How Vox Akuma Dominates Male VTubers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Vox Akuma has risen to prominence in the industry as one of the first VTubers to cater to a specific demographic, becoming the most popular EN male VTuber, and one of the most successful in Nijisanji.
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lets not ignore the fact that at the start it was mysta who dominated for a while with his sheer stupidity.
The fucking rice
He got ratioed thanks to rice that it brought Uncle Roger to chime in with his horrible decision
He didn't wash rice so...💀
@@nothing3636 will that cause stomach problems?
@@marmedalmond9958 no it fine I've never washed rice in my life or know anyone who does in places like the USA and UK it really not an issue just people taking food to serious
I think Luxiem as a whole covers such a wide variety of "niches", maybe moreso than any other single "wave" i've seen in a while. Vox ofc with the fanservice/FNAF/ASMR, Mysta with the more slapstick "stupid" comedy and more creative ideas especially for collabs (ie the Luxiem gameshows), Shu with the more tame chill streams, good gameplay and overall support for the other members (as well as his large popularity in JP due to being bilingual and well-versed in the online culture), Luca with his more mainstream Twitch knowledge/online lingo, and Ike with his whole gap moe thing. Overall NijiEN really lucked out finding 5 dudes that have 5 very different persona who can entertain well by themselves but even better as a unit.
Asides from Ike's gap moe, he is also well versed with Vocaloid music, story-based RPG games, and Utsuge Visual Novels. Ike has all sorts of running gags such as finding himself in Jail, getting summoned by opening a soda can, and sometimes showing up on other streams.
@@NinaMarieNPianoKeys Yes and Ike is really chill too
Yeah. I don't even really watch Vox like I do the others (except when hes cooking or doing a horror game), but thinking about Luxeum in retrospect compared to the branches that came after, they are really diverse among each other with what they do.
YOU READ MY THOUGHTS BROO, as you said at the end, 5 dudes that have different persona, THEY ARE ALL SOO ENTERTAINING IN THEIR OWN WAY
It's not luck, Nijisanji's been in this industry for years, they know how to scout talents
people do indeed underestimate the amount of fangirls who willingly spend their entire life savings on anime men
Nope. Justin Bieber and K-pop fans from bands such as BTS proved me otherwise a long time ago.
If we're going further back in entertainment/music history, see the fanboys and fangirls of Elvis and The Beatles (possibly the first "boy band" of its impact on society).
There's a reason why, years ago when all the gaming companies catered to the dude-bro market. Nintendo was seen as being weird for making lot of their games more friendly towards women (colorful, fun characters, adding things like outfit customizations, etc). Women are overwhelmingly more likely to spend money on merchandise and no one was trying to tap into that lol.
I think there are actual studies and statistics that Female fans actually spend more on physical merchandise from their favorite Media as compared to Male fans.
Just see Genshin. Childe/Tartaglia seems to not do well on Gacha sales but his official physical merch tends to sold out really fast.
@@horiy5020 This is actually known in all markets. Women are the primary purchasers and this study is done regularly and each time women are the primary purchasers of all things in all markets.
honestly i think ppl underestimated the fangirl presence in these kinds of communities, or the potential for one until now. straight male weebs aren't the only people that'll swoon and drop paychecks for fanservice from a pretty fictional character on the EN side of things and Vox proved that lol. having the girls and gays on your side is a lot more power than people think
ppl talk like this suddenly created a market for male vtubers, but the truth is very few male vtubers knew how to cater to an audience in a way that would generate this kind of popularity. definitely not saying his or luxiems personality doesn't add to it too tho, they're just fun and refreshing people which is also a major point
There's a reason BTS is so popular female audience is massive whether normal or weebs just like males and male groups will always got more attention vs a single male
There's also a lot of gay and bi men(such as myself), to be marketed to
Thing is, fangirls do exist, but in the long run, it's the most creative and totally giving their all that dominates. Those that are passionate dominate. Top TH-camrs for years have been guys. Heck, even CDawgVa who was known for the legendary 97% female audience number is now leaning into 60-40-ish range, with more male audience now.
Even youtube is known to be 56-44 : male-female (or something along those lines). I think one shouldn't ignore the gay"baiting" and swooning to get female audiences. But in the end, it gets capped too fast as the best way to get ahead on YT is to be the best, most catchy, and pretty much having fun with the platform as much as possible.
(Growing the audience is a related but should be considered an entirely separate beast in my opinion).
The problem with such catering fanservice is that it becomes the perfect breeding ground for the unhinged toxic parasocial fans. Which is what we precisely saw happen with voxs chat spiraling to a point where they attacked reimu etc so going this route for populairty also has downsides and i think that why its not more common or maybe they just dont feel comfortable with it.
@@kmel3588 With vtubers, it's a fine line between doing your job and forming parasocial relationships, and it can be borderline impossible at a point to keep your audience under control.
Another thing I'd like to mention is that Vox (Mysta as well) stream in SEA and Asia friendly timezones. The amount popularity Luxiem managed to garner here in the Philippines is quite impressive. The female asian market is quite big. There's a reason kpop boy groups are quite popular.
They moved to Asian time zones when they realized most of their fanbase is there (same reason VOX did Chinese duolingo streams)
I'm surprised Nousagi didn't mention this. Nobody expected Luxium to do so well mainly because nobody would've expected EN male vtubers to attract an audience predominantly outside of North America/Europe, and in mostly Asian countries. That is the key to their success, and what separates them from other EN vtuber groups before them who saw the most popularity in North America (and to a lesser extent Europe), of which the audience is mainly Male so far. It's also why Iluna didn't do as well as Luxium despite having the most hype since them. This was because they were made to appeal to not only a mixed fanbase but they were targeted at growing the North American market, in my opinion. And it was only mildly successful because the female audience in North America has not really bought into the concept as much as Asian countries yet. AnyColor is definitely still testing the waters and I wonder if we will ever see another Luxium in terms of success, because it is hard to recreate those circumstances while still trying to grow their business beyond the current audience.
Also, it's not like the boyfriend experience hasn't been tried before in the male vtuber market, it was just that Luxium found the right formula of attracting female fans in Asian countries while feeling unique because they speak English instead of Japanese in that specific niche. They have a combination of personalities you didn't really see in the JP groups, and that made them stand out, and the fact that they could pull in English-speaking fans was just a bonus.
@@wisdumcube You could say that the Luxiem effect in Asia is the same as Hololive Generation 3 Fantasy had on Overseas outside of Japan. Only that it was for Females/Gay or Bi males.
@@MrTigracho Agree. That, plus viral video clips are what really what made the English-speaking audience take off before HoloEN's debut.
in fact VOX even now puts CST (China Standard Time) on his schedules
Correction, the *real reason* why Vox is dominating the Male Vtuber space is because *Depressed Nousagi is only using 2% of his Male Vtubing powers.* Depressed Nousagi would easily hit 10 MAGMILLION subs if he ever got serious lol
Brun fr, he might as well be my oshi if he didn't document vtubing related events
Get MAGGED ON
Fax
His depression is his power.
@@Jonathanloh1992 haha lol 🤣
I'm like 0% into his fanservice content but 100% into his collabs. He has the amazing ability to not only fill one niche which makes him even more successful.
Same here. He is pretty good at Collabs.
Same. I don't watch Vox at all(I fear his fanbase) but I highly enjoy him in collabs.
SAME, that fanservice rp isnt my thing, but I love Vox a lot, he is an amazing person!!
@@Nxy_Di he only does rp asmr once a week. most of his content is playing rpgs, minecraft, doing collabs and zatsudans.
@@bored_boar I feared that part of his fanbase too but after everything now shit chilled after he delt with em so now chats are either talking about pilk, being way too sappy or horny or just shitposting.
But his content still golden even if I don't watch much asmrs, he's just funny and batshit overall, beyond the fanservice his entertainment factor is prob why he still successful
"How Vox Akuma dominates Male Vtubers"
You got that right
*looks at Shoto and Mysta*
Omg I hate that I knew what it mean eventually💀
For real.
💀
XDD
WHHHHHY
WHy must you remind me of the bottoms 0)(
In the end the success of Vox Akuma is good news to any man trying to enter the business. It proves there's a market for male VTubers. And that's great tbh.
It's because he doesn't make fun of the demographic, he view it as a good thing and he love his fandom, he also respect Male Attracted sexuality and also he is very creative, his Knight asmr stream is more than an ASMR it's a freaking movie haha
Yeah he's very lgbt friendly ! ^^
I am gonna add that besides the amazing voice, natural talent, and niche, His design is sooooo good. I truly like how Simple but effective it is!! And it fits his voice , his demon persona and his personnality.
Well, gotta thank Lam mama for that, the artist behind Takt Op Destiny.
@@nightday2030 yup incredibly talented.
But still think amongst all vtuber models LAM designed Vox is the most impeccable 👌🏻.
Not to say the others aren’t fabulous, Fulgur is my bloody oshi. But Vox has that je ne sais quoi.
@@nightday2030 LAM also made ollie right? he's really out there making successful children woah
@@atlas1897 That's right, LAM works always so pleasant to look. No wonder most of them are so successful.
What I love about the luxiem bois is they give this unique content, yes their content most likely already exists, but they give there own unique twist to it and make those ideas like there own (e.g. vox asmr and Mysta's "cooking" vids)
His secret is his sheer knowledge of FNAF lore
I'm glad to see the bois getting more mainstream success, hopefully holostars en follows a similar strategy to nijisanji with regards to collabs
As someone whos watching Luxiem and Tempus, I enjoy both energies the two group offer and can offer to their sempais.
I believe Vesper recently gave his thoughts about collabing and its really brought some discussion i will say. He does have a point that some fanbases being brought together thanks to collabs dont always mix but its nice if they collab they interact with their sempais and hangout. I mean thanks to FAN DEMAND, tempus' collab ban got shortened so thats saying something
I rather not. Tempus doing very well just being themselves. No one shouldn't chase someone coattails because sometimes those coattails can fall off.
@@vgc_ivan8391 yeah, I’d have to agree. Tempus has their thing while Luxiem has theirs.
Actually I dont want Tempus to be another Luxium. Luxium has its own charm with own fanbase while Tempus has its own.
Luxiem has a large parasocial kpop fanbase, which I rather not see it in Tempus. Tempus is currently doing well in their own way by expanding both gender audience. No need to follow the same route with Nijisanji EN.
vox’s horny content is also not like any other horny content, it’s CREATIVE af. the way he can create whole stories for ASMR and improv lines that still hit the spot for a lot of people takes a lot of skill. his recent ASMR streams especially are more story oriented instead of pure fanservice, but nevertheless still tugged at people’s emotions.
the whole fantasy trilogy is such a gem 👌mwah, chef's kiss. I can't believe it mostly improvised
Never forgot what happened to the knight....
As a kindred myself I want to address some things.
Any fandom in general have toxic people in it. It's not just the simping culture, it's the cancel culture too. They are everywhere! But as I said, I'm a kindred and I can say that Vox community have some of the most polite, creative, welcoming and warm people I ever met. And even tho Vox granted and recognize the hornyness of kindred, he is not afraid to set his boundaries.
On the other hand, all member of Luxiem have never being exposed to this kind of numbers and success, soooooo...yeah, as you mention he already have some controversies and maybe he didn't address it in the best way possible but we must put ourselves in his shoes. Fame is a wild creature and it gets dangerous the most you grow and since the Reimu incident he has gained more confidence and even recently he said that the way Mysta is more emphatic in those kind of situations set an example for him to follow.
But again, as you said, I can verify that Vox is very talented and harworking too! All his ASMR's are improvs. The has stated before that he only think about some plot points but in its majority he works with the mood and how the chat responds to what he is saying. And not all his ASMR's are spicy or horny! There are some others that can help you relax or have a heavy lore in them (like the knight one).
The way he can interact with anyone and recognize other streams boundaries and how far he can get with them is also something I really like about him. He is very polite and just his manner to communicate with others is such a charm.
He can be unhinged and in his channel he can talk about anything (from wholesome to s3xual) and feel comfortable with kindred and kindred feel the same way with him cause he has been inclusive in a lot of ways (LGBTQ+ community, body acceptance, etc).
What I'm trying to say is HE IS NOT PERFECT but he is a creative, caring and hardworking VTuber always wanting to improve his skills and him as a person. Even tho Vox work in a more R-18 tier than his co-workers, they recognize how good Vox are in doing what he does.
And last but not least even tho Vox are really popular in SEA he is also really popular en Latinoamerica. Many of them go unnoticed because they prefer to communicate in English, others, due to the language barrier, prefer not to interact much in the chat but they are always present even though the schedules are not so good for them.
Thank you for saying it so I don't have to, fellow kindred!
FUCKIN PREECH
but seriously I'm so proud of how far he's come, despite the slip ups he truly did learn, grown and changed. he continues to re-address his boundaries and old incidents like Reimu's and taking it as a lesson to be learned and continues to admit his fault and changing for the better cuz of it. Now despite the reputation of kindred, they all seemed to be chill, funny and welcoming as far iv seen and that's probably due to Vox himself encouraging this type of warm environment more so than most. Where many people genuinely changed for the better because of him and the community for their encouragements. It's so impressive that after all that, my respect for him increased even more so. And honestly you took the words right outta my mouth
Even if you don't like fanservice, I think you can still enjoy vtubers like Vox because if you actually watch his streams and get to know him, he's very down to earth and a huge nerd (smash and fnaf). Personally I don't like fanservice, but I enjoy Vox 's presence because of that.
I guess he has a lot of appeal to a wide audience. He can be charming and flirtatious, or he can go gorilla mode about his niche interests. He feels very real and honest about himself.
Some people doubted male vtubers because people seem to forget (or straight up deny due to sexism) that
A) women can also be weebs
B) women can also be thirsty for cute anime boys and for streamers
C) women can make some of the most dedicated fan communities. Seriously, did people not learn from Justin Biever, 1 direction, twilight, the freaking Beatles?
Yeah, and within time, as anime becomes even more mainstream, so Vtubing will, thus as result more girls will join the wagon.
!
This means nobody is truly safe from the rabbit hole.
@@MrTigracho Let them fall into the rabbit hole too, more people to vibe with
Tbh I'm male and I watch him. I not into dudes tbh. He's just funny.
@@agentdon1760 I mean that too, but people where skeptical because they thought vtuber=simps thirsting and didn't consider much more... and also didn't consider women thirsting and simping either
@@ElyssiaNikos Fair...I really don't really simp for Vtubers. I will admit some like Kronii are hot. But I don't really care if they look good. If they make me laugh like Magni or in this case Vox I'mma love them
People seem to think Vox content is 99% his ASMR streams and they couldn't be more wrong, his regular gaming or zatsudan streams are really enjoyable, they're missing out big time
Luxiem as a whole got me into the Vtubing fanbase in the first place. Was never interested beforehand, then "Hope in the Dark" popped up and I was instantly hooked.
I then watched each of the Luxiem members' streams (starting with Luca, then Vox, Mysta, Ike, and Shu). Love their content, got interested in Nijisanji in general. Love the rest of EN.
Joined through Luxiem, stayed for the EN Fam!
The idea that there was no demand for male vtubers until Luxiem happened is just untrue. When Nijisanji announced auditions for the first generation of their EN branch, many fans badly wanted them to debut male vtubers. This was A WHOLE YEAR before Luxiem's debut. To everyone in the market demographic of male vtubers, we knew there was a big demand. We all wanted EN male vtubers and were just waiting for it to finally happen. When Hololive EN came out, we couldn't count on Holostars EN becoming a thing due to how badly Cover handled Holostars JP. Many of us were just waiting for NijiEN (or literally anybody) to finally break the ice.
Facts
Sometimes Depressed Nousagi really need a fact check.
yeah
like the JP males are doing fine and kuzuha was the most popular niji ( even in the western fanbase ) before the salome boom
I know he talked about EN only but still, idk where's this " there's no demand for male vtubers " bullshit came from lmao
@@ciel5185 A lot of the most popular members in NijiJP are the guys. I still remember watching Kagami Hayato's 3D debut concert and him breaking all vtuber records at the time with highest concurrent viewership and highest superchat in one stream. A lot of EN fans watched ChroNoiR, Meshers, Kagami, etc. before Luxiem. It's just that ig back then we weren't as 'loud' as HololiveJP's side bc they were more streamlined to EN fans bc of Coco. Most people who believe that there was no demand for male vtubers just never looked beyond the Hololive bubble until recently.
@@raediances3269 yep exactly, and kagami's record was beat by fuwa, and recently Leos had the highest ccv + supas for niji 3d debuts. Also what ever happened with gaku's 3d lol
Yeah " I don't watch male vtubers so it means there's no demands for it " is what all those takes boil down to
I think the problem is that Traditionally, male vtubers more often emulate traditional male western streamers, rather than other vtubers, which means they don't see as wide success because 'normal streamer' is already an incredibly oversaturated market, and the vtuber avatar is more likely to just be seen as a gimmick. Like, you're more likely to see a male emulate pewdiepie than Gura, even if it would make more sense to be emulating gura in this scenario. Vox really gets his fanbase, he sees the degeneracy within us all and dives head first into it, like any good vtuber would. Seiso is dead and we killed it boys. Now excuse me as I go try and lick Vox through my screen.
I'm completely new to the community but every time I see takes like these, I'm always so genuinely surprised how people used to think that there's no market for male vtubers or that luxiem's success is surprising. I spent half of my life with kpop and one of the universal truths you learn in kpop fandoms is that fangirls/fangays have the real power and the influx of toxicity is the debuff that comes with it.
In vtubing male model indeed have hard chance... They're of course have great fanbase but compare to female vtuber especially hololive girls
Succes male vtuber which get eyes of public really rare
It also depends where you work. Nijisanji historically always was the place where males had better chances of suceed.
Holopro however was not. Hell chances are that it works as a debuff. Meaning it has more negatives than for what is worth it. In a way, I think the project of Holostars EN is to prove this wrong in the EN side of things, in order to attract more male talents to their branch.
Basically, Cover tries their damn best to compete with Anycolor for Male talent now.
@@MrTigracho you have a point
I think because niji already make a ton male talent from the beginning and push diversity in their collab
But still people especially EN side not have big interest in male vtuber like people have interest in kpop industry
So even its niji with their already in the game of male vtuber industry, luxiem still suprise people
@@pangolin_aed5617 I mean even with Luxiem's success. Most of their audience are from East Asia and not from Western countries. This is primarily true not only for Luxiem but Nijisanji as a whole, they seem to have a lager presence in Japan and China as compared to Holo who is more popular in Western regions like NA.
It's to say that the Western viewer demographic is still primarily made up of straight men who only has interest in female Vtubers while female viewers are still the minority.
Easy: Fanservise, FNAF Gaming Streams, collabs and caters towards a niche interests (Mainly ASMR)
The dichotomy this demon gave like...he can be a sexy mofo but then hes talking about PILK the next minute (unless its like a ASMR stream)
As well having a good voice and a coomer sense of humor. Among other things.
I would say that the Luxiem boys in particular are all extremely talented and really showed on the large stage what a group of male Vtubers can bring. Owing to this as well as their predecessors' success, HoloStars EN Tempus group went an entirely different direction and they seem to be doing absolutely fine with each member already being more subscribed than almost all of the JP HoloStars members. However, I'm still of the opinion that when it comes to agency Vtubers one of the most important things is being able to collab with different individuals to spread your brand awareness which is one of the reasons why I believe that the HoloStars always remained so small as they almost never collab'd with Hololive members and certainly never spread their wings overseas that I've ever seen. Tempus has an advantage here where they're under the management of Hololive EN instead of being their own separate thing and we've already seen one example of a collab between Vesper and Calli which came into effect much earlier than the normal collab ban timer due to fan demand. Once all the boys are able to get their collab game on and find out who they jive best with I feel like they'll continue to grow in a similar fashion to ID gen 3 aside from Kobo who completely eclipsed the rest.
To add on collab topic, Luxiem having the ability to not only collab with girls of niji but also other niji branches/ indie vtubers help them give that reach that Holostars sadley was never given. The only reason I knew Holostars was because of mousey's fangirling and Oli actively interacting with them. It makes them seem more sepret compaired to any of the girls in Hololive, almost like covor is scared for bois to even say hi to the girls while Nijisanji doesn't have any issue with Vox saying hi to a Jp or Kn member guy or girl. Holo tempist seam to be breaking that curse with Cali interactions, Kronii stating that she want to collab with them, Bei and Oli reaction, ect ect. Honestly the tempist bois are a lot of fun but if Covor keeps them sepret then sadley they'll just be in Hololive giant shadow, but I hope that won't be the case.
Why are there two full on paragraphs above me 💀
@@ohwell1547 Fubuki already addressed this. There is no Collab bans between genders in Hololive. Anyone can Collab with anyone.
It's just that the boys are reluctant to take the first step as they may come off as creepy or leeching so they mostly wait for the girls to approach first. So the onus is on the girls.
Even then, it's very dependent on if they have interest to do so. Forced collabs for the sake of collabs is just as bad if not worse than the keeping idols pure mentality as two people with no common interest in a Collab together is just awkward. Many of the girls are also introverts, socially awkward, or particularly on the JP side, wary of their own fanbase.
@@blakraven66 Idk why theyre so obsessed with holostars collab with holojp like really though or just Nijisanji fans who dont really know Hololive? Just like how these people always says Cover doesnt want them to collab with the boys etc. when fucking Matsuri and Towa collabing with any males a hundred of times now
You got one thing wrong, mate. HolostarsJP's biggest problem in the past was that *they were actually too successful overseas*. HolostarsJP's approach on being BroTubers and refusing to cater to gachikois and fujoshis meant they connected more to overseas audience. Which wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the fact that give or take, about 70% of their overall audience were overseas viewers back then, and that meant that until they build enough numbers of domestic JP viewers, they couldn't do a lot of local events. Their biggest hurdle for the longest time was actually gaining traction domestically, not overseas.
I wasn’t a fan of Vtubers and Luxiem surprised me. I didn’t fangirl for them but was genuinely surprised at how chill they were.
Their likes and hobbies makes it feel like you’re chilling with the boys.
Fanservice wise, doesn’t really bother me but Vox has his voice to melt anyone who listens.
His hobbies and real talk (same with the other Lux boys) are pretty deep and in such an open way that it’s fun to listen too.
I'm a straight male scumbag, and I can say I enjoy the fuck out of not only Vox, but Luxiem in general. Although I don't consume their most suggestive content, the rest of their stuff is genuinely funny and entertaining.
Although I do wish they would dial the yaoi bait down a little more, not because I dislike it, but because the same joke repeated 100 times gets tiring, but I guess such yaoi bait is part of their success, so...
Repeating jokes 100 times tell it not funny anymore just kind of comes with vtubers and the internet at large sadly. But yeah luxium just makes good content even if some of their fan base is terrifying
I try to remember that the jokes are always new to someone just discovering them. Unfortunately it's part of the job to continue introducing their audience to the environment.
But also, friends do that type of lame stuff, lol. Same jokes over and over as years go by, adding context based building meaning on the references over time 😂
@@zivens.2407 that is true, I found most of those kinds of jokes funny when I first viewed their content, although not being as repetitive does allow for more people to converse about stuff that has only happened once (such as things they may mention about one another) and it keeps the slightly longer term fans on edge, looking forward to hearing something new--probs why I appreciate Mysta Rias or Fulgur Ovid sm, they're never afraid to make new jokes with what they're presented and mostly only ever tell their experiences once and never again (this also gives opportunity to aspiring clippers but that's another paragraph-)
Sometimes, those jokes are repeated by the fans/chat a lot more than the talents/liver themselves. Nothing annoy me more than chat suddenly said the same joke out of nowhere
Now I rarely open chat while watching the stream
if you prefer less yaoi content then i definitely recommend watching shu yamino a bit more. he never even dables in that side of the spectrum like ever unless hes collaborating with other members of luxiem
Speaking on the parasocial side , his reprimands to the audience have actually worked ,it might not seem like that if you see his live chat but the Scolding wasn't regarding that as much as the way fans interact with Vox coworkers and friends
Tho the live chat is a bit more calmed down than before, as far as I've seen , trauma dump or weird donations are less than 4 months ago and while is true that some people have a sort of sasaeng/stalker Attitude towards him and they switch from love to want to end him in a second, i think that happens with most vtubers who have a big East asian audiences sadly.
As for people "concerned" about his very risky suggestive content, he has said (and i think is incredibly clear just by watching him for more than 5 minutes) that his content is not meant for people under 18.
Vox also says the most based and wild shit while in the most chill tone ever.
vox is the personification of what makes yakuza series characters appeal to women... cool yet funny, mature yet not old...
Tell you what though. Nijisani's new male wave is gonna have a hard time living up to Luxiem as the expectations are sky high by the time they debut.
I hope the new wave will cater to a different audience instead.
Agreed. But also they are supposed to be specialized in gaming which implies a new audience interested in sweaty gaming. Cause everyone in NijiEN plays games to some extent. But there is a lack of mainly gaming oriented streamers; except for well Selen and a bit Shu and a little bit of Fulgur getting hooked on Valo. So maybe it will attract a completely new audience.
@@Shia-san i mean most established streamers for gaming like speed runners are all live webcam streamers. Often streaming footage of their hands on their controller. A speed runner seems less authentic as a vtuber in that sense.
@@ceresbane Makes sense. But NijiJP has very popular gamers like Kanae. So maybe EN is just trying to replicate that?
i dont think luxiem's explosive success will ever be replicated, it was truly nijisanji hitting the jackpot. however, their success has certainly elevated the EN branch as a whole and brought lots of attention to their seniors and juniors
If i had to guess the reason for every luxiem members success itll be like this
Vox- fan service, humour, and voice -for simps
Mysta- book stupid, emotionally intelligent, rice-for jokesters
Luca- himbo, twitch/internet lingos -for people who likes himbos and mostly watch twitch 👍
Shu- gaming, calm - for gamers
Ike- calm, duality -for people who like surprises and music
The only man that dominates without T-posing
man I love vox, I don't watch his asmr and fanservice streams(not into it) but when he is just having fun with his friends he is so fuvking funny, I doubt he would be as successful if he was only entertaining to people that are attracted to man
I see a correlation here between BTS and Luxiem/Vox regarding their popularity. Embracing female fans. If you make it clear that female fans are not just a demographic you tolerate, but one that you respect and connect with, that will have an impact.
I definitely think that Vox creating a space where sexual expression, particularly from women, is accepted and encouraged was a very smart move, whether it was intentional or not. He managed to carve a niche that didn’t really exist in that form before, and he was rewarded with immense success
Speaking as a bi-fan it is kinda like a juggling act when a male VTuber panders somewhat to fanservice but is also an absolute bro. Oga from Holostars comes to mind, he's genuinely so freaking funny and he is also emotionally mature and wise about his fans, environment, genmates and VTubing in general. He plays it safe, respectfully and yet natural when collabing with female VTubers or fanboying about his oshi Himemori Luna (high culture right there)
That being said his voice also melts me and I adore when things get kinda spicy, even if he mostly does it for the meme of it.
Anyways, different folks, different strokes, y'know what I mean? I'm also so happy HolostarsEN is doing great, I had hope on them but was afraid it could have flopped.
I don't follow holostars and I don't think I will. Ninisanji is more comfortable.
@@quinny98 My best friend's oshi is Pomu, so that's the extent of my experience with NijisanjiEN, I've watched some streams with him. In the early days I was fairly into Ange Katrina from JP but that's pretty much it with my Niji experience.
Oga's oshi is who?!😲 Okay that seriously surprised me lmao. Moments like these make reading comments fun and not cancer lol. While I haven't really watched HolostarsJP beyond clips, (I watch Tempus now tho, when my internet speed permits it) I am proud to say that I dragged my friend to the Holostars hole. She really went from "oh, vtubers? Good for you~" to "my wallet! It cries for mercy, but for Holostars merch...💸💸" within months xD
@@HudaefCares Haha, good to hear. There's a clip where Oga gets a signed Luna card while opening Hololive cards and he gets so excited. Getting friends into the rabbit hole is always evil 😈
@@quinny98 Understandable, i think the Holostar boys are great but i don’t watch them either. I don’t watch NijiEN though. Same for HoloEN. I just realized i’m a filthy weeb.
I really dont get how people thought there was no market for male vtubers when theres so many otome games, popular male Kpop/Jpop bands and bunch of animes popular with women
I'm not a Vox fan tbh he's the only one whose streams I don't watch in Luxiem but from the clips and collabs I've seen he's naturally funny and entertaining, and while it's definitely not my cup of tea, he really is a master of charming his fans. He really knows how to talk to women, how to flirt, and with his ASMR from what I heard he does a great job forming narratives and making it immersive and intimate.
I cannot bring myself to watch vox’s asmr or fan service streams, but I do enjoy his tamer, gaming streams. Sensuality is not all he is, but he is very open about it which is admirable. The good thing is that people can watch whatever they like to watch because of the variety of content. I mainly watch another member who fits what I enjoy more but it’s always good to give everyone a shot.
Vox really did surprise me when he originally debuted, along with Lux as well, to be as popular as they are. Though it was a nice refresh (sort of) as I had basically watched only cute Waifu’s since I had been in my honey moon phase. Very nice and informative video and keep up the good work man.
Vox is tapping into that 93%
Wake up Oshi new vtuber lore video just dropped
I think he is extremely attractive and respectful. For me, I became his fan from seeing a clip about he discussing the situation of woman or gay men's sexuality were sort of being depressed or teased, which is really bad and really ridiculous, but tbh I've never thought about this issue before. His perspective of things always make me love him a lot more.
Also, he really streams a lot, I believe his hardworking deserves everything.
All in all, I think Vox's missteps have been pretty small for how far he's gotten down this largely untrodden path.
Same. It's mostly just crazy fans and the consequences of rapid popularity. Not really anything groundbreakingly bad.
Also Twitter and Social Media simply overreacting to every little thing and inflating drama to some of the littlest shit imaginable.
Ok so im 100% confident in my heterosexuality, but vox manages to bump it down to a 99.9% 😩
I might have something to tell you
@@momdad1818 So how do we tell him..
@@bored_boar Not sure bestie, he might figure some things out soon🤭
Again, pandering to a female audience is lucrative af, and I'm surprised people are surprised at it. As a female weeb who enjoys her fanservice Vox and Luxiem at large filled a void in the english speaking community. I think a lot of the times male vtubers fall into the trap of emulating other non-vtubing streamers, who don't have a big female audience. If you want to be popular as a male vtuber you have to get the girls, gays and theys, and Vox realized it like no other.
While i don't really watch vox, i gotta respect the balls he had, most vtubers piss themselves even thinking of not setting up pointless boundaries, but he didn't care and went along with it until he got basically forced to say something, Streaming is a inherently parasocial hobby you like it or not, even the people that say "i'm not parasocial" are the prime example of that, it was about time someone had the balls to go this hard on it.
I personally think people don't even know the actual meaning of "Parasocial" anymore and it just became a new word they throw around to form some narrative without actually knowing a comprehensive idea of that said topic.
It's basically the new "Idol Culture" argument people shallowly blanket over when issues regarding deranged fans happen to a Vutber.
@@horiy5020 You are in fact correct, people don't know the meaning of the word and just throw it because they heard it from the cesspool.
Streaming is inherently parasocial and not acknowledging it is part of the problem. I think the vtuber fandom including Depressed Nousagi really need to re-educate themselves what parasocial actually means because the word itself is actually neutral. The difference is whether the parasocial relationship EVERY streamer has with their fanbase is healthy or not
NIJIEN STAFF: How about we take the limiters OFF this time?
Tazumi: *nodding intensifies*
Your videos are always so informative, not to mention enjoyable! I respect how you're able to look at your outdated content subjectively, and I look forward to your more recent and future uploads!
Perfectly timed with the thing where Reimu was tricked into retweeting fan art with a Chinese death curse aimed at Vox by exploiting her lack of knowledge that happened a day ago.
Context?
Also, your username brings back memories.
@@DoctorDeath147 - It's exactly what it sounds like pretty much.
There was Reimu fanart she retweeted, but it was bait. At least the account that made the tweet (not sure if it was the artist of the work) seemed to just do it to try and get her to retweet a hate message blatantly in the username aimed at Vox.
Are your memories related to Bad Company in any way?
@@MarlowPreston sorry. I wasn't specific. I was wondering about the death curse part.
Also, yeah, Bad Company 2 was one of my favorites back in the day.
@@DoctorDeath147 The person’s username was in Chinese. Reimu retweeted the fanart without translating the username because she, like any reasonable person, assumed it was safe. Turns out, that username translated to some way of wishing death upon Vox. Which, again, to be clear, is not something that any reasonable person would worry about checking for. Well, now they’re gonna have to, but I’m referring to when Reimu made the retweet.
@@Toberumono thanks
the title. . .
It was fully intentional
It's even cooler seeing Vox Akuma dominated because if you know his history, you know just how much experience he has at voice acting and how masterful he is at playing a character.
It's... honestly really heart-warming seeing the heights he's reached, and nostalgic looking back on how he got there.
Never underestimate girl simps
Babe, new Depressed Nousagi video dropped
A video about Vox Akuma dominating men sounds like material for a very different site. It wouldn't even be out of character.
Amazing video as always Nousagi 😘
The last part about luxiem carved a path for male en vtubers hit hard, I started vtubing because I was watching a lot of streams from Luca
Honestly, I think the openness of Luxiem from the start to interact and collab with the NijiEN girls also helped keep their content fresh and fun. Hopefully StarsEN could do something similar in the future, but alas a different fanbase and history.
But yes, I love the NijiEN boys content which shows how talented they are as content creators.
As for Vox's domination of the Male side of the English VTuber community, going all in on the BFE train while at the same time being the pioneer on the space leaves an indelible mark. As you pointed out they are effectively monopolizing the space and even with the subsequent male NijiEN waves it has been only slowly diffusing in terms of fanbases as the more recent members are much more cautious.
There's a reason One direction and BTS and other male groups got so popular because whether youre a normie or weeb female fans are massive just like males collabing with girls doesn't really matter as long as they collab with others whether female or male just to have fresh content
I feel like Stars EN could take the route from their JP senpais and collab with indies and other minor agencies, but IDK... not everyone did that, and also I think circunstances made them more motivated to do it.
And given how restrictive seems Holo EN to be with collabing outside the company(As well the freaking tribalists), I believe the boys might be limited to only Holopro, which would be a loss for the viewers.
Hell, chances are that they collab with indies or other agencies 1st than with Nijisanji.
@@MrTigracho What are you talking about Vespers already collabed with calli? Their was such intense fan demand that the EN management actually said F it and let collabs happen early I think bae collabed with one as well?
@@MrTigracho "how restrictive seems Holo EN to be with collabing outside the company" They've collabed outside the company plenty of times. Trash Taste, Faye, Pikamee, Vshojo, and others
@@danielleasewala2225 BAE talked about them but she was a holostar fan even before joining hololive so it's not exactly unexpected, no idea about a collab though, not all holo EN members are willing to collab with dudes.
How Vox Akuma Dominates Male VTubers
They ask him politely
Always something useful to think about in a DN video. This one no exception. Thanks for the great work!
Title was perfectly worded.
I loved that you played B-roll of Nazuna while describing the pain of being a historian experiencing tomorrow's events.
ah, great time to see an appreciation post of my oshi ❤️
Great vid, bro.
I agree with everyone that people underestimate fangirls. I've been into vtubers even before holoen existed, I didn't fully go the rabbit hole because there's no one that actually appealed to my taste until luxiem appeared. All I can say is they own me now including my house /j
Thank you for this video, very informational🤓
Never underestimate fujoshi THIRST.
How Vox Akuma dominates male Vtubers 😏
He's the gigachad of all male vtubers. Who HASN'T he banged 🤣
Box man topping everyone
He uploaded!!
I'd like to post this quote by him from Jazz on the Clock, "Yeah we're the heroes, yeah we're the KINGS!"
👑
Yeah baby he uploaded wohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I think the market is still so young, there are a ton of niches just waiting for somebody to fill them. But I don't think you can fill them intentionally, by design. You need a certain base personality to fill a vtuber role.
I recently checked out Phase Connect because of a comment in your livestream and I found an amazing one: Ashelia Rinkou. I'm not going to say what niche she fills (you could mix some of the *dere words, but none of them describe her perfectly, so I'm not going to try.) In any case, she blew my mind. So there's a lot of space yet unexplored!
0:41 I love the phrasing, on brand with Vox
That's quite an interesting title you got there....
This is a cool analysis vid and this is just a suggestion but it would be even cooler if you talked about the new era of Nijisanji JP and their new projects with KADOKAWA and BALOCONY which is called Lie:Verse Liars. I think it would be a nice topic for you to cover because not that many overseas fans are aware of how huge this project will be for the anime and vtuber industry since I surprisingly haven't seen that many people talk about it. Especially for Nijisanji because it's a mixed media light novel and manga project which features the Nijisanji livers like Kanae, Elu, etc. and famous anime industry VAs like Takuya Eguchi. The light novel is going to release tomorrow as I am writing this so it would be cool if you made a video about it!
OHHHHHHHHHH !
I never feel hype like this before
When you drop terms like "the big three" or refer to specific instances or memes it would be helpful, if you would show said thing in the video while you talk, even if it is just for a few frames. Makes your content more accessible.
i agree, im pretty deep into the rabbit hole but i had to think about who the big three are for a second, too (hololive, nijisanji, and vshojo i think)
Vox sense of humor is just so good, I don't really care about his ASMR streams and whatnot, but when my man is doing a collab or playing a game is always a fun watch time I say, me and my gf just can't get enough of him lol and I will say more, now that Magni is in Tempus I see great potential in Holostars, knowing this man's past live he's truly a gem.
For those who want to know who Magni was in his past life just read at the end, I really don't care about this taboo shit, if you don't want to know just don't read it's simple.
Magni is Professor Lando at youtube and twitch, great guy and funny AF.
I found the world of vtuber through Vox ASMR lmao I found it acccidentally hahaha
Also I don't get some males thinking that fangirls doesn't exist when a fandom consist of females always get popular, this can also applied to anime that bring females viewer because of attractive male characters Like in AOT who has Levi, JJK who has Gojo, Spyfam who has Loid, Haikyu, Hero Academia etc. haha anyways I love Vox and I hope he will get more successful in the future
As someone who's been a proud kindred since he debuted, something that I've always appreciated about him is how LGBT+ & trans-inclusive he is. It makes me feel welcomed in his streams.
I also really appreciate his takes on certain things. Our demon is very based, from his views on male attracted sexuality to his thoughts on Star Wars to his view on mental health and being good to yourself, Vox is truly a breath of fresh air. Trust me-- he's a lot more than just fan service. He's a genuine, sweet guy and while he can be a dumbass sometimes (well more like all of the time) he truly is my kamioshi and I wouldn't change that for the world.
Amen to that ☝
Too be honest I really wanted english male vtubers because I had always watched the jp male side but could only watch translated clips. I had found vtubers through HoloEns first wave but never watched them. I found Holostars and then Nijisanji with a lot of male vtubers but could never watch full streams just translated clips. Then Nijisanji came with Luxiem and I was watching them everyday because I enjoyed them and understood what they were saying
2:56 hello, people with big monitors like me, thanks. Nousagi... for the amazing video once again...
hell yeah!
There's only 1 reason why he dominates: he's built different
Facts
Speaking facts 💯
Not really... the guy's just charming
That video title radiates "Did I stutter?" Energy
Wooo!!!!
vox is my favorite male vtuber overall, he's just so damn funny and entertaining to watch
oh hell yeah
I usually never really looked at VTubers. Just recently I have been checking out who they were and stuff. I have seen some Silvervale and like some stuff here and there. They look like they have a lot of fun. I also noticed the lewd at times. But yeah, they have fun. They have loads of laughs and just have fun with everyone.
as a kindred, can't say i disagree with anything here. you got it all spot on. will forever love my big monkey man👍
damn right he does
7:06 why do ppl, especially ppl who mainly make hololive content, say nijisanji is not popular? luxiem made nijisanji popular to the oversea viewers, and not in general.
Nijien, not Nijisanji
@@ausgod538 ?
Nousagi mentioned Nijisanji as a whole,
"Vox and Luxiem actually have been the root of the reason why Nijisanji's brand power and popularity has been growing as of late", Nijisanji was already super popular in Japan even before NijiEN was a thing.
Luxiem made Nijisanji popular to the OVERSEA viewers. Just like HoloMyth made Hololive popular to the OVERSEA viewers
@@andikim1498 and I'm saying that refers only to nijien, not nijisanji in general. He can say what he wants, doesn't mean it's correct
@@ausgod538 Idk, It's pretty normal for people to think Nijisanji is not popular just because they don't see much news in English about them (you hardly hear about NijiJP from those "vtuber news" youtube channels).
If he really did mean NijiEN in that part I was originally referring to, and knew that Nijisanji as a whole was popular, he would have made a little bit more Niji related videos. In my opinion, his past Niji related videos are pretty bland: they lack research, he gives false information and not very compelling analysis/theories etc.
So it's pretty obvious he doesn't see Nijisanji as a big deal (or sees them as a lesser) compare to Hololive, and maybe sees Nijisanji's popularity as some sort of luck.
Everything what I wrote is just my observation btw
I'm going to put this here, whoever reads this thanks, and sorry for the many possible typos
I get you not vibing with the content a vtuber makes, nor their humor, nor their fanbase. Vox is also worthy of getting criticism because like every person out there he is human and we make mistakes (even more when you are suddenly followed by so many people in such a little time and you don't know how to deal with them) but why so many can't see the hard work that he put in to get where he is and only can put "targets to fujoshis" "most of his fanbase is chinese" "give x a few months and we will see"
This looks like a child playground orz
I find it very interesting to see what causes an individual in this industry to grow since it's fairly new and changes fast, yet people still only care about company war or down play someone's efforts and talents if they are not of their liking or in the company they like (don't be a fan of any kind of company to start with, be a fan of the talent)
Before anyone comes and says I'm a Luxiem simp or whatever, I find Tempus growth amazing, I don't follow them closely but their streams are very entertaining and pull very good numbers taking into account the sub count, they can only go up and I'm very happy to see people stayed for them despite the looks of their models.
Reason why? They are good entertainments so are Luxiem, they just cater different audiences. (Vesper's meme recreations were amazing, arteets)
If you don't like the sexual content/jokes that's valid (I don't enjoy Vox's ASMR) but there is more to them that just that. Mysta doesn't even make that many dirty jokes nowdays. This proves that first impressions are very difficult to change and even harder for people to give streamers a second chance.
Finally, the whole their fanbase is Chinese, putting everyone from one country as if they are all the same is never good, yes, there very extreme fans there, as so there are in other countries. I have seen some Chinese nijien fans enjoy the Tempus boys as well.
My point with this, I know asking the internet to have a more in depth talk about any topic is hard but it just gets boring to see the company war everywhere. Let's see people as case by case because that's what people are, their own thing and also enjoy the funny 2D people that makes content for us without fighting, thank you for reading :')
Let's be real here. China is public enemy #1 to most of the western world. Anything that is associated with China is going to be flamed and dismissed as garbage. Until NijiEN stops being so dependent on China I will not support them or give them any credit.
I have no doubt he has more to offer than just the "naughty" content, but let's be honest here and accept what made his popularity explode; it's a honey trap for down bad girls/gays/bis and we already saw it with how extreme they could be and how they minimize a serious talk commenting their classic "daddy" quotes; the thing about the chinese audience being the main one is meaningless to an extent, so that doesn't count for now
Some people from CN enjoy Tempus?
Ok I'm worried now. Legitimately
@@MrTigracho there were always true chinese fans, keep your paranoia to yourself
@@ledieumort Oh god, this reminded me of "it's not your fault baby" comments on his stream addressing the issue with Reimu. Never have I cringed at a live chat so hard. The way they were minimizing the harassment towards Reimu was just.. eugh
My dirty mind has ruined the word "dominated" omg
At first i thought the title meant a different type of dominating.
nice title
Niches: A horribly underrated concept nowadays.
I'm kinda sad no one made the 'Dominating' joke :(
0:19
Yes
Phrasing!