Thanks rob to defend as well the art of movie making, movies and everybody who is trying to achieve something greather then themselves trough art. Following you since the pandemic and as a wanna be amateurish filmaker but most certainly a film/tv student and lover, I thank you a lot for all this channel great work!
Cried my eyes out watching Star Trek II this week. That will stay with me. Thank you, Uncle Rob, for staying positive in this world and staying positive towards cinema. You inspire us! AND!!!! Please release those interviews with Diane Duane and David Mack!!
I love Ramblin Rob. You ramble so much you called deadpool, daredevil and didn't notice😂. I don't even get excited for my favorite podcasts anymore. I just put you on.
Great show Rob, Great topic. I believe you are totally correct, because when they announce their going to put a movie on streaming 30 days after it hits the theater, why go to the theater? I think the current movie structure is dead. 😮
"One of the signs of a great society is the diligence with which it passes culture from one generation to the next. When one generation no longer passes on the things that are dear to it -- it's heroes and their stories in its religious faith -- it's in effect saying that the past is null and void. It's of no value. That leaves young people feeling a lack of direction and a lack of purpose, and opens them to the dictum of Karl Marx -- that our people, deprived of their history, are easily persuaded." -- Winston Churchill
You know what warms my heart, Rob? These lines "You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards, they'll race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall but in time, they will join you in the Sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders." This is a father being encouraging to his son. That's powerful and positive in ways you do not understand, perhaps.
I’m rambling but Justine Bateman said on Film Threat “ why make 5 movies and make X -amount when you can make 1 movie and make almost a billion” ! She was a lot more eloquent but it’s greed over art !
I wish pro Wrestling was dying like people say the theatrical movie experience is on its death bed. Wrestling is childish, staged, never evolved into something interesting, and can't even depend on sex completely these days as a gimmick. I have no idea why Wrestlemania still sells tickets much less does well on On Demand. The only thing good about it is that we wouldn't have movies like The Wrestler without pro wrestling.
Well said, Rob. You made me reflect on the impact on films made today verses back then; as a young film fan, it moved me. I think certain films that try to have an impact will have to be controversial. ‘Barbie’ was talked for a while after me and my sisters debated over its themes while ‘Megalopolis’ was bananas and I think of that film an example of original films from today. If people want original movies from great filmmakers, well, there’s always ‘Megalopolis’, but if they’re not into looking for original, independent, or international cinema while complaining about Hollywood movies these days, then they don’t like films I guess - I don’t know. By the way, I love ‘The Emigrants’ and ‘The New Land’ too.
As someone who is a fan of Zack Snyder's DC movies, I get what Rob is saying. I think Snyder's intentions were good but he chose to tell a Superman story through a very dark lense. Hope was always the underlying theme throughout the movies but it wasn't without putting Cavill's Superman through the wringer and it wasn't always pretty to watch. Watching Batman beat the crap out of him in BvS was admittedly "mean spirited" but I think there was a point to it. It was to show how dark and cynical our world had become and what our world would do to someone as altruistic as Superman. We would literally tear him down, or try to. The problem, is people don't really want to watch that. They don't want brutal realism in their Superman movies. We don't mind seeing Superman go through trials and tribulations (like it seems like we will see in Gunn's movie) but it should be through a more hopeful and fun filter rather than the heavy metal filter Snyder used. But like Rob often says, I personally love the epic, heavy metal, operatic vibe of the Snyder trilogy but I totally get why most didn't. I'm ready for more fun and hopeful optimism, especially in this post covid world we live in.
I really enjoyed this conversation overall. My honest opinion as a lover of film and as a fierce debater who sucks at debating, who always was on the side of movies are more than movies they are commenting on life and the human condition to people who always tell me "its just a movie" or "its just a tv show". Im also a believer in movie magic and just certain films have something extra about them thats cinema+ sort of speak. My honest opinion is that we are not in a place as a society to accept movie commentary anymore. We think we know it all, we think we have a grip on whats right and if the trump elections said anything about america its that it wants more of a traditionist commentary from all media. I think its reductive, and its motovated by fear of what we know needs to change in our society and our denial of the truth that has been self evident for decades. That the very movies we praise has been showing us. Right now we are in the age of people praising fight club and robert deniro's character in taxi driver. The luigi incident thats happening right now is confirmation of that fact. Its also confirmation of what movies like the joker and joker 2 touched on. We are coming to the revolutionary age and its possible that movies that me and rob and others idolize were probably agead of their time. As the human condition is more than ever being scrutinized and criticized. With discussions that fresh and fit and others facilitate like "you wouldnt be a single mom if you did x,y and z in the past" like we all live life in foresight and perfectly. I would argue that anora would not have done well with todays audience. The only fans model that is having sex with 100 guys, now 1000 guys and having a documentary about it and the audience reaction to it says it all. We havent progressed as a society at all when it comes to the topics that anora brings up. If anything, they would be behind the parents of the boy in anora if not criticizing the parents for allowing things to get this far. We just are not the same audience that are in awe and curious about life anymore like we were when the first star wars came out and shawshank etc.
I agree, and we share a similar childhood with movies and interests, I was the kid with an 8-millimeter camera wanting to make the next great sci-fi movie. (It never happened). I loved sci-fi and fantasy but I also loved everything I could see. I remember the first time as a kid seeing On the Waterfront, and I was blown away. As a teen started to explore Asian films, I saw the Seven Samiria and then had to see everything by Akira Kurosawa. In college European films were added to the buffet. I have enjoyed so many movies over the years, and I have been thrilled to see so many things that I never thought I would see, Marvel shared universe that culminated in Infinite War and End Game was an amazing experience. However, it gets harder and harder to have a new or amazing experience when watching a movie. I end up being more and more critical because everything feels like a remake, revision or repeat of what has already come. The need for fan-service and easter eggs drives me crazy. Aliens Romulus basically takes all the previous movies and cuts parts from them and resembles them into one movie. It actually repeats lines from previous movie. The dependence on nostalgia makes everything like a 2 hour Deja Vu.
I saw the Tarantino clip last week and I was really hoping you would see and at least discuss this Rob, and I’m so elated that you have. I like how Tarantino made the contrast with a season of a Taylor Sheridan show, where their plots is usually muddle with mellow drama ending with seasons that can be looked at as, well a dose of empty calories until the next season’s fix (I found this very true and I like some of Sheridan’s shows). Unlike season 1 of Homeland (which I still think about till this day) could be looked as a complete story with a ending that really stick with you and leave you with something resonating.
But also anora, is the story of why as a parent, you don't let your 18 year old boy go to the strip club when you raised him rich and sheltered. You don't let him travel with no strict system to who and where he checks in at. That boy had way too loose of boundaries and it almost seemed like he didn't have any parents.
Most films have unfortunately become just like everything else... easily consumable by the masses and disposable. It's rare that I see a film that is thought-provoking and really sticks with me long after it's over.
Exactly, for all this posturing about how Snyder was screwed and WB interfered with his vision, at the end of the day he got to make 3 movies, when it comes to big-budget blockbusters, most directors get one f*ck up then they're out the door, Snyder got 3 chances and failed each time. And even after that got to make 2 Star Wars knock-offs that failed even harder. Let's move onto some of the other great talent out there, James Gunn's Superman and the people making the other movies, not to mention all the great up and coming talent that might be the next Gunn, or even Nolan or Villeneuve
1:16:34 but the problem with that is that we are not raising up anymore Tom Hanks like actors. All of these new actors coming up, LGBT+ and hetero etc. are not being adequately tried and tested to where they can take over a tom Hanks role and the LGBT+ can have their representation. There are too many LGBT+ actors in Hollywood to not satisfy the request that someone of their community represent them on film in order to give kids and other people some hope that they too can be on big screens and know that they matter and are seen. We don't need Tom Hanks playing the millions of roles out there, we need multiple Tom Hanks of all walks of life to have the chance to be Tom Hanks. That's the point. Of course we know he's an actor and he can do it all. He has done it all, bossom buddies was great. But let's look for more up coming actors and actresses and give them a chance to be Tom Hanks as well.
1:55:25 whoever said that comment about DC not being able to do respect to superman hasnt seen superman and lois, smallvile and the DCAU's superman the animated series as well as the first two christopher reeve superman movies. WB can do superman, they are just lost right now and hopefully james gunn can right the ship. I have faith in Gunn, what hes doing with creature commandos is great. Let the man cook and judge what he cooks like chefs in real life.
Not just movies, but Art in general. We live in a Corporatocracy, which I believe is the inevitable end result of capitalism. As such, only art with a high monetary value is lauded and given the right to exist in said society. What we’re left with is empty and middling, as meaningful Art and commerce often don’t mix.
GOT was not a streaming show. It was released week to week. Better examples of streaming shows going in one ear and out the other are any marvel or Star Wars shows on D+ and Rings or power and Fallout.
MR. ROBERT MEYER BURNETT's RANTS are the best!! He/You should really consider your next AUDIO BOOK of nothing but ROBERT MEYER BURNETT's RANTS and the total incompetence of the current day HOLLYWOOD!. Call it 'ROBERT RANTS'!!! and with your/his knowledge in the industry it would be not only funny but very insightful at the same time.- J.D. Watkins
Gunn's Superman movie is the first one in a long time I'm going to see in theater regardless of reviews. For me, it's not streaming but selfish behavior by theater patrons that keeps me away. I usually wait a few weeks and watch an early weekday matinee to see a movie.
The Robert zemeckis film "here" - I really enjoyed and it got crapped on in the reviews. I went to see it in the theaters and my theater was in tears. Another movie like anora that didn't get a lot of recognition but it's definitely rated horribly on rotten tomatoes. I think it's gonna be one of those films the ages well.
Happy you brought up the Avery Tarantino interview....streaming shows are not movies! If you asked me what happened on the second season of Orange is the New Black I have no idea. I can quote the Big Lebowski verbatim.
Yep.... Take your favorite song and make it 20 minutes longer .... You won't listen to it as much and will eventually stop caring. Making something a lot longer has the effect of dulling it's emotional impact.
I think the reason disney had the billion dollar movies this year as opposed to last year is that people loved the originals and saw no Hollywood "message" in the films. In other words, at least half the audience felt they could go in and see the film without being told they are the worst people on earth. Had Inside Out 2 had "the message" in it , Moana 2 would have definitely failed at the theater, and possibly Deadpool & Wolverine as well. There are movies that you expect to have a message front and center in. Inside Out and it's sequel you expect a story related to the perspective of a young girl, but you don't expect to have it promote "all men suck," or, had they done what was a rumored plan, "all straight people are homophobes." With the success of the sequels this year, and adding the results of the election in America and many around the world, people are saying give me good stories without these nonsense agendas. It seems from what I'm hearing Hollywood is hearing them. We'll see in 2025. I just hope most people realize that movies take time to make so the early 2025 movies may have already been made before Hollywood got the message from us, the audience.
There's nothing wrong with having a message in a movie. It's just that it shouldn't be the most important thing in a film. Also, Disney basically remakes their animated fare that I couldn't care about.
100% agree. Nobody minds adding some stuff related to current social issues if it’s a good story. You definitely can’t get away with it if it’s not a good story tho because it feels preachy. There is a scene in Avengers Endgame where a man is talking to Captain America about dating another man after the Thanos snap and I don’t think the audience really felt that it was preachy at all. It was just naturally & casually embedded into the story because some people have same sex relationships in real life and it’s not unusual. In contrast, Nick Fury randomly yelling “Black girl magic!” in The Marvels as that one lady took off flying, seemed very forced and it really took me out of the vibe of the movie mentally. Another example of it being used well was in the Captain America and Winter Soldier series where Sam was having to come to terms with being a Black man who is supposed to represent America. To me this didn’t feel forced at all because that is a natural thing that would actually happen in similar situation in real life. Plus the rest of the story was good.
Pointless putting political messages in entertainment. It's much easier to pay off politicians, tv talking heads and podcasters if you want to get things done. 😂
@ lol I think it used to be a lot more effective back in the day before people got tired of it. Nowdays celebrity endorsements also don’t really do anything because they were overused. I wasn’t really talking about its effectiveness though in my comment, I was just referring to the situations in which an audience will tolerate it.
Rob, I love listening to you and through you I have expanded my Physical media collection. By the way I got the Three Colours Trilogy on bluray which I got introduced through you from your previous video. I do have a question. I am trying to search that movie that Major Cha Cha recommend you. Could you give me that name again? I want to look at purchasing a physical media copy. Also everything you said about the new Superman movie is right on target!🎯💯 And Star Trek The Motion Picture is my favorite Star Trek film as well. Have a great day Rob and everyone here!
@@aryaman98 I'm interested in what part of the female gaze you don't agree with when it comes to substance. From what I have seen, what they are saying with that movie pretty much tracks.
1:01:32....anora was a good movie but I didn't get anything from that movie. Other than the director has a huge crush on that actress. It was a good movie. But it didn't give me anything to take and apply to my life. I'm already pretty human to sex workers in a world that is wildly inhuman towards them which I think was the overall message of that movie.
1:32:30 I was kind of disgusted by how many people complained about your trailer resction stream, and "not getting to the point." Probably the same people that will watch gamers stream games for hours on end. These people are culturally bankrupt and do not understand the value a person like you has, with all your experiences and insights.
That’s very kind of you to say. Many thanks. I can’t fault the audience for wanting what they want, and with many new subscribers, many aren’t familiar with my format, especially because they don’t know who I am yet. I’m certainly not to everyone’s taste.
I hate to say it but fucking video games and the culture is also ruining the cultural impact of film these days. I still don't get why people, even young people wanna play something instead of watching a good story play out! I can understand if the competitive spirit, maybe even learning how to develop a sense of strategy or even good reflexes can be developed from playing video games. But in reality most gamers are dopes and in my estimation have little motivation or inspiration for creativity. Not as much as potential filmmakers. I'm sorry if gamers have a problem with that!
Because you get to be apart of the story. But I don't think video games have anything to do with it. Video games are telling good stories these days, the kingdom hearts games, the God of war games, the final fantasy games. All good stories where you get to be apart of as opposed to just watching it.
Sorry Rob but your argument that sequels can’t leave a big impact on the viewer because they know what they’re getting is total nonsense. Wrath of Khan, Dark Knight, Return of the King, Empire Strikes Back, Winter Soldier, Infinity War/Endgame, Bourme Ultimatum, Evil Dead 2 etc etc the list could go on. Based on your logic, you’re saying that audiences knew what to expect when going into these films? Countless examples of sequels that are superior and also offer different and better experiences to the originals. The issue is simply the quality of sequels we are getting currently rather than the fact that they are sequels.
You are wild sir....there are some good movies out there. To your point about batman....so because someone did one idea, they should never do it again??
At the 21:22 mark; AMADEUS is THEE GREATEST film(not movie) in cinematic HISTORY!- James D. Watkins, artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS. (Quote/Dialogue from this MASTERPIECE: Priest: "All men are created equal in GOD'S eyes"......Salieri: "Are they?")
It's a great movie but you don't watch many movies if you think that's the greatest movie in history. Now, if you rephrased that's the move you love the most... there's a difference, you know? One is objective, the other is subjective. You can do whatever you want with the subjective, but not the other way around.
@alexandresobreiramartins9461 First Ms. Alexandre, AMADEUS is a FILM! Not a movie. BIG difference. Second - AMADEUS touches and reaches on different levels; Being holy and asking God to be a better artist, person, successful, etc. only to see firsthand the Mediocre of our society appear to be 'blessed' with what YOU prayed for just like ANTONIO SALIERI prayed. Another point of levels; Stop looking and worrying about other people's endeavors and YOU should focus on your own advancements and talents and gifts - just like ANTONIO SALIERI did. Another point of levels; Like the immortal dialogue in the beginning of this FILM - Priest; "All men are equal in God's eyes", SALIERI: "Are they?" - That little bit of dialogue is not only EXTREMELY PROFOUND but it speaks VOLUMES about the possibility of how a supernatural Being could make and see the human race because MOZART was/is Head & Shoulders above most prodigies and why is that, Ms. Alexandre? Another point of levels; Is it possible that a powerful artistic and creative prodigy burnout at certain ages occurs? Another point of levels; - A.I. (Artistic Immortality) - That's what the FILM AMADEUS represents to all of our artists. Now, please go back and watch the movie TRANSFORMERS or The Fast & The Furious. - James D Watkins artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.
Uh Game of Thrones wasn't a streaming show why would you use this as an example? You are 100 % accurate on this take but you should have used The Witcher or Stranger Things as your example
Thanks rob to defend as well the art of movie making, movies and everybody who is trying to achieve something greather then themselves trough art.
Following you since the pandemic and as a wanna be amateurish filmaker but most certainly a film/tv student and lover, I thank you a lot for all this channel great work!
I wish I could talk for 3.5 hours about literally anything
You can do it!
Former teacher here. Interest in and knowledge of the subject matter is key. Once you embarrass yourself 100x, public speaking is a breeze.
@@playedout148I can certainly vouch for that…!
Cried my eyes out watching Star Trek II this week. That will stay with me. Thank you, Uncle Rob, for staying positive in this world and staying positive towards cinema. You inspire us!
AND!!!! Please release those interviews with Diane Duane and David Mack!!
I love Ramblin Rob. You ramble so much you called deadpool, daredevil and didn't notice😂. I don't even get excited for my favorite podcasts anymore. I just put you on.
Great show Rob, Great topic. I believe you are totally correct, because when they announce their going to put a movie on streaming 30 days after it hits the theater, why go to the theater? I think the current movie structure is dead. 😮
I love these long versions of Robservations, it’s late in NY when you “do it Live “ but I look forward to my Saturday morning coffee & Lego with you !
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU ROB AND EVERYONE READING THIS 💪🏻💪🏾💯🎄
Same to you and yours, Merry Christmas!
Robert off subject I rewatched shoot em up the other night. One of my fun favorite films and noticed you did the special features. Awesome.
Rob knowing about Fresh and Fit is quite the crossover
I cast a wide TH-cam net.
The movies that moved me, The insider, My dinner with Andre, Ben Hur (Heston), Das Boot...
Anora was a wonderful film.
"One of the signs of a great society is the diligence with which it passes culture from one generation to the next. When one generation no longer passes on the things that are dear to it -- it's heroes and their stories in its religious faith -- it's in effect saying that the past is null and void. It's of no value. That leaves young people feeling a lack of direction and a lack of purpose, and opens them to the dictum of Karl Marx -- that our people, deprived of their history, are easily persuaded." -- Winston Churchill
You know what warms my heart, Rob?
These lines
"You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards, they'll race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall but in time, they will join you in the Sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders."
This is a father being encouraging to his son. That's powerful and positive in ways you do not understand, perhaps.
Dude bro, I can listen to you all day. It seems that in end, it is streaming that is killing film. It's all content now.
I’m rambling but Justine Bateman said on Film Threat “ why make 5 movies and make X -amount when you can make 1 movie and make almost a billion” ! She was a lot more eloquent but it’s greed over art !
Justine Bateman is a pro Jan6th fascist. I pretty much ignore everything she says.
@@juniorjangles7655🤦♂️
Ok ?
Get Out cost 5M$ and made 250M$. Problem with chasing a billion is it costs 100 to 300M$.
A scene that lives with me is when Michael becomes “The Don” , they’re kissing his hand and they close the door on Kay !
I wish pro Wrestling was dying like people say the theatrical movie experience is on its death bed. Wrestling is childish, staged, never evolved into something interesting, and can't even depend on sex completely these days as a gimmick. I have no idea why Wrestlemania still sells tickets much less does well on On Demand. The only thing good about it is that we wouldn't have movies like The Wrestler without pro wrestling.
Well said, Rob. You made me reflect on the impact on films made today verses back then; as a young film fan, it moved me. I think certain films that try to have an impact will have to be controversial. ‘Barbie’ was talked for a while after me and my sisters debated over its themes while ‘Megalopolis’ was bananas and I think of that film an example of original films from today. If people want original movies from great filmmakers, well, there’s always ‘Megalopolis’, but if they’re not into looking for original, independent, or international cinema while complaining about Hollywood movies these days, then they don’t like films I guess - I don’t know. By the way, I love ‘The Emigrants’ and ‘The New Land’ too.
Also, aren’t some of the greatest films of all time were controversial at one point?
What a epic stream! Sending those daily positive vibes from Houston everyone!
Have a lovely day, fellow connoisseur.
Dude I watched Gladiator II at home in 4k on the 21st of December 😂
Music, books...everything!
As someone who is a fan of Zack Snyder's DC movies, I get what Rob is saying. I think Snyder's intentions were good but he chose to tell a Superman story through a very dark lense. Hope was always the underlying theme throughout the movies but it wasn't without putting Cavill's Superman through the wringer and it wasn't always pretty to watch. Watching Batman beat the crap out of him in BvS was admittedly "mean spirited" but I think there was a point to it. It was to show how dark and cynical our world had become and what our world would do to someone as altruistic as Superman. We would literally tear him down, or try to.
The problem, is people don't really want to watch that. They don't want brutal realism in their Superman movies. We don't mind seeing Superman go through trials and tribulations (like it seems like we will see in Gunn's movie) but it should be through a more hopeful and fun filter rather than the heavy metal filter Snyder used.
But like Rob often says, I personally love the epic, heavy metal, operatic vibe of the Snyder trilogy but I totally get why most didn't. I'm ready for more fun and hopeful optimism, especially in this post covid world we live in.
Thanks for getting the Arthur theme stuck in my head.. Happy Holidays
I really enjoyed this conversation overall. My honest opinion as a lover of film and as a fierce debater who sucks at debating, who always was on the side of movies are more than movies they are commenting on life and the human condition to people who always tell me "its just a movie" or "its just a tv show". Im also a believer in movie magic and just certain films have something extra about them thats cinema+ sort of speak.
My honest opinion is that we are not in a place as a society to accept movie commentary anymore. We think we know it all, we think we have a grip on whats right and if the trump elections said anything about america its that it wants more of a traditionist commentary from all media. I think its reductive, and its motovated by fear of what we know needs to change in our society and our denial of the truth that has been self evident for decades. That the very movies we praise has been showing us. Right now we are in the age of people praising fight club and robert deniro's character in taxi driver. The luigi incident thats happening right now is confirmation of that fact. Its also confirmation of what movies like the joker and joker 2 touched on.
We are coming to the revolutionary age and its possible that movies that me and rob and others idolize were probably agead of their time. As the human condition is more than ever being scrutinized and criticized. With discussions that fresh and fit and others facilitate like "you wouldnt be a single mom if you did x,y and z in the past" like we all live life in foresight and perfectly.
I would argue that anora would not have done well with todays audience. The only fans model that is having sex with 100 guys, now 1000 guys and having a documentary about it and the audience reaction to it says it all.
We havent progressed as a society at all when it comes to the topics that anora brings up. If anything, they would be behind the parents of the boy in anora if not criticizing the parents for allowing things to get this far. We just are not the same audience that are in awe and curious about life anymore like we were when the first star wars came out and shawshank etc.
I agree, and we share a similar childhood with movies and interests, I was the kid with an 8-millimeter camera wanting to make the next great sci-fi movie. (It never happened). I loved sci-fi and fantasy but I also loved everything I could see. I remember the first time as a kid seeing On the Waterfront, and I was blown away. As a teen started to explore Asian films, I saw the Seven Samiria and then had to see everything by Akira Kurosawa. In college European films were added to the buffet. I have enjoyed so many movies over the years, and I have been thrilled to see so many things that I never thought I would see, Marvel shared universe that culminated in Infinite War and End Game was an amazing experience. However, it gets harder and harder to have a new or amazing experience when watching a movie. I end up being more and more critical because everything feels like a remake, revision or repeat of what has already come. The need for fan-service and easter eggs drives me crazy. Aliens Romulus basically takes all the previous movies and cuts parts from them and resembles them into one movie. It actually repeats lines from previous movie. The dependence on nostalgia makes everything like a 2 hour Deja Vu.
I saw the Tarantino clip last week and I was really hoping you would see and at least discuss this Rob, and I’m so elated that you have. I like how Tarantino made the contrast with a season of a Taylor Sheridan show, where their plots is usually muddle with mellow drama ending with seasons that can be looked at as, well a dose of empty calories until the next season’s fix (I found this very true and I like some of Sheridan’s shows). Unlike season 1 of Homeland (which I still think about till this day) could be looked as a complete story with a ending that really stick with you and leave you with something resonating.
But also anora, is the story of why as a parent, you don't let your 18 year old boy go to the strip club when you raised him rich and sheltered. You don't let him travel with no strict system to who and where he checks in at. That boy had way too loose of boundaries and it almost seemed like he didn't have any parents.
Most films have unfortunately become just like everything else... easily consumable by the masses and disposable. It's rare that I see a film that is thought-provoking and really sticks with me long after it's over.
See substance and anora, last stop in Yuma county, American fiction, the holdovers to start.
Exactly, for all this posturing about how Snyder was screwed and WB interfered with his vision, at the end of the day he got to make 3 movies, when it comes to big-budget blockbusters, most directors get one f*ck up then they're out the door, Snyder got 3 chances and failed each time. And even after that got to make 2 Star Wars knock-offs that failed even harder. Let's move onto some of the other great talent out there, James Gunn's Superman and the people making the other movies, not to mention all the great up and coming talent that might be the next Gunn, or even Nolan or Villeneuve
1:16:34 but the problem with that is that we are not raising up anymore Tom Hanks like actors. All of these new actors coming up, LGBT+ and hetero etc. are not being adequately tried and tested to where they can take over a tom Hanks role and the LGBT+ can have their representation. There are too many LGBT+ actors in Hollywood to not satisfy the request that someone of their community represent them on film in order to give kids and other people some hope that they too can be on big screens and know that they matter and are seen. We don't need Tom Hanks playing the millions of roles out there, we need multiple Tom Hanks of all walks of life to have the chance to be Tom Hanks. That's the point. Of course we know he's an actor and he can do it all. He has done it all, bossom buddies was great. But let's look for more up coming actors and actresses and give them a chance to be Tom Hanks as well.
1:55:25 whoever said that comment about DC not being able to do respect to superman hasnt seen superman and lois, smallvile and the DCAU's superman the animated series as well as the first two christopher reeve superman movies. WB can do superman, they are just lost right now and hopefully james gunn can right the ship. I have faith in Gunn, what hes doing with creature commandos is great. Let the man cook and judge what he cooks like chefs in real life.
When you put accountants and lawyers as the only decision makers they cannot make anything new or interesting.
Bingo. There are no Bob Evans or Mike Eisner among these dopes.
Not just movies, but Art in general. We live in a Corporatocracy, which I believe is the inevitable end result of capitalism. As such, only art with a high monetary value is lauded and given the right to exist in said society. What we’re left with is empty and middling, as meaningful Art and commerce often don’t mix.
The 6:13 mark; ZOETROPE = The name of FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA's movie studio too. - J.D. Watkins
GOT was not a streaming show. It was released week to week. Better examples of streaming shows going in one ear and out the other are any marvel or Star Wars shows on D+ and Rings or power and Fallout.
MR. ROBERT MEYER BURNETT's RANTS are the best!! He/You should really consider your next AUDIO BOOK of nothing but ROBERT MEYER BURNETT's RANTS and the total incompetence of the current day HOLLYWOOD!. Call it 'ROBERT RANTS'!!! and with your/his knowledge in the industry it would be not only funny but very insightful at the same time.- J.D. Watkins
Gladiator 2 made 400 million worldwide off a 300 million dollar budget and the Globes Call it a box office achivement?
I mean it did look really good and I was entertained and it did bring up some good talking points that people don't want to acknowledge.
It’s sad that Anora has to compete with Hawk Tuah.
How do you spell the name of the sci-fi book Rob recommended?
Gunn's Superman movie is the first one in a long time I'm going to see in theater regardless of reviews. For me, it's not streaming but selfish behavior by theater patrons that keeps me away. I usually wait a few weeks and watch an early weekday matinee to see a movie.
The Robert zemeckis film "here" - I really enjoyed and it got crapped on in the reviews. I went to see it in the theaters and my theater was in tears. Another movie like anora that didn't get a lot of recognition but it's definitely rated horribly on rotten tomatoes. I think it's gonna be one of those films the ages well.
Happy you brought up the Avery Tarantino interview....streaming shows are not movies! If you asked me what happened on the second season of Orange is the New Black I have no idea. I can quote the Big Lebowski verbatim.
Yep.... Take your favorite song and make it 20 minutes longer .... You won't listen to it as much and will eventually stop caring. Making something a lot longer has the effect of dulling it's emotional impact.
I think the reason disney had the billion dollar movies this year as opposed to last year is that people loved the originals and saw no Hollywood "message" in the films. In other words, at least half the audience felt they could go in and see the film without being told they are the worst people on earth. Had Inside Out 2 had "the message" in it , Moana 2 would have definitely failed at the theater, and possibly Deadpool & Wolverine as well. There are movies that you expect to have a message front and center in. Inside Out and it's sequel you expect a story related to the perspective of a young girl, but you don't expect to have it promote "all men suck," or, had they done what was a rumored plan, "all straight people are homophobes." With the success of the sequels this year, and adding the results of the election in America and many around the world, people are saying give me good stories without these nonsense agendas. It seems from what I'm hearing Hollywood is hearing them. We'll see in 2025. I just hope most people realize that movies take time to make so the early 2025 movies may have already been made before Hollywood got the message from us, the audience.
There's nothing wrong with having a message in a movie. It's just that it shouldn't be the most important thing in a film. Also, Disney basically remakes their animated fare that I couldn't care about.
Robert,
This has potential to be a television series or a series of movies.
100% agree. Nobody minds adding some stuff related to current social issues if it’s a good story. You definitely can’t get away with it if it’s not a good story tho because it feels preachy. There is a scene in Avengers Endgame where a man is talking to Captain America about dating another man after the Thanos snap and I don’t think the audience really felt that it was preachy at all. It was just naturally & casually embedded into the story because some people have same sex relationships in real life and it’s not unusual.
In contrast, Nick Fury randomly yelling “Black girl magic!” in The Marvels as that one lady took off flying, seemed very forced and it really took me out of the vibe of the movie mentally.
Another example of it being used well was in the Captain America and Winter Soldier series where Sam was having to come to terms with being a Black man who is supposed to represent America. To me this didn’t feel forced at all because that is a natural thing that would actually happen in similar situation in real life. Plus the rest of the story was good.
Pointless putting political messages in entertainment. It's much easier to pay off politicians, tv talking heads and podcasters if you want to get things done. 😂
@ lol I think it used to be a lot more effective back in the day before people got tired of it. Nowdays celebrity endorsements also don’t really do anything because they were overused.
I wasn’t really talking about its effectiveness though in my comment, I was just referring to the situations in which an audience will tolerate it.
2:34:39 I wouldn't mind a live action Howl's Moving Castle that is accurate to the book.
Rob, I love listening to you and through you I have expanded my Physical media collection. By the way I got the Three Colours Trilogy on bluray which I got introduced through you from your previous video. I do have a question. I am trying to search that movie that Major Cha Cha recommend you. Could you give me that name again? I want to look at purchasing a physical media copy.
Also everything you said about the new Superman movie is right on target!🎯💯 And Star Trek The Motion Picture is my favorite Star Trek film as well. Have a great day Rob and everyone here!
Pretty sure that was Bicycle Thieves directed by Vittorio De Sica.
@@AlvaroZinos Thanks!
RMB the Art Bell of the entertainment world.
Nobody was excited for steel bro 😅😅
True, but I did enjoy watching it from time to time.
Dolores Claiborne.
What's the name of the book Rob talks about at 2:11:00?
EQUIMEDIAN. My first novel and a labor of love :)
2:27:18 "Mudslides with a sexy Smits"
Just watched the Substance. It is directed by a woman so the movie definitely carries a female gaze which is not for me.
Why is the movie not good to you?
@@Dr.Beetlejuice110 Because I don't agree with its politics and it HAS politics.
@@aryaman98 I'm interested in what part of the female gaze you don't agree with when it comes to substance. From what I have seen, what they are saying with that movie pretty much tracks.
@@aryaman98I do want to point out too that all movies have politics. Just to name a few, taxi driver, fight club, a Bronx tale...list goes on.
Yeah after watching Man of Steel, I did become more self-actualized. COME AT ME
1:01:32....anora was a good movie but I didn't get anything from that movie. Other than the director has a huge crush on that actress. It was a good movie. But it didn't give me anything to take and apply to my life. I'm already pretty human to sex workers in a world that is wildly inhuman towards them which I think was the overall message of that movie.
Has a crush on her? Lol are you in sixth grade? Wtf are you talking about?
1:32:30 I was kind of disgusted by how many people complained about your trailer resction stream, and "not getting to the point." Probably the same people that will watch gamers stream games for hours on end. These people are culturally bankrupt and do not understand the value a person like you has, with all your experiences and insights.
That’s very kind of you to say. Many thanks. I can’t fault the audience for wanting what they want, and with many new subscribers, many aren’t familiar with my format, especially because they don’t know who I am yet. I’m certainly not to everyone’s taste.
I hate to say it but fucking video games and the culture is also ruining the cultural impact of film these days. I still don't get why people, even young people wanna play something instead of watching a good story play out! I can understand if the competitive spirit, maybe even learning how to develop a sense of strategy or even good reflexes can be developed from playing video games. But in reality most gamers are dopes and in my estimation have little motivation or inspiration for creativity. Not as much as potential filmmakers. I'm sorry if gamers have a problem with that!
Because you get to be apart of the story. But I don't think video games have anything to do with it. Video games are telling good stories these days, the kingdom hearts games, the God of war games, the final fantasy games. All good stories where you get to be apart of as opposed to just watching it.
Sorry Rob but your argument that sequels can’t leave a big impact on the viewer because they know what they’re getting is total nonsense. Wrath of Khan, Dark Knight, Return of the King, Empire Strikes Back, Winter Soldier, Infinity War/Endgame, Bourme Ultimatum, Evil Dead 2 etc etc the list could go on. Based on your logic, you’re saying that audiences knew what to expect when going into these films?
Countless examples of sequels that are superior and also offer different and better experiences to the originals. The issue is simply the quality of sequels we are getting currently rather than the fact that they are sequels.
Totally agreed
NO BIG ROB MOVIES JUST SUCK NOW AND ARE ALL RETREADS!!! SO JAMES GUNN IS GOING TO RE-RE-RE-RE BOOT BATMAN?
You are wild sir....there are some good movies out there. To your point about batman....so because someone did one idea, they should never do it again??
At the 21:22 mark; AMADEUS is THEE GREATEST film(not movie) in cinematic HISTORY!- James D. Watkins, artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS. (Quote/Dialogue from this MASTERPIECE: Priest: "All men are created equal in GOD'S eyes"......Salieri: "Are they?")
It's a great movie but you don't watch many movies if you think that's the greatest movie in history. Now, if you rephrased that's the move you love the most... there's a difference, you know? One is objective, the other is subjective. You can do whatever you want with the subjective, but not the other way around.
@alexandresobreiramartins9461 First Ms. Alexandre, AMADEUS is a FILM! Not a movie. BIG difference. Second - AMADEUS touches and reaches on different levels; Being holy and asking God to be a better artist, person, successful, etc. only to see firsthand the Mediocre of our society appear to be 'blessed' with what YOU prayed for just like ANTONIO SALIERI prayed. Another point of levels; Stop looking and worrying about other people's endeavors and YOU should focus on your own advancements and talents and gifts - just like ANTONIO SALIERI did. Another point of levels; Like the immortal dialogue in the beginning of this FILM - Priest; "All men are equal in God's eyes", SALIERI: "Are they?" - That little bit of dialogue is not only EXTREMELY PROFOUND but it speaks VOLUMES about the possibility of how a supernatural Being could make and see the human race because MOZART was/is Head & Shoulders above most prodigies and why is that, Ms. Alexandre? Another point of levels; Is it possible that a powerful artistic and creative prodigy burnout at certain ages occurs? Another point of levels; - A.I. (Artistic Immortality) - That's what the FILM AMADEUS represents to all of our artists. Now, please go back and watch the movie TRANSFORMERS or The Fast & The Furious. - James D Watkins artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.
@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 Lol there is no objectivity in film.
Why are you so defensive of James Gunn's Superman? You are going to such great lengths to support it.. You don't have any horse in this race!
Guy legit does a TH-cam show quite often. Him speaking of something he's into IS NOT 'going to great lengths'
I do have a horse in this race. I want to see a great movie!
@@THEBURNETTWORK Alright. Point..
Uh Game of Thrones wasn't a streaming show why would you use this as an example? You are 100 % accurate on this take but you should have used The Witcher or Stranger Things as your example
You hate Man of Steel SO MUCH...
Not me. I’ve been singing its praises for a decade.