God is Dead: What Nietzsche REALLY Meant
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- God is dead - Nietzsche's most notorious line and also one of his most commonly misunderstood. The Nietzsche God is dead statement is a New Atheist sentiment but the warning of a Postmodernist. It is commonly mistaken for a modernist sentiment proclaiming the death of Christianity’s God. But that is not what Nietzsche intended. It was not a declaration of atheism; atheism was already a trivial point of view (if still controversial) by the end of the 19th century. Nietzsche was not echoing a common sentiment but pushing beyond to its unseen implications.
Nietzsche was pioneering the postmodern perspective. This is obvious from the aphorism it occurs in. In The Gay Science Nietzsche tells the parable of the madman who declares the death of God. The madman’s audience are not religious believers or members of the Church as one would expect from a declaration of God’s death. The audience was a crowd of jeering non-believers. This points to the real intention of Nietzsche’s statement.
In this episode we are going to explore the meaning of this statement in light of this insight and see what exactly Nietzsche meant by his provocative statement that God is dead and we have killed him.
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⌛ Timestamps:
0:00 God is Dead: Introduction
1:33 The Madman's Audience
5:03 Nietzsche Contra
10:10 The Real Meaning of God’s Death
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@@TheLivingPhilosophy Maybe the bigger engine is ticking but too silent to communicate? at the moment it calls itself the million-year moment yet Time is not of interest? as it self mademoiselle not of Man creating time himself out of context meaning any natural selection has fucked up and something is responsible for the Mistakes Man should not be responsible for. not Logical but we have no other choice but to think at the very long shot in our time. we observe and are poisonous at any chance it gets to develop Controlling our lives as if we are not responsible for any reason could mean something greater than us and is out and about... I can't buy we are just here by natural cause of selective growth mutation or whatever bounces around like a mental mobile object standing still at 24,000 miles per hour.
Nietzsche was a perspectivist. There is no absolute, eternal truth, only points of view - some of which are more useful and advantageous than others. Atheists before him wanted a stable, certain moral universe without God. Nietzsche tells them that along with God ALL moral, philosophical and scientific beliefs go too. Nothing escapes the absence of God.
Just as much absolute truth as there isn't.
He was a sophist
Ie, a satanist
@@pinecone9045 2+2 is 4 yet still
@@aqilshamil9633 How do you know, flesh automaton? How can you justify trusting the neurons that fire in your brain to provide you the correct information?
What a powerful thinker was he... Indeed looking in the face of the abyss with optimism and curiosity can only be done by a great mind. That's why I admire Nietzsche so much.
Excellent take on N's words....agree w/ you on modern "so-called" reality, cheers brother.
Very much enjoy your analyses on Nietzsche, always end up learning more.
Thanks Eternalised much appreciated!
De adventure of life is to learn what I find interesting and remember what matters to me.
To me
Fighting means conquering my self because I am my greatest enemy.
Neitcheze is DEAD. Jesus is ALIVE. Repent and believe in Him or you will go to Hell for your sins.
@@56pjr Are you sure about it? how did you come to this conclusion?
First time listener. I’ve listened to about 10 spots and I just wanted to say thanks. Can’t wait to hear more and share with friends.
I truly love your videos. The narration style and your explanation are fascinating, keep it up
That's so nice to hear thank you for that
This subject always brings to mind the idea of scientific understanding vs. scientific knowledge.
A deluded mind can relate to true concepts in a false way. But the purity of observation stands beyond the fallacies of knowledge.
I remember when you were just starting out. Your intellect and persistence are very admirable, and you seem like a pretty cool dude.
May both your channel and your understanding continue to grow!
Thanks jobbimaster I recognise your name from the early vids glad to see the interwebs have brough you back this way! Thanks for the support hopefully things only improve from here!
"A deluded mind can relate to true concepts in a false way. But the purity of observation stands beyond the fallacies of knowledge."
This is absolutely genius, man. Thanks for sharing.
This was a very enjoyable and informative analysis. I especially like the aphorism that science, like religion, is the fruit of the same tree. It’s interesting that what science wanted to refute so badly, it became in exchange.
What did science want to refute? Religion ! .
Science and religion are two complementary things, not competing
It's like saying a lab wants to refute a court
And it is not possible for a religion to kill God and prove that He does not exist. Science's mission is to discover and study the physical and biological laws that run this universe. He cannot comprehend who created these laws
The player cannot by studying the rules of the game discover the programmer who programmed this game
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Your videos are always fascinating
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You're absolutely brilliant! I love your calm voice and your fantastic structure. I always have a smile on my face while watching cos I feel much smarter :D greetings from Germany!
Haha thanks so much Tani! I really appreciate the kind words and happy to hear you feel enriched by it! It's a funny thing when you think about it a German philosopher being talked about by an Irish guy being watched in Germany. A weird and wonderful world we live in eh!
Listened to this about 10 times, and finally it hit home lol...fucking wonderful. Not only the explanation, but what Nietzsche's saying
Haha that's ace thanks for watching and delighted to hear you got so much out of it! That's made my day
This is wonderful stuff and goes to the heart of what I have been mulling over lately...I now realize that I've been an unhappy adherent of scientism. And your mode of presentation makes the phrase "passionate intensity" an understatement.
Haha awesome! Hopefully it was a helpful insight rather than a summons to nihilism!
I really enjoyed your analysis here.
I have heard this quote many times over the years but never fully understood the meaning and context.
Ty for content.
Like and sub well earned.
well, thats a really great analysis of Nietzsche, nice video
I'm a former altar boy, budding philosophy student and have worked in science most of my career. So loved this. Just came across your channel today. Looking forward to checking out more of your content.
Thanks a million Patrick hope you enjoy the journey down the rabbit hole!
Subscribed! You inspire thought. Thank you!
Excellent presentation. Thank you friend. Youve definitely earned a sub and life long listener
Your content is rich, man. Saying this because it makes one think in a calm and non combative way. You've also made me want to explore Nietzsche beyond his pop culture fame. Thanks from Ghana.
Ah thank you so much Felicia that's a joy to hear!
New subscriber, great content!
This was fantastic you've got my sub from that. I had loved the phrase for all the wrong reasons the depth of the passage now revealed it seems so obvious in hindsight that there was more to it than a triumphant cry of freedom from religion.
Wonderful the hear Patrick I'm glad it sparked something for you!
That is a very good video. And you also happen to have a really nice voice to hear. Thank you for sharring such greath and deep insights on Nietzsche's work.
Ah thanks Emmanuel! Always good to hear!
This is a truly excellent philosopy channel. Keep up the good work sir!
Thanks a million David I'm humbled!
Nice video my man 💯
Love your analysis and so relevant to what is happening globally right now.
Loved your analysis about one of Nietzsche's most famous aphorism !! I would love to see a video about "The Society of the Spectacle" from Guy Debord.
Thanks Askeladd! I've never heard of this society of the spectacle but I shall be checking it out right now thanks for the recommendation let's see what it stirs in me!
Great video, hope you’ll expand on the post truth subject in a future video.
Oh yeah that would be an awesome one to explore. I just need the right angle to come at it from but I could see the Nietzschean through-line there
Fantastic video. I've also interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that the phrase "God is dead" was to be understood as an accessory of the will to power, that one had the ability to create their own meaning in life as a creative being (like God) and that there was no true metaphysical meaning of life outside that of the individuals creation.
God is dead.
So we must become god unto our self-
That is das ultimate aspiration for mankind.
I like your videos by I get distracted by your accent. Where you from, Wicklow?
Haha Limerick
@@TheLivingPhilosophy haven't visited in a long time. My ear is gone.
Great video as always!
Thanks vak!!
this was a great video! Would you mind making one on the analysis and criticism of Albert Camus' works and the philosophy of absurdism? I struggle to understand the core of his absurdist worldview.
Sounds good! I made a video on existentialism vs absurdism vs nihilism but have been meaning to circle back to camus and do a deeper dive so I'll happily add it to the list!
This video provides an excellent and concise explaination of why I love Nietzsche so damn much. Definitely sharing this one around, thank you!!
Awesome Matthew glad to hear you enjoyed it so much and thanks for the sharesies!
Fantastic analysis and so clearly explained!
YES!
Brilliant!
You managed to pact nearly all of the profoundly salient components of the madman's message into your 1:30 intro. That was extremely well done sir. That intro grabbed me by the collar and said:
"Yes! I actually have something interesting, relevant, and truly valuable to say about Nietzsche at this point in our history. Interested?"
Yes sir, I sure am.
I find your videos would be more enriching for me if I had added comments about what Nietzsche thought about these adjacent terms that you drop in these videos.
As an example, what DID Nietzsche say about Atheists/ism? How does that reflect on how we then consider his statements about God?
When you quote Genealogy 3.24, as another point, why not then make clear what Nietzsche's religious, political, social... objections are to viewing life as such-and-such a person? I feel Nietzsche is saying (from what the video gave me) that its objectionable how a large entity would run, insofar as it values truth as a way of "being-in-identity-with/as" the world. In other words, when we choose to value "science", "governors", "politics" as governing entity's, we are regarding them truthfully; it would make our lives not more directly related to our health.
Although I don't embrace the Nietzscheian approach I appreciate his additions to the quest of philosophy. I think essentialism is misunderstood, that ancient approaches to truth and divinity aren't translated well.
I think there's a kind of nuance that when one uses as their looking glass they'll have a magnified perspective. It's however not easy to describe such a view, and for that reason the modern conventions seem to have most individuals too busy to find the path to the general esoteric epiphanies.
It's a true tragedy that I'm working at giving something for preservation if not revival when I too am not too preoccupied making efforts for all these payments.
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You are doing a superb service to the Philosophical Community of TH-cam
Thanks Roman that's always a great think to hear I appreciate the compliment!
Your lectures offer a strange mix of academic analysis with a poetic uplift. I never got around to studying Nietzsche . I admit to all these years misunderstanding the warning behind “God is dead”.I had put my books down some 27 yrs ago. Thankful to you for saving me the effort of ploughing through dry academic text.Listening to your analysis is far easier on the soul.
What a beautiful compliment thank you very much! I'm delighted to hear my work could have such an effect!
Just wanted to say that i really enjoy your vids man.
Prolly because philosophy and psychology are two of my biggest intellectual interests, but regardless i find your content to be entertaining, highly educational( at least as an solid intro) and often thought proviking/challenging i like unusual and different ideas i might not agree with and that make me uncomfortable.
Sorry for the run-on sentence, regardless great stuff and know that it has an impact and value dude thanks and cheers!
Thanks for sharing that Yusuf it always means a lot to me to hear that the videos as a collective are meaningful
This is unbelievable. I never recognized this statement as something postmodern, but instead always thought it to be in the vein of modernism/sciencism. So interesting. Thanks a million.
Thoughtful and cogent Thank you
This was a truly profound analyzation of "god is dead".
When I read this poem the first time, I was shattered by its alarmist breath, hence I knew only the triumphal and dishonest interpretation of the new atheist types. Reading the poem myself, I came to the impression, it's more a lamento than a triumph, more a warning than a cheap liberation. Very well brought to the point! Thanks
Cool glad you enjoyed it J.H. thanks for watching!
Great Video!
Thanks Bill!
Love your videos!
Thanks a million! Delighted to hear it!
I read the interview Der Speigel did of Heidegger in the 60's. One thing Heidegger said really hit home. Heidegger said when he saw the images of the Earth from the moon he was horrified, knowing that image would uproot humans, uproot them from their home, the Earth. Without a home: without traditions, without history, without ordinary ways of being, man can not be. He is like a ghost. Great vid! A universal home is not a home. I love the Earth and can't even imagine a heaven better than our home.
Ah now that's a hot take from Heidegger I love it! Don't think I agree but I love the novelty of it
As a christian, I have great (if a little sad) admiration for Nietzsche, he stared into the abyss that the world would plunge into when man overcame it's natural state of religiosity, I like to think about Nietzsche the way Dr. Surgrue does, as a cultural seismograph that tried to give the future a way out of nihilism. Terrific thinker overall.
i kid you not, i just ranted heavily to a friend a few weeks ago in regards to the joke that’s often made “Nietzsche is dead, - God”, and how it often misses entirely the point Nietzsche was making.
Sure enough, it looks like i’m not much better in having thought that the idea was that the Abrahamic God was gone and that we should be trying to rediscover the self. I’ve only read BG&E, and even that, I read when I was younger. I revisit some of my favorite passages and often learn something new from it, but to think I could’ve been so far off mark with this tidbit is nuts. Thanks so much for the deeper dive on this.
Haha well we're all learning Mat and god knows that Nietzsche has as many readings sometimes as his books have aphorisms so I think you'll be forgiven that! I have even seen some push back with this video that has made me doubt myself again so I guess it's never ending learning from the good Friedrich. Thanks for watching I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Neitcheze is DEAD. Jesus is ALIVE. Repent and believe in Him or you will go to Hell for your sins.
Fantastic !! Your doing gods work my friend..
LOL but he be dead no?
Yeah and Allah approves.
Thanks, it was a helpful analysis for me. I see the losses of certainty and restraint from theism as akin to the losses when theists invaded indigenous societies. In that case, we know at least something of what was lost - knowledge of, and regard for, the land and its ecosystems. The results of those losses are still building, with extinctions, climate change, desertification, soil salination, ocean acidification, and so on.
If AI ever becomes sentient, or at least capable of supplanting humans, more sacrifices will be made on the altar of progress. It seems to be just how reality works. Even on a personal level, we lose the innocence, vitality and creativity of childhood when we mature, but most of us would not choose to go back! Even if these qualities are irretrievable, we can at least be aware of what has been lost and to value them as necessary steps in our development.
Spot on!!! A complex and objective thinker.
Amazing video on the topic, very thought provoking.
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Haha delighted it helped Victor thank you!
Can you explain to me the meaning of God's death for Nietzsche briefly because I don't understand the ideas of philosophers well?
Excellent video. Suggestion: Nietzsche as a reader of the French Moralists & Georg Christoph Lichtenberg. Authors that I love dearly and are ignored in Philosophy Departments all over. Lichtenberg, specially, had a significant impact on German philosophy, from Schopenhauer to Nietzsche and Wittgenstein, and is completely ignored.
Fascinating suggestion Tiago I didn't realise Lichtenberg was so infliential
This is amazing. Thank you
You're very welcome Evee thanks for watching and thanks for the support!
Wow amazing explanation!
Glad you enjoyed it Savannah!
Thank you. I've been having these exact arguments in myself lately. Do you live for God or live for life?
I live for god-
God is in us-
The author of our dream.
Who is the interbeing that creates the wonder of dream
When I am sleeping like a dead man ?
This was fantastic!
Thanks Ariel!
The critique towards any belief, and furthermore, towards any subject DOES NOT invalidate the subject. It only loosens the motivation for the observer to stick to the subject, to GRAVITATE around it as the Moon rotates around the Earth. Critique is a means of transitioning from a subject to another. Supportive arguments are the glue that sticks you to the belief. Miracles anchor you in a warm spirituality, whereas scientism grabs you by the neck and throws you out in the coldness of the meaninglessness. One can only choose the environment where to go or change/decorate the environment altogether. The environments are the previous beliefs/subjects I was referring to.
1:07 completely agree
I think it's important to remember that we question ALL our beliefs, whatever it may be not just religion i.e. own thoughts and behaviours. But what would happen if we didn't have these 'silly stories' that have come to be so important to humanity? Like I mean children for example, stories play a vital role in growth/ development and how they see the world help them learn simple lessons. Wonder what Nietzche's view on children was? Thanks for shaking up my little world again .
Is there much about his childhood?
One other thing of note is that Nietzsche was also probably going after socialism, and specifically would argue the Marxist Revolution was another latest manifestation of filling a void left by the unbelief in God. However, even though he was critical that the State and/or a Revolution was just a stand in for faith, he predicted quite well what nihilism would do seeping into public sphere because to be frank, his sister and brother-in-law were doing what's going on around the world today back then: scapegoating other groups for problems and then shielding themselves nihilism disguised freedom.
Here lad, you from Ireland?
Just saw that you were in your 'About' section. Good man
Haha I am indeed I'm a Limerick man and with a name like Oisín you must be yourself
@@TheLivingPhilosophy aha, I just showed your videos to a mate whose just discovered the late alan watts and we were guessing your accent! He voted midlands, I voted not dublin.
And I am indeed! You have some great videos man, really enjoying your work.
@@PageIsYourGod Haha well of the two vague answer I guess not Dublin wins XD I think my accent got dulled when I was living in Scotland and people kept asking what 100 divided by 3 was. That and then being in Australia it ended up giving me the weird mixed up accent I have now
@@TheLivingPhilosophy , I joined a group of Ireland. I love the Irish people and culture, though I am not Irish. I've heard a lot about the palce Limerick. Anyway, I just want to say I am more than impressed f your brilliant interpretation.
whatever can be destroyed will be destroyed given enough time. Its okey to be a conservative as a sport, to battle time. But deluding oneself with religion is only necessary for those who need it inorder to keep going
This guy makes sense. Excellent interpretation of " The Gay Science"
Thanks Janey!
Thank you for the video. I’m learning so much from you. Though I think the fear of the fallout of God’s death is very real, especially to people whom lose much of their self’s to that idea. There’s still many ways to look to understand things without him.
I like a lot of ideas in exastinsilism and absurdism. And I often find myself fueled to rebel against the absurd.
I don’t know if that was a suspected outcome of God’s death
I don’t know if that’s the answer to it all but it doesn’t matter if I ever do.
i love this .In the context of rising atheism and mass democracy , the loss of belief in the supernatural has pyschological implications on man . There is a dangerous path to nihilism as a replacement of our belief in the higher being . We must form our own meaning
I grew up in a Christian household, and at the age of 16 I officially divorced myself from that worldview and became an atheist. Five years later I found myself standing on a stool with a noose around my neck, unsure whether I would die because I didn't know if the deterministic forces of the universe would compel my physical organism to jump. I knew I had no free will because I deduced that it was impossible from the fundamental axioms of scientific materialism. What terrified me even more was that if causation DID compel me to jump, I might wind up living this hellish life over and over again for all of eternity, for I had thought deeply about the possibility that the universe might expand and collapse infinitely with perfect precision so that everything would repeat itself exactly as it was forever and ever. The fact that my most beloved author posited the idea himself only affirmed my belief that such a proposition was plausible. Fortunately I FREELY MADE THE CHOICE to not commit suicide, and 16 years later at the age of 37 I am talking about it to ya'll. The nihilism that followed the Death of God was a long, long, oh so very long series of dark abysses, and I had to die (hit rock bottom) and be reborn (change my fundamental presuppositions, orientations, and attitudes) many times over in order to live and grow. I've been quite stable for a few years now and am the healthiest mentally and emotionally that I've been in my life. But my goodness did the philosophical, religious, and existential crisis's do a number on me. And with Nietzsche it's like, no wonder the man went insane. He was most likely the first to go through this journey and he was unquestionably the first to map it out for us. For you young people out there on the philosophical path, please do not make the same mistakes as your ancestors. Learn from them, soak up their wisdom, and learn from both their triumphs and their failures.
Absolutely beautiful comment William thanks for that
@@TheLivingPhilosophy You are welcome, and thank you for your kind reply and for paying attention and responding to people's posts. You do a fantastic job with this channel (I just discovered it like a week ago and it's the best philosophy channel I've ever come across!). Keep up the great work!
@@williamkoscielniak7871 Ah wow it always blows my mind to hear people compliment the channel so highly William so thank you and also thank you for the kind words about the replying. I used to be much more proactive and engaged about it but the last couple of months have been so full on with it that I've noticed myself stepping back from it a little which is a shame but it's alwasy something that I want to be part of the channel - the sense that we are peers learning together and that we're all sitting eating popcorn talking about the topic being studied rather than it being me on a soapbox. I guess that's a very difficult idea to scale but it's a guiding ideal at least
Great video!
Though, I have to say, I personally don't care that much about nietzsche. Truth isn't that important in an objective sense, one can still find meaning without objective truth.
I think a good scientific analyogy for what I mean is the twin paradox; reality can be percieved from different angles and it will look different from all of them. That's not something to be scared about. It's something to be excited about for all the possibilities one has to interpret reality and if something bad happens in life, there is always a way to look at it less negatively.
Does this mean you are a postmodernist?
@@TheLincolnrailsplitt Hm, could be, I'd have look at it more closely but from the broad introductions/short descriptions of it that I've read, I'd have to agree with that sentiment. My favorite philosopher is albert camus. I think, he can be labeled as postmodern?
Nietzsche would have an aneurysm if he saw the state of the world in 2023.
Superb presentation (again!) - many thanks. You could push it even further... and ask why has the phrase ''death' of God'' been made popular, when the language Nietzsche uses in z's prologue is so grimly biological? God has been MURDERED, has ''bled to death beneath our knives'', and stinks as he decomposes. The questions of the links between ( transcendental-materialist) physiology and VALUE are the key territory. And I totally agree with you, the ''empty sky'' atheism of scientism is so bland and repulsive it almost makes me want to invite the Jehova's Witnesses and Wahabbis in for tea.
Hahaha indeed Mark! You bring up a very good point about the language Nietzsche uses and I wish I had dwelled on that more before making the video. It's such powerful biological language as you say. It's not something thin and inchoate that's been killed but you really get the sense of the thick blood on our hands
Thank you
Thanks for the support Rin!
I wont write Nietzche off as the grinch who stole christmas just yet then hehe..also have you ever heard that piece of music from Frank Zappa called Secular Humanism? Hope your well x
I have not but I shall check it out
it's very strange and experimental but very good! Frank Zappa was an absolute genius and had some very interesting thoughts on the dangers of religion
Very good.
Thanks Daniel
@@TheLivingPhilosophy You're welcome. A good extension to this is in Evola's _Ride the Tiger,_ specifically Chapter 20: Covering up Nature Phenomenology. Check it out if you haven't already.
7:33 Yes exactly.
Very good
Always an open sea can never say there has never been yet a better open sea...
Excellent!
Nietzsche: "God is dead! ",
God:"you are dead!"
oh shit I hadn't thought on it this way...
Goddamnit, there's alot of excellence here, but maybe a couple issues
1. why would asceticism be science's ideal? Does Nietzsche believe this? Why? This does feel like alarmism
2. at the end of the day, this dude is saying Nietzsche's questioning *evaluations* around truth (and I think he means objectivity of values, not necessarily "truth" in a generic sense)
My issue here is that the *type* of truth that I think is being implied should be differentiated from the generic idea of "truth"
So the answer to question 1 is that asceticism is the holding the universal valuations as the highest ideal so God fits this mould but so too does the modernist's "objective" world, the transcendant world in which truth happens. And as you point out in 2. it's not a scepticism about the existence of truth but about the value of truth. There are untruths that have been as important if not more important than truth in keeping life going so why value truth so highly?
So I guess to answer the question asceticism isn't science's ideal but science is a manifestation of the "Ascetic Ideal" which is the love of universal transcedants.
And as for your last point I think you might be on to something. Even then we might end up in the same trap because once you isolate out the objective from the subjective aspects of truth the danger is that this objective truth will again be enshrined on the pedestal. Maybe not but that would be my concern
GOD IS EVERYTHING ❤
Except he doesn’t exist
It's not only truth that's put in question with the death of God but the very being of our existence, "unfathomable nothingness".
As a Nietzsche devotee who doesn’t mind bragging that I’ve read almost everything Nietzsche has written, and believes that once one has read him, reflected and most importantly interpreted their own unique meaning, almost all other philosophy pales in comparison.
He is the Shakespeare of philosophy.
For me, one of the meanings of the God is dead aphorism is first a lamentation, not a celebration.
Mankind has dispatched an important symbol of mythology and reference for truth, without ‘evaluating the values’ that lead to gods creation and thus also his death.
If we do not understand the underlying fundamental values, ideas, drives, and principles that lead to these various authoritative symbols or systems, then we are doomed to keep ignorantly erecting new idols, new symbols based on the same old ‘Judeo-Christian-Platonic’ values which are ultimately life denying, illusory, and corrupt.
The proof is right there.
We still place our hope for salvation in science, technology, wokeism, self help, all sorts of similar systems, fed by a fear, angst, a desperate need to believe in salvation, redemption, an afterlife, in the ascetic lifestyle- that’s the real problem, and that’s what I believe Nietzsche was warning humanity of.
The greatest challenge we face of which Nietzsche realised was that only a revaluation of all values could possibly bring about a return to a world which might resemble something authentic, life affirming, and worthy.
As we know early on Nietzsche believed that to be pre-Socratic Greece, with a heavy emphasis on the cult of Dionysus.
The great question is: Is humanity capable of such an undertaking?
I say no, and believe anti-natalism may be the only noble and honorable path left.
Better that than a species lying to itself on life-support.
I lack the courage, ( yes, just as Rust Cohle admitted).
The Shakespeare of philosophy. This is one of the greatest descriptions of Nietzche I have ever heard and I will be using this in future!
There's a snippet from a lecture by Jordan Peterson from the 90"s about this and he has a similar view on it as you
It doesn't surprise me Hammad. Myself and Peterson read Nietzsche in quite a similar way so it sounds about right
Thank you for this wonderful video!
If anyone is interested in this subject of science Vs religion, I would recommend the book "Seven Types of Atheism" by John Gray. For me, it was life-changing.
Truth is making a comeback thanks to science’s recent bungling.
Does the phrase "God is Dead" mean that the "old" god is dead and being replaced by the new God that is scientism? Sorry, I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly... Your video really helped though, so thank you!
No Ashtyn I mean you could read it that way but Nietzsche didn't phrase scientism as a god. And also he saw it as being the end point of the Ascetic Ideal that birthed Christianity rather than being a separate counter-ideal. He wrote that
"where it is not the latest expression of the ascetic ideal-and the exceptions are too rare, noble, and atypical to refute the general proposition-science today is a hiding place for every kind of discontent, disbelief, gnawing worm, despectio sui, bad conscience-it is the unrest of the lack of ideals, the suffering from the lack of any great love, the discontent in the face of involuntary contentment"
You could maybe frame it (and it has been done in the culture) as science being the new god but Nietzsche never talked that way
Thanks for the cool video bro. Sometimes I wonder if this Alan Watts quote applies to people struggling with the issues of nihilism and relativism: “A person who thinks all the time has nothing to think about except thoughts. So, he loses touch with reality and lives in a world of illusions." However, as I _think_ about this citation, I feel it may seem more interesting than it is. What I meant to say by it, is that people who are more grounded in the physical world, and have a very practical mindset, seem to be completely unaffected by the existential vacuum in which we (seem to) live. Do they lack the mental capacity to understand such problems, or are they much wiser than us, choosing not to ponder (allegedly) unanswerable questions? Where do they get their motivation from, when things start to look bad? I have thought people can only permit themselves the luxury of atheism when they forget how it feels to suffer. This thought follows the assumption that suffering can only be endured when someone believes they shall be released of it.
Great comment Mo there's so so much bubbling up in me in response to it. I've thought about this a lot and that difference is really important. The existential vacuum seems to always be there if you decide to turn and face it. But with the meaning inherent in everyday life and the meaning systems (like religions but also nationalism and politics) that act as a safe container which give meaning outside of the personal sphere, with all this the void is never really faced. It's only when all this fails that we are faced with the void. I don't just think it's to do with thinking about thoughts. With the likes of Camus and Sartre I don't see their crisis of the absurd or of nausea as being about overthinking but of living in a world where everything has fallen apart. Religion was crumbling, politics was in total chaos (Nausea was written a year before WW2 and Myth of Sisyphus in the middle of it). There was no container to catch them and personal life was in such disarray and that's when they were slapped with the void.
Another time when these crises are common is in the liminal spaces of life: adolescence and the midlife transition. These are times when our psychology undergoes a transformation. Our identity has to reshape itself. What formerly gave us meaning has lost its tang and so we have to enter into a new phase of life. And without the support of the previous meaning system and without a society that has initiatory processes to midwife us through these times we are in danger of staring into that void.
So I don't think it's a case of one group being wiser than the other but of circumstances (both internal and external) leading to this encounter with the horror of meaninglessness. I think out of that there can be something productive and beautiful. My favourite art and philosophy comes out of this encounter maybe because I've fallen into those holes a couple of times in my life and having someone else out there to navigate it and make sense of it gave me some kind of map and meaning to get through that space.
Thus ends my overlong reply. It was really good for me to write this to tease apart my thoughts and hopefully you'll enjoy it as well!
@@TheLivingPhilosophy Very much enjoy reading your lengthy response! Very insightful. I should probably read those books you mention. Got a lot to learn. I think it's interesting your favorite art stems from dealing with the void. I tend to gravitate toward art and philosophy that appear genuine to me. Your TH-cam videos definitely fall in that category! Probably pretty overlapping with your taste, because meaning systems often seem to be illusions held by (groups of) people created by constantly lying to themselves, or, in politics, focussing on conveniently incomplete information and jumping to conclusions. I'm not sure if lying is the right word, because I feel like the existence of anything beyond our reality can neither be proven nor disproven. So to what extent is hoping and believing in a heaven and a creator really self-deceptive? The desire for it can be very genuine and I feel that a lot in religious artforms such as Muslim prayer chants and Gospel music. The deception only occurs when one claims to know for sure what everything is all about. Anyways, thanks for the reply. Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff! :)
@@motownmoneygang Thanks a million Mo! Definitely have a shared sense of questions and curiosity around this question of authenticity and what is actually genuine
Very good video , I think the great danger you speak about rise of Nazism and communism, the and of history
Grazie.
Grazie Umberto!
Fuckin' on point! Loved it.
Thanks a million glad you enjoyed it!
How would Nietzsche feel gratitude without having anthropomorphized the universe? We are left without anyone to feel gratitude toward other than our fellow men.
This assumes Nietzsche wrote to empower the masses, which is obviously not true. What he says is the multitude will follow the herd, since that is all they are capable of. Nietzsche is unconcerned about those who can not rise above the level of the birds and bees.
excellent. wow
Love your channel..And I love Nietzsche, And regarding religion/god it can be explained in one quote as follows..I cannot believe in a god who wants to be praised all the time.(Nietzsche).
Thanks Haris for the kind words and the great quote!
My question is whether nietzche is a nihilist and why did he propose for a Superman?
Because every interbeing needs a hero
@@satnamo Nietzsche's superman might not be what you think it is. He/she is not a hero, but man (as in mankind) realizing himself, saying goodbye to herd mentality, setting his own goals, recognizing who he really is, as a part of nature, as opposed to meekly following contrived falsehoods about mankind, and the Christian submissive, worshipping herd/slave mentality, which is what Nietzsche deeply, deeply despised.
"God is dead" is only the first part of the sentence. It continues " because we killed Him."