Biggest problem is going to be the attachments. It's going to be a while until they come out with a full line of attachments. As someone that uses all kinds of hydraulic attachments and doesn't want to buy new ones it would have been nice if they could have somehow integrated an auxiliary hydraulics system separate from everything else.
Yeah it was the the thing that stood out most for us as well. Hopefully as technology advances that might be a solution. For a lot of people, to buy new attachments would make going electric less attractive.
@@dennisbeltran9156 I agree with you, but as a homeowner with 289D, I find myself doing a lot of quick odd-jobs that has the machine starting and stopping a lot without much actual run time. Might be good for that, but for the $$$, not sure how many home owners could afford it.
I think its a great start, I just had a cement contractor at my house forming up a patio for me. Two guys were here for about 4 hours, they ran the bobcat for maybe half an hour the rest of the time they were working on forms and hauling out dirt. So I can see a niche market.
Yeah its going to be very interesting going forward. It definitely has its place for sites where fumes etc are an issue.. however charging on site will be the big challenge.
Yeah it would have been awesome if it was more. We were told the average hrs for loaders is roughly 1000 per year so in theory... that's 4 hrs a day. In our opinion however.. you will only see this on specific sites where fumes are an issue, wont be on mainstream sites until the run time is improved.
@@nickbrown6694 You have to start somewhere. The first Tesla Model S had a batteryrange of 260 miles. The current Model S has 405 miles of range. That is just 10 years of innovation. Also, that 4 hours was 4 hours of continuously and heavy work.
Hi Miguel, that's the biggest thing with these electric loaders... you cant. There is a range of electric attachments coming. We dont know if there will be any solution for existing attachments in the future.
Having that in California now having to decide AC or plug in car or better yet machine that allows you to have a house and car and what will electric cost if you even get it lol and remember it takes a lot of oil to make the machine and battery and how about minerals lol
Didn't get the impression from chatting to Bobcat that this was a "green machine". They were primarily focusing on applications where electric could be of benefit.
I think they should re-design this thing like the JCB One-Arm, teleskid design. If you are going to innovate ... then innovate, just don't replace the guts with something not as efficient. And make the loader pack-rat proof. One packrat gets into all those wires .... good luck. I mean at least with hydraulic powered equipment, there is a "hydraulic pressure relief" so that you can get out of the cab incase you are trapped in the unit with the loader arms across the door. The JCB doesn't have this problem (side door) and an all-electric Bobcat might. How do those batteries do underwater? Salt water/brackish water? I can see this sort of unit working well in mining/tunnel/indoor use where exhaust is an issue. Another thing about the bobcat I didn't like is where they put the window washer motor on the windsheld which vibrates and makes noise when going over rough terrain, not to mention blocks your vision of the work area. The JCB has it right.
Raised some pretty good points. The side door entry is pretty neat, however Im lead to believe the single arm isnt as durable on a skid steer, so there is plus and minus to it. In terms of the design, we had hoped to see a totally new concept at 50%+ of the the parts have been removed so there is a lot more space so we thought there might be a brand new platform, but most of it is configured into frame of T76.
@@AdareMachineryLtd I love to see innovation as much as the next guy. As far as 50% less parts, well, if you remove the hydraulic pump system that powers hydraulic powered machinery, you can save a lot of parts right there. So I am not so keen on those numbers being accurate. I think they should start these machines on the stand on platform mini-skids where there are a lot less hydraulic powered equipment that would need to be replaced. Like the MT100, most guys have a bucket, forks and so being without external hydraulics wouldn't be that detrimental. With the full skid steer platforms with ROP you have trenchers, planers, mowers, concrete mixers, vibratory rollers, jaw crushers, augers, mulchers, rock pickers .... and at least 2 dozen more attachments ... that would need to be 'electrified' or replaced with some sort of electric powered hydraulic pump on the machine. What I like about the machine is that you don't have the same maintenance. Engine Air filters plugging from dust, but I am sure the in-cab filters do. There will be no engine oil filter, maybe no hydraulic oil filter ... until they add that system. The insulation on those wires feeding the loader arms is going to have to be real tough, UV stabilized and rat teeth stabilized. Make sure they put rat killer in the insulation. Small thorny sticks/branches often times fall between the crevices in machines and will wear away the insulation jacket as does rubbing with the hydraulic lines. I hope there is some sort of short-protection in the machine otherwise it will be like trenching into an electrical line or hitting a power pole line with a flashover effect should the electrical runs be worn too thin. Batteries are Heavy as well, by how much did they increase the weight of the machine without any corresponding boost in productive capacity? If the machine gets too heavy, drivers will need bigger trailers with extended load capacities that will put them into the CDL range and this could stop most operators from purchasing. You might be able to go with an all aluminum trailer to make up the weight, but taking a flimsy trailer like that down a rocky washboard road will destroy all the welds and fasteners within months. Many other industry accommodations will need to be made when you are on the cutting/bleeding edge and it always hurts to be there as an early adopter because it's on you to figure these ancillary things out.
If you can replace the battery it might get a chance in competing but relying only on charging sound like very limiting. It might work in some urban projects where noise is a problem but I don't see it being used widely as a real tool.
Agree.. we would love to see it the other way around. In its defense tho.. the average loader runs about 5 hrs a day and this isnt miles away from that number.
So a person or company would have to buy at least two of these in order to get a full 8 hour workshift in. That's gonna go over like a lead balloon. LOL.
I know where you are coming from, but realistically these loaders wont mainstream sites for quite some time. More likely to be used on specialist applications where diesel isn't suitable.
Can't pay for itself with only 4 hours of work time and 10 hours to charge it. That is a waste, STOP trying to make everything electric and study on how to make machinery better with an exhaust system. My gosh this is getting ridiculous in a huge way. I wouldn't buy a bobcat anyway, and you sure couldn't give me this electric CRAP!!
Don't think we will see diesel diesel machines being replaced anytime soon. However for indoor /underground work where fumes are an issue... An electric loader would be one way of solving it.
Its interesting alright.. the average loader runs about 5 hours a day. We had a big back and forth off camera talking about stretching out the hours but there are so many variables.
worlds first eh? I have an electric skid steer (its a Thomas 175 that I converted) it has hydraulics, just the motor was replaced. I can get, as is 2 hours run time with 2 hours charge, its all I needed. I can upgrade it to 4 or 6 hours run time with the respective charge times. I built it 2 years ago. mind you it doesn't have the same power as with the original diesel engine, but it will lift a pallet of pavers.
if the electric skid loaders follow the same pattern as electric cars, pickups, and farm tractors - you're looking at a basic Bobcat "electric" skid steer costing $150,000 OR MORE!!
Good idea. We actually asked that in follow up video in Bauma last month. Not an option at the moment, but keep an eye out for the follow up in the next few weeks.
Its nice to see our work day cut in half. Not sure how that'll work for paying our mortgages. On the bright side... our air will be so much cleaner getting rid of those fuel guzzling micro 4 cylinder engines.
Because you are still converting energy then, thus consuming power. Hydraulics have to stay under pressure, those actuators don't consume any energy when not in use. I expect this to be more energyefficient.
I'm reaching out to all bobcat fans, bobcat owners, and bobcat mechanical engineers, bobcat eletrical engineers, lastly Doosan CEO, this is going to be an extensive comment. Awesome technology! From a maintenance perspective the electric concept is interesting, so no more oil filter change, fuel filter change, no more hydraulic oil filters, air filter change? well, maybe an airfilter that is use to cool electronic components. All I can comprehend right now is just servicing the gear oil and grease. I have a few questions from a maintenance perspective. When it comes the time to replace a battery pack, how does one go about it? Is the battery pack on a sliding tray where its easily changeable? Do you need special proprietary diagnostic tools? If so, how much are they and are they available to the public? Also what about physical speciality tools to remove a components, are they available to the public? (in general, owners should be aware of maintenance cost). Please please Bobcat, DO NOT FOLLOW John Deers business model of PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE. youtube "Farmers Are Hacking Their Tractors Because of a Repair Ban" (very informational video if anyone is curious). I've seen too much stuff break on the maintenance side and makes it very difficult when the information is only available at a dealership. I understand that in the auto industry, after a warranty is expired, its profitable when components breaks. Thus, taking it to the dealership due to a tiny sensor or a component that is poorly designed. Sensors are part of the technology that is suppose to better the world. In general, sensors should not be easily disabled due to a tree branch snagged a wire. Or.... a sensor that is located in a poorly spot that is stupidly difficult to replace/troubleshoot. (Im sure there are limitations of space that you are working with and I understand). If you make the electric bobcat where if lets say.. a sensor see that the lift cylinders are overload, (where it makes the inoperable or out of service, and there is no way of repairing/RESET the sensor at home or on the job site. I will then not be interested in this product period. I understand the purpose of sensors for safety reasons. However, There should be an feature on the touch screen where it would say that you can override a sensor at your own liability/risk. Or something a long the lines of limp mode. I HOPE Bobcat innovates with a lot of forward thinking on designs as for practical repairs/upgrades. On the topic of batteries, I know we us civilization is going forward on battery technology. In the event lets say, we civilization somehow mass produce graphene battery at a good price where its affordable, I, as a owner, would like to be able to replace the battery for a newer one. I should as the user be able to do this at home with some basic tools. My father has a 1996 753 bobcat that has been through a lot of abuse and it still works to this day and have done a lot of repairs at home. The arms cracked in the center, I welded it back together, one of the hydraulic solenoids went bad, replaced it. Aux Control Module randomly clicks clicks clicks then failed, replaced the expensive module. Tried and true skid steer. Question, could you make all the major components last for 26 years? Overall, big fan of bobcat skid steer, glad how you guys are innovating, keep at it!
Yeah on the first look its not going to work. But.. avg loader is about 5 hrs of work so maybe its not that bad. We have a follow up coming soon, so let us know any questions you want us to get answered.
its pretty interesting alright.. we were just at Bauma in Germany and ALOT of brands were showcasing electric machines. Its seems that legislation is a huge driver, however most brands did speak about customers looking for electric options.
Trying to help reduce global warming by eliminating green house gas emissions from the combustion of fossil fuels. Human induced emissions are the primary driver of global warming.
As soon as you use them for yourself you will see. Electric powered vehicles and equipment is so much more powerful, efficient, and cost effective than traditional power equipment
I don't know about the states, but for governmental projects in Europe they usually have a public tender where all parties that would like to get that work can post their plans. Then, when the tender closes and they have to select, they will compare you on duration, price, plans, etc. For being environmental friendly, they add a fictional discount to your price. So lets say we have company A and B, both want to renew an intersection. A and B have exactly the same plans, but A is smarter and can do the job for 90k, where B asks 100k. B however, only uses fully electric equipment and that is awarded with a fictional discount of max. 15k. B scores that 15k. Then, even though they are in fact more expensive, B gets awarded the contract and the government pays 100k instead of 90, because B is more environmental friendly. Also permits often require some sort of environmental care. In my previous job, we had to replace some stuff on older buildings. We did not get the permit the first time, because we were using diesellorries. In the second request we said our transporter had an electric lorry and we got the permit.
They're trying to appease people like me, who don't want the hassle that goes with carburetor engines. I have an electric self-propelled, walk behind mower and I love that thing. So easy. Stick in the batteries and go. I understand there are people who love engine maintenance. My neighbor likes to buy used and fix it up, and has decades of experience. I just want something to work for me; I don't want to bond with it.
4 hrs run time and then wait 10hrs to recharge and continue working ridiculous!!! How about on a snow storm that requires to be working all day long, how about jobs that need to be done fast an quick but only 4 hrs of work a day because of the ridiculous machine! I’ll stick to my diesel equipment all a need is get a cup of coffe and diesel to work all day long.. 😂😂😂 but still a good video
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah will be hard to see the 1st generation working in a snowstorm TBH, however the machine they showed at conexpo (S7X - Wheels) has an 8hour run time, so improvements being made. But from now.. Diesel is king.
Yep you’re really disrupting the industry with your 28.5% duty cycle, also what happens when it’s -40? 14% duty? All I have to do is take a minute to put more diesel in my machine and it goes for another 8-10 hours. So I guess what you’re trying to do is get more sales cause I’ll need to buy at least 3 to get through a 12 hour work day 🤣🤣
We did a follow up with them and asked them about working in cold weather with an EV. They said that the cold is myth when it comes to battery time. Have to take that a face value as we dont have any experience with ultra cold weather and EV ourselves.
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One that I’ll give you is this would be badass for working indoors 👌👌
Fully agree!
Biggest problem is going to be the attachments. It's going to be a while until they come out with a full line of attachments. As someone that uses all kinds of hydraulic attachments and doesn't want to buy new ones it would have been nice if they could have somehow integrated an auxiliary hydraulics system separate from everything else.
Yeah it was the the thing that stood out most for us as well. Hopefully as technology advances that might be a solution. For a lot of people, to buy new attachments would make going electric less attractive.
Agreed!
10 hrs to charge to only run for 4 hrs 😂😂 what a waste of money unless it’s used in warehouses
100 hrs charge to work 40 hrs not feasible...
@@dennisbeltran9156 I agree with you, but as a homeowner with 289D, I find myself doing a lot of quick odd-jobs that has the machine starting and stopping a lot without much actual run time. Might be good for that, but for the $$$, not sure how many home owners could afford it.
I think its a great start, I just had a cement contractor at my house forming up a patio for me. Two guys were here for about 4 hours, they ran the bobcat for maybe half an hour the rest of the time they were working on forms and hauling out dirt. So I can see a niche market.
Yeah its going to be very interesting going forward. It definitely has its place for sites where fumes etc are an issue.. however charging on site will be the big challenge.
What a beautiful machine! Will be a game changer, once you can fully charge it in under 1 hour.
4hrs run time, hilarious
Yeah it would have been awesome if it was more. We were told the average hrs for loaders is roughly 1000 per year so in theory... that's 4 hrs a day. In our opinion however.. you will only see this on specific sites where fumes are an issue, wont be on mainstream sites until the run time is improved.
It'd be nice as a homeowner to have it for out in the yard....not so much use for it as a commercial company
@@nickbrown6694 You have to start somewhere. The first Tesla Model S had a batteryrange of 260 miles. The current Model S has 405 miles of range. That is just 10 years of innovation. Also, that 4 hours was 4 hours of continuously and heavy work.
Good for inside
So how I can used my all hydraulic attachments trench,auguer and more
Hi Miguel, that's the biggest thing with these electric loaders... you cant. There is a range of electric attachments coming. We dont know if there will be any solution for existing attachments in the future.
Hows the resale value?
It's suposted to be a self changeble battery pack like in forklift
Yeah we asked about this.. there seems to be a lot of work going on behind the scenes with newer and bigger batteries
Very nice machine and I’m sure it will have its place but I heard they are going to cost 200000. Is that correct.
We havent got the figures yet on this machine, so truthfully.. we dont know. But as soon as we do, will confirm with you
Having that in California now having to decide AC or plug in car or better yet machine that allows you to have a house and car and what will electric cost if you even get it lol and remember it takes a lot of oil to make the machine and battery and how about minerals lol
Didn't get the impression from chatting to Bobcat that this was a "green machine". They were primarily focusing on applications where electric could be of benefit.
I think they should re-design this thing like the JCB One-Arm, teleskid design. If you are going to innovate ... then innovate, just don't replace the guts with something not as efficient. And make the loader pack-rat proof. One packrat gets into all those wires .... good luck. I mean at least with hydraulic powered equipment, there is a "hydraulic pressure relief" so that you can get out of the cab incase you are trapped in the unit with the loader arms across the door. The JCB doesn't have this problem (side door) and an all-electric Bobcat might. How do those batteries do underwater? Salt water/brackish water? I can see this sort of unit working well in mining/tunnel/indoor use where exhaust is an issue. Another thing about the bobcat I didn't like is where they put the window washer motor on the windsheld which vibrates and makes noise when going over rough terrain, not to mention blocks your vision of the work area. The JCB has it right.
Raised some pretty good points. The side door entry is pretty neat, however Im lead to believe the single arm isnt as durable on a skid steer, so there is plus and minus to it. In terms of the design, we had hoped to see a totally new concept at 50%+ of the the parts have been removed so there is a lot more space so we thought there might be a brand new platform, but most of it is configured into frame of T76.
@@AdareMachineryLtd I love to see innovation as much as the next guy. As far as 50% less parts, well, if you remove the hydraulic pump system that powers hydraulic powered machinery, you can save a lot of parts right there. So I am not so keen on those numbers being accurate. I think they should start these machines on the stand on platform mini-skids where there are a lot less hydraulic powered equipment that would need to be replaced. Like the MT100, most guys have a bucket, forks and so being without external hydraulics wouldn't be that detrimental. With the full skid steer platforms with ROP you have trenchers, planers, mowers, concrete mixers, vibratory rollers, jaw crushers, augers, mulchers, rock pickers .... and at least 2 dozen more attachments ... that would need to be 'electrified' or replaced with some sort of electric powered hydraulic pump on the machine. What I like about the machine is that you don't have the same maintenance. Engine Air filters plugging from dust, but I am sure the in-cab filters do. There will be no engine oil filter, maybe no hydraulic oil filter ... until they add that system. The insulation on those wires feeding the loader arms is going to have to be real tough, UV stabilized and rat teeth stabilized. Make sure they put rat killer in the insulation. Small thorny sticks/branches often times fall between the crevices in machines and will wear away the insulation jacket as does rubbing with the hydraulic lines. I hope there is some sort of short-protection in the machine otherwise it will be like trenching into an electrical line or hitting a power pole line with a flashover effect should the electrical runs be worn too thin. Batteries are Heavy as well, by how much did they increase the weight of the machine without any corresponding boost in productive capacity? If the machine gets too heavy, drivers will need bigger trailers with extended load capacities that will put them into the CDL range and this could stop most operators from purchasing. You might be able to go with an all aluminum trailer to make up the weight, but taking a flimsy trailer like that down a rocky washboard road will destroy all the welds and fasteners within months. Many other industry accommodations will need to be made when you are on the cutting/bleeding edge and it always hurts to be there as an early adopter because it's on you to figure these ancillary things out.
If you can replace the battery it might get a chance in competing but relying only on charging sound like very limiting. It might work in some urban projects where noise is a problem but I don't see it being used widely as a real tool.
Agree.. going to be a long time before it becomes mainstream. But good to have an option of electic for certain jobs.
I'm proud of you guys now fix that stupid door. I hate my door.
Noted :D
4 hours of work to 10 hours of charge! Good luck selling that
Agree.. we would love to see it the other way around. In its defense tho.. the average loader runs about 5 hrs a day and this isnt miles away from that number.
So a person or company would have to buy at least two of these in order to get a full 8 hour workshift in. That's gonna go over like a lead balloon. LOL.
I know where you are coming from, but realistically these loaders wont mainstream sites for quite some time. More likely to be used on specialist applications where diesel isn't suitable.
@@AdareMachineryLtd or for someone who owns a farm or something and only used the loader a few times a month for an hour or so at a time.
Buy a couple batteries and switch them every 2 or 3 hours.
Can't pay for itself with only 4 hours of work time and 10 hours to charge it. That is a waste, STOP trying to make everything electric and study on how to make machinery better with an exhaust system. My gosh this is getting ridiculous in a huge way. I wouldn't buy a bobcat anyway, and you sure couldn't give me this electric CRAP!!
Yeah have a diesel generator on the job site lol to charge all the electric equipment lol.
@@ashleywynn4923 I don't know of anyone that would want this JUNK, and I'm not just speaking of Bobcat junk, but electric junk period!
Don't think we will see diesel diesel machines being replaced anytime soon. However for indoor /underground work where fumes are an issue... An electric loader would be one way of solving it.
I think you would be surprised the actual time using it is not that much.
Its interesting alright.. the average loader runs about 5 hours a day. We had a big back and forth off camera talking about stretching out the hours but there are so many variables.
worlds first eh? I have an electric skid steer (its a Thomas 175 that I converted) it has hydraulics, just the motor was replaced. I can get, as is 2 hours run time with 2 hours charge, its all I needed. I can upgrade it to 4 or 6 hours run time with the respective charge times. I built it 2 years ago. mind you it doesn't have the same power as with the original diesel engine, but it will lift a pallet of pavers.
Will get working on changing the title! :D
Nice vest lol
Haha we can organise one for you if you want 😉
if the electric skid loaders follow the same pattern as electric cars, pickups, and farm tractors - you're looking at a basic Bobcat "electric" skid steer costing $150,000 OR MORE!!
Running electric attachments should really kill the battery pretty fast.
This will be really interesting to see how attachments perform in the future.
If they had slide in and out batterries.
Good idea. We actually asked that in follow up video in Bauma last month. Not an option at the moment, but keep an eye out for the follow up in the next few weeks.
Its nice to see our work day cut in half. Not sure how that'll work for paying our mortgages. On the bright side... our air will be so much cleaner getting rid of those fuel guzzling micro 4 cylinder engines.
A Tesla size lithium battery unit only replaces 2 gallons of diesel in terms of energy output. Absolutely pathetic when you account for cost.
Will be interesting to see what happens in the future.. We were curious to know if a hybrid model would be introduced at some stage
Why not just have electric motors run hydraulic pumps ?
Because you are still converting energy then, thus consuming power. Hydraulics have to stay under pressure, those actuators don't consume any energy when not in use. I expect this to be more energyefficient.
I'm reaching out to all bobcat fans, bobcat owners, and bobcat mechanical engineers, bobcat eletrical engineers, lastly Doosan CEO, this is going to be an extensive comment.
Awesome technology! From a maintenance perspective the electric concept is interesting, so no more oil filter change, fuel filter change, no more hydraulic oil filters, air filter change? well, maybe an airfilter that is use to cool electronic components. All I can comprehend right now is just servicing the gear oil and grease. I have a few questions from a maintenance perspective. When it comes the time to replace a battery pack, how does one go about it? Is the battery pack on a sliding tray where its easily changeable? Do you need special proprietary diagnostic tools? If so, how much are they and are they available to the public? Also what about physical speciality tools to remove a components, are they available to the public? (in general, owners should be aware of maintenance cost).
Please please Bobcat, DO NOT FOLLOW John Deers business model of PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE. youtube "Farmers Are Hacking Their Tractors Because of a Repair Ban" (very informational video if anyone is curious). I've seen too much stuff break on the maintenance side and makes it very difficult when the information is only available at a dealership. I understand that in the auto industry, after a warranty is expired, its profitable when components breaks. Thus, taking it to the dealership due to a tiny sensor or a component that is poorly designed.
Sensors are part of the technology that is suppose to better the world. In general, sensors should not be easily disabled due to a tree branch snagged a wire. Or.... a sensor that is located in a poorly spot that is stupidly difficult to replace/troubleshoot. (Im sure there are limitations of space that you are working with and I understand). If you make the electric bobcat where if lets say.. a sensor see that the lift cylinders are overload, (where it makes the inoperable or out of service, and there is no way of repairing/RESET the sensor at home or on the job site. I will then not be interested in this product period.
I understand the purpose of sensors for safety reasons. However, There should be an feature on the touch screen where it would say that you can override a sensor at your own liability/risk. Or something a long the lines of limp mode.
I HOPE Bobcat innovates with a lot of forward thinking on designs as for practical repairs/upgrades. On the topic of batteries, I know we us civilization is going forward on battery technology. In the event lets say, we civilization somehow mass produce graphene battery at a good price where its affordable, I, as a owner, would like to be able to replace the battery for a newer one. I should as the user be able to do this at home with some basic tools.
My father has a 1996 753 bobcat that has been through a lot of abuse and it still works to this day and have done a lot of repairs at home. The arms cracked in the center, I welded it back together, one of the hydraulic solenoids went bad, replaced it. Aux Control Module randomly clicks clicks clicks then failed, replaced the expensive module. Tried and true skid steer. Question, could you make all the major components last for 26 years?
Overall, big fan of bobcat skid steer, glad how you guys are innovating, keep at it!
Hi Kin, thanks for taking the time to comment. Will make sure we forward them onto Bobcat directly.
Turning on the heat and A/C probably cuts run time down to 2 hours. No thanks. I will stick with diesel.
Haha we asked this question in a follow up video... A/C doesn't effect it (allegedly)
8 hr job at a non powered remote site. Houston, we have a problem. LO FRKN" L
Yes fully agree.. but hard to see why anyone would bring this machine to a remote site with no power?
Lol half a work days worth of battery. Go woke, go broke. 😂😂
Yeah on the first look its not going to work. But.. avg loader is about 5 hrs of work so maybe its not that bad. We have a follow up coming soon, so let us know any questions you want us to get answered.
@@AdareMachineryLtd They also said it is 4 hours of full heavy work.
Seriously though, why are all these companies putting so much R&D into this E.V. stuff all of a sudden…who are we trying to appease here?!?
its pretty interesting alright.. we were just at Bauma in Germany and ALOT of brands were showcasing electric machines. Its seems that legislation is a huge driver, however most brands did speak about customers looking for electric options.
Trying to help reduce global warming by eliminating green house gas emissions from the combustion of fossil fuels. Human induced emissions are the primary driver of global warming.
As soon as you use them for yourself you will see. Electric powered vehicles and equipment is so much more powerful, efficient, and cost effective than traditional power equipment
I don't know about the states, but for governmental projects in Europe they usually have a public tender where all parties that would like to get that work can post their plans. Then, when the tender closes and they have to select, they will compare you on duration, price, plans, etc. For being environmental friendly, they add a fictional discount to your price. So lets say we have company A and B, both want to renew an intersection. A and B have exactly the same plans, but A is smarter and can do the job for 90k, where B asks 100k. B however, only uses fully electric equipment and that is awarded with a fictional discount of max. 15k. B scores that 15k. Then, even though they are in fact more expensive, B gets awarded the contract and the government pays 100k instead of 90, because B is more environmental friendly.
Also permits often require some sort of environmental care. In my previous job, we had to replace some stuff on older buildings. We did not get the permit the first time, because we were using diesellorries. In the second request we said our transporter had an electric lorry and we got the permit.
They're trying to appease people like me, who don't want the hassle that goes with carburetor engines. I have an electric self-propelled, walk behind mower and I love that thing. So easy. Stick in the batteries and go. I understand there are people who love engine maintenance. My neighbor likes to buy used and fix it up, and has decades of experience. I just want something to work for me; I don't want to bond with it.
4 hrs run time and then wait 10hrs to recharge and continue working ridiculous!!! How about on a snow storm that requires to be working all day long, how about jobs that need to be done fast an quick but only 4 hrs of work a day because of the ridiculous machine! I’ll stick to my diesel equipment all a need is get a cup of coffe and diesel to work all day long.. 😂😂😂 but still a good video
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah will be hard to see the 1st generation working in a snowstorm TBH, however the machine they showed at conexpo (S7X - Wheels) has an 8hour run time, so improvements being made. But from now.. Diesel is king.
4 hours run time no thanks
Yep you’re really disrupting the industry with your 28.5% duty cycle, also what happens when it’s -40? 14% duty? All I have to do is take a minute to put more diesel in my machine and it goes for another 8-10 hours. So I guess what you’re trying to do is get more sales cause I’ll need to buy at least 3 to get through a 12 hour work day 🤣🤣
We did a follow up with them and asked them about working in cold weather with an EV. They said that the cold is myth when it comes to battery time. Have to take that a face value as we dont have any experience with ultra cold weather and EV ourselves.
No thanks I will take a diesel hydraulic
What a joke 4hrs of run time and 10hrs to charge
I get what you are saying.. however a new S7X (wheels) just launched with an 8 hour run time. So at least its improving fast
No thank you
This is a huge waste of money to be productive
You reckon? We thought there would be certain applications that could reslly make use of an electric machine