The fact that they make money primarily by manufacturing the orthotics means they're going to be pressuring clinics to prescribe more, they even said that's what they focused on in year 3, makes the integrity of those diagnoses highly suspect.
@@umungus518 "so the movie goes like this: the biggest drug cartels in the world get together and buy up all the media and all the politicians and force all the people in the world to stay locked in their homes. and people can only come out if they take the cartel’s drugs, and keep taking them over and over. i threw the script away! i mean, who was going to believe that crazy idea?" - woody harrelson
@@umungus518 now imagine...just theoretically...a company....that invents a problem, because they sell the solution....Would of course never happen...no..never.
Man that "Del Boy Trotter" reference went way over my American head, now I'm loving this show called Only Fools and Horses. British humor is on another level!
I'm only 2 minutes in and already I know this guy is the type to go through everything he is going to say with a thesaurus to make himself sound more clever.
From experience - they do cost £200+ and I've got mine over 3 years ago, BUT those are extremely strong production-wise and fit in a lot of shoes, so I haven't had to buy a new pair yet and got rid of the slight discomfort in my knees.
I paid almost $500 for a pair of those bogus inserts. Not only did they not help me but I could only wear them in one pair of my shoes. You have to have a shoe that has an insert that can be removed so you can put their insert in it and how many pairs of shoes do YOU have that you can pull the insert out of? Now, with that said. Both my sister and my mother have worn shoe inserts most all of their lives and cannot walk without pain without them so they do work for some people. These guys are definitely what they say because they sound just like the doctor I went to and I had bunion surgery.
They have these sorts of machines at a runners shoe store in my neighborhood...and after watching them use it on a handful of customers while we browsed, the advice was always "you need additional ankle support"
When I see Richard Farleigh in these old uploads, I still feel so bad for him that they kicked him out. He had even moved permanently from Australia to the UK to continue on his Dragons Den journey.. but, alas, the powers that be couldn't care less and poor Richard was gutted!
I used one of these at a sports shop. I was having a lot of issues when I started running longer miles. They were able to tell me more about my gait and what shoe was the best for me, plus I got a custom made sole. I never had any problems after that and was able to run further, longer and so much more comfortably. I know this episode is old.
@@craigross4565there is actually something to it, believe it or not. Your gait can tell you a lot about current and future issues for example. Sir Alex Ferguson was one who was interested in signing a young Raheem Sterling for Manchester United. But when the sports scientists at the club raised issues around sterling's gait, the advice was that his career would be shortened due to the effect of it on his knees (may have been hips, I forget). Therefore the advice was not to sign Sterling.
Imagine the great businesses we'll never see or know of because the humans weren't narcissist enough to force their way into the market w a rehashed idea or alleged invention
I was suspicious of them right from the ultra polished pitched and extra fluffy words. If they want to know its not working, maybe its because their shoe insert costs 3x of the shoe.
basically every single person has a flaw on their foot and they will sell you an expensive "remedy" to fix it. the remedy for your specific fault seems to be the one-size-fits-all shoe insert!! what a scam.
So many red flags with these guys. Emotionless pitch, very high prices, medical examination in like 5 seconds......, 'buy this or some day you will have a problem' This is very icky
@@oxymoron02 yes it's a great system. Unfortunately here we pay at point of use to see a doctor. €50 usually. So people are very accustomed to pay for l kinds of treatments, directly. Hence there are lots of private physios. Even public hospitals bill for the accommodation and food.
If he can make 170k profit in Ireland and he wants 70k to help the UK company (a market nearly 20 times the size of the Irish one) why doesn't he take 70k from the Irish profits to grow the UK company and keep the equity? Did I miss something?
@@andipandi5641 Which is bullshit. The reason why international companies lump the UK and Ireland together is you can market to both as one entity with some price localisation and a local voiceover in adverts for Ireland. The British don't even mind if the voiceover has an Irish voice in the UK. For most successful Irish companies the obvious first place to expand has always been the UK. Paddy Power, when it decided to expand, didn't choose Greece as its first port of call. It chose the UK, used the same marketing strategy and the same tactics. Look at Flutter now.
@@peterd788 i think his point was that he has been a doctor for 10 years in ireland. so he was well-connected there and could basically just sell these devices to his existing contacts. whereas in the UK he doesn't know enough orthopedic doctors to get everyone to buy it.
@@dertdood I was part of a startup in Dublin over 20 years ago and from day one we cultivated contacts in the UK because it's a market that offers no cultural, legal or procedural resistance to an Irish firm. If you were based in Ballsbridge you could get to London quicker than Cork and find common purpose with the footy in the pub. Maybe because he was Canadian he was a bit nervous but I suspect he was just a conman.
Takes me back to late 90s/ early 00’s when folk paid £300 for insoles. The dragons dodged a bullet here- it’s all about good trainers now. 👍 ps- watched this while having breakfast…… roll on another at lunch 😃
This is still going. I had a mild defect and my foot hurt. Was told I needed special shoes and insoles. Close to €700 Didn't solve anything. Switched to barefoot shoes and my problems were gone. Orthopedics is a scam
I get that custom sole inserts can help some people but basing the results on only one step per foot makes it seem unreliable I remember seeing Dr.Scholls kiosks in stores and at least then if it need one I can get it right off the shelf on its side
Has no one else noticed this is the exact same thing as those Dr. Scholl's machines at Wal-Mart. You stand on it with your shoes off and it scans your foot and recommends which of their shoe inserts are the right fit for you. I've actually had them before and they are pretty nice 👌
@@tommydenato8863 You’ve missed the point. It was perfectly acceptable to say that back then. You can’t judge someone’s language from the past Mr hindsight.
He's not just using buzz words. He knows the science and knows if you break it down that if you use an insole, your walking posture and your whole upper leg and body will change for the better. I have mild cerebral palsy and struggle to walk flat feet all my life and its caused some problems. If they had these insoles when I was younger maybe they would have helped me instead of plaster casts and splints.
@@TheManInBlueFlames Yes it's quite standard technology but he's one of those typical salespeople that tries to dazzle with jargon. You can guarantee that he'd pitch it as "using AI" in 2021. Edit: added quotations
I've talked to actual experts in the foot field and doctors and such. When I was younger, I was given a very similar explanation, without as much of the jargon. He is basically saying the same thing.
They where wrong I trailed a pair or work boots made by a company using a very similar machine to this one, making separate insoles to fit the shape of my feet now everyone that works for the firm and it's a world wide one has a pair, I'm out and I don't always get it right, springs to mind.
Are you having a laugh? Bloke on the right has a knot in his tie about as wide as his entire neck. Looks like a little kid playing dress-ups in his dad's wardrobe.
@@wintermute8315 A Canadian accent is not the same as an American accent. No need to be pedantic. Quite clear they’re talking about countries not continents.
@@numberonehater1239 They can sound quite similar though. Cultures, including accents, can and do spill over borders, so you can have someone who was born and raised in the US, and someone who was born and raised in Canada, sounding nearly identical to each other because they aren't actually that far removed from each other despite residing in different countries. For an example of this, look at the stereotypical Minnesota or Wisconsin accents, which can sound very similar to a Canadian from somewhere like Manitoba to an untrained ear.
He said in Ireland there’s 3 million people, when there’s 7.2 million. Over two and a half time off. How can he be that off in his own original market!
There should be a show where they say to the dragons, here’s a problem I’ve found, here’s my idea, how can I move forward with it and structure it in a way so that when I present to the panel, you will want to invest? Like a screening for business, that also filters the idea before they waste time, money and energy on it!
Sadly these entrepreneurs believed their pitch was a shoe in until the dragons gave them the boot. Accepting defeet and turning on their heels to flee was the only thing left for them to do. No doubt one of them has a rich ankle that invested.
The entrepreneurs had a successful business selling orthopedics in Northern Ireland which was trying without success to expand to rest of Britain. They wanted to split the business in two and have the dragons invest in the unsuccessful part whilst keeping the successful part entirely for themselves.
do not know what they turned out, but the same tech is available all over now. went to a clinic in sweden that did a similar scan of my feet to make inserts.
@@kerberos623 my chiropractor sold me those several years ago. He said they were a Candian company . had exactly the same setup and sent data to Canada .Insoles would be delivered 4 or 5 weeks later. If he could get that .Cant see why any other qualified practitioner wouldnt be ableto
It was pretty much snake oil though, the technology shown here never took off and for a good reason, because it’s an over glorified foot scanning device. I agree, sometimes the dragons can be pretentious arseholes, but not this time, these two were essentially selling a scam.
@@maxpayneful4328 The panel that measures foot pressure and extrapolates information in order to determine MSK discrepancies and dysfunction in gait, is a piece of equipment that has long been used in podiatry. That doesn't mean to say that their pitch was deserved of investment, however, to say that the "technology shown here never took off", is simply untrue. I don't wish to start a debate, but as a podiatrist who uses such technology (albeit an updated version of), I feel as though I have to defend it somewhat.
they don't look down on people but if someones going to come in asking for your investment you are going to quiz them on every nook and cranny. One loose screw and the whole thing comes down
Obviously I can see why you would like to keep your already successful business off the table when looking for an investment into a much less successful company but I also see how it’s a bit insulting and not at all reassuring to be the investor finding out that you want to use their money to grow your failing business while keeping your profitable business completely separate.
tbf i do wear orthotic insoles in my shoes and they alleviated my back and hip pain really well - i think they may actually have something useful if they could sell it
The NHS prescribed my custom orthotics. I got them for the price of sny other NHS prescription. Before that, I spent £20 on aamazon orthotics insoles. This is a rip-off
Two clowns... had they pulled the wool over the eyes of the dragons the deal wouldn't have gone through when their teams looked over the accounts and the fine details of the deal. They may have even pulled the clip before it made it on TV or reduced the time taken. Pitching UK & Ireland, and trying to do the deal with just Great Britain... an area they are failing to get into... made lemons out of themselves.
I had the same suspicion. Real doctors wouldn't be trying to flog this system. They are just chiropractors. The Dr is just a courtesy title, which makes them sound legitimate.
I don't think these orthopedic products would help me, but I'll stand corrected.
They helped me.
😂 one of the better puns I've seen on the internet.
I see what you did there
Ok, that is a big brain pun
😅
Richard Farley seemed like a really cool guy. Looks like a Scandinavian attacking midfielder who takes deadly set-pieces
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
he looks like the actor from team america
@@chyatt93 who does he play for?
Somebody said he looks the Prince charming from shrek and I cant ever see anything else now🤣
@@DaisyDoom good shout. I definitely could see him with an underarmour baselayer under a short sleeved jersey taking corners and free-kicks
"Modemed through cyberspace"
Has to be the best techno-babble I have heard to date
Yeah, that perked my ears up too.
That set off a warning bell, but the "synergistic" bullshit got all the alarms blaring. Even their buzzwords are woefully out of date!
@@233kosta yep
The 90s called, they want their marketing department back
@@lord_scrubington r/UnexpectedArcher 😁
absolutely 😂
"Honestly, the only direction I can give you is to the stairs" - Duncan 😂
😂😂
I keep pigeons for food and sex
Dunc is blunt and to the point 😂
They should be allowed to say we're all out just Get Out
Somewhere out there, Rory is hunting seaweed on the cold lonely beaches of east and west scotland.
😭😭😭😭!
Best job in the world
😂😂😂😂
What's the Rory comment about please? I see if everywhere. Is it DD. related?
@@neva.2764search "dragons den seaweed" on TH-cam and I think it's the first video to pop up
“Modemed through cyberspace” what a guy.
It's like showing people a tempting cake. Then gradually telling them they don't get it with the icing, filling, or spongy bits.
*when the entrepreneur mentions a second business*
Peter Jones: Is for me? 🌝🌚
🤣🤣🤣
Not sure why Theo wanted their Ltd company accounts - they are obviously sole traders...
You mean sole trainers
@@annajones9701 well played 😂
Boom!! 🤣🤣
Had to back. Nearly missed this one..🤣🤣🤣
The fact that they make money primarily by manufacturing the orthotics means they're going to be pressuring clinics to prescribe more, they even said that's what they focused on in year 3, makes the integrity of those diagnoses highly suspect.
Yupp, and those thing don't last forever and i bet they push to come back every year, ending up with new 'issues' and cost.
Good point
Welcome to the world of pharmaceutical companies. Now imagine a company with billions upon billions of dollars doing the same thing with drugs.
@@umungus518
"so the movie goes like this: the biggest drug cartels in the world get together and buy up all the media and all the politicians and force all the people in the world to stay locked in their homes. and people can only come out if they take the cartel’s drugs, and keep taking them over and over. i threw the script away! i mean, who was going to believe that crazy idea?"
- woody harrelson
@@umungus518 now imagine...just theoretically...a company....that invents a problem, because they sell the solution....Would of course never happen...no..never.
Man that "Del Boy Trotter" reference went way over my American head, now I'm loving this show called Only Fools and Horses. British humor is on another level!
Glad your enjoying it!
It's One of the best shows ever made glad you're enjoying it
Grandaaaaad!!
This Dragon's Den episode was well worth it if it introduced you to Only Fools & Horses.
Glad you're enjoying the show!
You should try 'Red Dwarf' if you like British comedy.
Why can I always imagine Evan Davies quietly highfiving himself everytime he makes a pun? 🤣
Can't believe they actually managed to unironically shoehorn "synergy" into their pitch
Synergistic, even.
@@wintermute8315 Indeed!
Also 'looking to align' for 'we want your money'.
@@TrulyMadlyShallowly I wonder if those tech support scammers won't get more money if they said that too
@@wintermute8315 That did sound silly. There was no need for it, (over) use of buzzwords doesnt make a better product.
He's confusing profit with his personal salary.
That’s exactly what I thought-now he’s made it look like the business isn’t making a damn penny… I’m no expert, at all, but even I knew what he meant…
I'm only 2 minutes in and already I know this guy is the type to go through everything he is going to say with a thesaurus to make himself sound more clever.
they got off on the wrong foot
Dunno jesus what u smoke, but the pitch was bang on. Words weren’t “sophisticated” at all..
@ JesusJuenger. Sounds like you have pretty low self esteem and had to dig deep to come up with that bizarre criticism.
*theosaurus
@@moneymanflacko7206 It was full of buzzword bs.
I used to work in a shoe recycling shop, it was really sole destroying
Did you leave at your own choice? Or did you get the boot?
I'm shoe you at least had pretty good salary.
Couldn’t you just repair the sole at your shop? 🤔
...but my sore foot got heeled.
oh, put a sock in it, you guys!
From experience - they do cost £200+ and I've got mine over 3 years ago, BUT those are extremely strong production-wise and fit in a lot of shoes, so I haven't had to buy a new pair yet and got rid of the slight discomfort in my knees.
NHS can prescribe them. Much cheaper. You got ripped off
@@roseedge5626you take pleasure with this don't you
Theo Paphitis’ Feet is why they call him Theo The Feet Us
👏👏👏🤣🤣😂 Awesome comment Zachary 💯💎👍
And when he was in the Womb he was called "Theo the Foetus"
Theo Myfeethurts
Or Theo Pafeetis!
The Fetuses Feet
I paid almost $500 for a pair of those bogus inserts. Not only did they not help me but I could only wear them in one pair of my shoes. You have to have a shoe that has an insert that can be removed so you can put their insert in it and how many pairs of shoes do YOU have that you can pull the insert out of?
Now, with that said. Both my sister and my mother have worn shoe inserts most all of their lives and cannot walk without pain without them so they do work for some people. These guys are definitely what they say because they sound just like the doctor I went to and I had bunion surgery.
Hi company owner
@@TheFbiFilesRepeat Right, I'm a 67 year old retired female living on social security and very little at that. I only wish I was a company owner.
I am a Podiatrist and agree with most of what you say
They have these sorts of machines at a runners shoe store in my neighborhood...and after watching them use it on a handful of customers while we browsed, the advice was always "you need additional ankle support"
Spot on. They told my brother that too, and this was after he'd lost both legs in a car accident in 1987
When I see Richard Farleigh in these old uploads, I still feel so bad for him that they kicked him out. He had even moved permanently from Australia to the UK to continue on his Dragons Den journey.. but, alas, the powers that be couldn't care less and poor Richard was gutted!
He had the wrong skin colour
Somehow I think he’ll have managed. I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over him
@@cwang6951 You're a weirdo.
@@cwang6951 true, unlike black man Peter
Why was he removed?
1:02 this is where Peter knew they were chatting bs 😂😂😂
Nothing beats having dinner and watching a fresh new old school dragons den video.
Your*
It’s lunch.
Lunch
@@Jimmie92 if you’re a posh toff it is. It’s dinner everywhere else, and tea if your having it later in afternoon
@@Deleted11100 thank you very much for this
Peter's face when Theo took his socks off was quite disturbing
They felt the anatomical chain of stairs on the way out.
Peter forgot to point out, "Modemed through cyberspace to a lab."
I used one of these at a sports shop. I was having a lot of issues when I started running longer miles. They were able to tell me more about my gait and what shoe was the best for me, plus I got a custom made sole. I never had any problems after that and was able to run further, longer and so much more comfortably. I know this episode is old.
Have you been paid by these too for promotional purposes
@@craigross4565there is actually something to it, believe it or not. Your gait can tell you a lot about current and future issues for example. Sir Alex Ferguson was one who was interested in signing a young Raheem Sterling for Manchester United. But when the sports scientists at the club raised issues around sterling's gait, the advice was that his career would be shortened due to the effect of it on his knees (may have been hips, I forget). Therefore the advice was not to sign Sterling.
I love Richard Farley he is one of 7 kids and he had a really rough up bringing just shows anyone can make it
He is one of 11 kids.
Imagine the great businesses we'll never see or know of because the humans weren't narcissist enough to force their way into the market w a rehashed idea or alleged invention
Del boy and rodney should do comic relief appearance that be great
I was suspicious of them right from the ultra polished pitched and extra fluffy words. If they want to know its not working, maybe its because their shoe insert costs 3x of the shoe.
They were looking for a dragon to be their men-toe
please shut up
It's quite a feet even getting this far, to be honest.
High arches
Distributor s have territory rights, but no core business proprietary rights. they are selling smoke
I a shoe you that's right.
"taxing in the whole kinetic chain" Oh, sod off.
I can tell you why it's profitable in Ireland but not the UK: NHS
Yeah, why pay for a quality product that can help you in the long run when you can keep returning to the hospital for shitty service for free.
@@rohilthomson you'd think but you can never beat free.
@@rohilthomson shitty service? Move to a foreign country if you feel that way
@@rohilthomson Fortunately we have knowledgeable people like you to educate us about the quality of hospital services
HSE in Ireland.
2:40 "Oh no!" How terrible to be asked to take your shoes off.
"And we're off to the races."
3:55 "Your toe is off to Liverpool."
I went to jennys house to ask what she thought of this but she was out
1:20 "the information is modemed through cyberspace to our laboratory"
It's just a gmail to the office.
That guy had all the jargon to be vague and confusing lol
They lost me at walk over “this computer chip” seemed more like a peripheral to me
"Taxing in the whole connecting chain" 🤣🤣🤣
@@ChaseEverything kinetic
Hear! Hear! Peter! Loved seeing the dragons throw down on those scamer jabronies.
basically every single person has a flaw on their foot and they will sell you an expensive "remedy" to fix it. the remedy for your specific fault seems to be the one-size-fits-all shoe insert!! what a scam.
Never seen only fools and horses in his life, there is no way Del would have used half of those long words, like a "laboratory" for one.
Working class show, of course he's never watched it.
I’m going to hate this show if they start showing teasers at the start of every episode….
Same. I instantly tapped the screen to skip until I saw them walking the stairs 😂
100% agree.
They really shouldn't continue to do this.
I hope they do this from now on
I know. Afterall, we're not Americans
Do like the older series. This lineup was one of the best.
Deborah's face when they confirm what the product does 🙂😩😂
So many red flags with these guys. Emotionless pitch, very high prices, medical examination in like 5 seconds......, 'buy this or some day you will have a problem'
This is very icky
Incredible amounts of buzzword BS, too.
The reason it worked in Ireland and not UK is because in Ireland we are used to paying for healthcare .
We pay for healthcare in the UK; it's called taxes, and it's great value for money.
@@oxymoron02 yes it's a great system. Unfortunately here we pay at point of use to see a doctor. €50 usually. So people are very accustomed to pay for l kinds of treatments, directly. Hence there are lots of private physios. Even public hospitals bill for the accommodation and food.
And you have weird feet
@@jamie2866 yes that is true most of us would fall over without the inserts.
The only direction I can give you is to the stairs. The best quote so far
That was actually a Low key savage line...
If he can make 170k profit in Ireland and he wants 70k to help the UK company (a market nearly 20 times the size of the Irish one) why doesn't he take 70k from the Irish profits to grow the UK company and keep the equity? Did I miss something?
he says cos he does not know how to do the appropriate "marketing"..
@@andipandi5641 Which is bullshit. The reason why international companies lump the UK and Ireland together is you can market to both as one entity with some price localisation and a local voiceover in adverts for Ireland. The British don't even mind if the voiceover has an Irish voice in the UK. For most successful Irish companies the obvious first place to expand has always been the UK. Paddy Power, when it decided to expand, didn't choose Greece as its first port of call. It chose the UK, used the same marketing strategy and the same tactics. Look at Flutter now.
@@peterd788 in the context of there is in this instance self-evidently something different about the UK market..
@@peterd788 i think his point was that he has been a doctor for 10 years in ireland. so he was well-connected there and could basically just sell these devices to his existing contacts. whereas in the UK he doesn't know enough orthopedic doctors to get everyone to buy it.
@@dertdood I was part of a startup in Dublin over 20 years ago and from day one we cultivated contacts in the UK because it's a market that offers no cultural, legal or procedural resistance to an Irish firm. If you were based in Ballsbridge you could get to London quicker than Cork and find common purpose with the footy in the pub. Maybe because he was Canadian he was a bit nervous but I suspect he was just a conman.
Takes me back to late 90s/ early 00’s when folk paid £300 for insoles. The dragons dodged a bullet here- it’s all about good trainers now. 👍 ps- watched this while having breakfast…… roll on another at lunch 😃
This is still going. I had a mild defect and my foot hurt. Was told I needed special shoes and insoles. Close to €700
Didn't solve anything. Switched to barefoot shoes and my problems were gone.
Orthopedics is a scam
Alan, what did you have for breakfast / lunch buddy? Excited to find out!
@@ADecadeDrifting 😂😂 can’t remember - probably some soup and crusty bread- ideal for a 12 mins DD 👍
@@justbuns6404 Are you referring to sandals?
@@warfoxrommel5172 No, there is a type of shoe called barefoot.
They have flexible soles and look mostly like regular shoes.
The barefaced bravado of these two individuals is astonishing. I'd love to hear about their 'doctors' degrees.
I get that custom sole inserts can help some people but basing the results on only one step per foot makes it seem unreliable
I remember seeing Dr.Scholls kiosks in stores and at least then if it need one I can get it right off the shelf on its side
Unit of investment- Theo per Phetus
Has no one else noticed this is the exact same thing as those Dr. Scholl's machines at Wal-Mart. You stand on it with your shoes off and it scans your foot and recommends which of their shoe inserts are the right fit for you.
I've actually had them before and they are pretty nice 👌
Iv never seen one of those. Are in the insoles expensive?
@@snooganslestat2030 nope. $9-$15 range
He said "cyberspace" lol
This was about 15 years ago.
@@DrB81 still said it
@@tommydenato8863 You’ve missed the point. It was perfectly acceptable to say that back then. You can’t judge someone’s language from the past Mr hindsight.
@@DrB81 I didn't miss the point. You just have the humor of styrofoam.
@@tommydenato8863 You’re questioning my humour when you think your comment was funny. Sad little amoeba.
Theopa FEET US🤣
The Canadian guy and his buzzwords are triggering my 4000 BS sensors.
He's not just using buzz words. He knows the science and knows if you break it down that if you use an insole, your walking posture and your whole upper leg and body will change for the better. I have mild cerebral palsy and struggle to walk flat feet all my life and its caused some problems. If they had these insoles when I was younger maybe they would have helped me instead of plaster casts and splints.
"greatest economic minds in the UK" - cringe
@@TheManInBlueFlames Yes it's quite standard technology but he's one of those typical salespeople that tries to dazzle with jargon. You can guarantee that he'd pitch it as "using AI" in 2021.
Edit: added quotations
Words like "cyberspace" and "synergistic". I think they want to sell me a time share.
I've talked to actual experts in the foot field and doctors and such. When I was younger, I was given a very similar explanation, without as much of the jargon. He is basically saying the same thing.
Dragons take turns to shoe them away. I can see the connection with Del Boy... He was another sole trader.
The dragons really tied them up in knots.
They where wrong I trailed a pair or work boots made by a company using a very similar machine to this one, making separate insoles to fit the shape of my feet now everyone that works for the firm and it's a world wide one has a pair, I'm out and I don't always get it right, springs to mind.
"They were wrong I"? They were wrong you? What?
Theo Defeatist & Duncan Ballantyne the best dragons by a longshot
Theo the Fetus you mean.
Two well dressed young men - bravo
Thanks for that Simp Dixon
They're pretty much all well dressed in this show
Username checks out.
Are you having a laugh? Bloke on the right has a knot in his tie about as wide as his entire neck. Looks like a little kid playing dress-ups in his dad's wardrobe.
🤣 Theo trying not to look impressed @1:50
medical expert peter jones shaking his head during the pitch, lol - basically heard 2 accents he hates and said f this!
0:29 Irish accent
0:46 American accent
Me: Impressive 🙀
0:46 Not American. Canadian.
@@kennyryan625 What continent is Canada on again...?
@@wintermute8315 A Canadian accent is not the same as an American accent. No need to be pedantic. Quite clear they’re talking about countries not continents.
@@numberonehater1239 They can sound quite similar though. Cultures, including accents, can and do spill over borders, so you can have someone who was born and raised in the US, and someone who was born and raised in Canada, sounding nearly identical to each other because they aren't actually that far removed from each other despite residing in different countries. For an example of this, look at the stereotypical Minnesota or Wisconsin accents, which can sound very similar to a Canadian from somewhere like Manitoba to an untrained ear.
@@DovahFett but stereotypical Wisconsin accent isn't how we actually speak
He said in Ireland there’s 3 million people, when there’s 7.2 million. Over two and a half time off. How can he be that off in his own original market!
“…the information is modemed through cyberspace…” 😂😂
Cyber Space? You mean the internet?
Remember when we used to "Surf The Web"? 😂
When Peter starts shaking his head you know it's doomed.
They were a right couple of plonkers!
Yes, but apart from that they were okay.
There should be a show where they say to the dragons, here’s a problem I’ve found, here’s my idea, how can I move forward with it and structure it in a way so that when I present to the panel, you will want to invest? Like a screening for business, that also filters the idea before they waste time, money and energy on it!
This pitch needed Tej on the receiving end, not guaranteed an investment, but he's got the contacts that would've given this product a chance.
I don't think they mentioned any issues with how podiatrists have been prescribing insoles for the last (I dont even know how many years).
This time next year Rodney!
The blue shirt doctor is super passionate about this. Love it 😀
They're not medical doctors, just chiropractors.
They are now based in Ontario, Canada.
Duncan the savage again “the only direction I can show you is to the stairs”
He never fails to make me laugh at clowns who think they can bamboozle him LOL.
Peter would approve of their dress sense 👏
Sadly these entrepreneurs believed their pitch was a shoe in until the dragons gave them the boot. Accepting defeet and turning on their heels to flee was the only thing left for them to do. No doubt one of them has a rich ankle that invested.
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How has the comment not gotten a million likes?
@@MilhouseDaunt😂👍
I feel daft here. But what is the actual issue that upset the dragons?
The entrepreneurs had a successful business selling orthopedics in Northern Ireland which was trying without success to expand to rest of Britain. They wanted to split the business in two and have the dragons invest in the unsuccessful part whilst keeping the successful part entirely for themselves.
Anyone know how they ended up turning out? It was a pretty good idea. And it seemed to work in Ireland.
do not know what they turned out, but the same tech is available all over now. went to a clinic in sweden that did a similar scan of my feet to make inserts.
U can probably Google it.
@@kerberos623 my chiropractor sold me those several years ago. He said they were a Candian company . had exactly the same setup and sent data to Canada .Insoles would be delivered 4 or 5 weeks later. If he could get that .Cant see why any other qualified practitioner wouldnt be ableto
The company was liquidated when the 2 guys became arch enemies
The Canadian got itchy feet and left the company
"With the help of Theo Paphitis' nascent bunion" is gold dust.
That cracked me up lol
I feel like this system would find a problem with every foot
To be fair, foot problems are common, and the shoes we wear don't help.
My man's shirt and tie colour combo is absolutely tragic. Looks like he's on his way to a sixth form prom
I agree!! Eye sore!! It's to distract people.. a sales strategy 🤣🤣🤣
The proportions are truly awful.
This only makes sense to people who have serious foot problems, like I do. Orthotics are not cheap.
Oh cyberspace, that means it's like the future or something. One day I hope to drive on the information superhighway
These dragons think that they know everything..
It's so annoying when they look down on people
It was pretty much snake oil though, the technology shown here never took off and for a good reason, because it’s an over glorified foot scanning device. I agree, sometimes the dragons can be pretentious arseholes, but not this time, these two were essentially selling a scam.
@@maxpayneful4328 The panel that measures foot pressure and extrapolates information in order to determine MSK discrepancies and dysfunction in gait, is a piece of equipment that has long been used in podiatry. That doesn't mean to say that their pitch was deserved of investment, however, to say that the "technology shown here never took off", is simply untrue. I don't wish to start a debate, but as a podiatrist who uses such technology (albeit an updated version of), I feel as though I have to defend it somewhat.
they don't look down on people but if someones going to come in asking for your investment you are going to quiz them on every nook and cranny. One loose screw and the whole thing comes down
@@jamesf449 Fair enough, but I’m sure what they were selling wasn’t unique to them and it wasn’t their invention.
Obviously I can see why you would like to keep your already successful business off the table when looking for an investment into a much less successful company but I also see how it’s a bit insulting and not at all reassuring to be the investor finding out that you want to use their money to grow your failing business while keeping your profitable business completely separate.
Duncan is ruthless...
They didn't understand the profit question. He said the profit went back into the company so profit was zero.
Sometimes I like to use long words to make me look more photosynthesis
How about pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (the longest word according to google)
The episode where Theo is diagnosed with bunions
I think I'll have some sole in the oven tonight for dinner
The American guy is just thinking "who's Delboy?!"
Yeah, I only know Hellboy 😂😂😂
@@beckyweisfeld6977 shush
He was Canadian, don't lump them in with us
@@beckyweisfeld6977 🇺🇸 what’s a Haratio Alger Character?
@@aggrogator4045 i know right... canadians are way nicer ppl than yanks lol
Its a red flag if people pitching for investment have to confer with the head office.
What does that mean?
@@Abi-ec8xm usually mean they dont have control of the company.
Most people out pitching opportunities aren’t the owners.
Not so on this show, but just in general
@@lifotheparty6195 For investment?
tbf i do wear orthotic insoles in my shoes and they alleviated my back and hip pain really well - i think they may actually have something useful if they could sell it
It too expensive to sell.
The NHS prescribed my custom orthotics. I got them for the price of sny other NHS prescription. Before that, I spent £20 on aamazon orthotics insoles. This is a rip-off
Two clowns... had they pulled the wool over the eyes of the dragons the deal wouldn't have gone through when their teams looked over the accounts and the fine details of the deal. They may have even pulled the clip before it made it on TV or reduced the time taken.
Pitching UK & Ireland, and trying to do the deal with just Great Britain... an area they are failing to get into... made lemons out of themselves.
I think the gent on the left would be more suited in a Krays film going round duffing people up, certainly looks like a Kray, that part would suit him
Like the crustaceans? Or do you mean the krays?
@@No-mn3bw The Krays. Didn't realise i spelt it with a "C". I've corrected it now
1:25 "to our lavatory" WHAT? XD
I find myself wondering if they are " Doctors"
I had the same suspicion. Real doctors wouldn't be trying to flog this system. They are just chiropractors. The Dr is just a courtesy title, which makes them sound legitimate.
Duncan: Dyoo think we're dumb?
Also Duncan: Does every electric toothbrush have a battery in them?
Theoretically, it can have a cable