what they were; I've listened to them myself. That is not how Harris talks about them though. He just refuses to admit he was wrong.
Sure, he says here "things have changed and I've changed my mind along with them," but only in the context of not admitting that he had it wrong then, and certainly not to say "yeah I brushed their opinions off, but they were right. Maybe next time I'll listen to them more." All of this is in service of maintaining the idea that even when he was wrong, he was right. He literally says that.
That doesn't even start to get into all his earlier talks and debates about how "moral relativism" is an evil and that there are always things that are right, regardless of the times and context, then to go on and defend political and journalistic corruption because it was being done to keep Trump from being reelected.
I used to be a big fan of Harris. I paid to subscribe to his podcast and everything. I disagreed with him much of the time, but I knew that he was saying what he said in good faith. Those days are LONG over, and he and good-faith reasoning and debating parted ways a while ago.
It's one of those things where it's like "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed." Out of everyone who took a sharp turn from who they were to who they are based on Covid or Trump or whatever, none have disappointed me more than Sam Harris.
Sam can never pull his ripcord and say " im wrong " ..
And the thing is he'd be forgiven and gain some respect for it. Jordan got vaxxed and admitted he rushed his decision and caved too soon and boom we move on. Sam says even if it turns out he was wrong, he's still right. Amazing.
@@3bladeninja21 Are you imbeciles still suggesting that the vaccine is "dangerous" or that people who got it "rushed their decision?" Jesus Christ, you people are lost. Time to head on over to Bret's channel and watch his 204th pod about Covid misinformation. Enjoy it, bud!
@@johnlittle3430 woah there cowboy
✋🏽😯🤚🏽.Chill baby. Drink some water. Breathe. I love you 😘
@@3bladeninja21 Why would Jordan have to apologize or admit anything for getting vaccinated? its a personal decision, he has the right to get vaxxed and doesn't have to justify it.
@@alejandromarquez3526 I never used the word apologize. He said he rushed it, in his own opinion, and in hindsight should have held off a bit. As for why he would say that, go ask him 😐????? He was just sharing his thoughts on the subject.
I love your penchant for broad perspective, Lex. Thank you!
That’s the nicest and most thought out way of calling these people grifters as Sam could possibly muster.
"In hindsight I was wrong, but I thought I was right. So at the time, I was right to think I was right."
lol
And Bret was wrong because he was right then but people didn't know and hence he was wrong. What logic is this?
@@anshathani1987 Now you're getting it!
@@anshathani1987 Weinstein hasn't been right on anything in a couple of years though lol.
@@jackeagleeye3453 sam has been? Both may be wrong but sam is very clearly not saying I was wrong inspite it being proven. So arrogant to say others are disingenuous but not introspecting on what he had been doing.
Reading the comments is a lot of fun.
Sam is exposing himself to a larger audience, beautiful.
Ikr? Finally.
This is why we shouldn't censor people. Let them expose themselves and their ideas as complete garbage. Their philosophies will be tested by the public, and found wanting.
None of Sam’s ideas are garbage. He doesn’t always get things right but he is indeed a brilliant man and should be listened to
Where is he wrong
@@stephensehrbrock5613 he was wrong about everything regarding COVID. Rather than admit that, he spends the entire video trying to explain how those who were proven right were really wrong and people like Harris actually right. Where is wrong? Every word he says in this video, including "and" and "the", is the exact opposite of the truth.
I love how Sam always nails it. He has such a great capacity to elucidate an issue.
Joe not just pulling “ripcords”, but makes actual corrections when he’s wrong. Sam, you’re just making a list of diminishing cop outs.
You don't understand. He can't pull the ripcord and admit he's just a human who makes mistakes because he's an arrogant God
I hope that one day everybody in the comment section finds somebody who loves them as much as Sam Harris loves Sam Harris.
😂😂😂
He’s right. All he does is point out things that offend you. Your religion, your inability to listen to experts, your irrational stance on elections, your brow beating of people that look different than you. I don’t agree with him on everything but some of you have gone so far down the batshit crazy road you can’t come back.
Only for one day? Well you're right. Just asking for one day is already enough!😛
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Oh, give it the fuck up, would you? We get it, he criticized your hero, Joe. Doesn't take anything away from him
Everyone is bad and wrong, but I am always right - Sam Harris
The question isn't "was I wrong" the question is did I bother to question and consider that perhaps we don't know enough yet.
Lex, great job here. Difficult convo but well done.
"The people who think I'm wrong, are wrong." - Sam Harris. Lmao
There's nothing at stake for Sam Harris. He thinks so highly of himself that he'll be there to reassure himself in the case that his ego doesn't show up.
Yeah fuck context am I right?
The question is, what consistent, effective system of justification are any of them using to discern that?
This is my wheelhouse:
This is the solution to all the miss info, not censorship ( It also happens to be the solution to ALL solvable persistent issues because they all share this foundationally):
The Problem: Our cognitive experience is of our cognitive model of reality. We directly experience reality using limited and fallible subjective physical systems of perception to process information to construct our flawed and limited subjective collection of concepts that comprise our cognitive models of objective reality. So, our model of reality is inaccurate; we can hold things that are true as false and false as true (Beliefs).
To mitigate this fallibility and better discern which beliefs are actually true (knowledge) from those that are not, we need to apply the same consistent and most effective system of justification, comprised of direct experience, credible testimony, and logic. The application of this system of
justification distinguishes our awareness of what is actually true (knowledge) from fantasy and false belief.
Most people, PHDs included, cannot articulate how words work; Words work by agreement of use to reference groups of properties in reality (A variant of L.Wiggnetstien's words work by agreement of use to reference). If you cannot articulate (refer to) it verbally or physically, you are unaware of it [you do not know it]).
We use words to refer to properties to get others to focus on them with us so we can figure shit out. If we are not using words to make the same references, we literally are not speaking the same language and not focusing on the same properties. It is not the word used that is important; that is arbitrary. It is if the properties we are referring to are true that is important. Do they exist in reality? You see this with the words around the gender issue, and in fact, this is happening with every persistent issue on the planet. Most, even PHDs, cannot articulate how words work or what logic actually is (an objective system of reason that discerns causal and correlative relationships in reality). So, they can't even articulate how words work and fail, along with the rest, to recognize it and therefore fail to properly align cognitive models.
Apply that language issue to what system of justification people use to discern knowledge from belief. The masses cannot purposefully articulate what properties comprise this system’s basics, which means they are unaware of it. Consequently, they cannot apply it to mitigate their fallibility in discerning what is actually true (knowledge) from false belief. Not only do they hold different things to be true, but what they hold to be true is less likely to be actually true (knowledge), especially concerning claims made about what lies outside the limits of their direct experience. Therefore, the appeal to their cognitive experience, alone, that is based on what they believe (“Their truth”), is not inherently evidence of what is actually true (knowledge of reality) if there is an objective truth that is discernable using the aforementioned system of justification that disproves it.
When people do not hold the same things to be true, that is what it means to be in conflict.
Furthermore, due to technology’s exponential increase in the amount of information coming from outside their direct experience (what Sam is worried about), along with the fact that they evolved to use fallible physical systems of perceptions to process information from their limited reference frame of direct experience of the present, coupled with the fact that they are not mitigating it by applying the same system of justification to align beliefs and arrive at knowledge together, the conflict will inherently increase until all institutions fail that are dependant on large scale social cohesion.
This will also prevent us from agreeing on if something is an existential threat and prevent us from mitigating it because of our inability to agree (climate change, anyone? Pandemic, anyone?) This is why Sam is worried about the next one. The solution: is not to censor this increased flow of information, empowering those that would misuse it; it is to combine into one subject the subjects of Philosophy of language and logic into epistemology and put it in all schools every semester for 12 years just like core subjects like math. Because all subjects, including all core subjects, are inherently subordinate to the subjects of epistemology, language, and logic.
THESE ARE THE CORE OF CORE SUBJECTS. We should teach everyone how words work, then use them to discern the properties that comprise the most consistent, effective system of justification to discern knowledge from false belief. It will better empower them to directly discern credible claims from non-credible claims without relying on being told who is credible by the non-credible. Consequently, it will give the masses the tools to better discern knowledge and disempower and disincentivize the forwarding of false (miss) information.
Lex should have me on. I am nobody... but this is my thing. It is the foundation of all conversations and conflicts.
Infuriating
@@missykins3193 Cry about it.
Sam's intelligence often weakens when cross-referenced with wisdom. When he's right, he's right. But when he's wrong, he typifies arrogance.
A Doctor from 2015 is thawed out of the ice and asked covid questions:
Doc, should I wear a mask over my face all day long to prevent a virus?
- No, that's not how those masks work and unless you change them many times a day it is unsanitary and can make you sick.
Doc, should I isolate myself at home for a year to prevent catching a virus?
- No, doing that would hurt your immune system and make it more likely to get sick eventually
Doc, should I take an untested vaccine?
- No, only people who are at high risk should take experimental treatments
great observation! well said.
lol
Precisely said what I was going to say. I have been a huge follower and still I'm of Waking Up but I have lost all the interest in his podcast and the topic he used to cover. He now invites only those who resonate with his own thoughts, no opposition so he's basically fueling what he already believes.
What has he been wrong about though?
It's a wonderful thing to be able to make a choice of would you rather be right or be happy. You can't have both at once. Choose wisely.
For an allegedly intelligent bloke, Sam seems to have missed the point that Brett ( and Heather) aren’t still banging on about covid, they are actually “banging on” about the vaccines and their harms and the lack of changes in policy surrounding them
“Even if Brett turned out to be right, he had no right to question what he was questioning then.” … seriously?
Its called epistemology.
Yea because Bret didn't have any hard data and notice that statement doesn't say Bret was right.
@@Sidiciousify if you want to up your golf game do you work with a professional golf player or a basketball player?
"EVEN if" meaning Bret was never right.
I wonder if Sam Harris has ever admitted to being wrong about anything in his life?
No, but trust him he says he will when it happens.
He is a Hollywood kid living off the golden girls.. He is closer to a Kardashian than an intellectual, so I doubt it
Yes: on Islam he changed his tune after being persuaded by maajid nawaz. He said he was wrong about the issue where Apple did not want to cooperate with the FBI hacking into the iPhone. He has been persuaded by the dangers of AI, he admitted he was embarrassed by his own comment of “welcoming adults into the room” when Biden and Kamala were instantiated. He also felt he was wrong about the assassination of Al awlaki. I’m sure there’s more but I remember these as a long time listener. People have certain ideas about Harris, but very often I can tell that they simply haven’t listened to him much.
I appreciate well reasoned gents like Sam and Lex hashin it out.
Sam used to be conceited but now he’s absolutely perfect
Best comment.
I love how arrogance triggers the right to no end. It must grate the empty space where the elitist gene should be
@@buckchile614 top tier burn. Similar thought: Those who toss around the "snowflake", implying panic attacks, are most often flying off the handle. Pick a subject like guns they are close to, and make some popcorn. They will go road rage, never seeing the irony. Who's emotional now, cupcake? RAWRRR!!! smh.
Said a fucking tool lmao
Trump is living rent free in this guys head.. I’m not a fan of Trump, but this guy is the epitome of TDS..he references Trump as the source of the problem in each of the shorts I’ve watched from this podcast so far 😂
Sam: I'm not mad at Joe because he's so much dumber than me.
Dont mistake intelligence from being dumb as a door. I have met plenty people who are clearly intelligent, but somehow are still dumber then most people. And Sam is clearly sharp as pencil, but his is so dumb that it is painful to listen to him. Or maybe he just a full blown sociopath and narcissist who is in love with himself and can do no wrong. I can smell that sort of people a mile away, and Sam reeks of it.
Yeah, and he's acting like Joe can just get out of trouble by his saying he's just a comedian, or a moron. Well Sam could also use some humour or humility as well, but he has to act like he's so knowledgable about all.
@@yoyoma17 Which is completely true. Rogan is a meathead who has uttered some of the most stupid shit ever heard on a podcast ( have you heard his take on US history and democracy?). Check the video where Bill Burr tells Rogan to stfu when he wants to bring the "masks" issue.
Or that he doesn't want to burn that bridge because being on Rogan will boost his subscribers and donations.
Nailed it
I just don’t think he could be more wrong about Bret and Heather. They were my life line during COVID because they were asking the same questions I was asking, bringing in alternative viewpoints, looking over data, and trying to explain it in a digestible way, and they admit their mistakes. I have a lot of trust in them for that very reason. No excuses, we got it wrong, we’re sorry. Although, they haven’t really had to apologize because so far they’ve been pretty spot on.
In the end my husband still got vaccinated, I was partially but decided against the second after I had terrible inflammation in my arm for months, and I did not vaccinate my kids because they were in the sweet spot for heart issues. I made those decisions because I was well informed about all of the arguments for and against vaccines. My “expert” pediatrician on the other hand, told me my 15 year old son would die if I didn’t get him vaccinated. I asked him how many healthy 15 year olds had died from COVID. He said he didn’t know. But he was confident that it was enough for him to try to scare the sh&t of me to get my son the shot. Ummm No.
If “experts” want trust they must earn it just like Bret and Heather have by doing the above.
The Bret vs. Sm debate ends at this: Bret got many things wrong at the beginning of covid: he was a big lockdown supporter, thought we could eradicate it early and was a huge proponent of masking, even before the CDC started recommending it. He then changed his position on both those things as he learned he was wrong and apologized for getting them wrong. The important thing is that he changed his opinions when he got new information. Sam, on the other hand, developed his narrative early in the pandemic and never waivered from it at all. He just ignores any new evidence that's contrary to his original narrative. So his opinions on covid haven't changed at all. If a person still has the same opinions related to covid after 3 years, they are not to be trusted, at all. Either they're intentionally lying, or biased and desperate to not admit they were wrong because of the backlash so they ignore any information that goes against their opinions. Bret talked about this in one of this podcasts. He basically said it's very difficult and uncomfortable to admit you are wrong to your audience. But, that discomfort is temporary and you'll regain their trust fairly quickly. However, if you don't admit when you got something wrong, your audience will eventually become aware of the dishonesty and you'll lose them entirely. Sam Harris seems afraid to admit defeat with his covid narrative for fear of losing his entire audience. He simply refuses to pull off the band-aid, and he's dug in so deep now, there is no getting out of it.
Bret Weinstein 100% caused people to die during covid with his bullshit
@@trevorpullen3199 that was perfect. You nailed it. Well said. 👏👏👏
'Sometimes circumstances warrant impatience', considering the result of that I think it's fair to say that impatience in this circumstance created hesitancy and conspiracy.
Go get a booster jab Sam
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Extremely high IQ comment
Credit to Lex for almost directly challenging a guest by sort of implying that Sam himself may be subject to audience capture.
How so though? He legit is a guy who criticizes both sides. He was actually extremely nuanced during the pandemic as well.
I think Sams criticisms here are on point. So many people during the pandemic only saw one side of the landscape and monetized it to the point they can’t leave their lane.
@@noorkidwai looking through the top comments, I can’t believe how stubborn and one-sided Sam’s detractors can be. It’s as if they didn’t listen at all to what he said. They just have it in their minds that Sam Harris is pro-vaccine and anti-Trump, therefore he is bad and shouldn’t be listened to. If they would put their prejudices aside for a few minutes, they would see that he was pretty much spot on with everything he said here. That’s especially true regarding Weinstein and his descent into covid madness.
He gets rinsed by half his audience on many big issues. He is someone completely insulated from capture
@@noorkidwai we’re about to do Biden Vs. Trump again. The least he can do is admit that the credibility of all our institutions is already completely compromised and “expertise” really doesn’t mean much to anyone anymore.
@@noorkidwai he did that. He denied children weren't affected by covid in the same way as adults in this very clip.
Use your delusion, buddy.
This is the personification of arguing with your cat about whether or not they’ve eaten.
Wow Imagine Sam and Neil having a conversation together.
Neil has been on sam’s podcast a couple of times. They disagreed a bit on AI
They've not just had podcasts together, they've been on stage together...many times heh.
Did you have a particular conversation in mind?
@@zacharyshort384 it was more that they both think they are the smartest men alive and would constantly talk over each other and would never admit they wrong about anything...lol.
@@bh.76 Well, in that case, you're demonstrably wrong. Ironic, you apparently know so much about both of them but were ignorant of their many appearances together over many years. It's almost as if you don't actually know what you're talking... but I get the impression you would never admit that ;)
@@zacharyshort384 bahahahaha I know nothing mate. But I will always admit when I'm wrong and I'll always listen to others opinions without talking over them. Not sure why your so triggered over this. 🤔
I think if the answer to “do you feel pressure?” Is as long winded and as nuanced as his was, the answer is yes.
His answer was "no" after that he just explained why the question isn't valuable. He never gave a long winded answer, he was just answering two questions.
He had just finished giving examples of when he felt pressured.
Sam lives in a universe where he's always right, the moment he's wrong the universe splits in two and he continues to live in the universe he keeps getting things right
True. Sam Harris is the Intellectual Dark Web’s “atheist Jesus”. Born to the lady who created Golden Girls, the guy’s had a silver spoon in his mouth his whole life. Why is he the “voice of reason”?
100%
And every opinion no matter the topic ends up referencing Trump
Yuuup
I literally don’t understand these comments. Clearly people haven’t listened to Sam.
“Monetizing half of the problem”, very accurate!
There is something missing in Sam probably allowed him to focus and seem so smart for so long but really something is dead [NPC] deep inside of him... logic built on limited data
So even when Sam was wrong, he was right? And the people who were right in their views and were wrong according to the popular belief, so they were/still are wrong. Got it!
He said at that time he was right because the narrative at that time agreed with his beliefs. Just like a broken clock is right 2 times a day
I don't think you got anything at all.
"I made the best decisions I could with the information we had available at the time" is what he should have said to be more clear for people that can't make that leap on their own...
@@OldManShoutsAtClouds "I made the best decisions I could with the information we had available at the time" Would also be wrong because it required cherry picking of data and ignoring information that, while suppressed by the mainstream, was still very easy to find if you have a few spare minutes of free time.
@@tomatom9666 two words that most of you need to learn "trustworthy sources". I don't care what a chiropractor in Turkey thinks about RMNA vaccines.
Sam’s first sentence: the situation was so muddy.
Sam’s second sentence: the answer was so clear.
Why can’t Sam accept that in a muddy situation more than one person’s interpretation can be equally rational.
I think we’d all be happy to listen to Sam’s views on whatever matters but because he tends to lack balance, humility and willingness for open discussion, it makes it difficult for us to trust him. I dare say he’d fail our Smell Test.
He lacks humility. He’s always right. His ego is masssive. He claims Joe can pull the rip cord but he can’t. That’s his mental gymnastics to justify his lack of humility and how he positions himself as always being right. He has issues.
And what about his point that half the problem was ignored because of how certain people had monetised their audience??? He wasn’t wrong about this and applies specifically to Peterson who basically refused to criticise trump till after he was out of office or when he made a criticism of kavvanagh then retracted his statement. Why? Because all these people are capitalist first.
Sam passes the sniff test the others don’t
@@Shiggystardust what was wrong with Kavanaugh?
I actually think he CAN, and have heard it from him many times. The problem is that he can't acknowledge that Trump broke his brain, and more importantly, that he KNEW it.
He's ALWAYS struggled with the fact that he doesn't WANT to be beholden to audience capture, but he knows he is. To make it worse, he has opinions that will upset half his audience on some issues, the other half on others. He doesn't do ads, claiming that he doesn't want to be constrained. Ironically, he already was, and the stress of recent cultural issues has caused him to engage in some pathological defense mechanisms
My gut said "no me gusta"
“Even if Brett is right, he is still wrong for being right.”
-Sam Harris
He was an idiot for this take...horrible logic.
Sam: Yeah, Bret was right before everyone else, therefore Bret was wrong
I didn't hear that at all
Anyone who cannot admit to being wrong cannot be trusted on anything.
I’m glad you think Donald trump can’t be trusted and will be voting for desantis
@@Shiggystardust I have never supported Trump for various reasons.
I am not sure about DeSantis but at least he is a competent Governor.
My preferred candidate right now would be Lt Col Tulsi Gabbard. I believe her to be exceptionally competent, brave and patriotic.
@@DaWozzMan tulsi would be good if she ever won the nomination but that’s going to be very hard.
Sam: We were playing football, and we were up 1-0 back at the time.
Lex: but it ended 1-5 to the other team!
Sam: yes but at the time we were 1-0.
Lex: but you lost eventually, and that what matters.
Sam: but back then my team thought we were winning 1-0.
😅
This point exactly spot on. We were on the correct path but we fell off a cliff and got hurt but but they told us this was the right path cause they are evil pricks
The fact that you don't understand his point is amazing
@@MrVagif1 kids died from this group think. The whole groups immune to covid and we give them a shot that gave me anaphylactic shock.
No shot > Shot
@@MrVagif1 what
@@Selendeki so what are you saying? From what I understood, his point is that (I'll take the lableak as an example) if you think covid was a lableak having no evidence for that claim, and then it turns out to be true it doesn't mean your rational was good from the get go. Just because you happened to guess right does not mean that thought process is any good.
I've always thought that Joe's podcast should have a disclaimer explaining the podcast is mainly for entertainment purposes. Like Dr Drew after dark.
my favorite part about the vaccine was waiting around for ten minutes to see if i go into anaphylactic shock. 😀
I feel like his whole argument comes out to “I’m not wrong and even if I get proven wrong at the time before the data came out I was right so therefore I’m not wrong”
Science is the attempt to make the best possible guess based on objective information. At Point A in time the available information is best summarized as Version A. That is the right answer at that point in time.
Later new information may appear and the VA answer becomes wrong in part or whole. Sam may well have been right at the time but with hindsight wrong.
The continents were fixed in place until data found tectonic plate movement. Early version right until disproven.
wrong about what
@@bobwallace9753 agreed. I think legitimately people just can't understand what he's saying apparently. It's pretty straightforward but people seem to think he's doing a cover up. I don't get it.
@@bobwallace9753 so when you were lied to on purpose about the lab leak you were right but the people that knew they were being lied to were wrong? Lmao you and Sam should be in the Olympics with your mental gymnastics
@@brycepurser9060
No one lied to me. At least no one whose statements carry any weight ford me. Obviously I ignored lying idiots like Trump.
Some people claimed that C19 escaped from the lab. That would have been a lie because it was not supported by data.
Some people claimed that C19 entered via the wet market. That would have been a lie because it was not supported by data.
Had someone said that In Their Opinion C19 came from either the lab or market that would not have been a lie. They were not stating an unsupported fact.
It feels to me as if you have a poor handle on logic.
I give Sam credit for showing how he really feels and let the audience decide. My decision very disappointed
Mine is very sad 😢
I am absolutely flabbergasted. I have no idea Sam Harris was a blithering idiot. But he really is.
It's because he's not saying the things that you want him to say. That's like being disappointed in hearing someone saying the earth is round, in the 15th century. You want your truth to be acknowledged, but reality disagree with you.
Sam is just a messenger, and a lot of people here are shooting the messenger. And that's just sad.
@@backpain100 No it is not his message it's the ability to admit when you are wrong. Listen to what Lex asked him, "people look to you to be reasonable and guide them through a tough subject." He failed.
@@user-kc5ec1lr1m Good, cry more trash
He’s right. When Covid first broke out in 2020, I had an extremely healthy friend (a former NFL player) who I worked with die within a month of getting it. I had another friend, a fitness expert, almost die a couple weeks later. It was insane.
My best friends mom was a nurse she caught COVID
The doctors pumped her full of antibiotics and whatever else
Wrecked her kidneys she refused further treatment knowing she had zero chance
Hospital recorded her a COVID death when she died from antibiotics
That's just one case
@@stefanbas6181Wait this is clearly satire right?
Nah
I'm obese, not morbidly. But obese. Got covid on e in 2020 and twice in 2022. Not vaxxed. Here I am, did all my exams. Nothing.
Sam Harris is someone who can move from one field of science to another. He just wants everyone to be considerate enough to allow the heroes like big pharma to dictate when it's appropriate time to give up all your rights! Cause it's not about money it's about the good of mankind! So don't be difficult.
Sam Harris can go blow himself...
I just can't fathom how after all we now know about COVID he still defends all the measures we took and just won't ever give an inch when talking about Brett Weinstein
because unfortunately he's a cerebral narcissist.
Uncle Sam is undefeated, undisputed, never lost a debate in his life! 😂
He can't let Lex get close.
Sam is the Dillon Danis of the intellectual world.
Is Uncle Sam the brother of Uncle Chael?
@@Vesemir668 10/10 comment
Trump and Sam Harris are similar in that regard, they’re both “undefeated, undisputed, champions” in their imaginations.
Sam makes no mistakes.
Even if it turns out he was wrong, he's still right. Legend
Ever... even once... ever
@@3bladeninja21 Something can be the right thing to do at that time but turns out wrong later.
This is such a great clip 🤣
Breaking the clips into chapters, nice
His ability to shift from explaining his wrong positions to positions he was right on is incredible. Not healthy but incredible.
Your ability to not articulate his wrong or right positions is incredible.
@@trancient You are the reason why I said incredible. The one that sticks out to me is at the end. He basically said “we needed experts we could trust.” That is a correct position. He then start to say how not all experts should be trusted (also a correct position,” but immediately shifts to trump and how he corrupted them. Then how he is against woke. Also not bad positions. But did you notice where he doesn’t say he was wrong for blindly trusting the experts (wrong position). His position through out this entire clip was no one should be talking about it who is not an expert. He is not wrong for not getting involved. He is not wrong for questioning the guest who came on other shows. He is wrong for not questioning the authority on it. Or thinking it was wrong to.
@@PC8905 blindly trusting experts for what. He literally goes over everything from the vaccine to lockdowns to the lab leak in this episode. He actually admits on the lab leak he’s wrong.
Who should we listen to for the vaccine? Especially since hundreds of thousands died needlessly because they were unvaccinated
@@PC8905 I think you're confused. It depends on what kind of expert we're talking about. For example, Bret Weinstein is an expert in evolutionary biology. But he's not an expert in immunology or medicine. One shouldn't turn to Bret Weinstein (and i actually like the guy) for his opinion on the vaccine. THAT'S what Sam is saying.
@@backpain100 right you should definitely be skeptical of Bret talking about it. Never said you shouldn’t. You should maintain a healthy level of skepticism through the entire process. The less credentialed the more skeptical.
However, credentials don’t always have the best answer. So you can’t just blindly take their word. Especially when their work is going through filters in the media. It doesn’t become their work. Less point was Sam has an ability to talk to people greater than that of the experts ability. He could have done a better job of communicating experts opinions than perhaps the way people were receiving the information.
So basically Sam is trying to tell us that he can't admit he was wrong because unlike Joe Rogan who is simply a stand up comic he is too brilliant to be wrong.
No, if sam had so wildly different (sometimes conflicting) ideas everytime he does a podcast, he can't do the "well guys, I might have been wrong about this thing but I'm just a comedian teehee" thing that Joe does when he gets criticized
This is correct
@@wilsonsanabia4259 yeah, he just doubles down. Like he did in this clip.
Sorta. But rogan gets things wrong all the time and no one really cares. When sam misfires, the hate piles on. There is definitely a difference between being a comedian with a podcast and a neuroscientist with a podcast.
Listen to what Sam says ffs!!! What are you all idiots?!?!?! He clearly explains his position throughout the whole talk. He was not wrong about anything, given the information at hand. And now with the information at hand, he was STILL not wrong. I can only believe comments like yours have an agenda behind them and are from fake accounts, because (real) people can't be this ignorant...?? Som att hälla vatten på en gås...
Smart people can go wayyyy downy the rabbit hole. But picking the wrong one is a hellish place for them.
is sam harris just the philosopher version of kanye west?
"Sam Harris: voice of reason"
- Lex Fridman: underrated comedian
😂😂😂😂😂
you for sure think trump is the beacon of good and truth.
@@mattsbees3427 You think things are better now with Biden and Harris running the show?
@@mattsbees3427 you for sure have TDS.
Nobody even mentioned Trump, but he lives rent-free in your head.
@@Exception1I'm sure Sam would appreciate the compliment, but he really has nothing to do with Joe Biden
San Harris is a caricature of Sam Harris.
Ham Sarris
That seems to be the case if it after that one interview for sure . . .
Decisions made with conviction and based on the best information available are not wrong, they are simply subject to the limitations of time and knowledge
And that's why the sun rotates around the earth
Do you remember back when Joe was on TH-cam and he did an interview with a “financial dominatrix”? That was pretty cool.
This man has believed his own hype more than anyone I’ve seen a long time.
And that's the sort of person you would call a sociopath and a narcissist.
@@sprocket5526who Trump?
@@TyroneBiggums789 what do you think?
Lost all respect with Sam. He’s such selfish arrogant person. The data was out there he just didn’t care to learn it. That’s where he screwed up
100% - the facts has not changed...as he claims
What he’s saying is - Yes the data was out there but it didn’t make it fact -- it’s very basic but I can see how people can complicate this -- 2 things can be true at the same time
@@60westpro it’s not just about who’s right or who’s wrong, it’s shaming the people who had the other data. If he said I probably should of been more open minded and listened to the other side more, I wouldn’t have a problem. Instead he is just trying to save face.
@@60westpro the data was out there 40 years ago, they were going against established data, thats why peeops had their ears up
@@benfoy9054 I agree it’s the type of discourse we have that makes this shit way more toxic - too many dumb morherfuckers who frustrate and make it hard to have real discussions
There really is nothing more scary and more destructive then a man who is never wrong
Sam Harris is scary? lol
@@quamb People who act out of supreme arrogance or fear are indeed terrifying to live with. Living with the rest of earth while they were shitting themselves + pushing into full out dystopia the past 3 years was not my personal cup of tea.
Than a man who thinks he is never wrong*
Do you understand Sam’s point in this video?? About how Brett was still wrong because at the time he didn’t have evidence for his claims ??
@@craigdaurizio686 hundreds of thousands of people died... it was a pandemic... wasn't anyones cup of tea. What's your point?
Did guy just say “what I said back then was wrong, but we didn’t know for sure it was wrong. So technically I wasn’t wrong”
Sam's problem is he thinks he's better than you or me.
It doesn't matter if he's wrong because he's smart, so he's better than us.
I don't think he said that but ok
I think that's more your problem than Sam's.
It's not his fault it's true.
Perhaps you have a self esteem issue that needs looking into
“If I had teenage boys I would be concerned” but I don’t so fuk everyone and let me trust these criminal pharm companies
Sam Harris: was I wrong?…
Yes.
Like Kanye thinking he is right and infallible, Sam doesn’t see how he is/was doing the same thing. Ego is not your amigo Sam, let’s move on
"Ego is not your amigo" LMFAO
Momma always told me stay away from people that can't keep long term friendships.
She also said cigarettes never hurt anybody.
I mean you can't always be right. Well, Sam can.
Lex, low key calling Sam a douchebag 😂
He's employing the frat boy bro bestie logic
Just proves Sam's point. Instead of pointing out what he was wrong about he just name calls and ad-homs in a sly passive aggressive way.
@@taeeererer yea it's reasons like this why it's hard to take Lex seriously. When destiny was on and just mentioned Rogan in a very slightly critical way Lex said "careful". It's like dude not everyone worships at the feet of Rogan and needs Rogan's audience like Lex does. Biased ecosystems of grifter podcasters who get that personal to me appear pathetic and Lex also looks like a douchebag calling names, it goes both ways and he acts like it doesn't. If he wasn't like this I would promote him more.
i'm happy for these people that they have sam around to tell them they're acting badly.
It’s important to have people around you that hold you to account. Either that or you end up with yes men like Brendan Schaub that agree with everything you say and instantly change every opinion to agree with you. That’s never a healthy friendship group to surround yourself with.
‘I disagree. I think it just makes you look like a douchebag most of the time’.
Lex to Sam Harris, 2023
Most EPIC line of this clip!!🤣
@@samh8388 If you want to propagandize, it is. He used the royal "you." He wasn't calling Sam a douchebag.
@@HarryD738 woooooooooooooshhhhhhh
@@HarryD738 he was definitely letting Sam know he was inside of that “you.” Sam is just to arrogant to realize it.
@@jryanw1159 That just proves Sam's point. Lex is too braindead to come up with a counter argument using logic so instead he resorts to insults and ad hominems.
I’m with Sam on most issues. I don’t understand how people are unable to have independent thoughts about different situations. It’s like 90% of people are just npc’s chosing a side and sticking with it no matter what, and they can’t fit into their heads the existence of more than just two sides.
Remarkable to totally agree with a comment so I have to respond. I've been wondering about this for all of my adult life. The lack of independent thinking, rationality, objectivity and nuance. I used to call folks robots way before 'npc' became the norm. But it's the same thing, an inexplicable difference in awareness. I can't explain the huge discrepancy and vast majority, but it must have a reason.
It's an odd thing. It was like a light switch just flipped and I realized so many people are uncapable of forming their own thoughts, feelings or opinions. Very odd.
Because the second anyone disagree with your opinion you all of sudden cannot agree with them on anything. Everything Sam said on here was correct lol. Idk why people are getting so bent up about it. Everyone believed conspiracy theorists and not actual professionals around the globe. And they are saying Sam was in the wrong for believing the qualified ones?
It’s not about disregarding the issues on both sides. It’s not audience capture. Joe wasn’t intentionally pandering to any one side. He identifying a very problematic issue, and passionately spoke out against it. Sam chose to dismiss credible voices and evidence. It was clear what was going on, and Sam chose to look the other way. Joe did not. Even now, Sam avoids personal responsibility for his views at all costs. He’s incapable of admitting that his take was flawed. Get humble Sam.
I hope Sam can figure out how to develop and integrate wisdom into his vast intelligence. I truly do.
Why is he intelligent, other than his pseudo-intelectual persona?
That's a great way to say it LOL, yes...
@@scifiwifi117 It's a great way of saying literally nothing.
He can't. You have to be able to step outside yourself and see it from a neutral place that isn't attached to an outcome you've made a career of chirping about
@@johnlittle3430 how would you say it?
Brett can't do 100 videos on covid but Sam can talk about Trump ad nauseum
Almost like Harris can criticize Brett just as you're criticizing him now. What a world am I right?
@@duewest9801 yeah, and you can deflect to protect your beloved.
@S3NTRY pls learn what deflection is so you can stop misusing the word =)
@@duewest9801 deflection
dĭ-flĕk′shən
Noun
*Deviation or a specified amount of deviation.*
Example: you not addressing OP, but doing a "whataboutism" to deviate away from attacking the point directly. Deflection.
oh don't worry, I used it correctly.
Your posts are the best. So many empty hubristic assertions. But you're a dolt.
Daddy SH would be proud.
I don't know that I've ever seen someone double down on the fallacy of appealing to authority harder than I watched Sam do in this interview.
Historically, I like Sam...I've gotten a lot of entertainment and food for thought out of his content.
...but this interview was REALLY hard to listen to...and even as patient as Lex is...you could see he was getting pretty frustrated with Sam.
Sam is right about people all following 50% of the problem over the last 5 years. Audience capture is a problem
“I am compassionate of people who disagree with me because they are so stupid.”
"people dumber than me should not be allowed to air their opinions." -Sam Harris
xD
@@scroopynooperz9051 He's 100% correct. So based
During meditation 🧘♀️ at an ultra luxury resort, Sam occasionally has a terrible thought that he might be wrong... following Buddhist teachings he pushes them all away and baths in the supreme tranquility of always being right.
That's exactly what happened. So sad, and creepy even.
@@user-kc5ec1lr1m Sure it is buddy hahaha. Strange how you people don't see the irony in your words. Instead of addressing what he says and proving him wrong, you resort to this worthless meaningless name-calling and ad hominems because you're intellectually unfit to debunk what he says using logic.
😂
Lol
We totally knew how negligible the effect of the COVID vaccines on children were at the time...and how low of a risk COVID posed to children.
“Sorry guys, we just didn’t know”. But they did know.
A perfect example of the “Intellect” getting in the way of wisdom.
Sam is smart but dense
Dense in what way?
@@themetanarrative8964 Dont mistake intelligence from being dumb as a door. I have met plenty people who are clearly intelligent, but somehow are still dumber then most people. And Sam is clearly sharp as pencil, but his is so dumb that it is painful to listen to him. Or maybe he just a full blown sociopath and narcissist who is in love with himself and can do no wrong. I can smell that sort of people a mile away, and Sam reeks of it.
Have spent many many hours over the years listening to Sam , he's now excruciating.
Likewise.
How pathetic. Look in the mirror, my friend. Sam isn't the one who has changed. Let me guess: you've spent countless hours defending absurd conspiracy theories and defending Trump online. What's that? I'm right! Gee, what a shocker.
Does it seem like he's now corporatized or something? As if he's got vested interests in the things he's speaking about, or something along those lines.
I WAS a huge fan. But he needs to capitulate.
@@LongSchlongMcBong "People apologize for making a mistake, but will always defend a lie"
By his logic, no innocent person should be released from prison. At the time of their conviction, all signs pointed to their guilt. Just because other information existed that opposes the original conclusion, doesn't mean the original conclusion is wrong. He's leaving out the fact that an entire group of people have a vested interest in pursuing a particular agenda.
There was two agendas being pushed which is kind of his point of the far left and far right. And how both sides will never concede that they both have agendas they are pushing. People of the right will believe trump isn’t pushing an agenda and people of the left won’t believe the left is. The fact is during covid trumpets and republicans did not have any actual tangible evidence that out weighed evidence of vaccines working. There wasn’t any, every notable medical professional across the globe not just the us all had the same conclusions. There was no mass deaths and have been no mass deaths due to vaccines or mass heart issues like they believed and tried to spread. So as much as people want to get on the left for pushing vaccines the right wasn’t correct either and they were pushing a narrative along with it. To not acknowledge that is the issue. Thats basically Sam’s entire point.
This one was infuriating. Absolutely infuriating. What an absolutely monstrous bit of slandering of Bret and Heather. He’s going round and round and elucidating his own shoddy reasoning and his own fear as a motivator and projecting it so intensely onto Bret because Bret is the one that was in a much better “lane” to assess the situation and he was saying all the things Sam didn’t want to be true and did not want to hear. It’s personal for him with Bret. He doesn’t use the same tone or come so personally with anyone else in that group of former friends. This is shameful behaviour. Absolutely outrageous. I’m irate on Bret and Heather’s behalf. His only argument is that he alone knows who the valid voices are and that’s that. Bret and Heather are evolutionary biologists. It’s a natural point of conversation for them. And they didn’t spend 100 episodes talking about just covid. He clearly never listened to the podcasts in full. Holy smokes …. Every time I think I may have found a way to give him some benefit of the doubt, he just goes and demonstrates just how absolutely crazy he’s gone since Trump. I really hope Bret takes the gloves off because Sam no longer deserves any amount of leeway for his past contributions in the intellectual space. Wow. I’ve just been slightly amused at his publicly setting himself on fire up to this point but this was really mean and small and petty and gross.
Relax, don’t cry
I don't know how to articulate this... But the weight of Ye's ego feels hella light compared to my boy here lol.
Ben Stiller became articulate.
What an insult to Ben.
I used to listen to hours and hours of Sam… I still have a soft spot for him. But he has his faults. At times he seems petty in his disagreements. He did get TDS and still has it.
The TDS is what got me to tune out to Sam.
Much much much love for Sam. Hitch and him opened my mind up to so many things. He isn’t a bad guy and I wish him well.
Whats TDS?
@@Dawho99trump derangement syndrome
Lex: are you taking notes? I hope so.
So much humility 😂
lmao
Zero
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Yes you were wrong Sam Harris. This clip could have been 2 minutes long. Just say the truth dude.
Read:
Dancing naked in the mind field - Kary Mullis (Nobel laureate for PCR),
Chapter: What happened to scientific method
What was wrong about Brett’s COVID positions?