@@EricConey-qt6ls E.1999 is a serious ass album lol. The only lighthearted song is Budsmoker's Only and maybe Buddah Lover. I would never play that album at a party with chicks lol
Gangster thugs its all the same I remember when I met bone when they 1st started and they were on the corner rapping and sale in stuff so what would you call it
@@ogragan3492 not really bro a gangster a thug and also a hoodlum and hooligan are all in the same don’t know what time and era you’re from but you check your pass history the called the gangsters from 1920 on up all the same 🤷🏾♂️
@@dabatmaniamoutthed7975 Let me make this short sweet n simple... A gangster is some who is in a GANG, GANG-STER.... A thug is a guy thats heavy in the streets but not necessarily in a gang. They are not synonymous and not mutually exclusive. For instance, Daz n Kurupt were thugs who happened to be in a gang, so they could be considered both.... Alot of the Italian mobsters were gangsters but not thugs. Bone Thugs and Slim Thug live true to their name as street dudes but not gangsters.
Cleveland dude here. I STILL fw that DPG album, hard AF. But i think Bone is VERY underappreciated as is the city of Cleveland. S/O to my ftiends and family in the West and down south, but that midwest different.
@@errintaylor3667 I know alot of ppl out that way. If I was on the Eastside I was in Goodyear heights off Eastland. Westside,over by ButchelbH H.S. And I was some years behind Bone, but I heard they was all over the place. Cleveland always been wild.
I’m from west Akron but when I delivered for Krispy Kreme to chilles on e 116th they would give me free food and tell Bone stories all the time. And u definitely right I’m 30 and ppl my age in Cleveland can’t sing one song off of e eternal 🥴🥴
100% Eiht is so extremely biased because HE was/is a Crip. Most DIDN’T say their gang’s name on wax @ the time, if they were, in fact, gangstas, because it doesn’t make financial sense to ostracize enemies of said gang & lose that potential income. Also, Bloods & Crips wasn’t the only gangs in America. I know that SEEMS obvious, but from conversations like this it doesn’t SEEM to BE. Bone may not claim an actual gang in their lyrics, but they say “me gang” more times than one can recall. So, they say this, but don’t mean they’re “gangsta,” they mean they’re only “street”?! This has gotta be one of THE DUUUUMBEST debates I’ve ever heard. I understand hip hop is all about being the best, but Eiht arguing this is no different than the East Coast saying, back in the day, how only real rappers came from there. It’s the same bs with EVERYTHING…I did this, came from this, belong to this so, BECAUSE of that, MY whatever is the biggest, baddest, hardest, best, “MORE GANGSTA”! I’ll tell you what it IS, the MOST RIDICULOUS!
That's exactly why Eiht is right. Bone thugs weren't gangbangers, but they were street AF. Bone thugs are my favorite artist period, but Eiht is right that they're not technically "gangsters". Bone thugs say that themselves, that they're just grimy thugs from a dirty neighborhood in Cleveland. Love Eiht too, and he's right. Same exact thing goes for operation stackola.
@@alanking3726 Bone thugs were gang bangers they banged wasteland which is their hood which used to be dominated by a gang called the dynamite devils but gang banging had been played out already in Cleveland before the media started putting bloods and crips on full display. If the brick city outlaws and dynamite devils would’ve kept pushing the line and reciting bone would’ve been dynamite devils.
For one Bone always made it clear that they weren't gangster and that they were thug niggas from the street they always said it in their music that their definition of thugs was diff from being considered gangsta
@@justinfuriated its definitely arguable on both albums. Sonically the production and as a rap fan, Dog Food is in my top ten all time. Eternal is definitely a classic but Dog Food may be my all time favorite release from Deathrow as far as replay value.
Half of doggfood was strong. But I skip some songs. If it wasn't for dre putting the finishes touches on 3-4 of the best songs idk. And dre had his hands on some of them bom tracks no doubt
I think their definition of Gangster is you were reppin a gang, i.e. Crips, Bloods, G.D., ect.... Bone never said they were gangsters they always claim Thug Life. They had street music/hustle music. IMO
@@mayurikurotsuchi1527they did rep they repped the wasteland. Wasteland is a hood/ gang in the Glenville neighborhood in Cleveland, Ohio. There’s other gangs of that era like the Tribe, 7 All, S O Hells Kitchen, Kinsman County the Blade, Quincy CPK. Compound Killas, Wade Park Vice Lords and Road Doggs, I could keep going on and on just because they’re not saying blood or crop doesn’t mean they weren’t banging. Back in 1993/1994 u go over to the wasteland and see if they bang on you or not over there that shit wasn’t no joke over there. The Cleveland gang dynamic is different and smaller than LA Or Chicago at that time so Eiht wouldn’t understand it but now that them projects are torn down the chi is kinda like Cleveland with the exception the homegrown gang heartless felons isn’t subject to a area like west side, southside or projects it’s got members in essentially every hood.
@@1lifestyle112 he’s another dude that would get beat up easily on St. Clair, and would have to fall in line. None of that Compton gangsta shit would matter. Just a bunch of black ass ninjas in a predominantly black ass city like Cleveland is what you have to deal with.
You fools got the game twisted, dogg pound were gangstas who happen to rap, bone was not. There's a different between street mf's and official gangstas in a official gang
Love both albums, but as far as which one is better? E.1999 hands down. That’s a top 5 album from 1995. Dogg Food is a classic but it’s no E.1999 Eternal.
@@chadtep7571Blood and Crips are gangsters. Where do you think the word gangster comes from. From the word "gang". Y'all act like you know but you don't. Faking the Funk.
I'm from Oakland and spent TIIIME in L.A county ...the difference is 85 percent of hoods in Oakland far as blocks...we don't have a specific sworn enemy to where we can make up name and diss they WHOLE hood...but got be ready for anyone.. anything...at any time that's the difference..ain't no Specific beefs!!
Cleveland is different Cleveland gangbang, Hood bang and Block bang. For example You might find a Heartless felon and Bounty Hunter Blood from the same street off of let’s say 10-5 st Clair. The felons gang is gonna come first because it’s home grown but block first for the Bounty Bunter blood because it’s more felons in the city n they can’t war with them so that takes precedence. So now you got the street or area. The hood is called wasteland but the street might be called Garfield or Empire. Empire or Garfield might be beefing with Morrison because it’s crips on that street but they might have to come together to fight crips from let’s set Kinsman ( not saying that it’s still crips over there) or possibly a felon from Cedar. So that’s the dynamic of how Cleveland was. You could bang wasteland, 10-5 and your street Garfield and your actual gang depending on your location. So you could be beefing with a whole different neighborhood like let’s say East Cleveland, you could be beefing with a guy on your OWN street in a different gang, a guy from your hood on a different street and more than likely in a different gang and this is what made Cleveland so confusing, dangerous and no real presence of logic term Gangs.
There's a difference between cali gangsta and Cleveland gangsta. Bone obviously adopted the west coast fashion from eazy e but they are not gang related, they were hustlin thugs. bone was on their own sounds E.1999 Cleveland thug style.
@@1lifestyle112 I know, I stay in Carson. I grew up listening to bone since faces of death but also listened to doggpound. Was just saying bone don't care about gangsta shit, they never once mentioned anything gangsta in any songs, they were about dark shit and thuggin. Cleveland is on whole different level.
Bone didn't adopt anything from Eazy. Bone brought a whole new style to the game, mixing rap with harmony. Singing and raping was they thing. They was more street then gangsta. More artists then rappers.
Eternal and Dogg Food are two of my favourite albums but I don't think I've ever considered either gangster. As others have pointed out, Bone were Thugs, so their whole hustle and grind was different. Kurupt spent most of the album talking about his lyrical prowess rather than gang banging
Bone thugs never even called themselves gangster rap. They did their own style and flavor. But coming out with Eazy e and being influenced by NWA they got lumped into the gangster rap genre
Dogg pound album was a more gangsta album but e. 1999 was a better album if that makes sense. I I luv both albums. I just think eternal was a tighter album
TWISTA was gangsta but you wouldn’t know what he talking about if you ain’t from here crucial conflict and psycho drama do or die always spoke on gangsta shit all through the music vice lord shit
How about Oceanside, California GD Rap artist Bishop Snow or Montgomery, Alabama GD Rap duo Dirty (aka Dirtyboyz) consisting of Big Pimp and Mr. G Stacka the Gangsta???
@@ChiraqMaybach-ii9wm I forgot about Flint, Michigan Rap groups The Dayton Family (GDs) and Top Authority, as well as early 1990s Atlanta, Georgia Gangster Rap group the Hard Boyz and Decatur, Georgia Rap group Ghetto Mafia (Gangsta Nino & Wicked)
I don't think a lot of people outside of Chicago know about Psychodrama like that & CC were didn't really have much success after The Final Tic. I wouldn't say DOD had a lot of success after Headz or Tailz either tbh.
Dogg Pound never harmonized.... But still kept it Gangsta. Bone Thugs had the best album. To rap fast, it takes time to do that. They executed with a dope style that's why EAZY E signed them!!!!
It’s like this. Bone had Eazy E for less than a year to help promote their music with DJ uneek as producer. Dogg pound had Snoop, Dre, pac, suge knight, Warren G and Nate dogg. Bone made a fast impact world wide not just the US. Dogg pound primarily talked about getting women and Bone talked about murder primarily. bone rarely talked and getting girls and having sex and taking someone’s woman. Dogg pound was good don’t get me wrong but bone hands down was more street hood gangster thuggish hustler inspired and drug dealer motivated.
But what is "gangster" though. Smh guns and killing bars. Krayzy was Leatherface with a sawed off 😂😂😂 they both was talking that shxt, Eiht just talking cause bone harmonized and most people going to look at it like that.
East 1999 is better then any album dogg pound made. Bone actually from Cleveland, and was really doing what they rapped about. Kurupt not from the west coast, and they wasn't really gangstas man stop the foolishness.
I’d pick Bone Thugs, DoggFood was good but at that time I’d heard way too much G Funk from Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg etc and other imitators but E1999 was fresh, it was Dark and was not the usual west coast sound I don’t even think I’d categorize it as “Gangster”
Krayzie Bone got so much better over the years hes definitely the Goat!!!!! He could take out the whole deathrow camp with pac .... nobody's on his level frfr!!....at 50 years old he still the goat.....pay attention frff..... look up Krayzie Bone you'll see!!!!!!!
I love Eiht but he's wrong Midwest gang shit is different from West Gang shit. They wear that Crip and Blood culture on their sleeve, Bone talks about gang element being in Cleveland mainly GDs and Vice Lords but they ran their own set (Trus) and did their own thing. Twista, Crucial, Psychodrama and Do or Die were definitely gangsta rappers they just didn't flaunt it and they spoke code.
I never bought Dogg Food but bought E 1999 Eternal. I consider both as hardcore hip hop. Being that Dogg Pound was on Death Row & with Snoop, it's easier to call it gangsta rap.
A lot of West Coast music was party music at the end of the day. Most East coast music wasn’t being played at parties besides DMX, Ja Rule and Busta Rhymes
I was a big 2Pac & Death Row fan, but what Bone Thugs did with the albums Creepin on ah Come up and East 1999 was unbelievable. The Dogg Pound track "Bomb azz Pussy" remains one of my favorite songs to this day
On The East Coast, our definition of gangster is somewhat different from the West Coast, now ask yourselves this, who is more gangster, dogg pound or M.O.P.
@@SMOOTHCUTPRODUCTION No doubt.. Understand that its not just the lyrics that make the songs Gangsta. Its the delivery and the beat. Naz smoked JZ on that diss tract. Mack 10 made back yard boogie that has no curse words or no violence. Back Door Boogie was a song made for the radio and it was more Gangsta than a legendary diss song from a legendary rapper.
B.G . Knocc Out & Dresta? MC Eiht & Tha Chill from Compton's Most Wanted? Big Tray Dee & Goldie Loc of Tha EastSidaz? South Central Cartel? The Hard Boyz? Three 6 Mafia? Ghetto Mafia?
The only difference between a thug and a gangster is ...the gangster went signed up.. got beat up ..got that Rag and got approved to be...and the thugs... like Trick Daddy and Bone said Fuk all that I'm got get this paper and do it without permission 😅😂
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's first few albums make Tha Dogg Pound albums look like pop albums! BTNH albums are way more street and HARDCORE than DPG. The both had and have their own lane. R.I.P. Eazy-E The Godfather of Gangster rap, without him, neither group would have popped off the way they did.
If u say gangster MC Eight is wrong. Dog Pound had some songs, lyrics about hoes,fuckin bitches as well as the " gangster shit. Bones just talked about killing people and selling dope. And getting drunk and high.
Both were beasts, Dogg Food top 5 album in my list of all time. West coast gangsta chit Killen it always. Bone creepin on a come up was fire, East 1999 could not compete with Dogg Food. I loved about half that album.. shouts to the double glock and DPG!
Bone thugs wasn't even gangsters! They were thugs!! Im glad bone thugs aint gangsters, bone thugs are real talent artists because they make all kinds of music
Gang Culture, Street Rap, and so on have always been considered Gangsta Rap. you could make a whole dance album rapping about gangsta walking and gang shit, it probably wouldn't be considered Gangsta Rap either due to the sound type.
Both are gangster to me. In different ways. Bone was midwest with a westcoast feel. They didn't claim b's or c's, but they claimed the bloc. East 99. That was the the uniqueness about the craft
Bone thugs never claimed to be gangsta they were THUGS! that is a difference.
EXACTLY! Huge difference.
@@ANT1989 tell em dawg...
Exactly
This comment
Big facts
East 1999 was "darker" dog food is more "street"
Perfectly said
Exactly. Right on the money.
East 1999 was gangster as it got just a lot of people don't know or need to know
Good assessment. Bone was on some ouiji board summoning the devil shyt
What I was gonna say
Dogg Food was a drinking and partying album. E.1999 was more dark and hood. Imo.
Knock it off
@eastwood1026 calm down honey, I said imo
Yeah but people partied in hood they song being play cards games,people hanging with females or both
@@EricConey-qt6ls E.1999 is a serious ass album lol. The only lighthearted song is Budsmoker's Only and maybe Buddah Lover. I would never play that album at a party with chicks lol
E999 was dark tho lol. Id play thwt sbit in halloween haha
You don’t have to be a blood or a crip to be a gangster,every gang member isn’t a gangster
Facts 💯
This is true
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True speaks
@@waynemartin5784 then they are not a gang member, although u can call yourself a gangster, don't mean u are a gangster
BoneThugs got actual real war stories going out doing missions and shit
Creepin On A Come Up was more West Coast Gangster than East 1999.
Their producer DJ Uneek is from the west coast.
N...a no surrender...............
Coming from CPT. Ya'll got me bumpin the East 99 album on Spotify 1995 good memories
Bone Thugs Harmony hands down in any conversation.
The world wasn't ready for Bone Thugs N Harmony's sound. They weren't GANGSTER, they were THUGS.
Gangster thugs its all the same I remember when I met bone when they 1st started and they were on the corner rapping and sale in stuff so what would you call it
Bruh, that's all I said. (See above)
@@dabatmaniamoutthed7975A gangster and a thug are 2 different things bubba
@@ogragan3492 not really bro a gangster a thug and also a hoodlum and hooligan are all in the same don’t know what time and era you’re from but you check your pass history the called the gangsters from 1920 on up all the same 🤷🏾♂️
@@dabatmaniamoutthed7975 Let me make this short sweet n simple... A gangster is some who is in a GANG, GANG-STER.... A thug is a guy thats heavy in the streets but not necessarily in a gang. They are not synonymous and not mutually exclusive. For instance, Daz n Kurupt were thugs who happened to be in a gang, so they could be considered both.... Alot of the Italian mobsters were gangsters but not thugs. Bone Thugs and Slim Thug live true to their name as street dudes but not gangsters.
Cleveland dude here. I STILL fw that DPG album, hard AF. But i think Bone is VERY underappreciated as is the city of Cleveland. S/O to my ftiends and family in the West and down south, but that midwest different.
I use to stay in Akron Ohio yes I heard a lot stories about bone they wasn't no joke
@@errintaylor3667 I know alot of ppl out that way. If I was on the Eastside I was in Goodyear heights off Eastland. Westside,over by ButchelbH H.S. And I was some years behind Bone, but I heard they was all over the place. Cleveland always been wild.
@@millardthomas9059what up homie, I’m from216. Bone is better than DPG, they needed Snoop, but Bone didn’t need Eazy to still be dope.
I’m from west Akron but when I delivered for Krispy Kreme to chilles on e 116th they would give me free food and tell Bone stories all the time. And u definitely right I’m 30 and ppl my age in Cleveland can’t sing one song off of e eternal 🥴🥴
Bone didn’t have one song about bitches only moanin at the end of love of money ..but they was a lil darker
Well, they had a track “ even the bitches carry guns “ that’s the closest I can remember
@@Andaraawoosiyyah damn that’s true
That song is called Land of the heartless nigga that was 1 bar in the hook not a song and its not a girl song at all @@Andaraawoosiyyah
@@MoneyAli75but that’s what separates them from the rest and makes them unique, their producer is named Dj unique, I didn’t intend that pun.
They didn't disrespect women in they music but they had a song abou hoes when they was kids on they first album faces of death 😂😂😂
Bone thugs was gangsta just not crips or bloods both Dogg pound and E1999 was classic gangsta shit. Eiht is wrong
100% Eiht is so extremely biased because HE was/is a Crip. Most DIDN’T say their gang’s name on wax @ the time, if they were, in fact, gangstas, because it doesn’t make financial sense to ostracize enemies of said gang & lose that potential income. Also, Bloods & Crips wasn’t the only gangs in America. I know that SEEMS obvious, but from conversations like this it doesn’t SEEM to BE. Bone may not claim an actual gang in their lyrics, but they say “me gang” more times than one can recall. So, they say this, but don’t mean they’re “gangsta,” they mean they’re only “street”?! This has gotta be one of THE DUUUUMBEST debates I’ve ever heard. I understand hip hop is all about being the best, but Eiht arguing this is no different than the East Coast saying, back in the day, how only real rappers came from there. It’s the same bs with EVERYTHING…I did this, came from this, belong to this so, BECAUSE of that, MY whatever is the biggest, baddest, hardest, best, “MORE GANGSTA”! I’ll tell you what it IS, the MOST RIDICULOUS!
Sounds like a hater.
They was never gangstas they was thugs.
That's exactly why Eiht is right. Bone thugs weren't gangbangers, but they were street AF. Bone thugs are my favorite artist period, but Eiht is right that they're not technically "gangsters". Bone thugs say that themselves, that they're just grimy thugs from a dirty neighborhood in Cleveland. Love Eiht too, and he's right. Same exact thing goes for operation stackola.
@@alanking3726 Bone thugs were gang bangers they banged wasteland which is their hood which used to be dominated by a gang called the dynamite devils but gang banging had been played out already in Cleveland before the media started putting bloods and crips on full display. If the brick city outlaws and dynamite devils would’ve kept pushing the line and reciting bone would’ve been dynamite devils.
For one Bone always made it clear that they weren't gangster and that they were thug niggas from the street they always said it in their music that their definition of thugs was diff from being considered gangsta
I agree with MC Eiht. Street & Gangsta is 2 different genres.
Rass Cass & Alkoholics was ‘Street’. South Central Cartel was “Gangsta”.
Yep Havikk The Rhimeson Is My Boss He Is A Real Deal G Havikk West
I can agree
@@errintaylor3667 the only havikk and prodege I know is from SCC.
Nobody every said btnh was more gangsta than dpound. You don't have to be a gangbanger to be a gangsta,mobsters aren't gangbanger.
@@sadetwizelveBone some real thugs they on business
Dog Food was damn near a perfect album on all levels.
E.1999 was a perfect album.
@@justinfuriated its definitely arguable on both albums. Sonically the production and as a rap fan, Dog Food is in my top ten all time. Eternal is definitely a classic but Dog Food may be my all time favorite release from Deathrow as far as replay value.
E. 1999 was a perfect album from beginning to end. Shit, even the booklet and actual cd was classic.
Bones 1999 repedative, same flow, everything sound similar.
Dogg food has everything ya could want.
Half of doggfood was strong. But I skip some songs. If it wasn't for dre putting the finishes touches on 3-4 of the best songs idk. And dre had his hands on some of them bom tracks no doubt
99 eternal had murder, guns, hustling,drugs, was a Gangster Album 4 Show
I think their definition of Gangster is you were reppin a gang, i.e. Crips, Bloods, G.D., ect.... Bone never said they were gangsters they always claim Thug Life. They had street music/hustle music. IMO
@@mayurikurotsuchi1527they did rep they repped the wasteland. Wasteland is a hood/ gang in the Glenville neighborhood in Cleveland, Ohio. There’s other gangs of that era like the Tribe, 7 All, S O Hells Kitchen, Kinsman County the Blade, Quincy CPK. Compound Killas, Wade Park Vice Lords and Road Doggs, I could keep going on and on just because they’re not saying blood or crop doesn’t mean they weren’t banging. Back in 1993/1994 u go over to the wasteland and see if they bang on you or not over there that shit wasn’t no joke over there. The Cleveland gang dynamic is different and smaller than LA Or Chicago at that time so Eiht wouldn’t understand it but now that them projects are torn down the chi is kinda like Cleveland with the exception the homegrown gang heartless felons isn’t subject to a area like west side, southside or projects it’s got members in essentially every hood.
I gotta disagree…if they talking about street shit that is gangsta shit. Gang bangers not the only gangstas in the world
They are definitely not more gangster than BONE and I seriously doubt Daz and Kurupt committed more crimes in real life.
I wouldnt consider mc eiht gangster and neither would real bangers from la but he made gangster music
@@1lifestyle112 he’s another dude that would get beat up easily on St. Clair, and would have to fall in line. None of that Compton gangsta shit would matter. Just a bunch of black ass ninjas in a predominantly black ass city like Cleveland is what you have to deal with.
mc eiht not gangster? hes a tragniew park compton crip lol
You fools got the game twisted, dogg pound were gangstas who happen to rap, bone was not. There's a different between street mf's and official gangstas in a official gang
Love both albums, but as far as which one is better? E.1999 hands down. That’s a top 5 album from 1995. Dogg Food is a classic but it’s no E.1999 Eternal.
Its pretty simple: Bone were THUGS, not gangsters.
Bloods and Crips are thugs, not gangsters.
Makes sense
@@chadtep7571 Some Crips are Gangsters, some Crips are Hoodstas
@@chadtep7571Blood and Crips are gangsters. Where do you think the word gangster comes from. From the word "gang". Y'all act like you know but you don't. Faking the Funk.
Bone ain't Gangsters, they are Trues Humbly United Gathering Souls or as I like to say Trues Humbly Uniting God's Soldiers
Aint no difference between gangbanging and blockbanging other than attaching the gang name to the block
I'm from Oakland and spent TIIIME in L.A county ...the difference is 85 percent of hoods in Oakland far as blocks...we don't have a specific sworn enemy to where we can make up name and diss they WHOLE hood...but got be ready for anyone.. anything...at any time that's the difference..ain't no Specific beefs!!
Cleveland is different Cleveland gangbang, Hood bang and Block bang.
For example
You might find a Heartless felon and Bounty Hunter Blood from the same street off of let’s say 10-5 st Clair. The felons gang is gonna come first because it’s home grown but block first for the Bounty Bunter blood because it’s more felons in the city n they can’t war with them so that takes precedence. So now you got the street or area. The hood is called wasteland but the street might be called Garfield or Empire.
Empire or Garfield might be beefing with Morrison because it’s crips on that street but they might have to come together to fight crips from let’s set Kinsman ( not saying that it’s still crips over there) or possibly a felon from Cedar.
So that’s the dynamic of how Cleveland was.
You could bang wasteland, 10-5 and your street Garfield and your actual gang depending on your location.
So you could be beefing with a whole different neighborhood like let’s say East Cleveland, you could be beefing with a guy on your OWN street in a different gang, a guy from your hood on a different street and more than likely in a different gang and this is what made Cleveland so confusing, dangerous and no real presence of logic term Gangs.
That's a helluva argument (BOTH BANG HARD)
There's a difference between cali gangsta and Cleveland gangsta. Bone obviously adopted the west coast fashion from eazy e but they are not gang related, they were hustlin thugs. bone was on their own sounds E.1999 Cleveland thug style.
You don’t have to be a blood or crip to be a gangster
@@1lifestyle112 I know, I stay in Carson. I grew up listening to bone since faces of death but also listened to doggpound. Was just saying bone don't care about gangsta shit, they never once mentioned anything gangsta in any songs, they were about dark shit and thuggin. Cleveland is on whole different level.
Not really they cities on blocks ala similar to gangs bone reps e.88th to 105nd on St.Clair
Bone didn't adopt anything from Eazy. Bone brought a whole new style to the game, mixing rap with harmony. Singing and raping was they thing. They was more street then gangsta. More artists then rappers.
@tj5579 What I said was all facts
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Eternal and Dogg Food are two of my favourite albums but I don't think I've ever considered either gangster.
As others have pointed out, Bone were Thugs, so their whole hustle and grind was different.
Kurupt spent most of the album talking about his lyrical prowess rather than gang banging
Bone thugs never even called themselves gangster rap. They did their own style and flavor. But coming out with Eazy e and being influenced by NWA they got lumped into the gangster rap genre
Both were equally in rotation during my hit a lick everyday phase
Dogg pound album was a more gangsta album but e. 1999 was a better album if that makes sense. I I luv both albums. I just think eternal was a tighter album
You deaf in both ears
Makes plenty sense. East 1999 Eternal is one of the greatest albums in any genre.
I would considered it a tie
@@brian519💯
🤣🤣🤣 You are bonkers!
TWISTA was gangsta but you wouldn’t know what he talking about if you ain’t from here crucial conflict and psycho drama do or die always spoke on gangsta shit all through the music vice lord shit
How about Oceanside, California GD Rap artist Bishop Snow or Montgomery, Alabama GD Rap duo Dirty (aka Dirtyboyz) consisting of Big Pimp and Mr. G Stacka the Gangsta???
Fax!!!
@@ChiraqMaybach-ii9wm I forgot about Flint, Michigan Rap groups The Dayton Family (GDs) and Top Authority, as well as early 1990s Atlanta, Georgia Gangster Rap group the Hard Boyz and Decatur, Georgia Rap group Ghetto Mafia (Gangsta Nino & Wicked)
I don't think a lot of people outside of Chicago know about Psychodrama like that & CC were didn't really have much success after The Final Tic. I wouldn't say DOD had a lot of success after Headz or Tailz either tbh.
@@angelicsoulz Chicago had a LOT of VL Gangster Rap groups in the 1990s.
Do or Die, Crucial Conflict, Psychodrama, etc.
Half of Dogg Pound is from PHILLY
Right LOL
From Philly, yes, but California style. Kurrupt spoke on gang banging not Philadelphia living. So in essence he is a Californian. 😎🎭✌️
@@stevenotero2627 True
I’m so tired of hearing this who cares where he is born he represents Cali. He says so himself. His style, everything about him is West Coast.
@@joshuaakers8645Right, same with xzibit and Pac
Dogg Pound never harmonized.... But still kept it Gangsta. Bone Thugs had the best album. To rap fast, it takes time to do that. They executed with a dope style that's why EAZY E signed them!!!!
It’s like this. Bone had Eazy E for less than a year to help promote their music with DJ uneek as producer. Dogg pound had Snoop, Dre, pac, suge knight, Warren G and Nate dogg. Bone made a fast impact world wide not just the US. Dogg pound primarily talked about getting women and Bone talked about murder primarily. bone rarely talked and getting girls and having sex and taking someone’s woman. Dogg pound was good don’t get me wrong but bone hands down was more street hood gangster thuggish hustler inspired and drug dealer motivated.
WOULD MC EIGHT SAY THAT SHIT TO ICE -T ??? ICE-T NEVER CLAIMED A SET ON RECORD ?
But what is "gangster" though. Smh guns and killing bars. Krayzy was Leatherface with a sawed off 😂😂😂 they both was talking that shxt, Eiht just talking cause bone harmonized and most people going to look at it like that.
East 1999 was dark street rap but the dogg is consider gangster
White boy looks nervous 😆 🤣
Didn't notice
he chill tho
I know it's his platform. But why TF is he even in the conversation??? Imagine a bank teller trying to chime in and tell you what's gangster. FOH.
They are both good
East 1999 is better then any album dogg pound made. Bone actually from Cleveland, and was really doing what they rapped about. Kurupt not from the west coast, and they wasn't really gangstas man stop the foolishness.
Down ’71 (The Getaway) - That right there say it all.
East 1999 was closer to horrorcore rap dogg food jus west coast vibe
The game is to be sold not told at the end of the day frfr
bone thugs was a lil diabolical
Commercially / Hood vibes Tha Dogg pound Dog Food Album. But Commercially / Underrated Classic And Styles New At That Time Bone Thugs East 1999
That Dog Food album is top 20 best albums of all time hands down
It can be argued e.1999 is #1. It's that good.
I’d pick Bone Thugs, DoggFood was good but at that time I’d heard way too much G Funk from Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg etc and other imitators but E1999 was fresh, it was Dark and was not the usual west coast sound I don’t even think I’d categorize it as “Gangster”
Bone thugs is "from the streets" more then most "gangsta rappers."
I think their topic should be more on which album was considered gang bangin music vs gangster music
That dogg food album doesn't get the flowers it deserves
Tha Dogg Pound had gangsta music. Bone Thugs N Harmony had thug music. Dogg Food and E 1999 Eternal are both classic Hip Hop/Rap albums.
Bone "THUGS"......Dogg Pound "GANGSTAZ" both are banged heavy in the hood
Bonethugs 4sure
Krayzie Bone got so much better over the years hes definitely the Goat!!!!! He could take out the whole deathrow camp with pac .... nobody's on his level frfr!!....at 50 years old he still the goat.....pay attention frff..... look up Krayzie Bone you'll see!!!!!!!
One time I was like “gankstaz! What’s up?” after I got my fake i.d.
I love Eiht but he's wrong Midwest gang shit is different from West Gang shit. They wear that Crip and Blood culture on their sleeve, Bone talks about gang element being in Cleveland mainly GDs and Vice Lords but they ran their own set (Trus) and did their own thing. Twista, Crucial, Psychodrama and Do or Die were definitely gangsta rappers they just didn't flaunt it and they spoke code.
The whole e.99 album was a shoutout to theyre gang.
I never bought Dogg Food but bought E 1999 Eternal. I consider both as hardcore hip hop. Being that Dogg Pound was on Death Row & with Snoop, it's easier to call it gangsta rap.
Gangster vs Gangbanger = Totally Different !! (1 is not seen and 1 wants to be seen) ~ 💯
I just stopped by to say DPGC.. 💪🏿
Luniz and Bone have gangster rap songs and can be placed in that category.
How many albums did the dog pound put out where do you think they got the name dog pound from
Dogg Pound hands down
A lot of West Coast music was party music at the end of the day. Most East coast music wasn’t being played at parties besides DMX, Ja Rule and Busta Rhymes
and 50
Ohio is not east coast smh ya'll dudes need to stop with this narrative
I was a big 2Pac & Death Row fan, but what Bone Thugs did with the albums Creepin on ah Come up and East 1999 was unbelievable. The Dogg Pound track "Bomb azz Pussy" remains one of my favorite songs to this day
Two awesome albums. Can't put one over the other 😊
SMHHHH....the semantics in this interview is too much. MC Eight is trying too hard
Ironically my 2 favorite groups at the time
Id have to say Spice 1 makes them 2 crews sound like back up rappers lmao id consider him, street, hood and just damn right gansta asf lmao blawww
Crucial Conflict Album was Gangster... They was spitting lit.. Vice Lords
On The East Coast, our definition of gangster is somewhat different from the West Coast, now ask yourselves this, who is more gangster, dogg pound or M.O.P.
very good question! MOP and Mobb Deep are real Gangster niggas! Tha Dogg Pound aint close!
Bone Thugs was the Shit but aint no rap group mo Gangsta than the DPG other than maybe the East Sidas
I think everybody got a valid argument here
@@SMOOTHCUTPRODUCTION No doubt.. Understand that its not just the lyrics that make the songs Gangsta. Its the delivery and the beat. Naz smoked JZ on that diss tract. Mack 10 made back yard boogie that has no curse words or no violence. Back Door Boogie was a song made for the radio and it was more Gangsta than a legendary diss song from a legendary rapper.
B.G . Knocc Out & Dresta? MC Eiht & Tha Chill from Compton's Most Wanted? Big Tray Dee & Goldie Loc of Tha EastSidaz? South Central Cartel? The Hard Boyz? Three 6 Mafia? Ghetto Mafia?
@@Mr.Majestic77 You talking about single artist opposed to talking about group. The Easidaz the only ones messin with the DPGs on some Gangsta shit.
Eastsidaz definitely
BONE WAS THUGS NOT GANGSTERS. END OF CONVO.
The only difference between a thug and a gangster is ...the gangster went signed up.. got beat up ..got that Rag and got approved to be...and the thugs... like Trick Daddy and Bone said Fuk all that I'm got get this paper and do it without permission 😅😂
Tha Dogg Pound 4ever
1:15 nobody said btnh more ANYTHING,haterrrr
Thanks 4 telling these 2 unknown music critics what gangster rap is.
Soren Baker is an unknown music critic?
Good work 8 og DDOG Compton Thang
East 1999 was a way better album than the Dog Pound album.
Hell no..Dogg Pound album still in rotation..Niggas rarely listen to bone now..White people love them tho
Arguably!
E.1999 out sold the DP album my a million copies. It’s not even comparable at this point. Both albums were great but bone changed the entire rap game.
Bone never claimed to be gangstas, they were thugs, there's a big difference.
I think bone thugs members were actually more in the streets than daz or kurupt.
Love both albums but E. 1999 Eternal was on another level
Bone Thugs is versatile they can do what u wanna do overall doe ...
Daz and Kurupt are actual gang members who make music you can C-Walk to
i always found that the real dudes aint the 1s who spitting murder kill death😂😂 figure they'd wanna talk about something different 🤷🏿
Daz is not a crip. Kutupt is not a crip. they were studio gangtsas
@@dianevrules you sure?
They're both crips......relax@@dianevrules
kurupt from philly though
Dog pound……….”Reality”🔥🔥
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's first few albums make Tha Dogg Pound albums look like pop albums! BTNH albums are way more street and HARDCORE than DPG. The both had and have their own lane. R.I.P. Eazy-E The Godfather of Gangster rap, without him, neither group would have popped off the way they did.
If u say gangster MC Eight is wrong. Dog Pound had some songs, lyrics about hoes,fuckin bitches as well as the " gangster shit. Bones just talked about killing people and selling dope. And getting drunk and high.
Both were beasts, Dogg Food top 5 album in my list of all time. West coast gangsta chit Killen it always. Bone creepin on a come up was fire, East 1999 could not compete with Dogg Food. I loved about half that album.. shouts to the double glock and DPG!
👌🏿PASADENA ON DA CHECK IN
Yeah dog pound is gangster know I ain't going to lie man that that whole CD was off the chain all the songs only every song on it was a hit
There were shots @ bone thugs n harmony on the first track “ ain’t got no love for hoes n harmony “ though both parties are cool now
Bone thugs wasn't even gangsters! They were thugs!! Im glad bone thugs aint gangsters, bone thugs are real talent artists because they make all kinds of music
Gangsters .... Do Not .... wear Flags in their Pockets !! Facts !! ~ 🌎 .... 📰
Bone all day
Eiht from the west, when I was in the military talking to people from other areas I was like eiht and others didn’t get it.
Dang that"s a good one
Gang Culture, Street Rap, and so on have always been considered Gangsta Rap. you could make a whole dance album rapping about gangsta walking and gang shit, it probably wouldn't be considered Gangsta Rap either due to the sound type.
What is the criteria of Gangster Rap? Does the person literally have to be speaking about being in a gang or L.A gang life in particular?
If you ain't got that rag 😂😅... you ain't NO Gangsta 😂
Both are gangster to me. In different ways. Bone was midwest with a westcoast feel. They didn't claim b's or c's, but they claimed the bloc. East 99. That was the the uniqueness about the craft
Ion no bout being gangsta but thugs are g.o.a.t
Shout out to the LIKS so underrated
I agree with Eiht 💯💯