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If you can't land an inside leg kick, you aren't landing that groin kick. If you can't land a simple jab to the face, you aren't eye poking anyone. If you try to eye gouge in someone's guard, that person will gladly breaking your fingers. If you want to eye gouge effectively, you better be in dominant position (mount or knee on belly). Then you know... gouge away, but jiu-jitsu takes you 90% of the way there.
There is a video of Bas Rutten talking about ‘street karate’. Someone said if you put me in a rear naked choke I would claw your eyes out. He said okay let’s try. You try to claw my eyes out and I will break your neck once I feel your fingers near my eyes.
Jeff Bonnell There’s something called small join manipulation. If you don’t know how to escape a chokehold in a Street fight scenario, just grab a finger of the arm wrapped around you and pull. Just watch Ramsey Dewey testing out the women’s self defense techniques and putting it through real resistance.
Great vid... and seriously, people who say "BJJ is useless in a group fight situation!" have a warped sense of reality. I have a friend who is a 200 pound amateur mma fighter, bjj blue belt, and had been boxing all his life. He had some experience street fighting as well. One time, he and his mate were attacked by a gang of 5+ people. His friend was knocked out cold early and he only had time to line up and drop one attacker before he was hit from his blindside and on his ass. He then proceeded to fight as best as he could off his back and stay mobile whilst the gang proceeded to kick, stomp and punch until they ran off. He had to go to hospital for stitches and bruises... but knowing how to shrimp, butt scoot, upkick and try technical standups definitely saved his bacon. Boxing is great and works, but when shit really hits the fan, you're gonna wish you knew some bjj
Not only that, you learn some stand up grappling stuff in BJJ that will help you escape from the dreaded "multi-opponent situation" that we hear so much about on the Internet. (Incidentally, most fights in the real world are one versus one; sorry to disappoint the BJJ haters. But even if that weren't the case, you still have to learn how to fight on the ground because the other guy might take you there--and then what?)
Yep! I'm no street fighting expert, but the vast majority of altercations I have been in during my life have been legit one on one situations. People who hate on bjj and cite the "group situations" are just as biased as Gracie-boys who say "Statistically, 99% percent of all street fights end up on the ground!" Blanket statements in real life, including for self-defence contexts, are seldom accurate.
man i can tell you that in the street its where all of the 1vsX situations happen if u dont have any frriends to back u up... Ive had my alercations and im only 18, 2 times I was jumped by +5 guys and in all other situations I get fcked and niggas own my ass is when im outnumbered which happens plenty
BJJ is definitely good to know how to fight off your back in the worst-case scenario, but the argument usually is that your strategy against multiple people should be to avoid the ground at all costs, which is correct. Even taking people down and controlling on top should be avoided if the fight isn't one-on-one.
@@profd65 lol it honestly depends on where you live for the most part. Where I live nobody fights one on one anymore everyone is always with at least one other person
mickor at least 2 or 3 competitions will deferentially help. I promise if you would've clinched with the guy, your body would've just done what you've been doing and that's submit.
@mickor You never know; things might have turned out for the best. If you had taken the guy down, he might have pulled out a knife and stabbed you--it happens. Fighting in the street should really be the LAST resort. I know it's hard on the ego to walk away, but street fights are often won not by the best fighters, but by the most vicious and unethical persons. The best remedy is to become so good at BJJ that you feel no need to prove anything to anybody.
Yeah dude, don't worry. I have experienced that in some altercations as well, whereas in others, I have been able to react perfectly. So I doubt that'll happen to you every time without fail. I think they do practice that sort of thing at self-defense focused bjj schools and definitely at quality Krav Maga places (e.g. people practicing getting into your face and screaming at you etc.). If you don't have access to any of these, I suggest getting out of your comfort zone and trying to roll with some of the savages and scarier dudes on the mat. Take a mental note of how you feel when you're in a bad or uncomfortable position against them and try your best to breathe and remain calm. For example, I'm a 172 pound purple belt. Some times, when i'm stuck underneath the scarf hold of a 200 pound+ opponent, I feel the temptation to freak out or tap. But i've been getting much better at forcing myself to stay calm and breathe almost to the point where the thought doesn't cross my mind anymore. Stay at it.
You need to compete. It's the only environment where you can get that close to a street fight, and it'll teach you to deal with adrenaline and its crashes. It takes a few to get rid of it, but it's worth it!
My take on it is in "sport" jiu jitsu you're learning how to go against an opponent who is competent in jiu jitsu also, and in a self defense sense the attacker will probably not know jiu jitsu and will be in all out attack mode, and you use your skills to defend yourself until an opening shows itself and you capitalize on the attackers sloppiness.
All good as long as those skills involve know how to defend strikes (on the feet and the ground) as well as controlling the distance. Too many bjj guys just put their head down and shoot sloppy doubles from 20 feet away
I was assaulted in the past. now looking in retrospect, I wish I had a few months of BJJ at the time. Now I'm a purple belt and feel secure in many manners in life.
The story you told from 1:40-2:40 about learning wrestling and then using it to deal with bullies brought back a lot of memories from my own life many years ago. I did similar after being in wrestling for about 1 year. I did not throw a single punch and was able to end each confrontation to my advantage similar to your description.
BJJ is awesome, and the best thing you get out of it (outside of technique) is body awareness, how to distribute your weight, move on the ground etc. Also, if you do happen to hit the ground, you're not gonna panic and hyperventilate. While slams are fine and dandy and can end fights instantly (and you'll potentially have legal problems if the attacker dies) in the street you dont wanna go to the ground cause you're not mobile, there could be multiple attackers, the dude could have a concealed knife etc. But as you said, it can also help you end conflicts which couldnt be resolved by backing down, by just choking the person out instead of knocking them out, having them hit the pavement with their skull and potentially die - which again, leads to legal problems. :) Most Martial arts are great, and each and every one of them will help you in some regard. A lot of it also has to do with mental preparation, and training yourself not to freeze in face of conflict if you absolutely cannot run away, and attacking violently to end the threat asap. Krav maga for example is great precisely cause of the mental aspect, along with actual usable weapons defenses, mixed with BJJ if shit hits the fan and you hit the ground, or you're a police officer...
I’m going to be 58 this year and have been a ufc fan from the start. I took Hap Ki Do back in the 80’s but haven’t trained since. Your videos have been inspiring me to take Jiu Jitsu classes. I haven’t taken the plunge yet but hopefully once the quarantine is over I will. Until then I will continue to be inspired by you! Thanks for the inspiration Chewy!
Hey Luke, I am also 58 and been thinking about taking BJJ. i got my first class tomorrow wednesday 2nd. I am very nervous but also excited. The video on here from Chewy have made me want to try and pass my fear of trying bjj. My class is tomorrow 8pm london time.
If you want to know how to use Jiu-Jitsu in a real fight just watch those old Gracie challenge matches. They were masters at applying their Jiu-Jitsu against stand up fighters who wanted to knock their heads off.
Agree completely. They were brilliant at controlling distance and knowing when to attack. People think it’s easy to do what they did, on the contrary it took great skill and self control, and they always stuck to their strengths, they never tried to out strike a striker or throw a judo player. It was maintain distance, attack, take to the ground, fight for position and win by strikes from mount or submission.
Great video and I agree with what you said. I just started bjj (and just turned 40) because I've always wanted to and because I'm starting a new career as a bail bondsman (bounty hunter) and wanted to help prepare myself for cqc. I plan on supplementing with mui tai or boxing as well once my ground game is established. I'm already loving it and don't even mind the body aches and soreness. I'm getting better every day.
One of the things I really appreciate that my instructor does is he will tell us, this is a cool guy move or dont use this in the street or this only works if someone is trying to punch you. Which i really appreciate because for those move that are geared toward competition i like to come familiar with but i dont spend a lot of time on.
Well said Chewy. I started Krav Maga training and then picked up BJJ. It was remarkable how much of the BJJ (sport) training naturally and effectively showed up during live, with striking, Krav Maga ground sparring. Gi or No Gi, sport or self defense, you nailed it that the bones of BJJ are what matters and show up when you need them.
But i think the point that people like Rener Gracie has is that you need to practice jiu jitsu in a self defence setting for it to be truly effective. His main point is that it is a self defence art that you can use for competition. You should'nt learn it as a sport and then just be told "oh you should'nt use this and that on the street btw" The main focus should be self defence and you should learn that before all the slick moves that will win a jiu jitsu match.
Yea, but "sport jiu-jitsu" and "self defense jiu-jitsu" are 90%+ the same thing. I don't imagine that the average "sport jiu-jitsu" purple belt has much trouble defending himself in the street.
I think the main difference between street and sport jiujitsu is that in street someones kore than likely throwing punches or kicks at you which makes your execution of techn ique much more stressful. Otherwise I agree..90% the same thing.
True, but when you fight you can adapt to different fighting styles. Not every BJJ practitioner likes the same and you have to be able to adapt to that style. I think this is what Chewy is saying in regards to changing which loves you use.
I'm a huge fan of Rener & Ryron's approach. I'm not a student of theirs but I believe it works like this. All of your training up to blue belt is in preparation for a street fight. All of the techniques taught are ones that are applicable and effective in the street. After that you can start learning master cycle which would be stuff you'd see more in sport jiu jitsu (spider guard, de la riva, etc). If someone here is a Gracie University/GJJ student please correct me if I'm wrong.
I do agree with you coach chewie, that bjj for the most part is universally the same for the self defense and sport jiu jitsu varieties. But... there’s a big difference in the training methods between the two types. I’m training at a self defense focused jiu jitsu gym. The training focuses mainly on repetitive drills of techniques, distance management, stand up throws/take downs of judo, and punch block protections. where as the sport variety gyms (which I’ve trained there as well) focused on starting the ‘fight’ sitting down, points, not focused on repeating drills of techniques, no consideration for distance management and punch blocks. so theoretically a person can learn jits at a sport oriented jiu jitsu gym (that may be the same as the jits that are being taught at a self defense school) but the learned muscle memories that are meant for self defense are not there during a street fight. it all comes down to training methods and goals of the training. are the students being taught to earn points at the expense of maintaining distance, punch block protections, or to maintaine positional dominance and protect one’s face?
The gracies have an excellent online curriculum called gracie combatives. All of it encompasses distant management, takedowns, clinch, and guard techniques al l while avoiding punches. You bring that material to a bjj gym and you get the best of both worlds. You are correct in saying the bare bones are all the same. But the combatives emphasize self defense in these specific situations. Take a peak chewjistu. But great video. 👍
100% dude. I always say it only changes when youre on the bottom, but as a grappler you should most likely be on top. You'll know what puts you at risk of being punched. The fundamentals work the best in a street fight anyway. Even on the bottom if you know the basics you'll be able to control the distance, sweep or submit.
Thing is, much of bjj is devoted to guard systems. Being on the bottom, even a clinch or far away position, is vulnerable to strikes. The longer you do bjj, the more you realize that the easiest counter to a move is not ending up there. The final conclusion to this reasoning is to devote a lot if not most of your time to stand up and top control while limiting being on your back.
Just wanted to throw my two cents in on the gauntlet discussion. Though every belt is earned, through time training and sparring, the new belt, or new lvl achieved, is remembered and valued more when they make "the walk". When u r given something, it is lightly regarded. When u go through some pain and adversity to get it, that something becomes highly esteemed and greatly valued. Yes to the gauntlet!
I think the separation most people talk about is regards to sport vs street is the concept of blocking and throwing punches or kicks . Other than that the control and submit aspect is fluid.
Hi there @Chewjitsu, I have gotten to enjoy you channel and information in your vidos. I agree with you and what is it most important I think, is to be able to identify which techniques are best kept for sport and which ones can be tweaked for self defense. Great video.
Hello Chewy I appreciate the video.I also appreciate the advice on walking away when there is the opportunity. Sometimes,there are streetfighters that would consider this tactic to be indicative that one is afraid. What would be your opinion on this?
chewy is 100% right for dam sure! because I was able to pull off the berimbolo in a self defense situation on two separate occasions .. don't get me wrong some things you have to be more careful with because there's strikes involved etc...but every thing pretty much works the same ...I feel like the situation almost has to be calling for the technique in order for you to pull it off but that's with anything BJJ boxing , muay Thai and so on ...
Always wonder after 9 years of jujitsu and standup for years what it be like to use it on the street never really been confronted so I just go thru it mentally if there are chairs tables it can be different than with an environment of chairs and tables , I think I would start it out with stand up to use as a distraction and try to do a take down; good pointers in the video helpful suggestions as always ! : )
My last instructor always liked to point out what bjj techniques are good in a street fight which ones aren't while showing us the moves of the day. Sometimes he would show a variation that would be more suitable to a self defence situation. I thought it was a nice touch, something to be mindfull of. Like getting mount on someone in the street, no need to go for an arm bar just hammer or slap his face until he complies. As for woman I think bjj is certainly the best thing they can learn for self defence.
Chewy the comment of walking away is hard. I am reading the Iliad and Athena(cool wisdom) tells Achilles(hot head) to stay his anger and not kill Agamemnon. For me, this wisdom only comes after years of losing my head after being provoked. I am 32 and still get in fights every now and then. I teach boxing now and see how trapped these boys feel because they just want punch someone when they feel disrespected. One of our boxers beat up a bully at school when provoked, he didn't take it to far, but even the teachers got this primal unspoken message. "There will be consequences for disrespecting me." Young men need to learn to be proud and defend what is theirs. Our society wants the white knight in shining armor but the first stage is red. All the good men I know were at one point unrefined and hot headed and through getting into trouble learn how to respect others. Iron John speaks of ancient rites of passage and the flairing up and getting into trouble was accepted and guided by elders who got the red knight 11 to 35 to the white knight(over 35). Thanks for the dialogue love your channel. I'm curious of any experiences in your that have been like a rite of passage.
After 27 years of martial arts, 4 Black Belts and 10 pro mma fights, I only half agree. You fight how you train and most people don't train to fight. There is just way to much for me to type here in a comment section. Maybe we can discuss it at the next team training. Or maybe a video debate for fun. Might make a cool video for your channel.
As far as I understood some sport techniques make you vulnerable for opponent's actions like biting or kicking or punching, or can hurt you off matts, or cannot be used without gi. These techniques can be modified or abandoned for better ones. In the end bjj is a great base for self defense for a reason, even with all the modifications.
The most important change is the distance. If you are using BJJ in a situation with strikes involved you have to be either all the way in or all the way out
When I started doing Bjj my motivation was to been able to defend myself pretty well in a real fight ...to become an specialist of the art. So I started to train (with the GI) every day. But I realized that only maybe 30 or 40% of the concepts and techniques with the GI are apply-able for a real fight. NO GI techniques and concepts on the opposed can be applied 100% of the time to a real fight. So I decided to spend my time doing only No-GI … Now after devoting myself a while, with all do respect …I have been successfully able to submit guys regularly in NO GI training that have been doing Bjj for way much longer than me …But their mistake is doing only GI training. Now imagine what I could do in a real fight to a guy without not training. And imagine what a waste of time is training with the GI these days if you are preparing for the CHAOS of a real fight. "If you want peace, prepare for war"
Any tech worth learning that actually works in combat can be done without a gi so why hold on to the gi..do we still have dial up internet , pay phones, no they are from the 90s so why do these bjj guys say lets keep this gi from 1800-1993??
Kid threw hands at me after some petty shit, I without memory Bodylocked him and dropped him right on the concrete, he was done after that, But it was like my body did it without thinking
Thankfully Ive not had a street fight since childhood but listening to others, I feel like most of the common altercations one gets into involve alcohol and are against the untrained. I think this is where BJJ really shines- start with blast double leg, mount, wait for him to exposed his back, take back, RNC, the end. I think the extremely dangerous situations come in when there is a weapon, multiple opponents or if he is trained (MMA, BJJ, boxing, etc...). I feel like because you never really know, don't get into this at all.
When I turned the video I thought that it will be a lecture about 'big' difference between sport vs self-defense. But now I am happy. You are the second person who doesn't divide sport and self-defense BJJ. And that's how it should be. You train BJJ and MIGHT use it in case of need. Period. I do not believe that a great competitor is a weak person.
The first fight I ever got into after starting Tai Chi was over in an instant. no one was hurt, outside of his ego, no one called the cops. Everyone went home. I had never felt safe until after that.
I have been a Traditional Jujustu practitioner for 30 + years and have friends in a local Gracie Academy I consider BJJ practitioners to be my brothers and sisters but I have heard some BJJ players bad mouth my art. I have my own theories about what differentiates the perspectives of the arts and makes them legitimate within their own framework, that would make this post too long. However I really appreciate hearing a BJJ man who is known, speak of differences in the arts with respect... Thank You Sir
Have done.. lol... and insult to injury, I have Cerebral Palsy... so the shock on their face of me providing my tactics is compounded by Tiny Tim air rolling them...good times!
When I was a kid I took Shotokan Karate to learn how to "fight" and I did learn how to fight. However, I would have been a way better fighter if I had learned BJJ, which nobody was teaching in the states back when I was a kid. Even if they were teaching it, I probably still would have rather done karate just because that was the thing back then.
I cross train and just started BJJ as well. I think there's a difference. There's things u do in BJJ that doesn't prepare you for a street fight. Take a side kick to the knee cap and try to go for a takedown as your hobbling around. What if there's Glass on The ground? What if his friends join and gang up on you? Jiu Jitsu is a lot of fun to learn but it's too risky on The Streets. In my opinion . just my take
If there is glass on the ground you slam their ass on it. If you train wrestling (which you should if you do BJJ) then you should have a lot more take downs than a double leg. Kicks also leave you open for takedowns, if you can't stop a takedown you are done in a 1v1 fight.
Space Groyper Yes they do but a smart fighter knows proper distance And knows how to intercept . Takedowns are great When they work. Too much can go wrong though. U miss a takedown you're probably either getting a knee to The Head, a kick to the face among other things. I love training BJJ don't get me wrong but there's a time and a place for it. All im saying
@chewjitsu Chewy i got a question for you im a bigger guy 5 10 220 im decently fit not 220 fat, i just signed up at a gym for bjj so im a complete scrub but im looking for some good gis to purchase any recommendations you have for fit and sizing ?
I am looking to start training BJJ for MMA and have narrowed it down to 2 places. One gym offers both Gi and no Gi while the other is strictly 10th planet jiu jitsu. They are both about the same pricing wise as well as distance from my house but I'm not sure which to pick. I've heard it's better to learn the fundamentals with a Gi, is that true? Any advice would be appreciated.
The way I look at it is that sports combat might not precisely simulate real-world fighting, but it's by far the best way to actually prepare for a real-world fight. The applicability is through the roof, so much so that a sport combat fighter will be a zillion times more prepared than the person who doesn't do sport combat but has gotten into a lot of real-world fights. Difference is night and day, the person who has had a lot of real-world fights but no sports combat is still pretty much untrained. Big difference between trained and untrained. I think where a lot of critics of sports combat are coming from is the "reality-based" self-defense philosophy. Problem with that though is they typically don't actually work, they are very low percentage forms. They can't be properly tested as they are too dangerous, but in fact sports combat has been in a position to test them with no-holds-barred fighting and they just don't work or at best are very low percentage forms.
You made excellent points. I think bjj is effective because your partner is really trying to choke you and you're really trying to defend. I think bjj clubs should encourage students every so often to put on head gear and have the "bad guy" wear soft gloves. Start off standing. Try to get the take down where punches are involved. Establish the mount when punches are involved etc. I think it would be useful to regularly train with punches. That being said, any bjj is better than none especially against an untrained opponent.
The secret is live training and also performing under stress. Any legitimate martial art can do this. Boxing w 16 oz gloves and headgear against game opponents for example. BJJ also brings a legacy of competing against other martial arts. The best boxer can be taken out with a sidekick if he’s never dealt w one before for example. Training BJJ for self defense should be an easy teach. However, even a purple belt can be taken out by a boxer if he has never dealt w one before in training. That being said, BJJ trained for self defense against even skilled boxers can be dominant.
Chewjitsu..... I'm 45 and new to jiu jitsu. I love it and want to continue with it as long as I can. One thing I've noticed is I get mat burns and bruises to the tops of my feet along my knuckles. Is there a way to prevent that? I actually skipped class tonight because of mat burns to the tops of both of my feet. Thanks Craig
Curious George Thats pretty normal. I know it sucks but after a while your technique will get better and you wont have so many because your motion will become a little more fluid, if that makes any sense. You can always put some sort of athletic tape on the areas that are being rubbed too.....after they heal up of course. You will still get em from time to time....but they wont be as bad.
BJJ has a track record of testimonials from pretty ordinary people who have used it to defend themselves, these are verifiable testimonials often reported in newspapers, with accompanying police reports. I am not saying it's the only method or even the best but it's streets ahead of most based on that alone. Then, on top of that, it's fun, keeps you fit, provides healthy competition, nice community relatively low risk of serious injury. I mean what's not to like. There was a report recently in the UK, actually it was an MMA fighter coming to the rescue of a third party but the techniques he used were, take down, took the back, RNC, then kept control of the individual while waiting for the police. www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2018/06/26/mma-fighter-tackles-mugger-and-warns-him-ill-put-you-to-sleep/
So true, I go into a gym they say you want to compete?? No , I only want self defense training. BJJ, catch as catch can, boxing and muay thai, some Kali and sambo.
You just have to look at how many sport jiu jitsu guys are kicking ass in MMA to understand that you learn how to defend yourself also by training for competition. McKenzie Dern, Damian Maia, Garry Tonon, Dillon Danis, Rodolfo Vieira. Yes, playing spider guard does not translate directly to combat, but the truth is that if you just want to defend yourself in the street, you will be fine with just a blue belt
I agree. I'd be more apt to say purple belt though, or a blue belt who's been training for a couple of years. I can't imagine there are many pure "sport jiu-jitsu" schools in the world anyway. At most every school you're going to learn at least some self defense. In any case, "sport jiu-jitsu" and "self defense or Gracie jiu-jitsu" are 90%+ the same thing.
Speaking of butt scooting, have you seen those videos where they kind of start an altercation on the street and then drop and butt scooting at the guy...lol. the ones I saw the guy was freaked out and ran off.
I think jiu jitsu is as good as any martial art and better than most; BUT, like most arts it does not adequately cover the asocial violence part of the equation and therefore needs to be supplemented with other material. (Tim Larkin and the TFT guys are my go-to.) Watch the video again and read most of the comments and you'll see what I mean. Most of the stories are along the lines of "I fought the bully at the bar/school/whatever," situations that most of these folks could have walked away from. This is social/anti-social violence, not life-threatening, criminal, asocial violence. It's an entirely different animal. I'm not saying jiu jitsu techniques "don't work" in these situations, but if you think of "self-defense" and your mind goes to "the rude guy at the bar" then there's a crucial part of understanding self-defense that you're missing. Nobody wants to end up in the Anthony Smith situation only to find out that they're not Anthony Smith enough to survive with sports-related training alone.
I loved that manga when i was a kid, the guy was in 'training', he had to clean his college and he wouldn't get into training until he could dodge an attack from one of his teachers... He gets beat all day, all weak, all month.... And once, randomly, he sneezes RIGHT when one of his teacher is about to hit him... All of the teachers are so impressed, and the dude is like "no no i'm not ready" and he gets his ass beat even worse during training lol
Professor Chewjitsu, Constructive criticism. Would it be fair to sum up your argument as, "The core of BJJ is there, so if there's a real fight, don't worry about it -- you'll naturally adapt your existing 'sport' style into a 'realistic' form." Isn't that what a lot of traditional martial artists have said? "Yeah, I know this kick/punch/throw/block/move isn't realistic. Don't worry -- if you ever get into a real fight, you can adapt it slightly and it'll be effective." Of course, this assumption isn't pressure tested, and in a high-pressure environment, the traditional martial artist isn't thinking clearly and simply reverts back to how he was trained. In the same way, you're assuming the BJJ practitioner who always drops to his butt and pulls guard will be able to overcome muscle memory in a flight-or-fight, high-stress scenario. How do you know that if you're not pressure-testing for self-defense vs. sport scenarios (e.g. practicing distance management, throwing punches while rolling, etc)? Respectfully, butlers
The only people in jiu jitsu who claim that self defense and sport are the same thing is the people who only do sport. Chewy says the nuts and bolts are the same - you need to achieve the clench, get the takedown and if you wind up on the bottom lock up the guard and defend punches. Ok..if you haven’t PRACTICED that then you aren’t PREPARED for it. If you are training to get ready for tournaments and rolling with all different belt levels you are still neglecting one type of opponent - STRIKING opponent. Chewy said if strikes are in play then he’s going to change some things - well shit chewy, if you’ve never trained for that you will have to figure it out on the spot. You’ve never heard of a sport jiu jitsu person losing a fight?! Seriously?? Look harder bro. IF YOU ARENT PRACTICING distance management for punch protection then you can’t trust your jiu jitsu to protect your life- period. Of course the sport technique is fantastic and you will probably do just fine in most scenarios but if you find yourself fighting a bigger, stronger, more athletic opponent who is punching you need Gracie jiu jitsu - the ONLY style of jiu jitsu that was created specifically for that. It addresses the distances at which you can hurt and BE HURT and makes you effective at that specific game. This is very important because I don’t want my sport JJ bros and broettes to get out there and get their teeth knocked out because they fought someone even remotely like they would roll in the gym with an untrained white belt. It’s NOT the same - because the white belt is now punching every chance he gets.
Chewjitsu I’ve been training bjj for 18 years. You are superior to me but I am speaking on this topic from experience and playing witness to countless examples surrounding me. Marcelo García got smashed in a fight. But in the big picture this doesn’t matter chewy - because these guys are great ATHLETES so of course they are going to do just fine in a fight just like a professional soccer player or professional football player will be just fine in a fight. What REALLY matters is if your student pink shirt got into a fight, would you rather him play his sport jiu jitsu game with them and figure out the punches on the spot or would you rather him have spent countless hours training in those distances where punches happen and drilling how to fill those spaces or how to remove that slack etc - would you rather him KNOW he’s prepared for punches after practicing defending punches and dealing with opponents who have no other goal but to hit their face with their hands? Again, if you aren’t comfortable with strikes in a combat scenario then being INSIDE the fight is not when you want to find that out.
For self defense you should never pull guard, I come from a wrestling back ground and I never pull guard so if I am ever in a real situation my muscle memory never fails me puling guard, I find people who do sport jujitsu almost always pull guard.
My gym where i trained i got promoted to blue belt 2 weeks ago but prof had no blue belts so had to use another students belt for the pic he takes, but he promoted another student to blue and he had a belt a few days after i was promoted and im still waiting for my belt needless to say i have quit thats a Gracie Barra gym for you
I usually like the advice given here, but this is not a good message. The reasons being are that 1) most schools don't teach the fundamentals or the basics anymore that would actually translate to a real fight; and 2) you can't just turn on a self-defense mindset when all you practice is sport jiu-jitsu unless you practice both on a regular basis. Seriously, the schools here in southern California, which is supposed to be a mecca of jiu-jitsu, more often than not teach jiu-jitsu for competition first and foremost. I can tell you first hand that most of this stuff that I'm learning in class won't work on the street. I had to go out of my way to learn, in addition to what I'm learning at my school, actual, real-world self-defense from the Gracies. There is, in fact, a huge difference between sport and self-defense. Even Firas Zahabi recognizes this and insists on universal jiu-jitsu, which is techniques that work in all environments. I think it's irresponsible to suggest that learning sport jiu-jitsu will be enough to handle yourself in a street fight - it's a completely different mindset that most sport practitioners will not have and will not realize so until they're getting punched in the face. Maybe a world champ sport practitioner can handle himself, but that's the exception and not the rule. What about when a white belt or blue belt needs to defend himself? He's going to be in a world of trouble. Most schools do not prepare you for the possibility of head-butts while someone is in your guard, for instance. Just look at the old Gracie Challenges and early UFCs - sport jiu-jitsu would not help you nor could someone, on the fly, suddenly change his game from sport to self-defense unless he's drilled it and practiced it many times, which most schools do not teach.
Love how chewy jus went around double legging all his bullies 😈🤼♂️
@RMFbucketglove could have won in ot once or twice too
Probably ground n pound too
Doesn't take a "rocket doctor".
Chewy, lad.
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@@ParadymShiftVegan whatever, nerd
If you can't land an inside leg kick, you aren't landing that groin kick. If you can't land a simple jab to the face, you aren't eye poking anyone. If you try to eye gouge in someone's guard, that person will gladly breaking your fingers. If you want to eye gouge effectively, you better be in dominant position (mount or knee on belly). Then you know... gouge away, but jiu-jitsu takes you 90% of the way there.
There is a video of Bas Rutten talking about ‘street karate’. Someone said if you put me in a rear naked choke I would claw your eyes out. He said okay let’s try. You try to claw my eyes out and I will break your neck once I feel your fingers near my eyes.
Holy damn this was the somment I was looking for
Jeff Bonnell There’s something called small join manipulation. If you don’t know how to escape a chokehold in a Street fight scenario, just grab a finger of the arm wrapped around you and pull. Just watch Ramsey Dewey testing out the women’s self defense techniques and putting it through real resistance.
Great vid... and seriously, people who say "BJJ is useless in a group fight situation!" have a warped sense of reality.
I have a friend who is a 200 pound amateur mma fighter, bjj blue belt, and had been boxing all his life. He had some experience street fighting as well. One time, he and his mate were attacked by a gang of 5+ people. His friend was knocked out cold early and he only had time to line up and drop one attacker before he was hit from his blindside and on his ass. He then proceeded to fight as best as he could off his back and stay mobile whilst the gang proceeded to kick, stomp and punch until they ran off.
He had to go to hospital for stitches and bruises... but knowing how to shrimp, butt scoot, upkick and try technical standups definitely saved his bacon. Boxing is great and works, but when shit really hits the fan, you're gonna wish you knew some bjj
Not only that, you learn some stand up grappling stuff in BJJ that will help you escape from the dreaded "multi-opponent situation" that we hear so much about on the Internet.
(Incidentally, most fights in the real world are one versus one; sorry to disappoint the BJJ haters. But even if that weren't the case, you still have to learn how to fight on the ground because the other guy might take you there--and then what?)
Yep! I'm no street fighting expert, but the vast majority of altercations I have been in during my life have been legit one on one situations. People who hate on bjj and cite the "group situations" are just as biased as Gracie-boys who say "Statistically, 99% percent of all street fights end up on the ground!" Blanket statements in real life, including for self-defence contexts, are seldom accurate.
man i can tell you that in the street its where all of the 1vsX situations happen if u dont have any frriends to back u up... Ive had my alercations and im only 18, 2 times I was jumped by +5 guys and in all other situations I get fcked and niggas own my ass is when im outnumbered which happens plenty
BJJ is definitely good to know how to fight off your back in the worst-case scenario, but the argument usually is that your strategy against multiple people should be to avoid the ground at all costs, which is correct. Even taking people down and controlling on top should be avoided if the fight isn't one-on-one.
@@profd65 lol it honestly depends on where you live for the most part. Where I live nobody fights one on one anymore everyone is always with at least one other person
"That shit will not work in a street fight," said every single internet troll who has never trained & has never been involved in street fights.
mickor at least 2 or 3 competitions will deferentially help. I promise if you would've clinched with the guy, your body would've just done what you've been doing and that's submit.
If you're behind a bar and fighting some guy that wrestled five years in school, you'll be happy that you know some BJJ.
@mickor
You never know; things might have turned out for the best. If you had taken the guy down, he might have pulled out a knife and stabbed you--it happens. Fighting in the street should really be the LAST resort. I know it's hard on the ego to walk away, but street fights are often won not by the best fighters, but by the most vicious and unethical persons.
The best remedy is to become so good at BJJ that you feel no need to prove anything to anybody.
Yeah dude, don't worry. I have experienced that in some altercations as well, whereas in others, I have been able to react perfectly. So I doubt that'll happen to you every time without fail.
I think they do practice that sort of thing at self-defense focused bjj schools and definitely at quality Krav Maga places (e.g. people practicing getting into your face and screaming at you etc.). If you don't have access to any of these, I suggest getting out of your comfort zone and trying to roll with some of the savages and scarier dudes on the mat. Take a mental note of how you feel when you're in a bad or uncomfortable position against them and try your best to breathe and remain calm.
For example, I'm a 172 pound purple belt. Some times, when i'm stuck underneath the scarf hold of a 200 pound+ opponent, I feel the temptation to freak out or tap. But i've been getting much better at forcing myself to stay calm and breathe almost to the point where the thought doesn't cross my mind anymore. Stay at it.
You need to compete. It's the only environment where you can get that close to a street fight, and it'll teach you to deal with adrenaline and its crashes. It takes a few to get rid of it, but it's worth it!
My take on it is in "sport" jiu jitsu you're learning how to go against an opponent who is competent in jiu jitsu also, and in a self defense sense the attacker will probably not know jiu jitsu and will be in all out attack mode, and you use your skills to defend yourself until an opening shows itself and you capitalize on the attackers sloppiness.
All good as long as those skills involve know how to defend strikes (on the feet and the ground) as well as controlling the distance. Too many bjj guys just put their head down and shoot sloppy doubles from 20 feet away
And i couldnt believe it! He started waxing off in front of the bully! And the bully actually left him alone! Amazing!
this comment deserves more likes
I was assaulted in the past. now looking in retrospect, I wish I had a few months of BJJ at the time. Now I'm a purple belt and feel secure in many manners in life.
The story you told from 1:40-2:40 about learning wrestling and then using it to deal with bullies brought back a lot of memories from my own life many years ago. I did similar after being in wrestling for about 1 year. I did not throw a single punch and was able to end each confrontation to my advantage similar to your description.
BJJ is awesome, and the best thing you get out of it (outside of technique) is body awareness, how to distribute your weight, move on the ground etc. Also, if you do happen to hit the ground, you're not gonna panic and hyperventilate.
While slams are fine and dandy and can end fights instantly (and you'll potentially have legal problems if the attacker dies) in the street you dont wanna go to the ground cause you're not mobile, there could be multiple attackers, the dude could have a concealed knife etc.
But as you said, it can also help you end conflicts which couldnt be resolved by backing down, by just choking the person out instead of knocking them out, having them hit the pavement with their skull and potentially die - which again, leads to legal problems. :)
Most Martial arts are great, and each and every one of them will help you in some regard.
A lot of it also has to do with mental preparation, and training yourself not to freeze in face of conflict if you absolutely cannot run away, and attacking violently to end the threat asap.
Krav maga for example is great precisely cause of the mental aspect, along with actual usable weapons defenses, mixed with BJJ if shit hits the fan and you hit the ground, or you're a police officer...
I’m going to be 58 this year and have been a ufc fan from the start. I took Hap Ki Do back in the 80’s but haven’t trained since.
Your videos have been inspiring me to take Jiu Jitsu classes. I haven’t taken the plunge yet but hopefully once the quarantine is over I will.
Until then I will continue to be inspired by you! Thanks for the inspiration Chewy!
Hey Luke, I am also 58 and been thinking about taking BJJ. i got my first class tomorrow wednesday 2nd. I am very nervous but also excited. The video on here from Chewy have made me want to try and pass my fear of trying bjj. My class is tomorrow 8pm london time.
If you want to know how to use Jiu-Jitsu in a real fight just watch those old Gracie challenge matches. They were masters at applying their Jiu-Jitsu against stand up fighters who wanted to knock their heads off.
Agree completely. They were brilliant at controlling distance and knowing when to attack. People think it’s easy to do what they did, on the contrary it took great skill and self control, and they always stuck to their strengths, they never tried to out strike a striker or throw a judo player. It was maintain distance, attack, take to the ground, fight for position and win by strikes from mount or submission.
As a Gracie jiu-jitsu grappler, I feel you gave a great explanation /outlook. Thanks for sharing. I'm now a subscriber! Thank you.
Great video and I agree with what you said. I just started bjj (and just turned 40) because I've always wanted to and because I'm starting a new career as a bail bondsman (bounty hunter) and wanted to help prepare myself for cqc. I plan on supplementing with mui tai or boxing as well once my ground game is established. I'm already loving it and don't even mind the body aches and soreness. I'm getting better every day.
One of the things I really appreciate that my instructor does is he will tell us, this is a cool guy move or dont use this in the street or this only works if someone is trying to punch you. Which i really appreciate because for those move that are geared toward competition i like to come familiar with but i dont spend a lot of time on.
Yeah I have some strong feelings about this. I strongly agree! I hope that's constructive enough. ;-)
Great reference to the Karate Kid training Chewy. Very simple way to explain it so everyone understands.
"It Doesnt take a rocket doctor to understand that!" 4:20
Well said Chewy. I started Krav Maga training and then picked up BJJ. It was remarkable how much of the BJJ (sport) training naturally and effectively showed up during live, with striking, Krav Maga ground sparring. Gi or No Gi, sport or self defense, you nailed it that the bones of BJJ are what matters and show up when you need them.
But i think the point that people like Rener Gracie has is that you need to practice jiu jitsu in a self defence setting for it to be truly effective. His main point is that it is a self defence art that you can use for competition. You should'nt learn it as a sport and then just be told "oh you should'nt use this and that on the street btw" The main focus should be self defence and you should learn that before all the slick moves that will win a jiu jitsu match.
Yea, but "sport jiu-jitsu" and "self defense jiu-jitsu" are 90%+ the same thing. I don't imagine that the average "sport jiu-jitsu" purple belt has much trouble defending himself in the street.
I think the main difference between street and sport jiujitsu is that in street someones kore than likely throwing punches or kicks at you which makes your execution of techn ique much more stressful. Otherwise I agree..90% the same thing.
"BOOM! He starts painting fence and waxin' off"
-Chewie 2018
You are good at what you train for.
True, but when you fight you can adapt to different fighting styles. Not every BJJ practitioner likes the same and you have to be able to adapt to that style. I think this is what Chewy is saying in regards to changing which loves you use.
I'm a huge fan of Rener & Ryron's approach. I'm not a student of theirs but I believe it works like this. All of your training up to blue belt is in preparation for a street fight. All of the techniques taught are ones that are applicable and effective in the street. After that you can start learning master cycle which would be stuff you'd see more in sport jiu jitsu (spider guard, de la riva, etc). If someone here is a Gracie University/GJJ student please correct me if I'm wrong.
I do agree with you coach chewie, that bjj for the most part is universally the same for the self defense and sport jiu jitsu varieties.
But...
there’s a big difference in the training methods between the two types.
I’m training at a self defense focused jiu jitsu gym. The training focuses mainly on repetitive drills of techniques, distance management, stand up throws/take downs of judo, and punch block protections.
where as the sport variety gyms (which I’ve trained there as well) focused on starting the ‘fight’ sitting down, points, not focused on repeating drills of techniques, no consideration for distance management and punch blocks.
so theoretically a person can learn jits at a sport oriented jiu jitsu gym (that may be the same as the jits that are being taught at a self defense school) but the learned muscle memories that are meant for self defense are not there during a street fight.
it all comes down to training methods and goals of the training.
are the students being taught to earn points at the expense of maintaining distance, punch block protections, or to maintaine positional dominance and protect one’s face?
I've been Waxing off for years...think I'm ready for the street.
to catch a predator
The gracies have an excellent online curriculum called gracie combatives. All of it encompasses distant management, takedowns, clinch, and guard techniques al l while avoiding punches. You bring that material to a bjj gym and you get the best of both worlds. You are correct in saying the bare bones are all the same. But the combatives emphasize self defense in these specific situations. Take a peak chewjistu. But great video. 👍
100% dude. I always say it only changes when youre on the bottom, but as a grappler you should most likely be on top. You'll know what puts you at risk of being punched. The fundamentals work the best in a street fight anyway. Even on the bottom if you know the basics you'll be able to control the distance, sweep or submit.
Thing is, much of bjj is devoted to guard systems. Being on the bottom, even a clinch or far away position, is vulnerable to strikes.
The longer you do bjj, the more you realize that the easiest counter to a move is not ending up there. The final conclusion to this reasoning is to devote a lot if not most of your time to stand up and top control while limiting being on your back.
Just wanted to throw my two cents in on the gauntlet discussion. Though every belt is earned, through time training and sparring, the new belt, or new lvl achieved, is remembered and valued more when they make "the walk".
When u r given something, it is lightly regarded. When u go through some pain and adversity to get it, that something becomes highly esteemed and greatly valued. Yes to the gauntlet!
I think the separation most people talk about is regards to sport vs street is the concept of blocking and throwing punches or kicks . Other than that the control and submit aspect is fluid.
Hi there @Chewjitsu, I have gotten to enjoy you channel and information in your vidos. I agree with you and what is it most important I think, is to be able to identify which techniques are best kept for sport and which ones can be tweaked for self defense. Great video.
Hello Chewy
I appreciate the video.I also appreciate the advice on walking away when there is the opportunity.
Sometimes,there are streetfighters that would consider this tactic to be indicative that one is afraid.
What would be your opinion on this?
chewy is 100% right for dam sure! because I was able to pull off the berimbolo in a self defense situation on two separate occasions .. don't get me wrong some things you have to be more careful with because there's strikes involved etc...but every thing pretty much works the same ...I feel like the situation almost has to be calling for the technique in order for you to pull it off but that's with anything BJJ boxing , muay Thai and so on ...
"rocket doctor", Im going to add that to my vocabulary! :)
Love your videos man keep up the good work
You just destroyed the self defense vs sport debate in a 9 minute video. Thanks Chewie
I don't know how many times wrestling has saved my little 135 lbs life. Had no idea I was learning how to fight.
It's a vicious and highly practical supplement/basis for grappling technique. Good shit
Always wonder after 9 years of jujitsu and standup for years what it be like to use it on the street never really been confronted so I just go thru it mentally if there are chairs tables it can be different than with an environment of chairs and tables , I think I would start it out with stand up to use as a distraction and try to do a take down; good pointers in the video helpful suggestions as always ! : )
My last instructor always liked to point out what bjj techniques are good in a street fight which ones aren't while showing us the moves of the day. Sometimes he would show a variation that would be more suitable to a self defence situation. I thought it was a nice touch, something to be mindfull of. Like getting mount on someone in the street, no need to go for an arm bar just hammer or slap his face until he complies. As for woman I think bjj is certainly the best thing they can learn for self defence.
Chewy the comment of walking away is hard. I am reading the Iliad and Athena(cool wisdom) tells Achilles(hot head) to stay his anger and not kill Agamemnon. For me, this wisdom only comes after years of losing my head after being provoked. I am 32 and still get in fights every now and then. I teach boxing now and see how trapped these boys feel because they just want punch someone when they feel disrespected. One of our boxers beat up a bully at school when provoked, he didn't take it to far, but even the teachers got this primal unspoken message. "There will be consequences for disrespecting me." Young men need to learn to be proud and defend what is theirs. Our society wants the white knight in shining armor but the first stage is red. All the good men I know were at one point unrefined and hot headed and through getting into trouble learn how to respect others. Iron John speaks of ancient rites of passage and the flairing up and getting into trouble was accepted and guided by elders who got the red knight 11 to 35 to the white knight(over 35). Thanks for the dialogue love your channel. I'm curious of any experiences in your that have been like a rite of passage.
After 27 years of martial arts, 4 Black Belts and 10 pro mma fights, I only half agree. You fight how you train and most people don't train to fight.
There is just way to much for me to type here in a comment section. Maybe we can discuss it at the next team training. Or maybe a video debate for fun. Might make a cool video for your channel.
With your experience I would greatly like to hear what you have to say man :)
Chewy, great video
As far as I understood some sport techniques make you vulnerable for opponent's actions like biting or kicking or punching, or can hurt you off matts, or cannot be used without gi. These techniques can be modified or abandoned for better ones. In the end bjj is a great base for self defense for a reason, even with all the modifications.
Great video bro!
The most important change is the distance. If you are using BJJ in a situation with strikes involved you have to be either all the way in or all the way out
When I started doing Bjj my motivation was to been able to defend myself pretty well in a real fight ...to become an specialist of the art.
So I started to train (with the GI) every day. But I realized that only maybe 30 or 40% of the concepts and techniques with the GI are apply-able for a real fight. NO GI techniques and concepts on the opposed can be applied 100% of the time to a real fight. So I decided to spend my time doing only No-GI … Now after devoting myself a while, with all do respect …I have been successfully able to submit guys regularly in NO GI training that have been doing Bjj for way much longer than me …But their mistake is doing only GI training.
Now imagine what I could do in a real fight to a guy without not training. And imagine what a waste of time is training with the GI these days if you are preparing for the CHAOS of a real fight.
"If you want peace, prepare for war"
I agree about the NoGi being applicable always, but I train both because there are opportunities to apply gi that may end the fight quicker.
Any tech worth learning that actually works in combat can be done without a gi so why hold on to the gi..do we still have dial up internet , pay phones, no they are from the 90s so why do these bjj guys say lets keep this gi from 1800-1993??
That’s not necessarily true. Ryan hall competes at n the ufc but trains in gi everyday
Kid threw hands at me after some petty shit, I without memory Bodylocked him and dropped him right on the concrete, he was done after that, But it was like my body did it without thinking
That's why they call it training 😁
You're a cool dude. I like you.
Haha thanks. Glad I come across that way.
Thankfully Ive not had a street fight since childhood but listening to others, I feel like most of the common altercations one gets into involve alcohol and are against the untrained. I think this is where BJJ really shines- start with blast double leg, mount, wait for him to exposed his back, take back, RNC, the end. I think the extremely dangerous situations come in when there is a weapon, multiple opponents or if he is trained (MMA, BJJ, boxing, etc...). I feel like because you never really know, don't get into this at all.
I always use the "wax on, wax off" to explain the arm drag :D
You’re amazing. Where are you in the world? Curious.
I love this guy
By minute 5 you have successfully reconciled the two poles of JJ
When I turned the video I thought that it will be a lecture about 'big' difference between sport vs self-defense. But now I am happy.
You are the second person who doesn't divide sport and self-defense BJJ. And that's how it should be. You train BJJ and MIGHT use it in case of need. Period. I do not believe that a great competitor is a weak person.
Chew your da man! Thanks for another great upload! I want a shirt we're do I order??
The first fight I ever got into after starting Tai Chi was over in an instant. no one was hurt, outside of his ego, no one called the cops. Everyone went home. I had never felt safe until after that.
I have been a Traditional Jujustu practitioner for 30 + years and have friends in a local Gracie Academy I consider BJJ practitioners to be my brothers and sisters but I have heard some BJJ players bad mouth my art. I have my own theories about what differentiates the perspectives of the arts and makes them legitimate within their own framework, that would make this post too long. However I really appreciate hearing a BJJ man who is known, speak of differences in the arts with respect... Thank You Sir
Elwin Brake just stop
Elwin Brake just spar them lol
Have done.. lol... and insult to injury, I have Cerebral Palsy... so the shock on their face of me providing my tactics is compounded by Tiny Tim air rolling them...good times!
Tomislav Miletic stop what sir?
Japanese JIu Jitsu.
The best martial art I ever learned was my 4 years of high school wrestling.
I love your jujitsu videos
Meek Rodriguez prove it! And it's Jiu* Jitsu
When I was a kid I took Shotokan Karate to learn how to "fight" and I did learn how to fight. However, I would have been a way better fighter if I had learned BJJ, which nobody was teaching in the states back when I was a kid. Even if they were teaching it, I probably still would have rather done karate just because that was the thing back then.
I'm gonna use the phrase "rocket doctor" now
Dude your impression of Mr Miyagi just made my day XD
Chewy really enjoy the stretches you shared. What exercise or movements at home can I do by myself? I'm new to bjj and love it
Well Said OSS
I cross train and just started BJJ as well. I think there's a difference. There's things u do in BJJ that doesn't prepare you for a street fight. Take a side kick to the knee cap and try to go for a takedown as your hobbling around. What if there's Glass on The ground? What if his friends join and gang up on you? Jiu Jitsu is a lot of fun to learn but it's too risky on The Streets. In my opinion . just my take
If there is glass on the ground you slam their ass on it.
If you train wrestling (which you should if you do BJJ) then you should have a lot more take downs than a double leg.
Kicks also leave you open for takedowns, if you can't stop a takedown you are done in a 1v1 fight.
Space Groyper Yes they do but a smart fighter knows proper distance And knows how to intercept . Takedowns are great When they work. Too much can go wrong though. U miss a takedown you're probably either getting a knee to The Head, a kick to the face among other things. I love training BJJ don't get me wrong but there's a time and a place for it. All im saying
3:00 totally agree, when the tournament is sub only ;-)
Thanks bro.
@chewjitsu Chewy i got a question for you im a bigger guy 5 10 220 im decently fit not 220 fat, i just signed up at a gym for bjj so im a complete scrub but im looking for some good gis to purchase any recommendations you have for fit and sizing ?
I am looking to start training BJJ for MMA and have narrowed it down to 2 places. One gym offers both Gi and no Gi while the other is strictly 10th planet jiu jitsu. They are both about the same pricing wise as well as distance from my house but I'm not sure which to pick. I've heard it's better to learn the fundamentals with a Gi, is that true? Any advice would be appreciated.
The way I look at it is that sports combat might not precisely simulate real-world fighting, but it's by far the best way to actually prepare for a real-world fight. The applicability is through the roof, so much so that a sport combat fighter will be a zillion times more prepared than the person who doesn't do sport combat but has gotten into a lot of real-world fights. Difference is night and day, the person who has had a lot of real-world fights but no sports combat is still pretty much untrained. Big difference between trained and untrained.
I think where a lot of critics of sports combat are coming from is the "reality-based" self-defense philosophy. Problem with that though is they typically don't actually work, they are very low percentage forms. They can't be properly tested as they are too dangerous, but in fact sports combat has been in a position to test them with no-holds-barred fighting and they just don't work or at best are very low percentage forms.
You made excellent points. I think bjj is effective because your partner is really trying to choke you and you're really trying to defend. I think bjj clubs should encourage students every so often to put on head gear and have the "bad guy" wear soft gloves. Start off standing. Try to get the take down where punches are involved. Establish the mount when punches are involved etc. I think it would be useful to regularly train with punches. That being said, any bjj is better than none especially against an untrained opponent.
I missed that part in the movie where Daniel (Ralph Macchio) waxes off. 🤣
The secret is live training and also performing under stress. Any legitimate martial art can do this. Boxing w 16 oz gloves and headgear against game opponents for example. BJJ also brings a legacy of competing against other martial arts. The best boxer can be taken out with a sidekick if he’s never dealt w one before for example. Training BJJ for self defense should be an easy teach. However, even a purple belt can be taken out by a boxer if he has never dealt w one before in training. That being said, BJJ trained for self defense against even skilled boxers can be dominant.
True story!!!
I like playing half guard. I would never risk doing anything I to in competition in a self defense situation.
Chewjitsu..... I'm 45 and new to jiu jitsu. I love it and want to continue with it as long as I can. One thing I've noticed is I get mat burns and bruises to the tops of my feet along my knuckles. Is there a way to prevent that? I actually skipped class tonight because of mat burns to the tops of both of my feet.
Thanks
Craig
Curious George Thats pretty normal. I know it sucks but after a while your technique will get better and you wont have so many because your motion will become a little more fluid, if that makes any sense. You can always put some sort of athletic tape on the areas that are being rubbed too.....after they heal up of course. You will still get em from time to time....but they wont be as bad.
John Spartan thanks man
Thank you for the vision of chubby young Chewy double legging bullies for justice. I chuckled pretty good.
Haha. It probably was kind of funny to see. If you check through my instagram there are some old pictures of me when I was a chunky kid.
BJJ has a track record of testimonials from pretty ordinary people who have used it to defend themselves, these are verifiable testimonials often reported in newspapers, with accompanying police reports. I am not saying it's the only method or even the best but it's streets ahead of most based on that alone. Then, on top of that, it's fun, keeps you fit, provides healthy competition, nice community relatively low risk of serious injury. I mean what's not to like. There was a report recently in the UK, actually it was an MMA fighter coming to the rescue of a third party but the techniques he used were, take down, took the back, RNC, then kept control of the individual while waiting for the police.
www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2018/06/26/mma-fighter-tackles-mugger-and-warns-him-ill-put-you-to-sleep/
So true, I go into a gym they say you want to compete?? No , I only want self defense training. BJJ, catch as catch can, boxing and muay thai, some Kali and sambo.
it's not that hard to transfer one to another. :) that's a good point
You just have to look at how many sport jiu jitsu guys are kicking ass in MMA to understand that you learn how to defend yourself also by training for competition.
McKenzie Dern, Damian Maia, Garry Tonon, Dillon Danis, Rodolfo Vieira.
Yes, playing spider guard does not translate directly to combat, but the truth is that if you just want to defend yourself in the street, you will be fine with just a blue belt
I agree. I'd be more apt to say purple belt though, or a blue belt who's been training for a couple of years.
I can't imagine there are many pure "sport jiu-jitsu" schools in the world anyway. At most every school you're going to learn at least some self defense.
In any case, "sport jiu-jitsu" and "self defense or Gracie jiu-jitsu" are 90%+ the same thing.
Speaking of butt scooting, have you seen those videos where they kind of start an altercation on the street and then drop and butt scooting at the guy...lol. the ones I saw the guy was freaked out and ran off.
I think jiu jitsu is as good as any martial art and better than most; BUT, like most arts it does not adequately cover the asocial violence part of the equation and therefore needs to be supplemented with other material. (Tim Larkin and the TFT guys are my go-to.)
Watch the video again and read most of the comments and you'll see what I mean. Most of the stories are along the lines of "I fought the bully at the bar/school/whatever," situations that most of these folks could have walked away from. This is social/anti-social violence, not life-threatening, criminal, asocial violence. It's an entirely different animal. I'm not saying jiu jitsu techniques "don't work" in these situations, but if you think of "self-defense" and your mind goes to "the rude guy at the bar" then there's a crucial part of understanding self-defense that you're missing. Nobody wants to end up in the Anthony Smith situation only to find out that they're not Anthony Smith enough to survive with sports-related training alone.
"He just starts waxing off" I wouldn't want to fight that guy either!
I loved that manga when i was a kid, the guy was in 'training', he had to clean his college and he wouldn't get into training until he could dodge an attack from one of his teachers...
He gets beat all day, all weak, all month.... And once, randomly, he sneezes RIGHT when one of his teacher is about to hit him... All of the teachers are so impressed, and the dude is like "no no i'm not ready" and he gets his ass beat even worse during training lol
Irlrp, which manga is that?
Great story Mr Chewey. But it's hard to imagine you didn't see wrestling as a martial art. It seems so obvious.
Maybe to you. But back then things were different. Nobody saw it that way. It was sport. It's only changed with the internet and MMA.
"Painting the fence and wacking off" 😂😂😂
Professor Chewjitsu,
Constructive criticism.
Would it be fair to sum up your argument as, "The core of BJJ is there, so if there's a real fight, don't worry about it -- you'll naturally adapt your existing 'sport' style into a 'realistic' form."
Isn't that what a lot of traditional martial artists have said? "Yeah, I know this kick/punch/throw/block/move isn't realistic. Don't worry -- if you ever get into a real fight, you can adapt it slightly and it'll be effective." Of course, this assumption isn't pressure tested, and in a high-pressure environment, the traditional martial artist isn't thinking clearly and simply reverts back to how he was trained.
In the same way, you're assuming the BJJ practitioner who always drops to his butt and pulls guard will be able to overcome muscle memory in a flight-or-fight, high-stress scenario. How do you know that if you're not pressure-testing for self-defense vs. sport scenarios (e.g. practicing distance management, throwing punches while rolling, etc)?
Respectfully,
butlers
Fighting is like eating a cookie.... you must choose carefully.... and then go NOM NOM NOM NOM
Why is this not the top comment?
So wise...
Yeah, they might not ever get back up if you slam them on a hard surface.
"Rocket doctor"
Let’s get chewy vs ryron gracie!!!
4:23 what is a rocket doctor lol?
The only people in jiu jitsu who claim that self defense and sport are the same thing is the people who only do sport. Chewy says the nuts and bolts are the same - you need to achieve the clench, get the takedown and if you wind up on the bottom lock up the guard and defend punches. Ok..if you haven’t PRACTICED that then you aren’t PREPARED for it. If you are training to get ready for tournaments and rolling with all different belt levels you are still neglecting one type of opponent - STRIKING opponent. Chewy said if strikes are in play then he’s going to change some things - well shit chewy, if you’ve never trained for that you will have to figure it out on the spot. You’ve never heard of a sport jiu jitsu person losing a fight?! Seriously?? Look harder bro. IF YOU ARENT PRACTICING distance management for punch protection then you can’t trust your jiu jitsu to protect your life- period. Of course the sport technique is fantastic and you will probably do just fine in most scenarios but if you find yourself fighting a bigger, stronger, more athletic opponent who is punching you need Gracie jiu jitsu - the ONLY style of jiu jitsu that was created specifically for that. It addresses the distances at which you can hurt and BE HURT and makes you effective at that specific game. This is very important because I don’t want my sport JJ bros and broettes to get out there and get their teeth knocked out because they fought someone even remotely like they would roll in the gym with an untrained white belt. It’s NOT the same - because the white belt is now punching every chance he gets.
How long you been training? And which accomplished BJJ sports athletes have you seen beaten in a fight? I'm honestly curious to both questions.
Chewjitsu I’ve been training bjj for 18 years. You are superior to me but I am speaking on this topic from experience and playing witness to countless examples surrounding me. Marcelo García got smashed in a fight. But in the big picture this doesn’t matter chewy - because these guys are great ATHLETES so of course they are going to do just fine in a fight just like a professional soccer player or professional football player will be just fine in a fight. What REALLY matters is if your student pink shirt got into a fight, would you rather him play his sport jiu jitsu game with them and figure out the punches on the spot or would you rather him have spent countless hours training in those distances where punches happen and drilling how to fill those spaces or how to remove that slack etc - would you rather him KNOW he’s prepared for punches after practicing defending punches and dealing with opponents who have no other goal but to hit their face with their hands? Again, if you aren’t comfortable with strikes in a combat scenario then being INSIDE the fight is not when you want to find that out.
I really dig how you're open and an everyman. I need to buy a shirt.
remember guys, this isn't rocket doctor 4:21
:D
For self defense you should never pull guard, I come from a wrestling back ground and I never pull guard so if I am ever in a real situation my muscle memory never fails me puling guard, I find people who do sport jujitsu almost always pull guard.
My gym where i trained i got promoted to blue belt 2 weeks ago but prof had no blue belts so had to use another students belt for the pic he takes, but he promoted another student to blue and he had a belt a few days after i was promoted and im still waiting for my belt needless to say i have quit thats a Gracie Barra gym for you
Follow the howl not me anymore I’m £70 a month better off 😂 and I think you missed the point
Follow the howl yep your missing the point bye bye 👋🏻
I usually like the advice given here, but this is not a good message. The reasons being are that 1) most schools don't teach the fundamentals or the basics anymore that would actually translate to a real fight; and 2) you can't just turn on a self-defense mindset when all you practice is sport jiu-jitsu unless you practice both on a regular basis. Seriously, the schools here in southern California, which is supposed to be a mecca of jiu-jitsu, more often than not teach jiu-jitsu for competition first and foremost. I can tell you first hand that most of this stuff that I'm learning in class won't work on the street. I had to go out of my way to learn, in addition to what I'm learning at my school, actual, real-world self-defense from the Gracies. There is, in fact, a huge difference between sport and self-defense. Even Firas Zahabi recognizes this and insists on universal jiu-jitsu, which is techniques that work in all environments. I think it's irresponsible to suggest that learning sport jiu-jitsu will be enough to handle yourself in a street fight - it's a completely different mindset that most sport practitioners will not have and will not realize so until they're getting punched in the face. Maybe a world champ sport practitioner can handle himself, but that's the exception and not the rule. What about when a white belt or blue belt needs to defend himself? He's going to be in a world of trouble. Most schools do not prepare you for the possibility of head-butts while someone is in your guard, for instance. Just look at the old Gracie Challenges and early UFCs - sport jiu-jitsu would not help you nor could someone, on the fly, suddenly change his game from sport to self-defense unless he's drilled it and practiced it many times, which most schools do not teach.
Chewy you should know better fighting and sport is two different things, period.