For me, Chaos A.D. is a quintessential metal album for the 90s (along with Vulgar, Demanufacture & Burn My Eyes) as so many bands can have their influences traced back to that album. Plus the lyrics leaning into real-life stories tackling heavy subject matter (Kaiowas, Territory, Manifest etc) was a MASSIVE step up from stuff like Morbid Visions (I find that album cute more than anything)
I may be biased… but I think A-Lex is kinda top tier. Super chaotic and almost progressive/experimental at times. Almost a raw more industrial thrashy Meshuggah album at times. And yeah Quadra is my favorite album by them actually lol
I might be the black sheep of the family but I actually like the Derrick Green era especially starting from the Dante XXI álbum. Their latest álbum Quadra......is a real killer too.
Thank you for not crapping all over the Derrick Green stuff. I think he’s great. Also, I always thought I was weird for not liking Roots very much. Other than Ratamahatta and Roots Bloody Roots I think it’s really boring. My favorite albums are Arise and Schizophrenia but Quadra is up there too 🤘🤘
Love these discography ranking videos. It gives us viewers a chance to see how the reviewers feel about the older albums of a band. I loved Anthony Fantano’s Worst To Best series as well as his tier lists, but since he doesn’t really do them anymore and I mostly listen to rock and metal, these videos are fun to watch. Would love to eventually see one of these done for bands like Morbid Angel and Voivod.
It is funny how much hate the Green era used to get but really Machine Messiah did turn heads, even mine and I had tried to like their records post Max back then. Loved this video thank you, just tested positive for covid this morning and this was a wonderful video to enjoy while feeling cruddy.
Huh. Over the years, I've heard so many other reviewers constantly and relentlessly shit on Against, I was genuinely surprised by your take on it. Glad that there are others out there appreciating it. Excellent job, as always. I'm saluting you with my next beer!
honestly one of the greatest rankings ive ever seen right here, not only can i not really disagree with any take you put out here but you also hit a lot of points that i would also point out about these albums. personally I'm a fan of roorback but thats nitpicking. what a freaking great discography this is, one of the most interesting in all of metal, no doubt about that.
Great video Robert. Really difficult discography to appraise and evaluate because of the range and diversity. I honestly love all those records for different reasons. Truly one of the most groundbreaking and unique catalogs in all metal. Love Sepultura since I was a kid, and still do. Igor Cavalera is one of the greatest metal drummers of all time. Never mentioned anywhere, which is a shame. Recently, I saw an interview with Bruno Valverde, who replaced Eloy in some US shows after he broke his leg. Bruno, a highly studied musician, had to learn Igor’s drumwork for the set, and he was astonished at Igor’s creativity. Igor had no formal training, just a crazy sharp artistic intuition. Today he gets crap for not having Eloy’s stamina (who the heck does anyway?) but he’s a true innovator and is still releasing really cool, leftfield music. If you dig Sepultura’s late 90s and early 2000s experiments, look up the EPs and b-sides from that period. They’ve covered so much sonic ground, have explored so many shades of extreme music over the years. One of the most forward thinking and open minded bands, and forgers of a unique aesthetic.
I was going to suggest a rundown of Sepultura on one of your other videos but did a quick search and sure enough you already did. So, thanks for doing this one. I really love these vids.
This sounds crazy but I think Morbid Visions might be my favorite. They question whether Seven Churches or Scream Bloody Gore was the first death metal album but I think Morbid Visions belongs in the discussion.
I understand how people would like that album for the rawness but man the production kills it for me and the guitar tone, max vocals also could do with being dialled back just a touch, also I felt alot of the songs just blend in together and don't separate themselves enough except for troops of doom, I understand it though, it isn't terrible and has got its own vibe going on which adds cool points
This is one of the greatest bands of all time. They invented Cannibal Corpse, Slipknot, and Korn a decade before some of them even existed. Without Sepultura, us demons would not have theme songs for converting people to the satanic new world order. Without Sepultura, metal would cease to exist and the world would cease to exist.
Great reviews! When I first hear "The Mediator...." I was put on my ass! I will take Arise as my favorite up until then but this album fits greatly more with where my taste in metal is and it was quickly my new favorite Sepultura album. Then Machine Messiah came out! Then Quadra!! "Agony Of Defeat" is easily one of my favorite metal tracks. period. That song is a goddamn masterpiece to me and Derrick's voice is great! It's a shame that so many people won't even listen to it, they could easily be the biggest metal band in the world (but, i think they also need to perform with a second guitar, that is holding them back a lot)
Love the video man, thanks. I love Kairos and it is what made me go back and check the Derrick stuff, after max. But I do understand where you are coming from with your view in the records. much love and respect man
I like the Derrick Green era since Kairos and afterwards. Was hard to find the previous DG albums. Unlike other frontmen, he didn't change the identity of the band too far compared to other bands. I will say that Kairos did have a lot of repetition compared to the later albums I listened to.
I am not a huge Sepultura fan (I think Bestial Devastation EP is their best work, which isn't a take I would expect of me),but the way people write off Dereck Green era just because it has no Max is just really disheartening. The guy has been with the band more than Max was in the bans at this point,yet people still don't want to give him a shot, it's frustrating
I think people are generally more open minded now to the Derrick Green stuff, thanks to Machine Messiah and Quadra, but there's unfortunately ALWAYS going to be a small group of people that thinks Sepultura died when Max left. Fuck 'em, let 'em live in the past.
Came to this video after stumbling upon Arise last night. Can't believe i haven't listened to this band or really even given them a chance. Fucking amazing.
Oh lordy. this is one series of reviews thatd start a war between my friends. a lot of em love Max Cavalera era Sepultura. i might be the black sheep to say i enjoyed some of Derrick Green era sepultura. Especially Quadra. i loved that album. But yeah it's great to see you tackle every sepultura album. Will you tackle Overkill in the future? theyve released at least 20 albums over 40 years
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Fair enough. theyre not for everyone. But yeah man. i loved this yo. made me go back and relisten to Machine Messiah and it did kick some ass
I've been saying Sepultura has one of the best discographies of any band out there, metal or whatever. They've developed into so much more than what they started as and didn't sell out. It would be perfect if not for "Against".
“so I can justify that score”..Dude, love your work man, but having the last two albums outscore Beneath the Remains is (aside from being objectively wrong -wink) just plain ahistorical IM(not so?)HO. Listening to you talk, and realising when you first started to get into Sepulttura, you can’t possibly comprehend how groundbreaking and earth shattering Beneath the Remains was when it came out. I was 14 when I found BTR on cassette in one of New Zealand’s only specialist metal stores and man that thing barely left my Walkman (err, cheap knockoff thereof…)That album fucking split the sky, man. Not just for me, but for an entire generation of metal heads. It sounded so perfectly produced, so technical with its stop-and-change-on-a-pinhead riffs and rhythms, and so brutal. Even lyrically, it was punky, enraged, apocalyptic. It’s my favourite of theirs by a long way and it still to this day occupies a spot in my rotation. Stone cold masterpiece. Loved the review though man, glad to hear your takes and looking forward to giving Machine Messiah another spin some day soon.
Chaos A.D and Roots have always been my favorite, because of how the Brazilian music blended with metal in unexpected ways, but they are excellent before and good after that point too. I definitely need to listen to their newest stuff because I haven't listened past the Mediator. They are a band that is also not annoying when they get political, which is tricky to pull off.
Max left. The band started making money and wanted to fire Gloria. While on tour for this album, Glo's son Dana was killed, and, Andreas's wife tried to have a funeral and have him buried while the band was out to make sure the tour wouldn't stop. The band wanted to not only fire Glo, but fire multiple band techs and roadies who had been with them for over a decade. That is why Max walked away.
You didn't mention it, Do you know that "A-Lex" is a concept album based on A Clockwork Orange? You described it really well but I wonder if you missed the part that its a concept then the whole thing makes way more sense! It has really grown on me and become one of my favorites from them.
I never got into Derrick Green era Sepultura, but I love everything from Schizophrenia onwards through Roots. As for Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation, I'm not a black metal fan so I can't really get into those albums. I have to be in the right kind of mood to listen to Roots.
Yes great discography review! I haven't heard all of them but I very much agree with you on all of them. (Also yes, I love Quadra!! It was between it and Weapons of Tomorrow from Warbringer as my favorite metal album of 2020.)
Interesting ranking,I agree with quite a bit of what you say,though I'd argue that Beneath The Remains slightly beats out Arise,though I am biased cos that's my personal favourite Seps album.The Green era took a while to warm up I think,but from Dante onwards I've enjoyed all their stuff to varying degrees.I actually think that Quadra is one of the best albums they've ever released.Also the concept of A -lex is based on A Clockwork Orange! Keep these rankings going though fella,I always enjoy listening to your opinions.
As a old school Thrasher, I 1st heard Sepultura round '89 (BTR?) & thought they were the future. Then when released their next album it all sounded the same, but then again, so did everybody-either too soft or just a million miles an hr. That's when I said goodbye 2 the new-wave of Thrash!
been a huge fan of early sepultura since october 3rd 2000 so since i was a baby because of my dad arise was my first ever metal album because of my dad i used to have night terrors when i was baby so my dad would play arise for me in his old car in canada when i was a baby and my first word was tura as in sepultura still listening to max cavalera era sepultura 22 years later at 21 years old as a young adult male metalhead and long time heavy metal and extreme metal fan in general i have beneath the reamins schizophrenia morbid visions / bestial devastation and the best of sepultura on cd so a band that has had a massive impact on me musically and emotionally growing up .
Alex and Dante are great albums, the stuff after never caught my interest though...or I didn't even know they came out lol. Roots always put me to sleep. Can't imagine anyone listen to the whole album in one sitting. Rarely got over Ratamahatta
I really like your review because you clearly have your very personal opinion on every album and you don´t take too much into consideration what other channels or critics say. It doesn´t mean i share the same taste but it makes your review very refreshing. As far as i´m concerned, Beneath the Remains, Chaos AD, Arise and Machine Messiah are up there with 4,5/5. Quadra does not click for me for whatever reasons. A-Lex, Kairos and The Mediator [...] are unlistenable for me.
I must be the only one, but my personal favorite album is actually ROORBACK. Of course it was my first album, but I do think it's a bit underrated. And my least favorite it's definitely KAIROS, I only like one song and I don´t remember the name, I only know it's track 13
My list (only including the albums I've heard) Arise 5/5 (a perfect thrash album, my 2nd all-time favourite album) BTR 4.5/5 (aside from a song or two, a perfect album) Quadra 4.5/5 (just like beneath, a perfect album aside for a few songs) Roots 4/5 ( one of their most important records) Machine messiah 4/5 (I prefer Quadra but this album is still really great) Chaos A.D 4/5 ( a kinda weird album but still great) Schizophrenia 3.5/5 redone by cavalera 4/5 (this would be just a r good album, but the redone version from 2024 fucking slaps) Dante XXI 3.5/5 (pretty good album, REALLLLLY underrated) I haven't heard to a lot of rheir stuff but I think that for now this list will do it, definately looking forward to hear more from this amazing band 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@@themetalmeltdownofficial thanks for the reply I really enjoy the videos I’ve watched of yours so far especially these ranked videos the slayer video you did I couldn’t believe how much I agreed with you on that almost identical list as mine others on YT had show no mercy was their 1# which makes no sense lol
I agree mostly with your takes here, after nation I fell of the bandwagon abit with the Derrick green era, albums like roorback etc seemed abit unambitious, the songwriting seemed weak and like there wasn't a whole lot of effort put in, there were some cool riffs here and there but they didn't go anywhere really or progress enough, it just didn't strike anything with me, they weren't horrible but abit meh, then after a absolute age of not listening to them I decided to check out machine messiah and was absolutely blown away by how good that was, I understood people gravitating more towards the max era but that album I had to question wheather it was actually better than afew of those albums, Arise and Beneath the remains are still undoubtedly the classics for me with chaos Ad from that Era but I feel the latest couple are stronger than albums like Morbid visions and even roots for me.. roots I have alot of nostalgia for, it got me away from nu metal and more into the thrash simply by checking sepulturas back catalogue but man, other than ratamahatta, cut throat and the title track it doesn't hit me like it used too, it's impressive the turnaround they have made so late into there career for sure
I think most people who say that haven't given the last three Sepultura albums a chance, especially "Quadra". The first three songs on that album are excellent.
Usually I agree with you dismissing EPs, demos and live albums, but I think in this very case their debut EP "Bestial devastation" deserves to be talked about. I wouldn´t call it influential or massively important because noone barely even talks about this EP, but it definitely should get more recognition. I mean this thing was released in 1985 and is way too extreme for being considered only thrash. I´d even argue that this is more death metal than Scream bloody gore and arguably the very first pure death metal release. You could also consider it black metal, but for me it definitely leans more towards the death metal side. Also it was better than Morbid visions in every way.
I am 41 years of age. I've been into metal for quite some time. In my junior high, and high school years, you could literally grab anything with the Road Racer / Road Runner logo on it and it would be a certified banger. 100%! CERTIFIED! BANGER! I remember the day it all went to shit....it was the day Road Runner released the debut Slipknot album. That entire label leaned HARD into commercialism from that point forward. Now....who really gives a fuck about Road Runner?
Imo, the Green era isn’t Sepultura, so I’ll rank the true Sep albums: 1: Chaos A.D. 2: Beneath The Remains 3: Arise 4: Scizophrenia 5: Morbid Visions 6: Roots
The first four Sepultura records are among my most favorite albums ever. The progression between all of them is truly amazing, but everything goes downhill after Arise. I didn't mind their 90s output during the 90s, but it didn't hold up over time. Honestly the last album I heard from them was Nation, which was not too good. I get it though, like a lot of 80s bands they had to progress further to stay relevant, but it just never appealed to my tastes.
I saw them in Oz fest when it first began 20 years ago and I have studied all their albums this is interesting thank you again before that I just that's just the first time I saw them they are badass I should stop commenting
Arise is definitely my number #1, followed closely by Beneath the Remains. Machine Messiah is an excellent recent album. Roots is so overrated and easily a huge step down from everything that came before it and a handful of the later stuff also IMO. Great video as always!! 🤘
●1°CHAOS ●2° QUADRA 3°DANTE ● 4° KAIROS ●5°ARISE ●6° BENEATH ●7° AGAINST ● 8°MACHINE ●9°MEDIATOR ●10°ROORBACK ●11°REVOLUSONG ●12° NATION ●13°ROOTS ● 14°SCHIZOFRENIA ●15 A-LEX THE ALBUMS THAT WERE LEFT OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY BAD. THE LIST WAS MADE FOR SOUND AND NOT FOR IMPORTANCE.
i perfer max cavalera era sepultura bestial devastation 1985 morbid visions 1986 schizophrenia 1987 beneath the remains 1989 arise 1991 chaos ad 1993 roots 1996 which is what i grew up with hate derrick green era sepultura
Schizophrenia and Arise for me . Beneath the Remains kind of seemed like a stepping stone to Arise that just lacks the power of Arise. Beneath the Remains just shows the band attempting to be a more extreme Metal rendition of Metallica
Great Reviews agree on a lot of things.. ignored the derek green era for a long time... as i did with most metal beeing full hardcore for decades. But as i started rediscovering metal quadra fucking hit me so hard that i had to get the complete discography only owning beneath til roots before. Roots is their worst for me... didnt really like it when it came out, it was very disapointing for me... Btw... its Dante 21 (each X stand for 10 plus I 😉) I know americans often struggle with those.
My rank would be this: 15 - Morbid Visions 14 - A-Lex 13 - Roots 12 - Against 11 - Kairos 10 - Dante XXI 9 - Nation 8 - Roorback 7 - Mediator 6 - Arise 5 - Machine Messiah 4 - Beneath The Remains 3 - Schizophrenia 2 - Quadra 1 - Chaos AD And for instance, I only consider not that good A-Lex and Morbid Visions. Everything else is from pretty good to fucking amazing
some of those middle albums were terrible imo. Against Roorback, and Nation just terrible imo. I could barely put any of the songs on rotation at all. every other album is essentialy 4-5/5 man. great stuff all around
@@themetalmeltdownofficial some of your opinions are literally unbelievable. Like someone who actually is not a metal fan at all but trolling the metal community
For me, Chaos A.D. is a quintessential metal album for the 90s (along with Vulgar, Demanufacture & Burn My Eyes) as so many bands can have their influences traced back to that album. Plus the lyrics leaning into real-life stories tackling heavy subject matter (Kaiowas, Territory, Manifest etc) was a MASSIVE step up from stuff like Morbid Visions (I find that album cute more than anything)
Have to agree and those along with two biohazard records is what I grew up on!
I love Chaos A.D. That was my introduction to Sepultura.
Beneath the Remains 5/5 for me. Still one of my all time favorite albums.
That may be my actual top Thrash album ever
@Koraxus very close with Arise but ultimately BTR has more of my favs
I may be biased… but I think A-Lex is kinda top tier. Super chaotic and almost progressive/experimental at times. Almost a raw more industrial thrashy Meshuggah album at times. And yeah Quadra is my favorite album by them actually lol
A-lex is really good i think! Also it’s based on A Clockwork Orange!
both a-lex and the mediator are majorly underrated.
A-Lex sucked lol literally puts you to sleep. What this list gets wrong is Kairos which was a great album
Beneath The Remains FTW! favorite Sepultura album
I might be the black sheep of the family but I actually like the Derrick Green era especially starting from the Dante XXI álbum. Their latest álbum Quadra......is a real killer too.
Derrick is great and he kills live
I agree. I actually think Dante is an underrated masterpiece
I’m with you dude
Thank you for not crapping all over the Derrick Green stuff. I think he’s great. Also, I always thought I was weird for not liking Roots very much. Other than Ratamahatta and Roots Bloody Roots I think it’s really boring. My favorite albums are Arise and Schizophrenia but Quadra is up there too 🤘🤘
Love these discography ranking videos. It gives us viewers a chance to see how the reviewers feel about the older albums of a band. I loved Anthony Fantano’s Worst To Best series as well as his tier lists, but since he doesn’t really do them anymore and I mostly listen to rock and metal, these videos are fun to watch. Would love to eventually see one of these done for bands like Morbid Angel and Voivod.
Upvote for Voivod! Another unique band with a diverse catalog and uniquely personal aesthetic. Those are always the bands that matter.
I never made it through Roots… It was just a confused mess in my ears. Up until Chaos A.D. I really dig!
I hear ya. I try to listen to Roots but I end up stopping after the fourth track.
Try giving "Quadra" and a "Messiah Machine" a chance, both are very good.
Agree Roots is far too long. Way too much filler.
Honestly impressive that the band is still here, even after losing their entire original lineup.
I sometimes think they should change their name but also think it's kinda cool that they didn't
Paulo is there since the first album
I really hope Cavalera Conspiracy does a Chaos A.D tour like they did with Roots, Arise, and Beneath The Remains.
Apparently the Cavaleras left the band to become a cover band of themselves. Such a shame... Max's ego fucked everyting up
It is funny how much hate the Green era used to get but really Machine Messiah did turn heads, even mine and I had tried to like their records post Max back then. Loved this video thank you, just tested positive for covid this morning and this was a wonderful video to enjoy while feeling cruddy.
Sorry to hear that bud. Get lots of rest, hope you feel better soon!
Yeah when dante xxi was released the green Era started to get good, machine was when it started to get better
Huh. Over the years, I've heard so many other reviewers constantly and relentlessly shit on Against, I was genuinely surprised by your take on it. Glad that there are others out there appreciating it.
Excellent job, as always. I'm saluting you with my next beer!
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So now Soulfly list is needed!
honestly one of the greatest rankings ive ever seen right here, not only can i not really disagree with any take you put out here but you also hit a lot of points that i would also point out about these albums. personally I'm a fan of roorback but thats nitpicking.
what a freaking great discography this is, one of the most interesting in all of metal, no doubt about that.
Great video Robert. Really difficult discography to appraise and evaluate because of the range and diversity. I honestly love all those records for different reasons. Truly one of the most groundbreaking and unique catalogs in all metal. Love Sepultura since I was a kid, and still do.
Igor Cavalera is one of the greatest metal drummers of all time. Never mentioned anywhere, which is a shame. Recently, I saw an interview with Bruno Valverde, who replaced Eloy in some US shows after he broke his leg. Bruno, a highly studied musician, had to learn Igor’s drumwork for the set, and he was astonished at Igor’s creativity. Igor had no formal training, just a crazy sharp artistic intuition. Today he gets crap for not having Eloy’s stamina (who the heck does anyway?) but he’s a true innovator and is still releasing really cool, leftfield music.
If you dig Sepultura’s late 90s and early 2000s experiments, look up the EPs and b-sides from that period. They’ve covered so much sonic ground, have explored so many shades of extreme music over the years. One of the most forward thinking and open minded bands, and forgers of a unique aesthetic.
I think it’s incredible that so late into their career they’re making some of their all time best records. Massively inspiring, top tier material
I was going to suggest a rundown of Sepultura on one of your other videos but did a quick search and sure enough you already did. So, thanks for doing this one. I really love these vids.
This sounds crazy but I think Morbid Visions might be my favorite. They question whether Seven Churches or Scream Bloody Gore was the first death metal album but I think Morbid Visions belongs in the discussion.
I understand how people would like that album for the rawness but man the production kills it for me and the guitar tone, max vocals also could do with being dialled back just a touch, also I felt alot of the songs just blend in together and don't separate themselves enough except for troops of doom, I understand it though, it isn't terrible and has got its own vibe going on which adds cool points
@@nemesis8626 Yes I know the production is not good at all but it’s just more my kind of metal. However I really like the next 3 albums too.
Did you check out the new Troops of Doom record? Go get it if you love Morbid Visions, it’s a banger.
Great analysis brother 🤘🏻 🤘🏻 🤘🏻
This is one of the greatest bands of all time. They invented Cannibal Corpse, Slipknot, and Korn a decade before some of them even existed. Without Sepultura, us demons would not have theme songs for converting people to the satanic new world order. Without Sepultura, metal would cease to exist and the world would cease to exist.
I agree wholeheartedly with your first sentence. Sepultura doesn’t get enough love.
Korn? Not really
Great reviews! When I first hear "The Mediator...." I was put on my ass! I will take Arise as my favorite up until then but this album fits greatly more with where my taste in metal is and it was quickly my new favorite Sepultura album.
Then Machine Messiah came out!
Then Quadra!! "Agony Of Defeat" is easily one of my favorite metal tracks. period. That song is a goddamn masterpiece to me and Derrick's voice is great! It's a shame that so many people won't even listen to it, they could easily be the biggest metal band in the world (but, i think they also need to perform with a second guitar, that is holding them back a lot)
Love the video man, thanks. I love Kairos and it is what made me go back and check the Derrick stuff, after max. But I do understand where you are coming from with your view in the records. much love and respect man
I like the Derrick Green era since Kairos and afterwards. Was hard to find the previous DG albums. Unlike other frontmen, he didn't change the identity of the band too far compared to other bands. I will say that Kairos did have a lot of repetition compared to the later albums I listened to.
I like that pendent
It's a triple upside down cross. The question is "Will you like the band it represents?" That band is the mighty Behemoth.
I am not a huge Sepultura fan (I think Bestial Devastation EP is their best work, which isn't a take I would expect of me),but the way people write off Dereck Green era just because it has no Max is just really disheartening. The guy has been with the band more than Max was in the bans at this point,yet people still don't want to give him a shot, it's frustrating
I think people are generally more open minded now to the Derrick Green stuff, thanks to Machine Messiah and Quadra, but there's unfortunately ALWAYS going to be a small group of people that thinks Sepultura died when Max left. Fuck 'em, let 'em live in the past.
Great work on this man!
Came to this video after stumbling upon Arise last night. Can't believe i haven't listened to this band or really even given them a chance. Fucking amazing.
Almost a month ago. This was a band I wanted to dig into but due to all the drama on good and bad stuff I ran away. But now this helps a lot.
Oh lordy. this is one series of reviews thatd start a war between my friends. a lot of em love Max Cavalera era Sepultura. i might be the black sheep to say i enjoyed some of Derrick Green era sepultura. Especially Quadra. i loved that album. But yeah it's great to see you tackle every sepultura album. Will you tackle Overkill in the future? theyve released at least 20 albums over 40 years
Probably not lmao, I like Overkill but most of their albums are sooooo similar I would eventually run out of things to say.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial so true!
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Fair enough. theyre not for everyone. But yeah man. i loved this yo. made me go back and relisten to Machine Messiah and it did kick some ass
ROOOOOOOTS BLOOOOOODY ROOOOOTS
All these decades later and that still never gets old
I've been saying Sepultura has one of the best discographies of any band out there, metal or whatever. They've developed into so much more than what they started as and didn't sell out. It would be perfect if not for "Against".
“so I can justify that score”..Dude, love your work man, but having the last two albums outscore Beneath the Remains is (aside from being objectively wrong -wink) just plain ahistorical IM(not so?)HO. Listening to you talk, and realising when you first started to get into Sepulttura, you can’t possibly comprehend how groundbreaking and earth shattering Beneath the Remains was when it came out. I was 14 when I found BTR on cassette in one of New Zealand’s only specialist metal stores and man that thing barely left my Walkman (err, cheap knockoff thereof…)That album fucking split the sky, man. Not just for me, but for an entire generation of metal heads. It sounded so perfectly produced, so technical with its stop-and-change-on-a-pinhead riffs and rhythms, and so brutal. Even lyrically, it was punky, enraged, apocalyptic. It’s my favourite of theirs by a long way and it still to this day occupies a spot in my rotation. Stone cold masterpiece.
Loved the review though man, glad to hear your takes and looking forward to giving Machine Messiah another spin some day soon.
Chaos A.D and Roots have always been my favorite, because of how the Brazilian music blended with metal in unexpected ways, but they are excellent before and good after that point too. I definitely need to listen to their newest stuff because I haven't listened past the Mediator. They are a band that is also not annoying when they get political, which is tricky to pull off.
Nice review. For me the top 5 albums are:
Chaos AD
Roots
Quadra
Arise
Machine Messiah
Max left. The band started making money and wanted to fire Gloria. While on tour for this album, Glo's son Dana was killed, and, Andreas's wife tried to have a funeral and have him buried while the band was out to make sure the tour wouldn't stop. The band wanted to not only fire Glo, but fire multiple band techs and roadies who had been with them for over a decade. That is why Max walked away.
This is what happened indeed!
You didn't mention it, Do you know that "A-Lex" is a concept album based on A Clockwork Orange? You described it really well but I wonder if you missed the part that its a concept then the whole thing makes way more sense! It has really grown on me and become one of my favorites from them.
As a huge a clockwork nerd I used to love this chaotic record. Lyrics are pretty good imo.
I never got into Derrick Green era Sepultura, but I love everything from Schizophrenia onwards through Roots. As for Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation, I'm not a black metal fan so I can't really get into those albums. I have to be in the right kind of mood to listen to Roots.
I’m a black metal fan and can’t get into morbid visions lol
Yes great discography review! I haven't heard all of them but I very much agree with you on all of them. (Also yes, I love Quadra!! It was between it and Weapons of Tomorrow from Warbringer as my favorite metal album of 2020.)
I was there at Max’s last show Brixton academy Dec 96,
i think carlinhos brown wrote music too for Rio. love that movie!
XXI is 21, not 11
Also, A-Lex is based on the movie A Clockwork Orange, it has nothing to do with Dante
I laughed when he said Dante 11 🤣
Interesting ranking,I agree with quite a bit of what you say,though I'd argue that Beneath The Remains slightly beats out Arise,though I am biased cos that's my personal favourite Seps album.The Green era took a while to warm up I think,but from Dante onwards I've enjoyed all their stuff to varying degrees.I actually think that Quadra is one of the best albums they've ever released.Also the concept of A -lex is based on A Clockwork Orange! Keep these rankings going though fella,I always enjoy listening to your opinions.
As a old school Thrasher, I 1st heard Sepultura round '89 (BTR?) & thought they were the future. Then when released their next album it all sounded the same, but then again, so did everybody-either too soft or just a million miles an hr. That's when I said goodbye 2 the new-wave of Thrash!
I'm all good with Ignor Calavera leaving the band cuz now we have Absent in Body. Oh boy after that album i definitely want more
Very good review.
been a huge fan of early sepultura since october 3rd 2000 so since i was a baby because of my dad arise was my first ever metal album because of my dad i used to have night terrors when i was baby so my dad would play arise for me in his old car in canada when i was a baby and my first word was tura as in sepultura still listening to max cavalera era sepultura 22 years later at 21 years old as a young adult male metalhead and long time heavy metal and extreme metal fan in general i have beneath the reamins schizophrenia morbid visions / bestial devastation and the best of sepultura on cd so a band that has had a massive impact on me musically and emotionally growing up .
Alex and Dante are great albums, the stuff after never caught my interest though...or I didn't even know they came out lol. Roots always put me to sleep. Can't imagine anyone listen to the whole album in one sitting. Rarely got over Ratamahatta
Schizo/Beneath/Arise/Morbid/Chaos.
A great video buddy
I really like your review because you clearly have your very personal opinion on every album and you don´t take too much into consideration what other channels or critics say.
It doesn´t mean i share the same taste but it makes your review very refreshing.
As far as i´m concerned, Beneath the Remains, Chaos AD, Arise and Machine Messiah are up there with 4,5/5. Quadra does not click for me for whatever reasons.
A-Lex, Kairos and The Mediator [...] are unlistenable for me.
Ranking according to me...
PERFECT:
1 - Quadra
2 - A-Lex
3 - Chaos A.D.
GREAT:
4 - Against
5 - Arise
6 - Machine Messiah
GOOD:
7 - Beneath The Remains
8 - Morbid Visions
9 - Roots
OK:
10 - Roorback
11 - Dante XXI
12 - The Mediator Between The...
SUBPAR:
13 - Nation
14 - Schizophrenia
15 - Kairos
I must be the only one, but my personal favorite album is actually ROORBACK. Of course it was my first album, but I do think it's a bit underrated. And my least favorite it's definitely KAIROS, I only like one song and I don´t remember the name, I only know it's track 13
I saw the Chaos A.D tour in Sr. Pete Florida.
i gotta get my hands on this roots album
I love roots but it just feels so incredibly long and a little draining hoping to listen to it more my favorite still Chaos A.D!
My list (only including the albums I've heard)
Arise 5/5 (a perfect thrash album, my 2nd all-time favourite album)
BTR 4.5/5 (aside from a song or two, a perfect album)
Quadra 4.5/5 (just like beneath, a perfect album aside for a few songs)
Roots 4/5 ( one of their most important records)
Machine messiah 4/5 (I prefer Quadra but this album is still really great)
Chaos A.D 4/5 ( a kinda weird album but still great)
Schizophrenia 3.5/5 redone by cavalera 4/5 (this would be just a r good album, but the redone version from 2024 fucking slaps)
Dante XXI 3.5/5 (pretty good album, REALLLLLY underrated)
I haven't heard to a lot of rheir stuff but I think that for now this list will do it, definately looking forward to hear more from this amazing band 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Met Eloy Casagrande once! Such a nice guy
1 Arise
2 Choas AD
3 Beneath
4 Roots
5 Quadra
I still think "Arise" is what you do get when you order "Beneath the Remains" on wish...
I would love a Kreator rankled that would be killer
Someday for sure, love Kreator
@@themetalmeltdownofficial thanks for the reply I really enjoy the videos I’ve watched of yours so far especially these ranked videos the slayer video you did I couldn’t believe how much I agreed with you on that almost identical list as mine others on YT had show no mercy was their 1# which makes no sense lol
I agree mostly with your takes here, after nation I fell of the bandwagon abit with the Derrick green era, albums like roorback etc seemed abit unambitious, the songwriting seemed weak and like there wasn't a whole lot of effort put in, there were some cool riffs here and there but they didn't go anywhere really or progress enough, it just didn't strike anything with me, they weren't horrible but abit meh, then after a absolute age of not listening to them I decided to check out machine messiah and was absolutely blown away by how good that was, I understood people gravitating more towards the max era but that album I had to question wheather it was actually better than afew of those albums, Arise and Beneath the remains are still undoubtedly the classics for me with chaos Ad from that Era but I feel the latest couple are stronger than albums like Morbid visions and even roots for me.. roots I have alot of nostalgia for, it got me away from nu metal and more into the thrash simply by checking sepulturas back catalogue but man, other than ratamahatta, cut throat and the title track it doesn't hit me like it used too, it's impressive the turnaround they have made so late into there career for sure
I like Sepultura's version of Bullet The Blue Sky actually
Sorry but IMO, after Chas AD, Sepultura has became uninteresting...but i agree your rating even if i think Beneath the Remains deserve 4.5/5.
I think most people who say that haven't given the last three Sepultura albums a chance, especially "Quadra". The first three songs on that album are excellent.
Usually I agree with you dismissing EPs, demos and live albums, but I think in this very case their debut EP "Bestial devastation" deserves to be talked about. I wouldn´t call it influential or massively important because noone barely even talks about this EP, but it definitely should get more recognition. I mean this thing was released in 1985 and is way too extreme for being considered only thrash. I´d even argue that this is more death metal than Scream bloody gore and arguably the very first pure death metal release. You could also consider it black metal, but for me it definitely leans more towards the death metal side. Also it was better than Morbid visions in every way.
I love Sepultura! My favorites have to be Beneath the Remains, and Arise. I really do love a lot of their stuff, but they do have some bad albums
I wish they would reunite and re-record first 3 albums I love schizophrenia better than beneath but sounds not good
Agree about the re-record part
@@albertgein3082 I’m not sure about re-recordings. Gorgoroth re-recording Under the Sign of Hell still gives me nightmares.
@@jmalinjapan7786 the in flames clayman re recording.......
I am 41 years of age. I've been into metal for quite some time. In my junior high, and high school years, you could literally grab anything with the Road Racer / Road Runner logo on it and it would be a certified banger. 100%! CERTIFIED! BANGER! I remember the day it all went to shit....it was the day Road Runner released the debut Slipknot album. That entire label leaned HARD into commercialism from that point forward. Now....who really gives a fuck about Road Runner?
I would love ranking all Nothingface albums. They are a forgotten band.
Imo, the Green era isn’t Sepultura, so I’ll rank the true Sep albums:
1: Chaos A.D.
2: Beneath The Remains
3: Arise
4: Scizophrenia
5: Morbid Visions
6: Roots
Damn wonder if u reviewed Melem - Mélancolie Obsessionnelle that would be interesting.
The first four Sepultura records are among my most favorite albums ever. The progression between all of them is truly amazing, but everything goes downhill after Arise. I didn't mind their 90s output during the 90s, but it didn't hold up over time. Honestly the last album I heard from them was Nation, which was not too good. I get it though, like a lot of 80s bands they had to progress further to stay relevant, but it just never appealed to my tastes.
They got back in shape in Machine Messiah
Roots # 1
Arise # 2
Morbid visions # 3
For me
Arise #1. That'll be all.
"territory" in 2022 during current wars is still shamelessly relevant
"Mass Hypnosis"? I think you mean "MASS HIPPIE NOSES"
I'm sure it's been said, but it's Dante 21
I saw them in Oz fest when it first began 20 years ago and I have studied all their albums this is interesting thank you again before that I just that's just the first time I saw them they are badass I should stop commenting
"...fucking record." - the metal meltdown, speaking about Arise (2022)
It is indeed a fucking record.
Arise is definitely my number #1, followed closely by Beneath the Remains.
Machine Messiah is an excellent recent album.
Roots is so overrated and easily a huge step down from everything that came before it and a handful of the later stuff also IMO.
Great video as always!! 🤘
max was never fired. he left.
INQUISITION Symphony and Dante 21! TWENTY-ONE, for fucks' sakes! Aqui é Brasil, porra!
Someday you should review every sodom album
●1°CHAOS ●2° QUADRA 3°DANTE ● 4° KAIROS ●5°ARISE ●6° BENEATH ●7° AGAINST ● 8°MACHINE ●9°MEDIATOR ●10°ROORBACK ●11°REVOLUSONG ●12° NATION ●13°ROOTS ● 14°SCHIZOFRENIA ●15 A-LEX
THE ALBUMS THAT WERE LEFT OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY BAD.
THE LIST WAS MADE FOR SOUND AND NOT FOR IMPORTANCE.
moorbiid... visioooons!
Andreas Kisser is my dad!
Hell yeee good band and good ass review, now get some sleep bro on god
Controversial opinion...I like Against better than Roots
After arise, sepultura went down the crapper..
Ok now do Boris.
oh god no, I'd be recording for so long I'd have to call in sick or some shit lmao
@@themetalmeltdownofficial 🤣
@@themetalmeltdownofficial 💀💀💀
i perfer max cavalera era sepultura bestial devastation 1985 morbid visions 1986 schizophrenia 1987 beneath the remains 1989 arise 1991 chaos ad 1993 roots 1996 which is what i grew up with hate derrick green era sepultura
XXI means 21, dude
"YALL"
Do you have a point to this oorrrr....?
Schizophrenia and Arise for me . Beneath the Remains kind of seemed like a stepping stone to Arise that just lacks the power of Arise. Beneath the Remains just shows the band attempting to be a more extreme Metal rendition of Metallica
3.5 on Chaos AD not where I see it, more like 4.5. And I’d rate Roots lower.
In 39 minutes dang
Max was not fired, he ABANDONED the band...
Great Reviews agree on a lot of things.. ignored the derek green era for a long time... as i did with most metal beeing full hardcore for decades. But as i started rediscovering metal quadra fucking hit me so hard that i had to get the complete discography only owning beneath til roots before. Roots is their worst for me... didnt really like it when it came out, it was very disapointing for me...
Btw... its Dante 21 (each X stand for 10 plus I 😉) I know americans often struggle with those.
Whoops lmao
@@themetalmeltdownofficial 🤣👍
early soulfly is better than derrick green era sepultura
Nation alone beats anything soulfly done
My rank would be this:
15 - Morbid Visions
14 - A-Lex
13 - Roots
12 - Against
11 - Kairos
10 - Dante XXI
9 - Nation
8 - Roorback
7 - Mediator
6 - Arise
5 - Machine Messiah
4 - Beneath The Remains
3 - Schizophrenia
2 - Quadra
1 - Chaos AD
And for instance, I only consider not that good A-Lex and Morbid Visions. Everything else is from pretty good to fucking amazing
some of those middle albums were terrible imo. Against Roorback, and Nation just terrible imo. I could barely put any of the songs on rotation at all. every other album is essentialy 4-5/5 man. great stuff all around
Everyone else on this planet: Nation is by far the worst Sepultura record ever.
TMM: 3,5/5
Kairos is probably the best Derrick Sepultura album lol this guy gets it completely wrong again
Oh no, an opinion different from your own, the horror 🙄
@@themetalmeltdownofficial some of your opinions are literally unbelievable. Like someone who actually is not a metal fan at all but trolling the metal community
@@dedkat7 or, and just hear me out here, I know this sounds crazy: maybe they're real and we simply disagree? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤔🤔🤔
@@themetalmeltdownofficial hmm...