This is the first debate ever on the question: Is Islam True? Please share your thoughts and comments! Timestamps: 00:00:00 Apostate Prophet Opening Statement 00:12:50 Dr Abdul Majid Opening Statement 00:25:30 Apostate Prophet Rebuttal 00:31:46 Dr Abdul Majid Rebuttal 00:38:00 Open Discussion: Arabic Necessary? Who is Qualified? 00:49:55 Predestination vs. Free Will 01:21:00 Muhammad's Failed Prophecy Questions & Answers 01:25:05 Majid: Does Allah Know Human Experience? 01:26:23 AP: Is Safe Incest Wrong? 01:28:10 Majid: Are your Arguments Circular Reasoning? 01:29:35 AP: Is Slavery Historically Justifiable? 01:30:50 Majid: Why Argue for General Theism? 01:32:35 AP: Are Christianity & Judaism Beautiful? 01:33:44 Majid: Quran Contradiction? 01:37:35 Majid: What Should Happen to Apostates? 01:41:46 Majid: Is Hell Literal or Metaphorical? 01:42:22 Majid: Muhammad Marrying Adopted Son's Wife 01:43:47 AP: Why do Christians Support an Atheist? 01:44:55 Majid: Is the Quran Necessary? 01:47:17 Majid: Should Hijab be Compulsory? 01:49:32 Majid: Did You Answer AP's Questions? 01:51:35 Majid: Why Do We Need Arabic? 01:54:12 Majid: Muhammad's Child Marriage? 01:57:25 Majid: Your Education 01:58:56 Majid: Did You Address Arguments? 01:59:38 Majid: Explanations to the Big Bang 02:00:40 Majid: Why Do You Greet an Apostate? 02:02:08 AP & Majid: Child Marriage Justified? 02:04:22 Majid: Why Are Animals Killed? 02:06:22 AP & Majid: Virgins in Heaven 02:08:15 Majid: Does Morality Change? 02:10:10 Majid: Forbidding Churches & Synagogues 02:11:55 Majid: Where is Sperm Located? 02:12:39 Majid: Predestination & Free Will? 02:13:49 AP: Are You Open Minded? 02:14:30 Majid: Is Child Marriage a Problem? 02:15:55 Majid: Husband-Beating 02:19:50 Majid: 1. Child Marriage 2. Jinns in Hell 02:22:35 AP: How Do You Explain Muhammad's Miracles? 02:25:26 Majid: Disbelief + My Cat 02:27:04 Majid: Is Allah a Deceiver? + Ex-Muslim Stereotype 02:30:00 Majid: Muhammad Tongue-Kissing Grandson 02:31:10 Majid: Does Islam Allow Lying?
Thanks for your insight on this barbaric religion! I like your rebuttals, however I do not understand your complete points on Islam because I’m an atheist that left Christianity and I have more of a bone to pick with it.
I find it very funny that when a Muslim wants to convert you to Islam, speaking and understanding Arabic isn’t really necessary but if you start to question Islam, you cannot because you do not speak or understand the Arabic language.🤣🤣🤣
Just like they say you can not criticize the Quran if you can not read Arabic. But they can criticize the Bible without being able to read Biblical Greek or Hebrew.
Islamic logic: "Allah" is God Who said that? Mohammed Who's Mohammed ? A prophet Who said he's prophet ? Quran Who created Quran ? Mohammed Bottom line: It is what it is, coz some random Arab dude said so ! Deal with it..🤷🏻♂️
Kevin Stone You must have been living under a rock. The opposite is true Christianity is losing ground to Islam thousands are converting to Islam on a daily basis.
@@ashwayn Submitting under threat of violence is called suffering under abuse and terror. The quran has no redeeming qualities. Least of all in terms of morality.
**********⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️********** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ************are all prophets according to the Quran***********
Intelligence comes with faith. The Dr. is trying 30 minutes to explain if you violently debunk Harvard Medical school and you don’t even know English and have no background in medicine, that’s just miracle of ridiculousness. Rezvan doesn’t get it !!!!!!!!! Fans applaud most one sided debate !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@nimagougol8781 Intelligence is inherited. Either you have intelligence by birth or you don't. That's why you see some children as more intelligent than others when you are in school.
I think Dr Majid is one of those unfortunate people who have found themselves in a religion and have never bothered to examine it's claims or understand it enough to debate it. He looks like a good,honest, well meaning muslim. AP thanks for coming out and pointing out things that people desperately want to explain away. Its time to face the ugly truth.
What if you know it was a lie, because the life of prophet was all messed up with sins like, had sucidal tendency, sex with slaves, orders killing etc. When ever there was a problem the verse use to come out
@@loopydoopi Muslims claim that everyone is born a Muslim and doesn't convert to Islam, they revert. That means Islam is the largest apostatized religion in the world.
It still takes a lot of willpower and comfort to leave the religion even you are proven it's false though. Abdul Majid, I'm sure, in his rational mind has no argument against anything AP brought. He just has to convince himself to reject it, because he depends on islam. It is his livelihood.
@@greyngreyer5 Majid did not even refute Ridvan's arguments against Islam well. He only repeated his own arguments, namely the beaten to death Kalam cosmological argument or the argument from contingency which still only points to a general creator and not particularly to Allah. The fact that Islam lead to social changes in Arabian society is nothing surprising considering that Christianity did the same in Europe and Buddhism did it in East Asia. He resorted to ad himinem attacks on Ridvan's qualifications and fluency in Arabic instead of addressing his actual arguments. Basically, Dr Majid's tactic in this debate was to dodge through weak arguments and ad hominems. Very disappointing!
@@greyngreyer5 Indeed, that's how it goes. I see incredibly smart people on all sides of religion, be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity who simply cling to the religion despite the lack of evidence for its truth. People like Dr Shabir Ally, Dr Mike Licona, Dr William Lane Craig - I think they all suffer from cognitive dissonance and religion for them is simply livelihood. It's unfortunate...
As a mathematician it feels so bad to see someone using a statement to prove the same statement: Islam is true because the quran is true and the quran says islam is true. The quran is true because it is the speech of Allah as stated in the quran I'm sorry to say but one must be straight stupid to not see the logical fallacy in this.
I grew up muslim, circling reasoning like this is drilled into our heads, even I would have not seen such blatant logical fallacies in my islamic phase. When you grow up muslim you do not understand how logic works because they make you abandon the true logic with their own “logic”
Anyone can win by throwing too many questions in a limited time debate. And AP said he doesn't want Abdulmajeed to speak for too long because it will be a "lecture", even tried to silence him several times during Q&A. He used the same technique vs Nader too. Cheap.
@@ZiIIous Majid is supposed to be a scholar/PHD of Islam and he still hasn't refuted any of the mistakes AP listed. "If there's one mistake in the Quran, then Islam is false" - AP.
purberty lol times are different k if yu go to mali where my parents are from then you will see people do the same thing marry when 9 6 or when ever purberty hits the man get married when they have enough to support the wife lol i dont understand why you guys are so comlicated who puts an age on marriage? lol
@@Acat-w8q its different to "marry" and "have sex" if that is not obvious, there have been countless marriages between people over 90 and children below 10, who never even met, but married due to politics and wealth. Muhammad specifically married because he wanted to have sex with a baby girl. According to the Hadiths, Aisha would play with her dolls in the presence of Muhammad because she was too young, nothing turned Muhammad on like a little child playing with dolls. I don't put an age on marriage, marry whenever you want, 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, who cares, what's important is when virginity is lost, a girl or a boy could absolutely DIE from forced intercourse before the age of 10. Do you know how many child marriages resulted in deaths? Just take a quick search
@@НиколайРоманов-л6ю listen lol abu bakr was the father of aisha and if muhammed forced himself onto aisha then how would he even look at abubakr the first man to accept islam abu bakr i hope we are on the same page if muhammed where to rape or force himself on aisha then how would he face his best friend? it makes no sense and do you not think abu bakr would be angry with him of corse he would but he was not because he allowed for the marriage and if you marry someone what do you do with them okay and plus even if abu bakr says yes you still have to ask the daughter and please give me that hadith where muhammed got turnedd on when little children played with dolls lol i would love to see it and dont bring fake and make sure you bring from which book it is from the number and the full hadith ok no fake it i will check and i want to see it if not then your whole arguement is false and you are a liar lol
In fairness, Dr Majid isn't dumb. That's unfair. I quite enjoyed this especially as he's no Ali Dawah, and is actually trying to debate . He's dogmatic, sure and you could say that religion has clouded his ability to reason but he's certainly not dumb.
@@waqasahmed939 I would seriously argue with you. He proof trough the debate that he either has a major but major problems to understand what he is ask about either he cannot at slimmest to defend discussed here fragments. I am christian , I listening to many similar debate on Bible, catholic church rules but even intelectually weak clerics was able to provide more relevant explanation. This what we hear here would be considered embarrassing
Well done AP, I’ve never watched such a one sided debate in my entire life, keep in mind Dr Abdul Majid is an authority and well learned man in Islamic studies and Arabic language who have so much qualifications. If Dr Abdul is the best islam can offer, then islam will die sooner then later.
@@Whoknows-z5o Yardalla.* But islam offers the best of the best, because they have spaceman muhamed, with advanced buraq technology. All we have is NASA, one heaven and internet, but they have the word of -muhamed- their god. *one yard is 36 inch.
Majid said that he has a PhD in Islamic Banking from a university that shut down 😂 His thesis is on Islamic banking (yeah no shit, and water is wet). This clown definitely bought his PhD and even if he didn’t he isn’t qualified for this debate. I’d be surprised if he even earned a BA.
I'm an ex muslim anti theist atheist from Afghanistan. Hundreds of thousands of young generation left islam in Afghanistan....that is happening in many muslim countries. Keep it up.
I am very glad to hear this. I am from Iran and the Islamic faith has been shrinking for a while now here. It’s heartwarming to know that it is the same in Afghanistan too! I wish the best for Afghanistan and its people. Afghanistan was one of the most resistant regions to the Islamic conquests. Had it not been for foreign interventions, I was sure that Afghanistan would have slowly rejected Islam. when I heard about the taliban taking over I was so sad about the situation. It’s good to know that ex muslims are present in Afghanistan!
@@Alborzhakimi7010 thank you for the nice comment. I don't see any hope for my country anymore. All is lost. I'm glad to see another fellow persian atheist here.
WAIT WAIT WAIT, you believe in satan and not in god???, how can you believe satan exists when god doesn’t???, you should know what satan says about you, he says that you are very dumb to follow him and worship him, he laughs at you, I’m telling you just so you know
Abdul just answer questions not asked! - a typical tactic when you don’t want to or can’t answer the question, this is also often seen in the political environment.
To all hypocrites.. Prophet Muhammad is not The source of Quran he is the massager of Almighty God to all mankind. The Word of God is in the Quran. The lower class of poeple who makes fun of others without knowledge, like he who throws stones at people and whose house is made of glass.
Dear AP, please continue the work you're doing. Millions of Hindus have your back and support you. You have lots of love and respect coming your way. Stay strong. Stay blessed.
He isn't doing this for Hindus, you can be just as prejudiced and violent as muslims. Your caste system is a disgrace, just because he opposes Islam does NOT mean he supports hinduism. You need to look in the mirror a bit before using others as tools to fight YOUR enemies. Religion in general is evil, ive seen the disgusting and murderous comments thousands of hondus leave under any posts that criticize them. A man said kali was sexy (your religion LITERALLY advocates for sex in all ways and sees it as divine) and he was given death threats, Rape threats to his mother, and much worse.
So basically Dr Majid's "argument" is Allah is true The Quran is true Muhammad is true I'm a Muslim you're not I'm educated in Islam you're not I speak Arabic and it only works in Arabic So there !
Abdul Majid, is a living contradiction. He said he doesn't know where anyone will go after they die but also said that unbelievers will go to hell since Allah sent prophets but they rejected them
This idea that a layman is qualified to accept Islam, but only a scholar is qualified to criticize it is, in itself, a layup of a refutation of Islam. The fact that even these “learned” Muslims don’t see that is incredible.
Let's say there's a restaurant in your area you don't know about it but you hear good and as well as bad thing about it but you wanna taste the food yourself and decide, so you go there and taste it and come out, but then ONLY based on your taste whether you hate it or like it you go around telling people they use x ingredients when you have zero knowledge about the ingredients, you didn't even try to research the ingredients or try to ask the chef. Would your action be right?
@@catmart i was explaining about the idea of op's comment in a way i thought he would understand. If you're talking about the video then he did answer apostates questions but I can't make you understand that because even if you go to 100 specialists ultimately you'll only accept what you want to hear
@@bharat201 of course no one should trust blindly that's why you must ask. But you must not spread false information just by hearing couple of words and thinking you know it all. And when you ask, ask at least 2 people who knows about the matter
I am half way through. Respect to Dr. Abdul Majid for at least being willing to engage in a public arena. Regrettably all that is shown here is that he is functioning in a different paradigm of intellectual investigation. AP is openly and repeatedly inviting a response to his atheism and how he perceives the unintelligibility of Islam. Dr. Majid is assembling a catalogue of Quranic references that that he feels are relevant that justify his own convictions without actually engaging with the subject.
Yeah, what Muslim apologists haven't really understood is that throwing Quran verses at disbelievers has about the same effect as holy water has on them
Islam is a case of Miss Piggy looking in the mirror and thinking she sees Jessica Rabbit looking back. The written Ann Lemott once wrote: If it turns out that God hates all the same people you hate, you can rest assured that you have created God in your own image. The logic of Lamott’s quote is self evident and irrefutable. Also self evident and irrefutable is the fact that Mohammed’s God hated, and not only hated, but hated the same people Mohammed hated. Mohammed made it all up and sustained the lie for 22 years, which also suggests he was a psychopath which the Islamic narrative also suggests by his behavior. Why? It gave him immense power, wealth and he had first choice among the enslaved women as his sex slaves. The final piece: his idea of heaven is defined as endless process of sex. Banality is the essence of evil.
**********⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️********** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ************are all prophets according to the Quran***********
Come on he won how can you argue with the qur'an is true becouse muslins believe it or how can man be here unless Allah made it so. 😂😂😂😂 CLASSIC ISLAMIC DEBATING
Allah wanted the “truth” to be revealed to humanity so much that he revealed it only in Arabic. And that “truth” is only “true” in Arabic. If it gets translated, it’s not true anymore.
No no don't pity the brother, You should pity yourself, looking at Muslims with lesser knowledge of Islam and lesser intellect battle some ex-Muslim who is a better talker and articulator , just so you can justify and feel better about leaving Islam. The real reason why you feel bad is that you know that the Muslim brother in the debate doesn't have the knowledge but was brave enough to defend what he believes in, And you feel bad because you know that if this "apostate prophet" debated a knowledgeable Muslim he would be destroyed within a few minutes. But he doesn't dare to debate a Muslim that is more knowledgeable in the fields of Islam, philosophy and science.
I can add, with lies civilization and society dies. imho dogmatism and closeness to critical thinking is still the worst aspect of religions. Also the problem of seeking constant validation trying to suppress data and objective reality, to the point of going political because diversity is seen as a threat. That is unacceptable. 6000 years of human history and we have half or the world not only fine to live as 2000 years ago, but forcing the rest with them.
@@seanavp that's your opinion, christians only use faith as a way to be saved but have mountains of evidence behind why we have that faith. Just because people discount the evidence doesn't make it any less true, that's just cognitive dissonance. I was a hard core Atheist before I found David Wood, and all I wanted to do was prove his "nonsense" evidence wrong but I couldn't.
@@johndreyer9730 Brother, I'm a Christian. Please don't take what I said and distort it. I agree with you, but was merely pointing out that all religions rely on articles of faith. Am I being disagreeable?
Yeah it was more of a PR stunt by Dr. Abdul and the way he was looking for appreciation and validation from his behind the scenes assistants is enough proof that his humility was just a facade.
As an agnostic, I am kinda disappointed about this debate. I was expecting that Dr. Abdul Majid would give some reasonable answers and straight to the point, instead of telling children stories.
Watch yt Dr. Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist, and how he, being a scientist, became a Christian just because he saw the evidence of God's creation of the earth in the book of Genesis. Fascinating.
Yea Muslim Skeptic is on a whole other level of insanity, defending and promoting things like apostasy laws, sex and marriage with children and jihad. Its strange that a guy who so desperately despises modern western values continues to live in a country like the US instead of moving to Islamic nations like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Afghanistan, in which he could live just as his great prophet did and marry some 6 year old children and stone the non believers and gays.
Abdul constantly answered questions which AP never asked, he was also answering questions with questions it just reeked of dishonesty. BTW AP won by a mile.
I’m a Muslim but I don’t understand why they do that either. Even though I’m Muslim, I like to think critically. At the moment, I’m questioning Hadith and it annoys me when Muslims say “according to the bible, a 3 year old got married” I don’t believe that’s true, I think many Muslims are taught to use that argument. Even if it was true, it doesn’t justify Muhammad marrying a 6 year old according to “sahih” narrations.
@@iqranadeem9837 dear Iqra, you point out an interesting phenomenon. There are many arguments muslims use against the Bible which they learn from other muslims without reading the whole chapters they are quoting. A very popular one is the verse with the sword. They often already have their learned interpretation which no christian or jew has on it nor had in past history. Just recently i discussed with a muslim on Quora about a specific topic, where he quoted something but refused to read the chapter which wouldn't cost him more than 10 minutes. When i wanted to know and understand islam, it wouldn't come to my mind to read christian books about islam. I went to mosque, i read the quran 7 times. To avoid that i interpret something wrong, i went to tafseer of alTabari or ibn kathir. I read a lot of ahadeeth. And i was careful to not interpret it in any way i want but as it is meant. Because to understand islam, i need to desire to understand islam as it describes itself. When i read christian sources on islam, then i don't learn about islam, but about the christian view on islam. That's a difference many don't understand. Most muslims i know usually learn about christianity by the islamic perspective instead of trying to understand the christian or jewish understanding. About the 3 year old girl in the Bible: I've read the Bible around 30 times. It's not there. It's a far fetched forced interpretation... God bless you my dear! الله يبارك فيك ولتكن نعمة الله معك
@@christophsurbeck2814 thank you for telling me your experience 😊 it’s okay to question and use our critical thinking skills and then decide what our beliefs are. I do have faith but there are some parts of Islam that I’m not sure of and I don’t receive adequate answers to those questions
@Sabbath D'inverno the Quran does teach a lot about Muhammad and his life, more than people expect, since his name is only mentioned 4 times. His character differs between the Quran and Hadith. I don’t like it when muslims say things like “it was okay that he married a six year old according to hadith because it was a completely different time period and area” because the Quran says that he’s a role model. He’s a role model for Muslims of all time periods, not just the group of Arabs in the 7th century
Very good comparison Translation it self is enough I am MA History and M Phil 67 years now I listen from AP and learn Though I a Hindu I got byheart 11 surah for Namaj Read Quran in Though and English(I am MA English pgdte Chiefland MEd) I appreciate Ap- same doubts I had Ap s vedios superb transparent Dr AM is good but his argument He seems to have from my state Ap ie Andhra pradesh-his language ie English Not North Indian.. AP or Rijwaan showed many points in his vefioes-- unique Biblical debates too divert talking about Hebrew or Greek Ap s.vedioes exposes many things in religions which makes us laugh (.I like Dr A M - Indian Englidh- south- not TN-- like Andhra But he or xyz of all religions Hindu Christianity Islam can not justify Irrational. Unscientific Ridiculous absurd ( religions diametrically opposite to each other- all can not be true Hindu Bhagvadgita 4---11- all paths will be answered) Beloved Dr AM did not answer many of the objections of beloved AP- really prophet of Reason Prince of .questioning Enchanting English Benign& beautiful countenance Like Indian Hero I like both of them Dr AM is with noor like his son like one Rizwan But parallel lines do not meet Arguments language Grammer trickish ways do not make our earth flat Hadeeth came later Quran itself is exposed Ap has shown the ferocity in Islam Other religions too have it to some degree Conditioned minds are programmed to talk in despicable way Ap prefers C j H B to Islam Hinduism is fascinating Buddhism mesmerizing Confucius + x has 8nner peace Christianity is lovable Judaism is also x But.Islam according to Ap& many can not be accommodated Sanskrit scholars too talk like Dr A M 4 different meanings Para pasyaanti etc Brother AM is also nice man Moderator James King is follower of benign Jesus pbuh? Is also great. I do 1oo Rakyat and more than that 200 too But tryh is needed I read all religions and denominations But truth is wanted Futile to talk with fundamentalists of.all religions Mansur Hallaj was killed for Anal haq or belief of rebirth Wives can not be hit on face-- Brother A M could be a good Muslim according to Islamic standards but need not correct according to other rrligions or truth--- science rationalism etc All is well that ends well I like this vedio though some unpalatable questions etc are there God Almighty bless every body .
I really thought Dr Majid was gonna be up for this and I was excited to see a good debate. But after that opening I’m finding it difficult to carry on watching.
CP can barely speak English. He just has an accent that makes his fans think he is an expert in Arabic but he mispronounces words a lot and never corrects himself.
@jazzymiles miles CP will end Dr Zakir career and that is why even Dr Shabir Ally politely turned down an offer to debate CP, saying, " He plays in a higher leaque."
What a bummer. As a muslim almost all apologists make me bang my head repeatedly against the wall when they answer non muslims by quoting Quran and Hadith, it is like asserting I am the best because my mother said so
@@Cheximus I belong to the community by default. I ll always stay proudly in the camp and defend it from cultural and social point of view, but never from theological point or that divisive "us vs them" mentality.
@@irfangullbhat fair enough. So you don't believe in it from a theological perspective? You just don't want to be disowned by your family and friends. I get that.
@@Cheximus More than anything you don't want to rob your ageing parents off their sprituality. If we try and convince elderly muslims that all the endeavour they have been putting all their life actually has no significance...it is so so wrong, it is heartbreaking.
@@irfangullbhat I, for one, appreciate and respect your position..... I wish more individuals like you existed in this polarized, and often frustrating world!
Allah is true because the Quran says so. I didn't expect this kind'a argument from an educated person. Aisha was a woman playing with dolls. The debate didn't materialize simply because one of them is arguing and the other one preaching.
Yes, he really caught us all off-guard there! We should have realized that Allah is true because it's right there in the Quran. And the Quran is true because it is the word of Allah! It's so obvious, because the world is a circle, so circular reasoning is based on reality!
What’s always striking is that Muslim apologists make the arguments against Islam vague or complex! If something remains vague, you can't object it! If something is made complex, the educated Muslim apologist makes himself the only person in the discussion empowered to explain things and puts the opposing party in the position of someone who misunderstands and is ignorant! In this way the Muslim apologist has the control and the upper hand in the discussion. Dr. Masjid seems like a nice and sincere man. However, he mainly gave his personal rosy view on Islam but hardly got into a debate!
Dr Abdool Majid says he's got Six cats, Five daughters, Four wives. ...and a partridge in a pear tree. Taqiya at its best. The Wisdom of Islam belongs in a slapstick comedy. This could be funny if it wasn't so true.
How? When Majid could not debate even with a lay person; does Muslims realise that they can only quote the quran: quoting the quran does not make a debate; if he couldn't answer simple straightforward questions and belittling a person who does not know Arabic and therefore the quran: : just goes to show that majority of Muslims does not understand the quran😅😅😅
Dr. Abdul Majid seems like a genuinely good guy. I hope he wakes up to the truth that Islam is false, rather than continue to propagate this evil cult.
He's on right way don't you know these people knows bible more than you and here you telling them to wake up 🤣🤣 if your bible is true come educate from us we can correct you on what way it's true. How can you say if you're not stupid Jesus is God and he can do everything but your God couldn't even save himself from death for three day and got killed by human what kind of God is this? How dare you let down my Jesus Prophet PBUH like that.
First logical fallacy at 17:08 - Appeal to Ignorance: How were we created? We don't know. Therefore Allah. Second logical fallacy at 18:20 - False/Faulty analogy or false eqivalence: Can a mother create herself? No. Hence the Universe can't create itself. Therefore Allah. Third logical fallacy at 19:04 - Non sequitur or Causal Reductionism: You cannot have two creators because if you did you would have chaos (there was no chaos in Olympus). Fourth logical fallacy at 21:46 - Poisoning the Well: All the books are inferior to the Quran therefore the Quran is correct. Fifth logical fallacy at 22:35 - Argumentum ad populum or Red Herring: Even the non believers accept Mohammed's greatness hence Mohammed was great (which deflects from the relevant question of whether he was a prophet of the truth). Sixth logical fallacy at 32.26 - Argument to Authority or Appeal to Accomplishment or Poisoning the Well: AP is not qualified to argue therefore his questions are invalid. Seventh logical fallacy at 33:17 - False dichotomy: If Islam doesn't hold the truth then what does? If nothing else holds the truth then Islam must be the truth. I also find it quite ridiculous that Dr Majid states that you must know Arabic to understand the Quran. Hence if you don't know Arabic you better forget about converting to Islam as you have no chance of understanding the book of truth. It also begs the question - if the Quran can't be translated, why translate it? From around 40:00 it starts to descend into disorder and it becomes personal. At 60:00 Dr Majid states that we don't have free will (Allah decrees everything) but because you don't know what that decree is you bear the responsibility of your choices. This is an absurd argument. You either have free will and can choose or everything has been decreed (predestined) before your birth. If I do not have the ability to choose why do a bear responsibility of my choices? Dr Majid either doesn't understand the question, has misinterpreted the word "decree" or he is quibbling. Eighth logical fallacy at 1:17:15 (I've skipped many in between but this one is a pearler which all theists use) - ad baculum and appeal to fear: if you don't believe me you will perish in hell. At 1:28:15 Question: "Dr Majid do you think your arguments are circular?" "I'm not here to convince anybody... [but let me answer the previous question on incest which was directed at AP]". Hilarious. By the way, I think AP could have done better with the question on incest (which is an appeal to emotion fallacy - the Romans for example didn't have any problem with it) by asking whether pedophilia is equally reprehensible. Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses. At 1:30:54: Question to Dr Majid - Answer: Christians believe in one God, Hindus, Jews believe in one God etc but what about the 2 billion (a quarter of the wold's population) East Asians, Indigenous peoples of North and South America & Australia & Africa? Let's just sweep them under the carpet. Next time a Muslim asks a Christian about a contradiction in the Bible the Christian should say, you can't understand because you're not a Christian scholar and you don't speak Koine Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic. This argument, which was extensively used by Dr Majid, contradicts his argument. Dr Majid claims that the Bible and Torah are inferior books to the Quran. How would he know if he hasn't read these books in their original language?
Yes, Yes, but their best argument in favour of islam is sharia, which will execute anyone who disagrees with it. It seems to work very well in cult majority countries that implement sharia as state law.
As an ex muslin I’m familiar to his reasoning their main saying to order Muslim if they question them is you have to believe in your heart and don’t let this questions entering your mind because it shows that the sheitan (devil) is trying to mislead you
@@cheahbianheng2422 sad to announce to you that if you believe in any sort of god you are not allowed to criticise islam in any way shape of form lol all religions are as stupid as one another.
@Black Panther You seem like an impartial scientist; please keep going straight following the sign "deluded zealots", you will find a door with the word "truth" written on it, I must warn you, you can't open it, and please don't try to pretend, the ones who claim to have done it become very violent if you try to call them out on it. Once you are tired of trying, please go back to where you are coming from and rejoin the immense space named "humanity", it's not that bad if you think about it. Don't forget to get your portfolio on "humility and peaceful living amongst brethren" on your way there.
@@georgehollingsworth2428 what all he said , he has quoted from the Qur'an and there are many Muslim viewers watching, they would recognise any mistake, but he said all What even scholars would agree with from quoting the verses of *Qura'n and Hadith*
AP - well reasoned argument. Imam - Rambling nonsense. His rambling was cringe making. And this guy is at the top of his game. He didn’t appear to understand the questions.
True it's like he was just doing dawah not debate. Too much extra filter fluff and waste alot of time. They never change : like a used car salesman trying sell you a lemon 🍋
What God creates a book for the whole world that can only be read in 1 language. How can Islam say that the Quran can only be read in Arabic when the Quran was first written in Quresh and the Arabic that they use today with all the diacritical markings (vowels) didn't come to the 8th century.
Imagine if God sent a 💿 disc 1000s of years ago instead of a book and the people didn't know what to do with it so they preserved it and protected it til someone invented a computer that was able to read it. And inside this disc contained stuff like i am god, do good, and you'll be rewarded etc. And this disc couldn't be formatted.
AP what a great presentation . Well organised. Very well guided and stated. Very clear information and great examples to support the information delivered . Brilliant research. Well presented evidence based referencing .
Credentials are meaningless. Take Christian Prince, an Arab with a masters in sharia law, complete understanding of the Quran and hadith and can debunk Islam with one opening sentence .
Yeah, for sure. He is a professor or something (scholar at least) & working with an organisation (that's how this ppl get promoted & put forth in the public eye). And those peps are probably 2 students, or his assistant & a camera man. (something like that)
AP has proven Islam as false by showing the many mistakes in the Quran. All it takes is one mistake in the supposed "perfect" Quran to prove it's false. You did a great job, AP.
@@islamaboyy588 you can't keep saying it's the truth without engaging in the debate. That's like if someone asked me how planes fly, and my response was, "they just fly." Know what you believe, study for yourself.
*Dr. Abdul's arguments in the beginning about islam being true:* Islam is true because Allah is only one god and if there were many gods they would fight each other, it would be chaos... It's just like in boxing: you can have only one winner, therefore Allah is only god and islam is true. - This is even insulting for a brain of a 14 year old.
I think he did loads better than Mo Hijab, when it comes to proper conduct & sincerity in engaging the opponent's points *honestly.* Also, Mojab makes a whole pretentious case of things unrelated to the topic & tries to veer the discussion away in a completely new direction. 🤦♀️ (Don't even get me started on Haqiqacju and his strawmans - that guy literally makes me wanna punch him) So, idk - I think Dr Abdul Majid did a half-decent job, considering he's defending Islam... and he's quite funny. 🤷♀️
A. P. This is not a debate. You tell facts from his perfect book that CLEARLY is not. Many inaccurate made up nonsense is blown off as don't listen to him listen to me with zero facts or evidence to the contrary. His entire argument is your not qualified... When he attacks you personally you won.
i agree if it was his true nature, the question is how a believer says i have respect to all human being whatever he thinks, but his god have no respect for his creature and promise them hell in earth and in the 'afterlife'. How can a muslim believer be better and have better values than his god? it's not it's just taqya (hypocrisy)
All due respect to all involved: Titles and tiaras are no longer relevant. Truth is the only relevance. I have no more clarification on the truth of Islam than before I listened to the debate. I share AP’s disappointment. “Who are you to ask this question?” Is not an answer to a question. 🙁
Allah is true because its clearly stated in quran. Quran also stated that sperm comes from the ribs and sun orbits the earth and in the night sun goes to god and come back. These guys brains are paralized. You can see it that they dont have personal opinions. They say "we do because its what muslims do". What a waste of human potential.
The only honest Muslim apologist I have seen so far is Daniel Haqiqatjou. That dude says exactly exactly what the Quran and Hadiths say without deceptively sugar-coating the Quran verses nor engaging in mental gymnastic to reinterpret the Quran and Hadiths to fit today's moral standards.
@@Ras_Spinoza Yeah, from *that* pov. But in order to do that, he then needs to engage in *extremely strawmanned* justifications for them - which are quite frankly absurd (maybe even dishonest), disturbing & quite exasperating... tbh. So, I think I preferred Dr AM in his style here, cause at least he was more civilised & (at some point) willing to engage more *honestly* with the opponent's points...
🤦🏼♂️ I couldn't believe Majid's opening argument (15:00 ): Islam is true, based on: 1. Allah is true. 2. The Quran is true. 3. Mohammed is true. "That is all based on the Quran." OK, then your argument is circular. Goodbye. 👋🏻 He also Rizvan proved Islam is false (14:46). I agree. 🤨 I think you could have stopped there, AP. His other "arguments": - Riz doesn't speak Arabic, but then he contradicts himself by asking the question "What would be the point of writing a book in Chinese if no-one could understand. Not withstanding, there are over 1bn Chinese speakers, he completely misses how this weakens his own argument; what would be the point of sending a divine message in a language that only 3% of the world's population speak?"
Actually I speak Arabic and there's not really much of a difference. If anything I feel that texts in English are nicer than the original Arabic text lol
Exactly, he makes it look like the Quran or Islamic literature is meant for learned Arabic speakers. To argue that this also is the universal message for all mankind is ridiulous, he just dimmed Ridvan unqualified to understand Islamic literature since he has no Arabic education, thats literally a third of the world or more. We are not qualified to believe in Allah period!! If I can't afford a masters in Arabic I can't possibly afford following Allah. 🙄
First of All it’s English translation is not correct what Allah wants to convey 1- Allah has given human beings subconscious mind to think what is right and what is wrong if you choose to believe that the idol is your god then it’s okay you have limited your god in an idol 2. He also says if you don’t follow his commandments I will surely put into the hell to disbeliever 3 He also said that to each and every human beings he will show his sign in the horizon to the disbelievers until they come to the truth before they die 🥴🥴🥴Bro you are pointing out Allah threat only look to the both side since we are human being so we need a threat to be on the right path for an example when u were 7 years your mother might be giving you some threat of not doing any bad things otherwise I will punish you that does not means that your mother don’t love you 🌝Have debate with me If you have guts 🥴🥴🥴
@@ShopZx. 1. You haven't really made strong points in favor of Islam. 2. You haven't addressed his one single point at all. You wanna debate? Let's go!!!
@@BlackZar84 Bit of a necro-post but I agree with you. It's circular and founded in nothing. At least for Jews and Christians the Torah, Gospels, and Bible in general are accounts written by people about God on the basis they have the ability to because they have faith. It's not some mystical book provided by Allah that you have no clue where came from except that it's a book from Allah because it says so.
Dr. Abdul is polite... But in the first half of the discussion he didn't understand the question, and in the second half his tribal thinking became so obvious.. (the question had been whether it's good when authorities persecute disbelievers, not whether he'd offer AP hospitality.....)
Dear Rizwan, I am Mohammed ajhas ( ex - Muslim) happy that I left Islam and found the true God through Bible. This Islamic scholar just defamed the Islamic scholars and wasted the whole time in this video. Happy for you Rizwan 😊
The reason this is an impossible argument is simply because allah has not given us sufficient evidence... So we all need to say.... Please do whatever prayer you wish to get your god to type "Hi" on my keyboard (without the quotes) to show the world your god is not a fantasy. Thank You. Then no magical arguments.. yet they can still keep making arguments of ignorance as believers are not knowers yet they think they are. This is the fact they wrestle with.
After listening Abdul's this splendid argument "if Allah doesn't exist, then who created you?", I became a muslim and I'm doing namaz 5 times a day now 🤣🤣🤣
Not a Muslim, just wondering, what do you actually think created life? What was the spark the created life. Or more specifically, beyond life (kinda) what created the consciousness within us? I think one or two ideas, One: A completely religious way of thinking. Something, somehow, sparked life on this specific planet.. or sparked consciousness, and we cannot find any other thing remotely like it in the universe. Two: life accures naturally. Like on point one, we have yet to ever find any life anywhere we look. Maybe we will find it, but I doubt it. Why are we the only conscious beings?
@@ShalaJC its very simple tbh. Evolution of life and mutation caused it. It starts with water and water based beings then slowly transformed into what we are as of today. And it didn't happen in a day earth is billions years old.
@@ShalaJCYou can ask all sorts of questions, e.g. "Is there life on other planets?" And the ONLY honest answer is option 3: "I don't know". One can elaborate that with "I don't really know, but we can make educated estimations based on things we've discovered. We will continue to experiment and discover to improve our understanding of the universe." With option 3 one has to make peace with the reality. That all of us who have ever lived to date will never know these answers, and it is time for humanity to grow up from this infantile neediness to make up elaborate creation myths. Wondering why we are the only ones who are conscious presumes there aren't conscious civilizations who a) are too far away b) have already lived and died off c) have yet to be born long after we are gone. The universe is HUGE and we just don't have the interstellar highways yet.
It means Indonesians, Pakistanis , Bangladeshis , Turkish AnD many more aren't true Muslims because they don't speak Arabic well only allahu alqaraf 🤦🤣
Dr Abdul: circular reasoning, moving the goal post and appeal to authority fallacies. Very weak weak arguments. Good to see AP thriving. Quite the titan in the atheist community. Keep up the good work AP. Nice to have a atheist who deals with the Islam community as there's not enough of them
Unbelievable that the Muslims can escape from the real argument to try to confuse the people even though the debate was from the Quran. I really I don’t understand how the Imams can convince the Christians to convert to Islam if the Quran translation in Arabic is different from the an English.
WHO ARE WE? You don't know Arabic, so you can not criticize Islam and the Quran. We don't know ancient Hebrew and Greek, but we do criticize the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism.
This is the first debate ever on the question: Is Islam True?
Please share your thoughts and comments!
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Apostate Prophet Opening Statement
00:12:50 Dr Abdul Majid Opening Statement
00:25:30 Apostate Prophet Rebuttal
00:31:46 Dr Abdul Majid Rebuttal
00:38:00 Open Discussion: Arabic Necessary? Who is Qualified?
00:49:55 Predestination vs. Free Will
01:21:00 Muhammad's Failed Prophecy
Questions & Answers
01:25:05 Majid: Does Allah Know Human Experience?
01:26:23 AP: Is Safe Incest Wrong?
01:28:10 Majid: Are your Arguments Circular Reasoning?
01:29:35 AP: Is Slavery Historically Justifiable?
01:30:50 Majid: Why Argue for General Theism?
01:32:35 AP: Are Christianity & Judaism Beautiful?
01:33:44 Majid: Quran Contradiction?
01:37:35 Majid: What Should Happen to Apostates?
01:41:46 Majid: Is Hell Literal or Metaphorical?
01:42:22 Majid: Muhammad Marrying Adopted Son's Wife
01:43:47 AP: Why do Christians Support an Atheist?
01:44:55 Majid: Is the Quran Necessary?
01:47:17 Majid: Should Hijab be Compulsory?
01:49:32 Majid: Did You Answer AP's Questions?
01:51:35 Majid: Why Do We Need Arabic?
01:54:12 Majid: Muhammad's Child Marriage?
01:57:25 Majid: Your Education
01:58:56 Majid: Did You Address Arguments?
01:59:38 Majid: Explanations to the Big Bang
02:00:40 Majid: Why Do You Greet an Apostate?
02:02:08 AP & Majid: Child Marriage Justified?
02:04:22 Majid: Why Are Animals Killed?
02:06:22 AP & Majid: Virgins in Heaven
02:08:15 Majid: Does Morality Change?
02:10:10 Majid: Forbidding Churches & Synagogues
02:11:55 Majid: Where is Sperm Located?
02:12:39 Majid: Predestination & Free Will?
02:13:49 AP: Are You Open Minded?
02:14:30 Majid: Is Child Marriage a Problem?
02:15:55 Majid: Husband-Beating
02:19:50 Majid: 1. Child Marriage 2. Jinns in Hell
02:22:35 AP: How Do You Explain Muhammad's Miracles?
02:25:26 Majid: Disbelief + My Cat
02:27:04 Majid: Is Allah a Deceiver? + Ex-Muslim Stereotype
02:30:00 Majid: Muhammad Tongue-Kissing Grandson
02:31:10 Majid: Does Islam Allow Lying?
I was extremely disappointed, I was expecting a challenge..
Thanks for your insight on this barbaric religion! I like your rebuttals, however I do not understand your complete points on Islam because I’m an atheist that left Christianity and I have more of a bone to pick with it.
@The Hangman black stone smoocher 🤢.
@The Hangman your mom.
@SHIVAJI RAJE L
I find it very funny that when a Muslim wants to convert you to Islam, speaking and understanding Arabic isn’t really necessary but if you start to question Islam, you cannot because you do not speak or understand the Arabic language.🤣🤣🤣
Thats how you get more people converted and have them fear for their lives or make them leave their families as a consequence of leaving Islam.
FACTS
I'm telling you
Just like they say you can not criticize the Quran if you can not read Arabic. But they can criticize the Bible without being able to read Biblical Greek or Hebrew.
😂😭😂😭😂😭
Dr Abduls argument in short:
"I am right because I am right"
"Allah is Allah"
"Quran is Quran"
"You are wrong because you are wrong"
abdul: trust me bro
LMAO
😂😂😂😂
What more can he do? Defend the wacky book written by ancient lunatic peasants?
Islamic logic:
"Allah" is God
Who said that?
Mohammed
Who's Mohammed ?
A prophet
Who said he's prophet ?
Quran
Who created Quran ?
Mohammed
Bottom line: It is what it is, coz some random Arab dude said so ! Deal with it..🤷🏻♂️
I want to thank Dr. Abdul Majid for helping muslims leave islam for good. You are a hero
Are you Christian?
@@CriticalThinkerTV no
🤣😂😂😂
ha ha..
Kevin Stone
You must have been living under a rock.
The opposite is true Christianity is losing ground to Islam thousands are converting to Islam on a daily basis.
"You don't understand it, I don't understand it, nobody can understand it." - Islam according to Abdul Majid
Islam only means submit in Arabic
@@ashwayn Submitting under threat of violence is called suffering under abuse and terror.
The quran has no redeeming qualities. Least of all in terms of morality.
"Therefore just believe & have faith" 😂🤣😂🤣
@@MrYelly simply put, BULLYING
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I am an Ex-Muslim antitheist from Pakistan. I left this evil 7th century cult in 2016. One of the best decisions of my life ..
im from inidia...more power to you...you made the right choice
@@rohanghosh9475 thanks
@@ibtisamabdi4951 thats good to know
I’m Somali and I left it about a month ago, also one of the best decisions of my life.
@@Ammeo and now be ready to go to hell fire for eternity
Good luck with that
Dr. Abdul Majid is INCREDIBLY resistant to understanding points. I have seen this in SO MANY Muslims. No ideology numbs the mind like Islam.
😂😂😂 I know right. Abdulism😘😂😂
@@enowmessi2844 😂😂
@@enowmessi2844 chronic case of abdulism, I agree👍🏼😜😂
Logical reasoning among abdools is lacking bigtime.
@420 This is the way 😂😂😂 I know right
So, here's the problem, if AP wasn't 'qualified' then why has Abdul Majid agreed to the debate in the first place?
cuz ap is the dirty fitna infidel for them ^^
Getting a bit bored...u know.
(jk 🤭)
**********⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️**********
Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
************are all prophets according to the Quran***********
To tell AP he's unqualified throughout the whole debate maybe?
@@dyawr They had us in the first half
I will never understand why they will continually speak and recite quotes in Arabic when their goal here is to adress a western audience.
this is how they fake their authority, the point is not to make you understand, but to show that i know more than you
Because it would be actually hilarious if they said it in English/Spanish/French..
@@frantiseknovotny2674 lmao that’s so true
Because it sounds nice(in their thoughts)😂😂
Shiek Running ibn fast
My friend said that he left Islam when he read "Kill the infidels." He said that a True God would NEVER tell him to kill anyone.
Give your friend my congratulations. The more you read of their texts, the worse it gets.
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God is violent in Old Testament too
@@thinker3119
Yes but god is kind and forgiving in the New Testament! Islam has too many contradictory statement!!
@za za
I follow the perfect example which is Jesus Christ...
This debate is another proof that having a PhD does not necessary mean having intelligence nor intellect.
PhD in religious studies. PhD in a relevant topic makes sense.
@@therandomnomad435 i think i shud have said "religion can sometimes mess up the mind of a perfectly smart person, some more than the others".
Intellect and intelligence are two different things. Having a PhD does not mean you have intelligence.
Intelligence comes with faith. The Dr. is trying 30 minutes to explain if you violently debunk Harvard Medical school and you don’t even know English and have no background in medicine, that’s just miracle of ridiculousness. Rezvan doesn’t get it !!!!!!!!! Fans applaud most one sided debate !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@nimagougol8781 Intelligence is inherited. Either you have intelligence by birth or you don't. That's why you see some children as more intelligent than others when you are in school.
This is what happened when an Abdul gets a Dr certification from Madrasa.
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I think Dr Majid is one of those unfortunate people who have found themselves in a religion and have never bothered to examine it's claims or understand it enough to debate it. He looks like a good,honest, well meaning muslim.
AP thanks for coming out and pointing out things that people desperately want to explain away. Its time to face the ugly truth.
he thinks its ok for 9 year old girls to get married so good
At this point, i really believe you guys really really don’t have a thing in your head, called brain.
That doctor has some of the worst arguments AP has ever heard, its like talking to an 8 year old
Or a 9 year-old (girl/woman)
I have the same conclusion
Yep. It's true because this book says it is and that's true because it says it is.....
This ABDUK is a big LIAR just like the arab prophet the pedophile
Islamic Business Major Doctor is a credential? Lol
Well, the Dr was superb at circular arguments and obfuscation.
At least he was polite, unlike the majority of his peers.
Obfuscation. That's a new one for me. I'm gonna look it up!
@@jvharbin8337 exactly what I thought. 😂🤣
Lemme find my notepad 🖊️
Doesn't matter if apus keeps barking 😂th-cam.com/video/-But7VUveAc/w-d-xo.html
@@ggvgj2079 oh yeah.. stay away troll.. 😂😂
Is Islam true?
Dr. Abdul Majid: Yes, because Muhammad said so.
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What if you know it was a lie, because the life of prophet was all messed up with sins like, had sucidal tendency, sex with slaves, orders killing etc. When ever there was a problem the verse use to come out
@@ggvgj2079
Statistics can be wrong
@@ggvgj2079 at the time you dont count shia as muslims lol
@@loopydoopi Muslims claim that everyone is born a Muslim and doesn't convert to Islam, they revert. That means Islam is the largest apostatized religion in the world.
Dr. Abdul is honestly a shining star. If he continues like this he will be listed 1st influential man out of 100 who led people out of Islam. 😃😃😃😃😃
It still takes a lot of willpower and comfort to leave the religion even you are proven it's false though. Abdul Majid, I'm sure, in his rational mind has no argument against anything AP brought. He just has to convince himself to reject it, because he depends on islam. It is his livelihood.
@@greyngreyer5 Majid did not even refute Ridvan's arguments against Islam well. He only repeated his own arguments, namely the beaten to death Kalam cosmological argument or the argument from contingency which still only points to a general creator and not particularly to Allah. The fact that Islam lead to social changes in Arabian society is nothing surprising considering that Christianity did the same in Europe and Buddhism did it in East Asia. He resorted to ad himinem attacks on Ridvan's qualifications and fluency in Arabic instead of addressing his actual arguments. Basically, Dr Majid's tactic in this debate was to dodge through weak arguments and ad hominems. Very disappointing!
@@Nexus-jg7ev That's not what I was discussing. I said he probably knws the truth but can't back out at this point.
@@greyngreyer5 Indeed, that's how it goes. I see incredibly smart people on all sides of religion, be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity who simply cling to the religion despite the lack of evidence for its truth. People like Dr Shabir Ally, Dr Mike Licona, Dr William Lane Craig - I think they all suffer from cognitive dissonance and religion for them is simply livelihood. It's unfortunate...
Number one is Daniel Pikachu.
The more i listen to that doc, the more im convinced that he has no answers. He simply cannot defend his book and religion.
🤣🤣🤣
These stupid arguments has been debunked already
Dr.Abdul Majid should debate with Christian Prince
@@isaacmoss9950 allah himself dare not!
In Islam defending with emotional blackmail and violence are the recommended tools of choice.
Logic breaks down very fast.
He must be a disciple of Dr. Naik.
As a mathematician it feels so bad to see someone using a statement to prove the same statement:
Islam is true because the quran is true and the quran says islam is true.
The quran is true because it is the speech of Allah as stated in the quran
I'm sorry to say but one must be straight stupid to not see the logical fallacy in this.
They don't care for your logic. They want to do polygamy
You must never put faith and logic in the same statement
You don't have to be a mathematician. I'm a high school drop out and that shit hurt my brain. I honestly think I got dumber listening to him.
@@loverofhumanity …the stupidity of islam advanced by scholars like this waffling Dr. and many others.
I grew up muslim, circling reasoning like this is drilled into our heads, even I would have not seen such blatant logical fallacies in my islamic phase. When you grow up muslim you do not understand how logic works because they make you abandon the true logic with their own “logic”
AP won the debate by his opening statement on the mistakes in the Quran.
Anyone can win by throwing too many questions in a limited time debate. And AP said he doesn't want Abdulmajeed to speak for too long because it will be a "lecture", even tried to silence him several times during Q&A. He used the same technique vs Nader too. Cheap.
@@ZiIIous Majid is supposed to be a scholar/PHD of Islam and he still hasn't refuted any of the mistakes AP listed. "If there's one mistake in the Quran, then Islam is false" - AP.
@@ZiIIous You don't seem to be able to take the truth. That is cheap.
@@ZiIIous What is cheap is Dr. Abdul caving all the time and not really answering anything. #cat&mouse game - CHEAP.
@@ZiIIous My friend said that he left Islam when he read "Kill the infidels." He said that a True God would NEVER tell him to kill anyone.
"Aisha was 6 years old"
"How do you know if she was a small child or a woman?"
What 😂
purberty lol times are different k if yu go to mali where my parents are from then you will see people do the same thing marry when 9 6 or when ever purberty hits the man get married when they have enough to support the wife lol i dont understand why you guys are so comlicated who puts an age on marriage? lol
@@Acat-w8q its different to "marry" and "have sex" if that is not obvious, there have been countless marriages between people over 90 and children below 10, who never even met, but married due to politics and wealth. Muhammad specifically married because he wanted to have sex with a baby girl. According to the Hadiths, Aisha would play with her dolls in the presence of Muhammad because she was too young, nothing turned Muhammad on like a little child playing with dolls.
I don't put an age on marriage, marry whenever you want, 1, 10, 20, 50, 100, who cares, what's important is when virginity is lost, a girl or a boy could absolutely DIE from forced intercourse before the age of 10. Do you know how many child marriages resulted in deaths? Just take a quick search
@@НиколайРоманов-л6ю listen lol abu bakr was the father of aisha and if muhammed forced himself onto aisha then how would he even look at abubakr the first man to accept islam abu bakr i hope we are on the same page if muhammed where to rape or force himself on aisha then how would he face his best friend? it makes no sense and do you not think abu bakr would be angry with him of corse he would but he was not because he allowed for the marriage and if you marry someone what do you do with them okay and plus even if abu bakr says yes you still have to ask the daughter and please give me that hadith where muhammed got turnedd on when little children played with dolls lol i would love to see it and dont bring fake and make sure you bring from which book it is from the number and the full hadith ok no fake it i will check and i want to see it if not then your whole arguement is false and you are a liar lol
@@Acat-w8qFound pedobear
@@Acat-w8qthe worlds greatest living expert on Islam Muhammad Hijab said there is no age of consent in the Quran.
Islam is true because Muhammad said so and Muhammad was a prophet because Muhammad said so
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😭
ive actually had a convo with a muslim where he said EXACTLY THIS. except replace muhammed with allah and the quran.
This Is what muslims believe😂😂😂
Islam is True because it is the religion of the Creator Allah
“Debating a smart person is hard, Debating a Dumb person is Impossible”
-Someone said it I forgot who.
Bill Murry! comedian i think
In fairness, Dr Majid isn't dumb. That's unfair. I quite enjoyed this especially as he's no Ali Dawah, and is actually trying to debate . He's dogmatic, sure and you could say that religion has clouded his ability to reason but he's certainly not dumb.
@@waqasahmed939 I would seriously argue with you. He proof trough the debate that he either has a major but major problems to understand what he is ask about either he cannot at slimmest to defend discussed here fragments.
I am christian , I listening to many similar debate on Bible, catholic church rules but even intelectually weak clerics was able to provide more relevant explanation. This what we hear here would be considered embarrassing
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in tunisia we say debating with a dumb make your life shorter :D
Well done AP, I’ve never watched such a one sided debate in my entire life, keep in mind Dr Abdul Majid is an authority and well learned man in Islamic studies and Arabic language who have so much qualifications. If Dr Abdul is the best islam can offer, then islam will die sooner then later.
Inshallah!! 👏👏
@@Whoknows-z5o Yardalla.*
But islam offers the best of the best, because they have spaceman muhamed, with advanced buraq technology. All we have is NASA, one heaven and internet, but they have the word of -muhamed- their god.
*one yard is 36 inch.
Xtianity dying on progress
Inshallah 💅
Majid said that he has a PhD in Islamic Banking from a university that shut down 😂 His thesis is on Islamic banking (yeah no shit, and water is wet). This clown definitely bought his PhD and even if he didn’t he isn’t qualified for this debate. I’d be surprised if he even earned a BA.
I'm an ex muslim anti theist atheist from Afghanistan.
Hundreds of thousands of young generation left islam in Afghanistan....that is happening in many muslim countries. Keep it up.
I am very glad to hear this. I am from Iran and the Islamic faith has been shrinking for a while now here. It’s heartwarming to know that it is the same in Afghanistan too! I wish the best for Afghanistan and its people.
Afghanistan was one of the most resistant regions to the Islamic conquests. Had it not been for foreign interventions, I was sure that Afghanistan would have slowly rejected Islam. when I heard about the taliban taking over I was so sad about the situation. It’s good to know that ex muslims are present in Afghanistan!
@@Alborzhakimi7010 thank you for the nice comment. I don't see any hope for my country anymore. All is lost.
I'm glad to see another fellow persian atheist here.
@@Alborzhakimi7010Seriously guys?
Very good, I will definitely tell your parents about you already falling before the dajjal came
WAIT WAIT WAIT, you believe in satan and not in god???, how can you believe satan exists when god doesn’t???, you should know what satan says about you, he says that you are very dumb to follow him and worship him, he laughs at you, I’m telling you just so you know
Abdul just answer questions not asked!
- a typical tactic when you don’t want to or can’t answer the question, this is also often seen in the political environment.
That's because he can't answer the questions asked.....
3+A=B just answer the question not asked,,,what is B?
Abdul, why not debate with Christian prince
@@isaacmoss9950 Abdul why not leave Islam!
@@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 B = A-3, but seriously the questions he was asked DID have answers. He just didn't want to go there.
Even sunflower has more knowledge than Muhammad about the sun.
lol good one
😂😊
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To all hypocrites.. Prophet Muhammad is not The source of Quran he is the massager of Almighty God to all mankind. The Word of God is in the Quran. The lower class of poeple who makes fun of others without knowledge, like he who throws stones at people and whose house is made of glass.
@@obaidshz what's the proof that he's messanger of allah? He said and you deekheads believed.
Dr Abdul is good for preaching to the less educated.
Clearly Abdul cannot handle criticism well.
Think he handled criticism well... Just was not able to clearly explain his position.
Dr. Majid is dumb exactly as radical Muslim. The doors of wisdom is shut
he is doctor quak quak
Every true Muslim is uneducated
Dear AP, please continue the work you're doing. Millions of Hindus have your back and support you. You have lots of love and respect coming your way. Stay strong. Stay blessed.
this is what happens when an atheist focus on a single religion, while induism is as non sense as islam.
go study your religion first,castiesm and more
He isn't doing this for Hindus, you can be just as prejudiced and violent as muslims. Your caste system is a disgrace, just because he opposes Islam does NOT mean he supports hinduism. You need to look in the mirror a bit before using others as tools to fight YOUR enemies. Religion in general is evil, ive seen the disgusting and murderous comments thousands of hondus leave under any posts that criticize them. A man said kali was sexy (your religion LITERALLY advocates for sex in all ways and sees it as divine) and he was given death threats, Rape threats to his mother, and much worse.
But Hinduism has multiple ugly facets to it too.
what would you guys know?
So basically Dr Majid's "argument" is
Allah is true
The Quran is true
Muhammad is true
I'm a Muslim you're not
I'm educated in Islam you're not
I speak Arabic and it only works in Arabic
So there !
Source: trust me bro. It’s true bc it’s true.
the guy is a joker .
Abdul Majid, is a living contradiction. He said he doesn't know where anyone will go after they die but also said that unbelievers will go to hell since Allah sent prophets but they rejected them
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@@ne3583 My man!
This idea that a layman is qualified to accept Islam, but only a scholar is qualified to criticize it is, in itself, a layup of a refutation of Islam. The fact that even these “learned” Muslims don’t see that is incredible.
Why don’t dumbs know it???
Let's say there's a restaurant in your area you don't know about it but you hear good and as well as bad thing about it but you wanna taste the food yourself and decide, so you go there and taste it and come out, but then ONLY based on your taste whether you hate it or like it you go around telling people they use x ingredients when you have zero knowledge about the ingredients, you didn't even try to research the ingredients or try to ask the chef. Would your action be right?
@@mubba1149 And what if the specialist can't even say to you the main bread's ingredient is flour? Because this is exactly what is happening here.
@@catmart i was explaining about the idea of op's comment in a way i thought he would understand. If you're talking about the video then he did answer apostates questions but I can't make you understand that because even if you go to 100 specialists ultimately you'll only accept what you want to hear
@@bharat201 of course no one should trust blindly that's why you must ask. But you must not spread false information just by hearing couple of words and thinking you know it all. And when you ask, ask at least 2 people who knows about the matter
I am half way through. Respect to Dr. Abdul Majid for at least being willing to engage in a public arena. Regrettably all that is shown here is that he is functioning in a different paradigm of intellectual investigation. AP is openly and repeatedly inviting a response to his atheism and how he perceives the unintelligibility of Islam. Dr. Majid is assembling a catalogue of Quranic references that that he feels are relevant that justify his own convictions without actually engaging with the subject.
Yeah, what Muslim apologists haven't really understood is that throwing Quran verses at disbelievers has about the same effect as holy water has on them
Too much Calvinism in all this empty discourse.
Islam is a case of Miss Piggy looking in the mirror and thinking she sees Jessica Rabbit looking back. The written Ann Lemott once wrote: If it turns out that God hates all the same people you hate, you can rest assured that you have created God in your own image.
The logic of Lamott’s quote is self evident and irrefutable.
Also self evident and irrefutable is the fact that Mohammed’s God hated, and not only hated, but hated the same people Mohammed hated.
Mohammed made it all up and sustained the lie for 22 years, which also suggests he was a psychopath which the Islamic narrative also suggests by his behavior. Why? It gave him immense power, wealth and he had first choice among the enslaved women as his sex slaves. The final piece: his idea of heaven is defined as endless process of sex. Banality is the essence of evil.
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**********⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️**********
Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**
Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***
John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***
Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***
************are all prophets according to the Quran***********
Dr Majid literally went two hours of saying: „ALLAH GAVE YOU CHOICE ALLAH GAVE YOU CHOICE“ and thought he killed it
God decree is that He gave humans a choice.
Islam is fake for sure, don't know why these people want to spread this Virus ( Islam )
That's not how decree works my guy@@oeshkoer
Dr Abdul’s answer is not convincing he has failed to answer many of the points raised by Ridwan
He answered none .
Come on he won how can you argue with the qur'an is true becouse muslins believe it or how can man be here unless Allah made it so. 😂😂😂😂
CLASSIC ISLAMIC DEBATING
Ain't a Puritan, is yer?
Nothing is clear in Islam. Confusion 😄😄😄
@@olanipekunonatemowo4452 Just visit Zakir Naik not any tom dick Harry
AP you're getting better at debate man....good luck...
@@hydrocloricacid4803 Haha.. This is funny.
Was that threat? Or a friendship offer?
We may never know
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@@HonestLucifer lol 🤣🤣
Sigma rule #786
Convert to islam and destroy islam
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The final “stay away from Islam” is gold!! Lol
😂 Yeah & the little chuckle. Perfect ending, lol 👌
@@dyawr after listening for 152.5 minutes, all you wanted to hear was that very last part... :P
@@Woepke-B Yep. 😋
@@dyawr I believe you... :P
@Isaac5 Abraham hmmm, you're an odd duck.
Allah wanted the “truth” to be revealed to humanity so much that he revealed it only in Arabic. And that “truth” is only “true” in Arabic. If it gets translated, it’s not true anymore.
I feel really bad for Abdul.
He seems like a good guy, brainwashed with a horrible philosophy.
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U r not a Muslim
No no don't pity the brother, You should pity yourself, looking at Muslims with lesser knowledge of Islam and lesser intellect battle some ex-Muslim who is a better talker and articulator
, just so you can justify and feel better about leaving Islam. The real reason why you feel bad is that you know that the Muslim brother in the debate doesn't have the knowledge but was brave enough to defend what he believes in, And you feel bad because you know that if this "apostate prophet" debated a knowledgeable Muslim he would be destroyed within a few minutes. But he doesn't dare to debate a Muslim that is more knowledgeable in the fields of Islam, philosophy and science.
He is ruining 🇮🇳 name
Its not just philosphy, its the absence of the ability to argue and be honest about it.
Without lies, Islam dies.
I can add, with lies civilization and society dies. imho dogmatism and closeness to critical thinking is still the worst aspect of religions. Also the problem of seeking constant validation trying to suppress data and objective reality, to the point of going political because diversity is seen as a threat. That is unacceptable. 6000 years of human history and we have half or the world not only fine to live as 2000 years ago, but forcing the rest with them.
😂 good one 👍
Without fear, islam disappears
Typical cult, once you get in, hard to get out.
without lies, RELIGION dies
That "doctor" is proof that a formal education means nothing about how intelligent you are.
*+John Dreyer, I agree. Yet, we should keep in mind that all religions rely on the faith."*
@@seanavp that's your opinion, christians only use faith as a way to be saved but have mountains of evidence behind why we have that faith. Just because people discount the evidence doesn't make it any less true, that's just cognitive dissonance. I was a hard core Atheist before I found David Wood, and all I wanted to do was prove his "nonsense" evidence wrong but I couldn't.
@@johndreyer9730 Brother, I'm a Christian. Please don't take what I said and distort it. I agree with you, but was merely pointing out that all religions rely on articles of faith. Am I being disagreeable?
@@seanavp faith for most people ... but i think some people who are highly elevated can know the facts ...
right lib ? 😂
His basic argument is that Islam is true because it is. Genius I tell you,
He never addressed or answered anything you brought up, and he acted like a nice guy to convince viewers that Muslims are friendly :)
EXACTLY
Yeah it was more of a PR stunt by Dr. Abdul and the way he was looking for appreciation and validation from his behind the scenes assistants is enough proof that his humility was just a facade.
predictable.
@@hermionegranger8629 maybe..
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Thank you doctor Majid for letting me know that Islam is false
Sure pagan religion 100% bro! So many facts
@Yogi ji Congratulation broo😊 i am so glad. Hope Jesus bless you and your soul will find his home.
Go pray to a black erect penis if Shiva then.
@@anildoolah3442go fuck your sister and I’ll fuck Muhammad’s Ayesha 😂
As an agnostic, I am kinda disappointed about this debate. I was expecting that Dr. Abdul Majid would give some reasonable answers and straight to the point, instead of telling children stories.
Watch yt Dr. Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist, and how he, being a scientist, became a Christian just because he saw the evidence of God's creation of the earth in the book of Genesis.
Fascinating.
A dirty story for stupid horn** 72 angels of janna
This guy dodges all questions like a pro 😂😂😂
He sure did. At least he's funny though.
Not as good at dodging as that daniel guy ap debated it's seriously scary the amount of people in the comment section if that debate agreeing with him
@@skylermccloud6230 oh yeah. Daniel Ha-Pikachu.
Yea Muslim Skeptic is on a whole other level of insanity, defending and promoting things like apostasy laws, sex and marriage with children and jihad.
Its strange that a guy who so desperately despises modern western values continues to live in a country like the US instead of moving to Islamic nations like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Afghanistan, in which he could live just as his great prophet did and marry some 6 year old children and stone the non believers and gays.
Abdul constantly answered questions which AP never asked, he was also answering questions with questions it just reeked of dishonesty. BTW AP won by a mile.
It's the typical dawah way.... 😳
Wow ,how jerk can you be , its a racist thing to say you uneducated glass bum
@@bedro4real826 Always gotta play the victim with baseless accusations. Tell me.. what race does Islam belong to?
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HEY, I answer questions with questions many times. When done correctly, its better then making a statement.
It’s amazing how when Muslims make an argument they always bring Christianity into it
I’m a Muslim but I don’t understand why they do that either. Even though I’m Muslim, I like to think critically.
At the moment, I’m questioning Hadith and it annoys me when Muslims say “according to the bible, a 3 year old got married” I don’t believe that’s true, I think many Muslims are taught to use that argument. Even if it was true, it doesn’t justify Muhammad marrying a 6 year old according to “sahih” narrations.
@@iqranadeem9837 dear Iqra, you point out an interesting phenomenon. There are many arguments muslims use against the Bible which they learn from other muslims without reading the whole chapters they are quoting. A very popular one is the verse with the sword. They often already have their learned interpretation which no christian or jew has on it nor had in past history. Just recently i discussed with a muslim on Quora about a specific topic, where he quoted something but refused to read the chapter which wouldn't cost him more than 10 minutes.
When i wanted to know and understand islam, it wouldn't come to my mind to read christian books about islam. I went to mosque, i read the quran 7 times. To avoid that i interpret something wrong, i went to tafseer of alTabari or ibn kathir. I read a lot of ahadeeth. And i was careful to not interpret it in any way i want but as it is meant.
Because to understand islam, i need to desire to understand islam as it describes itself.
When i read christian sources on islam, then i don't learn about islam, but about the christian view on islam. That's a difference many don't understand.
Most muslims i know usually learn about christianity by the islamic perspective instead of trying to understand the christian or jewish understanding.
About the 3 year old girl in the Bible: I've read the Bible around 30 times. It's not there. It's a far fetched forced interpretation...
God bless you my dear!
الله يبارك فيك ولتكن نعمة الله معك
@@christophsurbeck2814 thank you for telling me your experience 😊 it’s okay to question and use our critical thinking skills and then decide what our beliefs are. I do have faith but there are some parts of Islam that I’m not sure of and I don’t receive adequate answers to those questions
@Sabbath D'inverno the Quran does teach a lot about Muhammad and his life, more than people expect, since his name is only mentioned 4 times. His character differs between the Quran and Hadith. I don’t like it when muslims say things like “it was okay that he married a six year old according to hadith because it was a completely different time period and area” because the Quran says that he’s a role model. He’s a role model for Muslims of all time periods, not just the group of Arabs in the 7th century
@@iqranadeem9837 gotta say, I really enjoyed reading your posts.
Wish you well in life.
I do not possess a degree in geology, so that means (according to mr. Majid) I am not qualified to say the earth isn't flat?
😂😂😂😂👌
Err...the Earth is flat...
Very good comparison
Translation it self is enough
I am MA History and M Phil
67 years now
I listen from AP and learn
Though I a Hindu I got byheart 11 surah for Namaj Read Quran in Though and English(I am MA English pgdte Chiefland MEd)
I appreciate Ap- same doubts I had
Ap s vedios superb transparent
Dr AM is good but his argument
He seems to have from my state Ap ie Andhra pradesh-his language ie English
Not North Indian..
AP or Rijwaan showed many points in his vefioes-- unique
Biblical debates too divert talking about Hebrew or Greek
Ap s.vedioes exposes many things in religions which makes us laugh
(.I like Dr A M - Indian Englidh- south- not TN-- like Andhra
But he or xyz of all religions Hindu Christianity Islam can not justify
Irrational.
Unscientific
Ridiculous absurd
( religions diametrically opposite to each other- all can not be true
Hindu Bhagvadgita 4---11- all paths will be answered)
Beloved Dr AM did not answer many of the objections of beloved AP- really prophet of Reason
Prince of .questioning
Enchanting English
Benign& beautiful countenance
Like Indian Hero
I like both of them Dr AM is with noor like his son like one Rizwan
But parallel lines do not meet
Arguments language Grammer trickish ways do not make our earth flat
Hadeeth came later
Quran itself is exposed
Ap has shown the ferocity in Islam
Other religions too have it to some degree
Conditioned minds are programmed to talk in despicable way
Ap prefers C j H B to Islam
Hinduism is fascinating
Buddhism mesmerizing
Confucius + x has 8nner peace
Christianity is lovable
Judaism is also x
But.Islam according to Ap& many can not be accommodated
Sanskrit scholars too talk like Dr A M
4 different meanings Para pasyaanti etc
Brother AM is also nice man
Moderator James King is follower of benign Jesus pbuh? Is also great.
I do 1oo Rakyat and more than that 200 too
But tryh is needed
I read all religions and denominations
But truth is wanted
Futile to talk with fundamentalists of.all religions
Mansur Hallaj was killed for Anal haq or belief of rebirth
Wives can not be hit on face--
Brother A M could be a good Muslim according to Islamic standards but need not correct according to other rrligions or truth--- science rationalism etc
All is well that ends well
I like this vedio though some unpalatable questions etc are there
God Almighty bless every body .
I really thought Dr Majid was gonna be up for this and I was excited to see a good debate. But after that opening I’m finding it difficult to carry on watching.
Since Dr Abdul Majid is so proud about his Arabic, I suggest he debate Christian Prince in Arabic and let us laugh together.
He will never ever debate CP, it will be circus and end of his career 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@bishopheahmund3032 💯
CP can barely speak English. He just has an accent that makes his fans think he is an expert in Arabic but he mispronounces words a lot and never corrects himself.
@@bishopheahmund3032 oh thought this already ended his career.
@jazzymiles miles CP will end Dr Zakir career and that is why even Dr Shabir Ally politely turned down an offer to debate CP, saying, " He plays in a higher leaque."
What a bummer. As a muslim almost all apologists make me bang my head repeatedly against the wall when they answer non muslims by quoting Quran and Hadith, it is like asserting I am the best because my mother said so
Why are you still Muslim?
@@Cheximus I belong to the community by default. I ll always stay proudly in the camp and defend it from cultural and social point of view, but never from theological point or that divisive "us vs them" mentality.
@@irfangullbhat fair enough. So you don't believe in it from a theological perspective? You just don't want to be disowned by your family and friends. I get that.
@@Cheximus More than anything you don't want to rob your ageing parents off their sprituality. If we try and convince elderly muslims that all the endeavour they have been putting all their life actually has no significance...it is so so wrong, it is heartbreaking.
@@irfangullbhat
I, for one, appreciate and respect your position..... I wish more individuals like you existed in this polarized, and often frustrating world!
Dr. Abdul Majid should have a conversation with Christian Prince seeing CP Arabic speaking Christian.
Yes. Hallelujah
AP & CP vs Majid = a very HOT debate! 😄
CP would have mashed Dr Potato within the first 1min.
They will never debate Christian prince! C.P would spanked him so hard.
CP will crush him ,cos CP is super Arabic. The Dr didn't understand the question at all........
I dont think a lot of religious people understand what ‘evidence’ means. They go to their book, read a verse and say thats the evidence 😅
Good point. It’s evidence the text says it, although their inter of it is just that, an interpretation.
Allah is true because the Quran says so. I didn't expect this kind'a argument from an educated person.
Aisha was a woman playing with dolls.
The debate didn't materialize simply because one of them is arguing and the other one preaching.
She could never have children because of the damage done to her by an adult man.
I don't think he is Dr. He sound confuse
Yes, he really caught us all off-guard there! We should have realized that Allah is true because it's right there in the Quran. And the Quran is true because it is the word of Allah! It's so obvious, because the world is a circle, so circular reasoning is based on reality!
What’s always striking is that Muslim apologists make the arguments against Islam vague or complex! If something remains vague, you can't object it! If something is made complex, the educated Muslim apologist makes himself the only person in the discussion empowered to explain things and puts the opposing party in the position of someone who misunderstands and is ignorant! In this way the Muslim apologist has the control and the upper hand in the discussion.
Dr. Masjid seems like a nice and sincere man. However, he mainly gave his personal rosy view on Islam but hardly got into a debate!
My faith became more strong after watching him and Alhamdulillah I knew all of his fake accusations answers
very true
@@RecitationOfQuran1 Do you believe Mohamed flew to the moon?
@@RecitationOfQuran1 You are everywhere, trying to prove the old caravan robber, that climbed on top of a girl, is right…🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@RecitationOfQuran1
Sound like you aren't using taqiyyah.
Nobody here believes you though
Dr Abdool Majid says he's got Six cats, Five daughters, Four wives. ...and a partridge in a pear tree. Taqiya at its best. The Wisdom of Islam belongs in a slapstick comedy. This could be funny if it wasn't so true.
Hahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahha
Aaaaaaaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahaha
Ayoo hhahaha I’m in tears!
I think one should be relaxed about all religions and just be thankful to God.
And live life as normal .
The second u mentioned taqiya u lost dear
How many dogs ??
I'm leaving islam since 2017, and the sad part is I starting learn the truth on Islamic University
Which one my Indonesian friend?
'You got destroyed, BOY!!!!!' said an ignorant Muslim who thinks that dogs drive away the Angels
Many indegoenous and tribal people around the world belives thag Dogs can see spirits(especially evil one).....
@sacred warrior they’re not
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How? When Majid could not debate even with a lay person; does Muslims realise that they can only quote the quran: quoting the quran does not make a debate; if he couldn't answer simple straightforward questions and belittling a person who does not know Arabic and therefore the quran: : just goes to show that majority of Muslims does not understand the quran😅😅😅
Dr. Abdul Majid seems like a genuinely good guy. I hope he wakes up to the truth that Islam is false, rather than continue to propagate this evil cult.
Exactly!
You sound very ignorant
He's on right way don't you know these people knows bible more than you and here you telling them to wake up 🤣🤣 if your bible is true come educate from us we can correct you on what way it's true. How can you say if you're not stupid Jesus is God and he can do everything but your God couldn't even save himself from death for three day and got killed by human what kind of God is this? How dare you let down my Jesus Prophet PBUH like that.
And I'm pretty sure you enjoyed from Abdul education that's how we educate others.
@@Just_logic Because you reason like Abdul hahahaha
This "debate", simply confirms the futility of doing so with muslims with indoctinated closed minds. Great job done A.P.
First logical fallacy at 17:08 - Appeal to Ignorance: How were we created? We don't know. Therefore Allah.
Second logical fallacy at 18:20 - False/Faulty analogy or false eqivalence: Can a mother create herself? No. Hence the Universe can't create itself. Therefore Allah.
Third logical fallacy at 19:04 - Non sequitur or Causal Reductionism: You cannot have two creators because if you did you would have chaos (there was no chaos in Olympus).
Fourth logical fallacy at 21:46 - Poisoning the Well: All the books are inferior to the Quran therefore the Quran is correct.
Fifth logical fallacy at 22:35 - Argumentum ad populum or Red Herring: Even the non believers accept Mohammed's greatness hence Mohammed was great (which deflects from the relevant question of whether he was a prophet of the truth).
Sixth logical fallacy at 32.26 - Argument to Authority or Appeal to Accomplishment or Poisoning the Well: AP is not qualified to argue therefore his questions are invalid.
Seventh logical fallacy at 33:17 - False dichotomy: If Islam doesn't hold the truth then what does? If nothing else holds the truth then Islam must be the truth.
I also find it quite ridiculous that Dr Majid states that you must know Arabic to understand the Quran. Hence if you don't know Arabic you better forget about converting to Islam as you have no chance of understanding the book of truth. It also begs the question - if the Quran can't be translated, why translate it?
From around 40:00 it starts to descend into disorder and it becomes personal.
At 60:00 Dr Majid states that we don't have free will (Allah decrees everything) but because you don't know what that decree is you bear the responsibility of your choices. This is an absurd argument. You either have free will and can choose or everything has been decreed (predestined) before your birth. If I do not have the ability to choose why do a bear responsibility of my choices? Dr Majid either doesn't understand the question, has misinterpreted the word "decree" or he is quibbling.
Eighth logical fallacy at 1:17:15 (I've skipped many in between but this one is a pearler which all theists use) - ad baculum and appeal to fear: if you don't believe me you will perish in hell.
At 1:28:15 Question: "Dr Majid do you think your arguments are circular?" "I'm not here to convince anybody... [but let me answer the previous question on incest which was directed at AP]". Hilarious. By the way, I think AP could have done better with the question on incest (which is an appeal to emotion fallacy - the Romans for example didn't have any problem with it) by asking whether pedophilia is equally reprehensible. Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses.
At 1:30:54: Question to Dr Majid - Answer: Christians believe in one God, Hindus, Jews believe in one God etc but what about the 2 billion (a quarter of the wold's population) East Asians, Indigenous peoples of North and South America & Australia & Africa? Let's just sweep them under the carpet.
Next time a Muslim asks a Christian about a contradiction in the Bible the Christian should say, you can't understand because you're not a Christian scholar and you don't speak Koine Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic. This argument, which was extensively used by Dr Majid, contradicts his argument. Dr Majid claims that the Bible and Torah are inferior books to the Quran. How would he know if he hasn't read these books in their original language?
Yes, Yes, but their best argument in favour of islam is sharia, which will execute anyone who disagrees with it. It seems to work very well in cult majority countries that implement sharia as state law.
10/10
Dr Majid...don't know.. shall I laugh at his logic or cry
As an ex muslin I’m familiar to his reasoning their main saying to order Muslim if they question them is you have to believe in your heart and don’t let this questions entering your mind because it shows that the sheitan (devil) is trying to mislead you
It is more like God Almighty is trying to ask us to use our reasoning, rathet than devil is trying to enter our mind when we question Islam, brother
@@cheahbianheng2422 sad to announce to you that if you believe in any sort of god you are not allowed to criticise islam in any way shape of form lol all religions are as stupid as one another.
@@cheahbianheng2422 then the reasoning people do is clearly off.
How did he get his doctorate if he is missing a common sense/logic?
Also the name of that university must be made public so that people know which one to avoid!
He said his doctorate is in Islamic finances djizia and the university doesn’t exist no more
Now you know if a doctorate has this level of common sense ,what level of common sense would be in those with no doctorate.🤪🤪🤪🤪
Thats why they shut down the université...
Dr. Abdul Majid must have received his doctorate degree from the University of Al Phoenix...
Gothamchess reference?
@Black Panther You seem like an impartial scientist; please keep going straight following the sign "deluded zealots", you will find a door with the word "truth" written on it, I must warn you, you can't open it, and please don't try to pretend, the ones who claim to have done it become very violent if you try to call them out on it. Once you are tired of trying, please go back to where you are coming from and rejoin the immense space named "humanity", it's not that bad if you think about it. Don't forget to get your portfolio on "humility and peaceful living amongst brethren" on your way there.
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Abdul Majid DOES NOT HAVE a real DOctorate in anything. He refuses to say where he got it, and he claims it was shut down anyway.
@@georgehollingsworth2428 what all he said , he has quoted from the Qur'an and there are many Muslim viewers watching, they would recognise any mistake, but he said all What even scholars would agree with from quoting the verses of *Qura'n and Hadith*
Finally, people began to speak the truth. No more fear but facts, verses and great bebts, Greatful for internet🙏
AP - well reasoned argument. Imam - Rambling nonsense. His rambling was cringe making. And this guy is at the top of his game. He didn’t appear to understand the questions.
^^ For real, this was a heckin hot mess
It's all about “submission”. A slave need to know how to say yes. That's all. Now walk out in the world and make more slaves.
True it's like he was just doing dawah not debate. Too much extra filter fluff and waste alot of time. They never change : like a used car salesman trying sell you a lemon 🍋
What God creates a book for the whole world that can only be read in 1 language. How can Islam say that the Quran can only be read in Arabic when the Quran was first written in Quresh and the Arabic that they use today with all the diacritical markings (vowels) didn't come to the 8th century.
These people make no sense. I didn’t know they were just as bad as the Jesus followers.
Both groups say one thing, then another the next day.
Imagine if God sent a 💿 disc 1000s of years ago instead of a book and the people didn't know what to do with it so they preserved it and protected it til someone invented a computer that was able to read it. And inside this disc contained stuff like i am god, do good, and you'll be rewarded etc. And this disc couldn't be formatted.
@@MohammedMuhiUddin WHAT HAS THAT TO DO WITH ISLAM?
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"A 9 year old girl IS NOT a woman."
Profiteer Moe says yes.
AP what a great presentation . Well organised. Very well guided and stated. Very clear information and great examples to support the information delivered . Brilliant research. Well presented evidence based referencing .
Credentials are meaningless. Take Christian Prince, an Arab with a masters in sharia law, complete understanding of the Quran and hadith and can debunk Islam with one opening sentence .
Cp dont want to debate, he wants to spank 😆
@@kebenarandanhidup8849 clearly said "expose".
True
I got the feeling that “dr” Abdoul Majid isn’t alone there and he is getting help of one or two people sitting beside him.
It didn't help him much.
I think I know the madrassa where he gained his PhD.
Zakir Naik was also enrolled there.
Yeah, for sure. He is a professor or something (scholar at least) & working with an organisation (that's how this ppl get promoted & put forth in the public eye). And those peps are probably 2 students, or his assistant & a camera man. (something like that)
@@deltanovember1672 Lol, must be top notch. 🤭👌
And he still not one rebuttal from him or his helpers 🤣🤣🤣
AP has proven Islam as false by showing the many mistakes in the Quran. All it takes is one mistake in the supposed "perfect" Quran to prove it's false. You did a great job, AP.
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See this do you have read the whole quran .? Every verse are in differnt places
He ain't do nothing .... Islam is the truth
@@islamaboyy588 you can't keep saying it's the truth without engaging in the debate. That's like if someone asked me how planes fly, and my response was, "they just fly."
Know what you believe, study for yourself.
@@Potato-mu7nu lol ....yeah
@@islamaboyy588 yes, I am a simple potato, but even I can see when someone doesn't understand what they believe.
*Dr. Abdul's arguments in the beginning about islam being true:*
Islam is true because Allah is only one god and if there were many gods they would fight each other, it would be chaos... It's just like in boxing: you can have only one winner, therefore Allah is only god and islam is true.
- This is even insulting for a brain of a 14 year old.
Dr Abdul Majid is the single weakest debater I've ever heard in a formal debate.
I think he did loads better than Mo Hijab, when it comes to proper conduct & sincerity in engaging the opponent's points *honestly.* Also, Mojab makes a whole pretentious case of things unrelated to the topic & tries to veer the discussion away in a completely new direction. 🤦♀️
(Don't even get me started on Haqiqacju and his strawmans - that guy literally makes me wanna punch him)
So, idk - I think Dr Abdul Majid did a half-decent job, considering he's defending Islam... and he's quite funny. 🤷♀️
Check out Osama Abdallah vs Sam Shamoun lol
Wow, worse than Nadir Ahmed?
@UC8A0rzRAlYsfAKEvjvo5Rng Nadir Ahmed is such a poosy, he couldnt even make it 10 mins in without screwing up
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A. P. This is not a debate. You tell facts from his perfect book that CLEARLY is not. Many inaccurate made up nonsense is blown off as don't listen to him listen to me with zero facts or evidence to the contrary. His entire argument is your not qualified... When he attacks you personally you won.
Regardless of what was said, I must say, this is “one of” the most respectful Muslims in a debate that I’ve seen
i agree if it was his true nature, the question is how a believer says i have respect to all human being whatever he thinks, but his god have no respect for his creature and promise them hell in earth and in the 'afterlife'.
How can a muslim believer be better and have better values than his god? it's not it's just taqya (hypocrisy)
All due respect to all involved: Titles and tiaras are no longer relevant. Truth is the only relevance. I have no more clarification on the truth of Islam than before I listened to the debate. I share AP’s disappointment. “Who are you to ask this question?” Is not an answer to a question. 🙁
All Muslims are respectfull
@@lifesucks4950 False.
@@lifesucks4950 lier but you can lie bc it is in youre book, abdullah
If islam were true, why do they use a sword to prove it? Would a math teacher do the same?
Allah is true, quran is true, because I say so and many many muslims do. Ridiculous, Mr Ahmed Majid.
Allah is true because its clearly stated in quran. Quran also stated that sperm comes from the ribs and sun orbits the earth and in the night sun goes to god and come back. These guys brains are paralized. You can see it that they dont have personal opinions. They say "we do because its what muslims do". What a waste of human potential.
What a potato
False. If you lived before the 7th century, you would not be a Muslim. You do know human beings have lived for centuries, without Islam right?
@Chubukraken
That’s what religion was created for. People will not advance, unless they remove it from their lives.
Jesus Christ is true God amen here is exmuslim for Jesus amen 🙏
Every Muslim scholar is apparently a doctor as well? In Pakistan same goes for news anchors?
You are truly mature and honest, AP.
Momo Hijabi could only dream of being as sincere as you.
Their career doesn't allow them to be sincere.
It's not one of his goals...
And we're proud of that
The only honest Muslim apologist I have seen so far is Daniel Haqiqatjou. That dude says exactly exactly what the Quran and Hadiths say without deceptively sugar-coating the Quran verses nor engaging in mental gymnastic to reinterpret the Quran and Hadiths to fit today's moral standards.
@@Ras_Spinoza Yeah, from *that* pov. But in order to do that, he then needs to engage in *extremely strawmanned* justifications for them - which are quite frankly absurd (maybe even dishonest), disturbing & quite exasperating... tbh.
So, I think I preferred Dr AM in his style here, cause at least he was more civilised & (at some point) willing to engage more *honestly* with the opponent's points...
Dr. Abdul has made himself more than qualified for a lifelong meme in this video.
Thanks to Apostate Prophet
🤦🏼♂️ I couldn't believe Majid's opening argument (15:00 ):
Islam is true, based on:
1. Allah is true.
2. The Quran is true.
3. Mohammed is true.
"That is all based on the Quran."
OK, then your argument is circular. Goodbye. 👋🏻
He also Rizvan proved Islam is false (14:46). I agree. 🤨 I think you could have stopped there, AP.
His other "arguments":
- Riz doesn't speak Arabic, but then he contradicts himself by asking the question "What would be the point of writing a book in Chinese if no-one could understand. Not withstanding, there are over 1bn Chinese speakers, he completely misses how this weakens his own argument; what would be the point of sending a divine message in a language that only 3% of the world's population speak?"
😂😂😂
Actually I speak Arabic and there's not really much of a difference. If anything I feel that texts in English are nicer than the original Arabic text lol
And is only intended for Arabs
@@athenenoctua2527 dude just wanna ask is it really quran says Allah is the best deceiver ?
Exactly, he makes it look like the Quran or Islamic literature is meant for learned Arabic speakers. To argue that this also is the universal message for all mankind is ridiulous, he just dimmed Ridvan unqualified to understand Islamic literature since he has no Arabic education, thats literally a third of the world or more. We are not qualified to believe in Allah period!! If I can't afford a masters in Arabic I can't possibly afford following Allah. 🙄
I think Naik and Majid both got their doctorates from the same source.
Muddy Pond High 🤓🌅
Online degree of course, as no one knows its location...
@@loopydoopi hey I like the happy meal. Stop saying stuff about it
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It came from Kaaba High School and then Dul-Kar Nain University
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Okay... so the islam is real and true because it's written in the koran...
🤦♂️🤦♂️
First of All it’s English translation is not correct what Allah wants to convey
1- Allah has given human beings subconscious mind to think what is right and what is wrong if you choose to believe that the idol is your god then it’s okay you have limited your god in an idol 2. He also says if you don’t follow his commandments I will surely put into the hell to disbeliever 3 He also said that to each and every human beings he will show his sign in the horizon to the disbelievers until they come to the truth before they die 🥴🥴🥴Bro you are pointing out Allah threat only look to the both side since we are human being so we need a threat to be on the right path for an example when u were 7 years your mother might be giving you some threat of not doing any bad things otherwise I will punish you that does not means that your mother don’t love you 🌝Have debate with me If you have guts 🥴🥴🥴
@@ShopZx. 1. You haven't really made strong points in favor of Islam. 2. You haven't addressed his one single point at all. You wanna debate? Let's go!!!
@@BlackZar84 Bit of a necro-post but I agree with you. It's circular and founded in nothing. At least for Jews and Christians the Torah, Gospels, and Bible in general are accounts written by people about God on the basis they have the ability to because they have faith. It's not some mystical book provided by Allah that you have no clue where came from except that it's a book from Allah because it says so.
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This was such a good debate video. There are too many good things to point out in one message but thanks for posting AP
Dr. Abdul is polite... But in the first half of the discussion he didn't understand the question, and in the second half his tribal thinking became so obvious.. (the question had been whether it's good when authorities persecute disbelievers, not whether he'd offer AP hospitality.....)
yep the 2nd half he has gone full tribal mode!
A Logical debater with an open mind VS A cult member stuck in his own delusional bubble.
It's clear.
Is it a cultural or religious thing to think that nonstop yelling is what wins a debate? Does this loudmouth think his audience is hard of hearing?
Is this kind of hyper rudeness impressive to adherents of Islam?
VERY clear.
This “debate” is absolutely painful to listen too, this dude has no idea how to debate.
Dr Abdul Majid, yes he doesn't.
It was so bad.. idk if I've ever seen a more one sided "debate ".
Dear Rizwan, I am Mohammed ajhas ( ex - Muslim) happy that I left Islam and found the true God through Bible. This Islamic scholar just defamed the Islamic scholars and wasted the whole time in this video. Happy for you Rizwan 😊
God this is an impossible argument. Abdul Majid. Is not having a reasonable argument. In fact no muslim has a reasonable argument
The reason this is an impossible argument is simply because allah has not given us sufficient evidence... So we all need to say....
Please do whatever prayer you wish to get your god to type "Hi" on my keyboard (without the quotes) to show the world your god is not a fantasy. Thank You.
Then no magical arguments.. yet they can still keep making arguments of ignorance as believers are not knowers yet they think they are. This is the fact they wrestle with.
stupidity is never impossible, and this live proves it once again.
@@Mystical_Blackpiller You are absolutely correct! It seems the truly stupid humans do not seem to recognize what is really impossible.
The debate was is Islam is true and he is trying to prove there is one Allah. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Exactly, pointless...
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and to believe that people kill and die for this stupid realign is mind blowing
Lmao extrimism and islam is not the same
Extremism exists in any ideology. Rough stuff 😔
"Maybe Turkish girls are not ready at that age, but Arab girls are. Come on man, I know how Arab girls are, heheheh"
brb, throwing up.
Dr Abdul Majid deserves to be respected for not running away like average muslim apologist.
This guy can’t even handle me who is abdul majid then🤣🤣
This guy he himself runs away or he hires some fake scholar
@@RecitationOfQuran1 you are just noname internet troll, at least abdul majid have courage dear troll.
@@PredatorPeyami hahahaha ok as you say but this won’t save you from Allah
@@RecitationOfQuran1 pathetic
After listening Abdul's this splendid argument "if Allah doesn't exist, then who created you?", I became a muslim and I'm doing namaz 5 times a day now 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂His parents are like, "what" ?
Not a Muslim, just wondering, what do you actually think created life? What was the spark the created life.
Or more specifically, beyond life (kinda) what created the consciousness within us?
I think one or two ideas,
One:
A completely religious way of thinking.
Something, somehow, sparked life on this specific planet.. or sparked consciousness, and we cannot find any other thing remotely like it in the universe.
Two:
life accures naturally.
Like on point one, we have yet to ever find any life anywhere we look.
Maybe we will find it, but I doubt it.
Why are we the only conscious beings?
Lol😂😂😂...
@@ShalaJC its very simple tbh. Evolution of life and mutation caused it. It starts with water and water based beings then slowly transformed into what we are as of today. And it didn't happen in a day earth is billions years old.
@@ShalaJCYou can ask all sorts of questions, e.g. "Is there life on other planets?"
And the ONLY honest answer is option 3: "I don't know".
One can elaborate that with "I don't really know, but we can make educated estimations based on things we've discovered. We will continue to experiment and discover to improve our understanding of the universe."
With option 3 one has to make peace with the reality. That all of us who have ever lived to date will never know these answers, and it is time for humanity to grow up from this infantile neediness to make up elaborate creation myths.
Wondering why we are the only ones who are conscious presumes there aren't conscious civilizations who
a) are too far away
b) have already lived and died off
c) have yet to be born long after we are gone.
The universe is HUGE and we just don't have the interstellar highways yet.
One of the most pathetic of arguments is to insist that unless you know Arabic, you will not understand the teachings.
@Sabbath D'inverno Exactly.
It means Indonesians, Pakistanis , Bangladeshis , Turkish AnD many more aren't true Muslims because they don't speak Arabic well only allahu alqaraf 🤦🤣
Lol...the omniscient Allah knows only one language...Arabic!!!!
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Respect to all these individuals who have taking the time to have this discussion.
My brain hurts when this bearded guy speaks! He just cannot answer one single question and makes no sence.
At least he was polite , not like many others
haha wellsaid bro .hit the nail with this comment .
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@@rook451 You do understand this was a joke right?
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Dr Abdul: circular reasoning, moving the goal post and appeal to authority fallacies. Very weak weak arguments. Good to see AP thriving. Quite the titan in the atheist community. Keep up the good work AP. Nice to have a atheist who deals with the Islam community as there's not enough of them
Unbelievable that the Muslims can escape from the real argument to try to confuse the people even though the debate was from the Quran. I really I don’t understand how the Imams can convince the Christians to convert to Islam if the Quran translation in Arabic is different from the an English.
At least he is a nice guy
@@sallycent6598 that's a very good point never thought about that
@@jvharbin8337 ... but a madman of Allah
@@jvharbin8337 but a madman of Allah
WHO ARE WE?
You don't know Arabic, so you can not criticize Islam and the Quran.
We don't know ancient Hebrew and Greek, but we do criticize the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism.
Good point!
Lol... the omniscient Allah know only Arabic language.