The HORRIFYING REALITY of DREADNOUGHTS
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- Standing three times the height of a man, these towering war machines bear powerful weapons and are as lethal at range as in close assault. A Space Marine chapter's Dreadnoughts are treasured relics in the Warhammer 40k setting, only awoken in great need. Encased inside every Dreadnought lies a mighty Space Marine hero, who has suffered grievous wounds in battle, saved only by his internment. Venerable Dreadnoughts bring their wisdom to the Chapter in times of peace, and immense battlefield experience in times of war.
Traitor: "Being put in a Dreadnought is a curse"
Loyalist: "FCK YEAH! SERVE THE EMPEROR! AGAIN!"
"Its a curse" "no shit but like serving in death and whatnot"
Hellbrutes are basically what happens when you intentionally drive the dreadnought mad.
lmao, I read the comment with the voice of Dorklys Shackle
Makes sense. Getting put in a Hellbrute is a FAR worse deal than a Dreadnaught
@@joeldykman7591what zero time off does to a mf
And Rylanor spent over 10 millenia
And bjorn
@@Dir_Grobbman Bjorn is doing fine, they hooked a pump to his chassis so he can down a keg of Mjød with the wolf boys
@@orbitalbutt6757lol
@@orbitalbutt6757oh yeah there is also a blood angel dreads that succumb to red thirst
He LITERALLY need to have a pipe through his chassis so he could drink blood
Several millennia, but not ten
The dreadnought is the embodiement of the "I'm tired, boss" meme
I have no mouth and I must scream...
I do have a multi-melta though 😊
*multi-melta noises*
Then you have no mouth, therefore the enemy must do the screaming.
Who needs to scream when you can let your arm mounded chain cannon do the screaming.
Hey, wat's this button do-
No mouth?
One of a Dreadnaughts weapons is a cannon... That fires sound. Powerful enough to eviscerate everything it directly hits and rupture the ears of everyone within a few hundred miles.
I'd say that's a decent mouth and a very good scream.
Dreadnoughts: Curse to serve beyond death. And slowly succumb to dementia and death.
Named Dreadnoughts: Let GO!!!! Aint got time to die.
dementia is caused by emotional stuff like not having a body and not getting hugs so i think theyre okay
@@Steve-gz3sy I wish dementia actually worked like this :(
@@brycemedvin8765
I'd bet there are some kinds that do.
Dimentia is a symptom, remember, and not a disease.
Lol, so true, best of the best! Can't wait for the series especially since H.Cavill is essentially at the helm!
@@Steve-gz3sywrong
And then theres Bjorn whos still chugging Mjod after 10,000 years.
He has the power of family. Gets to be among new recruits and events. Makes a difference it seems
Vin Diesel shall be the voice of Bjorn if we ever get him in a show @@JPooger
The primaris last even shorter periods I am told. Bjorn just likes telling stories to what amounts to his ‘grandkids’ which keeps him sane.
@@Ragnarra it's not just that primaris last shorter. Whatever reason is it's stated that the primaris version of dreadnaught actually drains the user. It burns up their life force or whatever. Personally it just sounds like the writers tried to make it more "from dark" but it just comes across as silly and bad writing XD
@@JPooger well your not wrong it is an example of bad writing. If they explained the mechanics and the fact the primaris have more implants which make the whole old design of a dreadnaught no longer viable for extended periods. It would be like shoving someone into a chaos dreadnaught without the same chaos bits that make that worse. I’m beginning to think that you probably need a mechanical engineering crash course to write these kinds of things good. Or at least make it believable.
Meanwhile, somewhere in the fortress monastery of the space wolves: *TWINS THEY WERE!!!*
Nah that guy only complained about how much of a dick Leman Russ was.
He endures
That was tankred of the black templars
@@cephalonbob15 I did not expect a cephalon of all things to respond to my comment.
@@Fairwhite195 Many are indeed, for I have heard that my kin sometimes displays an ... eccentric personality, tarnishing our professional reputation.
I think the coolest aspect of a dreadnaught is the fact that each one is a living library of their chapters history and have vast amounts of knowledge on warfare and tactics.
"Brother dreadnaught do you know how our chapter won this battle 3000 years ago?"
"Why yes brother.. I was there. We won by luring the enemy in close and ambushing with flamers" etc so cool
if they still have the memory and are sane enough to recall it...
Damn what a rush their life to be. Imagine sleeping all day long and being woken up only to battle killing enemies while chanting death metal verses for every bullets spent. If I were them I would imagine myself doing naps then playing fps shooter or doom eternal everyday😂
Dreadnoughts: (alive for millennia, asleep for most of it) I'm going insane!
Dante: (2000+ yrs old, likely never slept at all) I want to die but Sanguinius won't let me.
Dante is only 1600 years old give or take
Imagine how mad he's gonna be when he wakes up in a Dreadnought
@@EpicDude86 at that rate he’ll see the 51st millennium
Rylanor: (alive for 10,000 years, awake for all of it) hey Fulgrim, eat a virus bomb.
And then you have redemptors, which just chew through hosts like batteries
maybe that is the point, they are dreadnoughts with a expiration date, making them ironically more humane and merciful
Not for much longer, that will be retconned when they squat the firstborn venerable dreadnought. Can’t have venerable redemptors with pilots that die quicker than a vibrator battery at an orgy
@@colonelturmeric558😅😂
@@samuelfelixdasilva1791It's stupid and short-sighted is what it is. The whole point of Dreadnoughts is so that their pilots can continue to serve for as long as they can, serving as reliquaries of knowledge and experience alongside allowing the fallen brothers within to still serve rather than be executed or languish in some retirement home. They're meant, in a way, to save the brothers from being lost through death by preserving them for as long as possible while remaining capable combatants.
Making a Pattern that _burns_ through users like las munitions in a fight against the Tyranids is the complete opposite of the point. Even the Leviathans probably didn't burn through pilots as quickly, and even then they can be somewhat justified thanks to the sheer amount of firepower the Pattern provides.
@@mortarion9813it’s horrible and a waste of good warriors every single time they trade out the host that’s a lot of knowledge lost a massive amount of battle experience gone and all for what more boom?
I’m surprised a game where you play as a dreadnought hasn’t been made, like it would be a big hit I would think especially given how customizable the dreadnoughts could be and how deep and rich the story can be of a veteran Astartes gravely wounded and put into one of these machines so that he could continue serving the emperor and as you progress through the game it kinda like goes through the ages playing that same dreadnought fighting in different theaters of war facing many horrors as the player watches this space marine he has spent so much time with begins to slowly lose his sanity.
I'll buy it!
Oh my god that would be so cool.
And if you die, you respawn in a different chassis (of the same pattern you picked) so like if you die in a contemptor dread you respawn in a different contemptor chassis
The first Space Marine has a multiplayer mode where one player from each side can play as a dreadnought. They might do it again in the sequel.
Maybe start the game in a mission where you ARE the veteran space Marine, leading younger inexperienced Marines through a mission. The mission would be scripted for you to be defeated and you get one glorious last stand (Halo Reach style?) And succumb to the hordes before reinforcements arrive. Then they could do a badass first person cinematic of being Entombed in the Dreadnought. That'd be badass as hell... could be decent post-story DLC for a Space Marine game too?
@@SIRUNOWN Sounds good to me!
While it’s not really expanded upon in lore, I wonder if with some chapters after a Dreadnaught has shown that it’s beyond use (serious dementia) if they just give it one last glorious mission and basically throw it into a suicide mission in order to give them a glorious death?
That might actually be a blessing for the marine entombed. The chaos marines have dreadnaughts but they rarely are used for obvious reasons many would rather die than put into a dreadnaught designed by the chaos marines.
@@superspies32Yes, they absolutely will not allow a deliberate suicide mission for a dreadnought. I'd guess if they are too far gone they have to be disconnected and removed, not something I suspect writers would want to cover as it is basically like turning off life support.
And there are many chapters that will flat refuse to be entombed in a Dreadnought Sarcophagus, because they view too much in the way of tech implants to be bad.
@@armi999gotta uphold the grim dark name!
As a Tech-Priest, I'd rather suggest we convert them using similar procedures as when we make the servitors. Painlessly this time, of course. We do not care much about the complaints of the flesh, but punishment is not warranted upon a hero of the Imperium.
The true horror of being put in a dreadnought:
*SLEEPING FOR CENTURIES JUST TO BE WOKEN UP BY YOUNGER SPACE MARINES ASKING FOR THE CHAPTER’S WIFI PASSCODE.*
This comment is pure gold
I can only imagine the second it wakes up the PTSD attacks just instantly hit.
Chapter Techmarine: venerable ancient, bestow upon us your wisdom, such that we may access the wide information network again!
Dreadnought: WHO POURED "SACRED" OIL ON THE ROUTER AGAIN!?
I can imagine a drednaught trying his damndest best to not slap a bitch for waking him.
"Beep Boop, time to Terminate."@@JimothyPickens
One of my favorite moments was when the World Eaters had to wake up their Dreadnoughts mid-Heresy, and the Dreads had *no clue* anything had happened.
So they just flash-exposed everything to them with thumbdrives, and the Dreadies just, sigh, and get to work.
The Imperium has long forgotten the HUMAN part of the human-weapon
If you ever thought Darth Vader had it bad, at least he could still use the Force.
*One by Metallica begins playing*
Bjorn the Fell-handed would like a word. He even acknowledged the beauty of a fenrisian female inquisitor.
Even after thousands years my boy is still horny
Didn't that old wolf tell her that if he still had his body he would "interogate" her all night long?
Which is part of what made Rylanor such a chad.
Rylanor the gigachad sitting and waiting for Fulgrim
Thousand sons:
*Ima let this slide*
@@synergy8879as you do when talking about fucking up Fulgrims day.
Scout: “Did we just permanently gundum grandpa?”
Brother: “First: never use gundum as a verb again and second: yes”
Brother 2: “and he is certainly not our grandpa”
Dred: “GTFO ME DOCKING BAY YE KARKIN KIDS”
Brother 1: “although he certainly acts like one”
Brother 2: “he even has the gun”
Sorry but ANY NOUN CAN BE A VERB IF YOU ENGLISH HARD ENOUGH
Tbh were the Contemptor patterns good for being against these sorta things, considering those seem to be the most human-esque of the dreads?
Iirc, Contemptors actually went insane more often for whatever reason.
@@xeonespydonum4995you mean Leviathans? Contemptors were the best Astartes dread, as the occupants were kept sane for MUCH longer
Iron Hands Space Marines; "Where do I sign up?"
Chad iron warriors and iron hands: there is no downside only upside for pain breads strength and flesh breeds weakness for that iron is superior 😎
They can't go crazy if they already are.
that's a half-baked theory
Iron hands, sure.
But you don't wanna go into an Iron Warriors dreadnought. You just don't...
@@raznaaklmao dreadnaught made with a spot for the marines butchers nails implants.. oof. Yeah I’ll pass.
I had a slight anxiety attack when "life" inside a dreadnought was described in the book "feel no fear" lol
Just imagine you're floating in the sarcophagus, all alone, forever, and suddenly you have a feeling there's something in there with you.
*shudders*
Of course, it's the Emperor's Light, telling me to continue to fight against His enemies.
@@TornaitSuperBirdor a cockroach spray painted gold by a guardsman
@@crowgrabber_former_er5bb8yb2t just use a goldfish genetically modified so it can survive in the life support soup
"I have no mouth and I must scream."
I have no mouth and I must meme
Then hats off to Rylanor, Bjorn and The Anchorite. One stayed awake broken but revengeful, one was woken for duty, and one by the faith.
It can be quite difficult to work with eldery people having dementia. They display anxiety, can get depressed even agressive.
Now imagine that person with bolter guns, laser weapons and all sorts of rocket and grenade lunchers and several tons of moving armor.
And that's just the regular ones and not the Chaos marine models
Chaos dreads put the 'dread' in dreadnought
Bjorn is almost as old as Rylanor and he is doing fine.
Just imagine how much of a beast would be if Sigismund, the Absolute Unit, survived and was entombed within a Dreadnought
Captain Magneric was a dreadnought and pretty fucking badass
“And they shall know no fear. But loneliness and despair? Yeah, we’ll leave ‘em with that.”
Jeez...how about a therapist?
Bjorn does love a good nap these days while he waits for Leman Russ to finally come home
Any day now, Leman Russ will be back from the store with cigarettes and milk.
@@EvilPaladin11 At least he will come back and not have another family somewhere else he loves more
If we overanalyze this:
There is body horror here and that would be psychologically difficult for the pilot to process. But perhaps they get used to it over time and realize they are the equivalent of a walking war-machine god, able to shape the outcome of battles.
The worst part of being in a DN is probably the down-time between battles. Nothing to do except wait for the next battle and contemplate existence. Terrible.
So attaching some Netflix module inside the DN would be very beneficial.
Brother, I'm lonely hug me and tuck in me, brother
Still better than a helbrute..
I imagine them singing, humming, and whistling as they stomp into battle, throwing in the occasional, "Pew, pew!" as they blast shit they loathe. I mean, why wouldn't they? Their voices must sound superb inside those things--the eternal shower singing experience. Other space marines sometimes hearing, "Singing in the Rain," thinking, Oh, that's just Brother Bronchitis.
@@johnnyrocket1685 Yes, they most certainly can. They are mortally wounded space marines interred in sarcophagi mounted inside a robotic exoskeleton equipped with crushing fists, stompy feet, and shooty guns. The marine inside can most certainly speak as they are often consulted as advisors to Captains and chapter masters as ancient wiseman due to their massive amounts of combat experience. They do indeed speak, and they most likely sing songs like, "Singing in the Rain," and battle hymns in honor of the holy Emperor himself.
@johnnyrocket1685 owned with facts and logic you just got omni-pilled
With exceptions. Bjorn the Fellhanded.
Takes the Literal Term "no rest for the dead" very well
By the Emperor, Dreadnoughts are metal af
nah HMS Dreadnought, a ship so influential that ships before her were called pre-dreadnoughts could blast these dumb looking robots to the pain train station in train town
@@antlionworkerfan2007 Brother, this is Heresy. 😧
@@fashionsbyohrbachs nah her 5 twin 305 mm cannons, 27 76 mm cannons, and torpedoes but, well, torpedoes wouldn’t be very effective against your silly little robots could EASILY pass through that silly 1 nm thin dumb blue armor with like, a guy versus HMS Dreadnoughts 800+ crew your silly -37,977 year old dinosaur versus the mighty 117 year young strapping fine lady, oh yeah and drab gray is SO much better than your yellow or blue or whatever stupid color your dumb ship wants to be (LOL) 🤡🤡🤡 (on a more serious matter I took about 10 minutes to write this💀)🅱️🅾️🅰️✝️🆚🤖🟰🛥️🚣♂️🚣🚣♀️🛶🚢⚓️
Also to note I wrote that thing to sound like one of the old homephobic climate change denying boomers of Microsoft News Network
Fun fact: famous British death metal band Bolt Thrower's second album, Realms of Chaos, was released in 1989 with heavy ties to Warhammer 40K. It's also a great album.
One nice thing about Iron Hands is many of the down sides to being in a Dreadnoughts gets their gears hard.
Yes, please turn me into an angry fridge with guns when I get bodied. That’s all I want.
Fridge? How about the entire damn kitchen??
@@thedyingmeme6everything but the kitchen sink XD
"I know a guy,who knows a guy..."
Same. Put me in there. Don't know how long I'll last but I'll be able to bring down hell while I do.
I saw this video months ago and the phrase and whole conception of " shock absorbing nutrient paste" burn itself into my brain and will never leave it until the day I die
Imagine being woken after centuries of slumber and the first thing you hear is “we’re here to contact you about your Dreadnought’s extended warranty”
Tell that to Bjorn The Fell Handed, after 10,000 years that guys still chilling and cracking jokes. Must not apply to space wolfs, how can the crazy go insane?
all they need is to give the entombed warrior inside the dreadnaught the occasional hug
Rylanor: funny, i don’t have that problem.
We need a Dreadnaught Retirement home
Dreadnaught Retirement home, where Its just a badass place filled with robot mechanic girls.
Raylenor 10k years stuck in dreadnaught, awake, plotting to revenge on Fulgrim 😢
Rylanor the gigachad
Bjorn just build different
Even as a kid seeing classic art work of a dreadnought every picture felt like a Silent Scream of Rage
Bjorns been around since the heresy he seems okay!
Also even he Inquisition learned to not fuck with this angry fridge
He isn't asleep like other dreads for vast amounts of time, which going off of how other dreads don't go into stasis for thousands of years either are still mostly same (or were seeing as the have a habit of dying more often than everyone else because they're exceptions to the rule of insanity) it's going to sleep one day only to wake up 3,000 years later to find everyone you knew is dead.
Not to mention that fluid they sit in is incredibly COLD.
Dawg died and had to come back to work
I feel like the fact they ONLY get woken up right around fights is the reason its so hard. Because Stasis is NOT sleep, its like a pause button on their brains. So its just NONSTOP fights with VERY little time to relax and "come down" from Battle Adrenaline.
There was a dreadnought during the war of the beast that preserved his personality and range in the chapter, he was in command of his own fleet, his name was Magneric of the black templars, I don't remember. Oh, and he is a vereran from the heresy, but he doesn't like to sleep, he lives (lived :(... ) to hunt Kalkator, an Iron Warrior that was his friend in the heresy, but he has to do an aliance with him to fight a WAAHGH.
Bjorn the fell handed is the oldest living loyalist dreadnought. For a guy who is a millennial in the most literal sense of the word, he’s fairly well put together. Being asleep for most of that time helps.
*"I would have liked....to see the skies of Baal.....one...last time."*
To put this into StarCraft speak: this is basically if Terrans had immortals.
If they are still serving the emperor, there is no problem at all, THE EMPEROR NEED EVERY SOLDIER TO FIGHT AGAINST THE HORRORS OF THE GALAXY, BECAUSE OF THAT, NO SACRIFICE IS TOO MUCH IF IT IS FOR THE EMPEROR
*FOOOR THE EMPEROOOOOR*
I think there was a Night Lord dreadnaught who talks about the moments outside of battle. Even though he is hooked up to the machine, sometimes he can feel the cold fluid he floats in. the tubes in his body. His vestigial arms bumping into the walls of his coffin.
loyalist cope is truly infinite
I search for the naval vessel HMS Dreadnought an hour or 2 ago, I have never liked or cared about warhammer 40k, neither have I search for it, coincidence? I think not
As someone that has never played Warhammer.....are there any "good guys" in this franchise??? Or just good by comparison to everything else???
This has interesting and awkward implications for the emperor, if you think about it. He was mortally wounded and entombed on earth a long time ago.
"this is horrifying"
warhammer fans: "you JUST found out? And yeah, 99% of this franchie is" lol
"Gradually their memories deteriorate."
Meanwhile: I am he who remembers, the Ancient of Rites!
I mean couldn't we realistically just give them a friend just like when they're not sleeping give them someone that they really like like when they were a normal space marine if they had like a best bud have him go into battle with them all the time
Imagine a guy, sitting in his comfy armchair sipping some tea or whatever- coming with all of this stuff.. 😀
Wait, they're cyborgs?
I thought they were just mechs
Like a tank with legs and a pilot seat
Counterpoint: Rylanor
🎶 YOU CAN NEVER BE FORGIVEN FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE, AND SO IT FALLS UPON ME TO END THE PRODIGAL SON!! 🎶
maybe if they transferred to the guy in the dreadnought to a mechanical body that was able to function in society when he wasnt fighting
Meanwhile, Rylanor
If you think this is bad, you should see what happens to Traitor Marines who are put in dreadnoughts.
Somewhere in there there is still a fragment of humanity
Not really but lets just think that way
Never knew they have Angry Dreadnoughts - nice addition 0:33
Then again if you ask the right space Marine... depending on the damage it might feel better to be in a dreadnaught then in a suit of armor... even though the dreadnaught is a suit of armor in its own right...
What am I getting at... a space Marine gets put into after experiencing near death or literally death.... there is a chance that the new body feels better than having a suit of armor half integrated into your body...
For instance ol red... he may be in solitude still but his solitude is basically the equivalency of "just send him on a solo mission he'll be back with us when he's ready to share his adventures with his brothers"
This creating a second category of isolation of ones self for a moment...
Sleeping or just needs to move... but it's how their doing it... for example prolonged periods of nothing to do leads to a harder strain on their psyche. But giving them something like being a part of the supply chain of getting things from one place that their stored to another place they are needed...
While yes automation is possible but what about directly after a battle or just before with a little added muscle for moving the munitions around we could theoretically shorten supply times.... that's just if they "decide" to start helping their automation. And systematic way of doing things.
"Even in death i still serve" - The most WH40k Quote ever :D
If i was in 40k i would give them a hug ,that would pron delay their crazyness by a 100years
So this is where Dragoons and Immortals come from
I... Don't understand warhammer at all
Aside from the iron hands they love it.
So, basically... Robocop.
Breadnought.
Eventually Berossus met Honsou in battle during the latter stages of the war, where he almost killed Honsou with a siege drill. However, Honsou's Daemonhost bodyguard Onyx managed to inflict enough damage to Berossus's dreadnought form. His sarcophagus was opened by Housou, who proceeded to rip Berossus's head from the Mind Impulse Unit of the dreadnought and crush it for all to see.
CYBERPSYCHOSIS
Malcharion of the Night Lords deserves a special mention.
His sarcophagus is modeled with a stylized mural statue of him in life, holding the helm of a loyalist captain in each hand, with the third under his boot, signifying his greatest triumph in slaying 3 company captains single handedly during the Siege of Terra.
Yet despite being highly venerated by his Night Lord bretheren as The War Sage, it's met with a "Grandpa's getting too old for this shit, but I wont pass up an opportunity to kick ass in midnight clad at least" attitude.
After reading the Ravenr codex I was kind of getting into the man stuck in the machine then I read the space Wolf's..and they woke up a dreadnought...fux yes... then it was over...so I read it again....WERE IS ARE MOVIE.........
I wish they would do this to grimaldus. His internment would make such good story. He would look sick inside a dreadnought with no sarcophagus, just a man hanging raw out of a hulking machine. Screaming to his brothers BLOOD AND FIRE......FOR HELSREACH!!!!!
'I am Rylanor of the Emperor's Children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palatine Host, and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, Beloved by all! I reject you now and always!'
Rylanor: I WILL END FULGRIM.
dies heroically wounding fulgrims pride, something he can't get back.
(Based on what I've read/headcannon as I'm not a massive warhammer fan)
The emperor: Rylanor... loyal dreadnought and wounder of fulgrims pride, i give you a choice to serve even in death as a legion of the dammed!
Rylanor: *I'LL FUCKING DO IT AGAIN*
All will succumb, all except BJORN THE FELL HANDED!
For the Wolfking and the Allfather!
Maybe if they were to look at it from the perspective of any other life saving medical procedure🤷♂️ I mean hell, space marines don't even enjoy normal human stuff anyway right?? Perhaps if they were just allowed to chill, train newcomers and discuss badassery with the crew in between battles they'd be just fine. Shiiiiiiiit, that would work I think.
Dreadnought me: "You need to install some goddamn video games in my interface, I'M BORED OUT OF MY MIND!"
Well Bjorn the Fell-Handed seems to be coping alright, even if he is getting a bit grumpy as he gets older.
I would like to actually imagine that a game where it's a Dreadnought that basically just rebelled from the Imperium or something happened with the Imperium and it's just I'm not well doing anything anymore and it's trying to help communities repair from the Troubles of War
Autolochus of the Iron Snakes:
"It's hard to sleep with the noise you kids make."
"I was so badass as a marine, have I ever mentioned that?"
*Leans over a Drukarri bearly alive from an autocannon*
"Excuse me, I'm looking for directions."
(Not joking. Autolochus might be the most jovial Dreadnaught in all the setting. He just does not give a single shit and likes to reminisce with the newer marines.)
meanwhile that one grot you shoved into a tin can :
GORK YEAH OI KAN EAT OI KAN FEEL TANKS MEK BOY! YA DA BESTIESTEST!
Insanity always stalks the long lived. You think regular Astartes are immune ?
Centuries ,Millennia, of battle, after battle after battle, with nothing to look forward to, nothing but more of the same.
The Salamanders are wise to have mortal families. It helps remind them why they fight. Though i disagree with their battle doctrine,i admire Vulkan's Sagacity!
People forget that great crafters, are often sages in their own right; intellects to equal any down the ages.
Did not the Emperor call Vulkan, his perfect son?
Ferocity, intellect, and a heart bigger than the galaxy!
People speak of Sanguinious, but he had his dark side. Ask Curze sometime. of course he's still around! You think a little thing like a bullet i the brain, can permanently end a Primarch? HA!
He's still around , though under what name, doing what ..not even the God Emperor knows.
Curze was sneakier that Alpharious when he wanted to be. Assuming you can locate Alpharious, to compare them, or trust what he tells you.
Not his fault, Malcador had his rearing, its only natural to have a ..malleable sense of what is true.