The Last Leg Rip Into Antivaxxers | The Last Leg
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- Adam, Josh, and Alex, and guests Judi Love and Jon Richardson, discuss vaccine mandates, Nicki Minaj, and whether unvaxxed sperm is the new bitcoin.
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I think it was Ben Goldacre who was quoted as saying "This is Dr. Gillian McKeith, PhD - or, to give her full medical title, 'Gillian McKeith'"
Sounds like something I heard in a Dara O'Briain skit.
@@rimmersbryggeri Yes! It was during one of his concerts. And I'm sure it also has the routine about the neutrinos evolving, and it ends with a bossa nova and Dara dancing in a Spanish dress shirt
@@rimmersbryggeri I'm sure he's made mention of her and her dubious claims too, while ragging on Homeopathy and other rubbish!
@@jonathonrobinson6081 I have only seen it in clip format. Its about quackery in general
I think the quote was This is Gillian McKieth or, to give her full medical title, 'Gillian McKeith'
This hasn't aged well.
Ha ha I came here for a quick little catch up after yesterday's news heh heh heh .
@@HulaBeulah
What happened on the news 2 months ago that changed things?
I love Jon Richardson
Thought the comment section would be a minefield. Not disappointed.
Well, if people are going to comedians for medical advice, you can't expect them to be very bright.
@@TheToledoTrumpton I don't think people are seeking medical advice from comedians (in general or here). I do feel commentary (comedic or otherwise) is allowed and needed though. Also, there are some very informed and intelligent comedians out there, often seemingly more so than certain world leaders that people put so much faith in...
@@hoebywan I assure you, I don't put a lot of faith in world leaders to give medical advice either.
My comment wasn't a criticism of the intelligence of comedians, but of the people going to the comedians. The curse of the ambiguous transitive verb.
@@TheToledoTrumpton Cool. I understand. It was hard to tell where you were going initially. 👍
@@TheToledoTrumpton Who is going to comedians for medical advice? But if the advice given is either to go see a doctor or is exactly what the doctors are saying, then what's the problem?
I love how Josh keeps pushing "Brooker's Level" as the standard of hilarity because it's pretty much my level.
Fish look shocked enough
And now I need to watch Johnny Vegas again...
I did as soon as I typed that 😅 Not sure how many times I've seen that now
Balls deep, he was!
In carp!
So weird seeing Josh with straight hair
I lost it at the "You are what you eat." Comment.
What happened to those TH-cam videos explaining that the vaccine was halal? They were very informative and helped to reduce resistance to vaccinations.
Ah Gillian McKeith, the hilarious memories of her refusing to do challenges on I’m a Celebrity.
Hah! Thank you! I was having trouble placing the name!
'Gillian McKeith, or, to give her her full medical title, Gillian McKeith' - Ben Goldacre
I’ve never been more proud of Nadine Coyle making fun of her than I am now.
I'm in Australia, was she the one that had the hilarious fake pass out?
@@elenawilliams32 yes. The one who looked at poo and made up her qualifications
Gillian McKeith - the ultimate waste of space.
We don't get this programme in New Zealand so I'm curious as to the social distancing on stage but not for the audience, could someone explain?
No. Nobody can explain. Just like all the other bullshit surrounding this virus, everything is self-contradictory and lacking in common sense. Vaccinated people still carry and transmit the virus so I don’t understand the premises of some of their arguments. If the guy’s mum is vaccinated, why is he worried about unvaccinated people coming to his house? I guess the show is supposed to be funny but...
They are terrified of catching COVID from vaccinated people, so they have social distancing and mock other people for not being vaccinated like they are.
I hope that clears that up.
It's called setting an example.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 but Jonathon, should the producers of the show not also be trying to set the same example with the audience by implementing social distancing?
@@oisinneary54 Why would they when only provably vaccinated people are allowed in the audience?
People who’ve never lived under tyranny shouting “tyranny”
People looking at Australia's tyranny and shouting 'nah, it's just a (permananent) holiday camp'!!
@@annother3350 I live in Australia, I’m not even wearing a mask let alone living in tyranny
@@itookallthenames Not all of australia yet -- but if you're not worried about the quarantine camps they're building more and more of I'd say you're fully in denial
@@annother3350 haha rubbish
@@itookallthenames The army are physically removing people from the Binjari region to jab or quarantine them. You need to wake the flip up to tyranny
I don't care if you lot have careers in the media.... seriously you need to leave FB.... myself and everyone I know left FB about 3 years ago. It's over, it's toxic and it's meaningless.
Agreed, in the most part. Research has shown that the algorithms in facebook (however accidentally) reward the spreading of false information, inflammatory remarks and hate.
I left FB about 18 months ago and I don't miss it at all....why? because I can keep in touch with my friends through Instagram instead 👍🏻
It's okay. We have a completely different type of FB here in The States. But you're gonna have to remove the nets and put up crossbars. However, I can't speak to its toxicity.
@@devononair It will be because those were the posts getting most activity and that is what is needed. When your income relies on activity and your activity relies on abuse and misinformation, you popularize these attributes.
I work with data, not at FB, in fact one of my roles was school equivilant when the FB rules meant you couldn't legally have an account at school age.
Meant I automated a lot of mediation which was fun. It's interesting to see how creative people can be over banned words and expressions, and even more interesting when some of those are perfectly acceptable in set environments. Sexual commentary in a math chatroom, not good, inhuman biology reproduction area OK as lon as kept scientific not personal.
I don't use facebook, never have. Working in IT for a 'few' years and havve the same number of friends in social media as in real life 0.
@@martinbootneck you know IG is owned by FB, right?
Don’t you love all the pissed off antivaxxers here 🤣
We'll have the last laugh. Good luck with that blood clot!;
@@annother3350 Well 3 vaxxines down and no blood clot. Good luck with COVID lung.
Genuinely I hope you do get vaccinated to protect yourself and others around you. I don't know you and while I am hardly saintly I don't wish strangers ill.
One of my forner colleagues has COVID lung, following having COVID of course. He was someone who has faced a lot of adversity in life bt was still one of the most positive peole I knew. He went from being able to take a 5 mile walk totally in his stride to needing to stop halfway up the steps each time. Hearing him say he often wishes COVID had killed him was heartbreaking, not because he means that much to me but because it shows how much it destroyed his life to have taken his positivity.
The vaccine isn't complete guaranteed protection, but it's a lot better than presuming safety.
@@KermitFrogThe The jab my friends mum a stroke and another friend had terrible side effects for a week. I'll take my chances with my immune system thanks.
That's weird. I thought the video was about pissed off pro vaxxers trying to cover it up by laughing.
@@annother3350 Have fun with that blood clot that you are more likely to get from covid than the vaccine. And please, let the doctors know that you are completely against medical treatment, other people need it more than you.
All backtracking now though aren't you!!!!
Just wondering: Why are the guests socially distanced but the audience not and no one is wearing a mask in the audience? 33 000 new cases in a day in the UK is making more sense now...Mask wearing is still mandatory in South Africa and we 've had far less new cases per day (okay, the numbers are rising, but they are nowhere near 33k). Masks seem to help!
No joke. This seems so stupid
@@squidge903 The audience didn't have to because - get this - there is no mask mandate!
Theatre. Shallow effort to show they "care". 🤮
@@theginganaut9254 Don't you have a dumber take?
@@theginganaut9254 COVID passports, vaxx certs, have been socially distanced, etc. They are not at YOUR level of fuckwittery!
Why are they sat so far apart when the audience is crammed in?
Because they are all vaccinated, and so they are terrified of getting close to other vaccinated people , because they don't believe a word of what they are saying.
@@stevencarr4002 Or you're talking out of your ass
@@bruceyboy7349 You are right. They are all sitting so far apart because they didn't have a shower, so they smell bad. Clever of you to spot that.
@@stevencarr4002 What a piss poor attempt at a response.
Because under this tyrannical government, the public are free to make their own choices and the cast chose to distance?
I can understand that when reality tends to f*ck with the narrative you've chosen to follow, it can be confusing.
I think a mandate to be vaccinated is wrong, not in this instance but as a rule. But I do think make life a living hell for people who don't by mandating testing every other moment until they yield
Also consider _No vax = No treatment_ If you have refused a vax and then catch it, you get no treatment for the thing that you believe doesn't exist.
@@jaxkovak And you're placed in isolation until you recover or die to protect everyone else.
@@jaxkovak that's going a bit far, and you also won't get doctors to agree to refusing treatment.
What I would strongly argue for is that in countries like the UK, Aus, Can, etc. where government funded healthcare systems are in place, for anybody unvaxxed that subsequently needs covid treatment, they pay full price, out of their own pockets.
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 I agree with you, except in the case of people who, due to medical reason, are not vaccinated.
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 Seems like a reasonable compromise.
The comment section is just all triggered to lay down the smackdown on each other. I might get popcorn. Whatever your views are. Fine with me. Funnier then the show itself.
science cannot lie, scientists can (and yes im fully aware all you people out there will try and put me in my place but i will say in advance, i could not give less of a shit about you aggressively voicing your (wrong) opinions)
Cool. So what?
Nobody can give less of a shit about you voicing your wrong opinion, either.
Personal choice - as long as it coincides with ours.
Personal choice as long as you don't interfere on other people's personal choice to avoid all risks of the virus. Don't get vaccinated if you don't want to but don't go out there spreading the virus to other people.
@@KateHornby I am fully vaccinated and boosted.
This does not exclude me from seeing the inherent tyranny of vaccine mandates.
@@scubasmog If tyranny was this good then there wouldn't be a problem with tyranny.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 please read the comment. It clearly refers to the very specific field of vaccine mandates. I have no problem with the vaccine. My issue is with mandated behaviour.
@@scubasmog Imagine thinking tyranny only applies to one very narrow and specific aspect of a system in society. My comment still stands, but you just continue to make yourself look like a snowflake that is following all the other "freedom is tyranny" sheep.
Why are so many professional athletes collapsing all over the world? And people in the crowd too, another one today in league 1.
They aren’t?
@@MrChiddler misinformed or in denial?
You are clearly both.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 wow, reply deleted, SHILL ALERT! 📢🚨📢
Well done outing yourself.
2:47 Vaccination's gotten Jon's hair back.
These comments omfg 🤦♀️ I’m losing hope
A lot of them are Russian trolls being paid to spread dissent.
What are you excepting? Hold hands? lmao.
Remember when comics used to be funny
Like it was yesterday!
Any example?
@@openquin1 Sure, Jon Richardson made me laugh yesterday. Joking about antivaxxers.
I never watch new British comedies, not since the IT Crowd ended.
Don't despair, there are lots of great and funny American comedians. Comedy is alive and thriving there.
Check out Shane Gillis, Mark Normand, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle, etc etc.
This is comedy only on a technicality. It's for vanilla-brained middle-upper class tossers.
It's the same people that despaired when "My Family" mysteriously ended after 23 seasons.
Riddle me this:-
Why do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that didn't protect the protected?
🤔
A number of people cannot built protection and rely on everybody else to choose protection
Because viruses by their survival instincts will mutate...therefore you have different variants - it's evolving to survive. People who deny evolution, just need to look at viruses - that's evolution in action.
Because there are people who are genuinely unable to get the vaccine and there such things as variants that could develop vaccine resistance if allowed to spread unopposed by the unvaccinated. So by not getting a perfectly safe and quick vaccine, the unvaccinated are putting those genuinely unable to get the vaccine at unnecessary risk from a deadly virus and also putting everyone else at risk by allowing the deadly virus to spread and therefore mutate and therefore increasing the risk of vaccine resistant variants which will put us all back to square one. That means back to full scale lockdowns, a broken health service and even more people dying, all because you guys want to pretend you're being oppressed by being told to do the literal bare minimum to help society.
Does that about answer your utterly asinine question?
Because anti-vaxxers need to be lined up against a wall.
Protects people who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons.
Lessens likelihood of the mutation of a vaccine resistant strain.
There. Not that hard, was it? Still, I doubt it'll stop you asking again tomorrow. Prat.
Even at the time this felt wrong. History will not shine a favourable light on these presenters. “Them and us” never looks good. Embarrassing!
So just have a look how scripted this show is. Notice how Adam brings up Nicki Minaj's cousin, and immediately Josh jumps in to make a joke. In a normal conversation Adan would have return to the subject to finished his point, but he goes straight on to another subject. Every bit of this off this tedious show is tightly rehearsed!
and your point is? are you trying to say this has something to do with being pro-vaccination?
@@JBG-AjaxzeMedia My point is the show is fucking awful
@@richiekew3664 So you admit you are just trolling. So long, chump.
@@jonathonrobinson6081I'm not trolling. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in a bad tv show.
@@richiekew3664 Calling the show awful is not a critique, it's a conclusion. How many series has it been running for? Stop trolling.
All those vaccinated comedians sitting so far apart, because they are terrified of getting COVID from other vaccinated comedians.
Pure comedy gold! They don't believe one single word of what they are saying about vaccinations.
You can read minds? So why are you here instead of finding out all the dark secrets of world leaders and blackmailing them for all the money?
HEART ATTACKS FOR EVERYONE!!!
If your mom is vaccinated and I'm not then why would you be worried?🤔
She'll be fine seeing she's vaccinated.
There is nothing funnier than a confident fool. Thanks for the larf
@@jonathonrobinson6081 dork much?
@@byronbunny8488 I wouldn't have called you as such but sure, I won't argue against your self-identification.
I’ve been vaccinated and have had covid after my jabs and I’m booking the booster asap but I’m still a believer in freedom of choice. Slippery slope when we take that away.
You have freedom of choice to murder someone taken away, is that a slippery slope? You have freedom of choice to enslave someone taken away, is that a slippery slope? You have freedom of choice to rape someone taken away, is that a slippery slope? The slippery slope fallacy is fallacious.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Is there any level to which you won't stoop? Seriously twisted.
@@fuckamericanidiot Displaying the logical inconsistency of the slippery slope fallacy is stooping to a low level? No wonder you are so confused over the whole vaccine business, you don't even know how to think straight.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Your examples are all about a person's 'right' to being able to take away someone elses bodily rights or freedoms (right to live, right to freedom, right to say no), which is completely ridiculous. What the OP is talking about is an individuals own right to choose to get vaccinated being taken away. Nobody has a right to murder, enslave, or rape. It's pretty disgusting that your thought process even tried to compare them...
@@jonathonrobinson6081 What he said. You actually conflated rape and murder, with NOT getting medical treatment for a disease. You're a curious and very sad creature.
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The hosts... brain washed....
Says the guy that is brainwashed.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Says the guy who tells someone that guy is brainwashed. TL;DR
@@thebenosrises Go find an adult and ask them for help writing that sentence.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
@@thebenosrises You anti-vaxxers are all the same.
Is that a thalidomide laughing about people being against forced/coerced scantily tested medication? The fu*king irony 😂
Vaccines have been used for over 100 years. Being dumb enough to think a medicine that has been used for over 100 years is scantily tested is unbelievable in this day and age.
Thalidomide wasn't a vaccine. And this is now the highest tested vaccine of all time. Don't let facts get in the way eh...
@@jonathonrobinson6081 And represent the biggest medical disaster to date.
@@AngelaRyanXX No, vaccines represent the greatest medical advance to date.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 No, that's the marketing slogan. Reality says otherwise.
Very original
Not really. Idiots have existed forever, and they have always been good comedic material.
Why is everyone sitting so far apart?
Are you thick?
That's a good point. If they all are all vaccinated why is it still necessary to keep a distance? If the government say the vaccinated are safe why are they so afraid they are going catch it off of someone who is unvaccinated? By the government's own reasoning it's only unvaccinated people who are a risk to themselves and other unvaccinated. Perhaps just don't cough at people, respect personal space and don't go round licking strangers unless they are vaccinated and vow not to press charges? Never thought Covid would be the new Brexit. We need something equally boring to dominate comedy and the entire media to take over from Covid now.
@@justinegoff because they have a responsibility to set a good example. Until COVID is under control and the significant majority of the population are vaccinated, additional measures need to be taken to protect those who can’t get vaccinated for whatever reason. Just like you do when the NORO virus does the rounds, or when you have flu. You either stay home or you stay away from people.
@@SoDefCallidus maybe the audience wish that good example extended to them. Can't be pleasant all huddled together regardless of Covid passports or negative test results.
@@SoDefCallidus Gibraltar has 100% vaxxed and they are getting very poorly
Well see……… you watch………..
*We'll see... My vaccine must have made me a bit smarter too...
Another anti-vaxxer wringing their hands in anticipation of people dying, while saying all they care about is people not dying. You lot are sick in the head.
To me its like drinking coffee
Some of us need it but most of us dont.
Why force the strong to adapt to the weak?
Because the strong are too dense to realise that being strong does not matter against a disease.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 covid has a 1% mortality rate, meaning 99% of those infected are strong enough to survive.
The strong will survive the desease without masks and vaccines but are expected to be injected for the "safety" of the weak.
Natural immunity is stronger than the vaccine but not profitable to the pharmaceutical industry.
@@swskitso Why are there so many people who say that? The maths isn't so hard that you cannot work out that the mortality rate is higher than that, and higher still in places where they get overwhelmed by patients. And even if your faulty maths was correct, it means that 99% of the population needed some sort of medical intervention to not become deathly ill. Again, strength has nothing to do with it. Natural immunity is not better than protection you get from the vaccine, AND it is safer to get immunity from the vaccine than the virus.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Being strong doesn't defend you against a disease? Wow. The vast majority of people who die from Covid are either very old or very sick? And what do they have in common? Weak immune systems.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 In the UK, 145000 people have reportedly died because of catching Covid. Over 10 million cases of Covid have been recorded. That's 1.45%.
All cases of death by Covid are recorded.
But are all cases of people catching Covid recorded? Hell no. It could be ten times more than 10 million, because millions of people don't get sick from it and have symptomless Covid, so they have no idea they are sick and therefore never report it.
Which means the mortality rate amongst people with Covid is less than 1%.
Well THE LAST LEG I will NEVER WATCH YOUR PROGRAM EVER AGAIN, BOYCOTT THESE COWARDS AND THEIR CAREERS!!!!
No one cares.
2 children, 2 children, 2 children, 1 child. Imagine paying attention to people who think it's ok to bring a human being into existence without its consent. Pfffft, pathetic.
Why are these sheeple worried if they are vaccinated ???
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Why do sheep like you worry if you aren't vaccinated?
@@jonathonrobinson6081 im not worried thanks.
No jab no worries.
@@carlmumba1300 But here you are expressing your worry.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 im not worried at all.
Enjoying my life to the full thanks.
@@carlmumba1300 And yet here you are expressing your worry.
I wonder if it's the same "scientists" that think people are changing the climate of the Earth. This is unintentionally fucking hilarious.
What's hilarious is people like you wearing their ignorance like a badge of honour.
@ you: How does someone as non-sentient like you manages to breathe unaided? 🤪🤡🤦♀
@@TerraPosse What does sentience have to do with breathing? Do you sleep on life support?
@@fuckamericanidiot LMAO! You don't even know what sentience is do you?
@@jonathonrobinson6081 You don't need to be self-aware to breathe. Unless you have sleep apnea.
I don't normally like this show as it's extremely left-wing; however, on this particular subject, I did find that clip quite amusing.
If you've seen the effects of government policy on people with disabilities you'd be very left wing afterward. There's no way anyone in good concscience good support the austerity agenda and cuts to social care.
They were as critical of Corbyn as they are of the Tories.
People with disabilities won't support a government that doesn't support them. Right wing values are at odds with moralistic societal decency.
Tory boy Rhys here😂😂..have your butler change your channel ..spiffing what!..
" left wing" =demonstrably correct about most important issues.
@@johnmunro4952 Left wing = opinions backed by evidence.
Right wing = Opinions backed by emotions or greed.
Prats
Yes you are.
ONE QUESTION: PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY SOMEONE WHO HAD COVID SHOULD GET VAXXED? NATURAL IMMUNITY IS BETTER THAN THE VAX (ACCORDING TO THE ISRAELI STUDY AND MANY MORE)
COVID is unusual here. Bear with me I am a nerd so while I hate the topic, I enjoy learning this stuff.
Ordinarily you would be spot on. When a brand new infection comes into the body the immune system doesn't just adapt to protect against that infection but others of it's type, the variants. So if you get a standard cold, you will be protected against this and many other variants of the same virus.
We've had millions of years doing this and the human body is very good at it. However pretty good isn't perfect and sometimes we get it wrong, and COVID is one of those times. When you get COVID, the immunity adapts to it on a variant by variant basis, not covering any more of the spectrum than this.
So you can contract Alpha, survive it and become 80 - 85% protected from Alpha, not much less than provided by the vaccine at 85 - 95%. But if you are infected with any other variant like the faster spreading Delta this will need to be treated like a brand new infection, you will not be prefared for it.
If you catch Alpha at a time when life's good and the weather is suited to your immunity, that will have given you a better chance. If the second infeciton is Delta or one of the others and you are stressed at work, having a tough time at home and the weather has you down a bit too, the reduced health from this could mean this new infection has a more damaging impact.
This is pure chance. No-one could have predicted how the body would react to the variants of this disease. But the vaccine covers all with roughly similar effectiveness, our bodies don't.
@@KermitFrogThe very good and comprehensive answer.
@@FasihRana And the anti-vaxxer won't reply and will continue to spread their nonsense. These people are out of their minds, they cannot be reasoned with.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Again, for the slow people, I am not anti-vac. I am anti-mandate .
@@KermitFrogThe The issue with the vax is that it only produces the spike protein of the virus, and not the whole virus. It gives you some protection that reports n0w say wane after 3 months. If you have had natural immunity, you have antibodies for the complete virus, making it more robust. To state you get good viral protection is just patently incorrect and proved wrong by the percentage of vaccinated hospitalisations. For the record, I have had my other vaccinations through my life, as have my kids. We will not be taking this one. First, the survival rate is high enough that it doesn't worry us. Second, I have other mitigation resources available in case I do get infected (monoclonal antibodies) and statistically I am more likely to get COVID as a side effect of a vaccine. You will get COVID regardless of vaccine status. It's how you react to the early signs of infection that make or break how you end up.
I refuse to be jabbed by a leaky vaccine that has no long term efficacy or safety data. Especially from a company with such a bad history of harm as Pfizer or J&J.
So disgusted in you Adam Hills. You often sprout about equality, now listen to yourself. I'll never watch your programs again.
Go run and find your safe space.
Basically, you have box tickers preaching political agendas to the masses. 🤦♂️
Imagine being so cucked that you think health care is a political agenda.
I rest my case. 😂
@@badninja1971 You don't have a case, you have ignorance.
@@jonathonrobinson6081
I’m guessing you went out today with your face nappy on, after being double jabbed & posting on you social media.
“Can’t wait for my booster!” 😂
@@badninja1971 It must be so sad to be you. I would hate being wrong every single time I tried to be smart.
I am not an antivaxxer. However explain to me why one should be required to take a vaccine that is only between 60 and 90% effective for an illness with a less than 1% mortality rate?
The mortality rate for influenza or "the flu" is 4 to 7 times higher than Covid and you don't panic over that and mandate flu shots.
If you are going to repeat their obvious lies then you are obviously an anti-vaxxer.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 nothing I said was a lie.
@hoosierarcher 1. If you repeat antivaxxer lies as a way of putting doubt onto the vaccine, you are an antivaxxer. Lie number 1.
@@hoosierarcher 2. You aren't required to take a vaccine and you know it. Lie number 2.
@@hoosierarcher 3. Italy has had nearly 5 million cases of covid and over 134,000 deaths. 1% of 5 million is 50,000. Lie number 3.
I have a few questions about the covid vaccines:
1) Why are they called vaccines when they don't contain a neutralized form of the original pathogen? Changing the definition of Vaccine ad hoc didn't answer this question.
2) Since they work by making the body produce proteins, similar to the outer covering of the virus, and throwing them in the bloodstream, are these in any way toxic to the organism? Why weren't they called a treatment?
3) Why are we so eager to vaccinate the young with these experimental things if only the elderly are really at high risk with covid? Wouldn't it be better for the next generation to get natural immunity and the current elderly to practice social distancing for self protection?
4) Why are highly vaccinated countries and regions doing so bad this winter with covid? Why is more vaccines the solution, if they didn't solve the issue in the first place? Why is the whole of Africa generally ok with low incidence of covid? Literally the countries with most measures are the ones worse.
5) Why are non vaccinated targeted? We should all be free to chose our own path in life. Many more people die on bikes than on cars per number of drivers, riders, but nobody is outlawing motorcycles. The vaccinated have the same viral load as the unvaccinated and probably spread just as much.
6) Qui bono. Who profits.
7) Is there any relationship between vaccine lot numbers and mortality? Just how high is the mortality rate on the vaccines? It seems to be there, there is VAERS data and there is european data too, more people seem to have died of these vaccines than all other, combined.
8) Will the vaccines kill more young people than Covid? If yes, why proscribe them?
I'm not against vaccines as a scientific principle, I believe inoculation can, and probably has, worked many times. But ask yourselves, is the system honest and are the intentions of the people who control it good? Or to end this with one more question: Do you feel lucky punk?
Despite me being on a TH-cam comment section it will surprise you to know I’m not an expert on things I have no knowledge of, s9 I can’t really answer too much about vaccines and also as I type this your comment goes so I can’t actually see how the points you made to answer. That said though and btw I do agree with some of what you said but things like Africa for example tend to be less densely populated over places like Europe and East Asia. Also the more people get vaccinated the more they mingle and so on so the virus spreads as opposed to countries that are locking down and social distancing (no I don’t agree with lockdown but it is a fact that distancing does stop the spread of viruses).
Tbh there was definitely one other thing I knew but I’ve actually forgot what you asked so I’m buggered if I remember.
Ah yeh people dying in road accidents and again I fully agree with you however people do need to go though a lot to drive. They need to pass a theory test, pass a practical test, if they get banned in those first two years then they have to do the whole thing again. Hey have to insure their car, they have to m.o.t their vehicle p, they need different licenses to drive different vehicles. They need to obey the speed limits, they need to wear glasses if they should, they need stop stop at red lights, they need to stop at zebra crossings, they need to indicate, they need to leave so much room, they need to make sure their tyre tread is correct, they need to make sure their psi is correct, they need to make sure all their lights are working, they can’t drive with any window frosted, they can’t have any snow of the vehicle, they can’t use hand held devices. The list goes and if they get caught doing any of those then it’s fine or prison. There’s a hell of a lot regulation not just around driving but anything that involves the potential to hurt someone else.
So what are the options? Lock everyone down again and force rules and regulations like with driving or smoking or whatever or allow people who have been vaccinated to run about? I agree it’s a personal choice and tbh unvaccinated people shouldn’t be treated differently or have freedoms stripped as you’re either an anti vaxxer so will never get it or you’ve already had it so what does it matter? So I completely agree with you however I’m just pointing out that unvaccinated people aren’t being picked on as opposed to drivers who really have very little freedom whatsoever.
This will be the last one lest I delve into things I don’t know but old people can’t really just isolate or social distance on their own. Like old people have young families sooo yanno, you’re denying a little giving her nan a hug or whatever if you’re going to to that. I will say this though. Most of the people worried about a vaccine (this doesn’t include you as I’m sure you don’t) but most people worried all tend to smoke, snort cocaine, take mdma, smoke weed off some random drug dealer from Liverpool, eat heavily processed food, inject themselves with lip fillers, tanning injections and or steroids and then start having paranoid fits over what’s in a vaccine? I live with someone who smokes, I drink energy drinks and I’ve had more than the odd line so I have no right whatsoever to turn around and say I’m not getting vaccinated because I don’t know what’s in it when I probably snorting like 90% asbestos up my nose on a weekend when I was younger
@@me5969. Stupid comments from you. The question regarding vaccination is all about probabilities.
Is it likely (as some seem to believe) that the covid “thing” is all a conspiracy, perhaps by evil travellers from space, to enslave the world?
Who is mostly likely to know what’s best? Some bloke down the pub who drives a bus for a living, or people proved to be highly intelligent who have spent their working lives studying viruses and vaccines.
When you have considered the above questions you should then make your decision. To me the correct answer is bleedin’ obvious.
The countries providing vaccination data honestly also provide more testing and infection rates. So we see the higher rates of infection. Other countries like Russia are lying. Also infection rates are not mortality/severe disease numbers, they are infection numbers from testing. Vaccination saves lives.
People who watch last leg are bullied or was poor little souls... run on emotions and have no logic unfortunately
Bullied people are likely to become intelligent. They study instead of socialize.
@@zacharyseales3775 ur right they carnt socialize so why are they on my television trying so hard to socialize with the British public they obvoise out of touch and never had a chance.. they need 2 keep they liberal opinion 2 they bullied freinds it's not the real world
@@danielcarter2878 you need to go back to primary school because my 6 year old can spell better than you. They're also on my TV and I like them.
My point proven perfectly with zachary u keep watching it and il keep mocking u and them
@@danielcarter2878 couldn't care less, I'm embarrassed for you.
The irony of the disabled being prejudiced.
Yes. The irony of the disabled making fun of people who are putting the disabled people's lives at risk. What a travesty of injustice......
@@jonathonrobinson6081 is that what the news told you to believe … ?how easy the media controls the weak minded …. A certain Austria dictator used the same techniques of propaganda to convince the masses that a certain minority carried typhus sent them off to be showered …. But you wouldn’t see that coincidence would you? Because the media have told you it’s acceptable…
General rule of thumb, folks. If you compare vaccination to Nazism or the Holocaust - like Mr Gestive has just done here - it means you're an incurably ignorant simpleton.
@@TheValeyard92 you labellist how dare you 😂😂😂👌
@@jonathonrobinson6081 lol 🐑
I hope all you vaxed don't have a sook if an 'antivax' establishment refuses you entry. And I hope you all don't get side affects in the future. Good luck with your boosters.
Good luck to those businesses surviving long with the majority of the population being vaxxed at least once
Yeah none of us would want to enter your petri dish establishment thanks...
Tell me where these 'establishments' are and I'll gladly avoid them. I'm in Sydney too and will happily not frequent any business that eschews science and research and chooses not to do its best to protect everyone in the community.
I feel sorry if you really feel this way, and suggest you seek out some good, carding medical advice from a trained professional.
lol fair enough if i'm not allowed in, i couldn't give a fuck mate there's plenty of other establishments i could go to if i wanted lmao
Sorry to break it to you but they can't do tgat
Line them up
So they can shoot the anti-vaxxers hugging the wall? Sounds like a good larf!
Are these comedians? Doctors? . FO with your views
Are the antivaxxers doctors? Doesn't seem to make them STFU for five seconds either.
@@writerinprogress Even doctors dont know what the side effects will be after 2 or more years
You're neither, but I bet you feel pretty comfortable sharing your thoughts (for want of a more accurate term).
@@TheValeyard92 That's what the comment section is for -- sharing your thoughts
@@annother3350 The side effects after two years will be not getting deathly ill from covid.
I got COVID earlier in the year, even after being vaccinated. I was sick for about 4 days (imagine having the Flu, very similar), got better and sat on the sofa playing on my Playstation for the rest of my isolation period. People love to hate on "anti-vaxxers" but never mention that living a healthy lifestyle makes a huge difference. Eat right, drink plenty of water, take your vitamins and exercise regularly and you'll be fine.
You missed out on how selfish antivaxers are..if I eat right..and I exercise right..I will be ok...so many I ‘s...forget the vulnerable in my life and my community lol...the selfish uneducated underclass lol
You were 'fine' BECAUSE you had the vaccine - that's THE ENTIRE POINT of it. The vaccine is purposely designed to reduce the severity of the symptoms if you DO catch it, so that you DON'T end up in an ICU on a ventilator, or with long-term COVID complications - *and that's exactly how it went down for you.* No-one ever claimed the vaccine's job was to PREVENT everyone who had it ever getting COVID, just like the flu vaccine's purpose was never to prevent people getting the flu. The only people who have ever tried to claim that is the anti-vaxxers, because they're too busy circle-jerking themselves for being Special Little Soldiers to bother doing any proper learning.
@@writerinprogress so all the people who had Covid before the jabs and didn’t die …did they need a jab when the majority didn’t go to hospital…you’re just spouting what news tells you … too blind to see….
@@niklfc9384 Getting vaccinated doesn't help anyone else but YOU. You can still transmit the virus to others, even if you're vaccinated.
@@writerinprogress
If you feel worried about catching COVID, if you have underlying health conditions then by all means get the vaccine - you should. Forcing others to get it by mandate is unethical and wrong. Mocking people for being sceptical of a brand new vaccine that is less than 2 years old is wrong.
Guess you lot aren’t anti tyranny the?
I bet you don't wear a seatbelt either, you little rebel you~
@@h0lly_blue I don't wear a seatbelt commuting, but I am not stupid enough to be an anti-vaxxer.
Not sure a seatbelt would do much good on a bicycle anyway. No way I strapping myself into a cage and sitting in traffic on my commute. Crazy not stupid.
Lol oh know , so you still believe in the jab then & can’t see the agenda
I am pro-choice with a very unpopular snag. Choice comes with responsibility and consequences.
If you choose not to be a responsible citizen by protecting yourself as much as you can, then you lose the right to be around those smart enough to do so. Choice and consequence, no complaints accepted.
@@shash1108 Believing in the jab, as opposed to unable to read a scientific paper instead of the daily mail, facebook and other bs. Guilty as charged. I call it informed choice.
I won't take the jab I know would kill me, because I read about it and knew it would not be compatible with someone on my medication. If that was the only option I would be unvaccinated, but not dumb enough to be anti-vaccine.
if Adam takes his advice from scientists, why is pushing for people to have a jab that wont be fully tested until 2023?
and as for Alex saying that people unvaxed should be excluded from places. how would he feel if all disabled entry was revoked and he was told "only abled body people allowed"?.
these guys need to think before they speak on national TV.
Being unvaxxed is a choice, being disabled is not. Also the Pfizer vaccine has full approval.
@@roberthoward9500 What about the many people who have been made disabled by the vaxxine?!
@@roberthoward9500 approved by who….. how is it a choice ?
@@diegestive4167 how is what a choice? how is being vaccinated a choice? because if you don't want to get the vaccine you don't have to get it, in the end its yourself you're putting more at risk. Being disabled is majority of the time not a choice, unless you purposely cut your limbs off or incapacitate yourself in some other way.
@@JBG-AjaxzeMedia what part of mandatory is choice ?
I remember when the Left used to question the establishment narratives, no longer.
We are moving to 1984.
Oh no we aren't!
@@linalmeemow Oh Yes We Are.
You should really cite another book if you're going to wave it in our faces that you absolutely did not read 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' properly.
@@pokemrstark7089 Oh no we aren't!
Well see, nowadays we train people to question things for us. Those people are called scientists. It's a pretty good system, saves everybody a lot of trouble.
Propaganda
You clearly don't know what propaganda means, and using propaganda to help people become healthy is an enormous waste of the tool.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 In the wrong way.
@@thebenosrises Yawn
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Lawn.
@@thebenosrises You anti-vaxxers are all the same.
It’s wrong to call everybody who has not had the covid jab an anti vaxer all my kids are vaccinated with normal stuff but I am not having it when I don’t know the long term effects
Still a strange take.
You do understand the potential known long term effects of COVID if you survive? Hearing loss, eyesight loss, damage to the nerves that help your vocal cords work, scarred lung tissue, scared heart tissue, damage to veins and arteries, brain scaring, damage to the stomach. Many of these are not temporary but permanent life long conditions.
If you watch Bake Off then I suggest the next time you do have a closer look at Mary Berry in particular her left arm. You might notice that it is thinner than her right arm. The reason is she caught the virus Polio which has also left her with a twisted spine. She wasn't vaccinated because vaccines weren't in existence for Polio when she caught it. There are going to be people around for years who will be suffering from what is termed long COVID and if you are unlucky then one of them just might be you.
Do you also realise that any virus can and will mutate? The flu virus that killed millions just over 100 years ago mutated into less dangerous far more difficult to spread virus and so died out. Conversely a virus can mutate into something that can be more dangerous in both it's nature and the age group it impacts. These variants can also merge to create another variant. So potentially the easy to spread Delta variant could merge with a variant that is more deadly but currently spreads slowly. This could result in a variant that is able to spread fast and is deadly. It could also produce a variant that impacts children more than adults. How would you feel if your children caught that variant and as a result were hospitalised?
Work began on SARS (COVID is a SARS virus) vaccines twenty years ago that is why they could produce a vaccine so quickly. So trials have been going on for twenty years so many of the potential long term effects are already known. The flu virus changes every year so in effect the annual flu vaccine is a new vaccine every year but we never hear of any long term effects of that.
Final question would you leave your children with a total stranger that you had never met? I'm guessing no. So why are you willing to take your medical advice for yourself and family from total strangers you have never met many of who hide behind anonymous names on the internet? Why are you willing to take your medical advice from people who just happen to have a product to sell you to protect you from COVID, products that have had no clinical trials whatsoever? Why are you willing to take your medical advice from people who have no expertise in the subject they are offering their advice on and why do they always make claims about people they know without ever been willing to give their names so you can check them out for yourself?
@@stephenhodgson3506 Fucking outstanding. Hope you don't mind the swear word.
@@danieldeanhodge not at all I meant they are vaccinated against mumps measles but not covid
@@stephenhodgson3506 I’ve had covid no symptoms
What a let down, lost a lot of respect for this show and the people
Strange take.
I don't see why. I expected it to be much worse from the title but I thought everyone was pretty even handed and fair to both sides and def wouldn't say they were "Ripping Anti-Vaxxers". Did you actually watch the video?
What are you even doing watching this show if you don't like the facts?
Nobody gives a shit.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 I remember when it was a "comedy" show. Just take what they say about antivaxxers as a joke. I don't care really.
I saw a guy including vaccinated on his online dating profile
So he doesn't mind a little prick. That's a good thing. Who is he? Asking for a friend ;)
@@philthy903 You outing your friend for having a little prick isn't the zinger you think it is.
Pretty smart, weeds out the anti vax so doesn't waste his time.