When my brother went to Vietnam he left behind 2 albums. One by the Association and one by the Byrds. I believe I played them every day that he was gone. Thankfully he came home and reclaimed them.
One guy kind of sticks out so I looked him up. Larry Ramos was of Filipino descent with a blend of Chinese and Spanish ancestry. He was born and raised in Waimea, Hawaii. The family later moved to California. At the age of 13, he was in the national touring company of the King and I. In 1962, he joined the New Christy Minstrels and in 1967, The Association.
Thanks for the short biography, I remember he was raised in Hawaii but didn’t know anything else. I still bothers me that Ed and others call them a rock band for lack of proper and accurate description. They were A pop vocal group with more influences from folk that blues based rock. I’m a musician from 50 years ago. The rock hall of fame regularly mislabels artists the same way.
@@timnewsom6422 Back then virtually all the bands were "rock bands" except Tijuana Brass, Barry Sadler, country (i.e.Roger Miller. Johnny Cash) and stuff my parents listened to (i.e. Andy Williams, Frank Sinatra). I would probably put them in a similar category with Herman's Hermits, Monkeys and Gerry and the Pacemakers) but my friends and I called all of them "rock bands". Look back to the '50s at the Flamingos. Diamonds, Platters and other vocal groups probably sounded more like crooners from the '40s but teens identified with them more. Their songs were usually referred as "rock ballads". I think with the advent of FM radio in the '70s especially was when genres became more stratified. In the '60s, virtually anything that was popular, no matter what the genre was, if it was popular then it was played on the radio. Now, the Association would probably identified as Adult Contemporary .
@@gbsk12 back then if you showed up for a rock band audition and was ignorant of Cream, The Doors, Hendrix, The Who you would be laughed out of the building. Take your Monkies to the teenie bopper barn. Labels matter in detail for musicians. Platters were from Do Wop period.definitions matter
You know, in a top 10 or top 20 list of favorite American male singers, most people would not even think to add any member of The Association. But really, every one of these men had as good or better quality singing voice than the vast majority of their peers during that era. And that's saying something because there were so many talented pop/rock/r&b singers coming to the fore at that time. I'm thinking of Neil Diamond, Paul McCartney, Mickey Dolenz, Jackie Wilson, Johnny Rivers, Stevie Wonder, Three Dog Night, Smokey Robinson, Gary Puckett, Paul Simon, Bobby Hebb, Dennis Yost, singers like this. Association singers are right up there in that league.
you know how many guys played this song for their girlfriend before they went off to nam , i just wished that they had all come home to fill that promise and being a kid in the 60s i saw some of those guys come home so lost it was sad to see being so young they just werent the same guys i had known when they left it was just hard to understand being a little kid but i cant help but remembering how sad i felt even though i was that young id come home from school and my family would be crying over the loss of a boy from town and i still feel sad when i think about it !
by the way i was 7 years old that year and it seems like yesterday i remember the guy that came home from that just wanted to be left alone their spirit from before had been take away
Easy to see how proud he was to have the Shondells. Barely out of HS but hijacked some Pittsburgh musicians on the way to NYC. Only sold 100,000,000 records. Not bad for a SW Michigan teen. Much wiser than his years. RR HOF should be honored to have them. Wear your hair long + sing a love song
Always a nice song to hear, but back in those days you should you be using your coast-to-coast exposure to play your new 45...I hope they did that on this broadcast, which, I believe, would have been "Six Man Band".
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Especially when all these other people were just having fun and enjoying their lives. Thank you for your service ❤
According to Hollywood, all you guys were listening to Gimme Shelter, Purple Haze, Fortunate Son, and This is the End. But the Association? What soldier would want to just chill out to beautiful harmonizing in their downtime?
@@KyleWarren-l4nI'm 60. I recall my grands and mom watching Ed Sullivan every week, and man, the variety of music I was exposed to! And when it was a band I already knew from the radio, I was doubly excited!
This was Our song. It was performed at our wedding in 1967. Still gives me chills. Our 55th. anniversary is in Dec. Yes our anniversary is next week and we are still both here!💝
Why The Association is NOT in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is beyond me. Maybe Jann Wenner just viscerally dislikes the superb musical artistry of The Association for some unknown reason?
Can we stop and appreciate the production values here? Way to go, Ed Sullivan and crew, for making a classic love song from one of the most under-appreciated bands of the era absolutely hold up in this day and age. Timeless.
I dedicate this song to my husband of 22 years who just passed away unexpectedly. He recently said that he felt I no longer loved him. Nothing could be further from the truth. But he died believing that I no longer loved him. PLEASE always make sure your loved ones know how much you care about them before it's too late. Can't stress that enough. 💔
Sorry for your loss. And your words are so true. I never told my mom how much I loved her. I thought if I showed by my actions and by taking care of her she'd understand. Always buying birthday and mother's day cards to express myself. But there is no substitute for saying it.
@@Wheresthelove7 We weren't an emotional family and we were the same way. I did hold her hand at the end and sobbed uncontrollably. I should have said it more.
According to Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI), which keeps track of such data, "Never My Love" by The Association was the second-most played song on American radio and television in the 20th century, trailing only "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" by the Righteous Brothers. Another Association song, "Cherish," was #22. I am sure your friend Richard Addrisi is well aware of this fact; tell him for me thank you for writing a truly beautiful song and presenting it to The Association for them to record it!
There were many successful artists who would be labelled hip and square simultaneously. The Carpenters come to mind. The Captain and Tennille. Many had a mix in their music repertoire.
They’re singing live with the song as backing track, so you’re actually both right. They’re not lip syncing. Pay attention to Larry Ramos at 1:40. The Beatles did something similar when they recorded Hey Jude at the David Frost Show that same year.
What I appreciate about these Sullivan videos is that, at least part of, the performance was live. The Association nailed the harmonies here. Not easy to do.
You can see guitars plugged in,singing slightly different,looks like a live recording,l like Larry Ramos slightly changing vocal part and smiling,nice performance,sunshine pop.
@@olblu8746 Surely "Stairway to Heaven"? Oops! Somebody (MarkRaymondLuce) below said that it was the Righteous Brothers "You've Lost that Loving Feeling" that is on First. Mark is quoting BMI, Broadcast Music, Inc. which says it it so. "Cherish" was #22.
This song is not only beautiful but TIMELESS!!! In 1967 I was in Elementary School when this song came out. I've been listening to this song since I was 11 years old and still listening to this song. Who is still listening in Dec 23, 2021? I'm 66 Yrs old and perhaps will still be listening while I'm still standing. Beautiful love songs will never go out of style they tend to get better and become more meaningful. This is from a time that music had a message and songs were plain and simple.
This was my parents song. My mom passed over ten years ago of lymphoma. I was at brunch with my dad and stepmom and the song came on. I loved that he blurted out “this was my and your mom’s song.” (Which i always knew) brought a tear to my eye and warm smile to my face. They were married 36 years. 🥹
Also some parts were sung with different nuances than the Album. When the song started, Terry really landed on the word "Love" each time. This production was brilliant on all counts!
Everytime I heard this song at the time these guys first sang it, my heart would melt........ guess what?.......Hearing it again today,my heart still does the same.
UN FUCKING REAL. This is the best quality i have ever seen of the association AND one of the best recordings of this song LIVE. HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!! God bless whoever uploaded this!!
To my mind,one of the groups of the era 60s to 70s and their music still lives on, timeless in its entirety,Beautifull lyrics and hauntingly lovely melodic lines not to mention the harmonies,The ASSOCIATION ! AWESOME
This song just reminds me so much of my Da and Mam. I was born in 70, this was always on the turntable. They'd have a wee dance to it after dinner. ❤ It's a hard song for me. It brings back ALL of the happy memories, but also reminds me of how so much I miss them. ❤😊😢❤ It's a damn beauty song no matter. ❤
Never My Love is a great classic song! The lyrics with the melody and with the chord progression are just absolutely perfect. As for the doubters, as an experienced musician in several bands in my band days, this Ed Sullivan performance sounds to me like everything is live, they are singing all the vocals and playing all the instruments live in real time and the ending is live. There are live recordings of The Association from this time period and they actually did sound this good live even though they had session musicians playing on many but not all of their studio tracks, which was done to save recording time which meant saving studio costs - depending on which producer they had at the time and album budget and how busy they were - being that they were a very busy touring band doing a few hundred concerts a year including TV shows - keep in mind this is sort of how The Beach Boys were doing everything also, Brian was writing and producing while the other Beach Boys were on the road doing concerts, and various LA session musicians whom we know today as The Wrecking Crew were playing all the Beach Boys tracks under Brian's direction - except sometimes Carl would play guitar and Brian would play keyboards, and all six of the Beach Boys during a pause from touring would sing all the vocals that they would arrange in the studio, but in live concerts, the Beach Boys played all their own instruments, and if they played close to home Brian would sometimes join them - so The Wrecking Crew played on Association tracks and on many Beach Boys tracks as well as other artists such as Mamas and Papas, Sonny and Cher, and many others. All of the members of The Association were excellent singers, and were pretty good musicians, the co-lead vocalist on this song Terry Kirkman (the guy with the beard) played in a few bands with Frank Zappa before The Association and Mothers of Invention were formed, so that should confirm any misconceptions about musicianship right there, and he also went to college as a music major - I'm not sure if he graduated but he was a music major on woodwind instruments and I am sure as a member of the college music department choir. Larry Ramos the other co-lead vocalist on this song had many years of experience having played guitar professionally since he was a child and he played with The New Christy Minstrels before joining The Association as a replacement for their original member Joe Alexander - who actually rejoined I think in 1968 and is still one of the two founding members still with The Association today - the other founding member being Jim Yester the lead vocalist on Along Comes Mary who is and always was a pretty good guitarist and excellent pianist and overall keyboardist. There is a live album of The Association which I think came out around 1969 or 1970 and it confirms how good they sounded in concert, they were playing all of their own instruments in concert and singing while they were playing. There is a TH-cam video of them from 1967 playing the Ravinia Festival playing an extended version of the song Windy and it is live, they are playing all their own instruments and singing while they're playing and it is very good, and Kirkman is doing some nice embellishments on the 8-bar solo piccolo part and Ted Bluechel shows how good of a drummer he was and he is singing some pretty intricate parts, and they are all on pitch and I see no stage monitors in the live video - this was back in the days when stage monitors were not even thought of.
I think Kirkman was probably a brass or music education major - while he apparently plays some two dozen instruments, his main winds seem to be trumpet, fluegelhorn, and recorder - which last has no embochure but requires the good breath control a brass player would also have.
@@garymarcum1477 You are apparently looking for argument, you came to the right person, so I will set you straight on this issue! As a matter of policy, all acts on the Ed Sullivan show performed live - every band / singer all performed live! Look it up! Some shows like The Smothers Brothers all lip synced as a matter of practicality; shows from the 50s, 60s, and 70s had different policies as to whether a band or artist pretended to play to a pre-recorded track or performed live; so I repeat for your uniformed shallow world-view, that all acts on the Ed Sullivan show performed live - every band / singer all performed live! Ed Sullivan himself insisted on this, The Ed Sullivan show was live, not taped earlier in the day, when everyone saw The Beatles or Elvis Presley on The Ed Sullivan Show on Sunday evenings, they were watching literally in real time a live performance! Again, look it up know it all!
wow. all that from a simple statement. I'm not getting involved with you. What a toxic place the internet is. My trained ears says it's not them playing. end of this bullshit with you.
There’s a good clip from 1967 (I think) when they played the first big rock festival, Monterey. They sounded really good live and had a bit more edge than you anticipate with The Association.
1967, my senior year in high school. Man does this song bring back memories! Two years before leaving for Vietnam, and 3 years before meeting my wife to be. If I could only go back and know what I know today...
@@roderick2105 Larry Ramos, Jr. died in 2014. His brother, Del, has been the bass guitarist with the band for many years along with keyboardist Jordan Cole, the son of original Association member, the late Brian Cole. What’s always impressed me about The Association, along with their wonderful song writing ability and excellent instrumental play, is their superb vocalizations. To have seven band members who are such consummate singers is remarkable.
You ask me if there'll come a time When I grow tired of you Never, my love Never, my love You wonder if this heart of mine Will lose its desire for you Never, my love Never, my love What makes you think love will end? When you know that my whole life depends On you (on you) Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba (ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba) Never, my love Never, my love You say you fear I'll change my mind I won't require you Never, my love Never, my love How can you think love will end When I've asked you to spend your whole life With me? (with me, with me) Never, my love (never, my love) Never, my love Never, my love (never, my love) Never, my love Never, my love
Such a beautiful song... Brings tears to my eyes, reminiscing about when I was a little kid, and life was fun and safe! 🤗 I want to time travel and stay there!
Many people don’t realize that following this Ed Sullivan show performance, “Never My Love” became the #1 most-played song on U.S. radio in othe 20th Century, partly because dozens of other artists subsequently recorded their own versions.
They were not voted in as they are pure and did not walk and sing the songs of Lucifer. They never sold out like all the others. They will be in the hall of fame in another dimension.
They were never considered “cool” but Never My Love is still one of the greatest love songs ever committed to record. It sounds like Burt Bacharach got gang-banged by The Byrds and out came this little cherub that flitted about on wings shooting poison arrows into dreamy couples notions of a starry eyed future.
Way back when we just took beautiful harmony like this for granted-it was part and parcel of so many songs.. By today's standards this stuff sounds absolutely towering now.
I would give anything to have been at Monterey Pop..I was able to make it to Goose lake music festival in my home state of Michigan...its not Monterey pop but was still pretty damn cool
@@SL-vi4tk yes we did it right. Did not realize at the time what a collection of talent. One of the main guys behind the festival was Russ Gibb a legend in music in Michigan. He owned the Grande Ballroom in Detroit which had the cream if the crop of music in the late 60's into the 70's. The ballroom I believe was compatible to both the Fillmores east/west.
I can tell they're singing live for sure. Amazing. I don't know if the instruments are plugged in but whatever that Hawaiian guy is doing on that Fender looks pretty damn tricky. Edit: the look and smile at 1:48 he gives right at the camera! Lol! 😆 "yes, we're singing live folks."
San Francisco in the early Sixties was beautiful...until the "decay" set in,...Haight-Ashbury @ 1967. Afterwards the "liberated" people moved in and destroyed everything. The Association was one of the more beautiful aspects with their musical style. Jim Yester and Larry Ramos,...tops. Regards
This was actually a live performance! It sounds close to the studio version at the beginning, but you can hear some different harmonies that you don't hear in the original recording. Sounds great. Always loved this song.
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When my brother went to Vietnam he left behind 2 albums. One by the Association and one by the Byrds. I believe I played them every day that he was gone. Thankfully he came home and reclaimed them.
God bless your brother for serving in anothet pointless conflict.
Good that he came home safe after doing his duty unlike Trump.
@@neilmurray6943 It is a very shallow mind that can only respond on a single topic.
@@saltytraveller Are you a veteran like your brother? I am.
@@neilmurray6943 Yes I am. I served my country well. I still fly the flag, and I want the absolute best for my country.
One guy kind of sticks out so I looked him up.
Larry Ramos was of Filipino descent with a blend of Chinese and Spanish ancestry. He was born and raised in Waimea, Hawaii. The family later moved to California.
At the age of 13, he was in the national touring company of the King and I. In 1962, he joined the New Christy Minstrels and in 1967, The Association.
Thanks for the short biography, I remember he was raised in Hawaii but didn’t know anything else. I still bothers me that Ed and others call them a rock band for lack of proper and accurate description. They were A pop vocal group with more influences from folk that blues based rock. I’m a musician from 50 years ago. The rock hall of fame regularly mislabels artists the same way.
When Ramos was referred to as "being made in Japan" on the Smothers Brothers show, was inaccurate.
@@mikegee8875 That would be a case where even famous liberals like the Smothers Bros would not be “woke” in today’s political climate.
@@timnewsom6422 Back then virtually all the bands were "rock bands" except Tijuana Brass, Barry Sadler, country (i.e.Roger Miller. Johnny Cash) and stuff my parents listened to (i.e. Andy Williams, Frank Sinatra). I would probably put them in a similar category with Herman's Hermits, Monkeys and Gerry and the Pacemakers) but my friends and I called all of them "rock bands". Look back to the '50s at the Flamingos. Diamonds, Platters and other vocal groups probably sounded more like crooners from the '40s but teens identified with them more. Their songs were usually referred as "rock ballads". I think with the advent of FM radio in the '70s especially was when genres became more stratified. In the '60s, virtually anything that was popular, no matter what the genre was, if it was popular then it was played on the radio. Now, the Association would probably identified as Adult Contemporary .
@@gbsk12 back then if you showed up for a rock band audition and was ignorant of Cream, The Doors, Hendrix, The Who you would be laughed out of the building. Take your Monkies to the teenie bopper barn. Labels matter in detail for musicians. Platters were from Do Wop period.definitions matter
I asked the band at our wedding to learn this one for our 1st dance as husband & wife. They were surprised but nailed it wife was also surprised
You know, in a top 10 or top 20 list of favorite American male singers, most people would not even think to add any member of The Association. But really, every one of these men had as good or better quality singing voice than the vast majority of their peers during that era. And that's saying something because there were so many talented pop/rock/r&b singers coming to the fore at that time. I'm thinking of Neil Diamond, Paul McCartney, Mickey Dolenz, Jackie Wilson, Johnny Rivers, Stevie Wonder, Three Dog Night, Smokey Robinson, Gary Puckett, Paul Simon, Bobby Hebb, Dennis Yost, singers like this. Association singers are right up there in that league.
grew up with this music what beautiful harmonizing -- endless...wish i knew what i know now, then... beautiful beautiful harmony
Oh those bygone halcyon days of our youth, poignant memories....
We split in 1969 I've never stopped loving you ❤
What a great band...in a great time!
Beautiful song and harmonies any era
Has it really been 50 years since i first listened to this song.
you know how many guys played this song for their girlfriend before they went off to nam , i just wished that they had all come home to fill that promise and being a kid in the 60s i saw some of those guys come home so lost it was sad to see being so young they just werent the same guys i had known when they left it was just hard to understand being a little kid but i cant help but remembering how sad i felt even though i was that young id come home from school and my family would be crying over the loss of a boy from town and i still feel sad when i think about it !
by the way i was 7 years old that year and it seems like yesterday i remember the guy that came home from that just wanted to be left alone their spirit from before had been take away
Incredible. This is live.
For sure
Easy to see how proud he was to have the Shondells. Barely out of HS but hijacked some Pittsburgh musicians on the way to NYC. Only sold 100,000,000 records. Not bad for a SW Michigan teen. Much wiser than his years. RR HOF should be honored to have them. Wear your hair long + sing a love song
LOVE.
A really big Sheeeeeeeew!!!
This is a great song. The performance is a little cheesy, but their music is so damn good.
A time before computers, when vocalists could really sing and play
Sounded as good as their record. Oh it probably was their record.
RIP Terry Kirkman...
Always a nice song to hear, but back in those days you should you be using your coast-to-coast exposure to play your new 45...I hope they did that on this broadcast, which, I believe, would have been "Six Man Band".
👍👍👍❤❤תודה יפה
isn't this so pretty???---forgot about THIS one!!!
it was great, but not quite a rock group as they were introduced. so many good harmony bands back then, time traveling here on youtube.
I want to go back! Anybody want to go with me?
Yes, me !! 😅
@@lori64lg plenty of room 👍
count me in the van- i want back in - those were better times-mike
I'm in!
@@paulatighe7073 They sure we're🙁
We met when I was 17, married at age 28. Three children and 42 years later and we are still going strong,
What took you so long? j/k
❤congrats❤
oh please, stop bragging
This song helped me escape the war zone of Vietnam for a while. Thanks Associates.
God bless you and yours for your service!
God bless you and & Thank you for your service.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Especially when all these other people were just having fun and enjoying their lives. Thank you for your service ❤
Welcome Home, brother!
173rd Airborne Brigade/74th Infantry Detachment/LRRP
RVN '66 - '69😢
Barney
According to Hollywood, all you guys were listening to Gimme Shelter, Purple Haze, Fortunate Son, and This is the End.
But the Association? What soldier would want to just chill out to beautiful harmonizing in their downtime?
My husband proposed to me while this 45 played. I lost him in. 2000, but I will never forget those few minutes ❤️
✝🕊❤
Dear Bea, i am very sorry for your loss. We got to be around the same age as so few of know what "45" means today.
❤️
Bea, you will see him again. Finish the race. The race has rules.
@@AJ-kw8gm I'll keep
They stopped making music this good decades ago.
This is “ our song “,too ! Met at 16 and we’ll celebrate 53 years married in September !
Congratulations! ❤
We met at 19 and 21, married a year later, and celebrating 50 years this summer. It was a Golden time for music.
Congrats
Congratulations that's awesome ❤
Congratulations
Our song 🎶 was Fooled around and fell in love. 😉
Back when people actually played instruments and could sing. Instead of computer generated music.
Puff , who??
so true
The bit near the end played on the organ really gets me . Really skilful
This is when music was good. Relying on talent, not theatrics.
Agreed! 👍👍 As well as without atrocious behaviour! ☺️☺️☺️
for sure
I'm old but I sure remember the great sounds I grew up hearing!
Isn’t it amazing that they could actually sing?
Don't reject theatrics. All the world's a stage, after all.
The first ten seconds of this song are better than Miley Cyrus whole career
Same thing can be said about Taylor Swift.
Leave Miley Alone.
@@wantsomecoffeeoh please
Better than the last 15-20 years of music period
@@wantsomecoffeeno she deserves it lol
I'm 72. I guess I'm one of the youngsters Ed Sullivan is talking to.
yep, if we're lucky we still are
69 and yep. This was the first album I ever bought.
😂
@@KyleWarren-l4nI'm 60. I recall my grands and mom watching Ed Sullivan every week, and man, the variety of music I was exposed to! And when it was a band I already knew from the radio, I was doubly excited!
Me too!
This was Our song. It was performed at our wedding in 1967. Still gives me chills. Our 55th. anniversary is in Dec. Yes our anniversary is next week and we are still both here!💝
We're only 52 in August.
bless you.
Good going. We're only a year behind you. And there'll never be a time without our love.
That's so wonderful. Smiles for you both.
Congratulations! What a beautiful song to commemorate such memories. ✌🏼
One of the finest love songs of the '60s.
RIP Brian Cole, Larry Ramos, and Terry Kirkman! 💐
I planned to play this on our 40th anniversary.We made it to 38.He passed in 2004.I still miss him.The Lord has kept me going.
❤❤❤
Sorry for your loss. You believe you will see him again, so do I.
Prayers. We are going into year 48 - I can’t imagine being without my husband.
We are into year 50......cherish every day like it's the last!
@@patriciasnyder6915
I am so truly sorry for your loss.
If this doesn't reach you, nothing will.
❤
Great song......Association probably the most underrated groups of the 60s......anyone with me on this??????
I'm with ya Rick
Count me in too. A timeless song from an incredible group.
@@kw5591 I agree.
Absolutely.
Why The Association is NOT in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is beyond me. Maybe Jann Wenner just viscerally dislikes the superb musical artistry of The Association for some unknown reason?
There I am, age 14, loving this song. I’m 67 now and it just takes me back.
Just 2 years behind you - never forget this song - best wishes to
you.
I think memories of music keep us alive longer as I'm in your age group and still feeling great.
Me too I'm 68
Me, too. I'm 68 and remember this like it was yesterday.
Debbie Foster...I was 16 back then and summers were forever! 👴
Can we stop and appreciate the production values here? Way to go, Ed Sullivan and crew, for making a classic love song from one of the most under-appreciated bands of the era absolutely hold up in this day and age. Timeless.
Actually they were quite popular in their era.
No lip synching here! Live performance that sounds fantastic! You're so right.
Agreed! It’s not exactly like the version played on the radio, and that’s ok!
The organ and piano are identical to the record...some prerecorded for sure
well said!
I dedicate this song to my husband of 22 years who just passed away unexpectedly. He recently said that he felt I no longer loved him. Nothing could be further from the truth. But he died believing that I no longer loved him. PLEASE always make sure your loved ones know how much you care about them before it's too late. Can't stress that enough. 💔
Sorry for your loss. And your words are so true. I never told my mom how much I loved her. I thought if I showed by my actions and by taking care of her she'd understand. Always buying birthday and mother's day cards to express myself. But there is no substitute for saying it.
@@Wheresthelove7 We weren't an emotional family and we were the same way. I did hold her hand at the end and sobbed uncontrollably. I should have said it more.
💔💔💔💔
Good news Carol: He now knows with certainty.
@@mikejohn0088 I hope he does.
A toast 🍷 to any one lucky or blessed enough to find true love with that special someone ❤️
48 years married next month
@@TheOriginalRick 48 years says it all . Congratulations and may you have another 48 more 😀
🥂💙 'blessed' or 'lucky enough' 😢is exactly correct...❤
Beautiful song - the title is engraved inside our wedding rings. 38 years now and I still haven’t grown tired of her.
That's a BEAUTIFUL thing 2 say about your wife! Your words brought tears 2 my eyes!!!!!! How WONDEFUL 2 say that!!!!!! Bravo!!!!@@!
I guess she hasn't grown tired of you, either! Married 41 years here.....could not live without her. Literally.
Dude.
Tears 😭
John you are very fortunate.
"Never My Love" was written by my friend Richard and his late brother Donald, The Addrisi Brothers!
Great writers! The Association cut many of their songs
Beautiful song writing.
Vastly overlooked artists in their own right!
Simply beautiful.
According to Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI), which keeps track of such data, "Never My Love" by The Association was the second-most played song on American radio and television in the 20th century, trailing only "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" by the Righteous Brothers. Another Association song, "Cherish," was #22.
I am sure your friend Richard Addrisi is well aware of this fact; tell him for me thank you for writing a truly beautiful song and presenting it to The Association for them to record it!
1967, just married in March, in the Army in Germany, such great memories.
My Husband was stationed in Germany too..we spent the first 5 years of our marriage there. We came home with 2 little boys!
60s music was the absolute best!!
Great band. Precise, superior production, great vocals. Music is crap today.
You do understand that people the age you are now said the same thing about The Association and other big acts of the 60s and 70s, right?
The Association somehow managed to be both totally hip and totally square at the same time.
Great singer,wish l went to their concert.🎸🪕🎻🪘🥁
It’s hip to be square… 😉
There were many successful artists who would be labelled hip and square simultaneously. The Carpenters come to mind. The Captain and Tennille. Many had a mix in their music repertoire.
True. And now, revered.
@@dazeyday5699 You took my comment!
I am 66 years old.we had a lot of great songs back then.we humans never learn.😢
Doing harmonies like that live is difficult. They nailed it.
I think the harmonies are prerecorded
@@pmsfar-outgrooviness8025 No, I can tell they're different.
@@lightcaesar can tell you me where?
They’re singing live with the song as backing track, so you’re actually both right. They’re not lip syncing. Pay attention to Larry Ramos at 1:40. The Beatles did something similar when they recorded Hey Jude at the David Frost Show that same year.
@@carl_anderson9315 I know the leads are live, but i'm thinking the harmonies are not - but i'm open to being proven wrong
What I appreciate about these Sullivan videos is that, at least part of, the performance was live. The Association nailed the harmonies here. Not easy to do.
Why why can't we turn back time and relived those days, oh golden years and memories.....❤️🙏
We had freedoms back then that seem to be lost now. And the music was so great. So melodic.
Save me a seat on the time machine, please!!!
You sound like Cher..
@@karrenpopovics2780😂🤣
Sorry just appreciating the past my deceased mom met Cher, when she was working at a record company.
Love this song. This group has some of the best harmonies of all time
So sorry for the infringe on your privacy. Beautiful song. How are you?
This is when music was real music. And it meant some thing. Miss those days.
I was born in 1967 I do love the classic music. Not the trash they play on radio 2023!
agreed, I was born in 1966 :)
Right musicians just played their instruments and sang, no flames or strobe lights and dancers grabbing their crotches.😊
Born in 1963 and love music, period. Every era produces its own great artists and memorable songs.
I was born 1967 too
Why can't music like this be made today ?
I think this might be the most beautiful song ever recorded.
Totally agree ❤
For a 50-year old video, this production is outstanding! It's clear that they sang the song. Well done!
I don’t see any monitors on stage. Sorry, lip syncing is not new.
You can see guitars plugged in,singing slightly different,looks like a live recording,l like Larry Ramos slightly changing vocal part and smiling,nice performance,sunshine pop.
@@michaelbyrd524 The vocals are live. They're different from the recorded version.
Most likely singing live over the instrumental recorded track...
Props to the audio genius of Art Shine...🎤🎛🎧
Absolutely nobody sang live on variety shows.
" "Never My Love" has since been certified the second-most-frequently-played song in America during the 20th century."
@larslake who's on 1st?
@@olblu8746You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling by The Righteous Brothers
I was born in 1959 and I grew up with all these great songs. Hearing them takes me back to summer days, riding bikes, swimming and climbing trees. ❤
@@olblu8746 Surely "Stairway to Heaven"? Oops! Somebody (MarkRaymondLuce) below said that it was the Righteous Brothers "You've Lost that Loving Feeling" that is on First. Mark is quoting BMI, Broadcast Music, Inc. which says it it so. "Cherish" was #22.
Larry Ramos was a great talent. R.I.P. 🙏
This is songwriting!!
This song is not only beautiful but TIMELESS!!! In 1967 I was in Elementary School when this song came out. I've been listening to this song since I was 11 years old and still listening to this song. Who is still listening in Dec 23, 2021? I'm 66 Yrs old and perhaps will still be listening while I'm still standing. Beautiful love songs will never go out of style they tend to get better and become more meaningful. This is from a time that music had a message and songs were plain and simple.
I’m the same age and first heard it in Seattle. Transports me back to my youth every time I hear it.
Sir, you are soooooooo right.
I was 9 when this song came out. Still listening at 64.
@@crushedrgb I am also the same age and so agree!
I'm here 7/26/2022 and still loving this music, now 68.
Dear Ed introducing the Association as a "rock group". Windy is my favorite Association song; but Never My Love is a gorgeous song that is ageless.
This was my parents song. My mom passed over ten years ago of lymphoma. I was at brunch with my dad and stepmom and the song came on. I loved that he blurted out “this was my and your mom’s song.” (Which i always knew) brought a tear to my eye and warm smile to my face. They were married 36 years. 🥹
Just read too that it was all live & no lip syncing on the Ed Sullivan show. Sounds fantastic!
Also some parts were sung with different nuances than the Album. When the song started, Terry really landed on the word "Love" each time. This production was brilliant on all counts!
Everytime I heard this song at the time these guys first sang it, my heart would melt........ guess what?.......Hearing it again today,my heart still does the same.
UN FUCKING REAL. This is the best quality i have ever seen of the association AND one of the best recordings of this song LIVE. HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!! God bless whoever uploaded this!!
A very underrated band. They never have gotten the recognition they deserved. So much talent.
Larry Ramos nailed it. Hell all of them nailed it. This is one of my top 2 songs.
Cherish gets me.
He was a great talent. Never really got his due.
To my mind,one of the groups of the era 60s to 70s and their music still lives on, timeless in its entirety,Beautifull lyrics and hauntingly lovely melodic lines not to mention the harmonies,The ASSOCIATION ! AWESOME
Its because they all grew up singing in church, that sixties and seventies music sounds so good.
This song just reminds me so much of my Da and Mam. I was born in 70, this was always on the turntable. They'd have a wee dance to it after dinner. ❤
It's a hard song for me. It brings back ALL of the happy memories, but also reminds me of how so much I miss them. ❤😊😢❤
It's a damn beauty song no matter. ❤
Never My Love is a great classic song! The lyrics with the melody and with the chord progression are just absolutely perfect.
As for the doubters, as an experienced musician in several bands in my band days, this Ed Sullivan performance sounds to me like everything is live, they are singing all the vocals and playing all the instruments live in real time and the ending is live. There are live recordings of The Association from this time period and they actually did sound this good live even though they had session musicians playing on many but not all of their studio tracks, which was done to save recording time which meant saving studio costs - depending on which producer they had at the time and album budget and how busy they were - being that they were a very busy touring band doing a few hundred concerts a year including TV shows - keep in mind this is sort of how The Beach Boys were doing everything also, Brian was writing and producing while the other Beach Boys were on the road doing concerts, and various LA session musicians whom we know today as The Wrecking Crew were playing all the Beach Boys tracks under Brian's direction - except sometimes Carl would play guitar and Brian would play keyboards, and all six of the Beach Boys during a pause from touring would sing all the vocals that they would arrange in the studio, but in live concerts, the Beach Boys played all their own instruments, and if they played close to home Brian would sometimes join them - so The Wrecking Crew played on Association tracks and on many Beach Boys tracks as well as other artists such as Mamas and Papas, Sonny and Cher, and many others.
All of the members of The Association were excellent singers, and were pretty good musicians, the co-lead vocalist on this song Terry Kirkman (the guy with the beard) played in a few bands with Frank Zappa before The Association and Mothers of Invention were formed, so that should confirm any misconceptions about musicianship right there, and he also went to college as a music major - I'm not sure if he graduated but he was a music major on woodwind instruments and I am sure as a member of the college music department choir. Larry Ramos the other co-lead vocalist on this song had many years of experience having played guitar professionally since he was a child and he played with The New Christy Minstrels before joining The Association as a replacement for their original member Joe Alexander - who actually rejoined I think in 1968 and is still one of the two founding members still with The Association today - the other founding member being Jim Yester the lead vocalist on Along Comes Mary who is and always was a pretty good guitarist and excellent pianist and overall keyboardist. There is a live album of The Association which I think came out around 1969 or 1970 and it confirms how good they sounded in concert, they were playing all of their own instruments in concert and singing while they were playing.
There is a TH-cam video of them from 1967 playing the Ravinia Festival playing an extended version of the song Windy and it is live, they are playing all their own instruments and singing while they're playing and it is very good, and Kirkman is doing some nice embellishments on the 8-bar solo piccolo part and Ted Bluechel shows how good of a drummer he was and he is singing some pretty intricate parts, and they are all on pitch and I see no stage monitors in the live video - this was back in the days when stage monitors were not even thought of.
I think Kirkman was probably a brass or music education major - while he apparently plays some two dozen instruments, his main winds seem to be trumpet, fluegelhorn, and recorder - which last has no embochure but requires the good breath control a brass player would also have.
they are not playing this. they did a good job of faking it.
@@garymarcum1477 You are apparently looking for argument, you came to the right person, so I will set you straight on this issue! As a matter of policy, all acts on the Ed Sullivan show performed live - every band / singer all performed live! Look it up!
Some shows like The Smothers Brothers all lip synced as a matter of practicality; shows from the 50s, 60s, and 70s had different policies as to whether a band or artist pretended to play to a pre-recorded track or performed live; so I repeat for your uniformed shallow world-view, that all acts on the Ed Sullivan show performed live - every band / singer all performed live! Ed Sullivan himself insisted on this, The Ed Sullivan show was live, not taped earlier in the day, when everyone saw The Beatles or Elvis Presley on The Ed Sullivan Show on Sunday evenings, they were watching literally in real time a live performance! Again, look it up know it all!
wow. all that from a simple statement. I'm not getting involved with you. What a toxic place the internet is. My trained ears says it's not them playing. end of this bullshit with you.
There’s a good clip from 1967 (I think) when they played the first big rock festival, Monterey. They sounded really good live and had a bit more edge than you anticipate with The Association.
1967, my senior year in high school. Man does this song bring back memories! Two years before leaving for Vietnam, and 3 years before meeting my wife to be. If I could only go back and know what I know today...
Wow, I didn’t realize it was that good. Those harmonies were stunning.
One of the greatest groups of the decade. A group of exceptionally gifted performers lead by the incredible voices of Larry Ramos and Terry Kirkman.
I agree 100%.
I assume Larry Ramos was Philipino , what happened to that guy - is he still with us ??
@@roderick2105
Larry Ramos, Jr. died in 2014. His brother, Del, has been the bass guitarist with the band for many years along with keyboardist Jordan Cole, the son of original Association member, the late Brian Cole.
What’s always impressed me about The Association, along with their wonderful song writing ability and excellent instrumental play, is their superb vocalizations. To have seven band members who are such consummate singers is remarkable.
@@roderick2105 Born and raised in Hawaii of Filipino descent. Died about 10 years ago, after 40 years with the band. He had a heck of a run.
@@daveconleyportfolio5192 I would say. I'm sure he lived a life only some of us can dream of being part of one of the best bands!
According to Wikipedia: Dual lead vocals with Terry Kirkman and Larry Ramos, learn something new everyday
Yeah, I always thought it was Larry Ramos double-tracked. You can barely hear Kirkman in the studio version.
Yes, used to be a Gary "Jules" Alexander in that group earlier on..Ramos hailed fr. the New Christy Minstrels.
@@samburkes7552 Gary/Jules is a co-founder who left the band in early 1967 and returned in late 1969
@@supmyd00d Terry deliberately sang softly
Larry was a cool dude.
A beautiful and well crafted song that remains timeless. ❤
You ask me if there'll come a time
When I grow tired of you
Never, my love
Never, my love
You wonder if this heart of mine
Will lose its desire for you
Never, my love
Never, my love
What makes you think love will end?
When you know that my whole life depends
On you (on you)
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba (ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba)
Never, my love
Never, my love
You say you fear I'll change my mind
I won't require you
Never, my love
Never, my love
How can you think love will end
When I've asked you to spend your whole life
With me? (with me, with me)
Never, my love (never, my love)
Never, my love
Never, my love (never, my love)
Never, my love
Never, my love
Such a beautiful song...
Brings tears to my eyes, reminiscing about when I was a little kid, and life was fun and safe! 🤗
I want to time travel and stay there!
Never get tired of this group of musicians July 1 2024 Canada
Many people don’t realize that following this Ed Sullivan show performance, “Never My Love” became the #1 most-played song on U.S. radio in othe 20th Century, partly because dozens of other artists subsequently recorded their own versions.
Larry Ramos had a silky smooth voice. Those harmonies were heavenly.
Larry also played banjo,check out New Christy Minstrels, he's there.
@@robertcartwright563 Most definitely. I've been getting into the Mamas and the Papas, Mugwumps... Right in there.
Let's bring back 60's years and be happy together again.
I still can't believe they're not in the rock and roll hall of fame!
They were not voted in as they are pure and did not walk and sing the songs of Lucifer.
They never sold out like all the others. They will be in the hall of fame in another dimension.
On reason and one reason only = they never sold out.
@@mikejohn0088 now that the aging fruit is gone from the board. they have a chance. r.ip. terry kirkman who just died today.
They were never considered “cool” but Never My Love is still one of the greatest love songs ever committed to record. It sounds like Burt Bacharach got gang-banged by The Byrds and out came this little cherub that flitted about on wings shooting poison arrows into dreamy couples notions of a starry eyed future.
You have a way with words. A _bad_ way.
@@MajorSeventh
What, you didn’t like the use of cherub?
@@jcoltrane8976 Nah, I was just teasing you.
Well put
That's hilarious!!
I love how Larry puts the harmony in "I wont require you".They are singing this live with the original recording helping out.
It is almost as if he does so to eliminate any doubt that at least their vocals are live.
Actually they're singing live to a Studio Backing Track without the vocals.
Their harmonies are just too amazing they sound like a church choir.
Way back when we just took beautiful harmony like this for granted-it was part and parcel of so many songs.. By today's standards this stuff sounds absolutely towering now.
They were the opening act for the Monterey Pop Festival... that alone makes them cool.
seen it!
I would give anything to have been at Monterey Pop..I was able to make it to Goose lake music festival in my home state of Michigan...its not Monterey pop but was still pretty damn cool
@@Wolverines4ever-sl1js MC5, The Stooges, Jethro Tull, Chicago, a young Bob Seger, and more... what a great lineup. Michigan did it right.
@@SL-vi4tk yes we did it right. Did not realize at the time what a collection of talent. One of the main guys behind the festival was Russ Gibb a legend in music in Michigan. He owned the Grande Ballroom in Detroit which had the cream if the crop of music in the late 60's into the 70's. The ballroom I believe was compatible to both the Fillmores east/west.
@@Wolverines4ever-sl1js Is Grande still there?
I can tell they're singing live for sure. Amazing. I don't know if the instruments are plugged in but whatever that Hawaiian guy is doing on that Fender looks pretty damn tricky.
Edit: the look and smile at 1:48 he gives right at the camera! Lol! 😆 "yes, we're singing live folks."
He was Filipino but yeah
@@shaebryant1916He was born in Hawaii, so he's Hawaiian by birth. 😊
@@shaebryant1916He grew up in Waimea in Kauai…just below the Kauai Cathedrals which may be the most stunning natural formation on Earth…
awsome song , reminds me of time spent in San Francisco many years ago , when it was a beautiful place....
Ya now you gotta drive to Vancouver to see beauty.
San Francisco in the early Sixties was beautiful...until the "decay" set in,...Haight-Ashbury @ 1967. Afterwards the "liberated" people moved in and destroyed everything.
The Association was one of the more beautiful aspects with their musical style. Jim Yester and Larry Ramos,...tops.
Regards
Go to Chrissie Field,Golden Gate Park,avoid Tenderloin and Market St.,the City has changed.
Those harmonies, spot on. Skill, talent, what beautiful music and what a memory of when I was...15 years old and I had an Association album.
This was actually a live performance! It sounds close to the studio version at the beginning, but you can hear some different harmonies that you don't hear in the original recording. Sounds great. Always loved this song.
The "I won't require you" line sticks with me, love it.
Ramos smiling as he sings that line is sweet.
❤❤❤❤❤
This is the real deal-No BS or funky stuff going on
Those tight harmonies could easily sound awkward if not done perfectly. Fortunately for us, they nailed them again and again.
I’m a 70’s baby, but I swear my soul came from the 50’s/60’s era ❤
Rest in Peace Terry Kirkman - Your music was magical!