I find it so ironic that Nicole, who's a total troublemaker and part of an odd-job agency, has particularly good synergy with an upstanding, reliable, by-the-books cop lady
thank you i wanted ellen and soldier 11 i lost the 50/50 and got soldier and now due to your blessing i got ellen early on about 30-40 pity and i got lycaon from standard banner
Can I just say how much I appreciate you making actual informative content on the game instead of just shitting on it? Most of my usual go-to channels have put out nothing but hate toward the game, and it's getting more than a little grating. Like damn, man, if you don't like it, don't play it. Ain't no reason you gotta post eleven videos about how much you hate it when the people who are actually searching for ZZZ content are just looking for goddamn gameplay guides. I digress, keep up the good work, man.
Ikr. I try to search for ZZZ content on YT and most of what pops up are just hate videos or toxic drama. It's nice to have a go-to cc that actually has a productive video and not just whine for 10+ minutes. I'm not saying they have to dck ride Hoyo everytime but damn, we get it... they hate the game so they should just move on.
Wait I have Lycaon available for me so is Ellen good or should I save for miyabi? I can make these teams with either Lycaon,soukaku,Ellen/miyabi If I go for Ellen I can get the Victoria faction buff If I go for miyabi I can get the shiyu defense force buff
@@Försvar_OpsEllen/Lycaon/Sokaku are the current best team in the game. Lycaon will also work really well with Miyabi. Either one would work due to ice/faction bonus for the main DPS. So pick a fav I guess. Don’t know when Miyabi is coming, and I’d rather get Ellen.
I prefer longer videos because your knowledge of games with elements reminiscent of fighting games, and having these ways to change the gameplay that's just shown to you is something I like. Can't wait to hop on and learn these characters gameplay potential. Unfortunately, others aren't providing this depth of insight, but I'm glad to have someone to watch for detailed gameplay info.
Yo can you PLEASE make a Combo guide video for every character? You're the most knowledgeable CC on this, and it's a kind of content only YOU can do. Thanks in advance for the awesome videos
As a long time Souls player I really appreciate your take on things and how in depth you go with how you can play around with the mechanics in this game. While the game itself isn't a challenge necessarily, it's the fact that I can no challenge myself to learn these mechanics or little tricks that will make playing characters more fun/engaging. I really look forward to the future of this game and how I can mess around with different playstyles and gimmicks. Really appreciate your content man, only stumbled across you a week before ZZZ launch and you're who I been solely watching outside of build guides and what have you. Keep it up!:
Genuinely don't think you can go wrong with either character, but I'm going for Zhu Yuan because she just looks so fluid to play. I think fast paced characters are a lot more valuable in this game than the slower ones so she seems like she'll probably stay meta for a while just for that reason. Also great video, nice to see someone cover the game with FGC experience because that brings a welcome perspective to analysis for the game that most other YTers covering ZZZ won't have.
Absolutely excited for this as I LIKE how hard HSR is. Genshin has a super low skill floor and WuWa has a super high skill ceiling, but this seems to be a combination of the two and if we have the difficulty of HSR with DEEP character investment, and managing patch buffs, I'm going to have a blast
I gonna need that video on W-engines I hope people dont sleep on them. HSR and Genshin you can get away with not having sig weapons as for HI3rd you can always craft and use alts options.
Ellen is the whole reason I'm excited for this game. I'm getting her. Zhu Yuan would be a nice pickup. I like characters with a kit that requires engagement.
It keeps throwing me off that Electro elemental damage is bright blue colored in this game. Cuz then Ice is a more pale blue. You’d think they would’ve made Electro a yellow color or something.
Oh so that is right about the materials need to upgrade the agents. I always felt like my resources are easily depleted so it is indeed expensive spending resources. I literally building all my agents lols..
I'm honestly more interested in some of the main roster units more than the limited ones so far, BUT...gotta give the algorithm a nudge. Good stuff man and keep it up. Also, just an idea, but I think a podcast between u and smack would be a great idea. You both have an extensive FG background and relish in competitive and complex gameplay so I feel like a conversion between yall would be interesting for a lot of people outside of that space that are from the gacha space especially since ur familiar with most combat focused gachas outhere.
This was actually super informative!! I found it super helpful to hear an in-depth explanation between both characters’ kits. I pulled for Ellen already bc I really like her and I also just love Von Lycaon, and got SUPER lucky by pulling him off of standard! No rerolls needed 🎉 I’m going to wait to see on who the next 5* may be for 1.1 BUT I honestly really dig Zhu Yuan’s design and kit. I might pull for her if there isn’t anyone who interests me coming up next!
For anyone that says combat looks mid or whatnot Trust me The visuals is very deceiving I was also skeptical about the combat But when i got to actually do it im cbt3 You can REALLY feel the movement of the characters Zhu yuan for example is very "jumpy" i would say idk how to describe it cuz she feels very tactile in terms of controls And her pace is at the VERY fast spd Ellen while looks flashy feels a bit like a great sword user but 50% faster cuz her animation has a lot of charge stages And tbh my favorite is ben Why ben? He is for me at least the most technically interesting and unique out of all the others i've tried Ben has a LOT of kinda secret moves which you unlcok after doing the active skill for the first time Some of them are rocket jet pillar punch My favorite that you can do after doing his active skill once and using half the energy bar Cool af Also yes he moves VERY slow But his attacks is not You can further enhance this game combat speed by constantly swapping characters and basically idk... How to call it but " animation buffer"? A bit different from canceling animation since some characters has attacks that carries over even after you switch and ben's dodge attack can help mitigate some enemy action by ramming himself to the enemy after you switch out at his 4-5 combo string And other cool hidden combo stuff that you'd find in fighting games
The term you're thinking of is switch tech, where a character's longer attack animation can continue after you switch to a different character and still be on screen at the same time as you are controlling the new character until the attack finishes. There are some characters in Wuthering Waves that have moves built around switch tech (looking at you, Encore)
You can literally clear the ‘abyss’ of this game with your eyes closed only listening to sound indicator up til 7th floor I’m 31 and I attempted it with Ellen + Amby + Soukaku, finished in before the 6min S rank benchmark, with my eyes closed only spamming left click and space bar This game is extremely casual and ceiling is not high either
I love Ellen gameplay but Zhu Yuan mechanics gives me Hyperreal (PGR) vibes: ordinary bullet, strong bullet stack, some AoE damage, auto dodge, hopping all around the field, and nuke. Hyperreal is my favourite man I can't decide yet
New viewer, been using Billy, very good, failed on Ellen 50/50 and got Neko when reached level 30, sad. Started an 2nd account to try my luck again for Ellen, if 2nd account fails again. Then i will main my first account and save pulls for Zhu Yuan, she looks an upgraded version of Grace and Billy, looking quite fun and looking forward the game could bring more content and story to it.
To activate her core passive it's not like the rest of the agents where it's the same attribute or faction. With Zhu Yuan it's either a support character ir the same faction so you can tune her with other supports too
So true on the economy for gear being incredibly stingy. Currently i was analyzing what would be the best course of action for my account and all in all considering i have nearly C4 soukaku and also having lycaon pulling for ellen would be the most optimal play for me. Since that enables me to use my current nekomata that i also got early on in my pulls to have her be in a team with anby & piper/nicole. Ofc everyone should focus on pulling for what they want first. Be it waifu meta or just cause you wanna try a kit, but if you're looking to get into the endgame you gotta recognize that this game is going to be an arm's race for damage output similar to pgr from what i can tell. So if you care about your performance then it's time to GENUINELY start planning your pulls ahead of time. Don't be like me with over 150+ into base banner cuz of grace and then realizing ellen is optimal for the acc's longevity.
ZhuYuen's passive, if its the same as the trial version we get in the story, is activated by having an ether character or a support character. It doesnt say faction. So you can put her on a team with day Rina or Soukaku for instance and you dont need to have Nicole. But nicole is probably the better choice because of nicoles passive.
I was pulling for Ellen but it's a good thing that she didn't come home yet. Zhu Yuan gameplay is super similar to Grace's (my favorite character yet) so I'll save for her, even if I don't really like her design-wise
honestly I'm saving for this first patch, I like both characters but I don't love them, there isn't that need like with Seele and Jing Yuan that I had. Honestly, biker chick with the sword and shield and Dark Mode Ayaka from the release trailer are who I'm saving for. Edit: Yo also great work on these ZZZ videos, I really appreciate you tying this to fighting game stuff just because thats a good personal frame of reference for me. I'd love to see you breakdown some unique mechanics of character kits like you did with Nicole for one of the closed betas.
Im gonna adapt to whatever the game throw at me. Currently i got s11 c1, so i decide to build lucy and piper. And also i got multiple copy of soukaku, because i dont have chars that can utilize Zhu kit (nicole/rina/grace) im going for ellen.
Great video. Precisely because of elemental immunity and what not, i'm pulling any and every character I can lol. Can you do a video on team synergy? Ex: different lineup orders, 2 vs 3 characters. Sometimes you can get 4-5 chain attacks just with an dps, support and bangboo. A lot of depth in the combat of this game it's great imo.
I think I'mma pull for Joe. I want Zhu, but I already have teammates built that'll work best with Joe. Though I really do need a character with the same element type thing as Nicole.
I love Ellen SO much. Zhu Yuan is definitely a possibility but I love Soukaku so much (as a demon lover) so Soukaku and Ellen synergy is just TOO good. Excited for a 5 star demon (boy or girl) at some point!
I want both so im getting both (i have a job and the funds so get all charcters once if i want) but if i had to choose probably ellen because her design and playstyle (not a meta person).
Definitely going Ellen! But if possible gonna try and get her W engine and maybe more copies of her this might the one game I become pay to play on I also loved how you broke down the characters on the video of choosing a 5 star I was waiting for you breakdown on Ellen
TLDR Hold shift + hold left click then spam left click Or hold shift + hold left click E left click (wait for her to kick her pole thingy and wait for the thing to stop spinning) then E left click again, rinse and repeat This game is very causal, there’s not much ‘ceiling’ to combo, most of the time you can literally close your eyes spam left click and space bar and things will die regardless
@@ssj4gogetaexperimental147 Nicee, congrats!! I got Ellen's weapon on my first 10 pull in the weapon banner, but sadly no Lycaon yet, I guess I'll just save the rest of the pulls for Zhu Yuan banner to have at least two decent teams xD
@IyoXS I've been trusting your takes in HSR so I'm going to trust you here - I'd love to know what you think about Disorder. Is it stronger than, say, a mono-Ice team (Ellen/Lyc/Sup)? If I was going to build a Disorder team right now, I'd go Ellen/Lyc/Rina so I still have one of the strongest elements (ice), plus fast application of second element (shock) to proc Disorder plus have res pen - what's your take?
Coincidentally I have a tier list video releasing tonight and I go over that exact team comparison. lol TLDR; I agree with you and believe that Ellen/Lyc/Rin team is the strongest version of her team. Hooowever, that's not to say Kaku isn't golden on the team either. Over 1k+ raw ATK boost to the entire team, Ice DMG % boost & Ice RES Red for the entire team + 1 combo freezes? Saokaku is really dang strong for freeze comps at launch. It's super hard to make the argument whether or not single instance Disorder triggers will be stronger than perma-freeze + her omniboosts.
Imo there’s no strongest character, there’s only the strongest team. In most cases, building around a dps is safe, but the most important thing is building around type synergy and whatever you roll in the beginner banner.
Hey @Iyo XS, I usually don't play mechanically "difficult" characters but I really like Ellen so I've decided to try and master her combo's for this game like you explained. My question is, will you make a video explaining in detail how to do the optimal inputs for Ellen (and other characters) once the game releases?
Honestly if u want a team where the damage dealer comes in after the enemy is stunned, (like me) Go with Ellen But if you want a team where the damage dealer is always on the battlefield, go with Zhu Yuan Me personally Ima get em both, I got Ellen and her w engine, I just need Lycon and then Zhu Yuan when she comes out
Got lucky and got Ellen already, so now it’s time to save for Zhu Yuan. ZZZ is actually GOTY for me so far. The music, graphics and gameplay is amazing. 🤷🏿
Fav gacha creator of all time Also for a ZZZ channel personally I think it should have a ZZZ pfp instead of Klee but it’s up to you to change it luv your work, I’ll always have faith in the Iyo take ❤
I wanna change it to Ellen, but Hoyo sucks at making these stickers for any other game besides Genshin. Idk who the artist is they have in the basement, but I need them to make me some ZZZ stickers NOW. lol
I mean if Zhu yuan still has the same faction bonus like the trial with faction of support I feel like she may have a chance as a second dps roll where u just only go to her to use special unload the bullets and then don’t use until that moment again I mean Yh the only way of getting bullet would be through follow up assists, ultimate and special but could work who knows I’m not some team master mind just thinking of ideas for future lol either way I was going for her before I even downloaded the game
I'm going to be real I'm going to skip both of them I don't them just not that interested in them maybe this video might change my mind also first Edit: I love Ellen
Zhu Yuan's playstyle fits me to a T, I love her animations/moveset... however it's hard for me to pass up on an edgy maid. My decision will solely hinge on whether or not I win the 50/50s, and how important the weapons will be for the endgame.
I don't even have to reroll. I got Ellen, her weapon, her pet in 30 pulls total. I thought the first ten pull were designed to always guarantee the S drops, but I was wrong. I also have Grace and Nekomiya from regular banner and I'm thinking about selling my account at this point lol
Question for you, F2pP, got lucky and got Ellen and her W-engine, then rolled for her again to try to get her first unlock. Got lucky again and got it, so I was curious if you think/feel that may have been a waste, or if you think its nice to have her charge and fill up meter in one attack. worried I may have wasted the tickets, but again I'm not even 30 yet, so I got pretty lucky on pulling for her as it is xD
I'm picking Zhu Yuan because she's a Gunner. And I'm pairing her with Nicole and Billy. Nicole is basically a... Rifle User? And Billy is an Akimbo Pistol Wielder
22:45 imaginary is a actual element in HI3. Im from this game and im about to try ZZZ if what you’re saying is right, it gives me more reason to play (even tho i would’ve tested it anyway) great vids man🔥 like and sub from France🇫🇷
well coming from hi3rd..in my first 5 hours experience it basically a reskin lite hi3rd combat with mini games and colour..and good soudtrack..the combat is..meh i guess..coming to this after playing hi3rd part 2 is not satisfying for me
I think the Mono Ice team is definitely the strongest one for now Sousaku is really good support that can buff dmg, Lycaon stunning fast and shredding ice resistance and Ellen as really strong dmg dealer I'm definitely getting her since I have c2 Lycaon already
Definitely going to be pulling for Zhu Yuan. Ellen seems just like a “waifu” (😟) character, and those types of characters don’t appeal to me. Though, Zhu Yuan gives me major Leon Vibes from resident evil. I feel as if Zhu Yuan could have major, major value later on.
19:53 agree. I came from mostly single player games and GBFR because I wanted a casual game that had some higher skill ceilings to sweat a bit. Definitely a high % of wuwa are casual
I feel like I have to try to go for Zhu Yuan because I have Grace so they kinda fit together in terms of how they attack and so it'll feel better than swapping to some other characters.
Idk if you care for leaks but there's a character that might be coming in 1.1 who should be physical anomaly and is stated to pair well with grace. So might be worth waiting if your f2p
Only reason I can't get myself to pull for Ellen is because of Soukaku. I understand that we'll be getting copies of everyone, but knowing, off-rip, that Soukaku is guaranteed later on feels like an L to me XD Also the guy on the banner is someone I actually DO NOT want. So Ellen is someone I gotta wait for😢 THAT SAID!! Zhu Yuan and Nicole, from my understanding, are gonna be on the same banner and I'm finna break my tape BANK for them XD
I thought I was going to main Billie but I got tired of kiting really fast. I’m not sure if I would wanna change from the Ellen play style back to a play style like Billie’s.
Well man, I now have 3 accounts with guaranteed. Talk about luck, but this vid give me hope man. Maybe me and Zhu Zhun are just meant to be. Or should I just wait for 1.1
I'm either pulling zhu yuan or neither. We got so many pulls for "free" at the start. I have no idea if zzz is going to be as generous as hsr or stingy like genshin.
2:02 I'll still collect whatever husbandos or waifus i think are cute, but I've got into vertical investment with hsr (saving up for lcs) compared to how I played genshin, almost never pulling weapons
That's just how F2P friendly Genshin is compared to HSR and potentially ZZZ in which both games kinda incentivizes you to also need the weapons, having elements react to almost everything in Genshin is kinda like the reason why it's easier compared to the other two games.
Pin 📌
Aight you earned it this time, bub.
I find it so ironic that Nicole, who's a total troublemaker and part of an odd-job agency, has particularly good synergy with an upstanding, reliable, by-the-books cop lady
I know right 😂😂😂
So Nicole is gintoki from gintama:0
Vi and Caitlyn from arcane/league
Opposites attract
is there ever a closer relationship than an officer and their CI?
Ellen and Zhu Yuan wanters will be Ellen and Zhu Yuan havers, blessing all of yall 🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯
Good thing my Ellen is guaranteed. Got the Wolf butler in the very first 10 pull of her banner.
thank you i wanted ellen and soldier 11 i lost the 50/50 and got soldier and now due to your blessing i got ellen early on about 30-40 pity and i got lycaon from standard banner
@@NihilityBreaker Blessings to you, got my Ellen yesterday, i only got her 4 pulls away from hard pity but it was worth it.
Got Ellen and Rina ty
@@duckychan6100 no problem my child 🙏
Said it once and will say it 100 more times. Zhu Yuan is the hottest fully clothed female character in the entire hoyo games
What does "fully clothed" even mean? 😂
@@tylerkincaid5200Basically she’s very attractive with or without clothes on. It’s a good thing when a woman can pull off a suit or uniform
@@tylerkincaid5200 it means no need for onlyfans
Arlecchino for me
@@testament-h3k she's too mommy for me. But i get you
I'll pull for whoever is available. No waiting, no saving, just pull pull pull. I'll use who I get.
bro is hakari
Based gambling addict chad
Always bet on Hakari
I always do this in Hoyo games. No skips, just pull, pull and pull
Same
shark 👍 maid 👍 fast 👍
I read that as shark maid feet
@@MegaKabutops777that too
@@MegaKabutops777 that works too.
She is mad fast like damn
Can I just say how much I appreciate you making actual informative content on the game instead of just shitting on it? Most of my usual go-to channels have put out nothing but hate toward the game, and it's getting more than a little grating. Like damn, man, if you don't like it, don't play it. Ain't no reason you gotta post eleven videos about how much you hate it when the people who are actually searching for ZZZ content are just looking for goddamn gameplay guides. I digress, keep up the good work, man.
Ikr. I try to search for ZZZ content on YT and most of what pops up are just hate videos or toxic drama. It's nice to have a go-to cc that actually has a productive video and not just whine for 10+ minutes. I'm not saying they have to dck ride Hoyo everytime but damn, we get it... they hate the game so they should just move on.
It's Genshit fans mad there game is so ass
Killing it with these videos man. Getting me super excited for launch. Need Lycaon and Ellen in first 10 pull 🙏🏼
That’s what I like to hear right there!
Hope you get Ellen, so you don't use Corin in Ellen's team.
Wait I have Lycaon available for me so is Ellen good or should I save for miyabi?
I can make these teams with either
Lycaon,soukaku,Ellen/miyabi
If I go for Ellen I can get the Victoria faction buff
If I go for miyabi I can get the shiyu defense force buff
@@Försvar_OpsEllen/Lycaon/Sokaku are the current best team in the game. Lycaon will also work really well with Miyabi. Either one would work due to ice/faction bonus for the main DPS.
So pick a fav I guess. Don’t know when Miyabi is coming, and I’d rather get Ellen.
@@DNAbro I think miyabi is coming after the zhu hua? (Idk the name of the cop girl) Banner
I prefer longer videos because your knowledge of games with elements reminiscent of fighting games, and having these ways to change the gameplay that's just shown to you is something I like. Can't wait to hop on and learn these characters gameplay potential. Unfortunately, others aren't providing this depth of insight, but I'm glad to have someone to watch for detailed gameplay info.
Yo can you PLEASE make a Combo guide video for every character? You're the most knowledgeable CC on this, and it's a kind of content only YOU can do.
Thanks in advance for the awesome videos
As a long time Souls player I really appreciate your take on things and how in depth you go with how you can play around with the mechanics in this game. While the game itself isn't a challenge necessarily, it's the fact that I can no challenge myself to learn these mechanics or little tricks that will make playing characters more fun/engaging. I really look forward to the future of this game and how I can mess around with different playstyles and gimmicks. Really appreciate your content man, only stumbled across you a week before ZZZ launch and you're who I been solely watching outside of build guides and what have you. Keep it up!:
Super helpful for understanding the kits, thank you! I’m looking forward to Ellen 🙌🏾
Glad I could help!
I love nier and Ellen kinda gives me nier vibes with how she plays. She's also a cute shark maid so I pull.
You mean 2B from Nier Automata? Yeah, them both are so cool!!
oh wait that's so true, i was thinking about what she reminded me of when i played her!!
@mint_zzz specifically A2, the dash is near identical lmao
Genuinely don't think you can go wrong with either character, but I'm going for Zhu Yuan because she just looks so fluid to play. I think fast paced characters are a lot more valuable in this game than the slower ones so she seems like she'll probably stay meta for a while just for that reason.
Also great video, nice to see someone cover the game with FGC experience because that brings a welcome perspective to analysis for the game that most other YTers covering ZZZ won't have.
Absolutely excited for this as I LIKE how hard HSR is. Genshin has a super low skill floor and WuWa has a super high skill ceiling, but this seems to be a combination of the two and if we have the difficulty of HSR with DEEP character investment, and managing patch buffs, I'm going to have a blast
I gonna need that video on W-engines I hope people dont sleep on them. HSR and Genshin you can get away with not having sig weapons as for HI3rd you can always craft and use alts options.
I'll add it to my list to work on for sure! Might try to collab with someone on some numbers.
Wait you want them to be mandatory for good builds? Why would you willingly want people to spend more? Maybe I'm reading your comment wrong sorry. :S
Seeing that Zhu Yuan gameplay was all I needed. She looks sick!
Ellen is the whole reason I'm excited for this game. I'm getting her. Zhu Yuan would be a nice pickup. I like characters with a kit that requires engagement.
It keeps throwing me off that Electro elemental damage is bright blue colored in this game. Cuz then Ice is a more pale blue. You’d think they would’ve made Electro a yellow color or something.
Yellow would be too similar to Ether damage. Idk actually purple for Lightning would look sick (in a good way ofc)
@@mint_zzzether is purple I think. Physical is yellow and super common though
@@mint_zzz ether is like a byzantine violet and indigo. at least the icon
@@FrostyPeppercorn quite off topic but you sound like my mother explaining colours to me
Oh so that is right about the materials need to upgrade the agents. I always felt like my resources are easily depleted so it is indeed expensive spending resources. I literally building all my agents lols..
Good explanation and comparison of the element lockout meta for end game content
iyo always bring a unique perspective to the take and im here for it 😊
I can’t wait to pair up that tank cop dude with Zhu
Glad you are making content on this game. Used to watch all your star rail content. Great insight and you set players up for success
I know I can trust a youtuber when they have persona 5 music in the background
I'm honestly more interested in some of the main roster units more than the limited ones so far, BUT...gotta give the algorithm a nudge.
Good stuff man and keep it up. Also, just an idea, but I think a podcast between u and smack would be a great idea. You both have an extensive FG background and relish in competitive and complex gameplay so I feel like a conversion between yall would be interesting for a lot of people outside of that space that are from the gacha space especially since ur familiar with most combat focused gachas outhere.
3:20 between Nicole’s hidden command and this I’m really looking forward to this game🤣
This was actually super informative!! I found it super helpful to hear an in-depth explanation between both characters’ kits. I pulled for Ellen already bc I really like her and I also just love Von Lycaon, and got SUPER lucky by pulling him off of standard! No rerolls needed 🎉
I’m going to wait to see on who the next 5* may be for 1.1 BUT I honestly really dig Zhu Yuan’s design and kit. I might pull for her if there isn’t anyone who interests me coming up next!
For anyone that says combat looks mid or whatnot
Trust me
The visuals is very deceiving
I was also skeptical about the combat
But when i got to actually do it im cbt3
You can REALLY feel the movement of the characters
Zhu yuan for example is very "jumpy" i would say idk how to describe it cuz she feels very tactile in terms of controls
And her pace is at the VERY fast spd
Ellen while looks flashy feels a bit like a great sword user but 50% faster cuz her animation has a lot of charge stages
And tbh my favorite is ben
Why ben?
He is for me at least the most technically interesting and unique out of all the others i've tried
Ben has a LOT of kinda secret moves which you unlcok after doing the active skill for the first time
Some of them are rocket jet pillar punch
My favorite that you can do after doing his active skill once and using half the energy bar
Cool af
Also yes he moves VERY slow
But his attacks is not
You can further enhance this game combat speed by constantly swapping characters and basically idk... How to call it but " animation buffer"?
A bit different from canceling animation since some characters has attacks that carries over even after you switch and ben's dodge attack can help mitigate some enemy action by ramming himself to the enemy after you switch out at his 4-5 combo string
And other cool hidden combo stuff that you'd find in fighting games
The term you're thinking of is switch tech, where a character's longer attack animation can continue after you switch to a different character and still be on screen at the same time as you are controlling the new character until the attack finishes. There are some characters in Wuthering Waves that have moves built around switch tech (looking at you, Encore)
The last bit is similar to Intro/Outro Skills in WuWa, is it not?
You can literally clear the ‘abyss’ of this game with your eyes closed only listening to sound indicator up til 7th floor
I’m 31 and I attempted it with Ellen + Amby + Soukaku, finished in before the 6min S rank benchmark, with my eyes closed only spamming left click and space bar
This game is extremely casual and ceiling is not high either
"The visuals is very deceiving" *proceed to only talk about the visuals*.
Then I guess I was right, the combat IS as boring as it looks
I'm getting Zhu Yuan cause I like her beeg CAKE and also her fast paced gameplay. I'm horrible on slow and easy to play characters for some reason 😂😂.
fast is good
real shit that shit dummy thicc
Slow and easy to play makes no sense ur just bad 🤣🤣
I love Ellen gameplay but Zhu Yuan mechanics gives me Hyperreal (PGR) vibes: ordinary bullet, strong bullet stack, some AoE damage, auto dodge, hopping all around the field, and nuke.
Hyperreal is my favourite man I can't decide yet
I was really considering to pull for Ellen but this shot at 2:36 was absolutely enough to convince me to save for Zhu Yuan. Thanks Iyo.
New viewer, been using Billy, very good, failed on Ellen 50/50 and got Neko when reached level 30, sad. Started an 2nd account to try my luck again for Ellen, if 2nd account fails again. Then i will main my first account and save pulls for Zhu Yuan, she looks an upgraded version of Grace and Billy, looking quite fun and looking forward the game could bring more content and story to it.
To activate her core passive it's not like the rest of the agents where it's the same attribute or faction. With Zhu Yuan it's either a support character ir the same faction so you can tune her with other supports too
So true on the economy for gear being incredibly stingy. Currently i was analyzing what would be the best course of action for my account and all in all considering i have nearly C4 soukaku and also having lycaon pulling for ellen would be the most optimal play for me. Since that enables me to use my current nekomata that i also got early on in my pulls to have her be in a team with anby & piper/nicole. Ofc everyone should focus on pulling for what they want first. Be it waifu meta or just cause you wanna try a kit, but if you're looking to get into the endgame you gotta recognize that this game is going to be an arm's race for damage output similar to pgr from what i can tell. So if you care about your performance then it's time to GENUINELY start planning your pulls ahead of time. Don't be like me with over 150+ into base banner cuz of grace and then realizing ellen is optimal for the acc's longevity.
Coming from a fighting game mindset having played some myself has been helpful in explaing which chrachters I should focus on or to commit
I love the persona OST in the background :D
ZhuYuen's passive, if its the same as the trial version we get in the story, is activated by having an ether character or a support character. It doesnt say faction.
So you can put her on a team with day Rina or Soukaku for instance and you dont need to have Nicole. But nicole is probably the better choice because of nicoles passive.
I was pulling for Ellen but it's a good thing that she didn't come home yet. Zhu Yuan gameplay is super similar to Grace's (my favorite character yet) so I'll save for her, even if I don't really like her design-wise
honestly I'm saving for this first patch, I like both characters but I don't love them, there isn't that need like with Seele and Jing Yuan that I had. Honestly, biker chick with the sword and shield and Dark Mode Ayaka from the release trailer are who I'm saving for.
Edit: Yo also great work on these ZZZ videos, I really appreciate you tying this to fighting game stuff just because thats a good personal frame of reference for me. I'd love to see you breakdown some unique mechanics of character kits like you did with Nicole for one of the closed betas.
Zhu Yuan seems very good and cool to play. First time ever I'll start saving for pulls.
Im gonna adapt to whatever the game throw at me. Currently i got s11 c1, so i decide to build lucy and piper.
And also i got multiple copy of soukaku, because i dont have chars that can utilize Zhu kit (nicole/rina/grace) im going for ellen.
Great video. Precisely because of elemental immunity and what not, i'm pulling any and every character I can lol. Can you do a video on team synergy? Ex: different lineup orders, 2 vs 3 characters. Sometimes you can get 4-5 chain attacks just with an dps, support and bangboo. A lot of depth in the combat of this game it's great imo.
I posted here can't find it Ellen Joe is my favorite 5 star so far she's awesome
Luckily, I got Ellen early so I can save more polychrome for Zhu Yuan. Hopefuly I am not losing 50/50 in Zhu Yuan banner.
I think I'mma pull for Joe. I want Zhu, but I already have teammates built that'll work best with Joe. Though I really do need a character with the same element type thing as Nicole.
Ellen for sure, looks good and had the same JP VA as my girl tove in Nikke
Good debut brother, amazing content keep it up !
Btw, can you drop your music playlist ? This shi is crazy
I really like Ellen and her tail but
- Zhu oneesan
- good sinergy with Nicole
Design-wise, Zhu Yuan reminds me of a cross between KOF's Leona and Kiyone/Space Police from Tenchi Muyo, and that's all I need to pull
I love Ellen SO much. Zhu Yuan is definitely a possibility but I love Soukaku so much (as a demon lover) so Soukaku and Ellen synergy is just TOO good. Excited for a 5 star demon (boy or girl) at some point!
I want both so im getting both (i have a job and the funds so get all charcters once if i want) but if i had to choose probably ellen because her design and playstyle (not a meta person).
Definitely going Ellen! But if possible gonna try and get her W engine and maybe more copies of her this might the one game I become pay to play on I also loved how you broke down the characters on the video of choosing a 5 star I was waiting for you breakdown on Ellen
TLDR
Hold shift + hold left click then spam left click
Or hold shift + hold left click E left click (wait for her to kick her pole thingy and wait for the thing to stop spinning) then E left click again, rinse and repeat
This game is very causal, there’s not much ‘ceiling’ to combo, most of the time you can literally close your eyes spam left click and space bar and things will die regardless
Like all gacha games. Not sure why you ever thought gacha games had “revolutionary gameplay”
I already have Soukaku maxed out and a pretty strong Von Lycaon, but I have yet to pull Ellen once, and I'm like 80 pulls in or smth. Wish me luck!
Good luck man! Lost a 50/50 really early in my account (like pity 2 lol) and only today I secured my Ellen, and I got say, it was totally worth it : )
@@averagejohn2786 I got Ellen a couple days ago! :3
With a C6 Soukaku and and C0 Lycaon, I've secured a fairly decent lineup, ngl
@@ssj4gogetaexperimental147 Nicee, congrats!! I got Ellen's weapon on my first 10 pull in the weapon banner, but sadly no Lycaon yet, I guess I'll just save the rest of the pulls for Zhu Yuan banner to have at least two decent teams xD
@@averagejohn2786 No dice on the weapon banner :(
@IyoXS I've been trusting your takes in HSR so I'm going to trust you here - I'd love to know what you think about Disorder. Is it stronger than, say, a mono-Ice team (Ellen/Lyc/Sup)? If I was going to build a Disorder team right now, I'd go Ellen/Lyc/Rina so I still have one of the strongest elements (ice), plus fast application of second element (shock) to proc Disorder plus have res pen - what's your take?
Coincidentally I have a tier list video releasing tonight and I go over that exact team comparison. lol
TLDR; I agree with you and believe that Ellen/Lyc/Rin team is the strongest version of her team. Hooowever, that's not to say Kaku isn't golden on the team either. Over 1k+ raw ATK boost to the entire team, Ice DMG % boost & Ice RES Red for the entire team + 1 combo freezes? Saokaku is really dang strong for freeze comps at launch. It's super hard to make the argument whether or not single instance Disorder triggers will be stronger than perma-freeze + her omniboosts.
@@IyoXS Can't wait to see it, I'll def be watching for it. So basically we don't know if Disorder is stronger until after release and more testing?
Imo there’s no strongest character, there’s only the strongest team. In most cases, building around a dps is safe, but the most important thing is building around type synergy and whatever you roll in the beginner banner.
Hey @Iyo XS, I usually don't play mechanically "difficult" characters but I really like Ellen so I've decided to try and master her combo's for this game like you explained. My question is, will you make a video explaining in detail how to do the optimal inputs for Ellen (and other characters) once the game releases?
Now after playing the game, it's not about who should I pull, it's about when can I save enough to start pulling...
Honestly if u want a team where the damage dealer comes in after the enemy is stunned, (like me) Go with Ellen
But if you want a team where the damage dealer is always on the battlefield, go with Zhu Yuan
Me personally Ima get em both, I got Ellen and her w engine, I just need Lycon and then Zhu Yuan when she comes out
Got lucky and got Ellen already, so now it’s time to save for Zhu Yuan. ZZZ is actually GOTY for me so far. The music, graphics and gameplay is amazing. 🤷🏿
They both look great, if rerolling doesn't take long, I will probally just go with whatever one I land first.
The long format is working for ya. Nice to listen to at work.
Also guys subscribe what is this 3k??
Appreciate that beneath the mask backtrack my guy
I'm loving ZZZ ngl it's so fun and the animation is amazing but W vid
Fav gacha creator of all time
Also for a ZZZ channel personally I think it should have a ZZZ pfp instead of Klee but it’s up to you to change it luv your work, I’ll always have faith in the Iyo take ❤
I wanna change it to Ellen, but Hoyo sucks at making these stickers for any other game besides Genshin. Idk who the artist is they have in the basement, but I need them to make me some ZZZ stickers NOW. lol
One note for the music , Ellen's demo song has a metal riff at the end and it's amazing
I mean if Zhu yuan still has the same faction bonus like the trial with faction of support I feel like she may have a chance as a second dps roll where u just only go to her to use special unload the bullets and then don’t use until that moment again I mean Yh the only way of getting bullet would be through follow up assists, ultimate and special but could work who knows I’m not some team master mind just thinking of ideas for future lol either way I was going for her before I even downloaded the game
I'm going to be real I'm going to skip both of them I don't them just not that interested in them maybe this video might change my mind also first
Edit: I love Ellen
Best channel
Zhu Yuan's playstyle fits me to a T, I love her animations/moveset... however it's hard for me to pass up on an edgy maid. My decision will solely hinge on whether or not I win the 50/50s, and how important the weapons will be for the endgame.
I don't even have to reroll. I got Ellen, her weapon, her pet in 30 pulls total. I thought the first ten pull were designed to always guarantee the S drops, but I was wrong. I also have Grace and Nekomiya from regular banner and I'm thinking about selling my account at this point lol
i am sooo going to save my pull and WAITTTTT. Meanwhile I'll be building up those prominent 4 stars and 5 star from the standard banner.
0:04 Ahmmm! actually they are gardening shears !!
jokes apart love the vid keep it up
My favorite characters are both Ice and Ether at the moment, I’ll just see if I get lucky!
Question for you, F2pP, got lucky and got Ellen and her W-engine, then rolled for her again to try to get her first unlock. Got lucky again and got it, so I was curious if you think/feel that may have been a waste, or if you think its nice to have her charge and fill up meter in one attack. worried I may have wasted the tickets, but again I'm not even 30 yet, so I got pretty lucky on pulling for her as it is xD
I'm picking Zhu Yuan because she's a Gunner. And I'm pairing her with Nicole and Billy. Nicole is basically a... Rifle User? And Billy is an Akimbo Pistol Wielder
22:45 imaginary is a actual element in HI3. Im from this game and im about to try ZZZ if what you’re saying is right, it gives me more reason to play (even tho i would’ve tested it anyway) great vids man🔥 like and sub from France🇫🇷
well coming from hi3rd..in my first 5 hours experience it basically a reskin lite hi3rd combat with mini games and colour..and good soudtrack..the combat is..meh i guess..coming to this after playing hi3rd part 2 is not satisfying for me
I think the Mono Ice team is definitely the strongest one for now
Sousaku is really good support that can buff dmg, Lycaon stunning fast and shredding ice resistance and Ellen as really strong dmg dealer
I'm definitely getting her since I have c2 Lycaon already
*Soukaku
You got so lucky man
Definitely going to be pulling for Zhu Yuan. Ellen seems just like a “waifu” (😟) character, and those types of characters don’t appeal to me. Though, Zhu Yuan gives me major Leon Vibes from resident evil. I feel as if Zhu Yuan could have major, major value later on.
I will get both, no questions asked
19:53 agree. I came from mostly single player games and GBFR because I wanted a casual game that had some higher skill ceilings to sweat a bit. Definitely a high % of wuwa are casual
We've had plenty of cat tail characters, some wolf tail, heck even some dragon tail. But I've never seen shark tail before, sign me up for Ellen
heres what you should do save them pulls especially if you a fp2 just save a lot of pulls for future chars the game is mainly skill base anyway
I feel like I have to try to go for Zhu Yuan because I have Grace so they kinda fit together in terms of how they attack and so it'll feel better than swapping to some other characters.
Idk if you care for leaks but there's a character that might be coming in 1.1 who should be physical anomaly and is stated to pair well with grace. So might be worth waiting if your f2p
@@squinklings Good. Goooooooooood. Idc about leaks as long as its true
@ArcRaizer yeah we'll see if it's true or not! Hopefully it is and that they announce her in the next day or two. Her name is Jane Doe
I ended up going after Ellen after pulling Lycaon on my free pulls i saved up.
Only reason I can't get myself to pull for Ellen is because of Soukaku. I understand that we'll be getting copies of everyone, but knowing, off-rip, that Soukaku is guaranteed later on feels like an L to me XD Also the guy on the banner is someone I actually DO NOT want. So Ellen is someone I gotta wait for😢
THAT SAID!! Zhu Yuan and Nicole, from my understanding, are gonna be on the same banner and I'm finna break my tape BANK for them XD
Ellen have at 2 other ice character you can get, zhu yuan only have 1 other ether and probably one faction character in her banner.
I thought I was going to main Billie but I got tired of kiting really fast. I’m not sure if I would wanna change from the Ellen play style back to a play style like Billie’s.
Well man, I now have 3 accounts with guaranteed. Talk about luck, but this vid give me hope man. Maybe me and Zhu Zhun are just meant to be. Or should I just wait for 1.1
I'm either pulling zhu yuan or neither. We got so many pulls for "free" at the start. I have no idea if zzz is going to be as generous as hsr or stingy like genshin.
Don't roll for any, save up for Hoshimi Miyabi. Trust me guys, your account will become so strong
I lost the 50/50 on my first 10 pull, so next S tier is guaranted, I really can't decide between the two
62 pulls in and still not sure if I should even get Ellen
I'm a fairly recent player. If I missed my chance to pull for her, will that opportunity eventually come back?
I don't think weapons are going to matter much since most of the buffs are only totaling to 10-20% less than free ones (unless your multi-star it).
I have rina so should I pull for Ellen to pair with her?
Neither of them have silver hair so im probably skipping them both. The cop chick does look good though
I got my sweet waifu Koleda on the first attempt, I feel blessed
2:02 I'll still collect whatever husbandos or waifus i think are cute, but I've got into vertical investment with hsr (saving up for lcs) compared to how I played genshin, almost never pulling weapons
That's just how F2P friendly Genshin is compared to HSR and potentially ZZZ in which both games kinda incentivizes you to also need the weapons, having elements react to almost everything in Genshin is kinda like the reason why it's easier compared to the other two games.
Hope this game will be balance like Wuwa
Not like honkai 3rd the power creep really crazy