Ford Mondeo Mk3 ST220 Moosing Noise From Engine Bay Fix 3.0 Litre V6
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2020
- My Mondeo 2004 Mk3 3.0 litre V6 is making the "Moosing" noise from the engine bay. There is a lot of conflicting information on the cause so let's get to the bottom of it in this video.
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While working at a dealer, replaced dozens of IAC valves on the old 2.5L V6 for the same reason. I always called it the fog horn.
Hmm never heard that noise in car before just when I was out hunting or sitting on the couch. Great diagnosis and fix. Thanks for sharing.
That is a lovely looking car m8. I had the same intermittent Mooosing sound on my 1998 V6 Cougar a few years back.
I think various factors cause this.... my Idle Valve is fine, even checked the resistance of it with a multimeter and it was well within the values.
I found the inlet hose to the valve was split..... I replaced it with a simple piece of coolant hose of similar diameter and it has not Moooosed since.
My fix probably won't work for everyone but it's worth checking.
Great video, thank you.
As always Martin, top marks for showing what was required and not what others think. Very informative and carry on sir , loving your content
Glad you enjoyed it
I know this is a year ago but Martin is definitely a top guy even though he gets a lot of stick and I think that is out of order. Thank you for everything you do Martin.
It’s the Mondeo mating call, happens all through summer. Had loads of 220s, always moosed and nearly always been the AIC valve, only other thing that caused it was a load of split vac pipes. Nice to see this on the channel
Thanks for the info
Nice fix, thanks for doing a video on that, itll help the community - obviously a Ford V6 issue👍🤕👍😉✌️💜
Can't understand why people on the forums made such a big deal of this. It is well dcumented failure on Ford's. Inside the valve there is a set of plastic bellows. They cracking over time allowing engine vaccuum to force the IAC open (this pulls up the RPM). When this happens, the ECU commands the solenoid to close the valve to achieve target idle speed. This rapid opening and closing is what causes the noise. If you look at the IAC duty cycle on a scan tool, you will notice it is way too high (perhaps around its maximum 60% in the case of Fords). You should clamp the old one in a vice and pull it apart with some pliers of overindulgence. You will see the failure internally.
I'm in love with my Mondeo MK3 2002 here, i will not give up on it for nothing , honestly not even for an Lambo. :P idk what others say, its my personal opinion, i love this mondeo. :)
You solved the moose mystery, Martin!
Thank you Martin I always enjoy watching your videos I am happy you never spend too much money to fix your car I am from South Africa
Had exactly the same issue on my 2005 ST220, this was married with rough tick over as well. Ended up replacing the ICV and the MAF sensor, all is good now.
Great video I’m currently watching this with a broken leg 120kg fell off the forklift on to me! 😕
poor bugger! get well soon mate!
Oh no, hope it heals soon.
retrorestore thank you! 👍
loopy Head cheers mate!
When Gary isn't looking, put the old one on his 😂 transfer the moosing 😂
Brilliant video Martin giving the best info to ACTUALLY sort the problem it's exactly what's needed to get rid and won't have to think about again keep up the videos you are a pro at explaining the details and it s a delight to watch you you are an entertaining guy and you keep it interesting mate
Thank you so much 😁
I've got the 3.0l ghia x version, remapped to an alleged 268 bhp, de catted and de boxed exhaust.( i don't actually believe it is 268bhp, but it is very quick. lol) couldn't find a good st 220 in my area, so i jumped on this when it came up with only 80k on it. I haven't regretted it! anyway, I've had it under FORScan and my air idle valve is showing under test working at 64%. every now and then i hear a low moosing sound, thanks to your video I now know the two are connected. Awesome and ty!
A nice simple fix bud.
Always best to do your own checks. Forms are good but I don't ever believe what people say. Good job Martin early fix🤞🤞
Thank you for making this video of you driving around in your community. It is great to see a different part of the world. You have purchased a great looking car and I am happy that you was able to quickly fix the Moosing problem. P.S. Blue is my favorite color. 😁
Glad you enjoyed it!
love to see the strip down on the old one .by the way its 3 litre and if you distract gary with that much ale and 10 lawnmowers you can swap all the the bits off his car he will never know lol stay safe all of you
The other day i was driving my ST220 V6 at about 40mph when a horrible moaning noise started, I thought a wheel bearing had gone. I slowed down very quickly, thinking GOD ive bought a LEMON of a 3.0Lt V6 ST220. I gently pulled away again and the noise was gone? Whats going on??? It can't be a wheel bearing.
Then I saw your video :)
Thank you for finding the cause of the moosing noise.
Im VERY releaved its an easy fix. I will be getting an Idle air control valve soon.
Thanks Dave,
Love the channel mate. I used to have an ST220 back in 2012 and as a 21 year old then it was my dream car. Absolutely loved it! Unfortunately I got carjacked and the car was recovered damaged. Couldn't bring myself to fix it so sold it to a friend to fix. Such a shame. Oh well! Lovely car either way.
Thanks Michael👍
get gary a few beers martin get him drunk swap the wheels lollol
If martin doesn't....I will!! lol
Mine are getting painted this weekend.
@@retrorestore happy days martin i think that wheel design on the st220 is the best ford have ever used there a real nice wheel
@@retrorestore I might be able to get you some centre caps. Just waiting to get confirmation that they are available and price!!
Great fix Martin 👍👍👍👍
Well done, Martin!!!!! Thx for sharing!!!!! Stay healthy!!!! Greetings from germany 👍👍👍👍👍
The anti moose pipe is the proper fix. FYI, my car was one of the first in the UK to suffer from this, the dealer had no clue and Ford technical got involved. They came up with a resonator pipe to fix the issue on the 2.5 V6. It fixed the problem in cold weather but it would come back when hot! Replacing the IACV will fix it for a while but it will come back, trust me!
Excellent 👍 for putting a video out there, Iam sure loads of people will appreciate it.
How’s Gary’s st220, does that also make the noise?
It's good mark, no noise from Gary's
Great Martin that's it fixed. Great when things go right. I can't wait for more on mondeo. Looks like your wheel alignment may need done looks like your stearing off a bit to the right.
Yes it does
@@retrorestore thought so bud. Fords are bad for tracking always being out. I've been driving my focus with same and it hasn't worn my tyres.
A nice easy fix once you got the right part. If only everything was that easy...
Makes a change Dave lol
Nice one pal.. nice little fix there you done keep it up..I I enjoy watching all your videos.
Thanks 👍
Great fix of an annoying noise Martin but every time for a while you will still be listening for it to come back if you're anything like me on noises from a car lol Rob
Haha, yes I am Rob lol
Well I would call that a success, my ST was a the TDCI which had the usual egr valve fail but I got mine from a Jag dealer and it was half the price of the ford one, a lot of the parts on the ST are interchangeable with certain Jag models. Hope your moosing is a thing of the past Martin 👍
Thanks for sharing
thanks man, I have the same problem a i wasn't able to figure out what it is. Great job
thanks bud.
Good fix a lot of conflicting info on the net about all things. Bert Jr is growing up Martin
Glad your moosing has stopped. Look forward to the next video.
Hi Martin,what a great fix,no moosing sound the original part was probably no good.
Thanks 👍
Iac valve problems are common from the mk4 fiesta and focus and mondeo models of that era for some reason. Unlike the v6 though they don't have the moose noise just erratic idle rpm when stationary. I've never heard of moosing but it's good to know now!
Nice. Many thanks. Im just going to try it, because i have the same problem. Thanks for video
Glad it helped
Glad you got it sorted Martin.
Take care, Jeff
Nice easy one for a change Jeff lol
great vid, thanks again..love to see you trying to break open the failed control valve to see inside it..mind and nick those centre caps from Gary's car 😀
Nice fix, I changed a similar part on a focus once, trouble was the pattern part only lasted a couple of moths before giving up and causing more problems! Atleast you know it works and what has caused it.
Hey Martin your looking well love the old st Mondeo
Thanks bud.
You solved that mystery in a hurry, Martin ! 👍
Makes a change for it to go right lol
Tip if you've got oil in your rear crankcase breather hose. Its the pcv valve that sits smack bang in the middle of the v banks. This part has to be replaced every 30 thou mile.
Don't ring Ford cause they wont have it. I had to get mine from the USA. Cheap part but essential on these cars to change.
Hiya mate, where did you order yours from?
@@ChazzCoombes hi chazz. I managed to get mine from a friend of mine who was going to New York to see his family. Cost me £5. But to buy on ebay with shipping its about £25
The part you need is Motorcraft EV-243
@@bunabuna9287 cheers my friend. I will see if i can find it
@@ChazzCoombes www.stdrivers.co.uk/forum/topic/40785-oil-consumption-pcv-valve-oil-separator-or-simply-overfilling/
That's where I found out about it mate.
Nice simply fix Martin you must be well chuffed, that noise would drive me insane! 👍🏻
Yes it was a pain
No moose is good news Martin. Sorry about that, i'll get me coat.
Haha, nice one lol
Ha
the moose has departed,nice one martin,for 45 notes its worth it ,must have been right annoying ,all the best.........................dougie
Yes, a nice simple fix for once Doug lol
It would be interesting to see if the problem occurs if your old idle control valve was tried on Gary’s st220?
🤣🤣🤣i bloody knew you would fix it Martin 👌
Well, just one week after watching this video and now my ST has started Moosing in sympathy. IAC valve ordered, should be fixed by Tuesday. 👍
Haha, nice one. Should be sorted soon.
Good result Martin nice little easy job
Thanks 👍
Good fix Martin
Thanks Dave.
Lovely clean car! My mate has the same car, his makes a funny sound like a police siren on throttle off about 3000rpm. If I find it I’ll let you know 😁
I was kinda hoping this would be a ten part series, but well done anyway :)
Sometimes wear and tear in more than one component in a system can work in tandem to cause odd problems. Any of those components, on their own, will be "within tolerance" but the system as a whole can be affected if there is wear across the components as a whole. Which is why, sometimes, just replacing any one component out of two or three can "cure" the issue, and is why different people can claim different things have fixed it for them.
Not sure if that makes sense, I can't really explain it better right now.
P.S. "liter" is the US English spelling.
Can you do a video on how the cure a low moaning sound from my wife when I spend time in the shed,,,,
That one needs Goosing, not Moosing lol
Thats done it martin lets hope it dont come back
Hope so Roy.
Nice fix, I’m looking forward to the refurbished alloys, I remember when you done jimmy’s Astra alloys, looked amazing, I personally like the blue and white, that blue is stunning though
Thanks 👍
I really enjoy watching your videos keep them coming 😀
Glad you like them!
Well done that man! Yours is a beutifull colour, they are really nice car real value for the money at the moment and will be a collectors car in a few years. For some reason the focus are already shooting up in price
Yes, I agree Pete.
Please please please do one on the catalytic converters, how to replace/ where to buy etc etc. Also maybe how to get one running again (all the checks you need to do) after a period of time 2-5 years no use.
ive been looking at getting one of these after seing your fist video on it,little hidden gems these for the prices they are sold at.
Yes, now's the time, they'll go up in value these will.
That's a fantastic looking car in a fabulous colour.
Would love to have in in a collection !
I wonder how much from the X-Type's 3.0 V6 you could swap over as the block is the same and the X-Type had another 20bhp
Good question!
Well done great fix and solving the problem excellent work and thanks for the content stay safe and take care
Thanks 👍
retrorestore no problem friend
Very quiet engine.
great video loved it
Glad you enjoyed it
Lucky u nice easy fix nice one.
Thanks 👍
Great stuff any advice on getting broken waterpump bolts out of a car engine?
You might have to cut the heads off and heat the stud to get them out.
Hiya Martin, nice fix. Did you check the climate control for what i mentioned in our email?
I forgot Chazz lol
@@retrorestore lol
Good job
Thanks Jim
IAC valves are merely little valves that allow for air flow adjustments when idling. So you could possibly spray carb cleaner into it and clean it out and may work fine again. There really isn't much to them. The use them to adjust the RPMs when your air conditioning turns on and off and such things like that to keep the engine RPMs level.
It wasn't gummed up at all Gary
Martin, Nice easy fix but you have to narrow and know what to change top fix, Cheers Dave
It makes a change for it to be a simple fix Dave lol
Mines on the off throttle point. All temps. You accelerate then come off throttle and merrrrrrrrrrr . Sounds like vacuum thing.
Ill look at your checks later!
My mondeo ST220 has died 2 weeks ago engine gone , that noise I also had and it comes and goes , I was told it was to do with Aircon
Great fix Martin.Stay safe.
mr butler has killed the MOOOSE
Nice one well done easy fix
Thanks 👍
Great job Martin.
Hi buddy can you help please I have a ST220 and my current OBD Autel scanner isn't compatible, can you recommend or add a link to a good OBD scan tool I can purchase please.
many thanks in advance
Steve
I did a review on the Topdon one I use in my review playlist.
Hiya mate ive got the same problem on my st220 have bought new idle control valve but mine does it from cold start but ive noticed that the conector too the air box is broke so its not connecting properly do you think thats why its still doing it now en again
Could be.
top job..
Thank you! Cheers!
Great Vid Martin 👍
Thanks Jamie👍
Hi is Part readily available I would like to buy one in South Africa thanks for your input
There are some on Ebay
Good cars them good to see your son has one aswell
That a e36 bmw in the background at the start of the video?
Where's your shorts Martin ?
what a good solid car there martin and it looks nice and tidy in the engine bay, will you be doing the same on gary's motor as a precaution or is his alright?
He's is fine Aide. Its an easy fix anyway if it does start doing it.
I've just bought meself a lovely mondeo st tdci 2.2 love the car in performance blue but getting some juddering when braking been told tracking is well out 🤷♂️I see quite a few about in skeggy
Juddering wouldn't be the tracking Bill. If the tracking was out, you'd get uneven tyre wear and it would pull to the side when you let go of the steering wheel when driving in a straight line.
@@retrorestore probably a dodgy hub or warped disc 🤔 it's going in Friday as got snapped spring 🤦♂️
@@retrorestore any info as to why my abs kicks in below 30mph 🤔🤔
Are you better off getting a pre-2005 due to thier road tax
I think so.
The EGR is only a temporary fix for the moosing it will be back I suppose it's part of ST life now after 15 years and a large collection of EGR valves lol
its not the egr its the idle air control valve bud
Yes for some reason it's Egr but should be idle but you get what I'm saying sort fix then back to mooring I always check videos for up dates on this issue many years still no real fix
Nice one 👍
Thanks ✌️
Great you fixed it, just a thought, is Garys car also doing that ‘moosing’?.
No he's doesn't do it.
Nice one
Thanks 🔥
Harry is the spitting image of his Dad.
Yes he is Jack.
👍👍👍👍🤔🤔🤔 Fluffle valve or giggling pin 😀
Both!
Prefer the newer Derv myself Martin. Does Gary's one have same problem. Might get 2.2 Tdci one yet but av just bought Landy Freelander good old K series 1.8 16v lol.. Am I gullten for punishment lol.😂👍 Ach all good content mate. I hope you get it fixed. Funny cause John lad had about 10 of these motors never had no problems with them just the alternators and brake pads and a bit of fade probably down to old fluid. 👍🔧🛠
I had a lot of issues with the 1.8 Freelander Ali, I have loads of videos on the one I had.
@@retrorestore Av had a few myself lol. And l series and the Td4
Simple fix after all Martin and not so expensive, have Gary's Mondeo the same problem?
Gary's doesn't moose lol
The ST220 sounds very nice. Are still keeping the Acclaim once you've finished it or are you selling it?
Selling it Michael
Ez a EGR szelep?
The old Mon doo doo probs....
😊👍
Doubt there go up in price the road tax is 320 a year and there to thirsty and quite slow compared to newer cars with smaller engines
You miss the point Paul. You don't compare classics to today's cars.
retrorestore I had a mondeo Ghia x 36 thousand miles from new 1 owner garaged mint condition couldn’t give it away it cost 28 grand new no one wanted it just old fashioned drank the juice road tax was a killer 320 a year ok for weekends or long journeys my electric seats packed up and ford wanted a grand to fix terrible joke of a company
Nice and easy fix Martin. Maybe the moosing 🐮 was the real reason why the previous owner sold the car. 😊
Could be