My mom wouldn’t let me see hunger games but let me see the divergent movies. When my mom explained what hungers games was about, she said that they put a bunch of kids in a room to fight to their death. And I had no idea what it was actually like so I imagined a dark concrete box-room with 10 year olds trying to use anything to beat each other up. And I was shocked when I finally got to see it.
Reminds me of that moment when my mom told me the Titanic movie was about a boat sinking, and I was picturing a small wooden boat with two lads on it. Gosh I was so dramatic at 8 years old
@@camilaramirez-od6hn op literally just said that divergent was the first hunger games copy. they are acknowledging that the hunger games came first, please make sure you actually read what op said before talking 😅😅
The Hunger Games is about how society romanticizes pain and violence. It shows that although some parts of the world are fine most of it isn’t, and that most victims of violence are not taken care of. Divergent is about how although we try, humans are not perfect. Something bad may happen, and things don’t always go as plan. You may not be able to trust everybody, and that’s hard. You still have to try and lend people your trust. Although they are very similar in abstract, in the sense that they comment on society, they are also very different. They demonstrate two different things about society.
This is very common among books of the same genre to have the exact same formula especially YA novels. Harry Potter lead to an increase of books about adolescents going to magical boarding school. Twilight led to an influx of Vampire vs Werewolf love triangle novels, and Six of Crows lead to an influx of teen heist novels. These “copies” always sell bc people want to read more of the same concept just with different adventures/characters.
@Misaamanenoir Frankly I'm glad it didn't. I liked it as a kid, but there were a lot of problematic elements looking back...and so many things are nearly identical to Vampire Academy.
Even Darkest minds. The world is ending kinda and kids (always young people) are put in camps, they're looking for reds and oranges, orange is really rare, blablabla😂😂😂
Up next: a blond guy with a hammer goes after his colleague - a big, strong guy with anger issues - and teams up with a femme fatale with a tragic backstory to escape a bright, colorful world that’s locked into competition by a flamboyant overlord; and along the way teams up with a troublemaker with a penchant for green and mischief (is the movie Thor Ragnarock, or Wreck-It-Ralph?) Or that Disney musical about an indigenous girl from pre colonial times, who’s the daughter of the chief; and one day her dad is like “okay, homey - time to come of age and do the thing to take your place” but she doesn’t want to. Cuz she likes water, and it’s like a metaphor for freedom, and then she sings a song about the water, and goes to talk to her grandmother figure, who’s more spiritual than the rest of the tribe, and there’s this threat from across the sea, and her grandmother is like “hey, maybe that’s your destiny - go do that”. So she does, and spends some time palling around with this guy, with a big name celebrity voice actor, who’s actually really condescending and disrespectful to her, tbh, until she kinda fucks up and nearly gets him killed. So, then, at her lowest point, she talks to her grandmother and is like “I have no clue what I’m doing” and grandmother is like “nah, you got this” and in the final act, she saves the day, overcoming anger and violence, with her compassion. And thus, takes her place and leads her people into a new era, THE END (Pocahontas, or Moana)
The main differences: Katniss didn’t die at the end, and she didn’t get with her mentor😂 Edit: Mom I’m fam- jk lol. Also, I guess I started a war. Oh well
As I first read and watched Divergent, I loved it so much. I cried for 2 hours reading the ending of third book. Some years later I watched the Hunger games and the story and the way it's executed is way better.
Divergent literally made me throw the mf book across my room. It also sucked that her brother and my brother had the same name and coincidentally at the time my brother was a dick to me. That was the only relatable thing about it but it was not enough to save that trash ass ending
Because divergent copy the formula but they did a bad job of it so it’s to show how they copy it but we only like the hunger games. The first divergent book is the only good one.
The only difference is the hunger games movie was 100x better!! Don’t get me wrong I love the book divergent, I’ve read it 2 million times, but I hate the movie!!!! I can’t say the same for the hunger games. I absolutely freaking love the hunger games books and the movies just as much!!
Yep. And I love how all the people here kinda miss the point of this, making it into a discussion about how Divergent just copied everything THG has. As if those simplifications weren't made to talk about the formula, and not how one is a copy to the other. And as if it's not that all these two have in common is yhe genre
It’s obviously follows literary formula, I think the argument to be made is that it’s formula fiction. I believe the similarities between Divergent and THG are too similar to just be literary formula.
One big difference is Katniss survives in the end and ends up with Peeta where they have kids together and Tris dies in the end and Tris's love interest ends up with her friend Christina.
The main difference is one has depth and foundation for a children's dystopian tale that can spark thoughtful discussion about real world similarities even over a decade later and the other is Divergent.
Divergent is a pathetic cheap copy of the Hunger games while the hunger games had an interesting plot and premise, cool characters and a great story this movie had none of it.
The difference is in divergent, at the beginning Tris actually has very little skills unlike Katniss. She had nothing to show off to anyone other than she was brave enough to jump first and spoke when her fellow trainee were intimidated. Even her fellow trainee said "statistically you should've hit a target by now even by accident" after countless of failed knife throwing attempts. Tris was thrown out of the program and regained back her position after she was able to climbed up and see the flag.
Sadly the issue with her story is that there's no conflict in the movies (have not read the books) but the movies are basically done after she enters into her place/house. Honestly I can't even understand why she hates her family so much she doesn't even want to be with them. 😂😅 With Katniss you do have more conflict and that makes you root for the character ❤
I haven't read or watched Divergent, but Hunger Games sadly reflected so much from our society... And it's so normal for us, that the most people don't even recognise it... Hunger Games are really a master piece 👏🏼 🙌 👌🏻 😍
Yeah but thg (books and movies) did it so much better, divergent books are still very good but the movies uh... Well there's a reason why the last one was cancelled 💀
@@andreamontiel2032 The Hunger Games, definitely. Divergent and Insurgent are very enjoyable but what bothers me so much is Allegiant, it feels too rushed
Genres have tropes, and hunger games being the first saga at being successful in YA dystopia and particularly with a FMC and limited 1st person POV had the opportunity to set the tropes expected for the genre, which is why most of the following series of books pale in comparison, the authors satisfied themselves with fulfilling the tropes without wondering at the deeper meaning of their work which is crucial for a dystopian worldbuilding and that’s why most of them fall flat, yeah it’s entertaining, but if I want to be entertained I’ll read a YA/NA fantasy novel not a YA dystopia bc it’s easier for me to face mediocre world building and be like “it’s magic, don’t worry about it”
This is by far the best comment I've come across🤌🏻 apart from the 'and then she meets a kravitz' ones ofc because I agree with u 100% but it kinda gets boring when newly published books in the same trope have too many similarities with one that already set the standard for the trope. Kinda like how he's describing the scenes from the two movies here.
The dystopian young adult heroes' journey formula has been refined so well that each instance looks identical. This is why I like stories told by dice...
I was thinking about it recently, because I rewatched all of these movies, and I would also include The Maze Runner franchise, it's very similar in concept, except for the lead that is played by a boy 👌🏻
This is basically most Dystopian series in a nutshell. A post apocalyptic world, controlling government, and a young girl/guy trying to live and make things right. Again, this is a certain genre known as Dystopian. Some other ones (book form) are The Roar, The Giver, The City of Embers, and others.
Yeah, i love the giver by the way, don’t know they didn’t continue making films it was excellent in my point of view (and well, is way older than thg though i love thg)
As much as this can be debated on or agreed to. I'm hyper fixated on divergent, and I really never got INTO the hunger games, y'know? I only skimmed the pages and skipped a few, barely even remember it. I really wish the two could live in a better harmony ): But then again The hunger games -will not let go of a war -12 districts, FOR FIGHTING (Fails miserably) -No training, just display, -rebellion starts large -Mentor doesn't really like main character at the start Divergent -End of war, start of another -5 factions to keep the PEACE. (Also fails miserably) -training -Rebellion starts sneakily and small -mentor and student fall in love (Sorry if I got anything wrong :[ )
@@ammlikescookies631yeah the books are great, except that the ending broke my heart, aaand the fact that for some reason Verónica Roth thought that it would be a good idea to make four and Christina a couple, like what in the world was she thinking????
I couldn not get through Divergent without constantly zoning out and by the end I had to ask myself what the movie was even about😂. Atleast hunger games had good pacing.
I love that you think these two stories are actually this close to each other. You never opened ANY of the books, and if you watched the films you’d know that Divergent is not about a “post-apocalyptic government”.
I love Divergent ❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥 the books were great and the first movie was really good. The second movie was okay and we do not talk about the third movie but the books ❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥 except for the ending where Tris dies😭😭😭😭. whereas Hunger games books and movies were good. 🔥🔥🔥❤️. Prims death 😭😭😭😭😭😭. I enjoy both equally. 💯❤️❤️❤️❤️
That's because tris originally wasn't supposed to be the main character... Four was. Although I actually appreciated the death of the main character for once, usually they have to much plot armour.
Why did you read ALL the books if you couldn’t get into it?🤨 And why would you “hate” it just cause you couldn’t get into it? I also read all the books and I thought it was kinda cool. It wasn’t crazy good but neither was it really bad. And that’s coming from a very critical reader.
@@JustanotherTH-camr771 My best friend was reading the series and she wanted to talk about it with me even though I didn't enjoy it, she also told me the second one was better so I read it. After I read it and didn't enjoy it, I still read the third one because I can't leave a series unfinished, it's just something that I don't like doing, so I read it. I understand that some people really love the books or they didn't mind them, that's their opinion and I'll respect it. Some people hate The Hunger Games but I love them and that's my opinion. Not being able to get into the books was just partly the reason I disliked them, even though I know it's not a good reason, it's one of my reasons because I'm human and we're complicated fickle creatures. I also found most of the characters insufferable and I guess that ruined the plot for me. As I said I can't leave a book series unfinished so I read all of them, despite not enjoying it. If you don't believe me that's okay, I'm not asking you to belive me. I didn't like the books and you kinda did and that is okay, everyone has different opinions and way of doing things :)
The Divergent books were MUCH better than the movies imo, while the Hunger Games books and movies are much closer in quality. They even changed the ending of the Divergent movies from the books
I could said the same about this video, both films are based in young adult’s books and a have a heroine but the way you’re telling it just to be funny is a rip off of many others TH-camrs with more creativity.
That is what I was thinking throughout the entire Divergent book 😂 (Both books however hovered entirely different plots. Those are just some key elements of a science fiction book.)
katniss is a likeable and relatable main character. the main character from the divergent series (i cant and wont remember her name) entire monologue is: "im not like other girls"
“Then she meets a Kravitz” hahaha I hated that Kravitz casting for Divergent. Nothing like the book! Actually the entire movie was awful and did the book diiirrrtttyyyy
Ok...but the first Divergent movie came out in 2014 but the first Hunger Games came out in 2012 + Hunger Games already had a book series. So Divergent copied The Hunger Games.
I honestly hate, hate, *hate* divergent. I find the characters too similar to each other, for example katniss and “tris”. Omd as a die hard hunger games fan this makes me so angry.
Wait so your telling me similar plots exist? And genres have tropes? *And* Hollywood has nepotism?! Next you'll be telling me Star Wars and Harry Potter both follow the classic literary template of the hero's journey 👀
its in the title "the hunger games" no where in divergent is there a sporting event were 23 children die, there are 13 districts, and yes her clothes get set on fire that is a very vague description of how tris burned her clothes opposed to how Katniss's clothes were ignited in the parade of tributes, also in divergent the children have a choice at the choosing ceremonie while in the hunger games the tributes have absolutely no choice (exept if they voulenteer) to get reaped, so stop trying to compare these books/movies with your very vauge descriptions and lack of detail and depth its like trying to compare harry potter and the hobbit because they have a couple similarities but the overall plot differes in more ways than i can count. Honestly i could go on with the differences between these two movies for ages but I honestly think that ive proven my point enough for it to be understood "thank you for your consideration"
No, Hunger Games is a less exciting version of Battle Royale. Literally has the same plot points and the number of tributes 24, is turned around, it’s 42 which is how many students (BR’s equivalent to tributes) are in BR. And Battle Royale came out 12 years before and inspired Kill Bill (even one of the actresses was in Kill Bill. Divergent gets crapped on, when Hunger Games is barely original.
The Divergent books were far superior. I like the second movie, Insurgent, just because it has a lot of Jeanine Matthews in it who was played by Kate Winslet.😅
The bird on Katniss was given to her by an old lady. That she gave to Prim. In the movie. Somehow her lead stylist gets it, but it was not given to him. He just gave it back with permission from the game controllers. Because it wasn’t seen as a weapon.
actually prim gives her the mockingjay back when they say their goodbyes, and cinna gives it to katniss because every tribute was allowed a token from their district
Oh no, authors of similar sociohistorical context write similar dystopian stories because the problems society shows are the same!! Who would've known!!!🙄🙄
Yes. There are actually many stories with a plot just like this because both The Hunger Games and Divergent are very boiled down versions of the ya dystopian genre
After reading divergent, ive gotta say....i despise the movie. It was so bad and cringe and they even left out some key characters for absolutely no reason. This movie could have been een something. On the other hand, I rewatched the hunger games series 6 times now. Its so freaking good and the longer u wait to watch it again, the better it gets..
When these movies came out there was a bunch of similar teen movies all with the same stories released at the same time. I’m pretty sure this is when studios started hiring teenage fan fiction writers off the internet 😂
Bruh divergents movie was soo poooooooooor. I remember so many instant where i was sad they skipped certain dialogue and scenes. It felt rushed and same with the other movies
They are NOT the same did the heroine in the divergent have two love interests one that was her best friend and the other a baker who gave her bread? In the divergent did the heroine have to kiss somebody they didn't like for a sponsor to be able to live? In the divergent was there a whole team of people including the baker that made a plan that involved shooting an arrow to a force field so that they could all get out? In the divergent did the love interest get hijacked and tortured by the villain and remembered their lover to be a monster? In the divergent did the heroine have her sister killed by her best friend? In the divergent were their 13 districts one secret district? In the divergent did the heroine kill the leader of the secret district (13) instead of the overall villain? In the divergent was their mentor a participant in the games who was Smart and used a tactic the villain thought as cheating so they murdered his whole family and they resorted to alcohol to take out their problems? In the divergent did a character die after just marrying and having a kid? In the divergent was there a fashion designer killed to throw the heroine off their game? In the divergent did the heroine sacrifice herself for her sister to go into the games? In the divergent did the heroine shoot an apple with an arrow in judging? In the divergent did a character sacrifice them self into deadly fog so others would survive? In the divergent were there bugs that if you get hit by they make you hallucinate? In the divergent were there birds that copy used to record messages? In the divergent did the heroines sister have a cat? In the divergent did the villain burn down an orphanage for supporting the heroine? In the divergent did the heroine and her lover have two kids? In the divergent did the heroines lover trick the villains to win the audience over? In the divergent did they have interviews to get to know each contestant one revealing the heroines lovers love for the heroine? In the divergent when the heroine couldn't sleep did the heroines lover come in and stay with her so she wouldn't be scared? Anyway my point is they are very different movies and should not be called the same just because they have a lot of similarities
the difference being that the hunger games is an excellent satire and divergent comes across as an empty shell the way only an intention-less copy of a copy can.
That's because the author of Divergent ripped off the entire Hunger Games series and even admitted that she only changed the ending of Divergent (killed Tris off) in order to make it different from THG. Lol.
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"Then she meets a Kravitz" 😂
That one got me😂❤
What does it mean?
@@erynangel8800Cinna from THG is played by Lenny Kravitz and Christina from Divergent is played by his daughter Zoe Kravitz
@@victorjavierurenadiaz6413 oh that’s so funny!!! 😂
I wasn't prepared for that, so now im cleaning off soda from my bed, that i shot through my nose. We need a content warnign for jokes this good.
He missed the point where in both the movies the love interest is brainwashed to kill the heroine by manipulating his love for her 😂😂
Yeah and all Tris has to do is say I love you like twice and he remembers her again 🤣🤣
that’s in the other movie tho it both doesn’t happen in the first movie
True lmao
I forgot about this
Gotta keep it to the first flick, ofc
My mom wouldn’t let me see hunger games but let me see the divergent movies. When my mom explained what hungers games was about, she said that they put a bunch of kids in a room to fight to their death. And I had no idea what it was actually like so I imagined a dark concrete box-room with 10 year olds trying to use anything to beat each other up. And I was shocked when I finally got to see it.
Reminds me of that moment when my mom told me the Titanic movie was about a boat sinking, and I was picturing a small wooden boat with two lads on it. Gosh I was so dramatic at 8 years old
Lmao you're literally describing the new prequel
Thats literally the new movie 😂
My mom didn't like hunger games either and never watched it because of kids dying
I only remember the first divergent movie. I didn't know they made the other 2
The main difference is one was done much better than the other, I’m sure everyone can agree
which was made better ?
@@johndramountanisHunger Games
@@johndramountanisHunger Games
@@johndramountanisthe hunger games, movie! Love divergent books
@@Tuned1n hate Divergent books but yeah hunger games (books and movies) are done 100× better
Not them meeting a kravitz 😭
how the hell are there no replies on a comment with over 2000 likes
Cinna
I wanna fly away
That's because Divergent is the very first teen dystopia Hunger Games clone that completely missed the point of the thing they were copying
@@camilaramirez-od6hnlove the thg loyalty ✊ but that’s actually what the og comment said
@@camilaramirez-od6hn ... that's literally what I said?
@@camilaramirez-od6hn op literally just said that divergent was the first hunger games copy. they are acknowledging that the hunger games came first, please make sure you actually read what op said before talking 😅😅
@@caoixheI get it cuz it took me reading yours to understand it lmao
shut up the books were made at the same time
The Hunger Games is about how society romanticizes pain and violence. It shows that although some parts of the world are fine most of it isn’t, and that most victims of violence are not taken care of.
Divergent is about how although we try, humans are not perfect. Something bad may happen, and things don’t always go as plan. You may not be able to trust everybody, and that’s hard. You still have to try and lend people your trust.
Although they are very similar in abstract, in the sense that they comment on society, they are also very different. They demonstrate two different things about society.
divergent is not that good 😭 😭
@@yourbestam it’s quite poorly written. The author also may not have intended it to be interpreted as I did. However, that’s what I took away from it.
Hi fellow swiftie
@@yourbestamthe first two movies aren’t bad. The third one however…
That could describe both books.
This is very common among books of the same genre to have the exact same formula especially YA novels. Harry Potter lead to an increase of books about adolescents going to magical boarding school. Twilight led to an influx of Vampire vs Werewolf love triangle novels, and Six of Crows lead to an influx of teen heist novels. These “copies” always sell bc people want to read more of the same concept just with different adventures/characters.
So what you're saying is we, the fans, are the problem alright. I got it 😂😂😊 JK
House of the night was also a good series i wish it became movies or something
@Misaamanenoir Frankly I'm glad it didn't. I liked it as a kid, but there were a lot of problematic elements looking back...and so many things are nearly identical to Vampire Academy.
Even Darkest minds. The world is ending kinda and kids (always young people) are put in camps, they're looking for reds and oranges, orange is really rare, blablabla😂😂😂
Up next: a blond guy with a hammer goes after his colleague - a big, strong guy with anger issues - and teams up with a femme fatale with a tragic backstory to escape a bright, colorful world that’s locked into competition by a flamboyant overlord; and along the way teams up with a troublemaker with a penchant for green and mischief (is the movie Thor Ragnarock, or Wreck-It-Ralph?)
Or that Disney musical about an indigenous girl from pre colonial times, who’s the daughter of the chief; and one day her dad is like “okay, homey - time to come of age and do the thing to take your place” but she doesn’t want to. Cuz she likes water, and it’s like a metaphor for freedom, and then she sings a song about the water, and goes to talk to her grandmother figure, who’s more spiritual than the rest of the tribe, and there’s this threat from across the sea, and her grandmother is like “hey, maybe that’s your destiny - go do that”. So she does, and spends some time palling around with this guy, with a big name celebrity voice actor, who’s actually really condescending and disrespectful to her, tbh, until she kinda fucks up and nearly gets him killed. So, then, at her lowest point, she talks to her grandmother and is like “I have no clue what I’m doing” and grandmother is like “nah, you got this” and in the final act, she saves the day, overcoming anger and violence, with her compassion. And thus, takes her place and leads her people into a new era, THE END (Pocahontas, or Moana)
The main differences: Katniss didn’t die at the end, and she didn’t get with her mentor😂
Edit: Mom I’m fam- jk lol.
Also, I guess I started a war. Oh well
Also her mentor didn't hook up with her so called best friend.
@@lizsama9317i always ignore that rubbish plot Veronica came up with. Disgusting.
Oh no, now I imagined if Katniss said f you to Peeta and Gale and got with Haymitch 😂😂😂😂
She definitely has good vibes with haymitch 😂😂
@@nahicorua
pls don't put that in my head
I mean there's one thing that's different in The Hunger Games then the divergent is that Katniss's mom is still alive
And she is kind of like a zoombie 😂😂
The disrespect 💀
And in Divergent the sibling is alive!! (Forgot if it was a brother or sister tbh)
@@bitchgetter2000uh and the protagonist is Alive in hunger games
@@bitchgetter2000 I believe Tris has a sister. It’s been a while since I’ve watched or read Divergent
As I first read and watched Divergent, I loved it so much. I cried for 2 hours reading the ending of third book. Some years later I watched the Hunger games and the story and the way it's executed is way better.
Divergent literally made me throw the mf book across my room. It also sucked that her brother and my brother had the same name and coincidentally at the time my brother was a dick to me. That was the only relatable thing about it but it was not enough to save that trash ass ending
How can u say they are the same movie when later is copying the first 😂
Because divergent copy the formula but they did a bad job of it so it’s to show how they copy it but we only like the hunger games. The first divergent book is the only good one.
That is pretty much what they're saying
@@oliviapedersen8309 facts 💯 like the last movie/books made no sense
You're just so close to getting the point of the video, so close.
Cinna didn’t give her the bird it was the mayors daughter Madge
Cinna returned it to her after she left it on the train
Also in the movies she got it at a market I believe
That's what I was saying
@@romyjane17What!? Why would the movies change an important detail?
@@YourpookieRy they have to cut a lot of characters and small details, because the length of a movie is most often shorter than the whole book
The only difference is the hunger games movie was 100x better!! Don’t get me wrong I love the book divergent, I’ve read it 2 million times, but I hate the movie!!!! I can’t say the same for the hunger games. I absolutely freaking love the hunger games books and the movies just as much!!
I actually loved the first movie, but Insurgent changed the plot and Allegiant doesn't exist.
This is so right, I agree with you two
Yeah the divergent movies changed so much, even the point of the test to face their fears
good to know that the books are better 😭 i tried watching the movie and i couldn’t finish it cause i was cringing too much
Did you drop out of second grade?
As a literature college student, this called Literary Formula
thats so interesting lol, I didnt know there was a word
@@ily1ia yeah, its a little bit difficult theory btw
Yep. And I love how all the people here kinda miss the point of this, making it into a discussion about how Divergent just copied everything THG has. As if those simplifications weren't made to talk about the formula, and not how one is a copy to the other. And as if it's not that all these two have in common is yhe genre
@@ily1iawell a term, not a word lol but yea me either.
It’s obviously follows literary formula, I think the argument to be made is that it’s formula fiction. I believe the similarities between Divergent and THG are too similar to just be literary formula.
One big difference is Katniss survives in the end and ends up with Peeta where they have kids together and Tris dies in the end and Tris's love interest ends up with her friend Christina.
Bro stick to the movies I haven’t read the books but they sound messed up 😂
What ? Tris dies ??? How ??
I hated Tris but the love interest getting with her best friends is savage
The main difference is one has depth and foundation for a children's dystopian tale that can spark thoughtful discussion about real world similarities even over a decade later and the other is Divergent.
Divergent is a pathetic cheap copy of the Hunger games while the hunger games had an interesting plot and premise, cool characters and a great story this movie had none of it.
The "then she meets a Kravitz" 😂😂😂
I didn't even connect that piece until this clip
Then she meets a Kravitz 😂😂😂 dying
The difference is in divergent, at the beginning Tris actually has very little skills unlike Katniss. She had nothing to show off to anyone other than she was brave enough to jump first and spoke when her fellow trainee were intimidated. Even her fellow trainee said "statistically you should've hit a target by now even by accident" after countless of failed knife throwing attempts. Tris was thrown out of the program and regained back her position after she was able to climbed up and see the flag.
Sadly the issue with her story is that there's no conflict in the movies (have not read the books) but the movies are basically done after she enters into her place/house. Honestly I can't even understand why she hates her family so much she doesn't even want to be with them. 😂😅 With Katniss you do have more conflict and that makes you root for the character ❤
“then she meets a Kravitz” absolutely took me out 😂😂
I haven't read or watched Divergent, but Hunger Games sadly reflected so much from our society...
And it's so normal for us, that the most people don't even recognise it...
Hunger Games are really a master piece 👏🏼 🙌 👌🏻 😍
Yeah but thg (books and movies) did it so much better, divergent books are still very good but the movies uh... Well there's a reason why the last one was cancelled 💀
Which one would you say is a better trilogy divergent or The Hunger Games
@@andreamontiel2032 The Hunger Games, definitely. Divergent and Insurgent are very enjoyable but what bothers me so much is Allegiant, it feels too rushed
@@monica15326 omgosh I thought you weren’t gonna answer😂
Thanks cuz I wanna read divergent but I gotta finish the catching fire (sooo good 10/10)
"then she meets a Kravitz" 💀 😂
Genres have tropes, and hunger games being the first saga at being successful in YA dystopia and particularly with a FMC and limited 1st person POV had the opportunity to set the tropes expected for the genre, which is why most of the following series of books pale in comparison, the authors satisfied themselves with fulfilling the tropes without wondering at the deeper meaning of their work which is crucial for a dystopian worldbuilding and that’s why most of them fall flat, yeah it’s entertaining, but if I want to be entertained I’ll read a YA/NA fantasy novel not a YA dystopia bc it’s easier for me to face mediocre world building and be like “it’s magic, don’t worry about it”
This is by far the best comment I've come across🤌🏻 apart from the 'and then she meets a kravitz' ones ofc because I agree with u 100% but it kinda gets boring when newly published books in the same trope have too many similarities with one that already set the standard for the trope. Kinda like how he's describing the scenes from the two movies here.
The dystopian young adult heroes' journey formula has been refined so well that each instance looks identical. This is why I like stories told by dice...
I was thinking about it recently, because I rewatched all of these movies, and I would also include The Maze Runner franchise, it's very similar in concept, except for the lead that is played by a boy 👌🏻
The maze runner was an interesting concept for the first book, then the rest got weird and off track.
@@Blake1720 I wouldn't say it got weird, I think all of them were fun, I had a good time watching 🤷🏻♂️
@@Luke_Balbino I guess after they got out of the maze it was kind of not put together well, in the movies anyways.
@@Blake1720 Gotcha! I feel like they were solid from my perspective.
@@Blake1720i agree, I the first one was the best
Comparing the hunger games to divergent is a crime.
This is basically most Dystopian series in a nutshell. A post apocalyptic world, controlling government, and a young girl/guy trying to live and make things right. Again, this is a certain genre known as Dystopian. Some other ones (book form) are The Roar, The Giver, The City of Embers, and others.
Yeah, i love the giver by the way, don’t know they didn’t continue making films it was excellent in my point of view (and well, is way older than thg though i love thg)
The City of Embers is one of my favorites
Hungergames was the best
The starving games is slightly better
Hmmm because the Divergent was a Hunger Games copycat
Divergent came out almost exactly two years after The Hunger Games
The Hunger Games: March 23, 2012
Divergent: March 21, 2014
Never notice the meeting of the Kravitz 😭
As much as this can be debated on or agreed to. I'm hyper fixated on divergent, and I really never got INTO the hunger games, y'know? I only skimmed the pages and skipped a few, barely even remember it.
I really wish the two could live in a better harmony ):
But then again
The hunger games
-will not let go of a war
-12 districts, FOR FIGHTING
(Fails miserably)
-No training, just display,
-rebellion starts large
-Mentor doesn't really like main character at the start
Divergent
-End of war, start of another
-5 factions to keep the PEACE.
(Also fails miserably)
-training
-Rebellion starts sneakily and small
-mentor and student fall in love
(Sorry if I got anything wrong :[ )
Divergent did nothing to add on to Hunger Games, it just copied it and made it worse in every way
Agreed!
the books were great actually ! but the movies
horrendous
@@ammlikescookies631yeah the books are great, except that the ending broke my heart, aaand the fact that for some reason Verónica Roth thought that it would be a good idea to make four and Christina a couple, like what in the world was she thinking????
The fact that divergent came out almost exactly two years after hunger games 😂
It’s so obvious they were copying the entire plot
I couldn not get through Divergent without constantly zoning out and by the end I had to ask myself what the movie was even about😂. Atleast hunger games had good pacing.
Not necessarily! It’s just both follow the same formula! Lots of movies do that within the same genre.
I love that you think these two stories are actually this close to each other. You never opened ANY of the books, and if you watched the films you’d know that Divergent is not about a “post-apocalyptic government”.
I love Divergent ❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥 the books were great and the first movie was really good. The second movie was okay and we do not talk about the third movie but the books ❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥 except for the ending where Tris dies😭😭😭😭. whereas Hunger games books and movies were good. 🔥🔥🔥❤️. Prims death 😭😭😭😭😭😭. I enjoy both equally. 💯❤️❤️❤️❤️
I hate the divergent movies sm! The book was amazing tho!
That's because tris originally wasn't supposed to be the main character... Four was.
Although I actually appreciated the death of the main character for once, usually they have to much plot armour.
Read both, watched both, LOVED both! Wish there were more of this genre! Absolutely obsessed with both! ❤️
there are many Red Queen, powerless those are more fantasy but they have the trials.
Did anyone else just hate divergent? Like I read all the books and watched the movies but I just could never get into it.
Why did you read ALL the books if you couldn’t get into it?🤨
And why would you “hate” it just cause you couldn’t get into it?
I also read all the books and I thought it was kinda cool. It wasn’t crazy good but neither was it really bad. And that’s coming from a very critical reader.
@@JustanotherTH-camr771 My best friend was reading the series and she wanted to talk about it with me even though I didn't enjoy it, she also told me the second one was better so I read it. After I read it and didn't enjoy it, I still read the third one because I can't leave a series unfinished, it's just something that I don't like doing, so I read it.
I understand that some people really love the books or they didn't mind them, that's their opinion and I'll respect it. Some people hate The Hunger Games but I love them and that's my opinion.
Not being able to get into the books was just partly the reason I disliked them, even though I know it's not a good reason, it's one of my reasons because I'm human and we're complicated fickle creatures. I also found most of the characters insufferable and I guess that ruined the plot for me.
As I said I can't leave a book series unfinished so I read all of them, despite not enjoying it. If you don't believe me that's okay, I'm not asking you to belive me.
I didn't like the books and you kinda did and that is okay, everyone has different opinions and way of doing things :)
itd be cool if they have a crossover: The Divergent Games
Growing up, I often have mixed memories about these two movies
Ask yourself the question: which one was made first?
Hunger games was made almost exactly 2 years before divergent
each dystopian anything plot bulletpoints:
Then she meets a Kravitz 😭 that's so funnnyy
The Divergent books were MUCH better than the movies imo, while the Hunger Games books and movies are much closer in quality. They even changed the ending of the Divergent movies from the books
I could said the same about this video, both films are based in young adult’s books and a have a heroine but the way you’re telling it just to be funny is a rip off of many others TH-camrs with more creativity.
Its not that theyre the same thats just the theme of most dystopian/sci fi films
THE SHE MEETS A KRAVITZ KILLED ME
Actually, for the hunger games, cinna did not give katniss the mockingjay pin, Madge did.
DONT YOU DARE COMPARE KATNISS TO TRIS
Divergent is the temu version of hunger games
If you read the books you will see how different they are, oh and Katniss have a happy ending Tris ended up dead
I love both
Yeah me too, and the fact that there are no more books/movies like this any more makes me kinda sad.
That is what I was thinking throughout the entire Divergent book 😂
(Both books however hovered entirely different plots. Those are just some key elements of a science fiction book.)
katniss is a likeable and relatable main character. the main character from the divergent series (i cant and wont remember her name) entire monologue is: "im not like other girls"
Of course, meeting a Kravitz is a key plot point 😂
THEN SHE MEETS A KRAVITZ 😂😂😂😂
And these movies were awesome and I hope we make them again. They hit different you can’t lie
Divergent was dog shit 💀
Ugh dont compare them. Divergent had potential and fell flat. I listen to hunger games books multiple times a year lol. Such a good series
“Then she meets a Kravitz” hahaha I hated that Kravitz casting for Divergent. Nothing like the book! Actually the entire movie was awful and did the book diiirrrtttyyyy
Actually I kind of liked the first movie, the second and third though are trash
Hunger Games movies and books are masterpieces.
Divergent is just a trash copy.
You can not compare the Hunger Games to that.
Anyone seen battle royal( japanese) came out before hunger games
The true trauma
Ok...but the first Divergent movie came out in 2014 but the first Hunger Games came out in 2012 + Hunger Games already had a book series. So Divergent copied The Hunger Games.
I honestly hate, hate, *hate* divergent. I find the characters too similar to each other, for example katniss and “tris”. Omd as a die hard hunger games fan this makes me so angry.
Wait so your telling me similar plots exist?
And genres have tropes?
*And* Hollywood has nepotism?!
Next you'll be telling me Star Wars and Harry Potter both follow the classic literary template of the hero's journey 👀
its in the title "the hunger games" no where in divergent is there a sporting event were 23 children die, there are 13 districts, and yes her clothes get set on fire that is a very vague description of how tris burned her clothes opposed to how Katniss's clothes were ignited in the parade of tributes, also in divergent the children have a choice at the choosing ceremonie while in the hunger games the tributes have absolutely no choice (exept if they voulenteer) to get reaped, so stop trying to compare these books/movies with your very vauge descriptions and lack of detail and depth its like trying to compare harry potter and the hobbit because they have a couple similarities but the overall plot differes in more ways than i can count. Honestly i could go on with the differences between these two movies for ages but I honestly think that ive proven my point enough for it to be understood "thank you for your consideration"
No, Hunger Games is a less exciting version of Battle Royale. Literally has the same plot points and the number of tributes 24, is turned around, it’s 42 which is how many students (BR’s equivalent to tributes) are in BR. And Battle Royale came out 12 years before and inspired Kill Bill (even one of the actresses was in Kill Bill. Divergent gets crapped on, when Hunger Games is barely original.
Nobody needs to see the movie after watching this video. That's if there's anyone who hasn't already seen it.
I love love love both these and I’ve been thought about all these before this is awesome!! I’ve always known they were similar but wow!!!
Meeting a Kravitz was essential
The Divergent books were far superior. I like the second movie, Insurgent, just because it has a lot of Jeanine Matthews in it who was played by Kate Winslet.😅
The bird on Katniss was given to her by an old lady. That she gave to Prim. In the movie. Somehow her lead stylist gets it, but it was not given to him. He just gave it back with permission from the game controllers. Because it wasn’t seen as a weapon.
actually prim gives her the mockingjay back when they say their goodbyes, and cinna gives it to katniss because every tribute was allowed a token from their district
it wasn't an old lady it was the mayor of district 12's daughter
@@anastasiagt3615 i think they mean in the movie, it's an old lady that gives her the pin in the market
@@anastasiagt3615Yes your are correct, Madge who is the district 12 mayors daughter gave Katniss the mocking jay pin
Oh no, authors of similar sociohistorical context write similar dystopian stories because the problems society shows are the same!! Who would've known!!!🙄🙄
How dare you compare the hunger games to divergent. (Divergent bad. My opinion)
Yes. There are actually many stories with a plot just like this because both The Hunger Games and Divergent are very boiled down versions of the ya dystopian genre
straight up copying
The only difference is that Divergent 👎🏻 The Hunger Games 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Why are you filming yourself?
After reading divergent, ive gotta say....i despise the movie. It was so bad and cringe and they even left out some key characters for absolutely no reason. This movie could have been een something. On the other hand, I rewatched the hunger games series 6 times now. Its so freaking good and the longer u wait to watch it again, the better it gets..
You missed the point so badly it's a little funny but a lot annoying.
Except that Hunger Games is much better
I love both series. Every time I finish hunger games I watch divergent afterwards, those two are my most favourite movie series to watch
Every story has been written down in its most basic component. You need to adjust it and change it. But a lot of things will always been the same.
When these movies came out there was a bunch of similar teen movies all with the same stories released at the same time.
I’m pretty sure this is when studios started hiring teenage fan fiction writers off the internet 😂
Bruh divergents movie was soo poooooooooor. I remember so many instant where i was sad they skipped certain dialogue and scenes. It felt rushed and same with the other movies
Don’t even think about comparing divergent to the hunger games. They never even finished the last divergent movie bc it was so terrible
They are NOT the same did the heroine in the divergent have two love interests one that was her best friend and the other a baker who gave her bread? In the divergent did the heroine have to kiss somebody they didn't like for a sponsor to be able to live? In the divergent was there a whole team of people including the baker that made a plan that involved shooting an arrow to a force field so that they could all get out? In the divergent did the love interest get hijacked and tortured by the villain and remembered their lover to be a monster? In the divergent did the heroine have her sister killed by her best friend? In the divergent were their 13 districts one secret district? In the divergent did the heroine kill the leader of the secret district (13) instead of the overall villain? In the divergent was their mentor a participant in the games who was Smart and used a tactic the villain thought as cheating so they murdered his whole family and they resorted to alcohol to take out their problems? In the divergent did a character die after just marrying and having a kid? In the divergent was there a fashion designer killed to throw the heroine off their game? In the divergent did the heroine sacrifice herself for her sister to go into the games? In the divergent did the heroine shoot an apple with an arrow in judging? In the divergent did a character sacrifice them self into deadly fog so others would survive? In the divergent were there bugs that if you get hit by they make you hallucinate? In the divergent were there birds that copy used to record messages? In the divergent did the heroines sister have a cat? In the divergent did the villain burn down an orphanage for supporting the heroine? In the divergent did the heroine and her lover have two kids? In the divergent did the heroines lover trick the villains to win the audience over? In the divergent did they have interviews to get to know each contestant one revealing the heroines lovers love for the heroine? In the divergent when the heroine couldn't sleep did the heroines lover come in and stay with her so she wouldn't be scared?
Anyway my point is they are very different movies and should not be called the same just because they have a lot of similarities
yeah we all know divergent tryed to copy hunger games, published after and way less successfull
He got me at kravitz like yeah man!! Srsly dodnt notice that at all hahahaha
the difference being that the hunger games is an excellent satire and divergent comes across as an empty shell the way only an intention-less copy of a copy can.
ah no wonder my memory is always mixed these film and I didn't remember which one is hunger game in my memory and which one is the divergent😅
I made my friend who has watched both movies listen to this without looking and guess what the movie is about 😂
It's not the same but maze runner is similar to both hunger games and divergent all 10/10 movie es
Please don’t compare the genius of Hunger Games with the complete shit show of Divergent
oh come on, this was clearly about the hunger games, divergent wasn‘t that good
Ngl Hunger Games did it better! Especially with Snow (he is the best character in that franchise! Can’t wait for the Finnick fans tho)
Dust the girl that plays Primm in the hunger games also plays the main character in the other movie?
That's because the author of Divergent ripped off the entire Hunger Games series and even admitted that she only changed the ending of Divergent (killed Tris off) in order to make it different from THG. Lol.