KONAMI RUINED THESE ONCE-GREAT YU-GI-OH! CARDS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2023
- Rest in peace, goyo guardian.
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My favorite errata hands down has to be the first errata of Hundred Eyes Dragon, where they had to remove the hyphen from it's name (Hundred-Eyes Dragon) so that it wouldn't be considered a part of the "Red-Eyes" archetype.
The Earthbound Immortal search was just too much potential
That was in the very first Twitter thread.
Mines stratos
I guess at least 2 of those eyes could've been red
for some weird reason, OCG were really scared of goyo guardian for a very long time
I mean... really good stat line for the cost, a pretty good effect for the time, the fact that newer summoning methods just give you even more crazy summons...
It was because it was their excuse in "balancing" the card since the other Goyos were coming in during that time.
pretty sure you could easily synchro the strongest monsters off Goyo's effect.
It was never ban worthy. I played during that era, it was backrow heavy, Goyo didn't last long enough to do anything with the monster it stole, if it even could. Stat line? You mean in the same meta sporting free special summon Blue Eyes with the ability to wipe the board (judgment dragon) and use priority to do it? Goyo was a two card summon that needed to battle to get it's underwhelming effect. Oh, and Goyo has less attack then said destroyer of games. No, it was not a problem at all. It was just at a time Konami was scared shitless of generic cards in every deck... and then they did a 180 and today half of decks are generic. Great company, much consistency.
@PathBeyondTheDark Goyo was obscenely easy to go into even back then, there's a reason everyone and their dog ran the thing. This was also still in the era when battle effects mattered sometimes, and stealing a monster in that format was pretty fucking good (hell, people still run it in Edison). Besides, they didn't even ban it for most of the 5ds era, it was just limited
There's a stark difference between how 2014 Konami did erratas and how 2020 Konami does erratas. 2014 Konami slapped 20 restrictions and made your opponent plus off the card, and 2020 Konami changes 1 word and slaps a HOPT and that's it.
The entire game changes every time they release a new booster pack. I stopped buying when I realized how greedy Konami became.
@@SSGoatanks at that point just do set rotation.
This is why I (generally) prefer retrains over errata’s. Keeps legacy of these powerful cards and also leaves it open for coming back if it’s been powercrept
I think its also better for returning players to know the cards they knew still work the same.
@@achehex yeah!
"I'd rather let him sit in his place of honor on the list forever than have him back in this sad state" is so true, and also like the hardest sentence I've heard all month.
The worst thing about Crush Card is when finally, FINALLY you find an opponent who doesn't want 3 free Foolish Burials because they actually need to keep the monsters it would affect in the deck, your opponent can just say "nope!" because the deck destruction effect is an optional choice for your opponent. WTF Konami!?
It was a super iconic card. People wanted to play it so if they gotta errata it so be it. Plus there are cards that need it specifically to work, the legendary dragon Fang of Crit, so they had to bring it back somehow.
I think it optional beause your opponent may not have cards that meet the requirement
@@praxyseory4578if that's the case then the effect would've just fizzled anyway no matter if it's optional or not
@@milesandrews6711ou cannot activate a card effect if it cannot resolve fully at the time of activation, that's why cards have to be very specific to include (or as much as possible) or other clauses like that. If the new crush card said "then destroy 3 monsters with more than 1500 atk from your opponent's deck" and your opponent didn't have 3, you can't activate the card.
the best crush card:
*_Tribute 1 DARK monster with 1000 or less ATK. Check all monsters on your opponent's side of the field, your opponent's hand, and all cards they draw (until the end of your opponent's 3rd turn after this card's activation), and destroy all monsters with 1500 or more ATK._*
I'll never forget my only interaction with post change Dark Strike Fighter. It was in master duel and the guy set up the most convoluted FTK by raising the monsters level up to 37 and nuked me. I could have stopped the combo at any point but once I saw the level go beyond 12 I just kinda went "alright where let's see what he's cooking."
I love Big Brain master duel moments like this.
How did this work?
Which card can increase Levels to arbitrary heights?
@@xCorvus7x It's your usual long FTK combo but it ends off with Aurorodon to summon out three tokens, sac itself and a token for coltwing, coltwing summons more tokens filling your board, coltwing becomes level 13, Galaxy Queen's Light sets the tokens to 13 which boosts Coltwing to 43, darkstrike sacs it for 8800. You can find a couple videos on it but that's the usual last bit of the combo.
@@DoomToots Aha, that doesn't sound too long (although the length of the combe depends on whether you simply count on opening Galaxy Queen's Light or try to search it).
Thanks for the info.
Interesting I thought game mechanics hard capped lvl at 12
Oh my God, the Neo-Daedalus debacle is one of my oldest Yugioh memories. Dumb kid me was so excited to bring his structure deck to his first locals, only to Summon Neo and get told by some middle aged dude that reading the card did not, in fact, explain the card. We had to call the judge over because I could not fathom the concept of a misprint, and I was so sad when the judge confirmed. I was like six at the time.
I'd gentleman to allow it for the one duel. You got excited to play it in a certain way, might as well have you pop off first before using the right rulings. Someone did this for me back in the xyz era when I was just starting to play ygo with actual people and it helped to motivate me. Was playing Gustos and thought they recur and summoned from deck even when used as synchro material. Only learned it didn't work that way when I fought someone else using that same deck. Asked the dude why he let me do it next time we fought and he replied "well it's your favourite deck (at the time) and you were so excited everytime you pulled it off I decided to let it slide." Legit one of my core memories
@@HazeEmrytelling a new player that their deck doesn’t work because of missing the timing is like a supervillain origin story. I need a Yugioh antagonist that plays broken Yang zings
Whats weird is in the TCG we had goyo at 1 and then at 3 for about 5 months before the OCG announced the Errata in the mid arc v era. :We were all like huh thats kinda weird", and then got the Errata in Duelist Saga.
Zoo was OUT by that time
I'd just like to point out that, realistically, the only required change to Ring to prevent draws was the last one, which made the person activating it take damage first.
People would find some way to change their life points to being higher. Think the Monarch FTK but sort of in reverse. Way to easy to break.
Think of the ByshBalkin FTK. You need to summon a bunch of hard to summon monsters, Machu Meck and ByshBalkin, and do it in a certain order using ALOT of cards to make it happen. Even then people still FTK with it on master duel.
You give players an inch, they will take ALL of the possible FTK’s and annoy people.
@@kingmatthewlegoHe's talking about preventing draws, not FTKs. Also, FTKs can be prevented by a simple HOPT, and if that's not enough, either being limited, or banned works just as well.
@@joseruizdiaz9622 a HOPT doesn’t matter that much. The problem is it would be used to easily end the game in a dumb way. Now a days you can just summon ByshBalkin use a card to lessen or nullify the damage you take like hanawata and set ring (which is searchable by stuff like triple tack and trap trix) and end the game as soon as your opponent starts there FIRST TURN. Plus there are other reasons for the errata
It was a super iconic card. People wanted to play it so if they gotta errata it so be it. Plus there are cards that need it specifically to work, the legendary dragon Fang of Crit, so they had to bring it back somehow.
Plus it still does the same thing, just restricted in ways to make it fair.
Here's a fun trivia: There's a rule in Yugioh that says you must wait for an effect to finish resolving before you check for victory conditions. Its why if you draw the last piece of Exodia with Dark World Dealings, you must discard first before instantly winning.
They changed this rule exclusively for LP, right before releasing the RoR errata, because even that errata wouldn't prevent draws, as you would have to wait until your opponent took the damage and the card finishes resolving before checking if someone won or lost. It also meant that Berserker Soul, which was released prior to this, could no longer cause damage even after reducing the opponent's LP to 0 and was no longer able to replicate the iconic anime scene.
@@kingmatthewlegochanging the card to be unplayable because of very niche unlikely situations isn't a good reason to kill a card with an errata.
I'll never forgive them for what they did to Dark Magician of Chaos. Now instead of getting the Spell back immediately, you get it back at the end of your turn, if it remains on the field until that point(also it's a HOPT which is annoying but not surprising). So you don't even get to use that spell until your next turn, and you're left with a piece of your end board that does nothing to disrupt your opponent. I guess in fringe cases, you could use it to recur a Runick spell if you still control Fountain.
In addition, and this one gets overlooked, but DMOC's ability to banish any monster it destroys by battle is now a Trigger effect instead of a Continuous effect, so now it can be disrupted by effects that negate monster effects.
I had no idea about them turning the continuous effect into a trigger effect, holy shit they absolutely gutted him worse than I thought. I pulled one out of a pack in a Command Knight tin in like 2005 so this one stings quite a bit. That really sucks
True i think DMOC and chaos emperor dragon didn't need an errata, even though they were broken they should have just banned them for the time being, like they did with the dragon rulers, and un ban them once they can still be played but won't be as broken as they were before
@@RohanSingh-cf9tk Yeah big changes shouldn't happen. They should just leave them on the list. We have worse stuff on there.
People always overlook the other errata done to CED at the same time. As if adding that final effect didnt kill the card, at the same time they made it so it does 300 damage for each card sent to your OPPONENTS graveyard, whereas previouslty it counted cards sent to your graveyard too
Goyo fell off so hard, that Blackwings got a generic Goyo synchro, that foolishes, and is a tuner to synchro climb and is still mid.
The thing with Rampart Blaster is, that in the OCG, it has always meant that, if there was an opening for a direct attack, you could hit with him being in defense, but for us it was described as being able to poke directly if it is in defense, as if that was the condition, no matter the amount of monsters on the field. I remember playing GX tag force as a kid, and I was confused why I couldn't attack directly, even though the card literally said so.
Rampart Blaster is a really interesting case because in the anime it could attack through monsters, but when they printed it Konami ruled that it couldn't, whereas Upper Deck ruled that it could, so it was banned from Worlds. Then to try to avoid this problem when the card was reprinted in the TCG they added errata text to it to make it fit the Japanese ruling, only for the Japanese ruling to change to say it COULD attack directly in 2015, meaning they had to reprint it AGAIN in the TCG to fit the original TCG form of the card... which was now the correct Japanese ruling. It's hilarious
Chaos Emperor Dragon: *can be summoned by banishing a Light and a Dark from the graveyards and is a Dragon*
Me: "Is that a motherfucking Bystial?"
Goyo Guardian's weird errata made it more in line with only some of the new Goyo cards from Arc-V but we had it legal in TCG at the time and it hardly saw any play before they made it literally unplayable in most of the decks that would have used it if they had an open slot
None of the other Goyos require an earth, they just like nerf the monster you steal, and are all functionally Goyo at different levels
It's probably also worth noting that in 5Ds, Goyo Guardian wasn't even summoned using Earth tuners exclusively. One of the tuners used to summon it was Torapart, which was DARK.
They made more Goyo cards???
@@o7_AP Yes, about half a dozen.
Some of them let you steal monsters the same way Goyo Guardian does except you can Special Summon the destroyed monsters in attack position.
One of them, Goyo Emperor, even extends this effect to all monsters you control but don't own (with the downside of returning all monsters to their owners, if Emperor leaves the field).
It's not meta or anything but funny when you get it off.
Though, the Goyo Defender is sometimes used as a generic Rank 3 engine.
Weird erratum?
The truly weird part is that the generic Level 6 Synchro with the highest ATK stat (which dwarved and still outclasses most higher Level Synchros) not only had an effect at all but had an effect that could decide games on its own when it was released.
My favorite one is the Ocean Dragon Lord - Neo Daedalus. I had two copies of this card. The original didn't have the summon restriction that the errata got.
That card was nuts. Tribute Umi and send everything from both fields and hands to the graveyard, except Neo Daedalus. 🥵
The flushed zeus
No, reverse it, the rank 12 neo-daedalus
Wet Ass Sky Scourge Noreleras.
Big wave small wave to this let me sweep the board in my hogh school days...ah nostalgia
I didn't know about Ocean Dragon Lord - Neo-Daedalus requiring Levia Dragon - Daedalus until much later because I only had and still have the original misprint from the Structure Deck.
Tbh i like the Ring errata that avoids ties, but the numerous other changes are overkill. If a card is too strong i'd rather have it banned with a respectable legacy than gut it. It becomes even worse in MD where you CAN'T emulate the old functions of cards so old formats are just really hard to make work in the client.
It was a super iconic card. People wanted to play it so if they gotta errata it so be it. Plus there are cards that need it specifically to work, the legendary dragon Fang of Crit, so they had to bring it back somehow.
@@kingmatthewlego "Plus there are cards that need it specifically to work" that has not stoped them from releasing various cards that are banded that "need them to work" what about all the cards that need you to discard/use metamorphosis on there og counter part they legit unplayable and most are unplayable even if the card in question was legal because of how bad they are
they not "fixed" either card or many others that fall in same vain so that statement is a lie and has nothing to do with why they bring back a card 99% of the time its solely to make money off of nostalgia
@@kingmatthewlego lol this guy's still here defending konami with his copy pasted comments
Hey remember the super iconic Goyo Guardian and all the cards that need it specifically to function? Me neither
@@lotus_emanon we weren’t talking about Goyo, we were talking about Ring of Destruction.
I thought the Goyo errata was unnecessary. That errata specifically wasn’t needed as it was already fine to remove from the list by that time.
Ring if destruction was COMPLETELY different. It was to powerful without the errata even years after its release around the time they changed it.
I think errata’s CAN be good and should happen in some cases (imagine if they gave an errata to Firewall Dragon early, would have saved the community from SO MUCH toxic looping and FTKs). That being said I think some of the errata’s aren’t correct.
@@reddragon9064 cards like Neo Bubble Man don’t compare to the Fang of Criteus. Plus nostalgia does play a factor in there game design, why do you think we get so many Blue Eyes and Dark Magician retrains? Plus ring itself is very Nostalgic.
Look I’m not gonna argue every errata is good, but not all are bad either. Think from both perspectives.
I missed the Twitter thread for this but my answer would have been CED. My favorite card from childhood, absolutely obliterated.
haven't watched yet, shocked no one mentioned it I thought it would be the one Joseph mentioned since it's so iconic and iconically ruined
edit: nvm it was mentioned lol
@randomname9723 They do mention it, it's just what I would have suggested had I replied to the Twitter thread.
I just don't get why they lowered its damage at the same time. The few times I can get that effect off I should be able to win with a big damage blast.
This is what I was thinming
I actually still have a pre-errata crush card virus, and because I forgot it had an errata, used it to absolutely stomp some guys back in high school. Granted, most of their decks were playground-style and I had also been the one who taught them how to play, so it’s not that impressive. Still, such an insane card.
Naw let’s talk about how weird necrovalley errata history is. 9 errata for a totally different card each time
I think Rampart blaster got changed because it made a lot of kids (me included) think it could actually attack directly, as in it had the effect to ignore enemy monsters, as opposed to this card can attack while in defense position, but only directly
Yeah I believe it was always intended to work like how it does now. The errata was just making it easier to understand like problem solving card text
But it can do that! Its how it was used in the anime! The first errata just plain doesn't make sense!
Okay, so here's the deal.
Rampart Blaster was originally used in the anime to attack directly through monsters. When the card was printed, however, for some unknown reason, Konami decided to rule in the OCG that it couldn't attack if monsters were present. Meanwhile, Upper Deck ruled that it COULD attack directly through monsters in the TCG. This led to confusion that made the card get banned for Worlds, because it was ruled differently in two places. What happened afterwards was several years of chaos. The TCG reprinted the card in 2011 and changed the text to fit the Japanese ruling - that it couldn't attack through monsters. But ironically, in 2015, the Japanese ruling changed and it was allowed to attack through monsters again - and it'd never been errata'd or reprinted in Japan, so it was like they'd just made it fit what its text should have been doing the whole time. So the TCG had to go and get rid of the errata they went out of their way to add to the card just to line up with the Japanese ruling at the time. It's very silly.
I wouldn't mind the crush card errata so much of they simply didn't allow the opponent to triple foolish burial, and honestly the ring of destruction errata should have only included the part where you take damage first.
The hard once-per-turn also seems reasonable.
@@xCorvus7x that too, I forget it wasn't always that. It feels like automatic text these days
I think the second errata of E HERO Rampart Blaster happened because of the OCG Ruling where the card can't attack directly in DEF unless your opponent controls no monsters
Yeah the errata didn’t change the effect, it just made it more clear that it follows those certain rulings
old future fusion would in fact be absolutely hilarious in exactly infernoid, as it would allow you to foolish your entire deck because tierra's materials are onuncu + devyaty + 1+ infernoid monsters
Not only Infernoid: Dragon decks can also foolish an arbitrary number of dragons thanks to Albaz and Alba-Lenatus.
@@xCorvus7x that is terrifying!
@@pleasehelpmeivebecomeabug indeed
Any deck could use it as a foolish with the E-HERO attribute fusions
@@kingmatthewlego That was something people did?
Ocean Dragon Lord misprint was hella broken but the cards that suffered the most from erratas were Firewall Dragon, Disk Commander, Sinister Serpent, Strike Fighter, CED and probably Brionac.
I own one of the pre-errata Neo Daedalus
I normal summoned it at my very first locals
I also own it
It’s weird when you compare the restrictions on Eratta’d Goyo with Nat Beast.
Like, they obviously knew that Beast was way too strong to be generic while they were making it, and knew restricting it to only earth materials would drastically limit it’s playability.
But then they thought that Goyo was almost equivalent in power to deserve a similar restriction???
Really??? They thought Naturia Beast’s effect of “mill powered Imperial Order” was on par with Goyo Gaurdian’s effect of “battle dependent monster reborn”?
mill powered _one-sided_ Imperial Order
While I agree the erratum is a bit harsh, you have to admit that it's weird that the generic Level 6 Synchro with the highest ATK stat (which dwarved and still outclasses most higher Level Synchros) not only had an effect at all but had an effect that could decide games on its own back then.
@@xCorvus7x it’s only a one-sided Imperial Order if you’re a coward. Real duelists negate their own spells with Nat Beast to flex.
@@TheFourthBlackReaper You could also use it to mill.
Making That Grass Greener one spell/green card at a time.
Come to think of it, Beast was not nearly as powerful back then as it is today.
The game was slower and most removal came in form of traps instead of spells while spell cards (combo enablers as well as others) weren't nearly as impactful as they are today, so usually you'd actually prefer Barkion over Beast.
Goyo Guardian's effect is an immediate plus one (two if you count the destruction by battle as part of it) unlike Beast's mill which had to hit the right cards which were also rarer back then, so Goyo Guardian might actually have been the better card for quite a while.
At least that's how it was during the Synchro era. I don't know what things were like when Goyo Guardian was erratad.
They errata’s Element Mistress Doriado so it’s only treated as a LIGHT, FIRE, WIND, EARTH, WATER while on the field, instead of everywhere. Never forget what they took from you.
In all fairness, can you imagine how many ftks there would be if we still had pre-errata Dark Strike Fighter? Pre-errata Firewall would be blushing.
I have a fun rule in my cube where cards do exactly as they say, which means I have errata'd and un-errata'd copies of cards to be drafted like Crush Card Virus, Brain Control, Ring of Destruction, and even cards like Skull Lair (which originally let you banish any card from GY) or Goddess of Whim!
4:34 Ah yes, the 1500 ATK Babycerasaurus.
Destroy Misc, Giant Rex, and Overtex.
Any deck could also theoretically side in so you can Pop lithosagym, mare-mare, and shadow mist/malicious
Or like going + a million off popping 3 hands in deck.
Speaking as someone who has devoutly played burn over 14 years in over 10,000 duels, I can state with great certainty that Ring of Destruction is still an excellent card, albeit, in that context. Also, Joseph, you need to count again; it has five: you can only activate one per turn, which was not part of its original effect.
He also missed that it does damage based on original attack, there's legit I think six different changes to Ring of Destruction.
@@lamiaprincess6371 correct; I knew there were six!
Goyo getting the nerf puts it in line with its anime counterpart where it was summoned using Jute Fighter.
I'm pretty sure it was also summoned with the dark tuner torapart in literally the same season
We are making yugioh cards great again
the rampart blaster thing is 100% just a misinterpretation of the effect during a reprint
like, its effect is that it can attack your opponent directly while in defense position. it can attack _only_ your opponent directly while in defense position. and you can't attack your opponent directly while they control monsters, right? so, this card that can attack while in defense position to attack your opponent directly surely _must_ only be able to do so while their field is empty, yeah?
it's a perfectly understandable train of logic if you forget the fact that jinzo #7 came out seven years earlier
I think the ishizu cards have interesting synergy with exchange of the spirit. Activate exchange, then chain mudora or keldo to shuffle back 5, so they only have 10 in deck. Then Kelbek mills 10, gg.
Plus Gravekeeper's trap gives you a window to actually chain all this stuff. When it activates at the start of your opponent's turn, chain its second effect discarding kelbek, chain exchange, chain mudora.
Old ring with Thrust sounds fun
im so happy darkness approaches was mentioned. it was errated before master rule 4 in fear of people flipping links face-down.
but bruh, IF YOU'RE LOSING 3 DAMN CARDS just to flip ONE MONSTER face down, you deserve to play it's unerrata.
I think they gave it an errata because it would have been a ruling headache for the judges
Idea for future archetype: E-Rata
E-Rata's are an archetype themed around cards that have been on the ban list that received an errata, their artwork depicts the Errata'd cards in a worn down almost pathetic state while their effects revolve around banishment (homage to them being banned).
Ex:
Chaos E-Rata Dragon, Envoy of the End
Dragon/Effect
Lvl8 Dark
Effect: Must first be special summoned by banishing 2 "E-Rata" monsters from your GY.
Pay 1000 LPs, banish all cards on the field and in both players hands (cards on the field are banished face up, while cards in hand are banished face-down) inflict damage to your opponent equal to the number of cards banished by this effect x100. During your opponent's Stand by phase add cards that were banished face down by this effect back to their owner's hands and send face up banished cards from either player to the GY, up to the number of banished "E-Rata" cards.
Goyo E-Rata Guardian
Synchro/Warrior
lvl6 Earth
1 Tuner + 1 Non tuner
If this card was synchro summoned using an "E-Rata" monster as material it gains the following effect
-If this card destroys a monster in battle you can banish that monster, then during the End Phase special summon that monster to your side of the field in defense position, it's effects are negated and it is treated as an "E-Rata" monster as well as a tuner.
During the end phase, banish this card and return the materials used for its Synchro summon to the field, but their effects are negated and they cannot be used as material for a summon except for a "E-Rata" monster or be tributed except for the tribute summon of an "E-Rata" monster.
Ring of E-Rata-struction
Trap
Effect: Destroy 1 monster on the field and banish it. During the End phase both players lose LP equal to the banished monster's ATK. If the monster banished was an "E-Rata" you gain LPs equal to its atk instead while your opponent takes damage.
This card is banished instead of going to the GY.
Imperial E-Rata
Continuous Trap
pay 700LPs each players Stand by phase, if you cannot pay, you take 700 points of damage instead, if you control a face up "E-Rata" monster you do not have to pay LPs during your turn and if you cannot, you can instead inflict 700 points of damage to your opponent instead.
Negate the effects of all spell cards on the field, except E-Rata spell cards.
If this card is destroyed, banish it.
Brain E-Rata
Spell
Effect: pay 800LPs target a non-"E-Rata" monster on your opponent's side of the field and take control of it. if you control an "E-Rata" monster you can take control of another card. If the cards are effect monsters, their effects become: "This card is treated as an "E-Rata" card, if it leaves the field or would be sent to the GY it is banished face-down instead.".
Sinister Erata Serpent
Reptile
lvl 1 WATER
Effect: if you control an "E-Rata" card while this card is banished. add this card back to your hand.
If this card is banished by an "E-Rata" effect you can add to your hand E-Rata cards that are banished up to the number of Sinister E-Rata Serpents that are banished.
E-Rata Card Virus
Trap
Tribute 1 E-Rata monster, negate the effects of all monsters in both players hands, except E-Rata monsters. Until the 3rd stand by phase after this card's activation any cards your opponent draws must be revealed and then banished face down unless it is an E-rata card. The effects of all monsters on your opponents side of the field become "This card is treated as an "E-Rata" monster and cannot be used as material for a summon, except for an "E-Rata" monster"
Exchange of E-Rata spirits
Trap
if you have exactly 10 "E-Rata" cards banished face up; pay 500LP for each "E-Rata" monster banished. you and your opponent can send cards to the GY up the total number of banished cards from both players, card effects cannot be activated in the GY the turn this is activated, except E-Rata monsters. all cards that are banished are returned to the deck and shuffled.
Future E-Rata
Continuous Spell
Effect: Reveal 1 E-Rata monster in your extra deck and banish the required materials from it face up.
During your opponent's Main Phase, if they activated a card or effect or special summoned from the extra deck, you can special summon the revealed monster from your extra deck(this summon is treated as that cards required summoning method), if summoned this way it cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects, but it is banished during the End Phase and the monsters banished by this card's effect are sent to the GY.
I used Neo-Daedalus in playground duels during high school, and none of us knew about the erratta/misprint. I used to get him out in the field by using *Big Wave Small Wave*. I was so sad when I learned about it.
Ring of destruction also changed from dealing damage equal to ATK on field to original ATK so technically 5 changes
The hopt wasn't there, either.
I don't think even a single aspect of the card was kept the same, at that point they really could've just made a new card.
Im still confused at how someone read Firewall's original effect and said " yup this is fair and balanced". like people where comming up with FTK hours after it was announced.
I once beat an Eldlich player by running over his Eldlich's with Goyo Guardian and stealing them in an Adamnci-Magnet deck. Was hilarious
4:37 Last I checked, Babycerasaurus only had 500 attack points.
He said like Baby, not actually baby. Think unchained cards.
For envoy of the end, I remember play agaist a younger player at local and someone else must explain him the restriction because he activated 5 cards/effects already this turn
One of the worst things about Ring of Destruction's errata is that it destroyed the Ring of Destruction/Defense combo.
I mean, yeah, that probably wasn't happening too much in real life, but it's a travesty to make it where cards that are designed to be used together become worthless as a combo instead.
RIP the Barrel Behind the Door FTK.
I love the pause every time he says "among"
Magic Ruler getting errata'd to Spell Ruler.
Ahh, the days of the "Ocean Dragon Lord Redemption Center". That was hilarious.
Once per duel Disk Commander would have been fine. Summoning sickness made it unplayable. Doesn't work with any of the intended modern HERO lines with cross crusader, vyon, and friends.
Not really an errata but kinda fits the theme. Things like spygal misty still send me into a rage. Why make unsearchable support cards in an archetype? Also wasn't hundred eyes dragon a searchable red eyes card before it got changed?
SPYGAL Misty just needs a condition "This card is always treated as a SPYRAL card." And yes, Hundred Eyes Dragon was accidentally part of the Red-Eyes archetype until it got errata'd.
@@Kylora2112 at least misty fits the lore a traitor
I love being at the end of the video, seeing 30 seconds left, and knowing there's an after credits scene
the marvel movie experience
This is the earliest I've been to an MBT video, nice
Exchange of the Spirit is still haha funny as it is because somehow swapping the deck and the GY does not count as sending the cards in the deck to the GY, so no floating triggers.
I just realized ring of destruction would be crazy for ftks nowadays the errata makes sense a bit more
I miss when Aluber could only search Despia spell/traps
That was never a thing. It was misprinted in Europe. Everywhere else had the proper text.
I mean the Burstinatrix errata just makes it true now - Shadow Mist, Poison Rose, Lady Heat, Rampart Blaster, etc.
Another possible reason why Goyo Guardian got ettra was because there exist a genetic level 6 effectless scynro monster named Gaia knight the force of earth with 200 less artack than goyo guardian which completely makes "Gaia knight the force of earth"
Pointless to have in the first place because think about it there is no good arugment that can be made for summoning out Gaia knight the force of earth over goyo guardian when they are both Level 6 Earth warrior scynro monster's but goyo having more attack and much higher defensive along with having an effect made Gaia knight completely redundant.
what was the background music that dire put on this video? It reminds me so much of a touhou arrange
The first card that comes to mind when terrible erratas come up would be Chaos Emperor Dragon.
Without the errata the card would be BROKEN in today’s game. Way to easy to hand loop it really needed the errata
@@kingmatthewlego It still feels like "why unban it if it's going to be actually useless now?"
God, I WISH that was Ocean Dragon Lord Neo-Dedalus's actual effect, imagine how much stronger of a deck Daedalus Legendary Ocean would have been and would be today if it were.
One more thing about the massacring of Sinister Serpent is that there are similar effect Old cards like Shiba-Warrior Taro and Fox Fire that similarly special summon themselves from the graveyard and has never been changed at all (from what i know) since their creation.
The issue was Serpent effectively gave you essentially infinite discard material. Those 2 cards you mentioned have specific activation conditions. Plus a card similar to those but less restrictive, Samsara Lotus, was used to FTK.
Yeah, that's true. And with the only real counter being banish, which was a much less common effect back then yes, the eratta does make sense.
Honestly the condition that most hurts Ring of Destruction is the one that stops you using it on monsters with more ATK than your opponents lifepoints. I put it in a deck for a Master Duel event that didn't allow spells before I realized that was part of the card. I did use it to win against dinomorphia before I figured it out though
It wasn’t until this video that I realized Yu-Gi-Oh! has lowercase letters, capital letters, and CAPITAL LETTERS. That’s so weird!
Lmfao the arise heart at the end lol
Saw the Twitter thread but didn't have an idea for a reply at the time. I do now!
Hundred Eyes Dragon. Changed from Hundred-Eyes Dragon, because it could (theoretically) benefit from Red-Eyes support.
I played the misprinted Neo-Daedalus for a while. I was a kid and got that structure deck for christmas/birthday that year or whatever. It was big and cool looking so it made it into my Kid Pile Of Booster Packs build. As a 2900 beater. I didn't run Umi or Smaller Daedalus. That deck got second in my High School's anime club's Yugioh tournament in 2014 basically unchanged.
One guy was on Dark World, another was on 27-card Galaxy-Eyes, and the winner was playing Machina Malefic. I owed my victory to stalling out with Shield Wing! Fun times. That tournament was a totally unregulated shitshow, obviously, but it was fun. The winner took pity on me, I guess, and gave me a tin full of his GAOV scraps. Had like 5 copies of Doom Donuts. Epic.
The amount of restrictions added to Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon made it a shell of it's former self. Not saying the original should come back, but like the comment about CED, I'd rather see it on the ban list than what it is now.
Darkness Metal is still a Great card. The errata just stopped stupid looping nonsense.
still cracked and can off a bmd become a link 2.
Before it could become like 4 materials total which was stupid
People being upset about Crush Card Virus's errata as if people don't also want their big brother Eradicator banned for being unfair and annoying.
I'd still rather have it be banned than the way it is now.
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How can you not mention fairy king truesdale.
While this was more about cards that were errata'd to free them from the banlist, as a Yugiboomer, thisthisthis. No one had the TFK Fairy King print, it was all the WC4 print, and learning that the text was an error was *crushing*.
Because if you're going to one tribute a gigantic beatstick in early Yugioh, you would one tribute White Horned Dragon for 3700 and beat over 2700 truesdales
Wait, ice mirror is actually interesting with the new Ice Barrier stuff. Have mirror master on the field, activate Ice Mirror, get a monster and activate its effect then tribute it for Mirror Master
I always liked Burstinatrix for that flavor text. You go girl
Goyo guardian, a generic level 6 synchro, was stronger and easier to summon than every other synchro monster at the time. Imagine a level 6 with 2800 attack beating over (and stealing) a level 8 stardust dragon
Every Edison player knows this pain.
Yeah, the erratum might be a bit harsh but it is certainly sensible.
Goyo Guardian was an advantage machine able to decide games by himself.
@@xCorvus7x Except uh...the errata happened in 2016 or something, WHEN GOYO GUARDIAN WAS ALREADY AT 3 IN THE TCG
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Sure, by then Goyo Guardian didn't do anything either way (to be clear, I was speaking of the Synchro era, when Goyo Guardian was a staple).
However, if you consider the underlying game design, Goyo Guardian should all along have had either lower stats, a weaker effect, or non-generic material.
Lower stats make his effect less useful and his effect already comes with a reasonable downside (negating those monsters' effects on top of it doesn't really matter since even in 2012 you often just used the stolen monsters as material).
Non-generic material seems like the way to go.
The thing is, most of the overcompensation is fixed by dialing back a little on the restrictions.
For Ring, all you need to keep it from being super toxic is the restriction that it can't be used to inflict more damage than your opponent has LP. It being a trap alone causes you to need setup, and the mutual burn means it could be worse for you in a gamestate where decks seek to kill you in a single turn. With a lot of monsters having inherent protection, from targeting and/or destruction, it means Ring already has inbuilt ways to limit its use.
CED could stand to simply be unable to use its effect during the same turn it was summoned, rather than restricting you from using any other types of effects. I'd personally try to errata it first by saying you can't use it in the same turn you special summon it by its own effect, meaning if you cheat it out you still can, but that might be a little too toxic. If so, just making sure it can't nuke everything during the turn it was summoned by any means seems fine.
Crush... this is actually a weird one to me. If you don't restrict it enough, it becomes a mess of things, but the idea of placing so many restrictions on it but also changing the effect to one where the opponent gets to freely benefit is wrong. To me, keep the added restrictions, but keep the idea of simply negging any monster with 1500+ ATK your opponent draws. I do think that the GY at this point is nearly as dangerous a place to have the monsters anyway and the prolific amount of spell/trap cards that just grab them back anyway makes even the OG Crush Card hard to use. So, if we keep the restrictions, cards shouldn't be sent to the GY and instead should be banished or shuffled back into the deck. Either that, or just keep the OG Crush.
So, my changes:
Ring: Target 1 Monster on the Field: Destroy that Monster and, if you do, inflict damage to both Player's LP equal to that Monster's original ATK. You cannot target a Monster with an original ATK equal to or greater than your opponent's current LP.
CED: Cannot be Norma Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your Hand) by Banishing 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK Monster from your GY. Once per turn: You can pay 1000 LP; Send as many cards as possible from the field and both Players' hands to the GY and, then, inflict 300 damage to your opponent's LP for each card sent to their GY this way. You cannot use this effect during the same turn you Summon this card.
Crush: Tribute 1 DARK Monster you control with 1000 or less ATK; Look at your opponent's Hand, all Monsters they control and, during their next 2 Draw Phases, all cards they Draw, and Banish all Monsters among those cards that have 1500 or more ATK. Your opponent takes no damage, by battle or effect, until your next Standby Phase. You cannot activate this card during a turn in which your opponent has taken damage.
7:50 lmao Icejade players probably need this
6:10 we actually do have those in Yugioh, functionally. The "once while face up on the field" mechanically works exactly the same as a soft once per duel would.
Well, twin behemoth brought us the og soft once per duel and it was a nightmare lol
Man…that Ice Mirror would be funny in Manadome without the ass restriction. Actually just special summon another Meek (even though you can already do so by destroying it yourself).
the Egyptian God cards a whole
King of the Bussy. An MBT Cartoon.
For emperor dragon, I wonder if it'd be fine if they changed the effect condition to just restrict graveyard effects instead? Idk, I haven't really played with/against chaos lately, so I'm not sure how much that'd actually matter.
No even then something like the Yata lock would still be possible. Hand ripping is usually broken. Board nukes are usually good. Old Emperor Dragon did BOTH.
Man did I piss off a lot of opponents with Old Ring of Destruction + Pikeru's Circle of Enchantment 😅
The crazy turnaround on this thread
i still have my miss-printed of the 1st neo-daedalous
Here's one nobody ever talks about with erratas:I used to play evos back in the day after they were competitive. Evolsaur Terias used to get a beneficial eff of gained 500 atk putting it to 2900 and after the errata they made it so it loses 500 so it is a negative eff to do what the deck is designed to do. The only reason I could think they changed that is the xyz which are supposed to be the next evolution all would have had less than him. Idk now I just want to summon off of Elias instead
I still remember the one time I lost a game because of CED's errata in MD, because I thought the activation lock was the only errata. Had enough to burn for lethal (like ~3000 at the time) by wiping both our hands and fields, then they took less than half the expected damage because they had like 3 cards and I'd had 7. I even had game if I hadn't used CED's effect I only activated it because I didn't spot the errata made it so the burn is only for your opponent's cards sent and I thought it'd be funny. I then proceeded to brick and get beaten to death for 3 turns by a 1900 beater they top-decked immediately.
I guess the change to only burning for the opponent's cards was done in response to the ftk setups, but because people seem to only acknowledge the restriction of preventing you from activating effects after using it I didn't even realise the burn was also changed.
God I miss my boi
CED and CCV should've just stayed banned, Brain Control's a shame but at least several years went by between it's errata and Change of Heart being limited (though the errata should probably be reverted now).
Oh wow, I started playing Yugioh again after the Firewall errata so I'd always assumed Firewall was a soft once per turn and people were looping it somehow to do FTK bullshit and they needed to add a hard once per turn.
WTF Konami, you genuinely printed a card that said summon any monster from hand without even a SOFT once per turn?
Yes. They did. And the worst part about that? THE ANIME DIDN'T EVEN USE THAT EFFECT MORE THAN ONCE A TURN IN ANY DUEL HE FEATURED IN. I went back through every single duel that Yusaku used Firewall Dragon in, and in every single one, he only used that special from hand effect once a turn. So the errata we now have for Firewall basically makes it just like it was used in the anime, yet for some reason, Konami decided to initially make the card GENERIC! In fact, the card was SO broken, that people literally broke the card in half within 24 hours of its REVEAL. Not its release in the OCG. Its initial REVEAL to the OCG.
And they honestly thought BANNING A-ASSAULT CORE was the fix to the problem that was the myriad of Firewall FTKs XDD
It took Firewall getting an upgraded form in the anime for it to get the hammer. Due to it being an "ace monster" they couldn't touch it. The card was toxic and because they couldn't ban it, other decks like ABC suffered collateral damage.
@@vgmaster02 For reference, A-Assault Core wasn't banned, it was limited - I was around during the Firewall FTK format, so I know this detail
I'm genuinely curious what the branding decision is supposed to be behind replacing the iconic "Em BEE TEE" with these new intros.
Envoy Dragon was perfectly errated
I wish Goyo was a much more realized archetype. The simple fact that it's got a Synchro monster that can special summon itself out of the Extra Deck for free is so incredibly overlooked.
I think Maxx "C" should get the same errata that Chaos Emperor Dragon got, that would make it WAY more fair.
It's wild they just straight up forgot to print Ocean Dragon Lord - Neo Daedalus' summoning condition. Truly a 5Head move.
Another change that makes ring unplayable that wasn't mentioned in the video, New ring burn cares about Original attack instead of current attack as the old version did. What this means is if by some miracle a monster on the field matches exactly the opponents life points due to an effect it either kills them if it's a decreased attack or leaves them alive. Adding additional frustration to an already frustrating errata
Conversely if their attack has been lowered, you can still kill your opponent with it.
ced also only does damage fo each OPPONENT card sent not all cards like it used to
Funny thing about CCV in this current format, it actually it pretty alright against Kash, but yeah that extra "Foolish" is so stupid.
0:08 That MBT ain't right, I tell you hwat
Catapult turtle got an errata to once per turn so you have jump through hoops to ftk with it. Meanwhile canon soldier is still the same.
At least it’s banned in the OCG
Tbh Goyo should have had like 2400 ATK in all honesty. Gaia got power crept immediately.