Me taking notes: "uh huh. Okay, so grab while crouched. Uh-huh. Okay, so press them within a frame together, while crouching, Everytime I want to option select a grab counter. Hmm, not sure I can do that accurately like... 99% of the time, but okay... ... So you can do this when jumping or something.... Plinking, that'll be unlikely to work for me... Oh, sweep them. Yeah, I'll sweep them."
Basically a year later and I'm finally hitting this in training after trying it again. What really helps me is keeping in mind that its your up-back input that has to line up with their throw, not your button press. Pretty obvious, I know, but it's helped a lot.
I used to do this in SF4 with Hugo's H.clap against Abel's roll Command Grab as a hard read because EX SPD didn't have any throw invincibility for whatever reason.
I feel like watching these pro EDM music producers explaining how they create new sounds by cabling all their weird devices, i don't understand shit but it looks cool af
Man Im glad your still around. I watched you a ton in the Gen days. Basically have you to thank for mk hands. Changed my game completely and here you are again.
BRROOooo! This is so cool! I remember i started learning Hugo while on keyboard, and having a whole month just trying to get wrap my head around on how to do 360s. I eventually go it, but until i got there, ultra throw was my go to for most situations but i sucked that it wasnt throw invul.... Guess it now can be :). Thanks Matt!
As a pad player, I probably won't be doing much plinking but YO... I love me some Hugo and this got me EXITED! Training LUA here I come!!! Thanks for the sick tech bro!!!
I’m so impressed with the progression of your videos man! Been following since SFL and your one of your older vids helped me learn tachigigas. Stoked to find all your new content binging / liking them all 👍👍
Well demonstrated video, I seem to remember you mentioning that you like using the pre jump frame tech in the Makoto matchup specifically. Makes sense considering punishing her dash throw and karakusa is probably a more common scenario. I'm sure Makoto and Q love using this due to the reward they get off of their command grabs comparitively.
It's really good against Makoto's command grab but it's harder to do because she has more active frames on her command grabs (4 I think). But you can jump cancel punish them with HP Clap
I understand this, yet my level as a pad user on top of that is nowhere near high enough to be able to effectively use this technique. But aside from that, this is so high level it’s insane.
Can't use ultra throw because you're locked into the QCB input from palm...sounds a lot like not being able to b+MP ~ HCB+K with Q for the kara command grab. I wonder if the weird kara command grab input applies here.
@@JiBbo I've seen a whiff too many times from people that tried grabbing ysb,as for hayao ,he talked about it in his special,he said he had an option select that has something to do with a super jump ,it was tokura who asked why his anti grab was so spot on.also TM's Q has one using normal crouch to st MK to super that he abuses alot, As a urien player ,this trick negate alit of my offense.weird that you hammock don't belong to the inner circle of what I call "gamespot" cult and still knows alot of tips on SF3,are you a hidden gamespot tourneys attendee?
I know I'm never going to pull this out but it's so cool to see the character still developing after so much time
Me taking notes: "uh huh. Okay, so grab while crouched. Uh-huh. Okay, so press them within a frame together, while crouching, Everytime I want to option select a grab counter. Hmm, not sure I can do that accurately like... 99% of the time, but okay...
... So you can do this when jumping or something.... Plinking, that'll be unlikely to work for me... Oh, sweep them. Yeah, I'll sweep them."
This tech has existed for decades
@@Wanderer-lj1gt dude this comment is from 2 years ago, I don't even know what piece of tech I was referring to
@@__aythami It's a video about SJC grab. Super jump cancel grab
Basically a year later and I'm finally hitting this in training after trying it again. What really helps me is keeping in mind that its your up-back input that has to line up with their throw, not your button press. Pretty obvious, I know, but it's helped a lot.
Congrats!
I used to do this in SF4 with Hugo's H.clap against Abel's roll Command Grab as a hard read because EX SPD didn't have any throw invincibility for whatever reason.
This tech has existed for a very long time
Super jump cancel the like and subscribe button will ya
I feel like watching these pro EDM music producers explaining how they create new sounds by cabling all their weird devices, i don't understand shit but it looks cool af
Man Im glad your still around. I watched you a ton in the Gen days. Basically have you to thank for mk hands. Changed my game completely and here you are again.
More on the way!
The oooooh yeah at the end seals it
Yea I remember seeing kuroda doing sjc command grab with Q on defense. Cool application for hugo with either palm or ultra throw.
BRROOooo! This is so cool!
I remember i started learning Hugo while on keyboard, and having a whole month just trying to get wrap my head around on how to do 360s. I eventually go it, but until i got there, ultra throw was my go to for most situations but i sucked that it wasnt throw invul....
Guess it now can be :). Thanks Matt!
my timer says 7:20 total u got it
Add another 720 to the list!
As a pad player, I probably won't be doing much plinking but YO... I love me some Hugo and this got me EXITED! Training LUA here I come!!! Thanks for the sick tech bro!!!
thats why i struggle with throwing good Hugo players... big thx !
This Hugo tech is invaluable thanks!
I know Alex players do this with Flash Chop, I just never thought to apply the same logic to Hugo
Jump cancel flash chop into stun gun is sick! SA2 is still the best tho
I’m so impressed with the progression of your videos man! Been following since SFL and your one of your older vids helped me learn tachigigas. Stoked to find all your new content binging / liking them all 👍👍
Wow awesome tech!
its so cool that gief players are doing this exact thing in sf6 now
fantastic video
Well demonstrated video, I seem to remember you mentioning that you like using the pre jump frame tech in the Makoto matchup specifically. Makes sense considering punishing her dash throw and karakusa is probably a more common scenario. I'm sure Makoto and Q love using this due to the reward they get off of their command grabs comparitively.
It's really good against Makoto's command grab but it's harder to do because she has more active frames on her command grabs (4 I think). But you can jump cancel punish them with HP Clap
Good work well done
6:47 - nasty af
why is ken peter gazing so hard in this video? lol
Really well explained, I'll regret showing this to my friends that do play Hugo :)
PS: Got any good secret Ken tech?
eins.... zwei... DREI... dood!
I understand this, yet my level as a pad user on top of that is nowhere near high enough to be able to effectively use this technique.
But aside from that, this is so high level it’s insane.
Can't use ultra throw because you're locked into the QCB input from palm...sounds a lot like not being able to b+MP ~ HCB+K with Q for the kara command grab. I wonder if the weird kara command grab input applies here.
Nah you can, because palm is punch and ultra throw is kick. This is why I plink Kick to Punch and not the necessarily the other way around
I'm sure hayao and yes knows these tricks
Why are you sure?
@@JiBbo I've seen a whiff too many times from people that tried grabbing ysb,as for hayao ,he talked about it in his special,he said he had an option select that has something to do with a super jump ,it was tokura who asked why his anti grab was so spot on.also TM's Q has one using normal crouch to st MK to super that he abuses alot, As a urien player ,this trick negate alit of my offense.weird that you hammock don't belong to the inner circle of what I call "gamespot" cult and still knows alot of tips on SF3,are you a hidden gamespot tourneys attendee?
thankyou for your share,can you teach about standing 720?as lp into720,leadattack into 720...
What are you playing on where you see frame data and inputs? Fightcade?
I also want to know this
Oh great more Hugo shit to worry about. 😔
Hugo is an honest low mid tier 👌
@@JiBbo yea til he's clapping your existence away.
Hello, i am new to SF3.3
But your 3 white buttons you have upwards, and the low one are for wich input ?
It's a Hitbox Crossup. Top three are left, down, and right and the bottom button is up.
@@Audriolendidnt understand XD
Hugo and Ken have the same health?? That seems wrong