hi! I've noticed that if you pitch shift any track slightly (even just -1 SEMITONE!) then track-ID apps like Shazam and Soundhound WON'T FIND the played track! :) Which is GREAT news for DJs as it's VERY ANNOYING when you get all these people in the crowd holding their phones out and finding out whatever tracks you (have discovered and) play at a gig. And since a mere -1 semitone pitch shift is a barely audible difference in most tracks - meaning that I don't mind pitch-shifting EVERYTHING - is there a way to use Serato's PNT function so that it affects the MAIN MIX'S pitch to -1 semitone (whatever the original pitch is for each track)?? Like something we can just set as a DEFAULT PITCH SHIFT TO THE MAIN OUTPUT OF ALL TRACKS so that nothing we play can be discoverable?? ;)
Man 1 semitone is a big difference, I want to listen to songs in their original pitch. I mean you could also turn off the key lock and mix the old-school way, that would have a similar effect
DJ ERUE Not for hip hop because the vocals will sound off. Maybe if your just key syncing the intro and then switching it back when the vocals come in.
this is wholly and completely incorrect. harmonic mixing is important for ANY TYPE OF MUSIC. ANY TYPE OF MUSIC. Not all music is created equal, but all music has SOME sort of melody. I can give you hundreds of examples of how hip hop can be beautifully mixed using harmonic mixing. Like I mentioned in the video, its important to consider HOW FAR you change the pitch of each song. Changing the pitch too far up or down can make any song sound unnatural.
This is true, but DJing is subjective and for me I rarely use key sync. I do sometimes find it useful for mixing in different genre's. However I tend to not worry too much about the key and just focus on the vibe. It sounds weird to me to pitch an artists voice, also I find the crowd is usually used to the original key. But to each his own bro! Who knows maybe I'll try using it a little more haha.
+Nick Shene Oh okay,but what would be the point of that though?I know in the 1980s'they had a mixer that covered the wires behind the mixer too.I think Jam master Jay had one,I would say to myself where's the wires at?Someone told me that the wires were underneath the mixer.
Crash Kinkaide ~ I felt the same when I was using the Traktor software, then I changed to Serato and it seems the transitions weren’t too smooth, now I use bpm sync, mix in key and pitch in time to be able to accomplish a smooth mix. I’m beginning to think that Serato just wants to sell you more stuff, whereas with Traktor you don’t need all those packages to make a tight transition, just BPM and it sounds amazing.
It is a preference. Non-trained ears will never notice if things are offkey, but djs who pay more attention to detail find more and better ways to transition. Any dj can beatmatch, making a routine while mixing in key and playing tones takes dedication. See, these new mixers have left 1990's vextax mixers in the dust for they are designed to make djs live producers, mixers and remixers. Plain beatmatching a good playlist does not cut it anymore. These technological toys are forcing us to become more than a dj, but only the real dedecated ones take the effort into making better and multi tasking transitions.
this is a very subjective comment. My use of the S9 for this particular video was strictly a personal preference (I even disclaimer this in the video). Coming from someone that owns both mixers, they both have their own strengths and weaknesses. Neither is perfect or all-encompassing when it comes to features and flexibility. cheers! :-)
serato has an equal quality keylock to traktor that comes bundled , but the quality of pitch and time is unrivaled , !!nothing comes close , it knocks spots off all the pioneer cdj keylocks as well
djtrayze I'm not throwing shade I just hate that you gotta buy every fucking thing on serato. I like serato but I don't like them in my pockets to have every feature.
theres no doubting the art,nor the skill needed,specially coming from you,beliee me ive seen most of your videos tutorials....for me it just throws me off when the key is off,unconsciously it bothers me
This needs to be a whole course by this guy 🔥
Dj trayze thanx for the tips, really helpful... N thanx for playing ojuelegba...
yeeeeee
🔥Big Up for that tips Dj Trayze
boom!
Great video. Exactly what I was looking for!
Can u please teach me the scratch at 4:05 ?
I'll have to try this. I use the S9, 62 and Pioneer Controllers. I've been doing this manually vs midi-mapping the performance pads. ;)
great video! can you please do a video on how to use transition songs?
I think weve already done a video on this topic. check the beat refinery youtube page as well.
I like the chirp scratching at 4:00 Im struggling to do that with a kickdrum. Any help?
.. tutorial, i wanna learn it too
practice!
hi! I've noticed that if you pitch shift any track slightly (even just -1 SEMITONE!) then track-ID apps like Shazam and Soundhound WON'T FIND the played track! :) Which is GREAT news for DJs as it's VERY ANNOYING when you get all these people in the crowd holding their phones out and finding out whatever tracks you (have discovered and) play at a gig. And since a mere -1 semitone pitch shift is a barely audible difference in most tracks - meaning that I don't mind pitch-shifting EVERYTHING - is there a way to use Serato's PNT function so that it affects the MAIN MIX'S pitch to -1 semitone (whatever the original pitch is for each track)?? Like something we can just set as a DEFAULT PITCH SHIFT TO THE MAIN OUTPUT OF ALL TRACKS so that nothing we play can be discoverable?? ;)
Man 1 semitone is a big difference, I want to listen to songs in their original pitch. I mean you could also turn off the key lock and mix the old-school way, that would have a similar effect
Hello. I have Serato DJ Pro. I cannot find pitch and play in expansion packs. Where to get it ? Thank you
Dope tracks.. ojuelegba is my jam
How do you midi map ?
Just excellent, cheers
I was able to setup the user mode the same way but how do you map the 6th pad button to reset the key lock? Thanks!
the mapping is all there - its just tapping it twice to reset the pitch to zero (work around)
what purpose does pitch in time serve??
How will i turn off the pitch n time on my S9 mixer?
is harmonic mixing important for hip-hop? I know it is for drum n bass
DJ ERUE Not for hip hop because the vocals will sound off. Maybe if your just key syncing the intro and then switching it back when the vocals come in.
this is wholly and completely incorrect. harmonic mixing is important for ANY TYPE OF MUSIC. ANY TYPE OF MUSIC. Not all music is created equal, but all music has SOME sort of melody. I can give you hundreds of examples of how hip hop can be beautifully mixed using harmonic mixing. Like I mentioned in the video, its important to consider HOW FAR you change the pitch of each song. Changing the pitch too far up or down can make any song sound unnatural.
short answer: harmonic mixing is great for ANY type of music. cheers!
djtrayze awesome...thx u brother
This is true, but DJing is subjective and for me I rarely use key sync. I do sometimes find it useful for mixing in different genre's. However I tend to not worry too much about the key and just focus on the vibe. It sounds weird to me to pitch an artists voice, also I find the crowd is usually used to the original key. But to each his own bro! Who knows maybe I'll try using it a little more haha.
Great tutorial guys! I just have to ask, where did you get that cover for your mixer? It hides all cables perfectly! I mega love it!
we custom made it!
Where? How? When? Tutorial??? It looks great!
NICE STUFF
That was sweet!
No wonder why Trayze is such a beat with time plays
What's the black box in from of the mixer?
It is ordinary wooden box for hiding wires
+Nick Shene Oh okay,but what would be the point of that though?I know in the 1980s'they had a mixer that covered the wires behind the mixer too.I think Jam master Jay had one,I would say to myself where's the wires at?Someone told me that the wires were underneath the mixer.
nothing about this box is ordinary, my friend. lol
Cable management my friend. Having wires all over the place looking sloppy isn't a great look.
Interesting stuff...
Nice!
Djm s9 already comes with pitch n time feature? I can't find pitch n time on my Serato when I connect to my s9 :(
its a plug-in optional
the mapping???
DMV in the building... s/o DJ Trayze/Stylus Chris/Geometrix and the rest of the BR crew...
Played Ojuelegba all i needed to like this video
yeeeeeeee
Why am I more ok with changing the BPM of a song to make a good blend than I am with changing the key of a song?
Crash Kinkaide ~ I felt the same when I was using the Traktor software, then I changed to Serato and it seems the transitions weren’t too smooth, now I use bpm sync, mix in key and pitch in time to be able to accomplish a smooth mix. I’m beginning to think that Serato just wants to sell you more stuff, whereas with Traktor you don’t need all those packages to make a tight transition, just BPM and it sounds amazing.
Ok. That's kinda creepy, as I've only ever used Traktor with any degree of regularity. Are you CIA? NSA? ARE YOU IN MY HEAD????
It is a preference. Non-trained ears will never notice if things are offkey, but djs who pay more attention to detail find more and better ways to transition. Any dj can beatmatch, making a routine while mixing in key and playing tones takes dedication. See, these new mixers have left 1990's vextax mixers in the dust for they are designed to make djs live producers, mixers and remixers. Plain beatmatching a good playlist does not cut it anymore. These technological toys are forcing us to become more than a dj, but only the real dedecated ones take the effort into making better and multi tasking transitions.
Rane 62 is falling down the ladder with the s9 gaining popularity
this is a very subjective comment. My use of the S9 for this particular video was strictly a personal preference (I even disclaimer this in the video). Coming from someone that owns both mixers, they both have their own strengths and weaknesses. Neither is perfect or all-encompassing when it comes to features and flexibility. cheers! :-)
djtrayze fair enough, but I do see a lot more videos with the s9. Thanks for your reply, your input is important to us early level DJs.
Glad this feature is free on traktor
serato has an equal quality keylock to traktor that comes bundled , but the quality of pitch and time is unrivaled , !!nothing comes close , it knocks spots off all the pioneer cdj keylocks as well
GIRTHGIRL I got both traktor and serato I really don't see the difference
so much shade!!!! LOL
djtrayze I'm not throwing shade I just hate that you gotta buy every fucking thing on serato. I like serato but I don't like them in my pockets to have every feature.
firmme dj
sounds like shit when a song is played out of its original key
whats your favorite hip hop song? serious question.
theres no doubting the art,nor the skill needed,specially coming from you,beliee me ive seen most of your videos tutorials....for me it just throws me off when the key is off,unconsciously it bothers me
you must hate all the vocal clip cutting and pitch bending that is so popular right no then
Kill
never have we had such amazing technology to manipulate and blend utterly shite music that no bodys dancing to lol
pretty sure Unforgettable was one of the biggest songs of the year...
fair comment , but we have lost a lot of quality in your average tune i feel the more technology advances ,
LOL!
BIBMASTER how dare you chat shit bout ojuelegba
I'm new to the S9 and I'm having issues mapping things in user mode 4, anyone got any resources to help me? @djtrayze