Digital was also a buzz word back then, it has even survived to these days. But yeah, turbo is kinda cooler because it sounds cheesier now and it was added to things totally unrelated with the actual meaning
@@BatHunterofDevon Indeed! By that point I think Blue Weever their Fairlight programmer had probably sampled a lot of the drum machines into the CMI Series III. A TR808 was sampled in for the song Rent.
I love the mask you put on the video to outline the machine and composite it into the background. Great demo video besides but I just wanted to comment on the visual.
I used the SP-12 on most of my recordings from 1986 to 1990, although I seldom used the stock sample set. I usually created my own samples in the studio, or ripped them from isolated hits on commercial CDs. I managed the sample and song library using Blank Software's DrumFile on a Mac Plus.
+JazzLicka I think they probably used everything EXCEPT the LINN, they never wanted that sound on their records (well Daniel Miller didn't) because everyone else used it. They used the DRUMULATOR around the construction/great reward era...
I did the stupid thing of selling mine years ago and later buying an Emulator II thinking it would sound the same. The SP-12 sounds way more dynamic and punchier for drums maybe due to it´s 12-bit linear sampling, compared to the EII´s digital companding.
What is that called in the manual, when you change the fader and the machine remembers the fader movement for pitch? 6:45 I love that! I thought that was only something that came along later in the 90s.
Here's a chicken-or-egg question: starting at 1:03 I hear a bunch of samples from real songs...the tom is from Madonna's "Crazy For You", one snare is from Phil Collin's "Sussudio" and another snare is Collin's "Ricki Don't Lose My Number"...... NOW both the Madonna and Collins albums came out in February '85 while all I can find on the release of this machine is "1985." Did E-mu sample those songs or did all those artists get their hands on this super early on? I'm leaning towards the former.
kz1000ps Cool fact, didn't know that. Genesis/PC and engineer Hugh Padgam were kind of pioneering the crazy compressed + gate reverbed snare sound of the 80's
I like the Emax better , it sounds the same (same electronics ) , but you have access to all the parameters that are not avaible on the SP , plus all the usual parameters you usually find on an analog synthesizer( 2 envelope generators, complete filter controls , assignable LFO and assignable velocity to most parameters ) , plus you can have 88 different samples for each preset , or 196 if you layer two samples on each of the 88 keyboard ( or Midi ) notes ( then you can crossfade between the two samples using velocity . It 's just perfect for making drumkits. You have the same pitch limitations when pitching upwards (+ 7 semitones at 22khz ) but no limits pitching downards, so you can sample a sound at +48 semitones , then play it back pitched 4 octaves down to use very little memory space using this method : it's similar to sampling 33 rpm vynils in 45 rpm with the SP-12 , but much more extreme ! You can use the emax as well as an 8 voice, 2 oscillator per voice hybrid analog polyphonic synthesizer , or as an SP-12 ( but the 8 track sequencer sucks , no quantize function ) The SP-12 has no "magic" groove at all , it has no swing or shuffle , the "groove" comes from the way you cut your samples ( i.e. shorten or leave a little blank at the beginning , for a few milliseconds )
My emax se's and my sp1200 sound totally different once you pitch shift. Also, they aren't the same the SP's are true 12bit, the emax is 12bit companded into 8bits (actually an 8bit machine with some lovely trickery) now, I LOVE my emax's passionately but, they don't sound the same as the SP's.
Fantastic presentation of the original stock sounds that came with the SP12. But one question, when you sample your own sounds how did people save them back in the day, since there's no disk drive?
Is there a way to expanse the recording time in it ? Also are there original Emu or other sound banks online that can be unloaded through midi transfer or sysex etc ? Thanks !
The E-mu library are the 5 1/4 inch floppy disks, wich came with the SP-12 and the ones which were offered by E-mu for the SP 12 back then. But I don't know where you could find them today.
"Blue Monday" and most of their output from 1983-1986 used an Oberheim DMX. "Movement" used acoustic drums, a Simmons (SD5?) E-drumkit, and a BOSS Dr-55.
One in a flightcase (as the camera pans to the band): th-cam.com/video/5XoXG3k9iZk/w-d-xo.html Two on the keyboard stand (side by side above the Emulator II): th-cam.com/video/Y53AlSKhQGE/w-d-xo.html
Do you know what drum machine was used on: Eric B & Rakim - Move The Crowd: th-cam.com/video/ZLtjVHsNVcA/w-d-xo.html Three Times Dope - Crushin & Bussin: th-cam.com/video/YEkYXsK_Xik/w-d-xo.html J.V.C. FO.R.CE. - The Force Is The Boss: th-cam.com/video/BXWxkqjdyC4/w-d-xo.html They all use the same pre-sets including that trademark snare and rimshot but the drum machine is alluding me. Any idea?
The demo failed, he should sample other sounds than drums. The filters in this machine are the real value. Given it's 12bit, added with analog filters. Can't get any better.
sp 12 and sp 1200 are super overrated.4600 us dollars auction right now on ebay for a sp 1200?!?!An emulator II sounds better than sp 12 pr 1200 and 100 times more powerful for the price of a sp12.5 years ago sp 12:800 euros sp 1200 :1500 eurosnow price is twice at least ; people have waited 2016 to think this box worth 4600 us or 1800 us for a sp12?this is just hype to show off...if u have one sale your sp for 5000 us dollars u will find a stupid guy to buy it....and buy instead a 808 which has NO equivalent.....u want sp12 sounds? buy an Emulator II the prices ars now same! just incredible...
if u want New Order digital drum sounds buy a DMX ( blue monday) which is also with the 808 a hip hop legend ot the yamaha Rx5 ( bizarre love triangle) ( rx5 are super underrated) or buy a boss dr 55 for that analog sound of the Joy Division early New Order era ( truth single for exemple)...;sp is a robbery
Having had a dmx, dx(a)(still have), sp12 turbo sp1200(still have) I definitely don't agree, the SP's can do far more and sound better when well recorded.
Use band "Juzni Vetar" from 1987 to today in Serbia!
From the 1985 year
@@nesajuve From 1983 to 1986 Juzni Vetar use EMU Drumulator.
Tacno,Juzni Vetar i dan danas koristi od 1986 godina ja sam veliki fan JV pozdrav iz Makedonija
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Not band, studio.
Drums sound so industrial when you pitch them down on an SP-12 due to the aliasing and resoution. I love it so much.
Industrial music isn't about drum sounds.
@@daisaigai7 k
This was the drum machine used for Boogie Down Productions - South Bronx. Now i finally know where the cowbells at the beginning come from!!
Yeah the SP - 12 Turbo was used on almost every track.
Same with Critical Beatdown. Ced-Gee was damn resourceful with this piece of equipment, one of hip-hop's greatest producers.
Your drum programming is outstanding.. I would die to hear some of these in some super camp italo disco.
"Turbo" was the most popular word of the 80's :)
And "Rambo" wasn't far behind!
Digital was also a buzz word back then, it has even survived to these days.
But yeah, turbo is kinda cooler because it sounds cheesier now and it was added to things totally unrelated with the actual meaning
They love to use "tron" at the end of the names in the 60´s, too.
In the 90s the word was "Extreme" - you couldn't order a Taco from Taco Bell without going Extreme
@@oberday
AHahahahahahahahaha,
Salt n Pepa “Push It”
Famous Yugoslavian band "Južni Vetar" made most of their hits on this machine.
Tacno Juzni Vetar jos je ima od 1985/6 goidna
And "Haustor" as well:)
Juzni Vetar
@GazimestanKS da,sp12 prvi put je na Sinanov album svi gresimo 1987 pre toga oberheim matrix 12,
Ne postoji Matrix12 sa "ugradjenom" ritam masinom.
Ova mašina I Casio Cz su bogatstvo južnog vetra
This machine can be heard all over Pet Shop Boys’ debut album Please. Sounds great!
I'm pretty sure this was used in Actually as well.
Especially at 1:04 - That snare sound is DEFINITELY used in 'What Have I Done To Deserve This?'
@@BatHunterofDevon Indeed! By that point I think Blue Weever their Fairlight programmer had probably sampled a lot of the drum machines into the CMI Series III. A TR808 was sampled in for the song Rent.
Just realised I have a whole folder full of these samples already, so I'll be rocking these sounds in a new 3DM track very soon.
I love the mask you put on the video to outline the machine and composite it into the background. Great demo video besides but I just wanted to comment on the visual.
A drum machine full of funky rhythms.
Great beats! I love the sound of EMU gear. My old EMAX 2 sounded awesome.
I used the SP-12 on most of my recordings from 1986 to 1990, although I seldom used the stock sample set. I usually created my own samples in the studio, or ripped them from isolated hits on commercial CDs. I managed the sample and song library using Blank Software's DrumFile on a Mac Plus.
I like much more the SP-12 samples than the Lindrum's
best use of built-in sounds: BDP Dope Beat
Wow. So many New Order drums on here. I think they used pretty much every drum on here. Cool video.
"Let's make lots of money..."
Oportunies
The SP-12 was heard in Take Me Home and Centerfield.
I sometimes accidentally got wrong.
Es muy Depeche Mode, Pet shop boys, New Order, etc. etc. wuauuu!!
yo no se casi nada musica electronica, pero depeche mode suena mas a la Serie Emax que al sp 12, saludos!
Chido por la clase de historia bro, de verdad, gracias por el aporte
En el documental "Synth Britannia" Vince Clark cuenta que la 1a máquina que usaron como DM para percusion fue la BOSS DR 55. Drumulator vino luego.
@LJ B en people are people la usan?
Depeche Mode, "People Are People" comes to mind listening to this awesome piece of kit, I am unsure if they used these though.
no they used the LINN
JazzLicka No they used Synclavier on "People Are People"
+JazzLicka I think they probably used everything EXCEPT the LINN, they never wanted that sound on their records (well Daniel Miller didn't) because everyone else used it. They used the DRUMULATOR around the construction/great reward era...
The SP-12 was heard in Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
SP-12 clap sounds like the TR-909 clap which sounds like the TR-808 clap/TR-808 claps.
they sampled it from a Roland drum machine
In the song “Crush on You”, the E-mu Systems SP-12 was heard.
If you mean The Jets song, its mixture of SP-12 and TR-808 cowbell
What?!? I thought it was a linn!
In “Knocked Out”, the E-mu Systems SP-12 and LinnDrum were heard.
The intro reminded me of the Pet Shop Boys.. They must have owned one of these.
They used an emulator. Probably had the same sounds on disk
I did the stupid thing of selling mine years ago and later buying an Emulator II thinking it would sound the same.
The SP-12 sounds way more dynamic and punchier for drums maybe due to it´s 12-bit linear sampling, compared to the EII´s digital companding.
AWESOME SEQUENCES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@1:44 sounds like the drum pattern from the Last Dragon “ Got the Glow” by Willie Hutch RIP
4:43 sounded like a House'ish beat to this part for some reason right here, I like it!
woah, it just struck me listening to these sounds, could this be what Yello used on "Oh Yeah"...? ;)
awesome channel and vids by the way!
What is that called in the manual, when you change the fader and the machine remembers the fader movement for pitch? 6:45 I love that!
I thought that was only something that came along later in the 90s.
Your videos are really really good
Here's a chicken-or-egg question: starting at 1:03 I hear a bunch of samples from real songs...the tom is from Madonna's "Crazy For You", one snare is from Phil Collin's "Sussudio" and another snare is Collin's "Ricki Don't Lose My Number"......
NOW both the Madonna and Collins albums came out in February '85 while all I can find on the release of this machine is "1985." Did E-mu sample those songs or did all those artists get their hands on this super early on? I'm leaning towards the former.
As I know some of the samples were indeed sampled from "Sussudio" I red in a P.C. interview.
Ah, well there we go! Thanks for confirming what I suspected -- it only makes this amazing machine even better!
kz1000ps Cool fact, didn't know that. Genesis/PC and engineer Hugh Padgam were kind of pioneering the crazy compressed + gate reverbed snare sound of the 80's
+AnalogAudio1 And the original sounds for Sussudio were done on the 909, Dont lose my number were done on a linn.
nice beat!
powerful sound! nice video
It's funny that "Analog Audio" demos one of the most digital-sounding machines there ever was :-)
lovely!
I like the Emax better , it sounds the same (same electronics ) , but you have access to all the parameters that are not avaible on the SP , plus all the usual parameters you usually find on an analog synthesizer( 2 envelope generators, complete filter controls , assignable LFO and assignable velocity to most parameters ) , plus you can have 88 different samples for each preset , or 196 if you layer two samples on each of the 88 keyboard ( or Midi ) notes ( then you can crossfade between the two samples using velocity . It 's just perfect for making drumkits.
You have the same pitch limitations when pitching upwards (+ 7 semitones at 22khz ) but no limits pitching downards, so you can sample a sound at +48 semitones , then play it back pitched 4 octaves down to use very little memory space using this method : it's similar to sampling 33 rpm vynils in 45 rpm with the SP-12 , but much more extreme !
You can use the emax as well as an 8 voice, 2 oscillator per voice hybrid analog polyphonic synthesizer , or as an SP-12 ( but the 8 track sequencer sucks , no quantize function )
The SP-12 has no "magic" groove at all , it has no swing or shuffle , the "groove" comes from the way you cut your samples ( i.e. shorten or leave a little blank at the beginning , for a few milliseconds )
My emax se's and my sp1200 sound totally different once you pitch shift. Also, they aren't the same the SP's are true 12bit, the emax is 12bit companded into 8bits (actually an 8bit machine with some lovely trickery) now, I LOVE my emax's passionately but, they don't sound the same as the SP's.
I agree about the emax's sequencer though, it is garbage. The only way to something out of it is to bounce from a better sequencer for live use
Emax is lovely sounding sampler but doesn't punch
simple and good ..just the way I like it
cool stuff
So good!
Nice one
Amazing⚡️
Fantastic presentation of the original stock sounds that came with the SP12. But one question, when you sample your own sounds how did people save them back in the day, since there's no disk drive?
You could connect it to a disk drive for the Commodore C64! Or you can use the tape interface, but this takes forever...
4:39 bridge is over!!!
Check song "hej vi hitri dani"
Do you have these original samples? Want to know if they can load in a sp1200?
i bought one of these in 1990 for $1200.....like 3 sec of sample time and came with separate floppy drive.
the Genesis fans are here :)))))
Drum machine used in the Miami Vice theme song? 3:50
Is there a way to expanse the recording time in it ? Also are there original Emu or other sound banks online that can be unloaded through midi transfer or sysex etc ?
Thanks !
me to myself "This looks like a fun affordable machine" *searches ebay* cheapest is $2000
the SP-12 was one of the most expensive drum machines in 1985, it's a professional unit, it is beloved until today..
+AnalogAudio1 Yea it seems great. Just got a Wurlitzer 5020 for $110 with free shipping in perfect working order...and I am loving it.
Pet Shop Boys
Did you use any of your own samples in this demo, or are they all stock sounds?
stock sounds and sounds from the E-mu library
You definitely demonstrated them well,AnalogAudio1. .
thanks!
Hi AnalogAudio1, I just got a SP-12. Where I can find the E-mu library you are talking? Thanks!
The E-mu library are the 5 1/4 inch floppy disks, wich came with the SP-12 and the ones which were offered by E-mu for the SP 12 back then. But I don't know where you could find them today.
Techno in a nutshell :)
DJ premier was using this at the begining
so it was not good enough for him so he switched to the MPC?
@@AnalogAudio1 this was his mother instrument. he started making music on this as a teenager .
Skinny Puppy at 2:41 ?
+Jo Fergus Mhm sounds a bit like 'Dig It'
Silent Shout.
Bro bust a move 😂😊
You can make your own drum beats right?
not only your own beats, but you can also sample your own sounds! 1985 the SP12 was very forward machine.
Thanks AnalogAudio1!
I created of my own
@@AnalogAudio1 That thing sounds really nice and I'm a drummer.
im the benihana chef
The SP-12 got made in 1985 and released in 1986 and some people knew that.
Esta és la de CHARLY GARCÍA .
Creo que la uso en Parte de la religion
Did New Order use one of these?
+Colum Rogers that is exactly what i was thinking when i heard this thing!
True Faith used one, at least
"Blue Monday" and most of their output from 1983-1986 used an Oberheim DMX.
"Movement" used acoustic drums, a Simmons (SD5?) E-drumkit, and a BOSS Dr-55.
One in a flightcase (as the camera pans to the band): th-cam.com/video/5XoXG3k9iZk/w-d-xo.html
Two on the keyboard stand (side by side above the Emulator II): th-cam.com/video/Y53AlSKhQGE/w-d-xo.html
For the love of god, sample a soul record or something.
For the love of god, this is a demo of the pre-set stock drum sounds.
@@RussRockwell no shit, I was being sarcastic.
@@Mythical444 Same here Sherlock.
@@RussRockwell no you weren’t, stop it
@@Mythical444 Yes I was, you stop it.
genius. I'm getting one.
💥🧨🌊
Do you know what drum machine was used on:
Eric B & Rakim - Move The Crowd: th-cam.com/video/ZLtjVHsNVcA/w-d-xo.html
Three Times Dope - Crushin & Bussin: th-cam.com/video/YEkYXsK_Xik/w-d-xo.html
J.V.C. FO.R.CE. - The Force Is The Boss: th-cam.com/video/BXWxkqjdyC4/w-d-xo.html
They all use the same pre-sets including that trademark snare and rimshot but the drum machine is alluding me.
Any idea?
They used an Akai MPC60 with factory sounds.
These things are so awesome and sound great but I personally don't really like the drum sounds. I'd prefer a 909.
The demo failed, he should sample other sounds than drums. The filters in this machine are the real value. Given it's 12bit, added with analog filters. Can't get any better.
Charly García sound
Those beat machines still cost thousands of dollars even use ones.
because they are iconic classics today, not just old electronics.
Yep and I still got my sp1200. Never getting rid of it!!
The Cars
do you have the SP data to send me?
i need the data.... pls!!!
sp 12 and sp 1200 are super overrated.4600 us dollars auction right now on ebay for a sp 1200?!?!An emulator II sounds better than sp 12 pr 1200 and 100 times more powerful for the price of a sp12.5 years ago sp 12:800 euros sp 1200 :1500 eurosnow price is twice at least ; people have waited 2016 to think this box worth 4600 us or 1800 us for a sp12?this is just hype to show off...if u have one sale your sp for 5000 us dollars u will find a stupid guy to buy it....and buy instead a 808 which has NO equivalent.....u want sp12 sounds? buy an Emulator II the prices ars now same! just incredible...
Weird visual edit but ok
if u want New Order digital drum sounds buy a DMX ( blue monday) which is also with the 808 a hip hop legend ot the yamaha Rx5 ( bizarre love triangle) ( rx5 are super underrated) or buy a boss dr 55 for that analog sound of the Joy Division early New Order era ( truth single for exemple)...;sp is a robbery
sp 12 sounds like a poor DMX...
Having had a dmx, dx(a)(still have), sp12 turbo sp1200(still have) I definitely don't agree, the SP's can do far more and sound better when well recorded.
That probably because you have no clue what both of them really are.
This is why the 80's sucked. jusayin
You obviously are a millennial.
what horrible 80's sound haha
nice!!!!