I watched this at 5am and got so nostalgic. The fact that most of these people are coming from dead arcades and still rep them almost made me cry (probably also because of insomnia).
Thing to note about meter gain in genei jin combos, there's such thing as meter scaling. Doing a full combo optimized for damage will often not net you that much meter, maybe a sliver but usually nothing too substantial. However, this meter scaling can be reset by doing, well... resets. These resets don't actually reset damage scaling, making it a preference whether or not you want to build a ton of meter or optimize for damage. If you notice in the first game they were doing a bunch of resets, some of them because of preference, but some of them because of bad starters. Usually bad starters or generally high scaling starters will not get you any substantial reward for finishing the combo, sometimes you can get good damage off bad starters if you optimize correctly but in a good amount of cases you won't get that much for finishing the combo. This is where resets are useful, because where usually you'd be trading off damage for a lot of meter, using a reset is actually optimal because the damage you'd get for doing a true combo is about the same as it is for just resetting for meter. The only downside for these resets is they have the ability to air parry when in this reset state, so they can still guess their way out of it, just that it's extremely hard because of the amount of ways Yun can mix up his timing.
the combo afterwards does absolutely not *guarantee* 50%. It depends on the scaling and the ender. You can do a tricky reset to have really low scaling but then it's objectively not guaranteed. And the quality of the ender depends on who you are juggling.
About Yang and his supers: In a vacuum sa3 (sei-ei enbu) is one of the best supers in the game (or at least Yang’s best super) but because ex mantis slashes is so character defining and sa3 holds literally one ex move it’s rare to see Yangs use it. Sa1 is a plus on block reversal (+1 iirc) but it’s an easy parry and only one bar so yknow. Sa2 is lowkey pretty bad but because it’s two long bars (so lots of ex) it takes priority over his other supers.
I don’t get how old heads can see games like this and with a straight face say that old games aren’t fucked up, I love 3s a lot but man characters can do fucked up stuff you just don’t see in new games
Hard agree with Sajam in that people LOVE watching Makoto and even playing her is really fun, but playing AGAINST her is so annoying. I think she made my friends quit 3S, lol
SF3 Tourneys are pretty sick, even with Yun and Chun trying to put us to sleep, there's always some craziness happening, specially once a Mid or Low Tier shows up
If there was one big change in SFIII I'd like is change to everyone's supers. It such a waste that almost every character has 1 super that's leagues above the others.
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Thanks obama
Yes we can
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
I love seeing Makoto punch people.
Dude, same. I'd really love to see her in SF6.
Same
most based magical girl
HELL YEAH BROTHER
I watched this at 5am and got so nostalgic. The fact that most of these people are coming from dead arcades and still rep them almost made me cry (probably also because of insomnia).
God I love Co-op Cup. I wish the West had team-tournaments. They're so awesome
I hope it might be more encouraged with the team mode in sf6
Bronson used to run Strongstyle - you can find it on Spooky’s channel
Hoping that the sf6 twitch rivals tournament will become a regular thing. People seemed to dig the team format
As a Makoto main, this tournament was sick. 3S in general is amazing to watch. Thanks, Obama and (noted Q hater) Sajam.
28:59 This is a very fun tournament to watch but learning that Sajam thinks Tahm kench is cool brought a smile to my face :)
as a tahm kench player i lost some respect
As a former SoCal kid randomly seeing a Misfits hoodie at a FG tournament hosted on the other side of the world will never not be kind of amazing.
Chain Reaction vibes
Co-op Cup makes me remember why I love fighting games, its just pure love
Third Strike is the only fighting game I’ve ever seen where Japanese players pop off like Americans
This is great, for some reason I was under the impression Sajam wasn’t very into 3rd Strike, but his knowledge is in check, love to see it.
Looks like the best fighting game ever made to me :)
Dropped a sub for my man obama, ty for reminding me. coop cup is one of my fav tournies of the year
My takeaway from this is yun do be building meter
I really like how kopun played his Ibuki
Ibuki is so cool in 3s. I wasn’t a fan of her schoolgirl design in 5.
I wanna visit Makoto's dojo in SF6. Bring her back Capcom you cowards!
Thing to note about meter gain in genei jin combos, there's such thing as meter scaling. Doing a full combo optimized for damage will often not net you that much meter, maybe a sliver but usually nothing too substantial. However, this meter scaling can be reset by doing, well... resets. These resets don't actually reset damage scaling, making it a preference whether or not you want to build a ton of meter or optimize for damage. If you notice in the first game they were doing a bunch of resets, some of them because of preference, but some of them because of bad starters. Usually bad starters or generally high scaling starters will not get you any substantial reward for finishing the combo, sometimes you can get good damage off bad starters if you optimize correctly but in a good amount of cases you won't get that much for finishing the combo. This is where resets are useful, because where usually you'd be trading off damage for a lot of meter, using a reset is actually optimal because the damage you'd get for doing a true combo is about the same as it is for just resetting for meter. The only downside for these resets is they have the ability to air parry when in this reset state, so they can still guess their way out of it, just that it's extremely hard because of the amount of ways Yun can mix up his timing.
I miss Makoto man. Played so much of her in 4. There isn't a character quite like her in all of SF.
Hope team tournaments get more popular in the US
Genei jin doesn't build meter, its the combo afterwards that guarantees 50% back. And thanks Obama.
Yeah, genei jin is the scientist. The part that builds meter is genei Jin's monster.
@@kirbybim3684 that's a godlike analogy
the combo afterwards does absolutely not *guarantee* 50%. It depends on the scaling and the ender. You can do a tricky reset to have really low scaling but then it's objectively not guaranteed. And the quality of the ender depends on who you are juggling.
Yeah that's exactly what he says
@@NotLuigi If you are replying to me then you didn't understand at least one of the comments
About Yang and his supers:
In a vacuum sa3 (sei-ei enbu) is one of the best supers in the game (or at least Yang’s best super) but because ex mantis slashes is so character defining and sa3 holds literally one ex move it’s rare to see Yangs use it.
Sa1 is a plus on block reversal (+1 iirc) but it’s an easy parry and only one bar so yknow.
Sa2 is lowkey pretty bad but because it’s two long bars (so lots of ex) it takes priority over his other supers.
Lucifer is Pierrot? he's the inspiration for all Remy players!
I don’t get how old heads can see games like this and with a straight face say that old games aren’t fucked up, I love 3s a lot but man characters can do fucked up stuff you just don’t see in new games
the Yang gang came through, love to see it
1:45:43 high level match
59:31 this back to back interaction from both the twins so awesome here
37:00 "You know what he's gonna do? He's gonna give Gouki a command grab"
Hard agree with Sajam in that people LOVE watching Makoto and even playing her is really fun, but playing AGAINST her is so annoying. I think she made my friends quit 3S, lol
55:30 Nice Yang Parry
The "Generation of Miracles" name is sick, I love Kuroko no Basket references
Uhhhhhhh… We’re GONNA PLAY SOME THIRD STRIKE
-Obama
Ohh I never thought about the super priority for Geni jin
Exactly, whenever I see a power bomb, i automatically say 'The Bautista Bomb'
8:34 only a Ken player lmao.
Just watched the very first game how is there already 5 genei jins
how is that possible 36:40
Poor Remy.
Miss my boy
1:12:24 Koudai GODLIKE
this is the best video you ever made, 3s
SF3 Tourneys are pretty sick, even with Yun and Chun trying to put us to sleep, there's always some craziness happening, specially once a Mid or Low Tier shows up
the one thing i cant understand is how is mimora so fucking good?
KO, BOSS, and Otayado Yangs were INSANE too
I know that a game will never be perfectly balanced, but man I'd love watching this game so much more with some damage nerfs to Chun and Yun.
Common Obama W
So nice to see this. Been tired of watching sfV 😂
Yang is the best in this game btw. So he is top top tier
If there was one big change in SFIII I'd like is change to everyone's supers. It such a waste that almost every character has 1 super that's leagues above the others.
mimora is cluch
Really? All that crap is what makes this the best sf ever? This is boring to watch...