I BANNED EVERY GOOD YUGIOH CARD TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH WORSE IT CAN GET

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  • @001HK0
    @001HK0 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1323

    New format idea: no card that has ever been in a Yu-Gi-Oh top 8.

    • @Rentetsuken
      @Rentetsuken 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

      Pretty sure that already exists with Rogue's Format, except I believe they go beyond just Top 8.

    • @mateusrp1994
      @mateusrp1994 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

      That's called Heart of the Underdog, but its not a standardized thing, just something locals can do and still count as an official format to let the shop give out ots packs.

    • @zhanyao2481
      @zhanyao2481 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      probably rogue combo decks dominate, since a lot of them have super strong end board and this idea would phase out most relevant handtraps

    • @kotzenderkeks61
      @kotzenderkeks61 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@zhanyao2481 probably every good hand trap

    • @thehamyton4700
      @thehamyton4700 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      This is rouges format, I think any card that has ever toped a ycs or wcq is baned, it’s a very cool format where you just play shitters, the best generic is warning point

  • @buddbrown6858
    @buddbrown6858 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +245

    getting Zeus'd for your life's savings 4 separate times only to run out of extra deck has got to be a uniquely frustrating experience

    • @Jokoko2828
      @Jokoko2828 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      I feel like at that point you really have to consider running Avarice.

    • @NeoWocky
      @NeoWocky 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      They played themselves, just small world for Pankratops and clear that shit

    • @buddbrown6858
      @buddbrown6858 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@NeoWockythey must've gotten some crazy tunnel vision to have not realized, it happens

  • @SkuggyK
    @SkuggyK 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +679

    The Raidraptor vs Fluffal match-up is lore accurate

    • @kamenlegendNext
      @kamenlegendNext 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

      Fusion gang rise up

    • @RenegadeStriker7
      @RenegadeStriker7 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Gang gang gang ​@@kamenlegendNext

    • @Joeggurnaut546
      @Joeggurnaut546 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

      @@kamenlegendNext based genocide enjoyer

    • @UMAtronic
      @UMAtronic 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Oh boy i sure love me some fluffal.

    • @leoultimaupgraded9914
      @leoultimaupgraded9914 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@kamenlegendNextFusion AND Leo Gang for me

  • @Surged-eu5fs
    @Surged-eu5fs 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +239

    What I’ve learned: listening to infinite advantage combos is perfect for turning off the brain

    • @RavenCloak13
      @RavenCloak13 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      *defense mode Zeus*
      "Response?"

  • @Rojo9149
    @Rojo9149 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +360

    Turns out the problem isn't hand traps or bullshit combo decks but the decks that can play 18 handtraps and *still* do their bullshit combo with consistency

    • @geek593
      @geek593 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

      Yep. Engine design ruined Yugioh. Hand traps were the good guys.

    • @kenestebanez4777
      @kenestebanez4777 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      Handtraps have ruined yugioh. Because of them cards and engine have been designed to go around free instant interaction, meaning they had to plus more and more to see play. It's just too late in the process to ban handtraps.

    • @sadgreent5138
      @sadgreent5138 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      ​@@kenestebanez4777 Nah, handtraps kind of saved yugioh from full negate boards and making the game unplayable by going second decks. The game would become way more fun for both, going first and going second, players if the ways to achieve a sub-optimal board would require two cards from an archetype in hand instead of one searcher to get a full board

    • @sadgreent5138
      @sadgreent5138 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      And yes, increasing the chances of both players to brick or getting their combo starter shut down with one handtrap and having to make due or wait for next draw is WAY better than seeing who has enough negates to make your opponent lose. Most fun matches I've had were either rogue on rogue deck(still with handtraps) or playing on topdecks

    • @TeamSprocket
      @TeamSprocket 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@kenestebanez4777 Having an entire class of narrow Force of Wills is exactly what a resource-less game needs to stay balanced.

  • @leafbladie
    @leafbladie 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +356

    I'm so glad you weren't joking at the end of the last Masochist Banlist Tournament

    • @conorprochaska4728
      @conorprochaska4728 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      but i need my mbt mbt tourny

    • @TenshiTetsuII
      @TenshiTetsuII 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Wait you're right
      CONTINUITY

    • @zephshoir
      @zephshoir 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I need more Masochist Banlist Tournaments!!!

    • @freddief8253
      @freddief8253 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      miss this and CSM so much honestly

    • @xatuyou8045
      @xatuyou8045 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      this is sadist banlist tournament

  • @Briggetyt
    @Briggetyt 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +235

    The top 4 being 2 decks not playing yugioh a deck with built in interuption and a deck of slightly below average cards makes perfect sense

    • @8bitdiedie
      @8bitdiedie 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Which is which?

    • @mr.orange2192
      @mr.orange2192 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      ​@@8bitdiediepend, darkworld, fluffal and zoo in the same order comment

    • @Briggetyt
      @Briggetyt 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@8bitdiedie dark world and pend, fluffal, zoo

    • @YeahTheDuckweed
      @YeahTheDuckweed 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      silly boomer. combo decks play the MOST yu-gi-oh!

    • @Zarc-wi4wy
      @Zarc-wi4wy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You wouldn't be able to play those decks that "don't play yugioh" by the way because your boomer brain is too slow for combo

  • @JadenRockz99
    @JadenRockz99 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +103

    Can't believe he fixed the typo.
    The title doesn't say Skull Servants Tier 1 anymore smh

    • @user-to9lk8ix6h
      @user-to9lk8ix6h 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      The Only Deck in YuGiOh History with a 100% Winrate (Literally Unbeatable)

  • @safeandsound712
    @safeandsound712 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    I love that lithium lives in our consciousness through game 3 in every match lol

  • @flackenstien
    @flackenstien 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +286

    People simply DO NOT UNDERSTAND what kind of absolute bullshit underused decks can do, or how toxic they can be.
    They aren't played because they die to the consistency checks that current meta decks can play around.
    Not only that, but if a format like this was let to cook for any significant amount of time, a new meta and new staples would form that people would complain about all the same.

    • @Supre3m3Kai
      @Supre3m3Kai 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      This shxt is tame compared to the meta's weve had.

    • @geek593
      @geek593 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

      This is why I don't like rogue. It's usually the unfun nonsense that gets filtered by hand traps.

    • @uncoolbob9653
      @uncoolbob9653 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Just ban every card that gets over 15% use rate. Lmao

    • @flackenstien
      @flackenstien 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      @@Supre3m3Kai This video was nothing, lol. You can't base a whole format off of one video.

    • @flackenstien
      @flackenstien 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@uncoolbob9653 That will mean every card would eventually get banned.

  • @steelblake
    @steelblake 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I love how even if we ban the meta handtraps, the answer of the players to that was searching HT that pass trough a loop hole

  • @Dramatic_Gaming
    @Dramatic_Gaming 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +118

    "Cards that are incredibly iritating like Ash Blossom and Droll & Lock Bird have become load-bearing."
    I'll go one step further and say that they're load-bearing due to their own design. All these decks were either printed at the same time as or after Ash, or rely on new support printed since Ash. The presence of uninteractable cards that have the potential to stop a play dead means that decks now need so much gas to compensate for their existence that if your archetype doesn't have at least a half-dozen one card combo enablers and another 20 pieces of extension that you're not considered good.

    • @Dr.AvenVon
      @Dr.AvenVon 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      so much this. hand traps actually harm the game overall insted of being good for it.

    • @LuminousSteel
      @LuminousSteel 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      this video is why edison is best format

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@LuminousSteel Why do you say that Edison is the best format?

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@Dr.AvenVoneh not really. It's one card combos that did more damage and they would have started to exist even without hand traps with the inception of links like halq existing.

    • @Dr.AvenVon
      @Dr.AvenVon 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@GG_Nowa well, hand traps more or less allowed those cards to arrive way sooner ,because "just put more handtraps in your deck and it will be fine"

  • @Heroism4499
    @Heroism4499 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +169

    Damn this UU format looks pretty fun ngl

    • @pablossjui
      @pablossjui 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

      Honestly the pokemon way of ranking seems like it would be the best way to balance yugioh

    • @yashuastryfe125
      @yashuastryfe125 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      @@pablossjui smogon meta is pretty solid way of doing tiers

    • @Heroism4499
      @Heroism4499 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@pablossjui ye, it would help show off some strong but middling decks like Silent Voice and Gold Sarc by putting it in a smaller pool.

    • @OutbackYGO
      @OutbackYGO 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      PEAK

    • @kidumby7599
      @kidumby7599 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@Heroism4499 Voiceless Voice is a high-tiered deck RIGHT NOW lmao

  • @Spooky_Bard
    @Spooky_Bard 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    I will say that in-archetype handtraps or similar ways to interact turn one are really cool and they should probably make more of them.

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      A few good traps could make or break an archetype in a format like this
      Like, actual traps
      I'd take Libromancers

    • @chuckin6823
      @chuckin6823 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Havnis is the greatest designed card in the history of yugioh and i will die on this hill

    • @shawnjavery
      @shawnjavery 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@@chuckin6823impulse feels better tbh. There's a lot more choices you can make when to drop it, there's a field eff that has a lot of utility and normal summoning it can absolutely be correct, and it doesn't really ever feel like a blow out from my experience.
      It often trades for good value, but you still have to play properly with it from my experience. That is somewhat true of havnis, but you did have a lot of games where you just hit a miller and blew the opponent completely out of the water.

  • @blastchaos4286
    @blastchaos4286 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    Raidraptor player failed to protect their homeland rip

    • @danielhertz1984
      @danielhertz1984 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      revolution is over, the feds from fusion won

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    man, this makes me think I was right with my opinion the entire time... generic handraps and extra deck monsters that invalidate 90% of other options are bad for the game. looking at all these decklists that rely on spicy engines or in-theme solutions for different problems and difficult matchups... so beautiful to see. instead of 15-18 "non-engine" slots in the main and the same 8-10 generic link monsters in the ED.
    this format is peak imo.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Agreed. Handtraps and Links have ruined Yugioh especially competitive...

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I love seeing someone get hand looped for 4 because the means to check the deck don't exist

    • @isidoreaerys8745
      @isidoreaerys8745 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GG_Nowaban the problem card. That card is at zero in master duel.

    • @DoggoDoesStuff1
      @DoggoDoesStuff1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Out of the 7 players that weren't specifically trying to go second, only 2 games were won going second (by the Fluffal player using their own deck-specific hand traps). This format is miserable, nobody gets to play Yugioh.

    • @demonslayer2016
      @demonslayer2016 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GG_NowaSilva is genuinely the sole problem with the archetype. Just shoot it

  • @EerieDreary
    @EerieDreary 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    It seems like lots of yugitubers use music from the yugioh DS games. I played a lot of the 2011 one when I was younger, so it's very nostalgic for me.

    • @doggozwei281
      @doggozwei281 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same. I especially used to play the rental deck duels all the time in that game. 15 decks that were relatively equal in power level and good for learning what different archetypes were capable of (tho they weren't in an optimized state)

    • @Eltanin
      @Eltanin 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So that's why the bgm sounded so familiar. I wasn't sure where I recognized it from but yeah, this is damn nostalgic

    • @reydragon2597
      @reydragon2597 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Reverse of Arcadia and however the 2011 was called, absolute gems for their times. I cannot remember how much time I spent to get a dark signer face for my avatar back in the day.

    • @UncleJrueForTue
      @UncleJrueForTue 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@reydragon2597 2011, the final entry was called Over the Nexus

  • @donaldlivingston75
    @donaldlivingston75 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Turns out if you take out the handtraps, the deck that wins are the ones that can play their own native handtraps. That was a lot of fun to watch though

  • @Ragnarok540
    @Ragnarok540 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I liked seeing Dark World and Fluffal doing well here, back when MD did the Fairy vs. Fiend event I found that it was possible to make a hybrid deck with those two. Did you know Royal Penguin Gardens discards for effect? It triggers the Dark Worlds. Also the dark world fusion quickplay can summon any fiend fusion, so you can summon Frightfur Tiger in the opponents turn to blow up their whole board. BTW. I think Konami knew what they were doing when they banned Siilva in MD.

    • @ducky36F
      @ducky36F 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dark world is exactly what I don't want to see tbh.

    • @BlackBeartic229
      @BlackBeartic229 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      You liked Dark World handripping for 4-6 with no actual way to fight against it?
      You're damn right Konami knew what they were doing when they banned Siilva in MD. It SHOULD be banned in TCG/OCG too

    • @HaissamMouard
      @HaissamMouard 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@BlackBeartic229 if mbt just bans luceus and babuska the format is perfectly fine

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@HaissamMouard Huh? Why do you say that? What cards did Master Duel Ban?

    • @HaissamMouard
      @HaissamMouard 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @philithegamer8265 I meant in this formst thst mbt made in the video. Those were the problem csrds to me at least. And maybe some general power level hits to others.

  • @DarkeLourd
    @DarkeLourd 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    24:11 I disagree with that sentiment. Dark World and Pendulum are both looking to play a LOT of Yugioh, they just aren't looking to let their opponent play any.

    • @procrastinatingphoenix5396
      @procrastinatingphoenix5396 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      That's not Yu-Gi-Oh, that's solitaire

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      ​@@procrastinatingphoenix5396that is yugioh, first world champion asia is literally playing Canon soldier burn, trying to competely ignore your opponent field as possible.

    • @swisschese1323
      @swisschese1323 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@@procrastinatingphoenix5396 I love this game but it always has been, everything went downhill after they release Wind-up and the roach. And we as a community hasn't recovered from 2018-2019 yet.

    • @kidumby7599
      @kidumby7599 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@r3zaful It's always so cute to see people who think bullshit decks only appeared recently and weren't present in some form or other throughout the game's history.

    • @lunarshadow5584
      @lunarshadow5584 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kidumby7599 Agreed, the first deck shown in the anime was Exodia after all.

  • @justatraveler09
    @justatraveler09 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Akashic Magician and Security Dragon in the Dark World deck is giving some traumatic flashbacks to Grinder Golem format

  • @Drekal684
    @Drekal684 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Here's a really dumb idea for a future ban tournament.
    Ban every card with the letter E in its name. Everything else is limited to one.

  • @gahbunga
    @gahbunga 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Muck RAKER, she''s a reporter, she rakes muck!

  • @SolarPhoenix3
    @SolarPhoenix3 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    What I have learnt is you can't remove the handtraps from the game without lowering the ceiling of like every deck.

  • @newttrain8667
    @newttrain8667 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This reminds me of an idea I have for Yugioh that I've mentioned before and will mention again. MTG has a format called Canadian Highlander, a 100 card singleton format which allows you to use cards that are Limited in Vintage format, but those limited cards all have a point value associated to them; a deck can only have so many points, I forget the exact number. It makes me wonder if a points system would work in Yugioh as well, but instead the points go towards certain generic and powerful cards. For example, Ash Blossom and Imperm would probably be worth one point each. Droll is a pretty impactful card in the right situations, so it would be worth two. Big generic boss monsters like Baronne and Accesscode I can see being at three. These are just examples of how I think points would be distributed, not a concrete rule, and obviously anything like this would need a looooooot of playtesting.

    • @leedutch5155
      @leedutch5155 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I remember the Pokemon trading card game video game having a deck capacity

  • @snazzy3743
    @snazzy3743 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Dread it, run from it, a cracked fluffal will always put up numbers in a custom format tournament

  • @blue-eyesdepresseddragon3753
    @blue-eyesdepresseddragon3753 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    No joke, No lie, Yugioh needs a tiering format like Competitive Pokemon. I would LOVE to see Yugioh UU so badly.

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yugioh ZU would be the whackiest crap ever

    • @durgons749
      @durgons749 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It exists, it's called Kuchen format (although it is more like Smogon)

    • @Ch1oe2472
      @Ch1oe2472 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tiers don't exist in Official Competitive Pokemon either, it's only in Smogon that those exist.

    • @TeamSprocket
      @TeamSprocket 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Pokemon tiers don't work with yugioh as yugioh gets new cards constantly and has a card pool in the thousands and has archetypes designed to be played with and against staples. There won't be enough data to make an accurate system and trusting the subjective assessment of people only works in niche instances like the Master Duel meme events and MBT tournaments.

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Magic has 5 different formats, but only 2 are completely degenerate and not really supported by the company beyond swinging around every 6 months to ban problem cards that they printed because those formats are suppose to be degenerate. Konami should really do the samething. Hopefully the shareholders dont see the improvement of new players the want to the game and push the company to burn the game to the ground with a new format and still let the degens jack each other off if they win the dice roll in the eternal format

  • @Torpedoman316
    @Torpedoman316 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    It's muck rake er. It's a journalism term. Nobody fuckin says it right

    • @balewaif
      @balewaif 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      he can't keep driving engagement like this 😭

    • @fortidogi8620
      @fortidogi8620 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hes doing it on purpose cuz cracker is a funny word

    • @dionjones6300
      @dionjones6300 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm certain he knew that. That's what made it funny

    • @Torpedoman316
      @Torpedoman316 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dionjones6300 then I'm retarded

  • @esc7151
    @esc7151 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

    Dont fix the typo in the títle. It makes it x100 times better

    • @darkpendulumsystem
      @darkpendulumsystem 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What was the typo?

    • @Galchoo1
      @Galchoo1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@darkpendulumsystem"...IT CAN GEY"

    • @esc7151
      @esc7151 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@darkpendulumsystem The title said "HOW MUCH WORSE CAN IT GEY", before they fixed it

    • @darkpendulumsystem
      @darkpendulumsystem 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@esc7151 ah

    • @erbinha_1234
      @erbinha_1234 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@esc7151You are right, should never have been "fixed"

  • @MoeEpsilon
    @MoeEpsilon 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    I don't know if this proves what you think it does. Handtraps are great and all, but the problem is every deck can just endlessly special summon. Assuming you had a handtrap to slow your opponent down, you made them pass and then you can do your combo turn 2. It ends up being only one additional turn with the handtraps in your deck too.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is so sad...

    • @shapular
      @shapular 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And these plays are all things that are perfectly legal in current Yugioh and that you will still lose to if you didn't draw the right hand trap before you got a chance to play the game.

  • @hollowednight5290
    @hollowednight5290 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Honestly as annoying as hand traps are, that dark world deck as well as the other decks to some degree, showed me that we definitely need them to make yugioh work in the state that it’s in currently.

    • @minabasejderha5972
      @minabasejderha5972 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Or you could (for example) just ban Silva and perhaps Ceruli? The lesson here is that handtraps are bandaids at best.

    • @sigma190beta
      @sigma190beta 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@minabasejderha5972 The issue with how MBT specifically runs his tournaments is that he goes for variety of decks, from a group of volunteers from his twitter, rather than organically allowing the format to come together by giving people more than just a heads up a day or two in advance.

    • @buddbrown6858
      @buddbrown6858 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I want agree but Konami literally made the cards that allow for the consistent hand loop in the last 2 years. There's no reason for them to make cards like this in the modern era, yet here we are. It's not always the case that hand traps keep decks in check and thus they are necessary, it seems that Konami is making broken bullshit just cuz they know certain hand traps can stop them. I don't like that

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@buddbrown6858 Agreed. Konami sucks when making balanced cards...

    • @shapular
      @shapular 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or they could just hit the actual problem cards that reveal themselves when the bandaids are taken out of the game.

  • @Hitoridoodles
    @Hitoridoodles 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Words cannot describe the amount of psychic damage I take every time MBT says ChandraLIGER

    • @darkriku144
      @darkriku144 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Me with Genta (short for Magenta, the color) and Ceruli (short for Cerulean, also a color)

    • @cringekid3993
      @cringekid3993 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The smiger incident

  • @noisepollution4473
    @noisepollution4473 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The best sell on hand traps to yugioh boomers who hate them is definitely "when you ban the hand traps pendulums are good"
    nothing scares an angry uninformed yugioh player more than pendulums
    i say this as someone who fears pendulums myself

    • @aname8174
      @aname8174 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      but dark worlds :D

    • @tylerlane8221
      @tylerlane8221 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I say ban everything that let's you special summon more then 5 times in a turn

  • @tinfoilslacks3750
    @tinfoilslacks3750 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I half expected to see SQMP decks in this tourney. "Make Magnus turn 1 or lose.dek" seems potent in a format with so little disruption.

    • @ErroneousNickname
      @ErroneousNickname 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I was actually gonna play quant but I decided to play fluffal instead
      I guess it worked

    • @chaoticjexak
      @chaoticjexak 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      true, but i didnt see kaijus in the list of banned cards as far as i could tell.
      and quant gets absolutely BODIED by a gamaciel coming down.

  • @jmbw4271
    @jmbw4271 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I always forget how good MBT is at narrating duels. kinda underappreciated imo.

    • @buddbrown6858
      @buddbrown6858 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I miss those Pro Play Games and Master duel circuit days. Need him to do more of these custom banlist tourneys too

  • @absoul112
    @absoul112 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    You know what, keep doing these. I want to see how many people still love it when this forms it’s own meta.

  • @kosigisa
    @kosigisa 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The Zeus solo was kinda sad

  • @HittaTheFlameCharner
    @HittaTheFlameCharner 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    I think the typo adds charm

  • @chompyzilla
    @chompyzilla 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    MBT: I also banned the other floodgates.
    Abyss Dweller: *whistling casually in the corner*

  • @Graysett
    @Graysett 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Ya know, you said "worse", but as a Dark World enjoyer I see this as an absolute win.

    • @Kingbobman69
      @Kingbobman69 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same

    • @darkpuppetlordful
      @darkpuppetlordful 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Literally just the best outcome for us

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@darkpuppetlordful Scummy degenerate deck...

  • @ovelhadogelo
    @ovelhadogelo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    "Make a deck without Hand Traps or cards that sees huge amounts of play."
    That's.. like, 15 out of 20 decks I have, minimum. Is it my time to shine, finally?

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      NGL, I'd like to try fiddling with this banned list, I feel like some of my favorite decks would do well in a format like this, some are REALLY strong but just a bit fragile to disruption

  • @MrMintyfreshsmell
    @MrMintyfreshsmell 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The vast majority of decks have roughly 20 of the same cards as any other deck. It's painful to see. The problem is if you aren't using those same 20ish cards then congrats on the loss

  • @cashclam1126
    @cashclam1126 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was so hype to watch on stream. I went like 4 straight right predictions.

  • @Dratini4231
    @Dratini4231 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely loved this! It’d be fun to see this again.😂

  • @Ilaechelon
    @Ilaechelon 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So the result is: if we get rid of hands points of interaction, the format becomes a combo heavy festival

  • @NoahMonroe_
    @NoahMonroe_ 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    That first match just reaffirmed my contempt for modern Dark World, Jesus Christ.

    • @kriesas
      @kriesas 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Modern? that was always DWs game plan lol. They are just efficient(?) at it now

    • @durgons749
      @durgons749 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@kriesasi love when people just say words. Dark World came out more than 15 years ago and the deck was, believe it or not, not handlooping for 4 + 3 negates, especially since Cerulli wasn't even printed. Just shut up

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@durgons749 they hand loop with virus tribute grapha and skill drain, different kind of toxic

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@durgons749 deep draw trying to find skill drain then blow your hand up of any potential threat using virus by tributing grapha, there is an official back to the past event in japan, TWO of these stupid deck in the top 8 thankfully they brick in quater final.

    • @buddbrown6858
      @buddbrown6858 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fuck that deck, man, glad it lost

  • @joshsolders5543
    @joshsolders5543 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a previous hand trap hater, I have come to the conclusion that hand traps are for the better. Sure its fun to redo the same combo you memorized every game, but leaving the second turn player helpless to stopping the first turn player's plays isn't much better. Especially now. I do disagree with the idea that you should be able to go full combo like Snake Eyes on either turn, but stuff like Fluffals and Labrynth seem fair. And before anyone says that Labrynth does a lot on either turn, its balanced by the fact that most of the setup doesn't come into play until next turn since its a trap deck. They kind of need it to make traps fast enough to keep up with a lot of other decks.

    • @PlagueSpreader64
      @PlagueSpreader64 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh yeah. Hand traps are desperately needed right now. Problem is that they're absolutely essential for everything to not turn into a cluster fuck in the first place reflects poorly on the state of the game and Konami's management of it.

    • @RandomGuyCDN
      @RandomGuyCDN 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      either supporting older time wizard formats or completely blowing up the singular format game would be for the better.

  • @munchrai6396
    @munchrai6396 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Its sad that a card as degenerate as Droll is now as necessary as Ash Blossom. Wasn't that long ago when people thought that a format that played Droll was a bad format. Now its in EVERY format

    • @Element_Doom
      @Element_Doom 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I get what you're trying to say, but Mourner and Ogre are currently much more popular than Droll.
      Current top meta decks don't even get hit by Droll that hard, because they can still atleast put up an I:P into S:P while also having their ~16 Non engine to keep them in the game, so then they'll just fish for the other half of their decks, which consists of one card starters.
      Droll and Nib are the formats Security to keep out degen decks like handloops, ftks, floo, or combo decks than end on an pretty much unbeatable endboard. They're also a way for Rogue decks to beat other Rogue decks, so they can focus the rest of their deck & sideboard on beating the top meta threat, however that unfortunately works just as good for the top meta threat aswell, so it can focus on the mirror match instead.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Element_Doom Why do you say Floo?

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@philithegamer8265because floo is degenerate.
      The deck is built around 1 sided floodgates that they don't have to abide by on monsters that can't be atleast ran into easily you know like most other floodgate esuqe monsters

  • @aboogala4678
    @aboogala4678 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    2:10 FLUFFAL GANG RISE UP

    • @jasikshaw9309
      @jasikshaw9309 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      FLUFFAL MENTIONED 🗣

    • @jayvila4755
      @jayvila4755 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      FLUFFAL FOR FLUFLIFE

  • @delllee4915
    @delllee4915 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Who could have guessed that banning all the good staple cards makes combo decks impossible to stop.

  • @BloodfelX
    @BloodfelX 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That is honestly pretty much the same Fluffal deck that I have taken to locals before - love to see it do so well here.

  • @zearcjustice7837
    @zearcjustice7837 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    too much gas and the deck blew up

  • @ILikeMobingLikethat
    @ILikeMobingLikethat 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Damn, Ignister prominence is really, really not once per turn

  • @CrimsoniteSP
    @CrimsoniteSP 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Me, showing up with a deck only 0.0000001 people play.
    My favorite deck is Ojama-ABC.

    • @NeverSeenGod
      @NeverSeenGod 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i'm with you brother

    • @CrimsoniteSP
      @CrimsoniteSP 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@NeverSeenGod Ojama brothers stay together, I guess

  • @geek593
    @geek593 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Hopefully people learn the card design of engine is the problem, not most of the generics.

    • @tame1773
      @tame1773 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yea, most decks dont have enough good cards in archtype worth playing to fill out the deck, so they just slap in some good stuff and call it a day.

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tame1773 There's also some decks where every card is good, but there's not enough of them or some of the cards only do one thing even if they do it really well (Libromancer comes to mind)

    • @Dramatic_Gaming
      @Dramatic_Gaming 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      They're both the problem. Handtraps put a stranglehold on card design that says 'your deck must have *this much* gas to be playable', while new engines actually have the gas to play through handtrap to the point that removing them leads to degeneracy. You can't remove one without removing the other, but removing both would require a lot of work and a colossal banlist, so instead we're stuck in a perpetual arms race where neither one can be removed.

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@Dramatic_Gaming THIS, this is BASICALLY the issue and not a lot of people seem to realize it, the ideal solution is to reign in both but it would be SUCH a massive undertaking

    • @geiseric222
      @geiseric222 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Dramatic_Gamingthat’s not a problem?
      Why exactly is that a problem other than it makes your bad pet deck bad?

  • @BeaglzRok1
    @BeaglzRok1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You could ban every card with a 10% winrate and revert every card that has ever been on the banlist to its most extreme ban extent, and people will still cry if Six Sams are allowed to go infinite with one Gateway.

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because resource loops like that are boring to play against.

    • @Temperans
      @Temperans 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ban gateway too then

  • @deathboy345
    @deathboy345 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    has been a long time since the last tournament, are there any plans for one of those i unban 3/4 of the banlist tournaments?

  • @jeweledmoon5567
    @jeweledmoon5567 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Heartbreaking game three with Raidraptor

  • @safeandsound712
    @safeandsound712 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Idea! Do this again but also unban everything on the ban list that you think could come back without mattering.

  • @andrewgiordano1819
    @andrewgiordano1819 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m so glad to have this video as ammo against those that say “I wish handtraps didn’t exist” in front of me

  • @ObeliskTGS
    @ObeliskTGS 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Funny thing is while the other video went over how YGO was dying for the millionth time, something like this (banning all the hand traps, staples and board breakers) *would actually make YGO die.*

    • @PrettierNPastel
      @PrettierNPastel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I mean yeah lol like 40% of the card pool is designed with those cards in mind so it would be chaos without them.

    • @smittyDXPS3
      @smittyDXPS3 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      That's a delusional take. If anything the current game teaches us, it's that Yu-Gi-Oh players will play no matter what in any dogshit terrible format.

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it would die at an actual sanctioned level
      But just like force of will it would still be played by people because the batshit nature of the format

  • @bicknell1258
    @bicknell1258 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    That Yubel player literally didn't pay attention at all.
    Hmm, I was ceruli looped 3 times game 1, should I d.d. crow the ceruli the only time it's in the grave? No, I better let it resolve and give up my crow, not like he'll loop this up to two more times (like he did last time)

    • @Rojo9149
      @Rojo9149 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      There was a negate on field, heliopolis rank 8 negates targeting even in GY
      The crow never had a chance but I would have tried it anyway since it's getting looped out of my hand regardless

    • @michaelavrel6710
      @michaelavrel6710 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I mean its dark world tbh cant blame him, when was the last time ppl actually paid attention to darkworld combo? Most ppl probably just fell asleep mid combo, that or their off going something productive, like i dont know during the span of dark world combo you probably can go to school, get a job, marrried, and have a kids

    • @LettuceDeerwig
      @LettuceDeerwig 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I was considering using it on Accession during the open gamestate before Heliopolois was summoned but elected not to. Once Heliopolis hit the board, the crow was never going to resolve, because Heliopolis negates it. After it wasn't going to have any impact, I kept the Crow in hand instead of using it because I wanted to keep my hand at an odd number of cards to prevent Sillva from resolving a 3rd time.
      I appreciate your chatting though!

    • @bicknell1258
      @bicknell1258 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@LettuceDeerwig Fair enough. I play against Dark World at my locals, but in that case the goal is always to end on Appo/Fusion/IP, which wins you the game even if you only resolve the ceruli loop once or twice.

  • @KingRoni1222
    @KingRoni1222 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    YGO 2011 OVER THE NEXUS MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND POGGGGGGGGGGG
    (at least during one of the dark world games there might be some in other spots)

  • @crappyusername69
    @crappyusername69 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The real issue is stepstool cards. Konami making every (good) main deck card say "I dont affect the board, im just free material for something else" meant you never sacrifice resources/board presence to summon boss monsters.
    So we just see the same generic boss monsters over and over because main deck cards dont do anything.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is so sad... what are stepstoll cards?

    • @crappyusername69
      @crappyusername69 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @philithegamer8265 Monster cards whose soul purpose is to leave the field/hand/gy to facilitate accessing another card. A stepstool that gets you to somewhere else.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@crappyusername69 This is why I've been a huge Monarch player. That deck centers around their main deck monsters being really OP...

    • @crappyusername69
      @crappyusername69 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @philithegamer8265 It's too bad monarchs are basically just poor man's Horus now. Why work for big monsters when you can draw and summon them all for free? That way, you can toss them back in the grave every turn for more unrelated extra deck stuff.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@crappyusername69 As a big fan if Monarchs especially Extra Deck Monarchs, this post really hurts me. Yugioh's powercreep has gotten way too out of control for the past 5-10 years. This is not the game that I grew up playing...

  • @Ragnellrok
    @Ragnellrok 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

    Typo in the title, bro fell off

    • @Bladerunner-sn7tv
      @Bladerunner-sn7tv 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      NOWAYING

    • @Ragnellrok
      @Ragnellrok 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@Bladerunner-sn7tv how much worse can it gey

    • @brandonwaters3434
      @brandonwaters3434 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Oh, My GOOD!

    • @SgtKickass926
      @SgtKickass926 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I think he fixed it, what was it before?

    • @dannydelacruz7303
      @dannydelacruz7303 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can tell ur white

  • @divinegamer2062
    @divinegamer2062 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yo bro it's the goblin biker player from the regional. Enjoyed our game so much I decided to subscribe. So glad your addressing the hand trap situation without them rogue decks simply cannot compete with the meta, interaction on the first turn is necessary to slow them down. Here's hoping we duel again at the next regional

  • @AnRuixuan
    @AnRuixuan 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't think I've ever seen or played a game against any Pendulum deck and thought "yeah this is fun and good for the game"

  • @ShonicBurn
    @ShonicBurn 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The way old scholl staples got beat was by giving boss monsters their abilities.
    Now we need to give normal weak things staple abilities.

  • @saxophonebuizel2458
    @saxophonebuizel2458 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Man we need duel-taining back

  • @starscorpia4005
    @starscorpia4005 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    due to my recent experiences in MD....ban horus too, 4 free level 8s is a bit stupid innit, if they were vanillas i'd alread consider it but 4 monsters wiht 4 solid effects is just a bit insane to gain off of one card (plus discards)

    • @Bruham2
      @Bruham2 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      (Minus discards)

    • @gyro121
      @gyro121 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Doesn't it also like discard 6 to do that

    • @tame1773
      @tame1773 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They arent that good, stun is tho

    • @user-jc2lz6jb2e
      @user-jc2lz6jb2e 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@gyro121 You discard cards with GY effects that make you go plus.

    • @gyro121
      @gyro121 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-jc2lz6jb2e this only applies to danger Horus and Horus dark world
      Both decks are mid af

  • @animeknight99
    @animeknight99 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video 👍

  • @Salacavalini
    @Salacavalini 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Muck-raker. Like raking through mud to find stuff in it. It's a play on the card basically being a paparazza.

  • @ringleader6715
    @ringleader6715 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    GEY??? Happy pride everyone!!

  • @nnnp634
    @nnnp634 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Guys, MBT picks the lists (and a very low amount of them) for these kind of videos, same as banning half the banlist. Every tournament of his is diverse not because stipulation make the format diverse, but because he choses different decks

  • @HoneycombProductions
    @HoneycombProductions 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    that pend v zoo game 2 had me on the FLOOR

  • @kollinpoindexter8859
    @kollinpoindexter8859 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its interesting using a tournament appearance % to ban cards.
    It would be cool to look at tournaments across the last 3 years, maybe in sets of 8:
    Looking at card appearance rates in top 4, top 16, top 64 across the 8 major tournaments based on side deck, main deck, extra deck then using different usage % at each level (top 4/16/64) to limit/ban. Then doing it for every set of 8 tournaments in the last 3 years, keeping the most sever restriction. Maybe add a honorable mentions logic section where you go in and ban/limit cards yourself. Then add in the ban lists during those 3 years and adjust the restrictions based on if it is more sever then the current bans.
    To be fair I am willing to bet the deck list between this and that would be pretty similar.

  • @LazurBeemz
    @LazurBeemz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    the people talking about "wow I loved the variety! So much better than seeing Kash/Tear/Snakeyes mirrors!" don't seem to realize that you picked different decks so OF COURSE there's "diversity" in this tournament. But if it was a real format, it would quickly get centralized like anything else.

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      In fairness, it's at least partially people aren't just sick of seeing "Just three decks" but THOSE three decks, even if it'd probably centralize in a month or two, it's still somewhat refreshing to be seeing decks other than Tear, Kash and Snake-Eyes

    • @mateusrp1994
      @mateusrp1994 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Let a discord server cook for a week and do an open tournament instead of handpicking randoms, like how Farfa does with the LCS

    • @I_Tacocat
      @I_Tacocat 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Heavy cope

    • @m_e_nere
      @m_e_nere 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let people feel like change is possible

    • @kidumby7599
      @kidumby7599 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@m_e_nere Melodius, Tenpai, Voiceless Voice and other decks that aren't those three have been able to compete throughout the format, and Melodius in general is incredibly strong. Hell Swordsoul came in second in LA.
      Even in a format with a clear dominant deck, there's already a diversity of strategies, most people are just whiners.

  • @falloutsearies
    @falloutsearies 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    This makes me wonder how yugioh tournaments would operate like Pokémon's use tier like overused to never used and see how people would like that. we have the data for it so it wouldn't be that hard to set it up.

    • @Yunglex313
      @Yunglex313 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Something like that existed. Was put together by another Yugituber... she turned out to be a terrible person, and the project fell to the wayside.

    • @baxterbruce9827
      @baxterbruce9827 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There's been a few experiments with that over the years, as far as I can tell, the longest lasting version of it is Kuchen format, many cards get banned or reduced copies as you go to lower tiers in an explicit attempt to reign in powercreep

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@baxterbruce9827 Kuchen, Gefahr, Local Heros...

    • @falloutsearies
      @falloutsearies 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Yunglex313 damn...

  • @PhantomThiefXI
    @PhantomThiefXI 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    one day id like to play a few games with nothing but non-archetypal non-attribute/type pack-filler-cards-only decks, to me thatd be fun

  • @KooroshForootan
    @KooroshForootan 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ngl I’m shocked Gold Pride Punk didn’t make the top decks. Without hand traps the deck is basically guaranteed to end on a crazy board with quick effect fuse/steal your opponents shit backed up by a monster PEP.

  • @xaazii
    @xaazii 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    GEY?

  • @losowyczlowiek14027
    @losowyczlowiek14027 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Finally.
    RamRam Ranch format.

  • @drdca8263
    @drdca8263 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Idea for a tournament: alternating between even and odd rounds, players either play using their opponent’s deck, or with their own deck,
    Except that the top 8 are all playing their own decks.

  • @BillCosby42069
    @BillCosby42069 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I actually have so much respect for the non 15 min U link combo zoo deck after watching this... holy

  • @mamacoazul6621
    @mamacoazul6621 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    u misspelled gay

  • @kilikthedestroyer
    @kilikthedestroyer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yu-Gi-Ohs ruined again lets go!

  • @Ashacarlosalbert
    @Ashacarlosalbert 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, Joseph, you convinced me. Hand traps are a necessary evil.
    Glad so see a deck like that becoming the champion. For me, it portraits a nice Yu-Gi-Oh way of playing.

  • @user-co6wc8di5l
    @user-co6wc8di5l 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Personally I would slightly reduce the hand trap density. Not eliminate them, but a few less.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Put a hard limit into handtraps. Don't yet them all together...

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@philithegamer8265
      Okay then so everyone just plays the best ones that reach the widest and don't both playing the niche ones because it's not safe enough to try.

  • @ZodiacMeteor
    @ZodiacMeteor 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is why Yu-Gi-Oh needs a Pokemon-like Smogon list, not a ban-list.
    Limit what cards can be in powerful archetypes and unlimit cards in weak archetypes. Yu-Gi-Oh deck diversity problems are more alike the Pokemon VGC than any card game on the market.

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also lets you play your favourite deck, which is actually a big reason Smogon's tiers exist.

    • @Epzilon12
      @Epzilon12 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can’t wait to play Edison RU

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Smogon formats aren't official and themselves have shown to have terrible cracks in the system as it went on

    • @Epzilon12
      @Epzilon12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GG_Nowa Yeah, both VGC and Smogon certainly have their own fair share of problems. It is nice when a mon you like is doing something somewhere though.

    • @ZodiacMeteor
      @ZodiacMeteor 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GG_Nowa Ehhh, I disagree. As a whole, yes the system isn't perfect. The idea is good though, try to make a format as diverse as possible by limited who can use what.
      Smogon is not flawless and I get the arguments against a format like it, but it's far, far better than any "balance" Nintendo has ever done. Incineroar is still one of the best Pokemon 7 years after its hidden ability was released.
      To put this into perspective, that's like Konomi never hit Zoodiac and Zoodiac never dropped below a tier 1 deck, EVER. Since it's printing, it would flux between tier 0 and tier 1 across 7 years. So why rely on a company not trying?
      I personally think a ban, limit, semi-limit list works better when there are less than 1500 cards in the game, not over 15,000. Just like Pokemon, to help keep the community engaged, it needs a different idea than just "no one can use this."

  • @prodmoira
    @prodmoira 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Mbt fans try not to be insufferable challenge impossible

  • @wario1226
    @wario1226 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    LETS GOOOOO
    I LOVE FLUFFALS!!!!!
    Also I love when MBT sounds like an auctioneer.

  • @fil_5307
    @fil_5307 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The danger darkworld duels felt miserable

  • @alliceazure5389
    @alliceazure5389 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    "I ruined yugioh" he says, making a format I'd actually like to play

    • @hatefulgaming1800
      @hatefulgaming1800 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Why this looks horrible?

    • @KuroeNezumi
      @KuroeNezumi 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If Silva, secret village and at least one of the two "the pendulum" links were banned I would agree. The less infinite recursion with a shutdown of one of the three card types in the game Pendulum has, and the less I have to deal with Dark World ripping my hand to shreds, the better.
      I also want to say that banning Dark Ruler would be nice, but it being more of a check on overextension makes me doubt if removing it would be for the better (also it requires proper follow-up or you just die to the crackback).
      Also, that Fluffal deck (with the bullshit and all, vs the godless stuff that was in the tournament at least; otherwise maybe dweller or toad eating it would be fine) definitely looked very nice, would like to play it.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@KuroeNezumi Dark Ruler No More _needs_ to be legal at 3 copies at all times. Just get rid of the busted Extra Deck Monsters that give you floodgates and negates that are too accessible and get rid of all the busted handtraps outside of Maxx C, Infinite Impermanence and Droll and Lock Bird and limit Called by the Grave to one copy...

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@philithegamer8265
      Savage and barrone are banned.
      Maxx c is banned because its busted.

  • @cturtle4573
    @cturtle4573 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I would like to see something like this again. I think that trying to create a meta without handtraps is a good idea, it's just that a lot of decks that are stopped by handtraps from being toxic slipped under the radar from this current list.

    • @smiletoday5696
      @smiletoday5696 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      There seem to be a lot of YGO players who think like this and I really do not comprehend how far down the list you want to go before you find these alleged nontoxic decks. The game is incredibly fast and even rogue decks are very consistent if they play through 0 interrupts

    • @N12015
      @N12015 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@smiletoday5696 And that's because they got addicted to print "from your deck" to every single card.

    • @cturtle4573
      @cturtle4573 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smiletoday5696 I'd be willing to lose 1000s of cards if need be. Is it infeasible for such a list? Yes. I still think it's an interesting idea to strive for.

    • @smiletoday5696
      @smiletoday5696 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@cturtle4573 at that point are you not just completely curating the game to telling people to play a specific deck? At that point just doing theme decks is probably more fun and less confusing.

    • @blastchaos4286
      @blastchaos4286 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@smiletoday5696 They want to go all the way back before hand traps were commonplace, because every deck since has been created with them in mind. At that point you're just playing a time wizard format lol

  • @thr33than
    @thr33than 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That first match with Dark World genuinely hurt my head.

  • @roakification
    @roakification 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gotta make this a series and lower the % bar lower and lower to see what comes out of it :D

  • @MattIsAMage
    @MattIsAMage 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    such a good video. "here, you're not allowed to play anything remotely meta. this is what you wanted!"

    • @user-jc2lz6jb2e
      @user-jc2lz6jb2e 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This is delusional.
      Power creep means that whatever CURRENT meta cards get banned, they will be powercrept by previous meta cards. It's mostly like normal duels from 2 years ago.
      It's delusional because it doesn't address the overpowered cards, but ONLY the TOP overpowered cards.
      Horus, Bagooska, Zeus, Chaos Angel... all powerful cards still allowed in this video.

    • @MattIsAMage
      @MattIsAMage 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@user-jc2lz6jb2e bro why did you have to reply to MY comment. who hurt you?

    • @user-jc2lz6jb2e
      @user-jc2lz6jb2e 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@MattIsAMage You said "this is what you wanted". That's dishonest.
      Why are you weaseling out of addressing my points.

    • @sigma190beta
      @sigma190beta 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@user-jc2lz6jb2e Well, what did you specifically want in that case then?

    • @user-jc2lz6jb2e
      @user-jc2lz6jb2e 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@sigma190beta I already said it in the first reply.
      Remove the overpowered cards. ALL of them, not just the top ones.
      Dragon Rulers don't stop being overpowered just because they got powercrept. Zeus doesn't stop being overpowered just because he has like 10% usage instead of 15%.

  • @Tokumastu1
    @Tokumastu1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Honestly these are some of the more dynamic duels I've seen in a long time. So yeah lets keep pushing for this type of ban list. Also gotta love how unbanning a lot of Pens best cards always leads PePe style dickery. So maybe next time also hit Pend.

    • @durgons749
      @durgons749 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Genuinely, what the fuck are you talking about?

    • @GG_Nowa
      @GG_Nowa 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dynamically losing to Full combo I couldn't play around in most cases.

  • @kataphrut7740
    @kataphrut7740 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You know, while I get the point he's making here, the idea that Fluffal is what rises to the top if you ban every current staple and tier one card doesn't sound that bad to me.

  • @khalilli6613
    @khalilli6613 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The handtraps aren't the problem. Extemely powerful entire engines being 20 cards or under is the problem.